Blowing The Lid Off Distilled Water Myths..

[thirdwave]

After drinking it for a couple weeks I can say I am actually feeling better, weather or not its just a coincidence I don't know... but I just came across this interesting page.

http://durastill.com/myths.html

[steevo]

Thanks for your comments on this subject TW, cos I am gonna get a distiller soon too so I am interested to hear what you have found out. Cheers! :D
I'm not so sure about using filters though :confused:

[thirdwave]

No probs..

It just does not makes sense to me and the more I research it the more you find out there are no Facts that state its bad for you... its all like "its possible"... "and it might".... ..blah blah...

the amount of minerals we take from water is tiny!, if you eat well it does not matter... the only risk is that the water might become too acidic... and to help this you run it through a carbon (charcoal) filter... which comes with the distiller anyway... just got to buy the filters at £1 each! (lasts for about 4 brews)

I just get the feeling its a bit of fear put out to discourage people from bettering their water intake.

[steevo]

No probs..

It just does not makes sense to me and the more I research it the more you find out there are no Facts that state its bad for you... its all like "its possible"... "and it might".... ..blah blah...

the amount of minerals we take from water is tiny!, if you eat well it does not matter... the only risk is that the water might become too acidic... and to help this you run it through a carbon (charcoal) filter... which comes with the distiller anyway... just got to buy the filters at £1 each! (lasts for about 4 brews)

I just get the feeling its a bit of fear put out to discourage people from bettering their water intake.

Where do you get the filters for a £1 ?

[montag]

After drinking it for a couple weeks I can say I am actually feeling better, weather or not its just a coincidence I don't know... but I just came across this interesting page.

http://durastill.com/myths.html
I've read that same page before, although hardly unbiased though, it's a commercial site selling distillers..

Distilled water is highly acidic and thats a fact, I've been using a distiller for over two years now and you really need to add something to it to it to make it more alkaline..

I've been adding some salts, I've also tried adding bicarb, still not sure the best way to go yet, need more investigation.

[steevo]

I've read that same page before, although hardly unbiased though, it's a commercial site selling distillers..

Distilled water is highly acidic and thats a fact, I've been using a distiller for over two years now and you really need to add something to it to it to make it more alkaline..

I've been adding some salts, I've also tried adding bicarb, still not sure the best way to go yet, need more investigation.

Have you done a test for acidity ? Does it taste acidic ?

[thirdwave]

Where do you get the filters for a £1 ?

well you could make them your self really but all distiller makers sell them....

[thirdwave]

I've read that same page before, although hardly unbiased though, it's a commercial site selling distillers..

Distilled water is highly acidic and thats a fact, I've been using a distiller for over two years now and you really need to add something to it to it to make it more alkaline..

I've been adding some salts, I've also tried adding bicarb, still not sure the best way to go yet, need more investigation.

do you not run it through charcoal filter?

it may be from a site selling distillers, but its true what it says... none of the claims are facts... its all... "potentially" and "could".... but nothing scientific...

I can understand how it can be acidic.... because its so clean... but that can be conditioned like you say...

[montag]

Have you done a test for acidity ? Does it taste acidic ?
Not personally, but this site has lots of good information..

"Another point involves alkalinity and acidity. Natural health writers generally agree that the body maintains best health when it maintains a ph leaning to the alkaline side rather than the acidic side, and yet distilled water quickly turns highly acidic, about 5.8 in an open air container."
http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water_2.htm

[montag]

do you not run it through charcoal filter?


I run it through a charcoal filter but that doesnt change the ph of the water to my knowledge but rather act as a filter for the contaminates that that come through the distilling process as a gas.

[steevo]

Not personally, but this site has lots of good information..

"Another point involves alkalinity and acidity. Natural health writers generally agree that the body maintains best health when it maintains a ph leaning to the alkaline side rather than the acidic side, and yet distilled water quickly turns highly acidic, about 5.8 in an open air container."
http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water_2.htm

I suppose we have to ask can we trust the doctors/scientists to tell us the truth ? When I get my distiller I will do some tests personally and see what happens. Nothing is EVER straight forward is it :rolleyes: I want to drink good water and it's all so much hassle. I'm busy on another project right now so dont have the time to look into distillers properly but it's great to hear your experiences so that I have some prior information before I start :)

[montag]

I suppose we have to ask can we trust the doctors/scientists to tell us the truth ? When I get my distiller I will do some tests personally and see what happens. Nothing is EVER straight forward is it :rolleyes: I want to drink good water and it's all so much hassle. I'm busy on another project right now so dont have the time to look into distillers properly but it's great to hear your experiences so that I have some prior information before I start :)
The mercola site is pretty reliable so far as alternative medical advice, so I'd probably trust that more than a commercial site selling distillers..

Here is also a thread I started a while a go on the subject that may be of help..
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19791

[thirdwave]

I would not count out there being concerns with it that need to be looked at...... But when you look at how easy it is to fill people with crap via water... then it makes sense they would not want people experimenting with it....

one thing I would have a bet one and thats drinking tap water is not better for you..

[amethyst]

My holistic health practitioner swears by his distiller and he's very knowlegable....he wouldn't drink anything else except distilled water...but he reccommends adding minerals to it, which is easy to do.

[steevo]

My holistic health practitioner swears by his distiller and he's very knowlegable....he wouldn't drink anything else except distilled water...but he reccommends adding minerals to it, which is easy to do.

What sort of minerals and what do the minerals do ?

[cleft_asunder]

No probs..

It just does not makes sense to me and the more I research it the more you find out there are no Facts that state its bad for you... its all like "its possible"... "and it might".... ..blah blah...

the amount of minerals we take from water is tiny!, if you eat well it does not matter... the only risk is that the water might become too acidic... and to help this you run it through a carbon (charcoal) filter... which comes with the distiller anyway... just got to buy the filters at £1 each! (lasts for about 4 brews)

I just get the feeling its a bit of fear put out to discourage people from bettering their water intake.

I buy distilled water for 40 cents a galon at a local place. I switched from their spring water because they added ozone to it, and it caused my skin to feel WEIRD, and I didn't feel good from it. Not to mention I didn't like the smell!

Distilled water I like, especially for tea since there is a lot of room for the chemicals, so what else can I say? If you can find some pure water, go for it. I highly recommend fresh high-up mountain streams. I've never gotten sick from a fresh mountain stream. They tell you to avoid them because the water is good for you. Nothing like mountain water!

[dangermouse]

nothing like a swig of bleach to up ur alkalinity :D

Note: This is just a joke in case u happen to be reading the forums if your after a feed of drink. (mostly for my benefit :D))

[thirdwave]

I buy distilled water for 40 cents a galon at a local place. I switched from their spring water because they added ozone to it, and it caused my skin to feel WEIRD, and I didn't feel good from it. Not to mention I didn't like the smell!

Distilled water I like, especially for tea since there is a lot of room for the chemicals, so what else can I say? If you can find some pure water, go for it. I highly recommend fresh high-up mountain streams. I've never gotten sick from a fresh mountain stream. They tell you to avoid them because the water is good for you. Nothing like mountain water!

yeah, I have just researched allot, and the main fear is three things

1, the water can be acidic so over time make you more prone to cancer...

2, the water robs your system of good minerals...

3, there are not enough minerals in the distilled water..

and the only one that has any scientific backing to it is no1!
which can be treated, and is only dangerous over long long term use.

I would say if anyone is really nervous about it, then just drink half distilled and half bottled water, as every little bit helps...

I just want H20 from water, I eat well and get plenty of good minerals.

[amethyst]

What sort of minerals and what do the minerals do ?

I think he uses liquid minerals (calcium, magnesium etc.) and either drinks it separately, or puts it in his distilled water.

[stealth]

This is probably a dumb question but why can you only top up a car battery with distilled water?:confused:

[steevo]

I think he uses liquid minerals (calcium, magnesium etc.) and either drinks it separately, or puts it in his distilled water.

I will take the risk and wont put stuff like that in my body that's for sure. It aint natural I dont reckon, they they tell us it is but they lie alot...

This is probably a dumb question but why can you only top up a car battery with distilled water?:confused:

Stealth, I found the following quote on a forum :-
The water used is de-ionised. That means that it has no reactive chemicals in it, because you do not want secondary reactions in a battery. So when in a panic put cold boiled water in.

The distilled water supposedly becomes acidic ? It probably does who know, but I will test it for my self when I get a distiller. Anyway, when we all drink these fizzy drinks like coke/pepsi do we moan about the acid in those ? I mean distilled water has gotta be less acidic than coke/pepsi ?

[stealth]

Cheers for that info steevo.:D

[amethyst]

I will take the risk and wont put stuff like that in my body that's for sure. It aint natural I dont reckon, they they tell us it is but they lie alot...



Stealth, I found the following quote on a forum :-


The distilled water supposedly becomes acidic ? It probably does who know, but I will test it for my self when I get a distiller. Anyway, when we all drink these fizzy drinks like coke/pepsi do we moan about the acid in those ? I mean distilled water has gotta be less acidic than coke/pepsi ?

Well it's just a supplement.....it's not going to harm you....we actually need more magnesium in our diets, as the average diet depletes magnesium

[steevo]

Well it's just a supplement.....it's not going to harm you....we actually need more magnesium in our diets, as the average diet depletes magnesium

Yep But we only know that cos THEY tell us. They are crooks and deceivers. But yeah we have to accept that SOME of the stuff they say MIGHT be true but I can usually tell when they are lying cos their lips move ;):D

[edit]

steevo where do you live?

[steevo]

steevo where do you live?

Where do I live ? Why ?

[amethyst]

Yep But we only know that cos THEY tell us. They are crooks and deceivers. But yeah we have to accept that SOME of the stuff they say MIGHT be true but I can usually tell when they are lying cos their lips move ;):D

aah gee, I should just stay logged in......but I never get any work done when i do! :(

Are far as "they' go....I haven't read it from "them" that we need more minerals...I've read about it and also discussed with holistic health practitioners who do not follow the "common" wisdom that doctors tell us....it's more alternative medicine.

[steevo]

steevo where do you live?

I dont live in the Hague or the Netherlands.

[thirdwave]

This is probably a dumb question but why can you only top up a car battery with distilled water?:confused:

im not sure but it must have something to do with the water not having any chemicals and metals in it...., so it does not damage the battery...

I have heard though that this water might not be suitable to drink even though distilled... not sure why, have not looked into that one...

[smashstuff]

Properly distilled water is pH 7. Not acidic.

[madthumbs]

Properly distilled water is pH 7. Not acidic.

That doesn't mean that it doesn't become acidic rapidly.

[steevo]

That doesn't mean that it doesn't become acidic rapidly.

Coke/Pepsi is acidic but I wonder if that is ok acid :confused: ? :D
Some of us REALLY need to get some litmus paper and do a controlled experiment in laboratory conditions (sort of). I havent got my distiller yet so I can't.

[steevo]

"Another point involves alkalinity and acidity. Natural health writers generally agree that the body maintains best health when it maintains a ph leaning to the alkaline side rather than the acidic side, and yet distilled water quickly turns highly acidic, about 5.8 in an open air container."
http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water_2.htm

I was taught at school (a long time ago) that acid + alkaline = salt + water

I wonder how that equation fits in with all this :confused::D

[montag]

Coke/Pepsi is acidic but I wonder if that is ok acid :confused: ? :D
Some of us REALLY need to get some litmus paper and do a controlled experiment in laboratory conditions (sort of). I havent got my distiller yet so I can't.
"Distilled water is an active absorber and when it comes into contact with air, it absorbs carbon dioxide, making it acidic. The more distilled water a person drinks, the higher the body acidity becomes."
http://www.ionmicrowater.com/distilledwater.htm

[montag]

Coke/Pepsi is acidic but I wonder if that is ok acid :confused: ? :D

I would advise against drinking either Coke or Pepsi under any circumstances..

[steevo]

I would advise against drinking either Coke or Pepsi under any circumstances..

To right.
But i wonder how the supposed acid formed by distilled water compares to coke/pepsi because if it is alot less then maybe we dont need to worry TOO much ?

[steevo]

here is a link to Ebay which shows some very cheap litmus paper so that an acid test can be done :-
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Johnson-Universal-Litmus-pH-Testing-Paper-Wine-Making_W0QQitemZ260220418019QQihZ016QQcategoryZ381 72QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[madthumbs]

I would advise against drinking either Coke or Pepsi under any circumstances..

Yes, you'd be much better off dying of dehydration.

[amethyst]

Yes, you'd be much better off dying of dehydration.

I've heard that Coke or Pepsi can take paint off a car, if left on long enough.

If this is the case, think what it does to your stomach.

[madthumbs]

I've heard that Coke or Pepsi can take paint off a car, if left on long enough.

If this is the case, think what it does to your stomach.

Did I say it was better than water? Are lemons poison because they're acidic?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAI1JAYj53k

[amethyst]

Did I say it was better than water? Are lemons poison because they're acidic?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAI1JAYj53k

Oh my comment wasn't directed to you madthumbs.

[madthumbs]

In that case,

I've heard that Coke or Pepsi can take paint off a car, if left on long enough.

If this is the case, think what it does to your stomach.

Careful, people will be selling it as a "cleanse" now. ;)

[jamesk]

That site is wrong on almost every point made.

Daily we lose between 1,5 (female) to 2,5 (male) liters of water in sweat, urine, faeces and breath. Almost all of this loss will contain minerals - taste your sweat and see for yourself. So if you keep drinking water without minerals, and secrete minerals, there will be a net loss over time.

Water distiller and reverse osmosis manufacturers say that we obtain our minerals from food, not from water. But this is not true, nature has made us such that we obtain minerals most easily from living water. That is why all natural mineral spring water is alkaline ('hot' mineral springs, though are acidic, used for skin cleaning, not drinking?).

It is quite difficult to assimilate alkaline minerals from food - milk for example is one of the richest sources of calcium, but excessive drinking of milk will lead to acidity, and very little of the calcium actually gets absorbed.





After drinking it for a couple weeks I can say I am actually feeling better, weather or not its just a coincidence I don't know... but I just came across this interesting page.

http://durastill.com/myths.html

[steevo]

That site is wrong on almost every point made.

Daily we lose between 1,5 (female) to 2,5 (male) liters of water in sweat, urine, faeces and breath. Almost all of this loss will contain minerals - taste your sweat and see for yourself. So if you keep drinking water without minerals, and secrete minerals, there will be a net loss over time.

Water distiller and reverse osmosis manufacturers say that we obtain our minerals from food, not from water. But this is not true, nature has made us such that we obtain minerals most easily from living water. That is why all natural mineral spring water is alkaline ('hot' mineral springs, though are acidic, used for skin cleaning, not drinking?).

It is quite difficult to assimilate alkaline minerals from food - milk for example is one of the richest sources of calcium, but excessive drinking of milk will lead to acidity, and very little of the calcium actually gets absorbed.

Well thanks for that info but I will take my chances. Gonna get a distiller asap.

This is no word of a lie but the water from my tap last night tasted extremely chemically and not like the usual chemical taste. This wierd chemical flavour has been coming and going now in my tap water for the last 2 months and when I drink it it makes me nearly puke. I'm get worried about the water now. Something is going on.

[steevo]

im not sure but it must have something to do with the water not having any chemicals and metals in it...., so it does not damage the battery...

I have heard though that this water might not be suitable to drink even though distilled... not sure why, have not looked into that one...

TW can you give me some details of how your distiller works please. Does it have to be connected to a cold water source ?

Is it stainless steel on the inside ? Sorry if you have already answered these questions but I cant remember properly (maybe I have been drinking to much fluoridated water :D)

Also, can you put a picture up of which distiller you have. Cheers!

[montag]

Hi steevo, this is the one I bought.. http://www.juicersaustralia.com.au/genie_water_distiller.shtml

[shadowworks]

I wish it was so simple, just eat Alkaline foods and you will live for 1000 years as Aubrey De Grey would have me believe, i trust his theory, just not the path to get there.

You need many types if Acids to function correctly, just standing in the Sun light will make your body produce acid.

If you eat lots of Alkaline greens you will be munching all day long, with such low carbs you will feel hungry if your an active person but this is good and makes your body more efficient are processing food and extracting energy and nutrients from them.

IMHO Distilled water is perfectly good for you, after all rain water and glacier water is distilled water from rain.

[i_am]

Actually lemons, whilst being extremely acidic, are alkaline forming in your body. The PH balance in the food has little to do with what it does when ingested

Look it up :D

here is just one example:

http://www.pureliquidgold.com/acid-alkaline-forming-foods.htm

[i_am]

Ranked Foods: Alkaline to Acidic

Here's a chart that ranks foods from most alkaline to most acidic.

Extremely Alkaline
Lemons, Watermelon

Alkaline Forming
Cantaloupe, Cayenne Celery, Dates, Figs, Kelp, Limes, Mango, Melons, Papaya, Parsley, Seaweeds, Seedless Grapes (sweet), Watercress

Asparagus, Fruit Juices, Grapes (sweet), Kiwifruit, Passionfruit, Pears (sweet), Pineapple, Raisins, Umeboshi Plums, Vegetable Juices

Moderately Alkaline

Apples (sweet), Alfalfa Sprouts, Apricots, Avocados, Bananas (ripe), Currants, Dates, Figs (fresh), Garlic, Grapefruit, Grapes (less sweet), Guavas, Herbs (leafy green), Lettuce (leafy green), Nectarine, Peaches (sweet), Pears (less sweet), Peas (fresh, sweet), Pumpkin (sweet), Sea Salt (vegetable)

Apples (sour), Beans (fresh, green), Beets, Bell Peppers, Broccoli, Cabbage, Carob, Cauliflower, Ginger (fresh), Grapes (sour), Lettuce (pale green), Oranges, Peaches (less sweet), Peas (less sweet), Potatoes (with skin), Pumpkin (less sweet), Raspberries, Strawberries, Squash, Sweet Corn (fresh), Turnip, Vinegar (apple cider)

Slightly Alkaline

Almonds, Artichokes (Jerusalem), Brussel Sprouts, Cherries, Coconut (fresh), Cucumbers, Eggplant, Honey (raw), Leeks, Mushrooms, Okra, Olives (ripe), Onions, Pickles (homemade), Radishes, Sea Salt, Spices, Tomatoes (sweet), Vinegar (sweet brown rice)

Chestnuts (dry, roasted), Egg Yolks (soft cooked), Essene Bread, Goat's Milk and Whey (raw), Mayonnaise (homemade), Olive Oil, Sesame Seeds (whole), Soy Beans (dry), Soy Cheese, Soy Milk, Sprouted Grains, Tofu, Tomatoes (less sweet), Yeast (nutritional flakes)

Neutral

Butter (fresh, unsalted), Cream (fresh, raw), Cow's Milk and Whey (raw), Margarine, Oils (except olive), Yoghurt (plain)

Moderately Acidic

Bananas (green), Barley (rye), Blueberries, Bran, Butter, Cereals (unrefined), Cheeses, Crackers (unrefined rye, rice and wheat), Cranberries, Dried Beans (mung, adzuki, pinto, kidney, garbanzo), Dry Coconut, Egg Whites, Eggs Whole (cooked hard), Fructose, Goat's Milk (homogenized), Honey (pasteurised), Ketchup, Maple Syrup (unprocessed), Milk (homogenized), Molasses (unsulferd and organic), Most Nuts, Mustard, Oats (rye, organic), Olives (pickled), Pasta (whole grain), Pastry (whole grain and honey), Plums, Popcorn (with salt and/or butter), Potatoes, Prunes, Rice (basmati and brown), Seeds (pumpkin, sunflower), Soy Sauce, Wheat Bread (sprouted organic)

Extremely Acidic

Artificial Sweeteners, Beef, Beer, Breads, Brown Sugar, Carbonated Soft Drinks, Cereals (refined), Chocolate, Cigarettes and Tobacco, Coffee, Cream of Wheat (unrefined), Custard (with white sugar), Deer, Drugs, Fish, Flour (white wheat), Fruit Juices with Sugar, Jams, Jellies, Lamb, Liquor, Maple Syrup (processed), Molasses (sulphured), Pasta (white), Pastries and Cakes from White Flour, Pickles (commercial), Pork, Poultry, Seafood, Sugar (white), Table Salt (refined and iodised), Tea (black), White Bread, White Vinegar (processed), Whole Wheat Foods, Wine, Yoghurt (sweetened)

[madthumbs]

@i_am

Are you incapable of referencing?

[montag]

I wish it was so simple, just eat Alkaline foods and you will live for 1000 years as Aubrey De Grey would have me believe, i trust his theory, just not the path to get there.

You need many types if Acids to function correctly, just standing in the Sun light will make your body produce acid.

If you eat lots of Alkaline greens you will be munching all day long, with such low carbs you will feel hungry if your an active person but this is good and makes your body more efficient are processing food and extracting energy and nutrients from them.

IMHO Distilled water is perfectly good for you, after all rain water and glacier water is distilled water from rain.
I'm not sure anyone is saying avoid all acids, I believe the best balance is 70% alkaline, 30% acid. Acidic foods though are the most satisfying to eat though(chocolates, beer, junk food etc..) whereas alkaline foods are generally the least satisfying(raw vegetables etc..) so we tend to run our bodies more acidic than what is good for us..

Think of your body as a big battery, to get the optimum performance from it(energy) we need to have the correct mixture of acid and alkaline..

[jamesk]

This page is a detailed examination of Body pH - Acid/Alkaline balance, alkaline diet and alkaline water:

http://detoxifynow.com/body_ph.html

Glacier water and rain water is not like distilled water. Distilled water does not form clusters, rain water does.

Glacier water has identical properties to ionized alkaline water, it is totally different then distilled water. These are some of the differences:
1. Distilled water is Acidic, Ionized water is Alkaline
2. Distilled water does effectively hydrate the body, Ionized water is extremely hydrating
3. Distilled water leaches minerals from the body, Ionized provides minerals to the body
4. Distilled water does not provide oxygen to the body, Ionized water does
5. Distilled water does no scavenge free radicals, Ionized water does scavenge free radicals
6. Distilled water encourages oxidation (rotting, cellular aging), Ionized water reduces Oxidation
7. Distilled Water has a positive OPR, which is an Oxidant, Ionized Water has a negative ORP, which is an Anti-Oxidant

So Distilled water is the exact opposite of ionized water and distilled water in every regard. Fish and plankton die in distilled water.


I wish it was so simple, just eat Alkaline foods and you will live for 1000 years as Aubrey De Grey would have me believe, i trust his theory, just not the path to get there.

You need many types if Acids to function correctly, just standing in the Sun light will make your body produce acid.

If you eat lots of Alkaline greens you will be munching all day long, with such low carbs you will feel hungry if your an active person but this is good and makes your body more efficient are processing food and extracting energy and nutrients from them.

IMHO Distilled water is perfectly good for you, after all rain water and glacier water is distilled water from rain.

[i_am]

@i_am

Are you incapable of referencing?

No and do but this is something I had on my computer. I am not giving you access to that.

Pardon me for thinking it might be of interest to people.

Are you capable of being nice?

[montag]

This page is a detailed examination of Body pH - Acid/Alkaline balance, alkaline diet and alkaline water:

http://detoxifynow.com/body_ph.html

Glacier water and rain water is not like distilled water. Distilled water does not form clusters, rain water does.

Glacier water has identical properties to ionized alkaline water, it is totally different then distilled water. These are some of the differences:
1. Distilled water is Acidic, Ionized water is Alkaline
2. Distilled water does effectively hydrate the body, Ionized water is extremely hydrating
3. Distilled water leaches minerals from the body, Ionized provides minerals to the body
4. Distilled water does not provide oxygen to the body, Ionized water does
5. Distilled water does no scavenge free radicals, Ionized water does scavenge free radicals
6. Distilled water encourages oxidation (rotting, cellular aging), Ionized water reduces Oxidation
7. Distilled Water has a positive OPR, which is an Oxidant, Ionized Water has a negative ORP, which is an Anti-Oxidant

So Distilled water is the exact opposite of ionized water and distilled water in every regard. Fish and plankton die in distilled water.
What would you suggest as an additive to distilled water to make it more alkaline, also is it possible to ionize it?

[jamesk]

You can add alkaline drops (Sang Whang pioneered these) to distilled water to 'alkalize' it - this will give you alkaline minerals, but this is not ideal. Such 'alkaline' water is better then 'acidic' distilled water, but there is much more to life enhancing water then just the pH/mineral content.

Distilled water won't ionize because it doesn't have any minerals in it. Its the minerals in the water that ionize, the H2O molecules are pretty inert.

You could add alkaline drops/minerals to distilled water, then pass that through an ionizer - but why don't you just dump your distiller?



What would you suggest as an additive to distilled water to make it more alkaline, also is it possible to ionize it?

[montag]

but why don't you just dump your distiller?
I don't like te tap water because of the fluoride and chlorine in it and buying my water isn't economical as there are five of us in my family.

[jamesk]

Only a very small percentage of UK tap water is fluoridated. All UK tap water is chlorinated, but that is easily removed with a good charcoal filter - you don't need a distiller to do that.

A 0.1 micron charcoal filter I believe filters out some 99% of toxins in water. You can also get 0.01 micron filters, which is the same level of filtration as kidney dialysis machines.

Also, apparently we take in more chlorine from showers/baths then we do from drinking tap water - your distiller won't help there, unless you you use distilled water for your bath!


I don't like te tap water because of the fluoride and chlorine in it and buying my water isn't economical as there are five of us in my family.

[montag]

Only a very small percentage of UK tap water is fluoridated.
I'm in Aussie, the water here is definitly fluoridated..

[steevo]

Only a very small percentage of UK tap water is fluoridated. All UK tap water is chlorinated, but that is easily removed with a good charcoal filter - you don't need a distiller to do that.

A 0.1 micron charcoal filter I believe filters out some 99% of toxins in water. You can also get 0.01 micron filters, which is the same level of filtration as kidney dialysis machines.

Also, apparently we take in more chlorine from showers/baths then we do from drinking tap water - your distiller won't help there, unless you you use distilled water for your bath!

It's gonna be 100% floridated soon in the UK. Filters dont get rid of flouride. So a distiller is the only way.

I would rather gamble with distilled water than drink flouridated water which is a dead cert IMO.

Getting a shower is not as dangerous as drinking flouridated water because the skin acts as a barrier cos that's it's job. If you ingest water then your insides absorbs it into your body. If you breath in the steam from a shower, the amount that you ingest in no way anywhere near the same as the amount that you drink.

I read stuff on the net that alkaline is bad for you too so what is right ? The only way to know is for you to test it out for yourself, that is how the body works. The body will tell you if distilled water is bad for you, just like it will for any other foods, we gotta learn to start trusting ourselves and stop looking to SO CALLED scientists for all the answers. They do NOT have our interests at heart.

[jamesk]

Yes - seems that 2/3 of Australians get fluoride medication to keep them dumbed down!

Well then you should campaign like mad to stop it - the Government does not have the right to poison its citizens - take them to court. There are probably economic/corruption reasons for this - most fluoride added to water is Fluorosilicic acid, a very toxic by product of making fertilizers and such things (if the Govt lets the companies add it to water, it saves them tons of money, so you get lobbies, bribes and so on).

If I lived there, I would still use my water ionizer rather then a distiller. It removes a fair amount of the fluoride, and I believe converts much of the remaining into a less harmful form. What's left probably won't do you that much harm.

The benefits of ionized water far outweigh the harms from a small amount of fluoride.

Fluoride is not the only toxic substance you know - there are tons of other things in our food, many much more toxic then fluoride, they exist even in organic grown soils and the air. You can't stop them getting into your body. Even if you managed, and consumed perfect, toxin free food, your own body manufactures toxins as waste products of metabolism. Many of these are much more harmful then fluoride!

That's why I detox regularly to remove the poisons - I've just finished another 7 day water fast, and I can feel the toxins rebuilding in my body. Its an ongoing process - you detox, then re-tox - then repeat the cycle!





I'm in Aussie, the water here is definitly fluoridated..

[jamesk]

Not true - apparently we actually absorb more toxins from showers/baths then from drinking water. We don't drink that much water and the digestive system protects the body.

With trans dermal delivery you by pass this and the toxins go direct into the blood stream.

For example a nicotine patch is much more effective then if you were to eat the nicotine - you'd probably need to eat 100's times more to get the same effect. Also, inhalation of chlorine fumes in a confined space like a shower is more harmful then drinking - we don't drink that much, and the digestive process protects and converts much of the toxic substances to less toxic ones.

Yes, the body, taste will tell if something is good for you or not. People who drink ionized water drink 2-3 times more water then they used to, some like me drink over 4 litres a day and feel better for it.

Where did you read that alkaline (diet/water) is bad for you?



Getting a shower is not as dangerous as drinking flouridated water because the skin acts as a barrier cos that's it's job. If you ingest water then your insides absorbs it into your body. If you breath in the steam from a shower, the amount that you ingest in no way anywhere near the same as the amount that you drink.

I read stuff on the net that alkaline is bad for you too so what is right ? The only way to know is for you to test it out for yourself, that is how the body works. The body will tell you if distilled water is bad for you, just like it will for any other foods, we gotta learn to start trusting ourselves and stop looking to SO CALLED scientists for all the answers. They do NOT have our interests at heart.

[steevo]

Not true - apparently we actually absorb more toxins from showers/baths then from drinking water. We don't drink that much water and the digestive system protects the body.

With trans dermal delivery you by pass this and the toxins go direct into the blood stream.

For example a nicotine patch is much more effective then if you were to eat the nicotine - you'd probably need to eat 100's times more to get the same effect. Also, inhalation of chlorine fumes in a confined space like a shower is more harmful then drinking - we don't drink that much, and the digestive process protects and converts much of the toxic substances to less toxic ones.

Yes, the body, taste will tell if something is good for you or not. People who drink ionized water drink 2-3 times more water then they used to, some like me drink over 4 litres a day and feel better for it.

Where did you read that alkaline (diet/water) is bad for you?

Well I am going out in a minute so dont have time to find the link but will check again when I am home. Where did you get the info that you got ? I mean, you got it from the "scientists" who constantly try to create silent weapons against us.

[madthumbs]

If I was selling shower or bathwater filters, what would I come up with to sell more?

[budda_i_am_awake]

This is a fantastic video that explains loads about water... however it seems to be selling distilled water so its a bit biast... But its still a good video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bm98clqLhA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zns95F8JIo

Also there is this one from a doctot who claimes he has been drinking distilled water for 35 years...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzC6GOrHAYc

I have not found much on adding minerals back to water that you need...

[budda_i_am_awake]

This is a fantastic video that explains loads about water... however it seems to be selling distilled water so its a bit biast... But its still a good video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bm98clqLhA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zns95F8JIo

Also there is this one from a doctot who claimes he has been drinking distilled water for 35 years...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzC6GOrHAYc

I have not found much on adding minerals back to water that you need...

I Think the best thing to do is buy organic sea salt and add it like cornwalls sea salt - That is organic. You add the salt to the water then mix it up you get all your minerals you would have got through natural process aswel... and you also remove all the other shite... think thats pretty much the best plan. Am looking in to how much salt would be best to add... at a guess am going to say about 1/5 of teaspoon for every pint and about 1/4 for every liter... thats a guess though... to be honest - so you wont ever get close to the max salt intake you would have to drink 4 to 5 liters. Plus organic salt isnt that bad for you. You actually need it.

[budda_i_am_awake]

I Think the best thing to do is buy organic sea salt and add it like cornwalls sea salt - That is organic. You add the salt to the water then mix it up you get all your minerals you would have got through natural process aswel... and you also remove all the other shite... think thats pretty much the best plan. Am looking in to how much salt would be best to add... at a guess am going to say about 1/5 of teaspoon for every pint and about 1/4 for every liter... thats a guess though... to be honest - so you wont ever get close to the max salt intake you would have to drink 4 to 5 liters. Plus organic salt isnt that bad for you. You actually need it.


Found a great guy talking about water and what to do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIMKobg9V1E

[yourbodyisall]

On the topic of the water being to acidic, you could get some orgonite. I put my water container on a charging plate (plate made of orgonite) and that makes it taste soooo smooth and refreshing. Here's a test that shows it changing the pH of water: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev6z84xet6o

I do sell orgonite, if you need some. I included the video to show that I'm not just trying to sell my stuff, I thinks its best if you can make your own anyway :)

As for absorbing it through the shower, I'd heard that and it makes sense, but I never actually researched it. I think I read it on a site selling shower water filters of course :p

[trappedinameatsuit]

Try drinking water where I live, in a house built in the 1800's. Water pipes have never been replaced, I can tell by the extremely metallic taste, old ass metal pipes. I'd hate to see what they look like on the inside, probably all corroded with gunk on the walls of them.

[budda_i_am_awake]

Found a great guy talking about water and what to do: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIMKobg9V1E

I have to admit if you don't re-add minerals to the water it could be dangerous to you... not badly probable not even at all if you get plenty of minerals at the same time as drinking it... how ever it makes more sense to make the water more like it was natrually. Also if storing it don't have it in a seeled container... even tap water collects bactera in the air... and so on... But this water will collect more as its pure.

So far the best solution I have found is distilling water adding salt... SHAKING THE WATER, NOT STURING WITH METAL! VERY IMPORTANT! An You have re-mineriliesd water this is all that happens in nature water gets salt and minerals off rocks by crashing down the rocks... and going through the soil if you do this all your doing is recreating the natural process. An therefor in my eyes this is the safest water you can have. You do the rain water bit with the distiller re-add salt (not table salt) Organic sea salt. An then shake it for a while. An Walla. This to me makes the most sense as its just like nature. But with out the rocks... Some people have said about putting rocks in it to... am pretty sure this would work but I don't know what kind of rocks and how to do this.

This site says:
http://curezone.com/foods/watercure.asp

Drink 1/2 your body weight of water in ounces, daily. Example 180 lb = 90 oz. of water daily. Divide that into 8 or 10 oz. glasses and that's how many glasses you will need to drink, daily. Use 1/4 tsp. of salt for every quart of water you drink. Use salt liberally with food. As long as you drink the water, you can use the salt. Avoid caffeinated or alcoholic drinks. These are diuretics and will dehydrate you. Every 6 oz. of caffeine or alcohol requires an additional 10 to 12 oz. of water to re-hydrate you.

Oh and a quart is 2 pints.

I haven't really found any really strong evidence supporting that distilled water is bad or good... how ever the guy above said that he distilled water and added salt to it and shaked it... making h3o... An hes 70 and looks 30- 40 so you know I think thats pretty evident in its self...

[budda_i_am_awake]

On the topic of the water being to acidic, you could get some orgonite. I put my water container on a charging plate (plate made of orgonite) and that makes it taste soooo smooth and refreshing. Here's a test that shows it changing the pH of water: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ev6z84xet6o

I do sell orgonite, if you need some. I included the video to show that I'm not just trying to sell my stuff, I thinks its best if you can make your own anyway :)

As for absorbing it through the shower, I'd heard that and it makes sense, but I never actually researched it. I think I read it on a site selling shower water filters of course :p

I get on scales before a shower... and then after and I have droped 2 pounds... the steam realises toxins in my body... so if I was absorbing lots of water... surely I would go up two pounds... An this is with long wet hair too... so that might way a bit more too... I personally think that you don't absorbe much water other then through your mouth.

Infact sometimes after a long shower I feel dehydrates... I don't think thats a sign of absorbing lots of water... do you? An take a 20min shower see if after you feel like you have absorbed lots of water or if you feel dehydrated. Specially if its warm water!

[man with no name]

Been reading this post from the beginning. There a lot of different opinions.
One guy even sells the idea that fluoride isn't that dangerous.
I heard most of the UK is not fluoridated.
Distilled waters bad cause it strips body if minerals.
Distilled water is acidic and can cause cancer.
Ionised water is better than distilled.
I absorb water though my skin when I shower.

The list goes on. Guys do your research. Don't just pull a few articles of people selling products off the web and repeat and relay them as truth. If you want to be useful to health. Report your experiences by all means but don't be biased just because you spent £150 on fresh air dolphin water water magicifier.
just to set some things straight.

Fluoride is bad in any amount and should be avoided where ever possible.
It's every where now. So limiting it is best you can do.
There are enough minerals in in vegetables to keep you functioning well not to mention other foods. Anything but tap water is better. When questioning whether London's water was fluoridated I found the statement that although no fluoride is added. Fluoride exists in the local reservoirs and because the treatment of water in this country does not remove pesticides, hormones, and fluoride, tap water can be found to have higher than recommended
levels. DON"T DRINK IT! That was for my area in north London. I'd rather coke if that's all there was. At least I could burn the sugar. What could i do with the rubbish in tap water. So no careful wording of the question gives a misleading answer. No fluoride is not added to tap water at the treatment plant.but it is there.
They just put it into the water before it gets to the plant.

[evenflow]

Im thinking of getting this.


STAINLESS STEEL GRAVITY WATER FILTER 10 LTR - 4 Element
British Berkefeld c/w 4 ATC Super Sterasyl Elements




http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STAINLESS-STEEL-GRAVITY-WATER-FILTER-10-LTR-4-Element-/230375221967?pt=UK_HGKitchen_SmallApp_RL&hash=item35a36eeacf

Anyone else got one? And if so are they any good ?

[steevo]

Im thinking of getting this.


STAINLESS STEEL GRAVITY WATER FILTER 10 LTR - 4 Element
British Berkefeld c/w 4 ATC Super Sterasyl Elements




http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STAINLESS-STEEL-GRAVITY-WATER-FILTER-10-LTR-4-Element-/230375221967?pt=UK_HGKitchen_SmallApp_RL&hash=item35a36eeacf

Anyone else got one? And if so are they any good ?


I've got a similar one. Yes they are good, the water tastes better now. To me the tap water always tasted of chemicals, it got so bad that I couldnt drink it anymore, but the water filterer took care of that :)

[man with no name]

Im thinking of getting this.


STAINLESS STEEL GRAVITY WATER FILTER 10 LTR - 4 Element
British Berkefeld c/w 4 ATC Super Sterasyl Elements




http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STAINLESS-STEEL-GRAVITY-WATER-FILTER-10-LTR-4-Element-/230375221967?pt=UK_HGKitchen_SmallApp_RL&hash=item35a36eeacf

Anyone else got one? And if so are they any good ?

Get yourself a Brita filter. Does the same thing.
Sounds like your already consuming fluoride.

[evenflow]

Get yourself a Brita filter. Does the same thing.
Sounds like your already consuming fluoride.

Ive already got a Brita filter. I want something shiny :D

[theantisystem]

Hey all ive just started drinking distilled water after doing research into flouride and deciding I NEED to get it out of my diet, not impressed with chlorides that are added to kill germs either. Im just wondering how long have people round here been drinking distilled water and what are your experiences? I would probably rather drink fresh rainwater but its not an option at the moment. Has there been any research into the long term drinking of distilled water? As for the 'washing yourself in flouridated water is worse than drinking it' argument i cant see how it can be worse than ingesting a substance continually, that is just my personal opinion on it however. Cheers:)

[man with no name]

Hey all ive just started drinking distilled water after doing research into flouride and deciding I NEED to get it out of my diet, not impressed with chlorides that are added to kill germs either. Im just wondering how long have people round here been drinking distilled water and what are your experiences? I would probably rather drink fresh rainwater but its not an option at the moment. Has there been any research into the long term drinking of distilled water? As for the 'washing yourself in flouridated water is worse than drinking it' argument i cant see how it can be worse than ingesting a substance continually, that is just my personal opinion on it however. Cheers:)Be careful with un filtered rain water. It's formed around particles that float in the air. That used to be dust but now who knows. most rubbish in rainwater can be removed with activated carbon.
Fluoride absorbs into the blood stream sublingually (under the tongue) as for the skin I've never heard of that. I'd worry more about sodium laureth sulfate on your skin( which can be found in toothpaste ) rather than fluoride. But I'd have to do some research to be sure, I have one kidney and I drink distilled water. So If I disappear ask more questions but I'll let you know if I'm ill. Water is the main compound found in your body. Let it be pure. but do read the threads there's and interesting debate on ionised water and DS water. I don't feel good about deionizes water personally and it doesn't remove bacteria either. Your call. Good luck