niftygifter
17-03-2008, 07:04 PM
Interesting site with interesting reasons for NOT drinking too much milk.
http://www.notmilk.com/
Nifty:cool:
pleasuredome
17-03-2008, 07:32 PM
yep, good site. stopped drinking milk last year.
niftygifter
17-03-2008, 07:58 PM
yep, good site. stopped drinking milk last year.
You know, is there anything left to eat or drink that is bloody safe....LOL
Nifty:D:D
pleasuredome
17-03-2008, 08:40 PM
You know, is there anything left to eat or drink that is bloody safe....LOL
Nifty:D:D
well this is it, you become a lot more restricted. but what i found is that i dont have to eat as much as what i thought i should eat anyway. but it just takes away a lot of the enjoyment out of eating.
binhdinh_khiwarrior
17-03-2008, 10:11 PM
I allergic to it...:-( although i love cheese which is shame lol but it is really meant for baby cows not humans....
fransetter
17-03-2008, 11:38 PM
Nothing wrong with unpasteurized milk.
Pasteurization is the problem. It turns milk toxic.
See Mercola.com loads of info on raw milk there. I also use raw milk to make Kefir, cheese and butter.
madthumbs
18-03-2008, 03:56 AM
Nothing wrong with unpasteurized milk.
Pasteurization is the problem. It turns milk toxic.
See Mercola.com loads of info on raw milk there. I also use raw milk to make Kefir, cheese and butter.
How so? Isn't there more evidence that homogenization is the problem? Are you saying that lactose doesn't aid in destruction of the pancreas which produces insulin?
Recipe for Nut Milk (http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4226)
fransetter
18-03-2008, 11:05 AM
How so? Isn't there more evidence that homogenization is the problem? Are you saying that lactose doesn't aid in destruction of the pancreas which produces insulin?
Recipe for Nut Milk (http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=4226)
There are a lot of myths surrounding raw milk, and whether or not we should eat saturated fats.
http://www.realmilk.com/
http://v.mercola.com/blogs/post.aspx?App=public_blog&PostID=19079&Subscribed=1
This is me: I started drinking raw milk about 3 months ago, and there is no way I would touch the other stuff again. My energy levels increased after about a week of drinking it. I started to feel really good, but felt I could do better. With that in mind, about 4 weeks ago I started making my own home made raw milk Kefir because I am determined to reverse a health condition I have. I am doing this alongside eating raw foods. The raw milk kerfir very recently caused me to undergo a major crash, bringing up symptoms which kicked off my illness years ago. The detox is almost at the magnitude of the illness itself. There is no way I am going into hospital to be put on a saline and glucose drip which will just feed the condition! I prefer to keep myself out of hospital by using rock salt and saturated fats - not glucose. The detox is what is known as the Herxheimer reaction, so I know it is doing something which will eventually help strengthen my immune system.
Since I started drinking raw milk, my vitimin B12 levels have risen to acceptable levels. Previously they were so low (right off the scale) that I was having B12 injections. My sugar levels have also stabilized, not gone through the roof like some would expect. I am also adding Maca powder into my diet, which will be helping and another thing which has recently happened is that my thyroid appears to be functioning well. No articifial crap needed to sustain me there anymore. The next set of glands I have to get working properly are my adrenal glands. If I can get these working properly again, then I can get off the immune crushing steroids!
Considering the improvements I am experiencing to my endocrine disease as a result of raw food and raw milk, how can anyone tell me that what I am doing is not right for me? Does anyone else have any other suggestions as to how I can reverse a serious auto-immune disease? because I have been trying for years, and this is the only thing which has been getting anything like results.
I have copied and pasted one of Mercola's raw milk articles here for those of you who don't want to subscribe. What he says at the end is SOOOOOO true. We have to go with what our OWN bodies are telling us, and my body is saying that raw milk is doing something very positive. If it doesn't work for you then don't use it. I can't tolerate grains unless they are sprouted, that doesn't give me the right to tell everyone else that all grains are terrible and should never be used.
Grains which are highly processed are not good for anyone. Milk which has been highly processed is not good for anyone. We have to look at the whole picture with our own individual bodies, and conclude what - in it's raw form - is good for us and what is not. Mercola looks at whether or not people are "carb" or "non carb" types. That is just the tip of the iceberg.
Mercola: There's a lot of confusion around this subject because many confuse organic milk with raw milk. Of course, raw milk is going to be superior almost every time. The problems begin with pasteurization of milk. Milk contains a very fragile protein, and proteins are composed of little amino acids and little strings. That is their one-dimensional shape. But they also have a two dimensional shape when they bend backwards and forwards. In addition, they have a three-dimensional shape. They have a tertiary structure in space which puts them in a unique, three-dimensional configuration; it's a very specific shape in space.
When you heat milk, even with a small amount of heat, as low as 110° F., you can distort the configuration, or shape, of the protein, turning it from something good into something bad that will actually cause allergies and other autoimmune dysfunction. This is one reason why cooking, or even worse, pasteurizing food, can be a problem, as even though it will eliminate bacteria, it also causes potential complications and dangers in the food.
We've seen enormous benefits for many in our practice who have begun using raw milk. Of course, the challenge in using raw milk is that it's somewhat difficult to get, as it's illegal in virtually every state in the U.S. except California, where you can purchase it in stores such as Whole Foods. For help in finding raw milk, go to www.realmilk.com or find a local dairy farmer who will sell it to you. There are ways to go about it whereby a consumer buys a portion of the cow, with the Cow Share Program. That seems to be an effective way to circumvent difficulties and legally obtain the raw milk.
One interesting principle I'd like to share is this. I've been a very strong advocate of raw milk, and I've been quoted in the L.A. Times, Time Magazine and Wall Street Journal for me position on this. I find it very ironic that even though I'm a strong proponent of raw milk, and fully believe in its benefits, I personally cannot use raw milk. I love the taste of it, but it doesn't like me. It's not just raw milk; it's all milk. You see, I have, for some unknown reason, developed some type of sensitivity to milk, where if I take it, my kidneys start to fail and I go into renal insufficiency. It's a very serious issue for me, so I have to avoid all dairy in any shape or form. That's the challenge I have in my health journey. But it doesn't necessarily mean that you shouldn't use it.
The reason I bring up this example is that it's a very powerful illustration of the fact that you have to personalize the information you receive. You see, we give you general information on the website. But the whole purpose of the site is to educate you so that you understand that you need to listen to your body. Your body is going to give you the information, the feedback, the resources to understand whether or not any given information is in fact good for you.
It's important to realize that whether it's coming from me, another natural health practitioner or another physician, that you really need to integrate the info, keeping in mind at all times what your body is telling you. Your body will almost invariably, regularly, universally, tell you the truth so that you can have that feedback to adjust, monitor and fine tune your health.
If I were to blindly believe that raw milk was good for me personally and continue to drink it, I would probably be on renal dialysis, which is not a pretty picture. So you have to customize the information you receive, again, not only from me, but from anyone, and that's a very important principle to grasp if you hope to ever take control of your health.
milone
18-03-2008, 12:40 PM
Only Milk we need is from our mothers for the first year of our lives period. We do NOT need milk form any other animal whatsoever. Mind u I do like ice cream and cheese once in a while the drinking of another animals milk is just wrong.