Revelations of an elite family insider

[mauviene]

I don't know how many of you are familiar with this little document, but I stumbled upon it quite awhile ago and decided to bring it up amongst the array of conspiracy theories going on around here.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

Read it, share your opinions, bring up questions, or even give proof that its been refuted. I really am surprised about some of the things stated in it because they match some of the things I've came to face with while on psychedelics in the past, or in meditation more recently. Though I personally don't believe anything besides my own perception, I'd like to get various responses and see how others feel about this so called "true" insider.

[nulltid]

There have been a recent thread about this:

http://www.miljolare.no/bilder/design.ny/arrow_dark.gifIts Time People - For The Real Truth (sit Down) (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21180)

[mauviene]

There have been a recent thread about this:

http://www.miljolare.no/bilder/design.ny/arrow_dark.gifIts Time People - For The Real Truth (sit Down) (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=21180)

Ahh..well..I believe the format presented in link provided in this thread gives the reader a better version of the document. The version in that thread is scrambled and mixed up with some fake channeler who had no take on the original version and is being confused with the actual material. So, this thread will provide new readers of this document with a cleaner version to follow.

[angelmoon]

well it was certainly interesting reading , something that i will have to read again to absorb the contents in full

thanks for posting this x x

[synergy777]

http://khanverse.blogspot.com/2008/02/rothschild-illuminati-banking-weishaupt.html

great video on the nwo/rothschild.

[mauviene]

http://khanverse.blogspot.com/2008/02/rothschild-illuminati-banking-weishaupt.html

great video on the nwo/rothschild.

http://www.apfn.org/apfn/WTC_STF.htm

Heres a research paper that complements the video quite beautifully. It pretty much verifies that it is indeed the Zionists who are behind all this. And they use there ridiculous amount of wealth to allure the leaders of the country's they use and dispose of, to commit treason and further the cause of the Zionist. It is simply astounding to see what money can do to the dignity of a man. Something needs to be done before they actually establish this new world order. I think we should put aside the Illuminati guise and target the men behind it; the rich central Zionist bankers.

[revelations]

yep ...i posted the accounts of this geezer a while back, but im glad that u posted this again for those that aint see it! ;)

[kingdavid]

wow

[razed1]

i would caution ppl to not beleive everything this 'insider' is saying

hes saying that these elites are following some 'divine law'

hes trying to make themselves look like they are some superior ppl, because of the position they are in

well the only difference really i can guage is these ppl had dedicated their whole existence to supressing and murdering millions upon millions of ppl, by trying to keep the sacred knowledge out of the hands of the common folk, taking everyone off a right brained or more balanced approach, and get humans into a left brain prison

they have the ability to be brutal killers, and not feel any remorse with the victims of their actions


theres nothing divine about this behaviour, this is the behaviour of psychopaths who have inherited a legacy that only the devil would be proud of

so take it for what it is, an attempt by them to try and make themselves appear more powerful than they really are

the truth is the elites know their time is near, and someone is gonna have to pay for all these crimes sooner or later,

oh how they dread that day

[hiram_abiff]

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The...y-Insider-2005

The Above Document Is GASH

[manchurian_candidate]

yep ...i posted the accounts of this geezer a while back, but im glad that u posted this again for those that aint see it! ;)

Revelations! You returnth!!! :D

[geronimo]

i would caution ppl to not beleive everything this 'insider' is saying

hes saying that these elites are following some 'divine law'

hes trying to make themselves look like they are some superior ppl, because of the position they are in

well the only difference really i can guage is these ppl had dedicated their whole existence to supressing and murdering millions upon millions of ppl, by trying to keep the sacred knowledge out of the hands of the common folk, taking everyone off a right brained or more balanced approach, and get humans into a left brain prison

they have the ability to be brutal killers, and not feel any remorse with the victims of their actions


theres nothing divine about this behaviour, this is the behaviour of psychopaths who have inherited a legacy that only the devil would be proud of

so take it for what it is, an attempt by them to try and make themselves appear more powerful than they really are

the truth is the elites know their time is near, and someone is gonna have to pay for all these crimes sooner or later,

oh how they dread that day

I read the dialogue, and the arrogance of this guy was clearly apparent - above all, the impression that 'we know things that you don't.'

Half of it was enough truth to gain your interest, while the rest was pure deception. Isn't that how these people operate? they are really incapable of telling the truth, just look at Blair. I think he would have a heart attack if he told the truth, in fact we've just been lied to AGAIN with another fake poll telling us Blair is a popular choice for a major position in the EU. Come on. The great way to spot these people is that they just ADORE LIES, can't help it. And I can safely predict that the recent 'Bin Laden' tape 'threatening the EU' is another fake load of b****cks.

geronimo

[spiraltrance]

Found this forum (http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=109244&st=0) in which one person claims to know who the insder was :-

turns out insider is a guy called: mariano artigas, he wrote a book called the mind of the universe, its about the phyical and spiritual realm and pretty much a longer version of his post. he lives in portugal

Mariano Artigas
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Mariano Artigas (1938-2006) is a physicist, philosopher and writer. He received the Templeton Foundation Award in 1995 for his work on science and religion. He wrote The Mind of the Universe: Understanding Science and Religion and fifteen other books on science and religion.

He was a member of the European Association for the Study of Science and Theology, the Académie Internationale de Philosophie des Sciences, and the Académie Internationale de Philosophie des Sciences. He was Consultor of the Pontifical Council for the Dialogue with Non-believers.

In 2002, jointly with other professors, he created Science, Reason and Faith Reseach Group (CRYF), based in the University of Navarra where he taught. The aim of the Group is to promote interdisciplinary study of issues where science, philosophy and theology intertwine.[1]

He holds Ph.D.'s in both physics and in philosophy.

He was ordained a priest on 9 August 1964, and incardinated to the Opus Dei prelature. He was the Dean of the Ecclesiastical Faculty of Philosophy for the University of Navarre from 1988 to 1998.

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Professor Artigas had more than 150 articles published based on the relationship of science, philosophy, and theology.

His book The Mind of the Universe, Understanding Science and Religion received good reviews, among which is that of Contemporary Physics: Artigas "has raised the level of the contemporary debate on the relations between science and religion and provided a sure guide to their complexities. He seems to have read almost every book on the subject, and gives judicious and sympathetic accounts even of views he does not share. As a scientist himself, he does full justice to the value of science and to the subtleties of the scientific method."

His other well-known works in English are:

* Oracles of Science: Celebrity Scientists versus God and Religion - with Karl Giberson And Mariano Artigas (Dec 28, 2006)

* Galileo Observed: Science and the Politics of Belief - with William R. Shea (Oct 6, 2006)

* Knowing Things for Sure: Science and Truth - with Alan McCone (Jul 28, 2006)

* Negotiating Darwin: The Vatican Confronts Evolution, 1877--1902 (Medicine, Science, and Religion in Historical Context) by Mariano Artigas, Thomas F. Glick, and Rafael A. Martínez (Aug 17, 2006)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariano_Artigas


If this is right it meant he made the insider post about a year before he died.

Another interview with him.
http://www.metanexus.net/Magazine/Default.aspx?TabId=68&id=6109&SkinSrc=


Also he could be a descendant of this Jose Gervasio Artigas
José Gervasio Artigas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[kingmonkey]

This is adds to the case of "The more you read the less you know". It's just another piece of "evidence" that can't be proven one way or another and just adds to the mountain of info that keeps everyone running round in circles. I'm beginning to think most information, whether it appears to be good or bad, is part of a conspiracy to keep everyone running round like headless chickens clutching at straws. Information overload is a useful tool.

[spiraltrance]

This is adds to the case of "The more you read the less you know". It's just another piece of "evidence" that can't be proven one way or another and just adds to the mountain of info that keeps everyone running round in circles. I'm beginning to think most information, whether it appears to be good or bad, is part of a conspiracy to keep everyone running round like headless chickens clutching at straws. Information overload is a useful tool.

Very good point kingmonkey. The 'conspiracy of control' is much more profound than most people realise. Alot of people here think they are freeing themselves by involving themselves in endless debate of the NWO and rading DI books ect.

At it's deepest level the 'conspiracy' keeps people locked into the matrix prison by keeping them locked into the realm of the intellect and physical/mentle movement. It doesn't matter whether you reading David Icke or watching Fox News. Both will ultimately inprison you.

Freedom and awakening comes through stillness and silence.

[xxdinoxkarenxx]

I don't know how many of you are familiar with this little document, but I stumbled upon it quite awhile ago and decided to bring it up amongst the array of conspiracy theories going on around here.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

Read it, share your opinions, bring up questions, or even give proof that its been refuted. I really am surprised about some of the things stated in it because they match some of the things I've came to face with while on psychedelics in the past, or in meditation more recently. Though I personally don't believe anything besides my own perception, I'd like to get various responses and see how others feel about this so called "true" insider.

it toolk me two days to finish reading it all but it was worth it , it was very very intersting if youre opened minded

[lord summerisle]

I don't know how many of you are familiar with this little document, but I stumbled upon it quite awhile ago and decided to bring it up amongst the array of conspiracy theories going on around here.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

Read it, share your opinions, bring up questions, or even give proof that its been refuted. I really am surprised about some of the things stated in it because they match some of the things I've came to face with while on psychedelics in the past, or in meditation more recently. Though I personally don't believe anything besides my own perception, I'd like to get various responses and see how others feel about this so called "true" insider.


I read this last week for the first time half way through my computer made a strange noise. Like a television when you go onto a channel and its all fuzzy and you get that sound. Today i done a couple of searches on google was reading some stuff on this insider. When it happened again! Maybe its me being paranoid but its a bit wierd.

[robby]

I don't know how many of you are familiar with this little document, but I stumbled upon it quite awhile ago and decided to bring it up amongst the array of conspiracy theories going on around here.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/403303/The-Revelations-of-an-Elite-Family-Insider-2005

Read it, share your opinions, bring up questions, or even give proof that its been refuted. I really am surprised about some of the things stated in it because they match some of the things I've came to face with while on psychedelics in the past, or in meditation more recently. Though I personally don't believe anything besides my own perception, I'd like to get various responses and see how others feel about this so called "true" insider.

I guess it’s like any other info out there, depending how you feel about yourself on that day when one reads…….. one will either reject it or gain something out of it.

What I love about reading is seeing the energy behind each word and how it dances with the way you feel at the moment, the info referring to consciousness and energy… to me was extremely up lifting .. as for the history side, be it on people not really perturbed – will we every know about the truth about people including the Insider himself/her and if so how will that change my being??

I understood the concept of SERVING DIVINE and the contrast of WORSHIPPING god in other words the energy working through you (hence never depletion) as to giving your energy away! (to some thing that has been brain washed into us)

There was also a lot of confirmation on things that I knew one been visualization:
1st thought pattern vs 2nd thought pattern, allows you to understand self in the creative or sleep aspect of life.

Creative Thought:

Your 1st thought pattern is always of a high vibration; the energy behind this thought, firstly, is that it invigorates the whole cellular systems, and systematically energizes your body. The emotional state of this thought is heaven /pleasure /bliss etc!

What the mind visualizes would generally be the outcome of this thought in reality.

Quote: All reality is created by thought. Thought comes first. An experience is always secondary, it is never the other way around – that you have the experience, and then you base the thought around it. Always, your experience is a direct reflection of what you are thinking.

Should the energy of the first thought reach a certain height in frequency, then automatically the 2nd thought pattern is acknowledged. I call this thought, the “but what if” thought.

Sleep Thought:

Your 2nd thought pattern is of a low vibration (usually the opposite of the first thought pattern) the energy of this thought, generally annihilates your system, and hurt’s you in the process. The emotional state of this thought is of insecurity /panic /fear etc!

Humans generally default to the second thought!

The question you have got to ask yourself, would you acknowledge a 2nd thought pattern on purposely, to deliberately hurt your self? If NOT, then who is playing with you?

Quote: When you doubt, that doubt is a thought too, it will also create itself. When doubt occurs, it stops the expansion process because you deny the subtlety of what is coming to you.

Quote: You are a result of thought, that thought is, and that is the essences of understanding, manipulating, and moving within your world.

Yes I thought that some of the Insiders info was uplifting!!

[shridharm]

Folks,

Have studied the "Insider" aka Professor Artigas writings.

There is quite a bit of informative material in this writing.

"Insider" needs a rebuttal on Jesus and indeed his first tenet :

The point here is it is *not* an abomination to praise or worship Jesus or praise the Prophet Muhammad.

The logic behind this statement is fairly simple : your love is better spent directed at
Jesus. Loving a Laden may lead to "wastage of love".
Love thy enemy in the sense of forgiving and not carrying spirit of vengeance. Full stop.

"Insider" has a point where he says religion has core of truth that has been manipulated.

The spiritual process he tries in so many words to describe is more clear and simply put in "The Gospel of Ramana" and other writings of Ramana.

One theme of Christian faith is 'Redemption from Sin'.
One of the themes of Judaism is also 'Redemption from Sin'.
One of the themes of Islam is 'Redemption on the day of "Judgement".'
Buddhism and Hindu faiths both teach "Cleansing the soul of karmas and re-incarnation based upon Karmas".

There is a common thread in all of these - seeking Divine Grace for redemption.

For individual understanding, this boils down to working with our own character and conduct and improving on these fronts. And indeed when put to test, our character show a stronger moral foundation as a result of lessons learned.

This is simply put the common spiritual seeking of world faiths for their adherents.

There can be no atheism or an abstract "Love" entity in any of this if you would think through the lines that are "common" in the world faiths.

With love

- S

[shridharm]

Ahhhhh .... "Thought"


This poster used to be an avid follower of "Thought expert" Mr.Tesla.

There is a catch in sayings like "you are the thought", "the thought makes you" etc.

If your thinking is "consistent", "unwavering", "contains no spiritual pollutions", "clean and clear" ... your thought would count as a strength.

Otherwise not. Far better is time spent in quiet and heart-felt prayer within your own faith.

With love

- S

[logan 5]

I remember reading this a while back. I'am about half-way through it on the re-read, a lot of this I can relate to, like when he is asked " What is your interpretation of Divine Law and how can I make peace with myself? "..I really like his answer-

" Knowing yourself and where you really are, are the 2 most important issues that you should be involved with. "

I can totally dig that.

But like anything else, I have to weigh what he is saying to what I feel and believe to be true for me. He did duck a few questions and didn't elaborate on some of the big questions, but, this kind of posting is really fascinating as the guy ( or gal ) is dropping some interesting wisdom on us.

Wisdom is wisdom, even if it may be some crack-pot on the internet having fun with people. :rolleyes: