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smoking oceanus
21-03-2008, 10:50 PM
Not long ago, i was invited to my older sisters birthday which she decided to have at a local park near her house and have a barbecue. Her neighborhood is very mid-upper class, very homogeneous and she invited all of her mid upper class soccer mum friends with their husbands and kids etc.

God, I never ever felt soooo out of place in my life, lol. You could only imagine what the conversations consisted of. These people were so alike, there was no individuality in them what so ever. Its like the government doesn't need to clone people, its happening naturally anyway, lol.

I felt like some alien or something and i must of showed it sitting by myself not saying anything. The funny thing is that, i am actually a nice person and i can be very chatty, joke around and stuff, but when your in the company of a group of people who live on the other end of the scale as you do in terms of lifestyle, your the most quietest person on the planet.

siscid
21-03-2008, 11:01 PM
Not long ago, i was invited to my older sisters birthday which she decided to have at a local park near her house and have a barbecue. Her neighborhood is very mid-upper class, very homogeneous and she invited all of her mid upper class soccer mum friends with their husbands and kids etc.

God, I never ever felt soooo out of place in my life, lol. You could only imagine what the conversations consisted of. These people were so alike, there was no individuality in them what so ever. Its like the government doesn't need to clone people, its happening naturally anyway, lol.

I felt like some alien or something and i must of showed it sitting by myself not saying anything. The funny thing is that, i am actually a nice person and i can be very chatty, joke around and stuff, but when your in the company of a group of people who live on the other end of the scale as you do in terms of lifestyle, your the most quietest person on the planet.

Hey smoking oceanus,

Thank you for your post! I think we all have, at one time or another, been through something similar to your story. The whole waking up process usually shows you how close the world currently is through events similar to your own. I recently started meeting some new people and one night we all went to the pub, man I felt so drained and sick being there, it was a complete waste of time and I just wanted to go home. These people I were with were really nice, but they were brain dead. But I know deep in my heart I'm not like that at all and you are not like how you described either.

These Kinds of events allow us to observe and evaluate our reality, to let us know something isn't quite right. I hope your doing better from that little to-do, as those kinds of experiences can linger around in your mind for a long time after.

Siscid.

gremlin
21-03-2008, 11:03 PM
ha ha ha ha i know how it is, but you have to learn to speak their language because it is all
http://re3.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/25/m2/2278870518 at the end of the day

siscid
21-03-2008, 11:07 PM
ha ha ha ha i know how it is, but you have to learn to speak their language because it is all
http://re3.yt-thm-a01.yimg.com/image/25/m2/2278870518 at the end of the day

Yep, it sure is..

bones
21-03-2008, 11:23 PM
i was at a wedding last week, my friend was pretty common.

i was sat at a table with my wife and the set out at sitting was pretty strange.
we ended up sitting 8 to a table and 2 of which were pretty ok joking and laughing.

4 ppl joined us and i could tell straight away they were different.

i asked who are you? replied im so so and for 2 hrs they didnt spk at all and turned there noses up at the food.

i actually said after 30 mins fuk this , what a stook up tosh you are and got my chair and sat at the tabkle that was laughing the most.
my wife followed and so did the 2 others after.

im so glad im normal working class cos if thats what it is to be rich and snooty , then they can have it . fuk em.

siscid
21-03-2008, 11:35 PM
i was at a wedding last week, my friend was pretty common.

i was sat at a table with my wife and the set out at sitting was pretty strange.
we ended up sitting 8 to a table and 2 of which were pretty ok joking and laughing.

4 ppl joined us and i could tell straight away they were different.

i asked who are you? replied im so so and for 2 hrs they didnt spk at all and turned there noses up at the food.

i actually said after 30 mins fuk this , what a stook up tosh you are and got my chair and sat at the tabkle that was laughing the most.
my wife followed and so did the 2 others after.

im so glad im normal working class cos if thats what it is to be rich and snooty , then they can have it . fuk em.

Ah yes,

That's one of the major issues with other people on the other side of the spectrum.. Well said though! I think they might of needed a bit of a wake up call themselves, hehe.

Siscid

grenadene
21-03-2008, 11:36 PM
i've reached the stage where i get a bit pissed at these occasions and start making outrageous rants.... always makes me cringe in a smiling kind of way in morning ;)

truthcommission
22-03-2008, 12:40 AM
...but when your in the company of a group of people who live on the other end of the scale as you do in terms of lifestyle, your the most quietest person on the planet.
I feel like that with most groups of people irrespective of which social strata they slavishly belong to. In fact I find working class people the most closed minded of them all. I don't even bother trying to have any kind of half way decent conversation with most of them (massive generalization I know!) because their boorishness and tackiness just grates on me. Call me a snob but I would rather be an enlightened snob that some brain dead prole who lives off a steady diet of junk food and lowest common denominator TV and movies.

zero1
22-03-2008, 12:45 AM
I feel like that with most groups of people irrespective of which social strata they slavishly belong to.

Hmm, know what you mean.

In fact I find working class people the most closed minded of them all. I don't even bother trying to have any kind of half way decent conversation with most of them (massive generalization I know!) because their boorishness and tackiness just grates on me.

Yes, it can be difficult conversing with people who accept what they see with no expectation of waking up.

Call me a snob but I would rather be an enlightened snob that some brain dead prole who lives off a steady diet of junk food and lowest common denominator TV and movies

There are enlightened snobs? :rolleyes: I know what you mean about bad habits though.

eternal_spirit
22-03-2008, 12:48 AM
Not long ago, i was invited to my older sisters birthday which she decided to have at a local park near her house and have a barbecue. Her neighborhood is very mid-upper class, very homogeneous and she invited all of her mid upper class soccer mum friends with their husbands and kids etc.

God, I never ever felt soooo out of place in my life, lol. You could only imagine what the conversations consisted of. These people were so alike, there was no individuality in them what so ever. Its like the government doesn't need to clone people, its happening naturally anyway, lol.

I felt like some alien or something and i must of showed it sitting by myself not saying anything. The funny thing is that, i am actually a nice person and i can be very chatty, joke around and stuff, but when your in the company of a group of people who live on the other end of the scale as you do in terms of lifestyle, your the most quietest person on the planet.

.....................

Wow, what a coincidence I've had experiences like this most of my life too many to type. But know what you have been through. You have to kind of grin and bare it, especially if it's family and friends kind of thing.
Some peope will never change and will always just be drones, clones and you cannot change them, what ever you do or say will be a waste of time.

It is like another sub species within species and so on the human being.

truthseekeruk
22-03-2008, 01:03 AM
forgive my ignorance but I am struggling a bit with all this "class" distinction/division isnt that a by-product brain child of the so called "elite"?

Has anyone ever watched "keeping up Apperances?"

And to think my dark eyed thread was termed a waste of forum space? I feel loads better now thanks :D

incidentally i dont have any problems mixing with anyone we are all human we eat poop and sleep, the people who are inferior are the ones who think they are superior its a reverse psychology thing.;)

Buying into the class system/distinction means you are as much caught in societies mind snare box than anyone else?

If I am missing something here pls feel free to enlighten me. I am always willing to further my learning curves ... :D

zero1
22-03-2008, 01:30 AM
Forgive my ignorance but I am struggling a bit with all this "class" distinction/division isnt that a by-product brain child of the so called "elite"?

Essentially, yes. But that class struggle is not what I think is meant by the division between those who think critically and seek enlightened knowlege, and those who accept what they see with no expectation of waking up because they don't know they're asleep, or dead...

Buying into the class system/distinction means you are as much caught in societies mind snare box than anyone else?

If that's what you did, it would mean that I suppose. But what it is really is this --

When you grasp enough of the truth and begin to live it, there is a gulf divide between you and the rest of the wilfully ignorant masses that only gets bigger. You begin to find the repetitive, often inane talk and actions of the ordinary "Joe Soap" too boring, crass and empty to be worth engaging. That's just how it goes: Redpills and Bluepills can co-exist, but they dont' mix well at all.

truthseekeruk
22-03-2008, 02:23 AM
Essentially, yes. But that class struggle is not what I think is meant by the division between those who think critically and seek enlightened knowlege, and those who accept what they see with no expectation of waking up because they don't know they're asleep, or dead...

I read the words working class? wonder how I could have mistaken that?

How do you find all that out unless you talk to them?


When you grasp enough of the truth and begin to live it, there is a gulf divide between you and the rest of the wilfully ignorant masses that only gets bigger. You begin to find the repetitive, often inane talk and actions of the ordinary "Joe Soap" too boring, crass and empty to be worth engaging. That's just how it goes: Redpills and Bluepills can co-exist, but they dont' mix well at all.

I dont look at people who dont know or shared my experiences as being wilfully ignorant. Unless you engage people how can you interest them?

not sure about the red/blue pills but sounds like a great party to me :D

I find it really sad that many enlightened folks tend to use that knowledge to feel superior to those you term as "Joe Soap" we all had to start somewhere didnt we? In my experience people dont listen if you talk down to them. They switch off.

danucrom
22-03-2008, 03:51 AM
I find it really sad that many enlightened folks tend to use that knowledge to feel superior to those you term as "Joe Soap" we all had to start somewhere didnt we? In my experience people dont listen if you talk down to them. They switch off.

Many of them are beyond reach, and it wouldn't matter how you try to get across to them they just don't want to know. The ironic thing is when you try to tell them they will class you as insane and then go straight back to watching their "reality" tv shows and sports as if that was somehow normal.

People will either wake up or stay asleep, you can't force them.

monkfish
22-03-2008, 07:32 AM
Has anyone seen the film 'Society'? If you havent,i highly reccomend it.
You'l need a strong stomach though.

icke_is_right
22-03-2008, 08:13 AM
I have to agree that 'class' is a symptom and an elite run society. I think books could be written on this....so I'll leave it alone.

The reason these people are so distant is because they've fallen for the lie hook, line and sinker. It's a bit much to come to terms with if you've worked with the lie all your life, believed in it and convinced yourself this is the way to do things.

If I win the lottery tomorrow, I still see myself as living in the Stone Age as thousands of modern inventions have been hidden from us. Think of poor Boriska (the boy with supposed memories of previous incarnations as an intergalactic pilot), he's stuck in a dive in Russia,,,,what a bummer when you know how different things could be!!!

G

truthseekeruk
22-03-2008, 08:22 AM
Many of them are beyond reach, and it wouldn't matter how you try to get across to them they just don't want to know. The ironic thing is when you try to tell them they will class you as insane and then go straight back to watching their "reality" tv shows and sports as if that was somehow normal.

People will either wake up or stay asleep, you can't force them.

but if you write them off without trying how will you know? If the attitude is why bother because they wont listen then why does david icke do what he does? You have made the choice for them? Decided what they are to believe in? Isnt that what the NWO do?

I am interested in your answer on this because I think this fundamental attitude is what is holding people back from spreading the word.

truthseekeruk
22-03-2008, 08:26 AM
I have to agree that 'class' is a symptom and an elite run society. I think books could be written on this....so I'll leave it alone.

The reason these people are so distant is because they've fallen for the lie hook, line and sinker. It's a bit much to come to terms with if you've worked with the lie all your life, believed in it and convinced yourself this is the way to do things.

If I win the lottery tomorrow, I still see myself as living in the Stone Age as thousands of modern inventions have been hidden from us. Think of poor Boriska (the boy with supposed memories of previous incarnations as an intergalactic pilot), he's stuck in a dive in Russia,,,,what a bummer when you know how different things could be!!!

G

Wise choice on the class thing, but you are deciding what people are to believe? cant you see that? Is it me or is there a general apathy towards this? No matter what attrocities I hear are being committed by NWO. Seeing the majority of people written off like this and their minds being made up by others who are supposed to be "entlightened" really shocks me. How can you justify this? Are you afraid of people ridiculing you?

Please I am not attacking you I want to know why so many of you who post to forums like this think like this? Are you scared?

icke_is_right
22-03-2008, 08:45 AM
Wise choice on the class thing, but you are deciding what people are to believe? cant you see that? Is it me or is there a general apathy towards this? No matter what attrocities I hear are being committed by NWO. Seeing the majority of people written off like this and their minds being made up by others who are supposed to be "entlightened" really shocks me. How can you justify this? Are you afraid of people ridiculing you?

Please I am not attacking you I want to know why so many of you who post to forums like this think like this? Are you scared?

Truthseeker, I think I understand where you are coming from. I'll answer your last question first.....Yes sometimes but less so now as I've come to terms with the awfulness of it all.

I've had a lot of knock backs from people that I've put views forward to. I haven't given up, I've just got to keep plugging away. My firm belief is that people will 'have to' wake up eventually. I'm not writing anyone off and I don't always see my own view as being correct. I've learned more on this site by putting my own views aside and learning from other members. This is a hard lesson.

I'm not afraid of ridicule, I've lived with it all my life as I've always been different. So stay with us as we've all got a role to play and one more people like you on board asking questions is a good thing. There are lot's of very good people on this site we all need to stick together (on this site or another). I'm still trying to find a way forward.

truthseekeruk
22-03-2008, 09:06 AM
Truthseeker, I think I understand where you are coming from. I'll answer your last question first.....Yes sometimes but less so now as I've come to terms with the awfulness of it all.

I've had a lot of knock backs from people that I've put views forward to. I haven't given up, I've just got to keep plugging away. My firm belief is that people will 'have to' wake up eventually. I'm not writing anyone off and I don't always see my own view as being correct. I've learned more on this site by putting my own views aside and learning from other members. This is a hard lesson.

I'm not afraid of ridicule, I've lived with it all my life as I've always been different. So stay with us as we've all got a role to play and one more people like you on board asking questions is a good thing. There are lot's of very good people on this site we all need to stick together (on this site or another). I'm still trying to find a way forward.

thank you for attempting to answer my question(s) but no offence but I still only see reasons why not to try (ie hard lesson). What are you going to do with that learnng? keep it to yourself or use it to empower yourself?

I dont doubt there are lots of very good people on the site but the problem is they are on this site sharing their knowledge with each other not spreading that knowledge elsewhere? thats a bit of an elitist exclusive idea to me.

I appreciate its not easy and if you are as you say "different" then you know how society looks at the outside of a person makes a judgement therefore dismisses them as idiots if they look different. Look at Stephen Hawkins how many people dismiss what he tells them?

You have to keep trying I find it really sad that all i seem to hear are excuses as to why not and not more people trying harder.

I dont meant to upset anyone but I speak from the heart - I like to call a spade a spade. I'm not particularly outspoken, I just think it's confusing to use any other term for it.

:D

smoking oceanus
22-03-2008, 12:01 PM
Thanks for everyones replies :)

razed1
22-03-2008, 01:49 PM
Not long ago, i was invited to my older sisters birthday which she decided to have at a local park near her house and have a barbecue. Her neighborhood is very mid-upper class, very homogeneous and she invited all of her mid upper class soccer mum friends with their husbands and kids etc.

God, I never ever felt soooo out of place in my life, lol. You could only imagine what the conversations consisted of. These people were so alike, there was no individuality in them what so ever. Its like the government doesn't need to clone people, its happening naturally anyway, lol.

I felt like some alien or something and i must of showed it sitting by myself not saying anything. The funny thing is that, i am actually a nice person and i can be very chatty, joke around and stuff, but when your in the company of a group of people who live on the other end of the scale as you do in terms of lifestyle, your the most quietest person on the planet.

yes good post, the price for enlightenment in this dark age is loneliness...

danucrom
22-03-2008, 04:11 PM
but if you write them off without trying how will you know? If the attitude is why bother because they wont listen then why does david icke do what he does? You have made the choice for them? Decided what they are to believe in? Isnt that what the NWO do?

I am interested in your answer on this because I think this fundamental attitude is what is holding people back from spreading the word.

The information is out there but most choose not to listen anyway. They have made a choice and would rather stay in their comfort zone. From my own experience it is better to concentrate on those who have taken the first steps for themselves. You can't drag people away from their TV sets and padded reality, they will hate you for it and make you suffer. Softly slowly catch a monkey, drop hints here and there, bring up things in conversation and if they respond by asking questions instead of calling you a fruit loop then you have some hope of getting through.

zero1
22-03-2008, 04:37 PM
The information is out there but most choose not to listen anyway. They have made a choice and would rather stay in their comfort zone. From my own experience it is better to concentrate on those who have taken the first steps for themselves. You can't drag people away from their TV sets and padded reality, they will hate you for it and make you suffer. Softly slowly catch a monkey, drop hints here and there, bring up things in conversation and if they respond by asking questions instead of calling you a fruit loop then you have some hope of getting through.

Correct.