No2microchipping - epetition reply

[catfood]

So the petition was pointless, I thought it would be.
Still it was worth a shot

http://www.pm.gov.uk/output/Page15004.asp

[quest]

I was highly amused to get the email from them this morning and hear that "The Government is not aware of any organisation or individual that is planning to micro chip humans, and so although in principle the Government would be against this practice, it seems disproportionate to legislate to ban it".

So, there's no need to ban something the government denies the existance of and we can all feel safe again, given that it's illegal already!

"However, you may be reassured that any attempt to micro-chip someone against their will would certainly be covered by the law on assault, and as such is already illegal".

[gold]

I received a reply 'Pathetic'

[niftygifter]

I was highly amused to get the email from them this morning and hear that "The Government is not aware of any organisation or individual that is planning to micro chip humans, and so although in principle the Government would be against this practice, it seems disproportionate to legislate to ban it".

So, there's no need to ban something the government denies the existance of and we can all feel safe again, given that it's illegal already!

"However, you may be reassured that any attempt to micro-chip someone against their will would certainly be covered by the law on assault, and as such is already illegal".

Thing is they are probably telling some truths, thats how they work it.
We will all be part of Europe then and of course the directive will probably come from there.:cool:

Nifty:cool:

[magicmerlin]

Yeah right - just like there they're 'unaware' of companies putting cancer causing artificial sweeteners in our food etc etc.

Why not make it illegal just in case! And anyway, they won't force it on people but it will become a case of.....

- firstly protect your children blah blah blah

- then, you need a chip to buy food

- chip to leave the country


you don't have to have one, but you won't be able to do anything without one.

[gold]

If we can't buy or leave the country, where does this leave the ones who will not be chipped? We need to make provisions NOW AND QUICK!

[waterbwoy]

I was highly amused to get the email from them this morning and hear that "The Government is not aware of any organisation or individual that is planning to micro chip humans, and so although in principle the Government would be against this practice, it seems disproportionate to legislate to ban it".

So, there's no need to ban something the government denies the existance of and we can all feel safe again, given that it's illegal already!

"However, you may be reassured that any attempt to micro-chip someone against their will would certainly be covered by the law on assault, and as such is already illegal".

Thanks for this,

So in layman's terms I take this to be

"Ban it - We can't discuss that - We haven't done it yet, and we don't even know what it is.":confused:

and "Anyway, you'll not be forced to accept it, You'll just not be given much choice";)

But then what did we expect to happen -

:("OK. Your right. We were gonna actually go through with a plan to hijack creation but it's a fair.

:eek:Guys, it's over - the internet detectives have given our game up and sent us a really worrying petition.

:)They have totally got a grip of the whole fear thing so we better just help them out and give it a rest"

signed TPTB:cool:

Seriously Guys, I'd say start getting ready to see this thing through I sense I difficult budget coming

[killmicrosoft]

Talk about double talk


Thank you for signing the e-petition regarding the banning of micro chipping of humans.

The Government is not aware of any organisation or individual that is planning to micro chip humans, and so although in principle the Government would be against this practice, it seems disproportionate to legislate to ban it.

However, you may be reassured that any attempt to micro-chip someone against their will would certainly be covered by the law on assault, and as such is already illegal.

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[godspeed]

i got a repy too same as above....double speak is here.......pathetic to deny knowing of any company's wanting to chip people....i thought they were good friends with them...this is our government all over with more lies to cover up something....more sinister.

[hagbard_celine]

I got that reply to.

Smell it? I'm knee-deep in it!:mad:

[catfood]

Is there any way we can keep this petition and hand it back in when the is clear evidence that they do know about plans to chip people?

[deanjames]

Is there any way we can keep this petition and hand it back in when the is clear evidence that they do know about plans to chip people?

i got the same reply

at the end of the day they can change the law as it suites them so it will happen.