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kblood
13-03-2008, 07:57 PM
http://www.dailytech.com/Mixed+Reality+Now+a+Reality/article11023.htm

New research into "mixed reality states" promises Matrix-like "whoa"

Real-time model-based feedback is something that is far from commonplace in today's world. The basic concept of real-time feedback is to take a physical system, modeled by mathematic equations, and then couple it with a computer as a virtual system.

Sensor monitoring gives the processing logic an idea of how well the real world system is conforming to the theoretical model. The results are processed and yield adjustments (feedback) to the real world system to make it in tune with the theoretical model. The result is that the virtual and real world models converge into a single "mixed reality" system, bridging a the virtual (theoretical) and physical world.

Such an approach holds large benefits for everything from car handling and fuel economy, to better aircraft dynamics and smoother robotic control. To accomplish such useful applications, researchers working on mixed reality had to start simple -- real simple.

Researchers at the University of Illinois created a virtual pendulum and a real world counterpart that behaves as the world's first mixed reality system. Bidirectional instantaneous coupling, adjustments both to the real world pendulum by motor feedback and the virtual pendulum by tweaking mathematical parameters, yielded a single system in which both systems' are synchronized. The result is two pendulums swinging as one.

The experiment, the first fully successful one of its kind, sounds simple but raises mind-blowing questions about reality. According to Illinois physicist Alfred Hubler, "In a mixed reality state there is no clear boundary between the real system and the virtual system. The line blurs between what’s real and what isn’t."

Hubler describes the pendulums synchronization, stating, "[The pendulums] suddenly noticed each other, synchronized their motions, and danced together indefinitely."

Two physical mechanical systems have been previously coupled, but never before has a real world and virtual one been mixed. Such a breakthrough was only possible thanks to ultra-fast computing, which allowed real-time processing of the pendulum data, and real-time response. Hubler states, "Computers are now fast enough that we can detect the position of the real pendulum, compute the dynamics of the virtual pendulum, and compute appropriate feedback to the real pendulum, all in real time."

Hubler thinks that eventually coupling of the real and virtual worlds, may lead to it being hard to tell what is real and what is fake -- a topic immortalized by generations of science fiction writers. Hubler worries people may become defensive and paranoid in the real world, based on threats in the virtual world.

The research was funded by the National Science Foundation and will be presented by Hubler at the annual American Physical Society meeting, which will be held in New Orleans, March 10-14, 2008.

kblood
13-03-2008, 08:07 PM
Computers is now officially on the way to being able to simulate reality, like it is to us :)

Since some of the first days of computer game programming, realism has often been reverse enginered. Take a good old game like Prince of Persia, which used motion capture to make realistic movement of the character, and today it is even more so, because game characters sometimes end up being played by real persons controlling the CGI character with sensors all over their body.

Now it is beginning to become the computer itself that will be able to calculate real life physics instead of just reverse engineer it, or I guess mimick reality is a better choice of words. It might just become a different kind of mimicking, but it will be less dependant on knowing how it real life physics are, since they are what the computers will be doing in the future. Not just acting like some physical object did, or simulating it according to the best calculations we are able to come up with.

Some day we probably will have computers able to make matrix within matrix within matrix :) There is a movie that I forgot the name of. It was about a Matrix based on Chicago, but the characters in the movie realised that the world ended outside the city. The simulation was simply too limited, and one of them managed to get out of the Matrix into the person who now and then "possessed" him. In the outside world, it was a future where many kinds of matrixes where run simultanously. Not much of the outside world was seen, but it seemed peacefull enough.

existenz
13-03-2008, 10:03 PM
There is a movie that I forgot the name of. It was about a Matrix based on Chicago, but the characters in the movie realised that the world ended outside the city. The simulation was simply too limited, and one of them managed to get out of the Matrix into the person who now and then "possessed" him. In the outside world, it was a future where many kinds of matrixes where run simultanously. Not much of the outside world was seen, but it seemed peacefull enough.
That'd be "The Thirteenth Floor". Cronenberg's "eXistenZ" (hence the nick ;p) is also a similar movie but far superior and recommended.

kblood
14-03-2008, 12:57 AM
That'd be "The Thirteenth Floor". Cronenberg's "eXistenZ" (hence the nick ;p) is also a similar movie but far superior and recommended.

Im not really sure that is the one. It probably is though. I just remember "The Thirteenth Floor" movie and the other one as seperate movies. I think the first one I saw was with the main character discovering the world was virtual, so not as focused on the person travelling into the virtual world. It was focused on the people in the virtual world escaping it. After escaping it, I believe they came out in a place with many such worlds running, which I dont remember is what happened in "The Thirteenth Floor". Seems a bit wierd if both movies had the virtual world set in the 30ies though, so I might be wrong, and having just seen the movie from 30 min into it or something.

eXistenZ is also good, with a nice twist pr two at the ending.

drael
14-03-2008, 09:22 AM
Science is so slow catching up!