Wernher von Braun predicted false alien invasion

[graflok]

"Just before he [von Braun] died, he gave an interview to Carol Rosin, in which he basically said that in order to sustain the military-industrial complex that first a false threat of terrorists would be created and used on the public and then asteroids and finally a false alien threat."

See article and video here:
http://evpreversespeaking2.blogspot.com/2007/03/what-future-holds.html

This could be the reason for the recent UFO reports in mainstream media, e.g., in Phoenix and at O'Hare Airport, etc. That is, to help set up the public mindset. Also, France's recent release of UFO information.

Also, since 9/11 is blowing up in the faces of the NWO boys, they may feel a need to go to the next step (the fake invasion) sooner than originally planned.

This year, maybe?

graflok

[teslafire]

I remember Tsarion and possibly John Hogue stating that 2008 was the year of the unveiling.

Its also worthy to note that several people say the elite are playing out the 7 year armageddon script from 2005 to 2012. 2008 would be the 3.5 year midpoint where antichrist is made apparent. The whole Jesus as extraterrestial thing hasn't been getting much play in the major conditioning outlets so I'm not quite sure.

I also think that the hoax isn't necessarily faking an alien presence but more like faking that they are alien. There is tons of UFO art throughout history, even cave paintings, check it out:

http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientastronauts.html

I go back and forth on this one all the time...sometimes time travel enters the realm of possibility. Dunno.

[earthseed]

I see this as the changing of the guards or the changing of the masters. People are tired of the elites and they know it. So they have to play the alien card to keep control over the flock. ETs have always been here. And the elites have always been working with them. So they have technology enough to play evil ET all day which is probably what a lot of ufos and abductions are. Not that all ufos and abductions are them but I can see that they do, do it as well to confuse people.

[eternal_spirit]

I think it's Brotherhood technology behind UFO's. Some are physical crafts other are holograms. Jesus coming down to Earth on a cloud as predicted in the Bible as the second coming of Christ the Saviour returning would be no problem for them with their special effects or the good ET@s kicking reps ass...either that or....

They could make it appear like in the movies, a bunch of actors mixed with special effects pretending to be the avenging God killing the Worlds Governments, when in reality the world leaders and illuminati would go under cover to manipulate and control the peoples from behind the scenes in secret underground locations, controlling people with their technologically advanced mind controlled machines.

There would be rumours by the masses that the evil rulers weren't really killed by the good et's and gods angels who would now be in power and they would be called the new conspircay theorists lol

[amadeus]

Anyone heard from S.Greer lately? That press conference was like in 2001, so whats happened to his disclosure project? I believe he stated a while ago that the SETI-project is getting messages from aliens all the time, but they are suppressing the information. And then this guy from SETI was on Coast to Coast explaining that mr Greer is a fruit cake.

I don't have a clear opinion about Greer since i haven't really looked in to his work, but i think he radiates some honesty when he's speaking. But i must say that his bulbing eyes and "steroid-bodybuilder look" is kind of weird though...

So is mr Greer a fraud in your opinion?

[eternal_spirit]

QUOTE: amadeus:SETI-project is getting messages from aliens all the time, but they are suppressing the information.

SETI.. Is this a big attena like a hearing device up there in space that picks up sounds???

If the Aliens are real they'd come down to earth and make a public apperance and talk to us.

Unless we are like the sheep in the field to them and we are their food, it wouldn't be wise for them to let us know what there up to.

The human reptile aliens would be the sheep farmers.

[andreadoria]

"This could be the reason for the recent UFO reports in mainstream media, e.g., in Phoenix and at O'Hare Airport, etc. That is, to help set up the public mindset. Also, France's recent release of UFO information.

Also, since 9/11 is blowing up in the faces of the NWO boys, they may feel a need to go to the next step (the fake invasion) sooner than originally planned.

This year, maybe?

graflok

oh yeah... and don't forget that also NSA have realeased their ufo files

http://www.nsa.gov/ufo/

[hagbard_celine]

"Just before he [von Braun] died, he gave an interview to Carol Rosin, in which he basically said that in order to sustain the military-industrial complex that first a false threat of terrorists would be created and used on the public and then asteroids and finally a false alien threat."

See article and video here:
http://evpreversespeaking2.blogspot.com/2007/03/what-future-holds.html

This could be the reason for the recent UFO reports in mainstream media, e.g., in Phoenix and at O'Hare Airport, etc. That is, to help set up the public mindset. Also, France's recent release of UFO information.

Also, since 9/11 is blowing up in the faces of the NWO boys, they may feel a need to go to the next step (the fake invasion) sooner than originally planned.

This year, maybe?

graflok

Seeing as von Braun predicted the Cold War and the War on Terror I think we should take this very seriously. Put it together with Project Bluebeam and the current minor releases of UFO files, as andreadoris points out. If it's going to happen then it must happen soon.

[eternal_spirit]

Seeing as von Braun predicted the Cold War and the War on Terror I think we should take this very seriously. Put it together with Project Bluebeam and the current minor releases of UFO files, as andreadoris points out. If it's going to happen then it must happen soon.


Predictive programming....the PTB wan't it to happens so they'll make sure it does. Only time will tell.

So many things have been made to happen the NWO agenda ect etc. Some fall for the line that for example George Orwell and other sci fi writers predicted the future with what was written in thier books. The only logical explanation is they knew what the future would hold because those in power allready had the script and the actors in place.

[chattanova]

I also think that the hoax isn't necessarily faking an alien presence but more like faking that they are alien. There is tons of UFO art throughout history, even cave paintings, check it out:

http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientastronauts.html

I go back and forth on this one all the time...sometimes time travel enters the realm of possibility. Dunno.

Great link, thanks for sharing!

[legaata]

[QUOTE=teslafire;20955]Its also worthy to note that several people say the elite are playing out the 7 year armageddon script from 2005 to 2012. QUOTE]

According to the book "Conversations with Nostradamus", by Cannon Delores, Nostradamus predicts that the years 2006 to 2012 will be a dark period of evilness. The WW2 will begin shortly after 2012.

[grackle]

I see this as the changing of the guards or the changing of the masters. People are tired of the elites and they know it. So they have to play the alien card to keep control over the flock. ETs have always been here. And the elites have always been working with them. So they have technology enough to play evil ET all day which is probably what a lot of ufos and abductions are. Not that all ufos and abductions are them but I can see that they do, do it as well to confuse people.
I can't see this. This doesn't seem practical. As where would the technology for this come from. Plus, such an attempt, would send people into a hysterical frenzy and panics.

[mr_pixie]

[QUOTE=teslafire;20955]Its also worthy to note that several people say the elite are playing out the 7 year armageddon script from 2005 to 2012. QUOTE]

According to the book "Conversations with Nostradamus", by Cannon Delores, Nostradamus predicts that the years 2006 to 2012 will be a dark period of evilness. The WW2 will begin shortly after 2012.

If another world war starts after 2012 then people like us would have falled in our atempet to expose The New World Order.:(

I'm not in it for this, I'm not going through tough times now so they can watch us destory ourselves.

[chandrakavi]

[QUOTE=legaata;56117]

If another world war starts after 2012 then people like us would have falled in our atempet to expose The New World Order.:(

I'm not in it for this, I'm not going through tough times now so they can watch us destory ourselves.

Don't believe with closed eyes that something will be so because "Nostradamus said it", or anybody said it. Prophets of doom have been USED for propaganda to create negative thought patterns on the enemy. During World War II, the Nazis threw a lot of sentences said by Nostradamus, and at the same time the English threw a lot of leaflets quoting Nostradamus to their favor ,also placed some of his quotes on the news reels, in order to have people think THEIR WAY.

Messages can always be manipulated, no matter who said it.

The intelligence services of the world know this very well.

So live your own creative life, create your own positive reality,

By the way World War III, has already started, the only difference with the other 2 wars, is that they can NOT do it in the same way, because
in WWI AND WWII, there was NO ATOM BOMB, this time it would be different because if it is used there would be no winner left, only dead grave-diggers,
and the NWO knows this. So we have Afganistan, Iraq, planning on Iran,
different places in the middle East ,and at the same time profitting with it.
They can only do it in divided ways, not everything at the same time.....
the world has never known peace.....
These guys have already been unmasked,
a lot of concience has been created. Very few people believe in polticians anymore.......
There is a better way out, which is not the world, it is through meditation,
your inner self, that the NWO knows nothing about, we will not destroy ourselves, governments are the ones in the war bu$ine$$, it's the only thing they know, but there are too many people awake about this, so they will have to change their tactics.
After all THE ENTIRE WORLD WANTS PEACE, only the few in governments want to profit from war$$$$$. They are THE OLD, a new generation, A NEW MAN, will come to this earth.

Don't believe in the manipulation of ANY prophet of Doom,
don't believe in any misinterpretation, out of context,
DON'T BELIEVE IN BELIEFS
Don't fall in love with words ,use them well only.:):)
Remember Life is infinite and endless.

Remember Osho's three L's: LIFE LOVE AND LAUGHTER:p;):D:o:rolleyes:
David ICke's Motto: OPEN YOUR EYES AND GET OFF YOUR KNEES

[starchildtesla]

Ive Read Dr steven Greers book , He seems very enlightened , in his book he explained reincarnation of god concouisness in a way which was easy to understand and accurate..

Like when watching David Icke for the First time i thought this guy is talking about Lizards wat a nut, but then i listened to him and Realised how Spiritually enlightened this guy is and that someone like that coulndt lie so i started taking him seriosly.

I think UFO;s are real and have always visited us Verner Von Braum merely brought UFO techniologys from Nazi Germany during Operation Paperclip.
How the nazis got the Techniology i dont know maybe the Dropa's in 1938 was also the same year as the nazi expedition to Tibet? or through recover of a crashed disc etc.

I think the like Dr Greer says the military industrial complex..Not sure if hes heard of the NWO yet..Has the UfO technologies and are using it as their Final Card to get people to Be MICROCHIPPED.
My theory is theyl come out with some propaganda like the aliens can morph into human the only way to stop the infiltration is microchip perhaps...

Abductions-- mainly in America , probally the use of NWO elites using UFO technology to Rape women and other satanic rituals.

[earthseed]

I noticed on the tv (mind control box) lately a lot more alien movies being shown. All you have to do is have a ton of your own ufos show up in the skies and people will do anything to get rid of them.

[hagbard_celine]

I noticed on the tv (mind control box) lately a lot more alien movies being shown. All you have to do is have a ton of your own ufos show up in the skies and people will do anything to get rid of them.

Very true. This could be exactly what they're planning.

There have been alien movies around since the 1920's, but recently these movies have adopted a specific theme: evil aliens come in huge numbers to invade and either occupy or destroy the Earth. Examples are "Independance Day", "X-Files", "Signs" and "War of the Worlds". There are official papers like the Brookings report that explain how the authorities are using the media to promote certain mindets in the populus; they're encouragiung us to love, hate or fear particular things.

[cruise4]

"there was NO ATOM BOMB, this time it would be different because if it is used there would be no winner left, only dead grave-diggers, and the NWO knows this"

Dead wrong... they will unleash A bombs like there's no tomorrow. They will be 3 miles underground in Obsidian coated caverns and tunnels, filled with all the trappings of modern life and new technology. These people are insane!

[woolfie]

If you want proof of aliens then look at the link pic...the ledge where the well reported open book is (on stool unburnt) look at the floor level and go to the left....first you can see the lime aliens headless body, further along is its head :p

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2002/Marines/DM-SD-02-03925.JPEG

[hagbard_celine]

"there was NO ATOM BOMB, this time it would be different because if it is used there would be no winner left, only dead grave-diggers, and the NWO knows this"

Dead wrong... they will unleash A bombs like there's no tomorrow. They will be 3 miles underground in Obsidian coated caverns and tunnels, filled with all the trappings of modern life and new technology. These people are insane!

They may destroy several cities with nukes while at the same time fill the sky with holographic projections of alien battleships.

Ian Crane was talking about this at the Probe conference last week. He says the Olympic opening ceremony in 2012 would be ideal time to do it. I imagine he's something of a pariah in the 911 Truth movement! After I came back I gave him a glowing review on my 9/11 Truth email list and nobody replied!

[hagbard_celine]

If you want proof of aliens then look at the link pic...the ledge where the well reported open book is (on stool unburnt) look at the floor level and go to the left....first you can see the lime aliens headless body, further along is its head :p

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2002/Marines/DM-SD-02-03925.JPEG

The pic hasn't come though.

[friendsinthesky]

If you want proof of aliens then look at the link pic...the ledge where the well reported open book is (on stool unburnt) look at the floor level and go to the left....first you can see the lime aliens headless body, further along is its head :p

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2002/Marines/DM-SD-02-03925.JPEG

What is this building? The 'bible' on unburnt stool is unusual because of it's placement. Who ever read the book would have been on the outside of the building. Also, the room it's in is very small and not practical, strange building.

As for the lime alien, well, it could be a sheep toy doll, or anything. Why do you say it's alien?

[woolfie]

The picture is the Pentagon after the 9 11 attack ;) Its very odd looking dont you think....also seems a funny place for someone to take a teddy/doll :rolleyes:

>Hagbard....is the pic ok now? I know that you will know you have to move the pic around to find the part im on about :)

[hagbard_celine]

The picture is the Pentagon after the 9 11 attack ;) Its very odd looking dont you think....also seems a funny place for someone to take a teddy/doll :rolleyes:

>Hagbard....is the pic ok now? I know that you will know you have to move the pic around to find the part im on about :)

Nah, I'm afraid it's still not there. Thanks for trying anyway. Can you post a link to the source page?

[woolfie]

http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2002/Marines/DM-SD-02-03925.JPEG

Hope this link works Hagbard ;)

[woolfie]

Maybe this one?


http://www.dodmedia.osd.mil/Assets/Still/2002/Marines/DM-SD-02-03925.JPEG

[hagbard_celine]

Sorry, the link is dead. Maybe it's just me. I find several other things don't work properly.

[woolfie]

Have you tried copy n paste into your browser ;) I need input :)

[hagbard_celine]

Have you tried copy n paste into your browser ;) I need input :)


It's OK, it's working now.

I think I'm looking in the right place. It's a strange shape, but it could just be foam from the insulation.

[thorleyart]

I read a book called 'The stargate conspiracy' about three years ago, in that it says that they were going to fake an alien invasion, i reckon its a possiblity this year, or next year, in line with the mayan calendar, 2007/2008 is the peak point of the current cycle.

http://www.amazon.com/Stargate-Conspiracy-Extraterrestrial-Mysteries-Ancient/dp/0425176584

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientastronauts.html


Don't trust this woman.

[eternal_spirit]

http://www.crystalinks.com/ancientastronauts.html


Don't trust this woman.

Why? Read her Biography on her site.

[hagbard_celine]

I read a book called 'The stargate conspiracy' about three years ago, in that it says that they were going to fake an alien invasion, i reckon its a possiblity this year, or next year, in line with the mayan calendar, 2007/2008 is the peak point of the current cycle.

http://www.amazon.com/Stargate-Conspiracy-Extraterrestrial-Mysteries-Ancient/dp/0425176584


The current publicity about UFO's, like on the Larry King Show, may be the rumblings.

I've read that book I think; is it by Stan Deyo?

[king triad]

I personally think we are going to be attacked....hopefully i'm wrong?...i dont think they will have to fake anything.:eek:

[boom]

Don't believe with closed eyes that something will be so because "Nostradamus said it", or anybody said it. Prophets of doom have been USED for propaganda to create negative thought patterns on the enemy.

I agree 100%.

Remember this:

By Christmas 1991, Mr. Icke predicted, Cuba, Greece, the Isle of Arran, the cliffs of Kent, and Teeside would be hit by a great earthquake (8.0 on the Richter scale) that would submerge them.


We should be wary of all.

Dave now says hes not a prophet, smart move getting out of the prophecy business.

[tinmenace]

:p

[boom]

Where would we be without laughter?

[hagbard_celine]

I personally think we are going to be attacked....hopefully i'm wrong?...i dont think they will have to fake anything.:eek:

I doubt if there are many hostile aliens, if any at all. The writer Brian Aldiss proposed something in his book Helliconia Winter that makes sense to me. When a species invents the ability to travel beyond its home planet it also invents the capbility to destroy itself, because the technology of astronautics is linked to the technology of weapons of mass destruction by the fundamenal laws of physics. The characters in the novel speculate that this is intentional. The universe has evolved this as a mechanism to protect itself. It tests the mettle of any upcoming space-travelling civilization. Because they inevitably possess both technologies they will be able to both fly out into space and wipe themselves out. Therefore if they are a violent and agressive race they will destroy themselves before they get the chance to spread to other planets. So the universe has a filter to make sure that the only gentle and respectful species spread out into space. Any others will either self-destruct or remain confined to their own world.

But I could be wrong. Besides, not all aliens come from other planets; some come from parallel dimensions. If there is a real alien invasion then you can bet the Illuminati will exploit it every bit as much as if it was faked. They might even "fail to react" like they did with Pearl Harbour. It would be a LIHOP alien iinvasion rather than a MIHOP.

[king triad]

If there was an alien invasion the powers that be would just go hide and let us figure it out?...

[kashmirz]

Also, you have to throw into the mix with prophets that pre cognition, and especially extremely far forward pre cognition is always susceptible to the particular persons filter.

you would also have to understand that those said visions could have come to change, depending on past activities and their permeation to the present.


And of course they could also be straight out charlatans.

all important points to consider

[hagbard_celine]

If there was an alien invasion the powers that be would just go hide and let us figure it out?...

Yeah, the words "rats" and "sinking ship" come to mind!
;)

[yngwie]

The picture is the Pentagon after the 9 11 attack ;) Its very odd looking dont you think....also seems a funny place for someone to take a teddy/doll :rolleyes:

>Hagbard....is the pic ok now? I know that you will know you have to move the pic around to find the part im on about :)

THat "alien" looks like foam/insulation, to me :confused:

[romas]

[QUOTE=mr_pixie;77311]

Don't believe with closed eyes that something will be so because "Nostradamus said it", or anybody said it. Prophets of doom have been USED for propaganda to create negative thought patterns on the enemy. During World War II, the Nazis threw a lot of sentences said by Nostradamus, and at the same time the English threw a lot of leaflets quoting Nostradamus to their favor ,also placed some of his quotes on the news reels, in order to have people think THEIR WAY.

Messages can always be manipulated, no matter who said it.

The intelligence services of the world know this very well.

So live your own creative life, create your own positive reality,

By the way World War III, has already started, the only difference with the other 2 wars, is that they can NOT do it in the same way, because
in WWI AND WWII, there was NO ATOM BOMB, this time it would be different because if it is used there would be no winner left, only dead grave-diggers,
and the NWO knows this. So we have Afganistan, Iraq, planning on Iran,
different places in the middle East ,and at the same time profitting with it.
They can only do it in divided ways, not everything at the same time.....
the world has never known peace.....
These guys have already been unmasked,
a lot of concience has been created. Very few people believe in polticians anymore.......
There is a better way out, which is not the world, it is through meditation,
your inner self, that the NWO knows nothing about, we will not destroy ourselves, governments are the ones in the war bu$ine$$, it's the only thing they know, but there are too many people awake about this, so they will have to change their tactics.
After all THE ENTIRE WORLD WANTS PEACE, only the few in governments want to profit from war$$$$$. They are THE OLD, a new generation, A NEW MAN, will come to this earth.

Don't believe in the manipulation of ANY prophet of Doom,
don't believe in any misinterpretation, out of context,
DON'T BELIEVE IN BELIEFS
Don't fall in love with words ,use them well only.:):)
Remember Life is infinite and endless.

Remember Osho's three L's: LIFE LOVE AND LAUGHTER:p;):D:o:rolleyes:
David ICke's Motto: OPEN YOUR EYES AND GET OFF YOUR KNEES



I would like to agree with above post and want to add that premature judgment is major flaw. How far do you think conspiracy goes? How will you know real Jesus from Anti? Would history repeat itself and you cricify the real one?
Be very careful of what you do!

There are plenty theories that Von Braun himself was "on the bad side" as he working for nazies, now my point is that not all people who worked for nazies are actually evil, but rather did it to survive etc, HOWEVER guys how can you can you believe him so fast?

A theory with 0 proof and pretty bad reputation.









QUOTE: amadeus:SETI-project is getting messages from aliens all the time, but they are suppressing the information.

SETI.. Is this a big attena like a hearing device up there in space that picks up sounds???

If the Aliens are real they'd come down to earth and make a public apperance and talk to us.

Unless we are like the sheep in the field to them and we are their food, it wouldn't be wise for them to let us know what there up to.

The human reptile aliens would be the sheep farmers.


Are you sharing account with some one? :D
You seem to contradict yourself alot and reply to your own messages :P

"If the Aliens are real they'd come down to earth and make a public apperance and talk to us"

In a cartoon maybe :D You see Aliens are not mexicans, you can't predict them ;)

[northern_light]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8A_X7fGC2D8

A possible scenario:


"What is going on? Something very sinister is going on. Polls reveal that over 90% of the Americans people believe in UFO's and 95% of these people believe the government is keeping this knowledge from the public. But Why?
Are they afraid the people will panic if an "Official" announcement were made? Hardly. Such an announcement would create interest and excitement and many questions, particularly by the churches, but do not panic. Why then the continued cover-up?

There is overwhelming evidence in the past several years from "Whistle Blowers" retired military officers who have finally said, "Enough is enough! It's time the government told the people the truth!" These officers, such as
Navy Intelligence officer, William Cooper, Major John Lear (whose father founded the Lear Jet Corp.) and Air Force officer William English, to name but a few, have all discovered the truth, and at the risk of their very
lives, are trying to alert YOU to the secrets behind the UFO's and the Alien Presence on this earth. These people worked on the secret projects, had access to 'classified' Top Secret documents , had seen with there own eyes
'captured' aliens, or extraterrestrial entities, UFO's and the incredible technology they brought with them.

Sightings of UFO's have been reported throughout history, and biblical and historic references to "Flaming Chariots" huge flying 'birds' and odd looking beings predate our history by thousands of years. In the 1940's several
alien spacecraft were recovered by the U.S. and other countries, along with a few dead aliens and one live one they named EBE (a name suggested by Dr. Vannever Bush and was short for Extraterrestrial Biological Entity).

In 1953 astronomers discovered large objects in space which were moving toward earth. At first they believed they were asteroids, but later evidence proved the objects could only be spaceships. Project Sigma and Project Plato
intercepted alien radio communication and using the computer binary language, was able to arrange a landing that resulted in face-to-face contact with alien beings from another planet. Meanwhile, a race of human-looking aliens
contacted the U.S. Government, warning us that the aliens orbiting the equator were hostile beings from Orion. These human-type aliens demanded we dismantle and destroy our nuclear weapons, that we were on a path of
self-destruction and we must stop killing each other, stop polluting the earth, stop raping the earths natural resources and learn to live in harmony with one another. President Eisenhower rejected these demands.

Later in 1954 the race of aliens, known as Greys, from Zeta Reticuli area in space, who had been orbiting the equator, landed at Holloman Air Force base. they stated their planet was dying and needed quarters on earth to conduct genetic experiments that might allow their race to survive; this in exchange for certain technology. President Eisenhower met with the aliens and a formal treaty was signed. The treaty stated the aliens would not interfere
in our affairs and we would not interfere in theirs. We would keep their presence on earth secret; they would furnish us with advanced technology. They could abduct humans on a limited basis for the purpose of medical
examination and monitoring, with the stipulation that the humans would not be harmed, would be returned to their point of abduction, that the humans have no memory of the event. It was also agreed the alien bases would be
constructed underground, beneath Indian reservations in the 4 corners area of Utah, New Mexico, Arizona and Colorado. Another was to be constructed in Nevada in the area known as S-4, about 7 miles south of area 51, known as 'Dreamland'. A multi-billion dollar secret fund was organized and kept by the Military Office of the White House, supposedly to build secret underground sites for the President and the staff in case of military attacks.

By secret Executive Memorandum, NSC5410, Eisenhower established a permanent committee known as "Majority Twelve" (MJ12) to oversee and conduct all covert activities with the aliens. This included FBI director J. Edgar Hoover and six leaders of the 'Council on Foreign Relations, known as the 'Wise Men' and later others from the Trilateral Commision. George Bush, Gordon Dean, and Brzezinski were among them.

A major finding of the commission was the aliens were using humans and animals for a source on glandular secretions, enzymes, hormonal secretions, blood and in horrible genetic experiments. The aliens explained these actions as necessary for their survival, that if their genetic structure were not improved, their race would cease to exist.

The ruling powers decided that one means of funding the alien project was to corner the illegal drug market. A young ambitious member of the Council on Foreign Relations was approached. His name is George Bush who at the time was president and CEO of Zapata Oil Co. based in Texas. Zapata Oil was experimenting with offshore oil drilling and it was arranged that the drugs could be shipped from South America to the offshore platforms by fishing
boats, then transferred to the U.S. shore by normal transportation, thus avoiding search by customs agents. The plan worked better than anyone expected, and today the CIA controls all the world's illegal drug markets.
One should remember, it was George Bush who first started selling drugs to our children. The drug money was used to finance the deep underground alien bases.

Conclusions: the Bilderburgers, the Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commision are the SECRET GOVERNMENT and rule this nation through MJ-12 and the study group known as the Jason Society.

Throughout history the aliens have manipulated and/or ruled the human race through various secret societies, religion and the occult. The CFR and the Trilateral Commision are in complete control of the alien technology and the
nation's economy. Eisenhower was the last president to know the entire overview of the alien problem. Succeeding presidents were told only what MJ-12 wanted them to know, and it was NOT the truth. MJ-12 presented each
new president with a picture of a lost alien culture seeking to renew itself, build a home on this planet and shower us with gifts of technology. Each president has bought the story hook, line, and sinker. Meanwhile, innocent people continue to suffer unspeakable horrors at the hands of alien and human scientists who are engaged in barbarous research that would make the Nazis pale in comparison. As if that is not enough, many people end up as food for
the insatiable alien appetite for biological enzymes, hormonal secretions and blood. At least 1 in every 40 Americans have been implanted with alien devices that are used to control them if necessity calls.

By 1989 over 3 million 'Greys' are occupying these deep multi-level underground complexes. Level 7 at Dulce is called "Nightmare Hall". They have welched on their agreement on abducting humans; today over 25 million
citizens have been abducted and implanted, a literal army awaiting orders to march! (Whitley Strieber has written best selling on his personal experience as have many others). For this reason other nations were informed. Within 5
months the communist monolith Russia was dismantled to unite with the U.S. and it's technology to fight the invasion. The Hubble Space Telescope was created to keep a watchful eye on the invasion fleet; Star Wars technology has been developed to hopefully stop them in outer space before they can get to the earth.

Today, the government is on the horns of a dilemma. Too may sources are releasing alien information. The public could get angry at continued secrecy. So MJ-12 plans soon to make an "Official" announcement, under
controlled conditions, probably Area 51. Network TV will be called to meet the staged 'landing' of the aliens, these being the Greys. They will come bearing gifts, technology that supposedly will heal Cancer and AIDS, retard
aging, etc. They will tell us they are 'saviors of humanity' who have come to defend the earth against an invasion of man-eating aliens called Reptoids.

This story is a LIE, they already work for the Reptoids! Their plan is to unify the world into a One-world Government, a 'New World Order' with the argument that only this can defeat the invasion by Reptoids. This is a trap to enslave the world's population. Control will be accomplished through the money system, a universal currency controlled by certain international bankers, who for years have been lackeys of the aliens, who seized upon their greed and lust for wealth and power as a means to bring about their evil plan to control the earth. (This also being the scenario predicted in the Bible's 'Book of Revelation' wherein only those who accept the Mark of the Beast (the aliens being the 'Beast' and the 'Mark' being some sort of laser tattoo or Credit Card they will use, which will allow people to buy and sell goods). Those who do not accept this 'Mark' must live outside the money system and survive somehow on their own, through barter etc."

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/fake_invasion.htm

[samkinison75]

Possibly the security threat that Bush will use to justify imposing his presidency indifenetly and basically eliminating the 2008 election?

I am referring to what supposed bill he signed in May 2007 which claims he can impose his presidency forever in the state of a national emergency, which shouldn't be anything new here to anyone.

[hagbard_celine]

Possibly the security threat that Bush will use to justify imposing his presidency indifenetly and basically eliminating the 2008 election?

I am referring to what supposed bill he signed in May 2007 which claims he can impose his presidency forever in the state of a national emergency, which shouldn't be anything new here to anyone.

The proces could wel have already started.

In Febuary, there was a UN meeting to discuss UFO's that decided to partial discolosue next year. (The meeting was open, but according to the witness, there were secret workshops with locked doors and guards outside! What were they discussing in there?:eek:)

[ufo_swatter]

Having seen a UFO that was the size of a city with thousands of lights on it I'd have to say that if it was a hologram it was some technical piece of kit that could make an image that good. But also, to go to such lenghts in the middle of the night, to have maybe a handful of people see something that no-one will believe they have seen is a great deal of effort for no gain. What's the point is speading a rumour that no-one but a few really believes in.
The military doesn't need UFOs to hold power, it can create wars and the threat of war without aliens, stupid mindless human religion is enough it seems.
Of the many UFO's I've seen, that huge ship was the one I can least accept , but I know what I saw, what I do know is that a ship that size has a purpose in coming here, something more than collecting data.
I'd say remember that the best disinformation is that which you believe, if people don't believe in UFOs, even when the evidence stacks up, then likely they'll not act. The human form aliens or their minions will throw you a few bones with the flesh of truth stuck to them and then one with a big fat lie attached, question is, will you swallow it.

[hagbard_celine]

Has anyone heard the theory that the RAF's aerobatic display troupe, the Red Arrows, have been stopped from doing their planned performance over the London Olympics opening ceremony in 2012?:confused: The official stopry is that some of the foreign cultures present might see them doing their stuff as a military attack!:eek: (Source: Now That's Weird radio show)

This is a new one on me! How on Earth can anyone interpret a squadron of brightly-coloured aircraft trailing coloured smoke as a military manoeuvre? The Red Arrows have been appearing at important festivals, entertaining the crowds, all over the world for decades! It's accepted by all cultures all over the world that they're completely harmless and I think they're brilliant! Any plans to ban them from the London Olympics is very, very odd and does make me suspicuous. Why?

Maybe Ian Crane is right. The airspace above the stadium will be needed for... other things!:eek:;)

[thetonic]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=8A_X7fGC2D8



http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/fake_invasion.htm


Good video sir!!!

And good thread Graflok!!!

[branko]

oh yeah... and don't forget that also NSA have realeased their ufo files

http://www.nsa.gov/ufo/


When did NSA released this files?

[joseph777]

As a young child, i had this dream...

I was walking along a coastal road of an eastern Canadian province.
The beautiful blue sky of the day turned into a sky filled invasion of alien craft. As the locals scambled in chaos...i managed to duck undercover inside a concrete cylinder and watch the attack on the people. These guys were not friendly.
It's my personal belief that there is an invasion coming. The Great war of Heaven.
Lucifer...the Great Serpent is cast out. "As above so below"...
The spiritual will no longer need the lustful lower nature of the phisical body...The serpent that runs up humanities spine will no longer anchor the body to the earth.

These are the days;

[joseph777]

Having seen a UFO that was the size of a city with thousands of lights on it I'd have to say that if it was a hologram it was some technical piece of kit that could make an image that good. But also, to go to such lenghts in the middle of the night, to have maybe a handful of people see something that no-one will believe they have seen is a great deal of effort for no gain. What's the point is speading a rumour that no-one but a few really believes in.
The military doesn't need UFOs to hold power, it can create wars and the threat of war without aliens, stupid mindless human religion is enough it seems.
Of the many UFO's I've seen, that huge ship was the one I can least accept , but I know what I saw, what I do know is that a ship that size has a purpose in coming here, something more than collecting data.
I'd say remember that the best disinformation is that which you believe, if people don't believe in UFOs, even when the evidence stacks up, then likely they'll not act. The human form aliens or their minions will throw you a few bones with the flesh of truth stuck to them and then one with a big fat lie attached, question is, will you swallow it.

You've made a believer out of me...Thanks. (it explains alot)

[particlezen]

THat "alien" looks like foam/insulation, to me :confused:

me too.

[nimlyn]

I’ve seen quite a few unusual flying objects in my life-time…Once when someone threw a pair of scissors at my cousin who ducked down and I copped an eye-full of steel…Fortunately the scissors hit handles first.

However! I have also seen other kinds of UFO’s which no-one can effectively identify….UFO’s like a ball of light (1995 in U.K) that circled a light air-craft a number of times before flying off in a separate direction from the plane.

Or the guests at my previous home in Australia on the 27–11-2003 who witnessed two satellites following each other which appeared to collide before one veered away in a different direction. At the same time of the satellite incident my home lost mains power and remained in the dark (candle-lit) for a couple of hours. On the following days news it was reported that the International Space Station had been bumped by a mystery object….Eek! I wonder?

Regarding dreams about UFO’s…I’ve experienced them too but what I find strange about the dreams is, when I dream about aliens or UFO’s around my vicinity in Australia they generally appear to be harmless. Although when I dream about UFO’s near England they are usually attacking / invading.

The dreams about UFO’s over the UK are often attacking my home (place of birth) town…An area that’s not too far from some of the UFO sightings that’s recently made a stir in the news.

One of my invading dreams actually ended with a red stop sign which popped up and stated Raz Cmog?

Strange!

Anyhow! An interesting story which I heard about a few years ago is the Cumberland Spaceman…:)

http://www.beamsinvestigations.org.uk/The%20Cumberland%20Spaceman.htm

[chattanova]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNMduP0ZLrM

[romas]

Well it's obvious if aliens wanted they would have taken over long time ago, even E. Mitchell says the same, blue beam will flop.

[size_of_light]

How would you fake it to best effect?

Assuming they have the technology to produce such a lightshow, I don't imagine they would project fleets of UFOs over major cities ala Signs or Independence Day.

You would want one centralised event to control the flow of information.

What would it be?

Any thoughts?

[romas]

How would you fake it to best effect?

Assuming they have the technology to produce such a lightshow, I don't imagine they would project fleets of UFOs over major cities ala Signs or Independence Day.

You would want one centralised event to control the flow of information.

What would it be?

Any thoughts?


Probably couple of man-made saucer craft flying around some "well-known" monument, that has explosives planted :p they could just make a light show from above atmosphere ships and then set off the explosives, make another 9-11 and blame them Osamega Alpha Bin-Proxycon xD

[size_of_light]

I think they'd portray them as enigmatic, somewhat aloof, and seemingly non-hostile.

Possibly a staged crash ala Roswell, that is actually covered by the MSM, with bodies, technology etc., unfolding over several days, and revelations being drip fed to the public.

Then a press conference where Morgan Freeman - sorry Barak Obama - bullshits on about what they have established, how amazing and historic it all is, how he is demanding to know about Roswell etc.

I think it would be done in stages like this to aclimatise the public, and make it a gripping yarn.

Slowly revelations would be made about what actually did happen at Roswell and other incidents....all governments would then decide to work together and reveal and pool what information they have, and establish a new 'cosmic representative assembly' charged with co-ordinating the global response to this new information and technology.

Once the initial novelty wore off, the whole thing would be bogged down in internal bickering, leaks, and bureaucratic fuck ups, that would bore the public witless.

After a few years of conditioning the public to the new paradigm in this way, you could really have some fun and make some breakthroughs, and establish live contact! wow!!!! and negotiate treaties that called for the abolition of all national sovereignty etc. etc. as per the bugheads 'peaceful galactic philosophy'. Let's face it, by this stage most of us would be so impatient to actually see the little fuckers that we'd sign our own grandmothers death warrants just for a glimpse.

Then you could start rolling out a new 'Monster of the Week' whenever the agenda called for it and basically run the planet any way you wanted.

[hagbard_celine]

I'd keep it simple. Some holographic lights and massive motherships in the sky, including some real ones if complicit aliens would be willing to sell their services. Then a few nukes launched at various cities by ballistic missile and then blamed on the aliens. UGH! I'm quite a good Devil's Advocate!:eek::(:confused:

[airkraft]

What about having some sort of show from the aliens ships, then having contact physically, at which time they release a new virus thats going to eventually wipe 90% of the population out, and they blame it on the aliens, saying they brought it with them....2 birds, one stone

[size_of_light]

[QUOTE=size_of_light;442326]I think they'd portray them as enigmatic, somewhat aloof, and seemingly non-hostile.

Possibly a staged crash ala Roswell, that is actually covered by the MSM, with bodies, technology etc., unfolding over several days, and revelations being drip fed to the public.

Then a press conference where Morgan Freeman - sorry Barak Obama - bullshits on about what they have established, how amazing and historic it all is, how he is demanding to know about Roswell etc.

I think it would be done in stages like this to aclimatise the public, and make it a gripping yarn.

Slowly revelations would be made about what actually did happen at Roswell and other incidents....all governments would then decide to work together and reveal and pool what information they have, and establish a new 'cosmic representative assembly' charged with co-ordinating the global response to this new information and technology.

This is the kinda shit I'm talking about -- just happened. The whole report feels staged to me. See what you think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awGOXaAA0Ts&eurl=http://www.ufoblogger.blogspot.com/

[romas]

What about having some sort of show from the aliens ships, then having contact physically, at which time they release a new virus thats going to eventually wipe 90% of the population out, and they blame it on the aliens, saying they brought it with them....2 birds, one stone


Well Phil Schneider talks about that scenario alot and I trust Phil, because he connects ALOT of dots for me, specifically Billy Meier case and the reptilians+greys etc, he never denies anything, but rather says what he has knowledge on something, it's very tragic they killed him, one of the greatest heroes of our time imo :(

[graflok]

John Lear recently predicted on another forum that the "invasion" will happen
this year, before the election date, resulting in declaration of martial law and
cancellation of the election.

[size_of_light]

John Lear recently predicted on another forum that the "invasion" will happen
this year, before the election date, resulting in declaration of martial law and
cancellation of the election.

"Bring it on, I'd prefer a straight fight instead of all this sneaking around!"

- Han Solo

The problem I have with an 'invasion' scenario is that almost everyone on the planet assumes that an invading alien race would have such superior technology that the idea of resisting it would be laughable.

That makes it a rather flimsy pretext for imposing martial law.

[graflok]

The problem I have with an 'invasion' scenario is that almost everyone on the planet assumes that an invading alien race would have such superior technology that the idea of resisting it would be laughable.

That makes it a rather flimsy pretext for imposing martial law.

Box cutter-wielding Arabs crashing planes into buildings is a flimsy pretext for a
war on Iraq too. :)

[size_of_light]

Box cutter-wielding Arabs crashing planes into buildings is a flimsy pretext for a
war on Iraq too. :)

If anybody wants me I'll be in the basement. :eek:

[themime]

Just as a theory but what would happen if they announced one day that several large "Motherships" were moving into orbit around the world.

Then they sent out some of the Area-51 stuff to make pretty light shows over the major cites, not the big UFO's but enough to cause a panic.

Then they nuke a couple of big cities from orbit.

Would the people remember that they never saw any city size ships or would they remember the Independence Day / V motherships that they'd seen on TV?

[hagbard_celine]

Just as a theory but what would happen if they announced one day that several large "Motherships" were moving into orbit around the world.

Then they sent out some of the Area-51 stuff to make pretty light shows over the major cites, not the big UFO's but enough to cause a panic.

Then they nuke a couple of big cities from orbit.

Would the people remember that they never saw any city size ships or would they remember the Independence Day / V motherships that they'd seen on TV?


The seeds would be planted in the subconscious and the instigators of the hoax would be hoping that in all the shock and horror the people would remain in their R-complex and not make the connection. I'm hoping that they will make the connection and be suspicious.

[romas]

They could just say "we do not know what hit us, but we must gather resources for retaliation" etc. Public could easily be left it total dark as they are when it comes black budget, I mean no one even knows US has any of the "special" weapons, it's a basic non-fact, they could be just laundring all $$$ while X-files does the job convincing otherwise.

What is the dumb public going to do? Worry about their mortgage, stock investment etc and sit quietly.

[themime]

How about this as another angle.

What if the extraterrestrial threat wasn't UFO's but biological?

What if they announced one day that extraterrestrial microbes had reached Earth and they released the new Super-Ebola right on cue. They could claim that this required the use of orbiting bases to monitor approaching threats with the capabilities to respond while at the same time getting the mass panic and population decrease they so desire.

Who knows the mass vaccination program could cover chip implantation and call for UN and FEMA to take control of the world without having a visible enemy.

Kind of like terrorism but without the tricky paper trail.

Ok I'm going to stop now as I'm starting to scare myself.:D:eek::D

[hagbard_celine]

They could just say "we do not know what hit us, but we must gather resources for retaliation" etc. Public could easily be left it total dark as they are when it comes black budget, I mean no one even knows US has any of the "special" weapons, it's a basic non-fact, they could be just laundring all $$$ while X-files does the job convincing otherwise.

What is the dumb public going to do? Worry about their mortgage, stock investment etc and sit quietly.

Dunno, but it scares me how people reacted to 9/11. With no evidence at all the world has reacted in a way it hasn't since Pearl Harbour!:eek: Imagine asking them to consider the Black Programme and its secret hoard from the 2.4 $trillion missing from the Department of Defence!

[hagbard_celine]

How about this as another angle.

What if the extraterrestrial threat wasn't UFO's but biological?

What if they announced one day that extraterrestrial microbes had reached Earth and they released the new Super-Ebola right on cue. They could claim that this required the use of orbiting bases to monitor approaching threats with the capabilities to respond while at the same time getting the mass panic and population decrease they so desire.

Who knows the mass vaccination program could cover chip implantation and call for UN and FEMA to take control of the world without having a visible enemy.

Kind of like terrorism but without the tricky paper trail.

Ok I'm going to stop now as I'm starting to scare myself.:D:eek::D

Yeah, don't give 'em ideas!:D

It's one possible strategy, but then again, without some very impressive visual "shock and awe!" manoeuvre would it really sink in.

It could be on the cards though. They're making a movie about an epidemic right now; I saw a trailer for it when I was last at the flicks.

[romas]

Dunno, but it scares me how people reacted to 9/11. With no evidence at all the world has reacted in a way it hasn't since Pearl Harbour!:eek: Imagine asking them to consider the Black Programme and its secret hoard from the 2.4 $trillion missing from the Department of Defence!



Public does not have "need to know basis" the biggest pile of shit ever legalized imo. Criminals under disguise of a secret government.

[hagbard_celine]

Public does not have "need to know basis" the biggest pile of shit ever legalized imo. Criminals under disguise of a secret government.

That's right! We all have a "need to know" when it comes to the universe we live in!

[thegoodnessisgood]

[QUOTE=mr_pixie;77311]

Don't believe with closed eyes that something will be so because "Nostradamus said it", or anybody said it. Prophets of doom have been USED for propaganda to create negative thought patterns on the enemy. During World War II, the Nazis threw a lot of sentences said by Nostradamus, and at the same time the English threw a lot of leaflets quoting Nostradamus to their favor ,also placed some of his quotes on the news reels, in order to have people think THEIR WAY.

Remember Osho's three L's: LIFE LOVE AND LAUGHTER:p;):D:o:rolleyes:
David ICke's Motto: OPEN YOUR EYES AND GET OFF YOUR KNEES

Yeah this is true. I believe that the purpose of any psychic message prophet or other wise that is of a negative nature is ALWAYS to show us the potential of what is coming SO THAT we can change it. For example. you see your self dropping something, that makes you pay attention, the result, it is not fulfilled. The purpose of prophecy is ultimately to warn, it is not a prediction. Predictions are ultimately, impossible although there are probabilities of reality based on inertia and predictable inputs into the system. There are always unknown elements however.

I think we will be alright BECAUSE we are so concerned and working towards educating people and raising the energy of the world through good intention at the least. The freedom marches with the peaceful revolution in the USA are fantastic because they are based on education and simple political principles that are founded on simple spiritual principles of liberty designated by God / almighty (not in the christian sense in the benevolent universal sense).

As long as the intention is there to take responsibility for our own reality and to teach others by example and by friendly interaction, then we have the best chance for this new world order to just run out of steam. To run at it and attack it in any way shape or form is to be defeated before you take the first step. It cannot be defeated in that manner because to do that is to feed it your own energy and then lunge against your own self and the collective self. Lead by example is the way I say.

[cruise4]

Re. Ian Crane - "I imagine he's something of a pariah in the 911 Truth movement!"

Something I don't know Hagbard? I'm giving out Codex Alimantarius. Whats to know about IC?

[hagbard_celine]

Re. Ian Crane - "I imagine he's something of a pariah in the 911 Truth movement!"

Something I don't know Hagbard? I'm giving out Codex Alimantarius. Whats to know about IC?

I'm basing my assumption on my own experience of 9/11 Truth when I worked with them myself a few years ago. Most of them want to cling on to an image of conventional respectablity. They want to be seen in the same lighyt as, say, environmental campaigners. They hate being called "conspiracy theorists" and are desperate to avoid being perceived as sailing under the same flag as them. They were a bit frosty towards me because I am one of those "conspiracy theorists". I talk about stuff like the New World Order, UFO's etc. So is Ian R Crane.

[bulgariaole]

There is an "alien message" circulating around the net, i dont know what to think of it other than its extriemly well written, tears filled my eyes when I read it. Here's the link
http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm

Theres another one that claims that aliens will come on Oct/14/2008 but is less striking as the first.

[hagbard_celine]

There is an "alien message" circulating around the net, i dont know what to think of it other than its extriemly well written, tears filled my eyes when I read it. Here's the link
http://www.geocities.com/changetheworld_now/Changetheworld1.htm

Theres another one that claims that aliens will come on Oct/14/2008 but is less striking as the first.


Blimey!:eek: It's the day after my birthday. I better not drink too much; don't want them to turn up when I've got a hangover.:D

Looks interesting. I'll have to read it all carefully and get back to you.

[sexi_co]

Probably couple of man-made saucer craft flying around some "well-known" monument, that has explosives planted :p they could just make a light show from above atmosphere ships and then set off the explosives, make another 9-11 and blame them Osamega Alpha Bin-Proxycon xD

"Osamega Alpha Bin-Proxycon"

hahahahaha
:D

----------------------------
I think they have been grooming us for alien invasion since the 50's. In the last 15 years, there has been more space / alien films than you could shine a torch at. TPTB are begining to realise that the whole 9/11 thing is seen as BS, also that people realising that 9/11 is bs have then investigated other 'events' and realised that they are bs too, kinda like 9/11 was the proverbial straw for human Consciousness. People are waking up now faster than they ever have, so what can they do to regain control? An alien invasion would be a great 'sheep dog' to return many to the pen.

See, my problem is, i visit alternative information sites like this, so i am more than aware that if aliens started shooting at us in the streets, chances are tptb will be behind it somewhere and somehow, but, im not sure that would stop me asking for their help, to help me deffend my family. What else could i do? If i stick to my beliefs and flip tptb the bird, my family will suffer and die, and if i ask for their help and 'fall into line', my family will suffer and die.

There is also the possibility that aliens could come 'for a fight', have nothing to do with tptb, they offer their help and i refuse it thinking its all some elaborate plan.

Alternatively, aliens could come, offering great promise of a better life and so on and i refuse them also, thinking that it could be a trap.
I do feel that they would be phsycic and would be able to convey their eligibility, but again, ive grown wise of how easy we are to psychologically manipulate and so would be untrusting of even that.

Man this situation sucks!!

:confused::confused::confused:

[jesta_g]

yeh it is pretty shit that we have been put right in the middle of this shit while never having a true educated choice.

hows about this oct 14th visitation? whats the latest words? im going to keep my eye on this event like a hawk. something inside really feels that its going to be staged. if the govt. it is quite unfair to have this placed on us however it is only upto us to get outta this shit. times are going to be very interesting indeed soon.

[astrochicken]

I just hope when it starts then it's in FULL-HD and Dolby Digital Surround 6.1.

Otherwise i'll just go about tending to my vegetables..

[kale]

So basically there is going to be a real life re-run of independence day except the aliens are fake?

And we get our asses shot by some massive weapons system.

[hagbard_celine]

So basically there is going to be a real life re-run of independence day except the aliens are fake?

And we get our asses shot by some massive weapons system.

Something along those lines, yes.

[cybersurf]

"Just before he [von Braun] died, he gave an interview to Carol Rosin, in which he basically said that in order to sustain the military-industrial complex that first a false threat of terrorists would be created and used on the public and then asteroids and finally a false alien threat."

See article and video here:
http://evpreversespeaking2.blogspot.com/2007/03/what-future-holds.html

This could be the reason for the recent UFO reports in mainstream media, e.g., in Phoenix and at O'Hare Airport, etc. That is, to help set up the public mindset. Also, France's recent release of UFO information.

Also, since 9/11 is blowing up in the faces of the NWO boys, they may feel a need to go to the next step (the fake invasion) sooner than originally planned.

This year, maybe?

graflok

A fake alien invasion DOES NOT RULE OUT the fact of an Alien Presence on Earth.

[hagbard_celine]

A fake alien invasion DOES NOT RULE OUT the fact of an Alien Presence on Earth.

Not at all, nor does it a REAL alien invasion.;)

[sophia_h]

Why? Read her Biography on her site.

you are right

I knew her for several years in Brooklyn where she still lives
in Bay Ridge.

very subtle and dysfunctional

she is jewish with huge support from the Ukraine jewish
immigrant community over the last ten years as Ukranian
jews took over best areas of Brooklyn.
Cant say more here as it could lead to legal involvements.



:(

[marpat]

"Just before he [von Braun] died, he gave an interview to Carol Rosin, in which he basically said that in order to sustain the military-industrial complex that first a false threat of terrorists would be created and used on the public and then asteroids and finally a false alien threat."

See article and video here:
http://evpreversespeaking2.blogspot.com/2007/03/what-future-holds.html

This could be the reason for the recent UFO reports in mainstream media, e.g., in Phoenix and at O'Hare Airport, etc. That is, to help set up the public mindset. Also, France's recent release of UFO information.

Also, since 9/11 is blowing up in the faces of the NWO boys, they may feel a need to go to the next step (the fake invasion) sooner than originally planned.

This year, maybe?

graflok

Just before he died? that would mean he could not be quesioned on it. It would also mean the interviewer could say what they wanted and who could question that? seems a bit too convienent to be able to use his name but have no comeback.

[romas]

Just before he died? that would mean he could not be quesioned on it. It would also mean the interviewer could say what they wanted and who could question that? seems a bit too convienent to be able to use his name but have no comeback.



Yes ofcourse, we should be skeptical, but you must admit it does make sense from economic stand point, if there is no conflict soldiers are rendered useless.

[hagbard_celine]

Just before he died? that would mean he could not be quesioned on it. It would also mean the interviewer could say what they wanted and who could question that? seems a bit too convienent to be able to use his name but have no comeback.


That's why it's important to verify the likelihood of von Braun's statement in relation to its source: Carol Rosin. What is her background? What are her motives? What was her affinity with von Braun? Does she have any reason to lie? Are her statements backed up by things other people have said?

[jmmk]

A fake alien invasion was done once via radio (War of the Worlds broadcast)
to see how the public would react. If the government does it for real, they
would probably come out later and say it was all a hoax to convince the
masses that aliens are non-existent. The time is close to 2012 and they're
gonna try something new or re-vamp something old.

[hagbard_celine]

A fake alien invasion was done once via radio (War of the Worlds broadcast)
to see how the public would react. If the government does it for real, they
would probably come out later and say it was all a hoax to convince the
masses that aliens are non-existent. The time is close to 2012 and they're
gonna try something new or re-vamp something old.

I've often thought that the War of the Worlds radio show was some kind of test. Orson Welles was the fall-guy obviously!

[jmmk]

Yes, and creating all that mass hysteria for the lizard vampires to feed on
was probably a gluttonous orgy.

[hagbard_celine]

It also set a precedent for the future. It allowed the psychological manipulators information on how to design future ploys of a similar kind, films like Independence Day etc.

[ajaydean]

I think it's Brotherhood technology behind UFO's. Some are physical crafts other are holograms. Jesus coming down to Earth on a cloud as predicted in the Bible as the second coming of Christ the Saviour returning would be no problem for them with their special effects or the good ET@s kicking reps ass...either that or....

They could make it appear like in the movies, a bunch of actors mixed with special effects pretending to be the avenging God killing the Worlds Governments, when in reality the world leaders and illuminati would go under cover to manipulate and control the peoples from behind the scenes in secret underground locations, controlling people with their technologically advanced mind controlled machines.

There would be rumours by the masses that the evil rulers weren't really killed by the good et's and gods angels who would now be in power and they would be called the new conspircay theorists lol ha, lets have a puff of that!

[jhado]

Ever since I was a little kid ,I've always thought that if there was to be an "invasion", it would be around Christmas.
I've only ever seen a ufo once, a few of us stood watching, and no-one could explain it.

[hagbard_celine]

Ever since I was a little kid ,I've always thought that if there was to be an "invasion", it would be around Christmas.
I've only ever seen a ufo once, a few of us stood watching, and no-one could explain it.

Why Christmas, Jhado? Or is just a premonition?

[jhado]

Just something I've always felt, as I say, ever since I was a little kid.
Premonition? I don't know, I can't explain it, I just "know".

[hagbard_celine]

Just something I've always felt, as I say, ever since I was a little kid.
Premonition? I don't know, I can't explain it, I just "know".

Thanks for sharing that. We'll soon find out one way or the other methinks.:cool::eek:

[gilly]

I'll unsticky this one now, as it's not attracted comment for a few weeks. :)

[chattanova]

I'll unsticky this one now, as it's not attracted comment for a few weeks. :)

Thanks gilly for removing the dead meat, a good thread but pretty outdated :)

[hagbard_celine]

Thanks gilly for removing the dead meat, a good thread but pretty outdated :)


So why did you go and bump it again!?:rolleyes:

:eek:

... Oops!:o That's what I just did!?:D:D

[indianinthemachine]

PROJECT BLUEBEAM: ARE SATELLITE PROJECTIONS GOING TO BE USED TO DECEIVE HUMANITY?

Dear world,

The sky continues to excite those who are looking up in the sky with open eyes. As the new world order makes it's last pitiful effort to both deceive 6 billion people and attack our star family who have come from off-world to assist us during earth's amazing transformation, we can see evidence of both in the sky right here and right now. I have collected some videos (and information related to those videos) that I believe represent some very unusual sky energies from secret government projects AND actual visitation from our off-world star family.

Indian in the machine
"Everything makes sense....only the Truth will remain".

http://www.indianinthemachine.com/projectbluebeam.html

http://www.indianinthemachine.com/newbanner2012_edited-5.jpg

[rodin]

The Gary McKinnon Experience fits the Alien Invasion Hoax MO to a tee. I think this thread is important.

Hoaxes R Us operate full spectrum. They reward those who sell their soul

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article6737018.ece