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eternal_spirit
12-03-2008, 12:42 PM
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To all Worshipful Masters & Brethren of Hamilton District "A":
As you are quite likely aware, the Grand Master, M.W. Bro. Allan J. Petrisor has identified that one of his chief objectives will be to provide a Child Identification Program, known as MasoniCHIP Ontario . This program providesessential information to allow identification of a child by law enforcement agencies, in a very timely manner, if a child does go missing. The first couple of hours of the search are the most critical, and with ready access to pertinent information, there is the greatest opportunity for a successful recovery.
The program is to be provided by Masonic Volunteers (you and I) at events where caring parents and children attend, such as Harvest Fests and Fall Fairs. The parents bring their children to our local Clinic, fill out the basic information and waiver form for each child. They are then directed to a volunteer, who will enter the basic information on a laptop, especially designed with software for only the MasoniCHIP program. The collection of Finger prints, still photo, a video complete with audio are burnt to a CD and given to the parents for their retention. In addition a Wafer imprint of their teeth is taken and placed in the MasoniCHIP Identification Kit. Incidentally, the Wafer will also provide for DNA Information. In consideration of privacy aspects, only the waiver form will be retained by the MasoniCHIP program as the computer automatically deletes all information before processing the next child’s information. To date 2 Clinics have been successfully provided under the auspices of the Grand Lodge Public Awareness Committee, the Program Director for the MasoniCHIP Ontario program, is R.W. Bro. Ray Dobbs.
In the Hamilton Masonic District A, Our DDGM R.W. Bro. Zavar Byramjee is actively supporting this Child Identification Program. He has appointed R.W. Bro. Ivan Elliot as the District Chair, to arrange clinics throughout our District for this worthwhile cause. A clinic has been scheduled at the Milton Fall Fair on Saturday September 22nd 9 am to 4 pm and Sunday. September 23rd 10 am to 4.30 pm . Volunteers are being requested from all District A Lodges, both for Data Input and other aspects of administering this valuable program. Pre training of Volunteers will be provided. If you find that you do not have time available but wish to donate, it should be to the Masonic Foundation of Ontario, quoting Project 2552. This will aid in the purchase of additional laptop systems thus expanding this worthwhile program, after all our slogan is “Masons Helping You Protect the Ones You Love”. A tax receipt will be provided.
Sincerely and Fraternally
D J Ivan Elliot (ddgm06@hamiltondistrictamasons.org)
District A Chair of MasoniCHIP Ontario
and Grand Lodge Committee Member of MasoniCHIP Ontario .
519 824 1266. ATTACHMENTS:
MasoniCHIP Flyer (http://hamiltondistrictamasons.org/MasoniCHIP.pdf) UPCOMING CLINICS:
September 22, 2007 - 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM - Milton Fall Fair
September 23, 2007 - 10:00 AM to 4:30 PM - Milton Fall Fairhttp://hamiltondistrictamasons.org/masonichip.htm
antiem
12-03-2008, 01:02 PM
I still cannot believe that the public accepts this OBVIOUS power-to-the-few! MASONIchip. Incredible!
manchurian_candidate
12-03-2008, 01:03 PM
http://hamiltondistrictamasons.org/masoni1.jpg
To all Worshipful Masters & Brethren of Hamilton District "A":
As you are quite likely aware, the Grand Master, M.W. Bro. Allan J. Petrisor has identified that one of his chief objectives will be to provide a Child Identification Program, known as MasoniCHIP Ontario . This program providesessential information to allow identification of a child by law enforcement agencies, in a very timely manner, if a child does go missing. The first couple of hours of the search are the most critical, and with ready access to pertinent information, there is the greatest opportunity for a successful recovery.
The program is to be provided by Masonic Volunteers (you and I) at events where caring parents and children attend, such as Harvest Fests and Fall Fairs. The parents bring their children to our local Clinic, fill out the basic information and waiver form for each child. They are then directed to a volunteer, who will enter the basic information on a laptop, especially designed with software for only the MasoniCHIP program. The collection of Finger prints, still photo, a video complete with audio are burnt to a CD and given to the parents for their retention. In addition a Wafer imprint of their teeth is taken and placed in the MasoniCHIP Identification Kit. Incidentally, the Wafer will also provide for DNA Information. In consideration of privacy aspects, only the waiver form will be retained by the MasoniCHIP program as the computer automatically deletes all information before processing the next child’s information. To date 2 Clinics have been successfully provided under the auspices of the Grand Lodge Public Awareness Committee, the Program Director for the MasoniCHIP Ontario program, is R.W. Bro. Ray Dobbs.
In the Hamilton Masonic District A, Our DDGM R.W. Bro. Zavar Byramjee is actively supporting this Child Identification Program. He has appointed R.W. Bro. Ivan Elliot as the District Chair, to arrange clinics throughout our District for this worthwhile cause. A clinic has been scheduled at the Milton Fall Fair on Saturday September 22nd 9 am to 4 pm and Sunday. September 23rd 10 am to 4.30 pm . Volunteers are being requested from all District A Lodges, both for Data Input and other aspects of administering this valuable program. Pre training of Volunteers will be provided. If you find that you do not have time available but wish to donate, it should be to the Masonic Foundation of Ontario, quoting Project 2552. This will aid in the purchase of additional laptop systems thus expanding this worthwhile program, after all our slogan is “Masons Helping You Protect the Ones You Love”. A tax receipt will be provided.
Sincerely and Fraternally
D J Ivan Elliot (ddgm06@hamiltondistrictamasons.org)
District A Chair of MasoniCHIP Ontario
and Grand Lodge Committee Member of MasoniCHIP Ontario .
519 824 1266. ATTACHMENTS:
MasoniCHIP Flyer (http://hamiltondistrictamasons.org/MasoniCHIP.pdf) UPCOMING CLINICS:
September 22, 2007 - 9:00 AM to 4:00 PM - Milton Fall Fair
September 23, 2007 - 10:00 AM to 4:30 PM - Milton Fall Fairhttp://hamiltondistrictamasons.org/masonichip.htm
:eek::eek::eek: I dont know what to say to that
eternal_spirit
12-03-2008, 01:57 PM
:eek::eek::eek: I dont know what to say to that
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It is a true story, the site is an offical Masonic one.
It's a stepping stone techique, which is how say a farmer treats sheep/cattle to gain their trust...Feeds them until he can hand feed them if he wanted too. Then one day bam off to the slaughter house.
The Masonichip will be proven to be flawed as in not protective enough. In the UK a different company... they have trials where a micro-chip can be inserted into a child's school clothing, when they enter class, the chip is read by a chip reader, this shows where the children are at what ever time of day.
Now think how easy it would be for a child playing truant to get another child to hide say school blaszer ( with micro-chip inserted in to their bag )
Or a child abducter, could easily discard the micro-chipped piece of clothing. All these flaws in design are there on purpouse. So, the next step will be a micro-chip inserted into the child's body.
They'll market it this as the only safe way to keep check on a child's location.
eternal_spirit
12-03-2008, 02:02 PM
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Another official masonic site promoting the Masonichip this one's in Australia.
http://www.ashlarlodge610.ca/trestleboard.php
thetonic
12-03-2008, 04:56 PM
Eternal - Would you please post this in the Secret Societies forum so that all these idiot Freemasons can see what a buch of suckers they really are ... Unbelievable... Fucking mason idiots
eternal_spirit
12-03-2008, 05:43 PM
Eternal - Would you please post this in the Secret Societies forum so that all these idiot Freemasons can see what a buch of suckers they really are ... Unbelievable... Fucking mason idiots
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Done!
citroen999
12-03-2008, 07:05 PM
as a father i can understand the fear angle and wanting some sort of tracking sytem for kids, i for one would be up for some sort of tracker but here is the big point, it can only be monitored by the parents.
Cars have had trackers for years and have used a central hq to monitor the whereabouts of the car. The central HQ cant work with kids, its too intrusive.
If a product that was akin to gps and was external and could only be monitored by the parents only then maybe it would be half the answer.
I know kids have rights to privacy but also they have rights to safety too.
Dont shoot me down in flames i dont want the rfid chip for by any means.
chestnutlodge
13-03-2008, 01:37 PM
CITROEN999 - A balanced view but if you feel that a central monitoring station is too intrusive, would the children wish their parents to be able to know where they are all the time. Perhaps mor intrusive.
THETONIC - That is a very sweeping statement as you consider all masons to be suckers and idiots. When one looks from the reverse then those who spout anti-masonic rhetoric may also be viewed as suckers and idiots. Name calling and entrenchmant does not constitute debate just an arguement.
I would be interested to know how you would possibly put in place a system which is non intrusive which will allow our children to feel safer in their environment and help the authorities to detect and solve crimes?
21_12_2012
13-03-2008, 04:34 PM
as a father i can understand the fear angle and wanting some sort of tracking sytem for kids, i for one would be up for some sort of tracker but here is the big point, it can only be monitored by the parents.
The 'fear angle' you speak of, is the Illusion of fear which has been
sold to the public by the media, with cases such as Madeline Mcann being
continually hammered into people's brains, to make their 'chipping' agenda
acceptable.
Realistically, how many people/families do you know of who have actual
first-hand experience of abduction ?
In my opinion, children are as safe/unsafe these days as they ever have been.
(abduction-wise)
Yet the 'illusion' continually hammered into us, makes people believe
otherwise.
Do people really think that a chip in a child will stop attrocities from happening to that child ?
Abductors/abusers could do anything to that child before the parents even
realise the child is missing.
Also, if chips are implanted just under the skin, it would be easy for an
abductor to remove it before the child is even noticed missing.
If the 'powers that be' want to abduct a child, chips would be useless then
too. Just look at the CCTV example of when Diana was murdered in the
tunnel, and 'conveniently' (but pourposely) the cameras weren't working that
night....(even though a speeding motorist got fined minutes after the crash).
The same could be done with chips...accidentally not working when evidence
is required.
But, as long as people keep buying the illusion of fear being sold every day,
then chips will become a welcome reality for them.
beldazar
13-03-2008, 05:13 PM
well put 21 12 2012, looks like chestnut has LOADS to learn!
thetonic
13-03-2008, 05:33 PM
CITROEN999 - A balanced view but if you feel that a central monitoring station is too intrusive, would the children wish their parents to be able to know where they are all the time. Perhaps mor intrusive.
THETONIC - That is a very sweeping statement as you consider all masons to be suckers and idiots. When one looks from the reverse then those who spout anti-masonic rhetoric may also be viewed as suckers and idiots. Name calling and entrenchmant does not constitute debate just an arguement.
I would be interested to know how you would possibly put in place a system which is non intrusive which will allow our children to feel safer in their environment and help the authorities to detect and solve crimes?
Im not here to debate you , or even ask you questions, i have taken what i want from feeemasonry already...
I can tell by your response that you are deadlocked in a state of FEAR.. You are not FREE my friend , your mind has been co opted! Since when did tracking your child night and day become a concern to people anyway? Not until recent brainwashing sessions which you have apparently fell for.. Children are only scared because parents / teachers / media make them scared for their own safety.. Pretty soon children will no longer even play outside for FEAR of something or another
I spout anti masonic rhetoric and will continue to do so because not a single one of you has proven your worth to me, you are all usefull idiots of the evil... time will tell...
beldazar
13-03-2008, 05:57 PM
Again, well put thetonic, as much as I was disgusted at the freemason bashing that has been going on, I am beginning to see why this has occurred. Obviously I have not been on this forum long enough to see that you have had your fair share of masons coming on here trying to defend their long-held beliefs and failing miserably. Nothing is being gained trying to wake up these people, they remind me of kids grappling around shouting, "I cant see, I cant see" whilst wearing a blindfold! TAKE THE BLOODY THING OFF!
thetonic
13-03-2008, 06:23 PM
Again, well put thetonic, as much as I was disgusted at the freemason bashing that has been going on, I am beginning to see why this has occurred. Obviously I have not been on this forum long enough to see that you have had your fair share of masons coming on here trying to defend their long-held beliefs and failing miserably. Nothing is being gained trying to wake up these people, they remind me of kids grappling around shouting, "I cant see, I cant see" whilst wearing a blindfold! TAKE THE BLOODY THING OFF!
Exactly !!! And not a single one of them has ever read any of David Ickes books ,otherwise they would realize that they are locked into the Religion program of the Matrix... Same rules , different mask!
chestnutlodge
13-03-2008, 07:24 PM
2112 - Very interesting points and I agree entirely with what you are saying. The current fear is fuelled daily by the press and we are led to believe that the world is a far more harmful place than a number of years ago. However the constant media attention on the minority of society, which have always been present, has led to the belief in them that their feelings or attitudes are legitimised. The overall effect is that children are now cosseted from the house to school and home in cars which do not need to be on the road. Children are not allowed to experience life anymore. But recently my daughter walked home from a house a mile away. The following day a girl was raped along that route. Now as a dutiful parent should I allow her to walk home again knowing what has happened and aware she knows?
You talk of the chip but the article talks about a data base of information not a chip. So are we not on this article reading more into it than meets the eye? By the way 2112 was a good Rush album.
the tonic - You said "Im not here to debate you , or even ask you questions, i have taken what i want from feeemasonry already... Please can you explain what that is for without asking questions one is closed to the possibility that they may be incorrect.
I can tell by your response that you are deadlocked in a state of FEAR.. You are not FREE my friend , your mind has been co opted! How can you tell that I am in fear, and fear of what?
Since when did tracking your child night and day become a concern to people anyway? This was in response to the post by CITROEN999.
Not until recent brainwashing sessions which you have apparently fell for.. Children are only scared because parents / teachers / media make them scared for their own safety.. Pretty soon children will no longer even play outside for FEAR of something or anotherI agree with the last sentance but I would be interested to learn of what brainwashing sessions I have recently been involved in.
Exactly !!! And not a single one of them has ever read any of David Ickes books ,otherwise they would realize that they are locked into the Religion program of the Matrix... Same rules , different mask! That is a very sweeping statement as you do not know that for a fact. May I ask have you read any books regarding freemasonry or the ritual?
I spout anti masonic rhetoric and will continue to do so because not a single one of you has proven your worth to me, you are all usefull idiots of the evil... time will tell...No freemason would try and prove their worth to you. Why should we, but please bear in mind if, lets hope that will never happen, you are ill and require treatment or help, then you may well be grateful for the masons as their donations may go to assist you.
BELDAZAR- It is strange that you say that nothing can be gained by trying to wake us up. But then tell us to take the blind fold off. If you could point us in the direction of facts not fiction and heresay then perhaps we would lose that blind fold. Incidentaly the analogy concerning the blindfold is quite funny to a mason. But I am sure as you are well researched on masonic matters you inserted that as a pun.
kweli
13-03-2008, 08:05 PM
Good find that ES, thanks for sharing.
damagedbrainn
13-03-2008, 09:09 PM
I predict that child-tracking chips will be as successful as the child-leash.
beldazar
13-03-2008, 11:08 PM
chestnut, how do YOU know the difference between facts or fiction??? Are you really so sure you have the facts? :eek:
chestnutlodge
14-03-2008, 10:07 AM
chestnut, how do YOU know the difference between facts or fiction??? Are you really so sure you have the facts? :eek:
My question was for you to point me in the direction of facts which are proven not conjecture or supposition. Do you know the difference between fact and fiction? A fact is something which is corroborated, fiction has no substance. All I keep asking is show facts that what you allege is correct. How do you ever suppose to change anyones thinking without concrete evidence?
beldazar
14-03-2008, 10:48 AM
All our information comes from someone else if you really think about it. I cannot tell fact from fiction any more than anyone else, I just use what sounds right in the moment. What I think of as fact at one time can change when something else comes along
I will use the example of the earth being flat, it seemed like fact at the time, now it has changed to being round. Again, that is presumed as being fact. How do we REALLY know? Can you be sure? Even if you can hold it in your hands and feel it is round, can you THINK that it is round. Then again, we have only got our very limited 5 senses to go on, there may be so much more beyond our sense range but how do we know?
chestnutlodge
14-03-2008, 11:28 AM
All our information comes from someone else if you really think about it. I cannot tell fact from fiction any more than anyone else, I just use what sounds right in the moment. What I think of as fact at one time can change when something else comes along
I will use the example of the earth being flat, it seemed like fact at the time, now it has changed to being round. Again, that is presumed as being fact. How do we REALLY know? Can you be sure? Even if you can hold it in your hands and feel it is round, can you THINK that it is round. Then again, we have only got our very limited 5 senses to go on, there may be so much more beyond our sense range but how do we know?
Precisely so by anybody becoming deadlocked in their views is damaging. One must always keep an open mind and review each piece of information on its merit and researched concrete evidence.
By the way we are not limited to 5 senses, if you think about it there are many more.
beldazar
14-03-2008, 11:43 AM
yes, you are right! Sometimes people find it hard to change their belief systems. I can only use myself as an example, until of late, I had a certain view of life until recently it had been shattered in two. It knocked me for six! I didnt go looking for any of this, it found me! Im not a student who wants to rebel against society, nor someone with a chip on my shoulder. It is said that the older you get, the more fixed in your ways you become. For me this has not been true, I was very closed minded, now ANYTHING is possible. All I can say, is that I dont like what is occuring in our world, I am sick to death of pathetic war games and the divide between the rich and poor getting ever wider.
You are right about the other senses too, I am working on mine, especially my intuition, which has helped me to learn what I have already.
chestnutlodge
14-03-2008, 03:44 PM
Beldazar - I am glad we can at least agree on something. As I have stated elsewhere you will be surprised that freemasons and those on this site may actually hold similar views on many of these subjects, but differ on others. The world is not divided into two camps.