good-evil

[michael]

Today I watched a dog chasing doves.

He had, obviously, fun.

I can`t I help, for me its evil when a person is killed.
Watching the dog and nature, we live in an evil world.

At least we have freedom of choice.

Do you have idea, where this evil comes from ?

[bigus_dickus]

Do you have idea, where this evil comes from ?

yes, it comes from you, otherwise you would not see it.

[ho1ogram]

yes, it comes from you, otherwise you would not see it.
lol... that's a pretty broad statement that doesn't really stand up on it's own. Are you saying I manifest everything I see that is 'evil'?

I don't think michael was saying the dog was evil, but that nature is imbued with a predatory mind which is a common theme of many people's work. Icke himself claims that the natural world is a reflection of the reptillian mind and Don Juan says to Carlos Castaneda that the predator's of man gave us their mind.
http://www.harmonymindbodyspirit.com/archives/predator.shtml

[limelady]

Hello Michael

I agree. In my opinion, the matix program we are forced to live in (here in 3D) is evil from start to finish. So much fear and suffering experienced by ALL species in order just to survive here. Something is always hunting and killing something else for its own survival....often killing victims in the most painful way possible. So much pain, so much bloodshed, so much aggression. Have you ever seen a flock of birds turn on a sick (once accepted and appreciated) member of the flock and literally peck it to shreds? Can you even imagine a more agonising way to end your life when you are already feeling sick?

People say "oh that's just the laws of nature"...... "the survival of the fittest"....."gods will" ..... and similar bollocks.

This is a garbage explanation. Most of natures creatures live their entire lives in fear EVERY DAY of becoming pray to something else.....yet they must also prey on something else for their own survival. What sort of a diabolical mind would come up with a 'program' like this for creatures with a central nervous system to have to live with?

Somebody (or something) evil perhaps?

IMO whoever designed this 'system' was no loving god....not even a half decent one - this program was set-up by something more evil than anybody here could even hope to fully comprehend. It enjoys EVERY moment of the hell it has created for all the creatures who have to live here.

I dunno about anybody else, but I'm heading out of this place the first possible chance I get!

[i_am]

Hello Michael


I dunno about anybody else, but I'm heading out of this place the first possible chance I get!

Yep! Beam me up, Scottie :p

[bigus_dickus]

Yep! Beam me up, Scottie :p

and then nuke'em

[cleft_asunder]

lol... that's a pretty broad statement that doesn't really stand up on it's own. Are you saying I manifest everything I see that is 'evil'?

I don't think michael was saying the dog was evil, but that nature is imbued with a predatory mind which is a common theme of many people's work. Icke himself claims that the natural world is a reflection of the reptillian mind and Don Juan says to Carlos Castaneda that the predator's of man gave us their mind.
http://www.harmonymindbodyspirit.com/archives/predator.shtml

God dammit, I've heard that name Don Juan so many times, what the heck is the deal with him? Why does he know this stuff, and what should I read from him?

[ho1ogram]

Don Juan is/was a Yaqui Indian who became a sorceror - was taught the esoteric and discovered or was shown multiple dimensions.

He then taught Carlos Castaneda, took him on as a student in the late 60's or early 70's (I think). Carlos wrote a dozzen or more books about his experiences with Don Juan. It is very hard for me to describe exactly what the books are about. They aren't your usual conspiracy or spiritual books.

His teaching s allow for greater scope in their impact on an individual I think. They move spaces inside me is the best way I can describe them. I haven't read 'the other side of infinity' which is quoted at that l;ink above but it sounds like a ripper.

I really enjoyed 'The Art of Dreaming' - that one spoke to me the most.

Somebody else will probably coe along and giver you some more info. on him. I'm not sure how to describe the books. I like them because they deal with themes, concepts and worlds more than 'facts'. They resonate with me and the feelings are hard to pin down. Actually they probably do deal with facts but they are outside of my realms of understanding to a certain extent.

His work has shown me that multiple realities that exist around and within us. They seem to reinforce the notion of infinity without absolute phrases like 'all is one' or 'infinite love is all there is' if you get my drift. Don Juan teaches Carlos Castaneda with experiences rather than words...

[cleft_asunder]

Don Juan is/was a Yaqui Indian who became a sorceror - was taught the esoteric and discovered or was shown multiple dimensions.

He then taught Carlos Castaneda, took him on as a student in the late 60's or early 70's (I think). Carlos wrote a dozzen or more books about his experiences with Don Juan. It is very hard for me to describe exactly what the books are about. They aren't your usual conspiracy or spiritual books.

His teaching s allow for greater scope in their impact on an individual I think. They move spaces inside me is the best way I can describe them. I haven't read 'the other side of infinity' which is quoted at that l;ink above but it sounds like a ripper.

I really enjoyed 'The Art of Dreaming' - that one spoke to me the most.

Somebody else will probably coe along and giver you some more info. on him. I'm not sure how to describe the books. I like them because they deal with themes, concepts and worlds more than 'facts'. They resonate with me and the feelings are hard to pin down. Actually they probably do deal with facts but they are outside of my realms of understanding to a certain extent.

His work has shown me that multiple realities that exist around and within us. They seem to reinforce the notion of infinity without absolute phrases like 'all is one' or 'infinite love is all there is' if you get my drift. Don Juan teaches Carlos Castaneda with experiences rather than words...


I must...read...these...books...iiiiieeeeeee!:eek:

[ho1ogram]

I must...read...these...books...iiiiieeeeeee!:eek:
After saying all that I've said about them, some of them have some pretty boring passages. Your basically reading about someone else trying to understand what DonJuan is teaching him. Sometimes I hust wanna grab the author, shake him and say, "get on with it."
Anyway, we've gone off topic... :o

[i am all i am]

I must...read...these...books...iiiiieeeeeee!:eek:

Here's a link with a bibliography and a brief description of each book.

http://www.biblio.com/authors/652/Carlos_Castaneda_Biography.html

Enjoy.


With LOVE.

[cleft_asunder]

Here's a link with a bibliography and a brief description of each book.

http://www.biblio.com/authors/652/Carlos_Castaneda_Biography.html

Enjoy.


With LOVE.

Thanks mate.

[bigus_dickus]

lol... that's a pretty broad statement that doesn't really stand up on it's own. Are you saying I manifest everything I see that is 'evil'?

what if i did? would you believe it?

I don't think michael was saying the dog was evil, but that nature is imbued with a predatory mind which is a common theme of many people's work.

the same way the snow is a predator when it becomes an avalanche? or the sea, when it becomes a tsunami? or the air when it becomes a hurricane? or the skin of the earth when it trembles? some people see our universe as beauty and love and others as evil and violent. it is the same universe viewed by 2 different perspectives. it is a magic picture, a mirror, spot the fear. in which side of the mirror does the fear live?

[friendsinthesky]

*The illuminati cull humans

*Human cull humans and animals

*Animals cull each other

..do we humans behave like the illuminati? Do you have a can of mortein (insect spray killer) in your cupboard? We can learn from insects, ant coloneys docomentry's are fascinating, we behave just like them ONLY WORSE!

The illuminati cull us humans for pure evil intentions. Animals cull each other for survival.

[ho1ogram]

it is a magic picture, a mirror, spot the fear. in which side of the mirror does the fear live?
dude you know what I'm saying, peadophilia is shithouse any way you look at it. Are you sure your not trying to convince yourself that everything is allright? Do you really live without fear?

I understand the concept and I believe it, but I haven't transcended fear, I still live in this shitty world. Yeah, yeah its beautiful, i agree, I truly do. But if you lived in Iraq t the moment and your kids were born with depleted uranium sickness you'd be thinking "this is shit".

[bigus_dickus]

dude you know what I'm saying, peadophilia is shithouse any way you look at it.

do you mean that pedophilia is a disease that anyone can catch?

Are you sure your not trying to convince yourself that everything is allright? Do you really live without fear?

i really live without fear my friend. i have been into deep shit like most of us and i have gotten my hands dirty cleaning up.

I understand the concept and I believe it, but I haven't transcended fear, I still live in this shitty world. Yeah, yeah its beautiful, i agree, I truly do. But if you lived in Iraq t the moment and your kids were born with depleted uranium sickness you'd be thinking "this is shit".

the people who did this to the children need much more help than the children. they are not "alive", they don't know what they are doing. sometimes to have such a short life in these conditions is a blessing.

i am not mad at the aggressors and have no pity for the children, but i am the same unconditional love for everyone. is this too much to be contained in a soul?

[ho1ogram]

I hear ya.

[michael]

What??!

[cheeb]

Hello Michael

I agree. In my opinion, the matix program we are forced to live in (here in 3D) is evil from start to finish. So much fear and suffering experienced by ALL species in order just to survive here. Something is always hunting and killing something else for its own survival....often killing victims in the most painful way possible. So much pain, so much bloodshed, so much aggression. Have you ever seen a flock of birds turn on a sick (once accepted and appreciated) member of the flock and literally peck it to shreds? Can you even imagine a more agonising way to end your life when you are already feeling sick?

People say "oh that's just the laws of nature"...... "the survival of the fittest"....."gods will" ..... and similar bollocks.

This is a garbage explanation. Most of natures creatures live their entire lives in fear EVERY DAY of becoming pray to something else.....yet they must also prey on something else for their own survival. What sort of a diabolical mind would come up with a 'program' like this for creatures with a central nervous system to have to live with?

Somebody (or something) evil perhaps?

IMO whoever designed this 'system' was no loving god....not even a half decent one - this program was set-up by something more evil than anybody here could even hope to fully comprehend. It enjoys EVERY moment of the hell it has created for all the creatures who have to live here.

I dunno about anybody else, but I'm heading out of this place the first possible chance I get!

This system has been fully documented and explained,its called the theory of evolution[see charles darwin-the origin of species]
It is governed by a process called natural selection which includes survival of the fittest where by the most adaptive species will live long enough to reproduce and pass on its genes[dna] and therefore this advantage to its offspring
This proces has been going on for millenia and is one of the majo scientific facts that is watertight.
The tendancy to anthropomorphise animals is irrelevant to this theory [us included as animals]
Problem solved.