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marquesa
09-03-2008, 02:27 PM
Hello,

My name is Marquesa Laurel Windsor Gastineau, and I am the Head of the Merovingian Bloodline. I and my Spouse, Madonna Francine Windsor Gastineau, would like to invite anyone who would like to find out about us, the TOP LIZARDS IN THIS WORLD, to our website, and find out what we intend to do with the people of Earth, now that we have come back.

The website is www.danielskey.com you will find a free book download there that explains everything in great details.

Don't think that we are playing around; this is REAL; this is deadly serious. We are going to take our proper place ruling this world NOW! So, the better informed you are, the better you will adjust to the new regime.

By the way, make sure that you watch Madonna at her induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony on March 10th, tomorrow night at 8:30 p.m. PST, in New York. It will be shown LIVE on VH1 Classics.

That's all I have to say for now; if you have any questions, please feel free to email me.

Thank you,
Marquesa, your Lord

greenleaf
09-03-2008, 02:28 PM
would you agree to a radio interview?

kweli
09-03-2008, 02:36 PM
Hello,

My name is Marquesa Laurel Windsor Gastineau, and I am the Head of the Merovingian Bloodline. I and my Spouse, Madonna Francine Windsor Gastineau, would like to invite anyone who would like to find out about us, the TOP LIZARDS IN THIS WORLD, to our website, and find out what we intend to do with the people of Earth, now that we have come back.

The website is www.danielskey.com you will find a free book download there that explains everything in great details.

Don't think that we are playing around; this is REAL; this is deadly serious. We are going to take our proper place ruling this world NOW! So, the better informed you are, the better you will adjust to the new regime.

By the way, make sure that you watch Madonna at her induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony on March 10th, tomorrow night at 8:30 p.m. PST, in New York. It will be shown LIVE on VH1 Classics.

That's all I have to say for now; if you have any questions, please feel free to email me.

Thank you,
Marquesa, your Lord

And, you need to post this in every thread? What's up man?

lookfar
09-03-2008, 02:37 PM
Marquesa can you please stop spamming all the forums with the same post, this is totally unnecessary. Thank you :)

lennart
09-03-2008, 02:42 PM
fake!

You where evil as hitler....a joke like that can only come from a snake, thats true!

synergy777
09-03-2008, 03:44 PM
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=128&view=item&idx=1347

Rabbi Reveals Name of the Messiah

Shortly before he died, one of Israel's most prominent rabbis wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was opened, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah.

A few months before he died, one of the nation’s most prominent rabbis, Yitzhak Kaduri, supposedly wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was unsealed, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah.

With the biblical name of Jesus, the Rabbi and kabbalist described the Messiah using six words and hinting that the initial letters form the name of the Messiah.

The secret note said:

Concerning the letter abbreviation of the Messiah’s name, He will lift the people and prove that his word and law are valid.

Thisis I have signed in the month of mercy,
Yitzhak Kaduri

The Hebrew sentence (translated above in bold) with the hidden name of the Messiah reads: Yarim Ha’Am Veyokhiakh Shedvaro Vetorato Omdim

The initials spell the Hebrew name of Jesus, Yehoshua. Yehoshua and Yeshua are effectively the same name, derived from the same Hebrew root of the word “salvation” as documented in Zechariah 6:11 and Ezra 3:2. The same priest writes in Ezra, “Yeshua son of Yozadak” while writing in Zechariah “Yehoshua son of Yohozadak.” The priest adds the holy abbreviation of God’s name, ho, in the father’s name Yozadak and in the name Yeshua.

With one of Israel’s most prominent rabbis indicating the name of the Messiah is Yeshua, it is understandable why his last wish was to wait one year after his death before revealing what he wrote.

When the name of Yehoshua appeared in Kaduri’s message, ultra-Orthodox Jews from his Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva (seminary) in Jerusalem argued that their master did not leave the exact solution for decoding the Messiah’s name.

The revelation received scant coverage in the Israeli media. Only the Hebrew websites News First Class (Nfc) and Kaduri.net mentioned the Messiah note, insisting it was authentic. The Hebrew daily Ma'ariv ran a story on the note but described it as a forgery.

Jewish readers responded on the websites' forums with mixed feelings: “So this means Rabbi Kaduri was a Christian?” and “The Christians are dancing and celebrating,” were among the comments.

Israel Today spoke to two of Kaduri’s followers in Jerusalem who admitted that the note was authentic, but confusing for his followers as well. “We have no idea how the Rabbi got to this name of the Messiah,” one of them said.

Yet others completely deny any possibility that the note is authentic. Kaduri’s son, Rabbi David Kaduri, said that at the time the note was written (September 2005), his father’s physical condition made it impossible for him to write.


KADURI'S PORTRAYAL OF THE MESSIAH

A few months before Kaduri died at the age of 108, he surprised his followers when he told them that he met the Messiah. Kaduri gave a message in his synagogue on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, teaching how to recognize the Messiah. He also mentioned that the Messiah would appear to Israel after Ariel Sharon’s death. (The former prime minister is still in a coma after suffering a massive stroke more than a year ago.)

Other rabbis predict the same, including Rabbi Haim Cohen, kabbalist Nir Ben Artzi and the wife of Rabbi Haim Kneiveskzy.

Kaduri’s grandson, Rabbi Yosef Kaduri, said his grandfather spoke many times during his last days about the coming of the Messiah and redemption through the Messiah.

His spiritual portrayals of the Messiah—reminiscent of New Testament accounts—were published on the websites Kaduri.net and Nfc:

“It is hard for many good people in society to understand the person of the Messiah. The leadership and order of a Messiah of flesh and blood is hard to accept for many in the nation. As leader, the Messiah will not hold any office, but will be among the people and use the media to communicate. His reign will be pure and without personal or political desire. During his dominion, only righteousness and truth will reign.

“Will all believe in the Messiah right away? No, in the beginning some of us will believe in him and some not. It will be easier for non-religious people to follow the Messiah than for Orthodox people.

“The revelation of the Messiah will be fulfilled in two stages: First, he will actively confirm his position as Messiah without knowing himself that he is the Messiah. Then he will reveal himself to some Jews, not necessarily to wise Torah scholars. It can be even simple people. Only then he will reveal himself to the whole nation. The people will wonder and say: ‘What, that’s the Messiah?’ Many have known his name but have not believed that he is the Messiah.”


FAREWELL TO A 'TSADIK'

Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri was known for his photographic memory and his memorization of the Bible, the Talmud, Rashi and other Jewish writings. He knew Jewish sages and celebrities of the last century and rabbis who lived in the Holy Land and kept the faith alive before the State of Israel was born.

Kaduri was not only highly esteemed because of his age of 108. He was charismatic and wise, and chief rabbis looked up to him as a Tsadik, a righteous man or saint. He would give advice and blessings to everyone who asked. Thousands visited him to ask for counsel or healing. His followers speak of many miracles and his students say that he predicted many disasters.

When he died, more than 200,000 people joined the funeral procession on the streets of Jerusalem to pay their respects as he was taken to hisfinal resting place.

“When he comes, the Messiah will rescue Jerusalem from foreign religions that want to rule the city,” Kaduri once said. “They will not succeed for they will fight against one another.”


THE RABBI'S FOLLOWERS REACT

In an interview with Israel Today, Rabbi David Kaduri, the 80-year-old son of the late Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri, denied that his father left a note with the name Yeshua just before he died.

“It’s not his writing,” he said when we showed him a copy of the note.

During a nighttime meeting in the Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva in Jerusalem, books with the elder Kaduri’s handwriting from 80 years ago were presented to us in an attempt to prove that the Messiah note was not authentic.

When we told Rabbi Kaduri that his father’s official website (www.kaduri.net) had mentioned the Messiah note, he was shocked. “Oh no! That’s blasphemy. The people could understand that my father pointed to him [the Messiah of the Christians].”

David Kaduri confirmed, however, that in his last year, his father had talked and dreamed almost exclusively about the Messiah and his coming. “My father has met the Messiah in a vision,” he said, “and told us that he would come soon.”

Israel Today was given access to many of the rabbi's manuscripts, written in his own hand for the exclusive use of his students. Most striking were the cross-like symbols painted by Kaduri all over the pages. In the Jewish tradition, one does not use crosses. In fact, even the use of a plus sign is discouraged because it might be mistaken for a cross.

But there they were, scribbled in the rabbi's own hand. When we asked what those symbols meant, Rabbi David Kaduri said they were “signs of the angel." Pressed further about the meaning of the “signs of the angel," he said he had no idea. Rabbi David Kaduri went on to explain that only his father had had a spiritual relationship with God and had met the Messiah in his dreams.

Orthodox Jews around the Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva told Israel Today a few weeks later that the story about the secret note of Rabbi Kaduri should never have come out, and that it had damaged the name the revered old sage.

you mervos are imposters as the creator does not believe in elitism, you are the seed of evil.

i have your mervo/carlo/charles martel/charlemagne history.

synergy777
09-03-2008, 03:47 PM
king arthur

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11249&page=5

read and weep, the da vinci code was infantile, and not even great fiction, lol

synergy777
09-03-2008, 03:52 PM
Merovingian dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Merovingians (or Merovings) were a Salian Frankish dynasty that came to rule the Franks in a region largely corresponding to ancient Gaul from the mid fifth to the mid eighth century. Their politics involved frequent civil warfare between branches of the family. During the final century of the Merovingian rule, the dynasty was increasingly pushed into a ceremonial role. The Merovingian rule was ended by a palace coup in 751 when Pippin the Short formally deposed Childeric III, beginning the Carolingian monarchy.

Origins

The Merovingian dynasty owes its name to the semi-legendary Merovech, (Latinised as Meroveus or Merovius), leader of the Salian Franks, and emerges into wider history with the victories of his son Childeric I (reigned c.457 – 481) against the Visigoths, Saxons, and Alemanni. Childeric's son Clovis I went on to unite most of Gaul north of the Loire under his control around 486, when he defeated Syagrius, the Roman ruler in those parts. He won the Battle of Tolbiac against the Alemanni in 496, at which time, according to Gregory of Tours, Clovis adopted his wife's Nicene Christian faith. He subsequently went on to decisively defeat the Visigothic kingdom of Toulouse in the Battle of Vouillé in 507. After Clovis' death, his kingdom was partitioned among his four sons, and over the next century this tradition of partition would continue. Even when multiple Merovingian kings ruled, the kingdom — not unlike the late Roman Empire — was conceived of as a single entity ruled collectively by several kings (in their own realms) and a turn of events could result in the reunification of the whole kingdom under a single ruler. Leadership among the early Merovingians was probably based on mythical descent and alleged divine patronage, expressed in terms of continued military success.


Salian Franks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Salian Franks or Salii were a subgroup of the early Franks who originally had been living north of the limes in the coastal area above the Rhine in the northern Netherlands, where today there still is a region called Salland. The Merovingian kings, responsible for the conquest of Gaul were of Salian stock. From the 3rd century on the Salian Franks appear in the historical records as warlike Germanic people and pirates, and as "Laeti" (allies of the Romans). They were the first Germanic tribe from beyond the limes that settled permanently on Roman land.

The Salians fully adopted the Frankish identity and ceased to appear by their original name from the 5th century onward, when they evolved into the Franks par excellence.[1] This is long before the Ripuarian Franks were first mentioned. The Lex Ripuaria originated about 630 around Cologne and has been described as a later development of the Frankish laws known from Lex Salica. Unlike popular opinion, there was no division of Franks between Salians and Ripuarians.[2]


Carolingian dynasty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Carolingian dynasty (known variously as the Carlovingians, Carolings, or Karlings) was a Frankish noble family with its origins in the Arnulfing and Pippinid clans of the 7th century. The name "Carolingian", Medieval Latin karolingi, an altered form of an unattested Old High German *karling, kerling (meaning "descendant of Charles", cf. MHG kerlinc),[1] derives from the latinised name of Charles Martel: Carolus.[2] The family consolidated its power in the late 7th century, eventually making the offices of mayor of the palace and dux et princeps Francorum hereditary and becoming the de facto rulers of the Franks as the real powers behind the throne. By 751, the Merovingian dynasty which until then had ruled the Franks by right was deprived of this right with the consent of the Papacy and the aristocracy and a Carolingian, Pepin the Short, was crowned King of the Franks.

The greatest Carolingian monarch was Charlemagne, who was crowned Emperor by Pope Leo III at Rome in 800. His empire, ostensibly a continuation of the Roman Empire, is referred to historiographically as the Carolingian Empire.


thus mervo/salien franks from dutch heritage, about the mervo/antichrist link

http://www.watch.pair.com/priory.html

THE MEROVINGIAN DYNASTY

SATANIC BLOODLINE OF THE ANTICHRIST & FALSE PROPHET

INTRODUCTION

The following pages are selected portions of another report on this website, The False Gospel in the Stars, which is an expose of the astrological signs that will be used to validate the credentials of the Antichrist and False Prophet. Many projections concerning the identities of these personages are often disinformation calculated to deceive. Adding to the general ignorance, there is little information coming forth in the way of exposure of the Merovingian dynasty as the Satanic bloodline from which the Antichrist and False Prophet will come. Whatever lipservice is paid to this subject is usually accompanied by enough misinformation to keep the masses of Christians ignorant of the truth.

Yet the Bible presents specific evidence concerning the identities of the Antichrist and False Prophet, the Mark of the Beast, Mystery Babylon the Great and other entities that will be imperative for God’s elect to recognize during the Tribulation Period. For instance, Revelation 13:1, which identifies the Antichrist as “the beast that rises out of the sea,” becomes crystal clear upon discovery that a demonic bloodline that exists today that was originally sired by a mysterious “sea beast”—the Bistea Neptunis. Merovingian authors like Laurence Gardner inform their readers about the demonic bloodline of the Bistea Neptunis in New Age books such as Bloodline of the Holy Grail:

“It was the Arcadian legacy that was responsible for the the mysterious sea beast - the Bistea Neptunis - as symbolically defined in the Merovingian ancestry. The relevant sea-lord was King Pallas, a god of old Arcadia. His predecessor was the great Oceanus. The immortal sea-lord was said to be ‘ever-incarnate in a dynasty of ancient kings’ whose symbol was a fish...” (p. 175)

This demonic creature was Neptune, the mythological god of the sea who is said to have founded Atlantis, which is the pagan version of the pre-flood civilization which God judged in Genesis 7.

Genesis 6:1-4 describes the intermarriage of mankind with demons:

“And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them, That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose. And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years. There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.”

It is possible that the cursed seed of the serpent continued after the Deluge through Noah’s son Ham. (Gen. 9:25) Gardner and other Merovingian authors claim there is a living descendant of this demonic bloodline who will one day rule over a revived Atlantis.

remember the mervo/da vinci code/priory of sion/zion lies!

yashuah was the son of man, mankind, the creators children, not the son of the devil/satan.

synergy777
09-03-2008, 04:12 PM
thus the mervo rubbish is debunked, can you believe dan brown made all that money, people are easily duped.

also to all elite bloodlines, divine right of kings adherents, elitest prats, your master is on borrowed time, he sees his end, and you don't, lol

we the people will win s we have the creator with us, the meek shall inherit.

also what about rush limbaugh, the mars/bloodline connections.

funny how they use him and his views for the hilary/obama stuff, and speak of him as a great polticial commentator, but then try to sweep his confessions under the rug.

http://www.divinecosmos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=302&Itemid=70

The Revealing III: The Mars Bloodline?
Saturday, March 10, 2007 - www.divinecosmos.com

[UPDATED 3/11, 12, 13]

Every now and then there is a "glitch in the Matrix" - and someone in a position of influence lets the curtain drop, and reveals insider secrets.

Read the world-exclusive premiere of one of the more amazing examples of this, three years after it first happened… suggesting that the Powers That Be not only believe Mars was once inhabited, but think they are the descendants of this ancient race.



RUSH SPILLS THE BEANS… AND THE STORY IS IMMEDIATELY 'SANITIZED'

Three years ago, one of our clients alerted us to a stunning Rush Limbaugh broadcast that aired on March 4, 2004. Had this been covered by the mainstream media and discussed with any seriousness, it could well have pierced the veil of UFO secrecy and led to some form of open disclosure.

Some cynics will simply say that Rush was “joking,” that the whole thing was an elaborate tongue-in-cheek attack against former VP Gore - a Democrat, and their whole platform of man-made Global Warming - tying it in with fringe elements like “Area 52”, UFOs and Martians. “Return to your homes, folks, nothing to see here.”

However, the problem may be that in order to do good “disinformation,” you actually have to introduce some lies in to what you are saying! Rush might not have done that. His data correlates with a variety of other pieces we have put together, and this seems more than just an accident. This could explain why the insiders were not willing to “run with the ball” and acknowledge his “joke”. It was too dangerous - and might get the public asking the ‘wrong’ questions.

We first found out about it on March 15th, and by that point, any transcript of the show had already been “sanitized” from the Internet. Our client said this started within days of the broadcast. There were a few places left where you could read it, but only in the Google cache - and once those had cleared, it was gone for good. Three years later, the most detailed searches turn up absolutely no record of it ever having happened.

Keep that in mind before rushing to judgment (pun intended!) about it being “nothing more than a joke”, to ease the psychological pressure that might otherwise result. Survey the evidence supporting the TRUTH of what he said after we show you the transcript. And ask yourself why OTHER broadcasts were NOT removed from his website so quickly… only this one?

Overall, this may well be an Illuminati insider revealing some of their deepest secrets - including the total obsession with the bloodlines of the elite, a subject invariably brought up by every single whistleblower you find - and his bosses were NOT laughing. No indication was given on the webpage, or in the broadcast, of it ever being a joke, as you’ll see for yourself - and it was not April Fool’s Day.

When we first heard this astonishing broadcast, and read the transcript, we were really in a bind as to whether we should disclose it or not. For whatever reason, we decided not to. Such has been the case with much of the material you are now reading in "The Revealing".


We’ve finally decided that now is the time to come forward with this fascinating story. Our contact heard the show when it was first broadcast - apparently he liked to keep an eye on the “loyal opposition” - and he saved a copy of the HTM file from Rush’s website on his hard drive. We received this file in an email on March 15, 2004, along with a digital copy of the audio that weighed in at about 1MB.

Though the HTM file did not include any of the original site graphics, it did still have a complete transcript of what Rush said. Even better, there was a link in the original HTM file to a streaming Windows Media Player version of the audio - and even though the HTM file would soon disappear from the Internet completely, the audio link still worked.

Here’s a graphic of what the HTM file looks like when we open it into a browser:



Now here is the really incredible part…

On a whim, we decided to try the audio link in the original HTM file of the transcript from Rush's website. And even now, three years later, this audio STILL EXISTS on Rush's server… and it WORKS!!!

At the time of this writing, you can still listen to this broadcast yourself… straight from the source! Only when you hear the audio yourself can you make out how distressed Rush might be about what he is saying.

Even though the mind of any skeptic automatically leads them to believe Rush was “just being funny,” (as otherwise this event makes no sense to a skeptic whatsoever, and they must maintain their “grip” on “reality” at all costs,) there are at least two places where it sounds as if he is in tears as he is telling the story. You can hear distinct stress patterns in his voice as he is “telling the joke”.

It could be that he was severely warned against talking, but couldn’t handle the pressure of having to keep such explosive inside information a secret. He probably figures that everyone in “the herd” is SO clueless that he could drop this amazing disclosure and nothing would happen. Not everyone liked his sense of humor, apparently, as it was quickly struck off the official record… like so many other aspects of secrecy we are all now seeing on a daily basis.

We can well assume that he was "visited" after this broadcast, and given healthy threats about what would happen to him, and his family, if he ever mentioned it again. Living with such a secret, and such a threat, may even explain an increase in his drug and alcohol consumption. His staff obviously were not ‘in the know’ enough to see that he’d made a mistake, and cranked out the transcript before it had time to be buried down the 'memory hole'.

We have already used a freeware utility called Net Transport to save a copy of this file to the hard drive so it doesn't disappear again, and recommend that you do the same:

http://www.xi-soft.com/default.htm



WHY SHOULD I CARE ABOUT ANYTHING RUSH LIMBAUGH SAYS?

Why is this story so important? Quite simple. Rush Limbaugh came forward, on March 4, 2004, and told his listeners that he gained access to a "highly classified" top-secret document from NASA saying that Mars was once inhabited with human life, that they destroyed their planet, some of them survived and migrated to Earth.

(remember the film mission to mars, the panspermia animation at the end in the face/building of cydonia, by the fallen/annunaki, nasa helped with film)

Even more incredibly, he implies that NASA has sent secret missions to Mars and recovered DNA samples from deceased human corpses - and the DNA from these corpses "compares favorably to members of the Skull and Bones society here on Earth" - as well as top members of Halliburton, Enron, WorldCom and Boeing - each of which are companies associated with the 'Illuminati'.

Yes. If you're thinking that all the dots connect up to an "Illuminati Bloodline," then you're on the right track, my friend. As we’ve seen in Parts One and Two, these people are OBSESSED with bloodlines. So look beyond the spin and see what most people would gloss over in ignorant laughter.

also

CAMERON'S 'TOMB OF JESUS' APPEARS TO BE A FRAUD… PREPPING THE PUBLIC FOR "THE REVEALING"

What you are about to read may be the deeper, hidden level of the story of the "Holy Grail" that is probably NOT ever planned for public disclosure - hence the immediate silencing of Rush Limbaugh, and any trace of this story, after he spilled the beans. Granted, SOME of the Illuminati may believe themselves to be descendants of Jesus, as we've set forth in the earlier sections of this series - particularly the Merovingian line - but that may only be a ploy to sell themselves to a gullible public.

Lawrence Gardner recently came forth with a very detailed, lengthy article, making a strong case that James Cameron's whole argument is built on lies. If you get into this document, you will find that the tomb ascribed to Jesus was taken from somewhere else and then added in to the mix, as if it had been discovered in the same tomb.

Blend together a box with the common name “Jesus” crudely scrawled on it - by far the lowest in quality of any of the ossuaries (bone boxes) they found…



…with a group of coffins whose names (also very common for the time) matched up with the rest of his alleged family. Add in some fake ‘Jesus dust’ with DNA that “compares favorably to members of the Skull and Bones society”, and you’ve got yourself a recipe for global takeover. Or so they think. The only problem is that it’s all a fraud!

http://www.graal.co.uk/thejesusossuary.pdf



Yet, if the public buys into Cameron’s story, and enough people believe it, (with the Da Vinci Code book and film as a foreshadowing of the eventual disclosure,) they could take the DNA from the tomb, analyze it and have it "compare favorably to members of the Skull and Bones society" - exactly as Limbaugh only half-jokingly claims they have already done with DNA from Mars!

And, Limbaugh’s statements were three years BEFORE this apparent Illuminati Endgame - forced to the surface due to the pressure of an expected event in 2012 - ever became visible.

Let's not forget that if you've been reading this article since Part One, you know that the "Illuminati" is a worldwide group, consisting of those at the top of the power structure, who believe themselves to be superior to most humans - to the point that they can invoke the so-called "Divine Right of Kings."

They have been planning to create an economic collapse that would soften up the public for their rule - ideally in the form of a "bloodless surrender" - so they can create the "New World Order" that they have been expecting for so long.

If Rush Limbaugh were to come forward and reveal their innermost secrets - including how they feel themselves to be the blood descendants of ancient "Gods" who came to earth - then it could very well disrupt the timelines of this planned disclosure, and thus would need to be silenced at all costs. You see, if they are only the DESCENDANTS of these "Gods," and the "Gods" themselves are still allegedly flying around in their UFOs, then the elites on Earth can no longer claim that they are the highest authority.

The best plan would be to associate themselves, through a carefully-contrived fraud, with the bloodline of the most highly-respected spiritual person ever to walk the face of the Earth - namely Jesus of Nazareth. With the planted DNA evidence, they can attempt to make a case.

What you are reading right now is yet additional evidence that this plan is nothing more than a fantasy, has far too many holes, and can never succeed the way they intend it to. There are too many people who know too much about what is going on, and strongly disapprove of the whole sorry mess we've now found ourselves in.



THE DRUM ROLL, PLEASE…

Enough with the suspense… by now you're dying to read the transcript, so let's go for it. Just before we begin, here is the dedicated link to the audio, where it still rests on Limbaugh's server at the time of this writing:

http://mfile.akamai.com/5020/wma/rushlimb.download.akamai.com/5020/clips/04/03/030404_10_gorereport.asx

In case it gets "sanitized" once again, here is our local copy of the same file:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/030404_10_gorereport.wma

Here is a version of the same audio as an MP3 you can right-click on and “Save Target As” in Windows to store it on your hard drive:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/The_Gore_Report.mp3

Here is a link to the HTM file that we received:

http://www.divinecosmos.com/The_Cutting_Edge_The_Gore_Report.htm

And now, read the transcript for yourself. We have cut-and-pasted the text out of the original HTM file, keeping the fonts, colors and sizes the same, except for the main body text, which we made web-generic so you can increase or decrease the font size when we get our new website template installed. We also introduced some new paragraph breaks so that everything reads better, some graphics for emphasis, and bolded certain passages that really jump out.

Notice that no one ever said this was a hoax, no apology or retraction was ever given. As far as you or anyone else knew, up until now, it never even happened. When you do go back and listen to the audio, you can hear that Limbaugh is definitely under severe stress, perhaps even tears, as he is sharing this “humorous”information:



The Gore Report

March 4, 2004

Listen to Rush…
(…talk about the top secret NASA report on Mars)

BEGIN TRANSCRIPT 01:33 PM ET

RUSH: As I mentioned recently, ladies and gentlemen, after reviewing data from one of the Mars Rovers, NASA, big press conference the other day, concluded that Mars was once drenched with enough water to "support life in a good, habitable environment." I mean, this is incredible discovery and NASA is still had to go out there and say that there's no proof that life existed. All they said was that conditions were there for there to be life. But this is not all NASA said, ladies and gentlemen. There's a lot that is not being discussed here, as a powerful, influential member of the media, I know more than you do. Especially about this.

I have seen a highly classified report that has not been released publicly and it probably won't be unless you consider my talking about it here to be releasing it publicly. It's a top secret report, code name The Gore Report. It was prepared by scientists from Area 52 in New Mexico, and they analyzed the Mars data and there's some findings in this report, and I can understand why they don't want to release this, and I don't know it all, but I want to pass off what some of The Gore Report says.

There was life on Mars, that's what NASA is not being up front, there was life, everybody knows it. We can't be the only people occupying the universe. It's impossible. Who do we think we are? The only people God created - sorry, for those of you who don't believe in God - only people who evolved from apes?

So it's clear that there was life elsewhere and now that NASA has kind of let the cat out of the bag, if there were habitable conditions up there we know there was life there. In fact, they found some DNA evidence up there that compares favorably to members of the Skull and Bones Society here on earth.

These people were highly industrialized, the Martians, they were technologically superior, and they were very arrogant people. And they thought that the power and the force of their existence was all that was needed to sustain them, and they didn't care a whit about conservation; they didn't care a whit about preserving anything; they got rid of everything that was pristine.

In fact, they used the internal combustion engine. They were globalists; they got rid of all the countries on that planet and they had just one giant society, and the powerful, rich, just absorbed everything they needed from the best parts of the planet, used it for themselves and everybody basically suffered until everybody died out because what happened was there were no checks and balances.

Probably, I don't know this, probably wasn't any campaign finance reform to restrict the corruption in their elective circumstances there, and so special interest groups and multinationals who escaped taxes by, you know, forming offshore accounts.

There's no coincidence to the fact that they found water, lots of water where habitable conditions were because it dovetails with what's in the report about some of these multinationals abandoning their own countries and locating offshore for all of the nefarious reasons.

They had rain forests. You don't hear about this. They had ancient rain forests; they had jungles; they had so much oil and gas; they had reserves out the wazoo.

In fact, one of the things they found on Mars is that it's possible that there's still some there, tiny little amounts, but it's clear. You saw the pictures from Mars. I saw the skeletons, at least I saw the fossils of the skeletons. There were people there, or there were beings there, but it looked like Pompeii, looked like these people all died huddled together, and it was just swarmed and in an instant.



Image of preserved bodies from Pompeii volcanic explosion



You know, they were one day there and then gone. So many people living close together, it has to have been the result of urban sprawl. Nobody had any space, nobody had any room, and I saw it from the pictures that they released.


It's clear, ladies and gentlemen. Mars was once the jewel of the solar system, and it was raped. Mars was raped. This is what NASA knows. This is what The Gore Report says. Mars was raped by robber barons. Capitalism, dependence on combustible engines led to global warming; the ecosystem that sustained everybody was destroyed.

That's why the water they've found is at the equator area, the ice caps melted, exactly what's happening here, folks, exactly what's happening here.

These people were advanced. Not everybody on Mars died. This is what's fascinating about this report. Not everybody on Mars died. Some were able to flee, some were able to get off the planet. This is what they can't afford to release.

UFOs, yep, all these sightings, all of these blinking lights, all these unexplained things, they're real. That's why they're calling this Area 52.

[DW: Supposedly the different 'areas' correspond to nuclear testing grounds in Nevada - but I did have one other black-ops contact who told me that some of these 'areas' are indeed off-planet.]

Those are Martians, escaping the destruction - I think this goes way back before we were alive. UFOs have been happening all over. It may well be that the bright star that guided the three wise men was a UFO.

Tax cuts absolutely were a factor. That's what the offshore thing was all about. Yeah, of course tax cuts were a factor.

[DW: Notice here that Rush still manages to read his own political biases into the story. He may have said too much that was spot-on with the truth, realized it, and suddenly had to change the subject to make it again sound more farcical.

Referring back to his earlier statements, it’s not difficult to see that the world’s most powerful elites would have hidden themselves away on a military-fortified ‘offshore’ island so they would be much harder to invade or attack. That might explain why we have not found any other areas on Mars that are as highly developed as Cydonia, with its giant pyramids and symmetrical monument in the shape of a human face.

It does make sense that if Mars was suffering from climate change, certain regions would stay pristine the longest - like the Los Angeles / coastal area being the only part of Southern California that is not now a desert, or the fact that most of the entire continent of Australia is a bleak, barren desert except for the very edges.]

But the elites got off, the elites were able to travel in space. There weren’t very many of them, but they were able to get off. They fled the planet in time.

The stunning thing about the Mars report, The Gore Report, is that they’re here. These people that destroyed Mars are here, they are on earth, folks.

They are in America. They work at Halliburton. They worked at Enron. They worked at WorldCom. They’re at Boeing.

[DW: Notice that he starts by saying “the Mars report,” and then corrects himself to say “The Gore Report,” which is obviously a fake name to try to tie this in with former VP Al Gore. That may be one of the only distortions of truth in this entire presentation.]

They came to America, and The Gore Report clearly illustrates they have not learned a thing from their experiences on Mars.

The truth is out there. Far, far out there.



END TRANSCRIPT

Read the Article…

(CNN: How much water on Mars?)


So there you have it - complete with the CNN article he linked to at the end about the discovery of water on Mars.



WASHINGTON DC - A MIRROR OF ‘CYDONIA’ ON MARS?

Is this just a big, steaming pile of BS, a sign of Rush’s quick-thinking comic genius through irony, satire and sarcasm? If there were no other evidence to the contrary, you might think so. Nonetheless, there is very clear evidence supporting the idea that Rush may have been telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth - only changing a few names to attack the innocent.

This brings us to yet another piece of the puzzle I’ve been holding onto all these years, and am only now revealing.

A 1999 analysis by Daniel Perez presented an astonishing discovery that links the US government directly to the Cydonia complex on Mars. Officially the appearance of gigantic, two-mile-wide ‘Monuments’ on this Martian plateau is just the result of a “trick of light and shadow”.

If you have taken the time to survey the evidence, see the symmetry of the Face, see the pentagon-shaped design of the nearby ‘D&M Pyramid’ and study the extensive geometric alignments of the whole area, then you might not be so easily hoodwinked back into the slumber of mainstream ‘consensus’ reality.

Remember I mentioned a five-sided pyramid? Think for a minute… is there any comparable building like that in America?

But of course, the two could not be related in any way. Of course not. That would be ridiculous.

Or would it? Assume for a minute that you have inherited ancient maps of this most unique area of Mars. Would there not be a huge temptation to pay homage to it here on Earth somehow - using ancient science to create a mirror of Heaven while still on Earth?

Try this. Try lining up the Pentagon in DC with the pentagon in Cydonia, Mars. Get all the ends tight. Make it a perfect geometric fit. Leave no overlaps.

Then, look at the maps together. Make sure it’s just a coincidence. Make sure there are no other connections. Obviously there wouldn’t be, because the Cydonia complex isn’t even real - and this whole thing is just delusional.

OK, just for fun, let’s try it. Take the layout of Washington DC and superimpose it over the Cydonia region of Mars, by lining up the five-sided pentagon on Mars with the Pentagon building in Arlington. Does anything jump out? Probably not, but let’s make sure…




http://www.startinglinks.net/cydoniaufo/WASHINGTON%20DISTRICT%20OF%20CYDONIA/

Take a close look! Once you get the two pentagons perfectly lined up, the location of the Face on Mars corresponds precisely to where the White House is in Washington DC.

Just a coincidence? It becomes harder to disprove when you see that there are SEVERAL common landmarks between the two areas - including a notably UFO-shaped area of Cydonia called the “Tholus” that corresponds to a circular street in Anacostia Park.

Also, keep in mind that if Cydonia is a real city (and I believe it is,) the Face is almost certainly a monument to a great leader. In the US, we put the faces of our leaders - all of whom served in the White House - on the money, and the most well-known leaders were carved directly into rock on the side of Mount Rushmore. So lining up the Face with the White House makes sense on more than just a “happenstance” level.

Since the Pentagon was only built recently, this may or may not have been originally intended in the layout - but when you read the article you can see there are other features that also match up, which date back to when DC was first laid out - like the first city of Rosslyn corresponding to the primary ‘city’ on the Cydonia plateau, and the circle in Anacostia Park corresponding to the Tholus.


Unfortunately, the original animated GIF that flips between the layout of Washington DC and Cydonia no longer works as it did when I first saw this in 1999. Also, at the moment there is no link that clearly shows you how there is a perfect circle in the streets of DC to correspond with the perfectly circular ‘Tholus’ structure on the surface of Mars, but I remember seeing it when it was first published and I was blown away by how closely they matched.

As an update, when I typed in “Anacostia Park, Washington, DC” to Google Earth - a free download - all I had to do is cross the river, directly to the right, and there it was - a perfect circle, with six streets feeding into it, for no apparent reason. Yet this location mates PERFECTLY with a circular form on Mars, as you can see in the original article!

Granted, this circle is smaller in width than the Tholus, and the Face is larger in width than the White House - but this has to do with symbolism more than anything else.

Getting the Pentagon to match so closely, in Arlington, VA, was really the crowning achievement in this synchronization - and it strongly suggests that they had ancient maps of Mars all along, given all these other linked coordinates.

Apart from the Cydonia connection, it is already well established that there was Masonic forethought in the planning of the streets of DC. Entire areas were laid out specifically to encode hidden symbolism - like the inverted pentagram of streets directly above the White House, as you will see in the article.

I’ve driven in DC and can tell you that these funky-shaped Masonic streets do not help you get around any easier - it might look cool to them from above, but it doesn’t help your driving performance or navigational ability on the ground.

It follows, based on this same chain of reasoning, that they might have encoded more than just the symbols of their own craft into the layout - in the hopes of creating a mirror of the City of the Gods - "as above, so below".

I do not believe this is a coincidence or an accident… it strongly suggests that the Masons who founded the United States still had ancient, secret scrolls outlining the Cydonia region of Mars, and decided to design their capital city in ways that would mirror what they knew still existed on the 'mother planet'. It also helps to explain why they would be so keen on covering up any evidence of ruins on Mars or the Moon - they consider this one of their deepest secrets.

ARE THE 'ANNUNAKI' THE SURVIVORS OF MARS?

The research of Hoagland and his associates has strongly indicated that Nibiru, the alleged "12th Planet" of Zecharia Sitchin, is actually Mars. That would mean that all the Internet buzz about the "Annunaki" - i.e. "Those who from Heaven to Earth Came" - is actually a story of the survivors of a Martian cataclysm coming to Earth and genetically enhancing the indigenous ape-men creatures with their own DNA. This is apparently common knowledge in the insider circles that Rush Limbaugh's "Gore Report" came from.

Originally the Annunaki combined their DNA with native Earth humans in the hopes of creating a slave race. Sitchin's voluminous research (summarized in a more digestible fashion in many of Lloyd Pye's works) indicates that the 'Annunaki', or 'Nephilim' as they were also called, bred these slaves in the interest of mining gold - so they could hopefully create a planet-wide shield for their atmosphere. By releasing particles of gold into the air they were hoping to reflect back the Sun's energy and forestall their own "global warming."


Sumerian statuettes of the Annunaki… notice similarity to helmets of Goa’Uld in Stargate SG-1


What you see here is a lizard-like head. My first contact with insider Illuminati information was with someone who knew one of the top 90 Illuminati in the world, on a very personal level. Other than telling me they were “the good guys,” which I believed at the time, he also told me they considered the Annunaki to be very real… and that they wore helmets to scare the indigenous people and protect themselves from our different atmosphere.

Other pictures of the Annunaki clearly show they were more humanlike than these statues make them appear - albeit some pretty big dudes.

I am aware that Sitchin’s research has often been seen as infallible - almost Divine revelation. In the orthodox Sitchin model, you have Nibiru, or “Planet X,” on a 3600-year orbit, which occasionally comes close to the Earth. This is when Sitchin believes we had the greatest contact with the Annunaki.

As I wrote in a recent update in David’s Blog, the problem with the Planet X model is that we now know planets cannot do this. Comets are small enough to have elliptical orbits, but larger objects get caught in the pressure-waves from the sun - i.e. “Stoneking Resonance” - and quickly fall into a stable orbit.

Sitchin has tried to tie in ALL of the UFO and ET phenomena to the Annunaki, and I feel this is also a mistake. He is interpreting ancient scriptures and making conclusions that seem logical, but in some cases there is plenty of room for an alternative viewpoint.

One way in which Sitchin’s model really doesn’t hold up is the idea that ANY inhabited planet could have such a distant orbit - all the way out past Pluto in the freezing-cold areas of our Solar System. Now if our temperature fluctuates by just a few degrees, we fear an apocalypse. Imagine if our Earth suddenly took off into regions so cold that the best we could hope for in the summer is 50 below zero?

Obviously the Sumerian record is based on real events - Sitchin’s research is quite convincing on that front - but if we’re looking for the most likely real candidate for a neighboring inhabited world, we should be looking at Mars - not an unseen, undiscovered planet at the coldest fringes of space.

Hoagland and the Enterprise Mission team has not yet made all the particulars of their Sumerian re-analysis public, but I’ve seen it - on the God, Man and ET video, and again at our Joshua Tree conference - and I came away convinced that this is a valuable, obvious addition to the body of knowledge that Sitchin started to create.

It also seems clear that the insiders knew this all along, and were more than happy to have Sitchin make an error in judgment, so people were less likely to put it all together. That also further explains why Rush’s comical outburst became such an obvious outrage that it had to be entirely struck from the record.

JOE MC MONEAGLE: REMOTE VIEWING OF FORMER INHABITANTS OF MARS

Also, Joe Mc Moneagle, who is highly respected for his accuracy in remote viewing, revealed in his book "Mind Trek" that the inhabitants of Mars were nearly twice the height of modern humans. We might ascribe this to their having a smaller-sized planet, and therefore a weaker field of gravity that would allow the body to grow larger in size, just like goldfish grow larger in size if you give them a larger tank.

As I have written about in the CONVERGENCE series on this website, there is clear evidence that the Earth has been continually expanding in size over time, and this may account for why the dinosaurs were so much larger than we are now. In our current gravity these giant lizards would never be able to move around or even lift their heads - but on a smaller earth they would have no trouble.

Neal Adams has done a great job of animating the expansion of the Earth and other bodies in the solar system here:



http://www.nealadams.com/nmu.html
The larger body size of those from Mars, and obviously their vastly superior technology, could account for many ancient tales of "Giants" who came to the Earth, and were worshipped as Gods.



IF YOU HAVEN’T TOTALLY RUN SCREAMING YET, OR COLLAPSED FROM SARCASTIC LAUGHTER…

If you’ve never encountered any of these concepts before, then you’re probably new to most of this, and there is a lot more reading you can do if you are interested. You certainly can laugh if you want to, but what is important for us at this time is that the world’s elites consider this to be very real. Many different sources of information all line up to tell the same story.

In the next section of The Revealing, coming up soon, we will explore the further implications of this astonishing ‘leak’ of information from the ‘Gore Report’, and analyze some of the excerpts in more detail. This is also going to be covered from another angle in our upcoming article with Richard Hoagland on interplanetary climate change.

Lastly, two clips recently appeared on YouTube that further exposes the agendas of the “New World Order” in a form that is humorous and hard-hitting. We’ve already recommended that you watch the Aaron Russo clips in earlier sections of this series, but this is a great summary. Comedy, as we said before, is a key ingredient in relieving fear, so we recommend watching these clips:


UPDATE: WAS RUSH ‘JUST JOKING’ - BUT GOT TOO CLOSE TO THE TRUTH?

This was the first update I wrote after posting the transcript - before I realized that most people would just automatically assume that Rush was joking. For my ears, it was so identical to everything I’ve been putting together that I didn’t even HEAR the humor in it, until recently.

It’s a fascinating and gratifying experience for me to bring you these updates and get your email feedback, pointing out things I would never have thought of. Here’s an email from a reader who was the first to point out that this whole episode could have been an attempt at satire:


“I suspect that Rush’s comments may have been a satire - I don’t have the context of the whole show to be certain but he seems to be mocking Al Gore, talking about Martian robber barons coming to the USA and working at Halliburton, Enron, Boeing, etc., having destroyed the martian environment with urban sprawl and global warming.

He says it was a top secret report and then brags that as a powerful media figure he got to see the report and is of his own volition sharing this top secret info to millions of his listeners… Rush may be arrogant but he’s not that foolish to be sharing classified info on the air without approval.

The government wouldn’t call such a report “The Gore Report.” I suggest you consider this angle and make a disclaimer, with the consideration that Rush’s satire may have developed from him seeing/hearing genuine info about Martian ruins and having permission to joke about this at Al Gore’s expense.”

Obviously, this is the ONLY explanation that could give Rush an “out”, so that people like me would appear to be the idiots in not realizing he was joking - tying in “Area 52,” Martians and UFOs with Al Gore’s campaign about global warming, and fingering the usual corporate suspects… tossing in Skull and Bones to try to make it seem even more outrageous.

Where I disagree with my emailer is that I do not necessarily believe Rush had permission to come forward with this story. Part of why I finally chose to publish it is that while I have no information about whether Mars had internal combustion engines and a world elite that located themselves on a safe, isolated island, I have heard much of what Rush said in this update from other, independent sources in a position to know.

This is information that has NOT been made public, so even if Rush was following these stories online he wouldn’t have known everything he said. Furthermore, as I said earlier, Cydonia is the only area of the planet that has giant monuments - so that seems to be a good fit with Rush’s statements about the elites finding a secure compound to isolate themselves in. That’s where they would have spent all the money, and built the most noble structures - and that is exactly what we see.

It may well be that Rush didn’t change or distort enough of what he was actually told for this to be an acceptable form of disinformation. The part that is odd to me is how specific and detailed he is, how fast it just rolls out of his mouth, and how well it fits with many other pieces of data, some of which I still haven’t published.

[One example is that there was a Sci Fi Network documentary in 2005 that very clearly tried to tie in the “Goa’Uld” from Stargate SG-1 with Mars, and blatantly pulled many elements from Hoagland’s model as well as my own. In fact, they actually used a graphic from one of my Convergence books in one scene early along - obviously without crediting the source.

I have heard at least two different black-ops sources tell me that Stargate SG-1 - particularly the first and second season - is being used to acclimate the public to some of the real things that are being dealt with on the inside. The Goa’Uld are intended to be the “Annunaki”, and this other documentary made that point very clear.

Episodes like “Wormhole X-Treme” give an insider’s wink and nod to the viewers, helping them realize that even though the show is fake, it is based upon real truths. This is again going to be something I will discuss in more detail as time goes on.]



THE MOON VIDEO WAS ONLY A RECONSTRUCTION

By the way, if you’ve been keeping up with my frequent updates to this site in David’s Blog, then you should easily recall the video of astronauts allegedly exploring ruins on the Moon. After doing more research, I did find out that it was a digital reconstruction by a Spanish CG animation team called Dibilutoon Studios. However, it was a reconstruction based on detailed witness testimony, and thus lovingly designed to look as authentic as possible.

We do run the risk of pointing things out that can be shot down later. I certainly am not “trying to be right” about everything, nor will I alter or remove content to try to ‘save face’ if something like this comes up.

The skeptics try to take everything as if it were a farce, a joke, an object of ridicule. Individual pieces of data can be attacked - as in the case of the alleged moon video and of Limbaugh’s very odd statement - but that doesn’t destroy the whole model.

Thanks to a tip from a reader, I’ve tracked down detailed analyses of the ‘obelisks’ on the Moon’s surface that I had alluded to in the last Moon article. I will write this all up some time in the next couple days. Just hit www.divinecosmos.com and click on “David’s Blog” to keep up with these breaking developments.

In this series on The Revealing, we are continuing to link together a vast array of interconnected pieces of data that suggest a larger, hidden order. If Limbaugh’s comments were totally baseless and sarcastic, why was the transcript so quickly removed from his own website? Why was it never discussed in any form again, until now? How did he happen to connect so many dots that many other insider sources have alluded to in the past?



A BIT OF READER FEEDBACK…

This letter appeared in the discussion group this morning and it represents what an effect this series is having. What ‘The Revealing’ series offers is a perspective of hope that is almost never seen anywhere else:

“The timing of these articles is perfect. (To me) it seemed for years that the elements of corruption and [negative, self-serving behavior] were steadily increasing their stranglehold on the mainstream media and the government, but now it’s very easy to see how the plans are cracking around the edges.

Every day, a new tidbit of info leaks out. While each is but a small piece, it seems people in general are awakening to the larger picture that’s in front of us. While the entire scenario [of the ‘endgame’ plan of “The Revealing”] this 3-part article lays out hasn’t happened yet, it’s not beyond the realm of possibility for me.

My biggest thought reading this was that the acceleration of the time table will be a major problem for the [negative elite]. I mean who’s going to really believe that the families running this country are descended from Jesus and/or partially divine when they’re responsible for Iraq, New Orleans, etc.?

Who’s going to believe that the solution to maintaining their divinity is through hundreds of years of inbreeding? That’s about as silly as me taking moral advice from the organization that thought the Crusades and the Inquisition were good ideas. (pardon the sarcasm)

[DW: Actually, Svali says that the Illuminati DID penetrate the highest levels of the Vatican - so our reader is right on track.]

In this era where more and more people see through the illusion, can these plans ever really work? To me the answer is a hopeful ‘Surely not.’

Just like in David’s [lucid] dream[s], where he can show Ascended abilities [to the people around him] until the illusion is broken [by him telling them “None of this is real, I’m having a lucid dream,” at which point they would zone out and walk away - apparently ‘protected’ from having their illusion broken], the [negative elite] group(s) plans can only work if the people don’t realize that it’s an illusion.

I hope the analogy is close enough to work. [DW: It is.]


The key to the entire thing is balance. That’s the part that finally explained to me how it’s possible to overcome the negative. The harder they try to draw the strings together, the more the contents of the bag leak out.

It’s a great expose’, and it ties so many loose facts together… kudos, David. You’ve clearly done your homework far better than I, and I thought I was more aware than most.

May we all shine on.”



FURTHER PROOF OF “FAMILY” IN FREEFALL

The day after we posted this latest update, a screaming red headline appeared on the Drudge Report… and it was warning everyone that one of top-five “Family” (i.e. Illumiati) corporations, Viacom, is suing YouTube/Google for (cue Dr. Evil voice) “one BILLION dollars.”



http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/070313/viacom_youtube_lawsuit.html?.v=6

“YouTube’s soaring popularity has been a cause of fascination but also fear among the owners of traditional media outlets, who worry that YouTube’s displaying of clips from their programs — without compensation — will lure away viewers and ad dollars from cable and broadcast TV.

Viacom is especially at risk because much of its programming is aimed at younger audiences who also are heavy Internet users…

In a statement, Viacom lashed out at YouTube’s business practices, saying it has “built a lucrative business out of exploiting the devotion of fans to others’ creative works in order to enrich itself and its corporate parent Google.”

Viacom said YouTube’s business model, “which is based on building traffic and selling advertising off of unlicensed content, is clearly illegal and is in obvious conflict with copyright laws.”… In addition to damages, Viacom is also seeking an injunction prohibiting Google and YouTube from using its clips.”

This is clearly showing the level of desperation - as online video has taken off more than anyone would have ever dreamed even one year ago. I conducted an informal survey this morning, and with very little effort I was able to find a list of well over 100 different websites following the YouTube formula.

Even more interestingly, as it turns out, Viacom really doesn’t have much of a case… and therefore probably won’t win this lawsuit:


http://blogs.business2.com/beta/2007/03/viacoms_gootube.html
“There’s one thing missing from most coverage of Viacom’s $1 billion lawsuit against Google and YouTube: the law. Sure, there’s copyrighted material on YouTube. But Google (GOOG) employees didn’t put it there; YouTube’s users did. And whether Viacom’s (VIA) lawyers like it or not, user-stolen content is treated differently under the law of the land.

The Digital Millennium Copyright Act is pretty clear on this: The operator of an Internet service is not responsible for the content its users post, save for taking it offline when it receives a “takedown” notice from a copyright holder…

Google’s lawyers, I’d bet, have been waiting for this lawsuit all along - a big-money lawsuit from a high-profile opponent with a perilously weak legal argument. Sure, Viacom may have felt compelled to file this lawsuit to protect its copyrighted content - but if it loses, it will be in a much weaker position to negotiate business terms with Google.”



You remember our discussion about Chaos and Complexity Theory from parts I and II. We set forth the concept that the Internet, like the global economy, is a “complex adaptive system” that cannot be collapsed - only evolved into yet a higher level of order. Similarly, online video is here to stay - and if you look at the history of MP3 file-sharing websites, when one was successfully taken down (i.e. Napster) another came up in its place very soon afterwards (i.e. Kazaa).

If you have a careful, watchful eye, you can start observing these events, not as inconsequential nuisances in your daily search, but proof positive that the negative elite are losing their grip on control by the day. Fox recently bought MySpace and are terrified that another website could come in and replace it.

This is why, as I have so often stated, there is no reason to worship “Family” with fear. They can’t move forward on any new agendas when right now they’re just desperately trying to keep themselves afloat. Don’t think it’s just going to stay like it is now… I have seen that there are some very amazing, unprecedented changes still ahead. Everyone will be quite surprised.

I was having detailed information come through, predicting all of this, back in the late 1990s, and another reason why I have no fear about the future is because these prophecies have been coming true, right down to the letter, again and again. Why would they suddenly stop now?

In the next section of this series we will more deeply explore the “radiant mind energy” that ‘Family’ has secretly known about - and used - for thousands of years. This is perhaps their deepest Secret - and their knowledge goes far beyond the film with the same title. Once you understand what they know, and how they are using it, you can start turning things around in your own life - for the positive.


TO BE CONTINUED…

please click on the link, the diagrams are awesome.

so there you have it folks

1love/peace

connect the dots, cross reference, critical analysis, creative thinking, correlation etc

synergy777
09-03-2008, 04:19 PM
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/205/perseuszz4.jpg

1love/peace

niftygifter
09-03-2008, 07:02 PM
On the Nail once again Synergy:D:D

Top Post and Respect;)

Crawl back into your arsehole, Marquesa:p

Nifty

intruder
09-03-2008, 07:08 PM
since you told us to watch TV....well, say no more.

big brother doesn't watch you....YOU watch IT.

intruder
09-03-2008, 07:25 PM
...it puts the cable on or it gets the hose.

deliciously_fresh
09-03-2008, 07:51 PM
Freepost

kweli
09-03-2008, 07:51 PM
You're on the ball synergy, you present some excellent information to this forum. Many thanks

synergy777
09-03-2008, 09:31 PM
this very concisely ties in the biblical fallen and ufo/annunaki/panspermia-cloning/sitchin,

its ties the real name yashuah and the mervo/bloodline counterfeit claim.

thus yashuah existed and the elite feared him and his message.

91181
09-03-2008, 09:33 PM
Ha Ha thread starter got destroyed by Synergy 777 :D

synergy777
09-03-2008, 09:34 PM
the very actions of the elite, gives away the truth they try to hide with their lies, lol

gremlin
09-03-2008, 09:36 PM
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Don't think that we are playing around; this is REAL; this is deadly serious. We are going to take our proper place ruling this world NOW! So, the better informed you are, the better you will adjust to the new regime.

By the way, make sure that you watch Madonna at her induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony on March 10th, tomorrow night at 8:30 p.m. PST, in New York. It will be shown LIVE on VH1 Classics.

That's all I have to say for now; if you have any questions, please feel free to email me.

Thank you,
Marquesa, your Lord

so you dont have to do manual labour, lucky you.

greenleaf
09-03-2008, 09:44 PM
Hello,

My name is Marquesa Laurel Windsor Gastineau,

Thank you,
Marquesa, your Lord

I bet you feel a right cunt now don't you?...all that spamming and not a reply to give as you severely underestimated the talents of members of this forum in their research techniques..
namely Synergy strikes again!... you've been EXPOSED matey....get a packet of crisps and ask your mum if you can stop up late to watch late night telly

synergy777
09-03-2008, 09:49 PM
its all a team effort, its the people who did the articles,

the people at wiki, divine cosmos etc.

i just put the pieces/puzzle together, intution/analysis etc,

but they importantly provide the pieces.

freeworld
09-03-2008, 10:09 PM
How much are the Government paying you to get us off the Beaten Track, can't we delete this thread it is utter Bollox.

synergy777
09-03-2008, 10:11 PM
its bang on if you check the posts i made, its you who is off the mark.

freeworld
09-03-2008, 10:17 PM
its bang on if you check the posts i made, its you who is off the mark.

Back up a second, are you stating to me that this woman is who she says she is :eek: :confused:

weston white
09-03-2008, 10:18 PM
Hello,

My name is Marquesa Laurel Windsor Gastineau, and I am the Head of the Merovingian Bloodline. I and my Spouse, Madonna Francine Windsor Gastineau, would like to invite anyone who would like to find out about us, the TOP LIZARDS IN THIS WORLD, to our website, and find out what we intend to do with the people of Earth, now that we have come back.

The website is www.danielskey.com you will find a free book download there that explains everything in great details.

Don't think that we are playing around; this is REAL; this is deadly serious. We are going to take our proper place ruling this world NOW! So, the better informed you are, the better you will adjust to the new regime.

By the way, make sure that you watch Madonna at her induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony on March 10th, tomorrow night at 8:30 p.m. PST, in New York. It will be shown LIVE on VH1 Classics.

That's all I have to say for now; if you have any questions, please feel free to email me.

Thank you,
Marquesa, your Lord

Ahah! So you admit that you are a regime!

synergy777
09-03-2008, 10:20 PM
no i am saying the posts i made refute her claims, and show something which is more accurate than her version.

she is after publicity for her book,

dude, she thinks she is yashuah and hitler reincarnated, and loves madonna, and then she thanks the herectics of the kabbalah, whats next. her giving thanks to tom cruise and scientologists, lol

i feel sorry for her, she is either unstable/confused/possesed or disinfo.

freeworld
09-03-2008, 10:21 PM
no i am saying the posts i made refute her claims, and show something which is more accurate than her version.

shes is after publicity for her book, dude she thinks she is yashuah and hitler reincarnated, and loves madonna, and then she thanks the herectics of the kabbalah, whats next. her giving thanks to tom cruise and scientologists, lol

i feel sorry for her, she is either unstable/confused/possesed or disinfo.

Thank fuck for that i was getting worried then - sorry i apologies my friend.

edelweiss pirate
09-03-2008, 10:22 PM
OMG... you're the messiah... that is soooo ridiculous......

That's my job..

freeworld
09-03-2008, 10:22 PM
Back up a second, are you stating to me that this woman is who she says she is :eek: :confused:

synergy777 - its bang on if you check the posts i made, its you who is off the mark.

I was directing my post at the mad lady, did you think it was directed at you?

Confusion :confused:

synergy777
09-03-2008, 10:24 PM
sorry my bad, i thought you were directing it at me, my bad,

i got a chip on both shoulders, i'm balanced, lol

freeworld
09-03-2008, 10:25 PM
sorry my bad, i thought you were directing it at me, my bad,

i got a chip on both shoulders, i'm balanced, lol

No worries but seriously this whole thread should be deleted - We do not need this kind of crap on this Forum

I know she is a premier Subscriber on this forum but that should not stop this whole thread to be deleted

synergy777
09-03-2008, 10:30 PM
no way, the posts i made clear up a lot of stuff, it should be kept.

we need more people like her, they provide the platform for us to disprove them.

edelweiss pirate
09-03-2008, 10:57 PM
Hi Lori, I've been reading your e-book....

Some of it is a code for me.... that's quantum physics... the act of observing changes what you observe to suit your wishes... you've noticed the same phenomenon.

I know where you're coming from... just be careful... try to keep balanced and keep one foot on the ground at all times.

Anything's possible... let's save this dirty 'ol world.

Although if i were you.....I'd save the world 'more quietly'.

Many people will not understand you...

It's good tho... we need a bit more of this kind of magical manifestation and a bit less waiting for someone to do it for us.... Follow your dream TAKE CONTROL OF REALITY! Drive that wild horse wherever you want it to go....

Let's raise an army of messiahs!

synergy777
09-03-2008, 11:14 PM
from page 224-5

I am related to the Merovingian lineage (the “lizard” bloodline) by blood and by
Spirit; I am also related to the Spencer family, the family that Princess Diana descended
from. My grandmother’s maiden name is Spencer. My family line is Holt/Spencer; Holt
(19) Spencer (31), 19+31 = 50 – Holy Spirit. This means that I am related to the British
Royal Family, and Princess Diana’s family, distant cousins. When Diana died, I
absorbed her spirit; so she is reincarnated in me. I am the mother (by spirit) and cousin
(by blood lineage on both sides of the family) to Princes William and Harry. I am
legitimate British Royalty. It also means that I am blood related to George Bush, and the
rest of the ruling lizards. I am the Head of the lizards, come to take my proper place.
Maia and I both come from the planet Rigel, the 7th brightest star in the Orion
Constellation. Betelgeuse is where the Holy Temple of Jerusalem is, on the 12th brightest
star. Our home is 1440 light years away. This is Heaven. That is why the Bible’s
descriptions of time are the way they are. This is why the famous pyramids of Egypt are
arranged the way they are, and duplicate the position of the Orion Constellation. I
answer to the Holy Spirit of God, my FATHER who directs my every step

(http://doernenburg.alien.de/alternativ/orion/ori00_e.php ;
http://www.crystalinks.com/gpstats.html ;
http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/constellations/Orion.html ;
http://www.astro.wisc.edu/~dolan/constellations/messier/m45.html).

What I want to make crystal clear is Madonna and I are BENEVOLENT; we are
only wanting to help save people, to bring them to spiritual perfection, so they may be
free and enjoy life, not be enslaved by it!!! This is OUR MISSION; this is our fondest
dream. We will be working hard to make this dream a reality for us all! First thing:
STOP THE WARS WORLDWIDE!!! That is the first item on our agenda!

drael
09-03-2008, 11:25 PM
Great vampire costume! Peoples outfits at this party are just getting better and better...:D

armoured_amazon
10-03-2008, 02:21 AM
Ha Ha thread starter got destroyed by Synergy 777 :D

:D

2 Pet 2:1 [NIV] But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.

edelweiss pirate
10-03-2008, 09:13 AM
from page 224-5

Use your illusion Synergy..... Most important thing I ever learned from GnR.

tejas
10-03-2008, 12:33 PM
Nice Try Marquessa

I know you will understand this...

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ITS TOO LATE TO TRICK THEM, THEY/WE ARE ALREADY WAKING UP..!

OVER AND OUT

TEJAZZZ

synergy777
10-03-2008, 05:16 PM
http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/

2/05: The New York Giants, the undisputed underdog, somehow managed to beat the Patriots and win the Super Bowl Sunday. As improbable as it was, from a multicontextual perspective the outcome of was easily foreseeable. Coming just a month after the ignition of Solar Cycle 24 on January 4th that officially commenced the 'Grail/Templar/Solar Resurrection' synonymous with the phoenix, and played in the city of Phoenix, the Super Bowl was obviously a continuation of the cosmic storyline permeating the matrix of reality at this time, especially with the Giants in the game representing the Nephilim, the 'fallen angels'.

'NFL' (National Football League) is identical to the Semitic root of 'Nephilim' (N-F-L).

The Nephilim were the offspring of the 'sons of the gods' and 'daughters of men' as per the Book of Genesis chapter 6 where they are usually referred to as 'giants'.

The Nephilim personify the Grail, phoenix, Benben Stone, etc.

The Giants are from the Big Apple (NY), the forbidden fruit of knowledge having much in common with the Nephilim who are actually more or less interchangeable with Eve.

Though usually translated as 'giants' and 'men of renown' in Genesis 6, these were the Nephilim (fallen ones) and 'people of the shem'.

Shems were particularly associated with something called an-na, which meant 'heavenly stone', a term that was also used to define a shining metal. The use of the word shem in respect of its 'shining' aspect is apparent in the alternative name for Prince Utu, brother of Inanna... His epithet was Shem-esh: the Shining One. (Laurence Gardner, Genesis of the Grail Kings, p.120)

The shem was thus a 'heavenly shining fire-stone'... associated with the Tower of Babel:

...let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a shem, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.

Specifically associated with the top of a tower, the shem is comparable to the Egyptian Benben Stone, often thought have been a meteorite ('fallen from heaven' like the Nephilim) that was placed on top of a pyramid/obelisk, i.e. a capstone. Tellingly, the Benben Stone was also equated with the soul of Osiris and the phoenix (or 'bennu bird' in ancient Egypt), both synonymous with resurrection. The Holy Grail is similarly a 'stone fallen from heaven' (described as such in Wolfram von Eschenbach's Parzival) and associated with resurrection (of Jesus) as well as described as a 'stone of youth and rejuvenation'. The Benben Stone was also kept in Heliopolis, 'City of the Sun', making the sacred stone - the whole complex - something of a 'Sun Stone'.

Hence we could plausibly infer that 'Resurrection of the Grail/Sun' is synonymous with the 'Resurrection of the Nephilim/Giants'. As such, the New York Giants, the 'Nephilim' team in the biggest NFL/Nephilim game played in Phoenix soon after the 'resurrection of the Sun', were contextually set up to win, so as to continue the Phoenix Resurrection in the Valley of the Sun. And they did.

-----------------------------------------

Now, as noted before, January 22nd was precisely when Comet Holmes passed right in front of the 'Demon Star' Algol reflected by Ledger's demonic 'Joker' character in 'The Dark Knight' to be released this summer... which is another 'knight' movie. Even more compelling, I was informed by a reader more familiar with the Batman series that one of the supervillains Batman regularly fights is named 'Ra's al Ghul' which is the original form of the name 'Algol'! Like Ledger, he's even comparable to the phoenix:

Ra's al Ghul... is a DC Comics supervillain and an enemy of Batman. His name is Arabic for "the ghoul's head" (the Demon's Head, see Algol). [...] Ra's al Ghul has lived for several centuries thanks to his use of Lazarus Pits which he has used countless times replenishing his aged, injured, or even dead body. [...]

Remember, we're not noticing patterns lazily in hindsight here. There is a considerable amount of foresight involved in all this (projections => confirmations) which serves to greatly help prove the validity of the patterns being discussed. You see it done on Etemenanki regularly even though it should normally be 'impossible', which should tell you something about the nature of 'reality'... that there is 'Enki' whispering on the other side of the wall.


templar/mervo link, hence the vaticans apology of to the templar/mervo, all an act.


http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/st_anthony-code.htm

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/deep_impact_january.htm

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/orange_gate_2008.htm

amethyst
10-03-2008, 08:27 PM
That's an interesting set of articles you posted there synergy777. The Rush Limbaugh transcript was taken from an article on David Wilcock website no?

"It's clear, ladies and gentlemen. Mars was once the jewel of the solar system, and it was raped. Mars was raped. This is what NASA knows. This is what The Gore Report says. Mars was raped by robber barons. Capitalism, dependence on combustible engines led to global warming; the ecosystem that sustained everybody was destroyed.
That's why the water they've found is at the equator area, the ice caps melted, exactly what's happening here, folks, exactly what's happening here.

These people were advanced. Not everybody on Mars died. This is what's fascinating about this report. Not everybody on Mars died. Some were able to flee, some were able to get off the planet. This is what they can't afford to release.

UFOs, yep, all these sightings, all of these blinking lights, all these unexplained things, they're real. That's why they're calling this Area 52.

[DW: Supposedly the different 'areas' correspond to nuclear testing grounds in Nevada - but I did have one other black-ops contact who told me that some of these 'areas' are indeed off-planet.]

Well what Rush is quoted as saying, seems to line up with the scriptures taken from the book of Ezekiel chapt. 28:16-17 where Lucifer/Satan, in this book refered to as the "king Of Tyre" says about him, that he is/was a being that was really violent and corrupted:

"Through your widespread trade
you were filled with violence,
and you sinned.
So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God,
and I expelled you, O guardian cherub,
from among the fiery stones."

"Your heart became proud
on account of your beauty,
and you corrupted your wisdom
because of your splendor.
So I threw you to the earth;
I made a spectacle of you before kings."

And in verse 18 says:

"By your many sins and dishonest trade
you have desecrated your sanctuaries."

So I'm guessing that planet Mars was Satan's home where he ruled and did all his dishonest trading,....he became arrogant because of all his wealth and screwed up his planet Mars. And his offspring (the Annunaki) are trying to carry out his same corrupted plan on earth. They did it by mating with human women. This will eventually lead up to putting his "chosen one" (the antichrist who is "his" son), on the world's throne and calling him God.......but he is just trying to copy God, because God has a son too.

edelweiss pirate
10-03-2008, 08:43 PM
The face on Mars has been exposed as disinfo and wishful thinking by Nasa high res images... The people involved shown as working for American secret services and exposed many times over as charlatans and worse, potentially murderers (if the number of suicides which hang over the council of 9's work is any judge)

Why on earth then do people still maintain the ludicrous Cydonia belief?

beldazar
11-03-2008, 10:30 PM
Thats interesting, I hadnt heard that the cydonia face had been exposed as disinfo, have you got a link or any more info about it?

thirdwave
11-03-2008, 10:49 PM
marquesa seems to be a bit quite :)

greenleaf
11-03-2008, 10:50 PM
not so 'Illuminati'd then!... lights been put out!.

edelweiss pirate
11-03-2008, 10:52 PM
marquesa seems to be a bit quite :)

I think she's alright....

She's clearly deeply frustrated about the world around her and has decided to assume power and control over it....

Fair enough.... it's quite a tight-rope but it's fun to walk in the sky... I want to see more of here round here...

Some of what she says almost makes sense to me.... but it is HER private journey.

dondaz
25-03-2008, 10:37 PM
Synergy, you're a don mate. You are right, these type of threads shouldn't be deleted, they should be debunked, as you have so graciously done. Not only that, your links have led me in directions I never thought possible. Nice one syn!;):)

Good thread!

joyful
26-03-2008, 12:27 AM
the TOP LIZARDS IN THIS WORLD

I'd like to see you in a wrestle with T-rex , king kong and godzilla.

synergy777
27-03-2008, 08:53 PM
http://www.redicecreations.com/winterwonderland/stoneofscone.html

Stone of Scone - Stone of Destiny - Jacob's Pillow/Pillar Stone - BabyLon(don) & Rennes Le Chateau

The Stone of Scone in the Coronation Chair at Westminster Abbey

2005 10 01

Compiled by Henrik Palmgren | Red-Ice.net

The Stone of Scone, more commonly known as the Stone of Destiny or the Coronation Stone (though the former name sometimes refers to Lia Fáil) is a block of sandstone historically kept at the now-ruined abbey in Scone, near Perth. It is also known as Jacob's Pillow Stone, Jacob's Pillar Stone and as the Tanist Stone.

Traditionally, it is supposed to be the stone which Jacob used as a pillow. It was originally supposed to have been used as the Coronation Stone of the early Dalriada Scots when they lived in Ireland. When they invaded Caledonia, it is said to have been taken with them for that use. Another theory states that the stone was actually the travelling altar used by St Columba in his missionary activities throughout what is now Scotland. Certainly, since the time of Kenneth Mac Alpin at around 847, Scottish kings were seated upon the stone during their coronation ceremony. At this time the stone was situated at Scone, a few miles north of Perth.

In 1996 the British Government decided that the Stone should be kept in Scotland when not in use at coronations, and on November 15, 1996, after a handover ceremony at the Border between representatives of the Home Office and of the Scottish Office, it was returned to Scotland and transported to Edinburgh Castle where it remains. Although the Stone is back in Scotland, Edinburgh Castle is the military headquarters of the UK army in Scotland, and some Scots have argued that the stone should be kept someplace solely Scottish, someplace which could not be interpreted as symbolic of United Kingdom union. Provision has been made to transport the stone to Westminster Abbey when it is required there for future coronation ceremonies.

Read more: Stone of Scone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Jacob's Pillow-Pillar Stone - Jacob's Dream stone

Jacob's Pillow-Pillar Stone refers to an episode in the Book of Genesis 28:10-18 [1] when the Hebrew patriarch Jacob was running from home after getting the blessing of the first born from his father Isaac (and which his brother Esau also wanted), he came to a place where he rested his head on a stone and then consecrated it after God appeared to him in a dream.)

Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob%27s_Pillow-Pillar_Stone

Jacob's Ladder (Bible)

Jacob then named the place Bethel (literally, "House of God". "El" is one short form of "Elohim"). The name "House of God" and the term "gate of heaven" are suggestive of the metaphor of the temple as the earthly abode of a deity; this is reinforced by the image in Jacob's dream of a ladder between heaven and earth which the angels of God and (according to the "beside him" reading of the text) God himself use to come down to earth.

Read more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacob%27s_Ladder_%28Bible%29

Where is the Gate of the Heavens? - Tower of BabyLon(don)?

Jacob Hears the Voice of the Lord

...Jacob's experiences in Charan, where he fled to escape the wrath of his brother Esau, who is angry with him because he stole the blessing (Bereishit 27). Jacob leaves Beersheba, on his way into exile, stops for a nights rest in a place that was to become known as "Beit El" (the house of God) and there he dreams a dream. In his dream: "Behold a ladder set up on the earth, and the head of it reached heaven and behold the angels of God ascending and descending on it" (Bereishit 28:12). After this God reveals himself and promises to protect Jacob wherever he may travel, to give him the "land upon which you lie" (verse 13) and even a multitude of descendants: "Your seed shall be as the dust of the earth and you shall spread to the west, to the east to the north and to the south" (Verse 14). The continuation of the narrative tells: "And Jacob awoke out of his sleep and he said: Surely the Lord is in this place: and I knew it not. And he was afraid and he said: How terrible is this place! This is none other then the house of the Lord and this is the gate of heaven" (verses 16-17).

The description of the height of the ladder that Jacob sees "the head of it reached heaven", reminds us of the description of the tower of Babel, by its builders: "We will build a city and a tower with its head reaching heaven" (Bereishit 12:4). The story of the building of the tower of Babel is a story of human pride that knows no limits. Man wants to build a tower and make a name for himself (ibid verse 4), to cross the boundary between heaven and earth, between man and God. Man's punishment is not slow to come: God scatters them on the face of the earth and divides them according to their languages so that no one understood his fellow man. The story concludes with a Midrash mocking and poking fun at the name Babel: "therefore they called its name Babel because God balal (confused) the languages of the earth" (verse 9). Hereinafter we shall see how the residents of Babylon explained the name of the city they dwelt in; the Torah in any case explains it in terms of confusion and intermingling.

In the whole Bible we find no other similar phrases to the abovementioned two: "and the head of it [the ladder] reached heaven" and "a tower with its head reaching heaven". The similarity between the two phrases should attract the attention of the reader and cause them to compare the two stories in which they are found. But one thing must be remembered: the reader should not be satisfied with finding similarity but even more importantly should look for dissimilarity and even disagreement between them, as it could in fact be there that the message lies. The following is a comparison between the story of the tower of Babel and Jacob's ladder.

1. While the tower connects between earth and heaven, it is the initiative of man; the revelation of the ladder in Jacob's dream is an expression of God's will. Man remains on earth but, if God wills it, man can witness a revelation that connects between heaven and earth.

2. Man's plot to ascend to the heavens does not succeed and God stops the building process. In contrast, the ladder does connect between heaven and earth and ministering angels ascend and descend upon it, as only they are able and allowed to do so.

3. In order to view man's handiwork, the building of the tower, God descends from his place: "And God descended to see the city and the tower which man had built" (12:5). When talking to Jacob, God stands at the top of the ladder: "And behold the Lord stood above it and said 'I am Hashem, the God of Abraham" (28:13).

4. When building the city and tower, the builder made use of bricks: "and they had brick for stone" (11:3), and it's possible that we have here an expression of astonishment - and maybe even mockery - of those who put their faith in the strength and durability of bricks, made by human hands. Jacob, in contrast, places a real stone: "And Jacob arose early in the morning and took the stone he had put under his head and placed it as a monument" (28:18). The stone Jacob placed was the foundation of the house of God which would be established in that place: "and this stone which I have placed as a monument will be the house of God" (ibid 22)

5. In the labor of construction by the builders of the tower there is an expression of defiance against heaven. Jacob's placing of the stone - and the building of a house of God in this place in the future - is to honor God.

6. The builders of the tower begin their initiative when they "travel from the east" (12:2). Jacob goes "to the land of the people of the east" (29:1) after he vows to establish a house of God when he returns to his father's house.

7. The fear of the tower builders, "lest we be dispersed on the face of the earth" (12:4), comes to pass when God punishes them: "And God dispersed them on the face of the earth… and from there God dispersed them on the face of the earth" (12:8-9). God promises Jacob that he will bring him back to his land from the place of his exile: "And I will bring you back to this land because I will not abandon you" (29:15).

8. As in the story of the tower of Babel, in the story of the ladder, the name of the place is also elucidated. In this case the name "Beit-El" (house of God) is explained in a positive light, which expresses God's presence in that place: "…How terrible is this place! This is none other then the house of the Lord …" (verse 17), "And called the name of that place Beit El" (verse 19), "and this stone which I have placed as a monument will be the house of God" (verse 22).

9. And most importantly for our discussion: Jacob continues and declares that the place where an aperture was opened for him to see God and his angels ascending and descending on the ladder is the "gate of heaven" (verse 18). This is a clear expression of polemic against the Babylonian outlook, who saw their city in this way, since the name "Babel" was explained by the Babylonians as the "gate of God" (bab-ili) or "the gates of the gods" (bab- il?ni), in other words "the gate of heaven".

10. Our story declares that the gate of heaven is found in the land of Israel and not in the land of Shen'ar, in Beit-El and not in Babylon; a place where the believer expressed thanksgiving to his God who was revealed to him and not a place where man wished to conquer God's dwelling place. Babylon is no longer worthy of the name "gate of heaven" and it now refers to Beit-El.

Transfer of the place of "the gate of heaven" from Babylon to Beit-El is not the conclusion of the process. In the story of the threshing floor of Arvana, the story of the dedication of Jerusalem in the days of David, as it is told in the book of Divrei Hayamim (Chronicles), we find a verse that has no parallel in chapter 24 of Shmuel II, which is the original source for the compiler of Divrei Hayamim: "And David said: This is the house of God and this is the sacrificial altar for Israel" (Divrei Hayamim I 22:1). The phraseology is very similar to that of Jacob in the story of the ladder ("This is none other than the house of the Lord and this is the gate of heaven" [verse 17]), and it seems that this is an attempt to identify various places of ceremonial significance, Beit-El and Jerusalem, as one place.

This notion is mentioned later in the Midrash. There it is told that Jacob went to "Mount Moriah … and he lay down to sleep there because the sun had set … and he awoke suddenly with great fear and said: This is the house of the Holy One, blessed be He, in this place it was said 'this is the gate of heaven'". After Jacob erects a monument, "what does the Holy One, blessed be He, do? He put his right foot down firmly and pushed the stone down to the depths of the earth … and on it the temple of God stands as it is written "and this stone which I have placed as a monument will be the house of God" (Pirkey D'Rabi Eliezer, chapter 35).

Read More: http://www.jafi.org.il/education/torani/nehardeah/vayeitzeh.html

Is the Stone of Scone or Jacob's Pillow/Pillar stone a cornerstone or a keystone of Solomon's Temple or from the Tower of Babel/Babylon?

Are we talking about the same stone, the Coronation Stone, that used to be in Westminster Abbey, London? From where the British-Israel World Federation Rules. Are they part of the lost tribes of Israel, now under a banner of the United Kingdom of Heaven?

A sidenote: Does this have anything to do with the The Tower of (Baby)London? (Sacrificial Altar)

In an article I found, they ask the question "Is London the New Jerusalem, the City of Revelation?":

London's Ancient Sacred Sites are Located in a Very Significant Pattern
For the last eighteen years, the author has been researching the relationships between London's oldest ancient sacred sites. Their locations define a huge pattern of sacred geometry on the landscape: A vast and beautiful design covering the whole of greater London. Its main alignments link to other ancient sites the length and breadth of the land.

A monumental discovery, like finding another stonehenge beneath oxford circus

The basis of these patterns is a temple groundplan. It is the most important construction of sacred geometry and one that has been used in the design of temples throughout the centuries. Indeed, the oldest example of its use is in the construction of Stonehenge. To find exactly the same design, but at a much larger scale, hidden within the London landscape is startling to say the least. To find that it is defined by some of London's most important ancient sites, Westminster Abbey, St. Paul's Cathedral, The Tower of London and others too numerous to name here, is astonishing evidence that this discovery has a firm foundation in reality.

Is London the New Jerusalem, the City of Revelation?

The Earthstars geometry is of immense significance, incorporating a harmonic relationship with the structure and dimensions of the Earth and Moon. This has been noted previously by no less an authority on these subjects than John Michell who also associates this geometric construction with the measures and proportions attributed to The City of Revelation, the New Jerusalem, described by St. John in The book of Revelation. Remarkably, this is an unusual confirmation of William Blake's visions of Jerusalem within London's spiritual dimensions.

Since the City of Revelation is said to appear at the end of the age, perhaps it is no concidence that this discovery has come to light at the turning point of the millenium. Rather worryingly, it is more likely to be environmentalists who warn us that the end is nigh these days, rather that visionaries like St, John or William Blake.

Read More: http://www.earth-stars.com/visions.htm

The Rennes Le Chateau Connection

There is a legend that the Knights Templar smuggled out a treasure they excavated from under the Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem (where Solomon Temple once was). This treasure eventually ended up at Rennes le Chateau in Southern France, with some kind of connection to the Cathars (another lost tribe?).

We had read about the statement “This place is terrible” above the church door, which is a quote from The Book of Genesis, specifically the story in which the patriarch Jacob falls asleep on a stone and has a vision of a ladder leading up to Heaven, with angels ascending and descending upon it. This stone is the same as the Stone of Destiny brought to Scotland by the prophet Jeremiah, and it became the stone upon which British monarchs are coronated to this very today. What is noteworthy is that beneath the words “This place is terrible” on the doorway, we have the rest of the quote from Genesis: “This is the house of God and the gateway to Heaven.” It is thus not a curse but a statement upon the dual nature of divinity. This is actually how the quote from We also found quite a bit of iconography etched over the doorway that has not been previously noted, including two Templar crosses, two Crosses of Lorraine, and the Masonic image of the “Blazing Star” which purportedly fell from the heavens to enlighten mankind.

Read more: http://www.dragonkeypress.com/articles/article_2004_10_26_4609.html

And Jacob awoke out of his sleep, and he said, Surely Jehovah is in this place; and I knew it not. And he feared, and said, How terrible is this place! this is none other than the house of God, and this is the gate of heaven.

Read more from (GENESIS 28:16-17)

Here is a link to an article that points out that there might be a profound relationship between all these places (even with connections to Mars): Mars, Rennes-le-Chateau, and the Hall of Records

Keep in mind also that the Scottish rite of Freemasonry probably are directly spawned out of the Knights Templar who fled to Rosslyn, Scotland and built the Rosslyn Chapel. They fled due to the catholic church.

The Above article from wikipedia on Stone of Scone states: "It was originally supposed to have been used as the Coronation Stone of the early Dalriada Scots when they lived in Ireland. When they invaded Caledonia, it is said to have been taken with them for that use. Another theory states that the stone was actually the travelling altar used by St Columba (Illuminati Warning) in his missionary activities throughout what is now Scotland."

Could there be a Phoenician/Canaanite connection to the Dalriada Scots or the Picts and therefore to Solomon’s Temple?

The Phoenician king Hiram of Tyre (989-936 BC) built a palace for David and two palaces and a temple for Solomon. The Bible provides a vast amount of information about them.

David’s Palace - King Hiram of Tyre sent a trade mission to David; he provided him with cedar logs and with stonemasons and carpenters to build a palace. (1 Chronicles 14:1)

Read More: http://www.lgic.org/en/phoenicians.php

Scholars have written for centuries about an ancient sea-faring people known to modem history books as the Tuatha de Danan who founded civilizations in Greece, Spain, Britain, and Ireland. Scholars now know that the word, Tuarth, means 'tribe'. Dr Gordon has also established that the suffix, 'AN' was added to proper names in early times to signify a people or community. Thus, the name of these important early European colonists should be translated, the 'tribe of Dan.' Was this the Biblical people, one of the twelve tribes of Israel?

...Bold scholars see the influence of the Danites in Irish folk lore ... and in the name of Danmark (Denmark): the land of Dan

Early antiquarian scholar, Aylett Sammes, published his extensive research in 1676 in a work entitled, THE ANTIQUITIES OF ANCIENT BRITAIN DERIVED FROM THE PHOENICIANS. He pointed out (p. 58) that the Danites were also known in British history as 'Damnonii,'but that 'the transposition is very easy and usual, and hides not at all the original, Dan.'The Danites settled especially in southwestern Britain's 'Phoenician' tin districts, he says, adding that in this area many rivers, cities, and hills have names compounded with the tribal name, 'Dan.'

...Britannia, from the Phoenician,'Baratanac, a country of tin. Metals such as tin and lead were mined and exported from the west coasts of Cornwall and the Scilly islands.'...

Read More: http://www.1335.com/sea.html

Would you believe these are you (Isaiah says; to the "isles afar off")? Are they descendents of the British Isles, Ireland, the countries of northwest Europe, the United States and even Japan?

One important link/key is the term Scythians (Celts); "the people who dwell in booths".

Scythians (Iranians) & Celts (Scots & Picts) Are they the same?


Read More on this: Origins of the Picts & Scots

Did the prophet Jeremiah (a Chief of Iber) die in Ireland?

Did he travel there in 583-560 BC from Egypt around the same time of the destruction of Jerusalem, with: the scribe Baruch, Ebed-Melech, Tea Tephi (daughter of Zedekiah & heir to the throne-line of Pharez), and the son of the king of Ireland who had been in Jerusalem at the time of the siege? Did Jeremiah come to Ireland to build the nation Israel in the Isles of the West and to plant the royal line of David upon Israels throne in the person of Zedekiahs daughter, Tea Tephi? Tea Tephi is the name of the most celebrated queen in early Irish history. With her the lion came into Irish heraldry, an emblem of the Israelites, but especially of the tribe of Judah. With Tea Tephi also a most remarkable 400 pound stone came to Ireland called the Lia Fail, or stone wonderful, or Stone of Scone upon which the Irish line of kings were crowned until about 500 A.D. Thereafter it was carried to Scotland and used as coronation stone there till 1296 A.D. Then Edward I carried it to Westminster Abbey where it has been ever since, until just recently when it was returned to Scotland, as the Coronation Stone of Great Britain.

Tea Tephi married the Irish monarch, Eiochaid, the Heremonn, thus joining the Pharez and Zarah branches of Judahs royal line, and from them through the Irish and Scotch line of kings one can trace the descent to George VI and show that Davids line did not lapse for Yahweh keep His covenant of salt. (2 Chronicles 13:5)

Was Jeremiah the elderly white-haired patriarch, sometimes referred to as a "saint," who came ashore in Ulster in Irish tradition? Wasn't Jeremiah the grandfather of King Zedekiah (last king of Judah); and thus, God's Trustee of the Bloodline and the Throne of David? From these sources we learn that about 565 B.C., soon after Jeremiah and the kings daughters disappeared in eastern history, there appeared in Ireland at Tara, the seat of the Irish kings, a remarkable and mysterious personage, a prophet named Ollam Fola, who instituted a school of prophets in Ireland. From the number of Hebrew words connected with this mysterious personage he is shown to have been a Hebrew prophet. The only Hebrew prophet who disappeared with any such mission as would take him to the Isles of the West, was Jeremiah, whose bust is in Dublin Castle. The name of Jeremiah remains everywhere in those parts even today.

Could a female further the bloodline?

Did Jeremiah bring the ancient Jewish coronation stone to Ireland (was the throne then overturned 3 times, and now is in London?)?

Was it moved three times (finally to England) in fulfillment of Ezekiel's prophecy mentioned in chapter 21, verses 25-27? Did St. Andrew journey to Scotland? Is Israel today Ephraim? Is Britain and the United States Manasseh?

Legend says Ireland was already populated by Hebrews before Jeremiah's arrival. Long prior to 700 B.C. another strong colony called "Tuatha de Danaan" (tribe of Dan) arrived in ships, drove out other tribes, and settled there. Later, in the days of David, a colony of the line of Zarah arrived in Ireland from the Near East. In light of this, imagine how fruitful the Irish potato famine has proven to be.... Or, is all the above a fabrication started via a book ("England the Remnant of Judah." London, 1861) by British-Israel expositor named Rev. F.R.A. Glover who combined two different people Tea and Tephi from two different time periods? Is the Worldwide Church of God behind furthering this confusion? Or, is it all true??

Read More: http://www.bibleprobe.com/lost.htm

The Book of Tephi, Queen of Tara and Gibraltar
Teia Tephi was the daughter (Tender Twig) of the king of Jerusalem (the Cedar) whom Jeremiah went forth to PLANT in Ireland after the ROOTING-OUT and DESTRUCTION of Zedekiah, the king of Jerusalem in c. 588 B.C.

The Book of Tephi describes in detail the journey Jeremiah took with Teia Tephi, The Lia Fail (Stone of Destiny) and The Ark of The Covenant from Jerusalem to Ireland, via Tanis in Egypt (as in "Raiders of The Lost Ark") then on to Gibraltar (where she was proclaimed queen of the Gadite Israelites who live there); Breogan in Spain; Cornwall and eventually landing at Howth, near Dublin, in Ireland on the 18th. of June 583 B.C.

The Book then goes on to describe many of the significant events which occurred at that time in history and are associated with her journey from Jerusalem to Ireland. It is also full of Prophecies about many of the major events which have occurred in the world between her and our time (2,500 years); including the First-Coming of Christ and the colonizing of the world by the British Empire. The Book also gives some very significant prophecies about the times we now live in.

Perhaps the most relevant of her Prophecies, which is the only one in "The Book of Tephi, queen of Tara and Gibraltar" that remains to be fulfilled, is about this (our) time in history when she predicts that she would be recovered from her subterranean tomb on The Hill of Tara, in Co. Meath, Ireland; along with The Ark of The Covenant and once again bring peace and unity to all of Ireland as she had done two and a half thousand years ago; and that Christ would come out of her tomb with her, to be inaugurated King of all of Ireland, on the Stone of Destiny, at Tara, and this time, also bring peace and unity to the whole world.

http://jahtruth.net/tephi.htm
Why is there a Jewish Star/Star of David (Magen David) or Shield of David, Solomon's Seal on the Ulster Flags symbols and emblems of Northern Ireland?

The Orange Order is another name for the same Ulster separatist movement. It's a freemasonic protestant movement of Northern Ireland with William of Orange as the "hero". See: the Grand Orange Lodge of Ireland for more.

Do you remember the Israeli "Orange" revolt? Very similar to Ukraine's "Orange Revolution" with Viktor Yushchenko as front man.

There is a message here folks!

Considering the whole British-Israel Word Federation thingy going on, I find all these connections very interesting.

Is there a connection between these geographical locations? Are they trying to unite the lost tribes and set up a United Kingdom of God? What's the plan here?

More investigation is needed!

More Links: Stone of Destiny

The Lia Fail - Bethel - Stone of Destiny - Jacob's Pillar (Video)

Lia Fail

Jacob's ladder

Rennes-Discovery.com

Rosslyntemplars.org.uk

Lost Tribes of Israel & The Stone of Scone

British-Israel Word Federation

The Lost Tribes of the House of Israel

The Coronation Stone

Orange Order

Google pictures search: Rennes le Chateau

pennycat
28-03-2008, 05:01 AM
So there.

cataleptik
17-04-2008, 07:56 PM
i love pretending to be neutral to move things forward.

the center, the middle way, the balance point, those are strongest anyway
when things are turgid or "chaotic"



so: people who really had access to this heavenly "source" stuff,
they could do world changing acts of great good. is it happening?

is it definitely NOT happening. basically: where are the miracles?


thats all i wanted to say. and to bump this thread up, of epochal significance.

"this is the dawning of the age of your hairy ass"

("Fnord,")

phoebe
18-04-2008, 02:53 PM
Imposter!
I've seen the Da Vinci Code, and
I know for a fact that it's Sophie Neveau, not you!
:p

synergy777
23-04-2008, 03:32 PM
http://www.thevesselofgod.com/theluciferianlegacy.html

The Luciferian Legacy

“[The] Serpent is also the wise word of Eve. This is the mystery of Eden: this is the river that flows out of Eden. This is also the mark that was set on Cain… [and] this serpent is also he who appeared in the latter days in human form at the time of Herod…”

- Hippolytus

The Mark of Cain

A few years back, workers toiling in an underground chamber beneath a medieval cathedral in Geneva, Switzerland uncovered a strange mosaic tile floor, thought to be of great antiquity. The mosaic depicted an icon beloved by the Merovingians: the Black Sun. The Priory of Sion claims that one of its principle commandaries is in Geneva, and if so, this may be it. For hidden away in the cathedral’s recesses, far from public view, is one of Christendom’s strangest set of relics: a plate and cup connected to the legends of Cain, Solomon, Christ, and Lucifer.

In an ancient variation on Biblical tradition, the so-called “mark of Cain” - believed to have been inflicted upon Adam’s first son - is said to have been caused by a stone that fell from Lucifer’s crown during the war in Heaven and bounced off Cain‘s forehead. According to this lore, the mark was in the shape of a red serpent. The jewel from Lucifer’s crown became a sacred relic, and was handed down dynastically from father to son, eventually coming into the possession of King Solomon. He hired a master craftsman to carve the huge stone into a plate and drinking vessel. According to this same legend, these very utensils were later used by Christ at the Last Supper. This story, bizarre though it may be, is emblematic of the unambiguously Luciferian symbolism that recurs constantly in regards to lore of the Grail bloodline - symbolism that has been consciously cultivated by the Merovingians throughout their history.

The Melusine

Among the most overtly Luciferian lore relating to the Grail bloodline is the strange saga of Melusine, a woman said to be half-human and half-serpent. Her father was reputedly Godfroi de Bouillon, former King of Jerusalem (or “Defender of the Holy Sepulcher”, as he preferred to be called), and prime mover behind the formation of both the Priory of Sion and the Knights Templar. It was due to de Bouillon - a descendant of Jesus Christ, King David, and the historical figure of Lohengrin - that the Templars adopted the Cross of Lorraine as their esoteric emblem. This symbol is known in Germany as the Cross of Lothringen, or Lohengrin (the origin of the name “Lorraine”), and was said to have been emblazoned upon Lohengrin’s shield. Godfroi was succeeded as King of Jerusalem by his brother Baldwin, who in turn was succeeded by Fulk the Black, a member of the prominent Angevin dynasty. It was Fulk who married Godfroi’s daughter, the mythical Melusine. As the story goes, upon her betrothal to Fulk, Melusine made a very unusual request. She agreed to marry him, but only upon this strange condition: that one night per week, on the Sabbath, she was to be allowed absolute solitude and privacy. On this night her husband was neither to speak to her, nor to enter her bedchambers. Fulk agreed to the bizarre codicil, and by all reports they shared a very happy union for the first several years.

In time, however, Fulk’s curiosity began to get the best of him. He wondered why his lovely bride required time apart from him, and what exactly she did on those nights. Unable to resist the temptation, Fulk burst into her bedroom one of these nights, only to be confronted by a terrifying visage. His wife had transformed herself into a figure that was half-serpent. The entirety of her lower extremities took on the appearance of a massive, bluish-white colored snake. Melusine was so horrified at being discovered that she keeled over dead. It was said that her ghost (in half-serpent form) haunted the site thereafter, and could be heard late at night, slithering about behind the locked door.

In a variation on this tale, Fulk was said instead to have peered through the keyhole of his wife’s chambers on one of her private nights. Inside he saw Melusine sitting in a bath, her body covered with scales from the waist down, her legs having turned into the tail of a fish. Deeply disturbed by what he had seen, Fulk was eventually compelled to question his wife. Upon learning that her trust had been violated, Melusine departed, never to be seen again.

As bizarre as such tales are, many European monarchs took great pride in citing Melusine in their family trees. In fact, according to Sabine Baring-Gould’s Myths of the Middle Ages, a number of royal families altered their genealogies in order to claim descent from the “illustrious” serpent lady. Her story became wildly popular in France, Germany and Spain, and for a time was seldom out of print.

In the early, happy days of Melusine’s marriage, she gave birth to a son, Geoffrey de Anjou. Geoffrey would eventually grow up to be the first Plantagenet King of England. Present at Geoffrey's birth was Bernard of Clairvaux, the famous Cistercian abbot, and yet another founding father of the Knights Templar. Upon first seeing the baby Geoffrey, Bernard made this strange pronouncement: “From the Devil he has come, and to the Devil he’ll return.” Though the Melusine saga may have been a beloved tale in parts of Europe, such was not the case everywhere. The tale seems to have been equally well-known in England, but not equally well-liked. In his book The Conquering Family, Thomas B. Costain writes:

“The counts of Anjou and their lovely but wicked wives gained such an unsavory reputation over the centuries that the people of England were appalled when they found that one of them (Geoffrey) was to become King of England.”

This notwithstanding, the House of Plantagenet provided England with some of its most noteworthy monarchs, many of whom admitted to having a soft spot in their hearts for their mythical matriarch, Melusine. Richard the Lionhearted even cited his purportedly Luciferian heritage as being the reason why his family “lacked the natural affections of mankind.”

The story of Melusine had such an impact on the French psyche that to this very day in some parts of France, “Melusines” (ginger cookies shaped like a woman with serpent’s tail) are sold on May Day. The fact that so many people have seemingly taken this unusual tale at face value seems rather unfathomable to the modern mind. Stranger still, why would a family putatively descended from Christ and King David so publicly include in their family tree the figure of a woman half-human and half-serpent?

It would appear that due to the highly improbable nature of this tale, it has been dismissed entirely by scholars and historians as pure folklore. Yet the members of this family (the Grail family) are no strangers to the adroit implementation of symbolism. Never has their use of symbolism been gratuitous. It is employed to reveal to the initiated precisely what it conceals from the uninitiated. And the imagery associated with Melusine is very specific in its connotations: it refers to the patriarch Adam’s first wife Lillith, who is depicted in cabalistic tradition as a naked human female with a serpent’s tail for her lower half. For us, this suggests that the Merovingians were consciously trying to keep alive an esoteric tradition - one which holds great secrets relating to the true nature of their sacred bloodline.

Lucifer’s Children

Conventional wisdom has it that the Grail bloodline is sacred because it came from Christ, a man still considered by much of the world to be the true son of God. And yet the dynasty of kings who descended from this bloodline were known as sorcerer-kings, some of whom hinted or even stated outright that they were in fact descendants of Lucifer. A number of authors claim this thesis is true, but they are predominantly hardcore Christian conspiracy theorists, and stop well short of explaining why they believe this, or of giving any tangible details to substantiate their claims. Says author Fritz Springmeier in The Bloodlines of the Illuminati: “In typical Gnostic fashion, descendants of the Merovingians claim to have the blood of both Christ and Satan in their veins.” Given the fact that this theme (or a variation of it) recurs with some regularity, and given that it would appear to be consistent with the sort of dualism which permeats the story of this bloodline, we began to wonder if there might not be some traditions from which such a notion could have arisen. At length, several were discovered.

Firstly, let us recall that this bloodline descended from a figure who equates with the biblical Cain. In certain rabbinic lore, we come across the very interesting notion that Cain was not the son of Adam, but of Samael. It was thought that when Samael appeared to Eve as a serpent, he seduced her. The fruit of that union was Cain. Samael was a fallen angel, essentially the Judaic Lucifer. If the Merovingians knew of this version of the story (which they no doubt did), and believed it, it could be the basis of their alleged assertion that they possessed the blood of both Christ and Lucifer. This notion is expressed in a famous poem by Charles Peguy, which states:


“The arms of Jesus are the Cross of Lorraine,

Both the blood in the artery and the blood in the vein,

Both the source of grace and the clear fountaine;

The arms of Satan are the Cross of Lorraine,

And the same artery and the same vein,

And the same blood and the troubled fountaine.”

Some apocryphal versions of the story of Cain proclaim that he was the son of Adam and Lillith, not Eve. Before becoming Adam’s first wife, Lillith had been the consort of God before coming to Earth as a fallen angel. The full details of her story are probably too well-known to bear repeating here, but it is interesting that of the two alternate traditions concerning Cain’s parentage, both involve the Luciferian Nephilim bloodline. Also of interest is the fact that the lily is known to have taken its name from Lillith, and the heraldic device emblematic of this bloodline is the fleur-de-lys (widely accepted as symbolic of the lily). Could not this symbol, viewed within this context, in fact be the Flower of Lillith?

The Lillith/Samael connection is also pertinent in regards to our investigation because both Lillith and Samael are traditionally held to be the parents of the demon Asmodeus.1 Not only is Asmodeus the dominant image (shown mirroring Christ) in Rennes-le-Chateau, he is said to have played the central role in building the Temple of Solomon, the edifice from which the Knights Templar took their name. The recurrence of this strange figure in Grail lore has long perplexed observers, yet it would appear that both he and the descendants of Cain may in fact have shared a kindred ancestry. It is even said in some traditions that it was Asmodeus whom Moses called upon to part the Red Sea, and not God. Though portrayed as a demon or devil figure, his name reveals that he may not always have been viewed as such, for “Asmodeus” translates simply to “the Lord God.” (“Ashma” means “lord”, and “deus” means “god.”)

Luciferian imagery is implied the presence of “the Elohim” of The Book of Genesis, where they are quoted as saying: “Let us make man in our image.” The word “Elohim” is translated simply as “God” in the King James Bible, but it is clearly a plural noun, as plural words in the Hebrew language end in the letters “im.” In fact, “the Elohim” are widely believed by many researchers to be identical with the Nephilim, the fallen angels known as the Watchers in The Book of Enoch. It is believed that “Elohim” comes from the much more ancient Babylonian word, “Ellu”, which means “Shining Ones.” This phrase has a distinctively Luciferian connotation, because the name “Lucifer” literally means “lightbearer.” And the descendants of Cain, who were the deified kings of Sumeria, were sometimes called “the Ari”, a term which also meant “Shining Ones.” The Sumerian pictogram for “Ari” or “Ar”, as noted earlier, is an inverted pentagram, a symbol long associated with Lucifer. And the phrase “Shining Ones” would be a very apt description for the descendants of Enoch’s fallen angels, who were said to have hair as white as snow, pale eyes, and pale skin which seemed literally to glow and fill the room with light. The Sumerian Ari are almost always depicted as wearing crowns bearing horns, and some of their descendants were reputed in legend to have had horns. For instance, the most famous statue of Moses (that of Michelangelo) depicts him with horns atop his forehead, not wholly inappropriate for someone who may be a blood relation of Asmodeus. Theologians protest that they are not horns, but merely rays of light. Yet even rays of light suggest a Luciferian subtext. Alexander the Great declared himself the son of a god, and he too was said to have horns. In fact, to this very day, if you talk to people in certain Iranian villages (who speak of his invasion as though it happened last week), they will tell you in all solemnity Alexander had horns, and that he wore his hair long to cover this up.

One cannot but admit that Cain seems to have engendered his own tradition, as evidenced in a strange Gnostic sect called the Cainites (named after the race of Cain’s descendants). Like the Carpocrateans, the Cainites believed that no one could be saved except by “making the journey through everything.” Epiphanius describes them as a group “consecrating... lustful or illegal acts to various heavenly beings” as a sort of sacrament. Interestingly, many scholars compare them to Satanists.

The extent to which the Merovingians knew of these alternate traditions is uncertain. Whether or not they believed in them is more uncertain still, yet it remains likely that they both knew about these traditions and took them quite seriously. To this very day, the coat of arms of the capital of the Merovingian empire, Stenay, bears an image of the Devil. In fact, the original name of Stenay was “Satanicum.” And the area Rennes-le-Chateau also contains many geographical references to the Devil. In addition to the Asmodeus statue at the church, there is an ancient stone monument in Rennes-le-Bains called “the Devil’s Armchair”, and there are hundreds of years worth of local legends pertaining to the appearance of the Devil on numerous occasions.

Seeing that this Luciferian legacy played such a prominent role in the Merovingian mythos, we wondered if traces of it could be detected in the Bible and other related texts. In short order, we were able to discern an abundance of such material. What caught our attention the most were a number of stories which seemed very suggestive of the idea that certain key patriarchs were descendants of the Watchers. Take, for example, the story of Abraham, the first proselyte of monotheism, and a figure central in all three major monotheistic religions. His birth was, according to apochryphal traditions, foreseen in the stars by none other than King Nimrod, who felt threatened by the birth of Abraham, and effected a “slaughter of the innocents”-type scenario, in which 70,000 male children were put to death - in an effort to neutralize him.2 Consequently, his mother fled to the wilderness to give birth to him in a cave. As author Louis Ginzberg states in Legends of the Jews, upon Abraham’s birth, “The whole cave was filled with the light of the child’s countenance, as with the splendor of the Sun...” Compare this description with that in The Book of Enoch, where it was said that Lamech’s son Noah, “...illuminated all the house, like the Sun; the whole house abounded with light.”

A further indication that Abraham was of the Nephilim bloodline is that according to this version of the story, Abraham’s mother left him in that cave alone for twenty days, and upon returning, she did not even recognize him because he had “grown very big.” He was as large as a full-grown man and could both speak and walk - surely an indication of some divine supernatural ancestry. In fact, later chroniclers state unambiguously that Abraham was a giant. Like certain of his illustrious forebears, Abraham was also a great builder. Legends of the Jews tells us that:

“[Abraham] built a city for [his sons through his slave Hagar], surrounded by an iron wall, so high that the sun could not shine into the city... Also Abraham taught them the black art, wherewith they held sway over demons and spirits.”

Here we have a preeminent biblical patriarch as a practicioner of black magic, the forbidden art taught to man by the Watchers. And Abraham is not unique in this regard. Later figures such as Moses and Solomon were also said to be sorcerers. If three of the most important Old Testament figures were practicioners of the black arts, might not one reasonably conclude that an occult doctrine or tradition was perhaps central to the creed that eventually evolved into Judaism, and later Christianity? We will explore this idea (and the figure of Abraham) in greater depth later on, but first we will revisit the story of Jacob.

It was the tale of Jacob’s Ladder that provided the point of departure for most of our subsequent research, and we have since discovered alternate versions of the tale in which the symbolism is much more vivid. For example, in an apocryphal book called The Ladder of Jacob, 1:1-6, we read:

“He found a place and laying his head on a stone, he slept there, for the sun had gone down. He had a dream and behold a ladder was fixed on the earth, whose top reached to heaven. And the top of the ladder was the face of a man, carved out of fire. There were 12 steps leading to the top of the ladder, and at each step leading to the top were human faces, on the right and on the left... and the face [on top was] one of fire... [and was] exceedingly terrifying...”

The ladder in Jacob’s dream could be construed as representing a direct lineal connection between God and man, or the sons of God and man - the Nephilim patrimony of the twelve tribes of Israel fathered by Jacob. The “exceedingly terrifying” face of fire at the ladder’s apex is assumed to be God, although it could certainly be deemed a Luciferian apparition as well. The notion that the ladder represents the descent of the twelve tribes seems to be borne out by the twelve steps of the ladder, one for each of Jacob’s future sons. We find support for this idea in The Legends of the Jews, which tells Jacob’s story in greater detail.:

“Jacob took twelve stones from the altar on which his father Isaac had lain bound as sacrifice, and he said: ‘It was the purpose of God to let twelve tribes arise, but they have not been begotten by Abraham or Isaac. If now these 12 stones unite into a single one, then I shall know for a certainty that I am destined to become father of the twelve tribes.’ At this point a ... miracle came to pass; the twelve stones joined together and made one, which he put under his head, and at once it became soft and downy like a pillow... He dreamed a dream in which the course of world history was unfolded to him.”

The dream of Jacob’s Ladder is both a memory and a prophecy. It both foretells the coming of the twelve tribes, and alludes to their fallen angel lineage. In a bizarre addendum to this story, Jacob annoints the stone that served as his pillow with oil descended directly from Heaven, and then God casts the stone into “the Abyss” to serve as the cornerstone for his temple. But why would God want the cornerstone for His temple to be in the Abyss? Could it be because Jehovah’s Sumerian prototype, Ia, was known as “the Lord of the Abyss”?

The Serpent Messiah

One of the oddest symbols used frequently in reference to the Grail bloodline, and often in wildly unexpected contexts, is that of the serpent. We are all familiar with the serpent of Genesis, as the premier villian of Christian theology - the Devil himself. Consequently, the serpent has come to be viewed as emblematic of evil. How then are we to explain the strange episode, found in the Old Testament and in apocryphal Jewish legends, in which God instructs Moses to consturct a magical bronze serpent, the mere sight of which would save Israelites and bring death to their enemies? In some versions of this tale it was said that this serpent could cure men bitten by poisonous snakes. Others went so far as to say that it could actually save their souls. Biblical scholar James Kugel, commenting on the story, said this:

“The bronze serpent fashioned by Moses greatly troubled ancient interpreters. After all, a man-made object that had to power to cure snake bites if one simply looked at it - did this not smack more of magic than proper belief? What was worse, this same bronze serpent was later said to have become an object of idolotry in itself.”

The explanations arrived at by ancient interpreters are less than satisfactory. They claimed that it was not the snake which saved people, but God, and that by beholding it, they were beholding Him. But this fails to explain why a graven image was made to portray God, or why God would be symbolized as a serpent. Every conceivable aspect of this story is utterly in variance with what we know about orthodox Christianity or early Judaism. Another version of the tale, related in The Letter of Barnabas, says:

“...the Spirit, speaking to the heart of Moses, [tells him] to make a representation of the cross and of him who was to suffer upon it... Moses therefore made a graven serpent.”

This is very bizarre indeed. Not only do we have God represented as a serpent, but Christ as well. And it gets more interesting still. In the cabalistic science known as “gematria” (in which words are reduced to numbers), words sharing the same numeric value are viewed as having an identical essence on a higher level of meaning. In gematria, the words “messiah” and “serpent” can both be reduced to the same number: 358. So in cabalistic terms, the messiah and the serpent are one and the same.

For some gnostics and early Christian sects, the serpent of Genesis was viewed not as the villiain of the book, but as the hero. It was he, after all, who brought divine wisdom to man. God had told Adam not to eat the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge, for if he did he “would surely die.” But Adam and Eve did eat the fruit, and they didn’t die. In other words, God was wrong and the serpent was right. The serpent told the truth, and God had lied. Certain Gnostics and Christians thought that this was surely the intended subtext of Genesis. Evidence that they may have been correct can be seen in what amounts to an Aramaic pun. In this now-dead language, used at the time of Christ, the words for “serpent” and “to instruct” are nearly identical. The serpent had instructed Eve to eat of the Tree of Life, and in following his advice, she gained wisdom. Viewed in this light, how could the serpent not be seen as the hero of Genesis?

As previously noted, in Jewish apocrypha, there is a story in which Eve is seduced by the serpent of Eden (Samael), and it is he, not Adam, who fathers of Cain. Could this strange tradition have something to do with Moses and Christ, possibly Cain’s descendants, being connected to serpent symbolism? Perhaps. Both men were obviously privy to the traditions connected with their family - traditions that have not come down to us through mainstream Christianity. Some sects, such as the Ophite Gnostics, have promoted theologies which explicitly identify Christ with the serpent. According to author Stephen Flowers in Lords of the Left-Hand Path, these groups felt that:

“Christ came as a manifestation of the light-bearing serpent... The serpent brought humanity knowledge (gnosis) of good and evil (Genesis 3:1-7), and can further aid man in getting the fruit of eternal life, thus making man like God, or like Christ.”

Though this is purely a philosophical abstraction, it is interesting insofar as one would not logically expect to find even a single tradition in which Christ was identified as a serpent, let alone several. Yet the examples from Moses, the cabala, and the Ophite Gnostics would seem to indicate that people had some concrete reason for making such a connection. We know that for many years following the death of Moses, the bronze serpent made by him became a sacred object of idolotry for the early Israelites.

In some schools of esoteric Christianity, it is thought that the cross of Christ is synonymous with the Tree of Life. There is even a very old Latin motto which, when translated, states: “The wood of the Cross is the Tree of Knowledge.” If the cross of Christ is symbolically equal to the Tree of Life, it follows that Christ would likewise be emblematic of the serpent who dwelt in that Tree. This may explain an otherwise inexplicable but nonetheless common alchemical motif: the crucified snake. Though in the context of Christian iconography, this repreated identification of Christ with the serpent appears to make little or no sense, if one looks to religious ideas prominent well before the advent of Judaism, the symbolism is a perfect fit.

In many ancient cultures, such as Egypt, poisonous serpents were venerated. In Chaldea, they were symbols of God and of the Sun. This has caused some scholars to misconstrue the Chaldeans as being superstitious “snake worshippers”, but such is not the case. The serpent as a religious icon embodies a very high degree of sophisticated symbolism. Serpents are perhaps among the most earthbound of creatures, and yet were identified with the Sun. For the Chaldeans, this would have signified the union of Heaven and Earth, or spirit and matter. This is precisely the symbolism inherent in the notion of Christ: an intersection of attributes both heavenly and earthly, both human and divine. Because serpents shed their skin, they were associated with the idea of death and resurection, of rebirth and immortality. Once again, these are the same ideas central to the mythos of Christ.

A vestage of this so-called “serpent worship” can be found in an obscure Judaic sect called the Naasenes.3 The Naasean doctrine posited that God was a primordial hermaphrodite, as was Adam. The sect chose the serpent as a representation of God because it was thought that snakes possessed both sexes, and thus the power of self-generation. It was a creature like unto God. Is it possible that Christ, the serpent messiah, was a Naasene? Perhaps. It can be shown that the moniker “Jesus of Nazareth” is a misnomer, since the town of Nazareth did not exist at the time of Christ, which is why some protestant churches now refer to him as “Jesus the Nazarene” instead. The authors of Holy Blood, Holy Grail have speculated that Jesus was a Nazorean, another obscure Jewish sect of whom Samson was a follower. But given the serpent imagery found in alternate traditions of the life of Christ, might not the “Naasene hypothesis” be every bit as likely? After all, it was prophecized that the messiah would take the form of a serpent as early as the time of The Book of Exodus.

That there is a conncetion between the Naasean tradition and that of Chaldea seems highly likely. Chaldea’s deified kings were associated symbolically with both the Sun and the serpent, and were viewed to be “sons of the Sun”, or sons of God. The solar/serpentine motif shows up in the names of many ancient gods and kings, including some central to our own investigation. The name “Marduk” can be translated as “Son of the Sun” of “Son of the Lord”, as “duk” means both “sun” and “lord”, but “mar” can also mean “serpent”, giving this title the alternate meaning “Serpent of the Sun”, or “Serpent of the Lord.” As you may recall, the name of the South American tutelary deity “Quetzlcoatl” is also said to mean “Serpent of the Sun.” In ancient Egypt the word for “serpent” was “sir”, which allows us to translate “Osiris” as “Sun Serpent Lord.” And the name of the Chaldean tutelary deity “Oannes” can be translated into the nearly identical “Sun Lord Serpent.” Furthermore, you will recall that the South American god “Noach Yum Chac” (obviously connected with Noah) is supposed to have written a text titled Proof that I am a Serpent.

Though the serpent imagery is obviously mere symbolism, it nonetheless constitutes a symbol central to the identity of the Watchers and their offspring - one taken seriously by them, as it would later be by the Merovingians. Could it be a symbol of their heritage, derived from some illustrious (or perhaps sacred) forebear, a figure intimately connected to the idea of the solar serpent, perhaps one of the Chadeans’ deified kings? It is quite possible. If this were the case, it would explain the legend of the serpent fathering Cain. You will note that the serpent heritage which was such a matter of pride for the god-kings of other cultures was a cause for shame in the context of Judaism. In the Judeo-Christian version of events, the Original Sin is miscegenation, not disobedience. Could it be that the woman presented in all monotheistic religions as the primordial matriarch was in fact seduced by a Chaldean king? The name “Samael” may hold some clues. It consists of “Sam”, which means “Sun”, and “ael”, which means “Son of God.” So Samael is a serpent who represents both the Sun and the Son of God, precisely the symbolism associated with Chaldean kings. Is this the reason that Cain, a man remembered by other cultures as a mighty king and a builder of great cities, was villianized and written out of the Old Testament almost entirely? Very possibly so.

It is assumed that Cain’s bloodline disappeared from Biblical events at the same time he vanished East of Eden, and that subsequent patriarchs derived their descent from Adam’s “third son”, Seth. However, a close examination of the genealogies connected to Cain and Seth reveals that such may not be the case. Except for a few extra names added to the list of Seth’s descendants, the two genealogies are nearly identical.

Cain’s descendants are: Enoch, Irad, Mahujael, Methusael, Lamech.

Seth’s descendants are: Enos, Cainan, Mhalaleel, Jared, Enoch, Mathuselah, Lamech

The correspondances should be obvious: “Jared” is “Irad”, “Mathuselah” is “Mahujael”, and so on. Both lists contain “Lamech”, and both contain “Enoch” (with an additional “Enos” to further confuse things.) It is as though the authors are retaining the true history, yet falsifying it just enough to throw off all but the most attentive reader. And indeed, the similarities have not passed unnoticed. Many Biblical scholars have commented on these odd genealogies, some suggesting that the one descending from Seth was an obvious fabrication, and that such a figure probably never existed. Cain had to be written out of Jewish history for some reason, but this task must have been quite difficult, because he was a very famous figure in the ancient world, known for having erected great cities across the length and breadth of Sumer and Chaldea. He built Ninevah, Erech, Agade (Akkad), and Lagash. He was looked to as a founding father by nations and cultures that seemingly had no connection to Jewish history. He built Babylon, and Babylonians were generally viewed as the natural-born enemies of the Jewish nation. Curiously, he appears to be a figure both central to Jewish history, and perplexingly outside of it.

There is perhaps more written in the Bible about Cain under his guise as King Nimrod of Babylon than there is written about Cain proper. The historical figure of Nimrod can, as we have shown, be conclusively identified with Cain, and like Cain, he is another character roundly demonized in the Old Testament. (He is also portrayed as having lived long after the time of Cain, something we clearly disagree with.) In early Jewish and Christian texts he is depicted as a fierce tyrant, a giant who hunted humans, and a king who “waged war against God.” But in the kingdoms he left behind he was worshipped as a god centuries after his death, and later kings would claim to be Nimrod reincarnated.

The Chaldean Connection

The genealogy of the Merovingian bloodline has for centuries been shrouded in mystery, and yet, we have been able to definitively trace it back to the Shepherd Kings of ancient Sumer. Subsequently, we have managed to fine-tune the focus of our investigation further still and many indications (both ancient and modern) seem to suggest that the role played by Chaldea was of pivotal importance. For instance, in The Book of Genesis, we are told that the Biblical patriarch Abraham was “a Chaldean from Ur.” For most readers, this seemingly insignificant factoid would undoubtedly slip by unnoticed, but to the student of ancient cultures, it is pregnant with portent, because Chaldea was known to be a Mecca of astronomy, astrology, and the black arts. So much so, in fact, that the word “Chaldean” in many ancient cultures was synonymous with “sorcerer.” Even so far away as Northern Europe, their term for sorcerer, “galdyr”, was rooted in “Chaldee.” The authors of Genesis obviously did their utmost to distance the figure of Abraham from the occult traditions of Chaldea, yet Abraham still appears to be an occultist both in biblical and extra-biblical texts. Note the following quote from Pseudo Eupolemus:

“Abraham excelled all in nobility and wisdom; he sought and obtained the knowledge of astrology and the Chaldean craft... he traveled to Phoenicia and dwelt there. He pleased the Phoenician king by teaching the Phoenicians the cycles of the Sun and Moon, and everything else as well... [in Egypt] Abraham lived in Heliopolis with the Egyptian priests and taught them much: He explained astrology and the other sciences to them.”


From Artapanus:

“Abraham... came to Egypt with all his household to the Egyptian king Pharothothes and taught him astrology.”


And from Josephus’ Antiquities of the Jews:

“...before the coming of Abraham, the Egyptians were ignorant of these sciences, which thus traveled from the Chaldeans into Egypt, [and then] passed to the Greeks.”

It is clear from these quotes that Abraham travelled far and wide not to preach the gospel of the “one true God”, but rather to spread the wisdom of the Chaldean craft. These Chaldean sciences seem to echo the teachings of the Watchers, and pertained to geometry, astronomy, and the movements of the planets and stars. Compare the lore of the Watchers to what Philo records about the Chaldeans:

“The Chaldeans exercised themselves most especially with astronomy, and attributed all things to the movement of the stars, believing that whatever is in the world is governed by forces encompassed in numbers and numerical proportions... seeking out the numerical arrangement according to the cycles of the Sun and Moon, the planets, and the fixed stars… .”


The parallels between the Watchers and the Chaldeans become greater still when viewed in the light of a tradition cited by Eusebius, who wrote: “Abraham traced his ancestry to the giants. These dwelt in the land of Babylonia. Because of their impiety, they were destroyed by the gods.” So there you have it. These two traditions (of the Watchers and of the Chaldeans) sound so identical because they are identical - one and the same. Were the Chaldeans the descendants of the Watchers, and executors of their tradition? Such an idea is certainly reinforced by the fact that the Hebrew word for “Watcher” is “Ir”, which sounds similar to the name of the Chaldean city “Ur”, as well as “Ar”, the Sumerian word mentioned previously that is symbolized by the pentagram (and means “Shining Ones”). Also, the Watchers were called specifically, “the watchers of the heavens”, a very appropriate title for a people (like the Chaldeans) so preoccupied by astronomy. Could it be that Ur was the primordial city-state of the Watchers? Very possibly. Ur is considered so ancient that to the modern mind it has become synonymous with antiquity itself. All of this would appear to suggest that Abraham’s status as a Chaldean from Ur may indeed be very telling. It also seems that Abraham is far more than merely a man who “traced his ancestry to the giants.” Remember, it was said that “Abraham excelled all in nobility and wisdom.” In ancient times “nobility” did not refer to a man’s demeanor - it meant of noble birth. And as we will ultimately reveal, the figure known as Abraham was of very noble birth indeed.

For the time being however, we will continue our study of the Chaldean saga by looking into the story of King Gudia. Though one of the most illustrious of the Sumerian/Chaldean monarchs, Gudia remains a relatively obscure personage in terms of mainstream history. Gudia was both priest-king and architect, a builder of great cities and temples, not unlike Cain/Nimrod. And it just so happens that Nimrod was Gudia’s patron saint, as well as having been his ancestor. Gudia was like many of the Old Testament prophets, in that he was prone to dreams and vision. In one such dream, Nimrod himself appeared to the king, revealing to him the blueprints of a temple he wished to be erected in his honor. Upon waking, Gudia lost no time setting in motion plans to construct the Temple of Nimrod, a structure that would eventually be seen as one of the most magnificant edifices of its day.

The reign of Gudia witnessed a flourishing of culture and civilization in his region. He wandered the full length and breadth of Mesopotamia (and often beyond) to amass lumber, blocks, and precious metals for his many projects. He not only built new cities and temple, but rebuilt old ones as well. Ruling from his capitols of Lagash and Ur, he preferred not to be seen as a king, but rather as a priest and prophet. He was known simply as the “Good Shepherd”, and may in fact have refused the title of king (although his name does appear in the King’s List.)

Of all the many kings that reigned over Chaldea or Sumer, only a handful of their names are known outside of specialist circles, or from readings of the Old Testament. Those that come to mind are Sargon, Kamurabi, Assurbanipal, and a few others. Why, then (or how) could a man of Gudia’s stature have simply vanished into the mists of history? A possible answer was suggested upon reading that in Gudia’s time and culture there were no letters equivalent to “G” or “I.” Substituting the closest equivalent to those letters results in something both startling and altogether unexpected: Judea.

Is it be possible that Judah, the son of Jacob from whom Jews derive their name, could in fact have been a Chaldean priest-king? Are Gudia and Judah one and the same? Turning to the Old Testament in search of information that would either corroborate or disprove altogether such a bizarre thesis revealed passages so scant and so strange as to be of no help whatsoever in either regard. Further searches in Josephus’ Antiquities of the Jews and Louis Ginzberg’s Legends of the Jews proved equally fruitless. How could a man from whom the entire Jewish tribe adopted their name be so little documented in three such major works documenting Jewish history and folklore? It was both perplexing and mysterious, like trying to conceive of a New Testament that featured only a half-dozen off-handed references to Christ. It defied all logic. And it seemed that logic was the only means left to pierce this apparent conspiracy of silence.

So it was that the ancient Chaldean King’s List was consulted again, the reasoning being that if Gudia and Judah were the same figure, perhaps other names in close proximity on the list might have a familiar ring. Four lines above Gudia on the list was a king named “Irarum.” Though not precisely identical to “Abraham”, it was the only name on the list with so familiar a ring to it. Remember that these names were not only spelled and pronounced differently from culture to culture, but also often in the same culture. Irarum had a son named “Dar”, who also went by the title “Asahk” (literally, “Son of God”). Asahk’s son was “Khab” (or “Khabulum”), and his son in turn took the royal title “Akhab” (“Son of Khab”). He in turn fathered Gudia. So if we take into account the sound of these names in their respective order, we arrive at something quite extraordinary:


“Irarum” is the same as “Abraham”

“Asahk” is the same as “Issac”

“Akhab” is the same as “Jacob”

“Gudia” is the same as “Judah”


So with one notable exception (the extra figure of “Khab” or “Khabulum”), we find in the Chaldean King’s List an almost perfect reflection of the Old Testament line of patriarchs.

At this point it is virtually impossible to ascertain what any of this really means. Were the Chaldeans all Jews? Were the people who called themselves Jews really Chaldeans? Were both merely different nations or tribes of an essentially Sumerian populace? Could it be that the so-called “Shepherdic Jews” were not so named because they had been shepherds, but because they claimed descent from a priest-king known as the “Good Shepherd”? Remember that this was the same title used to refer to Christ, who acted in the capacity of a priest-king without a throne. Christ, too, is said in some early traditions to have been a Chaldean, an idea we will explore in due course.

The Chaldean tradition, and its secret gnosis, is intimately linked with astronomy, astrology, geometry, architecture, and magic; all topics central to our ongoing inquiries. But there’s more. It was said that Gudia practiced the “Chaldean rite” of bull sacrifice - a practice that passed from Chaldea to Egypt, and eventually, to many parts of the ancient world. Significantly, this rite is said to have originated in Atlantis, and Gudia, like the Atlantean kings, kept the sacrificial bulls in his own palace. Further, when Gudia’s ancestor appeared to him in a vision and gave him specifications for the construction of a magnificent temple, the building thus erected was a seven-stepped ziggurat. Legend tells us that an identical structure once existed as the royal palace on Atlantis.

By reviving Atlantean architecture and religious ritual, Gudia seemed to be trying to build a bridge between the past and the present, or to reconstitute the past in the present. His chosen title, “Gudia” (“Lord/King Ia”) harkens back to Sumer’s first deified king. Within two centuries of his death, Babylonians worshipped him as the “Divine Gudia”, and put statues of him in their temples. The reign of Gudia is reckoned by some scholars to have been around 2400 BC. By the time Judaism began to coalesce some 900 years later, Gudia and his illustrious forebears would have become mythic figures in an oral tradition. Though there is little proof beyond what we have presented to link the figures of Gudia and Judah, there are references to Judah being a ruling king in rabbinic lore, including descriptions of a crown, royal scepter, and royal signet ring. And although orthodox Judaism seems to have rejected most of what constitutes the Chaldean tradition, there are indications that these ideas were preserved on a sub rosa level, to reemerge later in a most unexpected context.


Christ the Chaldean

And did those feet in ancient time

Walk upon England’s mountain green?

And was the Holy Lamb of God

On England’s pleasant pastures seen?

- William Blake, Jerusalem


As the above lines from William Blake’s 18th century poem Jerusalem reveal, the tradition that Christ came to England is one that is both widespread and long-standing. Indeed, Roman chroniclers began referring to it as early as the reign of Tiberius Caesar, who died in 37 AD (only four short years after the presumed date of Christ’s own death). It was in Glastonbury, Cornwall, that the first Christian church was built, purportedly by Christ himself.

For those unfamiliar with the story, it is well-documented that Christ’s uncle, Joseph of Arimathea made frequent trips to England in the course of his travels as a tin merchant. As the story goes, Jesus often accompanied his uncle on these journeys, and ended up spending a good deal of time in Cornwall during his well-known “lost years.” It was here that he conducted the early years of his ministry, and legend records that he constructed a rather large house for the habitation of his mother, Mary. It was this house which, pursuant to the crucifixion, became recognized as the first Christian church in the world. And this first Christian church was known by a number of names, such as “the wattle church”, “the old church”, and perhaps most significantly, “the Culdee church.” In other words, “the Chaldean church.”

In Thomas Campbell’s Reullura, we read:

“The pure Culdees

Were Alby’s4 earliest priests of God

Ere yet an island of her seas

By foot of Saxon monk was trod.”


In E. Raymond Capt’s marvelous book The Traditions of Glastonbury, he states: “The first converts of the Culdees... were the Druids of Britain, who found no difficulty in reconciling the teaching of the Culdees with their own teaching of the resurrection and the inheritance of eternal life.” In addition, the Druids had long believed in the coming of a messiah - a messiah named “Jesu.” They also shared the Chaldean preoccupation with sacred geometry and astronomy. And too, they had the odd habit of referring to God as “the ancient of days.” Clearly these two groups’ traditions had a shared origin of some sort. Capt continues:

“Culdees are recorded in church documents as officiating at St. Peter, York, until AD 939. According to some church authorities, the Canons of York were called ‘Culdees’ as late as the reign of Henry II (AD 1133-1189). In Ireland, a whole county was named ‘Culdee.’ The names ‘Culdee’ and ‘Culdish’ cling tenaciously to the Scottish church, and its prelates until a much later date.”

The Culdee phenomenon appears to be little known, little discussed, and even less understood. Nonetheless, over the centuries a fascinating number of theories and legends have become attached to them: theories and legends that are all the more fascinating in that they seem to overlap with much of our own research. What follows are some of the fundamental assumptions held about the Culdees, as collected and preserved by Arthur Edward Waite in his New Encyclopedia of Freemasonry:

The Culdees were Druids.

They were identical with the Chaldeans mentioned by the prophet Daniel.

They were priests in Assyria and can also be traced to Babylon.

They were Casideans, Essenes, Therapeutae, and Magi.

Beneath their cloak of Christianity they concealed a secret doctrine.

They were mathematicians and architects at the time of the early Roman emperors.

They were the builders of King Solomon’s Temple.

The Culdees of York were all Masons.

They denied the personality of Jesus - meaning the historical personality - and also the existence of the Devil.

The Culdee monks were the schoolmasters and architects of their time.

It was thought that the historical allegory of the Round Table, as well as the quest for the Holy Grail, referred in mystical terms to Culdee rites.

If the foregoing statements are indeed accurate, it would appear that there was the presence of a Templar-like fraternity in England for a full thousand years before the advent of the Knights Templar. And not just in England, but throughout the British Isles. The Culdees had commandaries, schools and churches in Wales, Ireland and Scotland as well. It is said that despite pressure from Rome, the Culdees remained a very strong presence right up to the time of the Norman conquest5, which began in 1066. The timeframe here seems highly significant, as 1066 is only a few decades before the founding of the Order of Sion and the Knights Templar by Godfroi de Bouillon in 1090.

Is it purely coincidental that an organization whose history spans over a thousand years should essentially vanish, and in a matter of mere decade a group whose outlook seems nearly identical should emerge in another part of the world? Most of what the historians assert about the Culdees is incredibly similar to what was said of the Templars. Let us compare: both groups were said to possess a secret doctrine which they concealed behind the facade of Christianity. Both groups denied Christ in a sense. Both groups were architects. And both groups were associated with the Holy Grail, as well as with Solomon’s Temple.

There definitely seems to be a continuity of belief, purpose and action between the two groups. Certainly the mystery surrounding both groups appears to be the same mystery. But if these two groups represent different manifestations of the same esoteric tradition, it is not simply a tradition whose origin came about after the crucifixion of Christ. The tradition can clearly be traced to the Chaldean King Gudia, and further still to his role model and patron saint, Nimrod/Cain.

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1 “Asmodeus” contains that root word, “Az”, that was yet another title of Cain.

2 According to Louis Ginzberg, Nimrod did this because he feared Abraham “would rise up against him and triumphantly give the lie to his religion” - a polytheistic cult in which Nimrod himself was worshipped as a god.

3 “Naas” is the Hebrew word for “serpent.”

4 England was then called “Albion.”

5 In other locations, such as Ireland, their influence remained strong well into the fourteenth century.

kezann
23-04-2008, 05:31 PM
Just thought I'd pip in, because I think that there are important issues being missed here. I think the wrong impression was formed about this lady because she bombarded every thread (apparently, I wasn't here then) when she made her announcement. Though I must admit that it's a very good way to make sure everyone gets the message. I can't even keep up with my own threads ffs! So you know I'd have missed it! lol

I've read a lot of what she's written. I'm printing it off to go over it in more detail. I will reserve judgement until I have the full picture.

There are many things in the bit that I read, though, that are incredibly true.

I'll put a few bits at the bottom for you to, hopefully, see where I'm coming from.

Unfortunately for this lady, she went the whole hog and exclaimed who she was to an (unfortunately) already hostile audience. So her points were lost somewhat.

The main thing to be noted is that the material she is offering you will cost you absolutely nothing but your time. Surely you owe it to yourself to look it over if she's taken so very long to put it together and isn't asking for a thing in return?

I urge you to show a little mercy on the poor sod. Did not David Icke himself suffer - and still does in certain circles - ridicule for his beliefs and ideas? How can we claim to be enlightened truth seekers when we stomp on people who desperately want to tell us something, because they're a tad on the eccentric side?

If we're ripping each other to bits, how the fuck are we going to teach everyone else??

Right, that's me gone and alienated most of the forum! I do truly apologise if I've offended anyone, that was not my intention I assure you.

I merely just wanted to bang yer bloody heads together and remind you why we're all ultimately on the path we find ourselves converging at right now.

Let's not waste this fantastic opportunity we've got here guys yeah? So we're different! That's brilliant! We can all help each other, add different ingredients to the 'idea stew'. Negativity (it's the jesus birth story but in black and white) never got anything positive achieved! Let's just remember that we're on the same team!

Love to all

Kerry-Ann
xXx

Think I'm crazy? Think I am some nut, a crackpot? Just watch what's going to happen in the U.S. over the next few months. Quietly, on October 17, 2007, President George Bush passed a law authorizing martial law in the event of a national emergency: http://www.boingboing.net/2006/10/29/bush-legalizes-marti.html. He also signed and put into place Presidential Directive 51, effectively giving himself authorization to go to war without Congressional approval, and take over the country, at will: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2007/05/20070509-12.html . Both of these effectively gave him dictatorial powers. Wait until you see what's coming...events in March and April, leading to sometime in May 2008, will precipitate martial law in the U.S.; that is my prediction.

I must admit, I did make that self-same prediction to my daughter yesterday. Well, not with dates, but relatively soon. There's too many of us waking up at the same time.

The "Protect America Act" S 1959 will make it an act of force and/or violence to rally, protest, or to gather in any way to try and change social, religious or political views. To do so would mean that you are now a "radical". In the center of this unconstitutional bill is the groundwork for closing down entire sections of the internet.

Now you can't tell me that this isn't a very real possibility. Whether or not it happens I think we should definitely think about the scenario. 'It's better to be prepared for a fuck up and not have one, than to have a fuck up and not be prepared'. Don't you agree?

Listen to what I just said...hear me clearly. I said that they have been here since TIME IMMEMORIAL...this means...BEFORE all of the great books, manuscripts, teachings, etc., etc., etc., that we humans ascribe to spiritual matters, WERE PRODUCED! These Beings brought THEIR OWN INFORMATION with them...THEY KNOW MORE THAN WE DO! That should be very obvious to you! So, in clarifying this, know that they have very carefully, very actively made sure that no human being had ALL of the truth. Most of the time, the truth has been completed obscured! So if you are sorely tempted to say, "Well, the Bible is the only thing I believe"...or, "the Torah is the only Word of God" (put your favorite book into this sentence, Qur'an, whatever you obey), just keep in mind what I said about these alien beings being here before ANYTHING was written! AND, they rule TODAY!

In the past, people knew that these evil entities existed. Here's a portion from the Bible: Ephesians 6:12 - "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Need I say more?!

In a link from the site I found this...

have you wondered why leaders claiming to be religious Christians have no problem grabbing the wealth and appear to have no regard for the abject misery caused by their single-minded pursuit of glory on the road to Armageddon?

I must admit I'm quite grateful to this person. They've really stoked my fire!! Hehe!

Right that's enough. Just remember - play nice yeah? Otherwise it'll be time for Mrs Spankey to take a short, sharp trip to botty land.

Don't think I won't!

Over and Out
xXx

synergy777
23-04-2008, 06:01 PM
nah your'e right bro, i do feel bad, i should have just posted the links outlining what i found from other websites and not made it personal, my bad on that one. if she reads this come back, forgive me. she put alot of work and went through anguish/suffering, i should have shown empathy, i am hot headed.

but what i am saying is that the mervo line is an imposter line, how can a bloodline from yeshua/yashuah be so evil? why are they not on the front line against the nwo, why join the elite, when yeshua was one of the people. why belong to the elitest divine right of kings doctrine, when yeshuah was not a king but a brother to us all, a teacher not a king. they used the whole king thing as insult, the whole inri thing, was joke /insult to jesus. he was a carpenters son, a friend of the social outcaste eg lepers, prostitutes, homeless etc. he loved the people that high society did not, that was a huge measure of the man.

don't fall for the elites insults, offensive bullsh*t , they mock us for our ignorance and fear. the fact is yashuah was hated by most of the people/society, they loved the elite, like they do now. he spoke truth, which highlighted their and the elites own evil actions, he made them look at themselves, look at the bigger picture, and they hated him for it.

the fact yashuah was too good, too nice, too peaceful a man for this cruel world.

if people loved him, where was the support, where were the people who loved him, where were the freedom fighters/insurgents, thats why i am interested in the siccarri/zealots/essenes/nazarenes who battled the occupiers from rome and the corrupt jewish clergy. only his 11 disciples/mary magadelene/mother mary helped him and joseph of arithimea, the rest sold him out.

different time, same problems, eg global imperialism and corrupt clergy.

kezann
23-04-2008, 07:01 PM
Well done you! See, isn't it much better to be nice? lol

As for the bloodline malarky, I really wouldn't focus on it too much. (But then what do I know?). It's too easy to get bogged down with facts and details. These are a man-made commodity. The truth is much simpler than that. A bloodline merely creates people who believe they have certain special traits.

Your soul isn't made of blood. And blood does not make you any different or more enlightened. It certainly doesn't predetermine spirituality that's for blinkin'-well sure.

This woman is, however, more enlightened. She certainly has a good grasp on things. I'm not saying that she's totally right, but anyone who writes...

I dare you to take the time to carefully read what I have to say before you decide to judge me. If I can't prove to you that I am correct, then feel perfectly free to disparage me. But, look first; at least give me that much respect

... deserves further probing methinks.

I've read some amazing thoughts already today, so it's gotta be good in some way?

Hugs n schnugs

Kerry-Ann
xXx

mahabaratara
23-04-2008, 10:29 PM
Bloodline...?

Whatever...

They have been keeping the powers of the Kundalini Secret for themselves and selling us short stories with complete fiction...

The Djedi are watching do what you do...

You want a War...?

mahabaratara
23-04-2008, 10:34 PM
Marquesa, your Lord

Not mine...Even if this person did have something to say then stupidity like this juts puts you off...

Where do these fuckatrds come form....

kezann
23-04-2008, 10:48 PM
Marquesa, your Lord

Not mine...Even if this person did have something to say then stupidity like this juts puts you off...

Couldn't agree with you more. The odd thing I find though is that she doesn't talk like that at all on her website (well, not what I've read so far anyways) she actually sounds like she wants to help.

I, at one point, thought that maybe the person sending the e-mail wasn't the lady on the site. Maybe it was them that chose the wrong tack, not the woman with the message?

If this is the case she totally wants to sack her PR guy! Or, if it's her, learn PR!

kezann
23-04-2008, 10:49 PM
Shit! Forgot to put your bits in quotes!

Soz!
xXx

synergy777
02-05-2008, 12:24 AM
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/tomb-discovered-in-france-considered,355964.shtml

Tomb Discovered in France Considered Knights Templar - When Excavated, Findings May Challenge the Tenets of Christianity

Explored in New Documentary 'BLOODLINE' Premiering May 9

LOS ANGELES, April 17 /PRNewswire/ -- An underground tomb found in the Languedoc region of southwest France has been discovered, which may help substantiate the existence of a Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene bloodline, according to the new documentary BLOODLINE, premiering May 9 in New York and May 16 in Los Angeles. The rare find will be further examined at a Monday, May 5 news conference at the Jewish Museum in New York City. The chamber contains a mummified corpse on a rose-colored plinth under a shroud bearing the distinctive red cross of the Knights Templar, and is surrounded by wooden chests, revealing a cache of gold chalices and coins. The discovery has been reported to the French Government agency, Direction Regionale des Affaires Culturelles Languedoc-Roussillon (DRAC-LR), and plans are underway for a full scale survey.

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"After the Crusades, it was rumored that the Templars had discovered treasure underneath the Temple of Solomon in Jerusalem that could debunk the Catholic Church's doctrine," said BLOODLINE director Bruce Burgess, of the unprecedented discovery of what appears to be an intact Knights Templar tomb. "This treasure was believed to be priceless relics -- documents, the Holy Grail, even the embalmed remains of Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene -- which was then brought to southern France, and hidden."

The subterranean chamber was discovered by an English adventurer, Ben Hammott, using a hidden code in the decor of the church at Rennes-le-Chateau left behind by the 19th century priest, Berenger Sauniere. The film team was able to gain access into the tomb by using a remote camera inserted through a small air shaft at the top of the chamber.

(Clips visible at http://blip.tv/file/827329/)

Relics were not removed, although the team was able to extract a few hair strands from the corpse, which have undergone testing by the Paleo-DNA Laboratory at Lakehead University in Ontario, Canada. "Like most ancient or degraded samples, we knew our best chance for successful results would be to focus our efforts on mitochondrial DNA," said analyst Renee Praymack Fratpietro. "We were able to determine a Middle Eastern maternal origin of the individual based on haplotyping information. After we found out where this hair sample came from, we realized the significance of this work."

BLOODLINE producer Rene Barnett concluded, "Given the DNA results, the region's Templar history and the legend of Priest Sauniere which indicated that he found a tomb in the area that could 'shake the Vatican to its core,' we think this is a staggering find."

The DRAC Commissioner in the region, Jean-Pierre Giraud said, "This is certainly a very intriguing discovery, but it's just too early to tell how important it is. We need to do a full survey of the site to determine the age of the corpse and the other items in the tomb. The archeology department of the DRAC-LR will be carrying out an examination of the site as soon as access has been made possible."

The area surrounding Rennes-le-Chateau features prominently in the bloodline legend which follows the premise that Mary Magdalene escaped Jerusalem with child, sailed to France and settled in the region.

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synergy777
06-05-2008, 11:18 PM
krishna-jerusalem-hill of tara

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7428

also

http://www.studylight.org/his/bc/wfj/apion/view.cgi?book=1&chapter=1

FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS CONTRA APION
chapter 1,verse 22:16

Then said Hyperochides, Go on, if it so pleases thee. This man then, [answered Aristotle,] was by birth a Jew, and came from Celesyria; these Jews are derived from the Indian philosophers; they are named by the Indians Calami, and by the Syrians Judaei, and took their name from the country they inhabit, which is called Judea; but for the name of their city, it is a very awkward one, for they call it Jerusalem.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=96714&postcount=34

http://www.vnn.org/editorials/ET0307/ET14-8222.html

Hebrews And Vedic Brahmins

BY DR. SAMAR ABBAS, ALIGARH, INDIA

EDITORIAL, Jul 14 (VNN) — A Review


tell me what you think of the hill of tara thread, my mish mash of cut and pastes, lol

thus could my wacky hypothesis be true?

synergy777
13-05-2008, 03:42 PM
http://www.redicecreations.com/searching.html#rms

Hesus Krishna

" …Up until the Council of Nicea, Roman aristocracy primarily worshipped two Greek Gods, Apollo and Zeus, but the great bulk of common people idolized either Julius Ceasar or Mithra. Caesar was deified by the Roman Senate after his death (d. 15th March, 44 BC) and subsequently venerated as the Divine Julius. The word 'saviour' was affixed to his name, its literal meaning being 'one who sows the seed', i.e. a phallic god. Caesar was hailed as 'God made manifest and universal Saviour of human life' and his successor, Augustus was called the 'ancestral God and Saviour of the whole human race' (Man and his Gods, Homer Smith, Little, Brown and Co., Boston, 1952). Emperor Nero (37-68), whose original name was L. Domitius Ahenobarbus, was immortalized on his coins as the 'Saviour of mankind' (ibid). Because the Divine Julius

Was Roman Saviour and 'Father of the Empire', he was considered 'god' among the Roman rabble for more than 300 years. He was the deity in some Western presbyter's texts, but was not recognized in Eastern or Oriental writings.

Constantine's intention at Nicaea was to 'create an entirely new god for his Empire' (Confessions of a Vatican Archivist) that would unite all religious factions under one deity, and presbyters were asked to debate and decide who their new god would be. Delegates argued among themselves, expressing personal motives for inclusion of particular writings that promoted the finer traits of their own special divinity. Throughout the meeting, howling factions were immersed in heated debates, and the names of 53 gods were tabled for discussions; 'As yet, the new God had not been selected by the council, and so they balloted, in order to determine the matter; for one year and five months the balloting lasted' (God's Book of Eskra, xlviii, 26-53 Prof. S.I. MacQuire trans, Salisbury, 1921).

At the end of that time, Constantine returned to the gathering to discover that the presbyters had not agreed on a new deity but had balloted down to a short list of five prospects, namely, Caesar, Krishna, Mithra, Horus, and Zeus. Constantine was the ruling spirit at Nicaea and he ultimately decided upon a new god for them. To involve British factions, he ruled that the name of the mighty Druid god,

Hesus (crucified in Britain and later restored to life), be joined with the Eastern savior-god, Krishna (Krishna is Sanskrit for Christ), and thus a caricature, or the personification of an ideal, Hesus Krishna, would be the name of the new Roman god.

A vote was taken and it was with a majority show of hands that both divinities became one God… 161 votes to 157. Following longstanding heathen custom, Constantine used the official gathering and the Roman Apotheoses Decree to legally deify two deities as one, and did so by democratic consent. A new god was proclaimed and 'officially ratified by Constantine' (Acta Concilii Niceni, Colon, 1618).

That purely political act of deification effectively, and legally, placed Hesus and Krishna among the Roman gods as one individual composition. That abstraction lent earthly existence to amalgamated doctrines for the Empire's new religion, and when the letter 'J' was introduced into alphabets around the Ninth Century, the linguistic relic of the name became Jesus Christ. …"

Tony Bushby - The Papal Billions (pp 23-25) Joshua Books - ISBN 978 0 9804101 1 2

synergy777
13-05-2008, 03:56 PM
Proof of global connections to all religions/cultures

Global cultures and religions

hinduism is regarded as the oldest religion in the world, the vedic culture is the worlds oldest global culture. many languages today come from devenaghi/sanskrit eg latin comes from sanskrit, gaelic/ogham comes from sanskrit. all languages hebrew, latin, gaelic are connected to sanskrit.

the jews are descended from vedic people/priesthood/philosophers. the jews spent time in persia/iran and mesopotomia/iraq-babylon.

in babylon the chaldean priesthood combined vedic and african religion into one. this became the basis for judaism, torah and talmud. compare the torah and vedas. judaism gave birth to christianity and islam.

thus one could deduce that all religions are connected, the actions of the council of nicea support this interaction of cultures/religions.

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http://www.studylight.org/his/bc/wfj/apion/view.cgi?book=1&chapter=1

FLAVIUS JOSEPHUS CONTRA APION
chapter 1,verse 22:16

Quote:
Then said Hyperochides, Go on, if it so pleases thee. This man then, [answered Aristotle,] was by birth a Jew, and came from Celesyria; these Jews are derived from the Indian philosophers; they are named by the Indians Calami, and by the Syrians Judaei, and took their name from the country they inhabit, which is called Judea; but for the name of their city, it is a very awkward one, for they call it Jerusalem.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.vnn.org/editorials/ET0307/ET14-8222.html


Hebrews And Vedic Brahmins

BY DR. SAMAR ABBAS, ALIGARH, INDIA

EDITORIAL, Jul 14 (VNN) — A Review

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

http://www.redicecreations.com/searching.htmlrms

Hesus Krishna

" …Up until the Council of Nicea, Roman aristocracy primarily worshipped two Greek Gods, Apollo and Zeus, but the great bulk of common people idolized either Julius Ceasar or Mithra. Caesar was deified by the Roman Senate after his death (d. 15th March, 44 BC) and subsequently venerated as the Divine Julius. The word 'saviour' was affixed to his name, its literal meaning being 'one who sows the seed', i.e. a phallic god. Caesar was hailed as 'God made manifest and universal Saviour of human life' and his successor, Augustus was called the 'ancestral God and Saviour of the whole human race' (Man and his Gods, Homer Smith, Little, Brown and Co., Boston, 1952). Emperor Nero (37-68), whose original name was L. Domitius Ahenobarbus, was immortalized on his coins as the 'Saviour of mankind' (ibid). Because the Divine Julius

Was Roman Saviour and 'Father of the Empire', he was considered 'god' among the Roman rabble for more than 300 years. He was the deity in some Western presbyter's texts, but was not recognized in Eastern or Oriental writings.

Constantine's intention at Nicaea was to 'create an entirely new god for his Empire' (Confessions of a Vatican Archivist) that would unite all religious factions under one deity, and presbyters were asked to debate and decide who their new god would be. Delegates argued among themselves, expressing personal motives for inclusion of particular writings that promoted the finer traits of their own special divinity. Throughout the meeting, howling factions were immersed in heated debates, and the names of 53 gods were tabled for discussions; 'As yet, the new God had not been selected by the council, and so they balloted, in order to determine the matter; for one year and five months the balloting lasted' (God's Book of Eskra, xlviii, 26-53 Prof. S.I. MacQuire trans, Salisbury, 1921).

At the end of that time, Constantine returned to the gathering to discover that the presbyters had not agreed on a new deity but had balloted down to a short list of five prospects, namely, Caesar, Krishna, Mithra, Horus, and Zeus. Constantine was the ruling spirit at Nicaea and he ultimately decided upon a new god for them. To involve British factions, he ruled that the name of the mighty Druid god,

Hesus (crucified in Britain and later restored to life), be joined with the Eastern savior-god, Krishna (Krishna is Sanskrit for Christ), and thus a caricature, or the personification of an ideal, Hesus Krishna, would be the name of the new Roman god.

A vote was taken and it was with a majority show of hands that both divinities became one God… 161 votes to 157. Following longstanding heathen custom, Constantine used the official gathering and the Roman Apotheoses Decree to legally deify two deities as one, and did so by democratic consent. A new god was proclaimed and 'officially ratified by Constantine' (Acta Concilii Niceni, Colon, 1618).

That purely political act of deification effectively, and legally, placed Hesus and Krishna among the Roman gods as one individual composition. That abstraction lent earthly existence to amalgamated doctrines for the Empire's new religion, and when the letter 'J' was introduced into alphabets around the Ninth Century, the linguistic relic of the name became Jesus Christ. …"

Tony Bushby - The Papal Billions (pp 23-25) Joshua Books - ISBN 978 0 9804101 1 2

synergy777
14-05-2008, 01:54 AM
Gospel of Thomas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Theology of the Gospel of Thomas


The introduction also says, "These are the secret sayings that the living Jesus spoke..." By using the word "secret" the author is telling you that these sayings are not for everyone's ears. These are the secret teachings that are only for a special chosen few — the solitary elect or monachos in Greek (which is where we get the word "Monk" from). Furthermore, they are the "secret" teachings of the "living Jesus." The term living Jesus is to distinguish the dualism of the mortal man — Jesus of Nazareth — and the immortal divine being living inside him. The living Jesus would be a pre-existent godly being conceptually similar to the Logos in the Gospel of John.

The theological framework for the Gospel of Thomas is determined by its cosmological outlook. The cosmology of the Gospel of Thomas is extremely dualistic. For Thomas there are only two realms of existence: the material realm and the spiritual realm. The spiritual realm is a blissful reality of goodness, life, and light; it is the Kingdom of the Father. The material realm is a reality of evil, death, and darkness. From Thomas' point of view, the material world is the world of death ruled over by the Lion (possibly a reference to the lion-headed Yaldabaoth in classically Gnostic literature) and his minions or rulers.

While most people in this material world, according to this ancient belief, are lifeless, soulless beings (little more than animated corpses) created to serve the Lion and his rulers; a few people are actually spiritual beings in disguise. These chosen few — though clothed in a mortal body — are actually immortal pre-existent beings of light and Children of the Living Father who have become intoxicated and fallen asleep under the weight of the material world and its vices. These solitary elect, upon hearing the words of the Living Jesus, will then shake off their slumber and — upon the death of the material body — will return to the Kingdom of the Father.

In this way, the theology of Thomas is not that different from the theological concepts within the canonical Gospel of John. In fact, in most ways the Gospel of John and the Gospel of Thomas are very similar. However, this is where the Gospel of John and the Gospel of Thomas part.

While the Gospel of John clearly has a strong accent on a future eschaton in which the risen Jesus overthrows the ruler of this world, Thomas believes that the eschaton is already happening. Also, while John clearly preaches the belief in a bodily resurrection, Thomas claims that the body will never inherit life. Rather, for Thomas, the resurrection is a spiritual one.

Perhaps the best summary of the theology of the Gospel of Thomas is found in the Hymn of the Pearl or the Hymn of the Apostle Thomas — which is found within the Acts of Thomas.

In the Hymn of the Pearl a young prince is sent by his father in the east (East, in antiquity, was seen as symbolic of light and life) to Egypt in the west (West was seen as symbolic of death) in which lies a great pearl guarded by the dragon. The prince puts on the clothes of the Egyptians, so as not to be recognized as a foreigner. However, the dragon learns of the prince and gets the prince to eat the heavy food of the Egyptians. After eating the Egyptian food the prince falls asleep and forgets who he is. He believes himself to be an Egyptian, when in fact he is really a prince from the East.

When the prince's father, the king, hears of his son's capture, he sends a personified message to his son reminding him who he is and where he is from. Upon hearing the message, the prince shakes off his drunkenness, defeats the dragon, takes the pearl, removes the Egyptian clothes and returns to his home in the East.


References

Riley, Gregory J (1995). Resurrection Reconsidered. Augsburg Fortress Publishers. ISBN 0800628462.

Riley, Gregory J (1997). One Jesus, Many Christs : How Jesus Inspired Not One True Christianity, but Many. Harper San Francisco. ISBN 006066790.

Riley, Gregory J (2003). River of God: A New History of Christian Origins. Harper San Francisco. ISBN 0060669802.

Layton, Bentley (1987). The Gnostic Scriptures. Doubleday. ISBN 0385478437.

Meyer, Marvin (2004). The Gospel of Thomas: The Hidden Sayings of Jesus. HarperCollins. ISBN 9780060655815.


The Philosophy of the Gospel of Thomas

In the Thomas gospel, Jesus is a spiritual teacher, and he is offering everyone the opportunity to live (Saying 4) a life that goes beyond death (Saying 1), to become the ruler of their own lives (Saying 2) and thus to know themselves (Saying 3) and their legacy of being the children of "the living Father" (Saying 3). These goals are presented in the image of "entering the Kingdom" by the methodology of insight that goes beyond duality. (Saying 22).

The Gospel of Thomas shows no concern for doctrines such as "God", "original sin", "Christ", "divinity," etc.

The Gospel of Thomas is mystical and emphasizes a direct and unmediated experience of the truth of life. In Thomas v.108, Jesus said, "Whoever drinks from my mouth will become as I am; I myself shall become that person, and the hidden things will be revealed to him." Furthermore, salvation is personal and found through spiritual (psychological) introspection.

In Thomas v.70, Jesus says, "If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not bring it forth, what you do not have within you will kill you." As such, this form of salvation is idiosyncratic and without literal explanation unless read from a psychological perspective related to Self vs. ego. In Thomas v.3, Jesus says,[24]

...the Kingdom of God is inside of you, and it is outside of you. When you come to know yourselves, then you will become known, and you will realize that it is you who are the sons of the living Father. But if you will not know yourselves, you dwell in poverty, and it is you who are that poverty.

In the other four gospels, Jesus is frequently called upon to explain the meanings of parables or the correct procedure for prayer. In Thomas v.6, his disciples asked him, "Do you want us to fast? How should we pray? Should we give to charity? What diet should we observe?" For reasons unknown, Jesus' answer is found in v. 14 and he emphasizes that what is encountered in the world will not defile a person but what comes out from the mouth will.[25]

This is just one example in Thomas in which the hearer's attention is directed away from objectified judgements of the world to knowing oneself in direct and straighforward manner, which is sometimes called being "as a child" or "a little one" through the unification of our dualistic thinking and modes of objectification. (For example, Sayings 22[26] and 37[27]) To protray the breaking down of the dualistic perspective Jesus uses the image of fire which consumes all. (See, Sayings 10[28] and 82[29]).

The teaching of salvation (i.e., entering the Kingdom of Heaven) that is found in The Gospel of Thomas is neither that of "works" nor of "grace" as the dicotomy is found in the canonical gospels, but what might be called a third way, that of insight. The overriding concern of The Gospel of Thomas is to find the light within in order to be a light unto the world. (See for example, Sayings 24[30], 26[31])

In contrast to the Gospel of John, where Jesus is likened to a (divine and beloved) Lord as in ruler, the Thomas gospel portrays Jesus as more the ubiquitous vehicle of mystical inspiration and enlightenment. In Thomas v. 77 where Jesus said,

I am the light that shines over all things. I am everywhere. From me all came forth, and to me all return.
Split a piece of wood, and I am there. Lift a stone, and you will find me there,

In many other respects, the Thomas gospel offers terse yet familiar if not identical accounts of the sayings of Jesus as seen in the synoptic gospels.[32]

Elaine Pagels, in her book Beyond Belief, argues that the Thomas gospel at first fell victim to the needs of the early Christian community for solidarity in the face of persecution, then to the will of the Emperor Constantine, who at the First Council of Nicaea in 325, wanted an end to the sectarian squabbling and a universal Christian creed. She goes on to point out that in spite of it being left out of the Catholic canon, being banned and sentenced to burn, many of the mystical elements have proven to reappear perennially in the works of mystics like Jacob Boehme, Teresa of Avila and Saint John of the Cross (as long as they did not deny the uniqueness and divinity of Jesus). She concludes that the Thomas gospel gives us a rare glimpse into the diversity of beliefs in the early Christian community, an alternative perspective to the Johannine gospel and a check on what many modern Christians take for granted as being heretical.

However the church at large considers the Thomas gospel not as a reflection of "Christian diversity" but as an example of one of the early heresies that attacked the church. Writings like the Thomas gospel motivated the Roman Catholic church to define its long-held canon and belief in the death and resurrection of Christ in the four gospels which formed the heart of the message proclaimed by the early church in the book of Acts.

synergy777
14-05-2008, 02:48 PM
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D90KSE100&show_article=1

http://tech.uk.msn.com/news/article.aspx?cp-documentid=8299079

Vatican says aliens could exist
pa.press.net

Aliens could be out there, and believing that the universe may contain extraterrestrial life does not contradict a faith in God, the Vatican's chief astronomer says.

The vastness of the universe - with its hundred billion galaxies and trillions of stars - means there could be other forms of life outside Earth, even intelligent ones, the Rev Jose Gabriel Funes, a Jesuit who directs the Vatican Observatory, says.

"How can we rule out that life may have developed elsewhere?" Mr Funes said in an interview with Vatican newspaper L'Osservatore Romano, headlined: "The extraterrestrial is my brother."

"Just as there is a multitude of creatures on Earth, there could be other beings, even intelligent ones, created by God. This does not contradict our faith, because we cannot put limits on God's creative freedom," he said.

"Just as we consider earthly creatures as 'a brother' and 'sister', why should we not talk about an 'extraterrestrial brother'? It would still be part of creation."

The full-page interview - printed in a question-and-answer format - ranged from discussions about the relationship between the Roman Catholic Church and science, to the theological implications of the existence of alien life.

Mr Funes mused that aliens would not have been visited by Jesus, because his "incarnation was a unique and unrepeatable event". However, "I am sure that they too, in some way, would have the possibility to benefit from God's mercy".

Mr Funes said that science, especially astronomy, did not contradict religion, touching on a theme often dealt with by Pope Benedict XVI, who has made exploring the relationship between faith and reason a key aspect of his papacy.

The Bible "is not a science book" and looking for scientific facts on the universe and its origin does not cast doubt on God's role in its creation, Mr Funes says.

As an example, he said he believed the Big Bang theory was the most "reasonable" explanation of the creation of the universe. The theory says the universe began billions of years ago in the explosion of a single, super-dense point that contained all matter

remember huygens!!!!!!!!!!

Cosmotheoros (1698)

http://www.phys.uu.nl/~huygens/cosmotheoros_en.htm

http://www.phys.uu.nl/~huygens/cosmotheoros_en.htm#Holy%20Scriptures

These Conjectures do not contradict the holy Scriptures

The other sort, when they hear us talk of new Lands, and Animals endued with as much Reason as themselves will be ready to fly out into religious Exclamations, that we set up Conjectures against the Word of God, and broach Opinions directly opposite to Holy Writ. For we do not there read one word of the Production of such Creatures, no not so much as of their Existence; nay rather we read the quite contrary. For, That only mentions this Earth with its Animals and Plants, and Man the Lord of them; but as for Worlds in the Sky, ’tis wholly silent. Either these Men resolve not to understand, or they are very ignorant; For they have [7] been answer’d so often, that I am almost asham’d to repeat it: That it’s evident God had no design to make a particular Enumeration in the Holy Scriptures, of all the Works of his Creation. When therefore it is plain that under the general name of Stars or Earth are comprehended all the Heavenly Bodies, even the little Gentlemen round Jupiter and Saturn, why must all that multitude of Beings which the Almighty Creator has been pleased to place upon them, be excluded the Privilege, and not suffer’d to have a share in the Expression? And these Men themselves can’t but know in what sense it is that all things are said to be made for the use of Man, not certainly for us to stare or peep through a Telescope at; for that’s little better than nonsense. Since then the greatest part of God’s Creation, that innumerable multitude of Stars, is plac’d out of the reach of any man’s Eye; and many of them, it’s likely, of the best Glasses, so that they don’t seem to belong to us; is it such an unreasonable Opinion, that there are [8] some reasonable Creatures who see and admire those glorious Bodies at a nearer distance?


is this the conditioning before the arrival/revealing of the nephilm, the biblical fallen, the annunaki?

synergy777
23-05-2008, 03:15 PM
http://www.ziopedia.org/articles/editorial/religions_of_the_new_world_order/

Religions of the New World Order

Written by Andrew Winkler, The Rebel Media Group
Friday, 23 May 2008


One of the toughest challenges for the people behind the New World Order is to reconcile the ideologies and traditions of the various factions of the ruling elite. Apart from a common supremacist, parasitic and psychopathic attitude towards the rest of mankind they are a diverse crowd. They are Jews, Christians, Muslims, Buddhists, Agnostics and Atheists. They are bankers, industrialists and nobility. They are Nazis, Monarchists, Democrats, Socialists and Communists. In the past, those differences have often caused frictions and stood in the way of their common goal of screwing the rest of us.

The epic struggle between Nazi Germany and Bolshevik Russia is a classic example. They were both created, financed and controlled by competing factions of the ruling elite. Although highly profitable - as any war, hot or cold - and successful at achieving its prime goal of the creation of a Jews-only state in the Holy Land, it delayed the roll-out of the New World Order by more than 50 years.

The one force that kept everything together is the 200 year old world-wide drug trading franchise co-owned by the Rothschilds and the Windsors. The franchisees are rogue elements within the world’s governments in cohorts with the ruling elites. The obscene profits from these government enforced, tax payer funded illegal drug selling monopolies are the strings the London puppet players are using to keep everyone in line.

230 years ago, when the Rothschilds started their quest for world domination, things were so much easier. They could simply rely on fellow Jews, their strong tribal instincts and traditional Jewish supremacist views towards ‘Gentiles’. According to the Talmud, non-Jews are animals created in human shape for the purpose of serving and enriching Jews.

After 200 years of intermarriage with the world’s old elites, the parasitical network has reached a point where it is no longer exclusively Jewish. What is more, a century of systematic ridiculing and undermining of traditional Christian beliefs by the Jewish controlled media weakened Jewish religious fervour too. Only orthodox Jews are still subscribing to the obscenely racist Talmudian teachings. The rest is in denial that such beliefs even exist.

For the past 100 years, a lot of effort was put into replacing Judaism with a secular religion. Zionism and – later on – the Holocult worked well for the lower ranked shills of the ruling elite, at least for those with a Jewish background. Zionism is increasingly a dirty word because of the genocidal treatment of the Palestinian people. As a result, the Zionist entity has become a liability for the ruling elite, and a constant source of contention between its Jewish and non-Jewish members.

Like everybody else, the non-Jewish part of the ruling elite has also grown tired of being constantly reminded of the alleged Jewish suffering and the special status Jews demand in return. It resents having to enforce the three dogmas of the Holocult: the debunked claims of a plan to kill all European Jews, the use of gas chambers and the murder of 6 million Jews. At the same time, she cannot afford to alienate the Jewish high-priests of the New World Order. Too strong is their strangle-hold over the media and the financial sector.

The ruling elite is in desperate need of a secular religion uniting all of its members and inspiring its top ranking executives. For centuries, Masonic lodges have fulfilled that bridging need to some extent. However, in spite of some connections between different lodges, they remain fiercely independent and primarily focused on advancing the selfish interests of their high-ranking members. They are also faced with the same problem as traditional religions. Their beliefs and rituals look and feel old-fashioned and quaint, making them unsuited as a universal religion of the New World Order.

What would fulfil that need better than the pseudo-scientific story of the Anunnaki, telling the ruling elite that they are genetically designed to rule and enslave mankind?

Working from the same archaeological discoveries, artifacts, and recovered records as archaeologists and linguists have for two hundred years, Sitchin propounds – proves, in the opinion of this author -- that the Anunnaki (Sumerian: “those who came down from the heavens”; Old testament Hebrew, Anakeim, Nefilim, Elohim; Egyptian: Neter),

an advanced civilization from the tenth planet in our solar system, splashed down in the Persian gulf area around 432,000 years ago, colonized the planet, with the purpose of obtaining large quantities of gold. Some 250,000 years ago, the recovered documents tell us, their lower echelon miners rebelled against the conditions in the mines and the Anunnaki directorate decided to create a creature to take their place. Enki, their chief scientist and Ninhursag their chief medical officer, after getting no satisfactory results splicing animal and Homo Erectus genes, merged their Anunnaki genes with that of Homo Erectus and produced us, Homo Sapiens, a genetically bicameral species, for their purposes as slaves. Because we were a hybrid, we could not procreate. The demand for us as workers became greater and we were genetically manipulated to reproduce.

Eventually, we became so numerous that some of us were expelled from the Anunnaki city centers, gradually spreading over the planet. Having become a stable genetic stock and developing more precociously than, perhaps, the Anunnaki had anticipated, the Anunnaki began to be attracted to humans as sexual partners and children were born of these unions. This was unacceptable to the majority of the Anunnaki high council and it was decided to wipe out the human population through a flood that was predictable when Nibiru, the tenth in our solar system and the Anunnaki home planet, came through the inner solar system again (around 12,500 years ago) on one of its periodic 3600 year returns. Some humans were saved by the action of the Anunnaki official, Enki, who was sympathetic to the humans he had originally genetically created. For thousands of years, we were their slaves, their workers, their servants, and their soldiers in their political battles among themselves. The Anunnaki used us in the construction of their palaces (we retroproject the religious notion of temple on these now), their cities, their mining and refining complexes and their astronomical installations on all the continents. They expanded from Mesopotamia to Egypt to India to South and Central America and the stamp of their presence can be found in the farthest reaches of the planet.

Around 6000 years ago, they, probably realizing that they were going to phase off the planet, began, gradually, to bring humans to independence. Sumer, a human civilization, amazing in its “sudden”, mature, and highly advanced character was set up under their tutelage in Mesopotamia. Human kings were inaugurated as go-betweens, foremen of the human populations answering to the Anunnaki. A strain of humans, genetically enhanced with more Anunnaki genes, a bloodline of rulers in a tradition of “servants of the people” was initiated (Gardner). These designated humans were taught technology, mathematics, astronomy, advanced crafts and the ways of advanced civilized society (in schools, called now “mystery schools” but there was no mystery about them). Gardner has brought to light the fact that there exists a robust, highly documented, genealogical, genetic history carrying all the way back to the Anunnaki, possessed by the heterodox tradition of Christianity, which is only now coming forward, no longer gun-shy of the Inquisition. This tradition, preserving the bloodline, is the one branded “heretical” and murderously persecuted by the Roman Church. There were no Dark Ages for this tradition, only for those whom the Church wanted to keep in the dark about the real nature of human history and destroy the bloodline, a direct threat to the power of the Bishops.[1]

The idea that humans are the result of genetic engineering by aliens makes intuitive sense. What makes this concept dangerous though is its potential to be used by the ruling elite to justify enslaving mankind and treating them like cattle. Believing that they carry more Anunnaki genes than the rest of mankind and being genetically designed to rule mankind is a secular version of traditional Jewish beliefs, only more dangerous because of its modern ‘sex appeal’. Neither of them are really religions but a license to kill, torture, prostitute, enslave, cheat, deceive, rob for those with the right genetic makeup.

The Anunnaki myth fits in well with Masonic and Kabalist concepts of bloodlines of current members of the ruling elite going back thousands of years to the building of Solomon’s or the Babylonian temple. It is an extremely dangerous thinking and puts all of mankind at risk.

Andrew Winkler is the editor/publisher of Sydney based dissident blogs ZioPedia.org, Jews Anonymous and Power of No . He can be contacted at editor@ziopedia.org

amethyst
23-05-2008, 04:06 PM
Syn,

Your information and threads are great, but I think I just need the " Reader's Digest" version to get thru some of them. :D

Got any condensed versions?

synergy777
23-05-2008, 04:09 PM
nope, i guess i should edit them down, its just i can speed read, so i whizz through them and highlight/bold what i think is important

will edit better for the future!

amethyst
23-05-2008, 04:21 PM
nope, i guess i should edit them down, its just i can speed read, so i whizz through them and highlight/bold what i think is important

will edit better for the future!

It's o.k. syn....my brain just can't contain so much all at once...I keep missing the main points :D

beldazar
23-05-2008, 04:30 PM
Thanks Amethyst, you have said how I feel, Syn posts some good stuff but I go off long posts, its as if I dont have the patience to read thru them, so much to look at :)

synergy777
23-05-2008, 04:31 PM
i will make shorter posts, my bad.

mariag
23-05-2008, 08:10 PM
Hello,

My name is Marquesa Laurel Windsor Gastineau, and I am the Head of the Merovingian Bloodline. I and my Spouse, Madonna Francine Windsor Gastineau, would like to invite anyone who would like to find out about us, the TOP LIZARDS IN THIS WORLD, to our website, and find out what we intend to do with the people of Earth, now that we have come back.

The website is www.danielskey.com you will find a free book download there that explains everything in great details.

Don't think that we are playing around; this is REAL; this is deadly serious. We are going to take our proper place ruling this world NOW! So, the better informed you are, the better you will adjust to the new regime.

By the way, make sure that you watch Madonna at her induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ceremony on March 10th, tomorrow night at 8:30 p.m. PST, in New York. It will be shown LIVE on VH1 Classics.

That's all I have to say for now; if you have any questions, please feel free to email me.

Thank you,
Marquesa, your Lord


I invite you to come to my website and discuss further about the Agenda.

http://orderofthenephilim.ning.com

We discuss this from another point of view. I am also from the same bloodline as yourself . I am related to all the "Black Novelty" in Europe.

edelweiss pirate
23-05-2008, 08:14 PM
SOUNDS A BIT SCARY!

Who needs orders?

Who is ever 'free' under Orders?

Madheads.

Mariag, your website made me ill! Like I'd drunk a Stella or summats!

lightgiver
23-05-2008, 10:25 PM
http://www.israeltoday.co.il/default.aspx?tabid=128&view=item&idx=1347

Rabbi Reveals Name of the Messiah

Shortly before he died, one of Israel's most prominent rabbis wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was opened, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah.

A few months before he died, one of the nation’s most prominent rabbis, Yitzhak Kaduri, supposedly wrote the name of the Messiah on a small note which he requested would remain sealed until now. When the note was unsealed, it revealed what many have known for centuries: Yehoshua, or Yeshua (Jesus), is the Messiah.

With the biblical name of Jesus, the Rabbi and kabbalist described the Messiah using six words and hinting that the initial letters form the name of the Messiah.

The secret note said:

Concerning the letter abbreviation of the Messiah’s name, He will lift the people and prove that his word and law are valid.

Thisis I have signed in the month of mercy,
Yitzhak Kaduri

The Hebrew sentence (translated above in bold) with the hidden name of the Messiah reads: Yarim Ha’Am Veyokhiakh Shedvaro Vetorato Omdim

The initials spell the Hebrew name of Jesus, Yehoshua. Yehoshua and Yeshua are effectively the same name, derived from the same Hebrew root of the word “salvation” as documented in Zechariah 6:11 and Ezra 3:2. The same priest writes in Ezra, “Yeshua son of Yozadak” while writing in Zechariah “Yehoshua son of Yohozadak.” The priest adds the holy abbreviation of God’s name, ho, in the father’s name Yozadak and in the name Yeshua.

With one of Israel’s most prominent rabbis indicating the name of the Messiah is Yeshua, it is understandable why his last wish was to wait one year after his death before revealing what he wrote.

When the name of Yehoshua appeared in Kaduri’s message, ultra-Orthodox Jews from his Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva (seminary) in Jerusalem argued that their master did not leave the exact solution for decoding the Messiah’s name.

The revelation received scant coverage in the Israeli media. Only the Hebrew websites News First Class (Nfc) and Kaduri.net mentioned the Messiah note, insisting it was authentic. The Hebrew daily Ma'ariv ran a story on the note but described it as a forgery.

Jewish readers responded on the websites' forums with mixed feelings: “So this means Rabbi Kaduri was a Christian?” and “The Christians are dancing and celebrating,” were among the comments.

Israel Today spoke to two of Kaduri’s followers in Jerusalem who admitted that the note was authentic, but confusing for his followers as well. “We have no idea how the Rabbi got to this name of the Messiah,” one of them said.

Yet others completely deny any possibility that the note is authentic. Kaduri’s son, Rabbi David Kaduri, said that at the time the note was written (September 2005), his father’s physical condition made it impossible for him to write.


KADURI'S PORTRAYAL OF THE MESSIAH

A few months before Kaduri died at the age of 108, he surprised his followers when he told them that he met the Messiah. Kaduri gave a message in his synagogue on Yom Kippur, the Day of Atonement, teaching how to recognize the Messiah. He also mentioned that the Messiah would appear to Israel after Ariel Sharon’s death. (The former prime minister is still in a coma after suffering a massive stroke more than a year ago.)

Other rabbis predict the same, including Rabbi Haim Cohen, kabbalist Nir Ben Artzi and the wife of Rabbi Haim Kneiveskzy.

Kaduri’s grandson, Rabbi Yosef Kaduri, said his grandfather spoke many times during his last days about the coming of the Messiah and redemption through the Messiah.

His spiritual portrayals of the Messiah—reminiscent of New Testament accounts—were published on the websites Kaduri.net and Nfc:





“The revelation of the Messiah will be fulfilled in two stages: First, he will actively confirm his position as Messiah without knowing himself that he is the Messiah. Then he will reveal himself to some Jews, not necessarily to wise Torah scholars. It can be even simple people. Only then he will reveal himself to the whole nation. The people will wonder and say: ‘What, that’s the Messiah?’ Many have known his name but have not believed that he is the Messiah.”


FAREWELL TO A 'TSADIK'

Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri was known for his photographic memory and his memorization of the Bible, the Talmud, Rashi and other Jewish writings. He knew Jewish sages and celebrities of the last century and rabbis who lived in the Holy Land and kept the faith alive before the State of Israel was born.

Kaduri was not only highly esteemed because of his age of 108. He was charismatic and wise, and chief rabbis looked up to him as a Tsadik, a righteous man or saint. He would give advice and blessings to everyone who asked. Thousands visited him to ask for counsel or healing. His followers speak of many miracles and his students say that he predicted many disasters.

When he died, more than 200,000 people joined the funeral procession on the streets of Jerusalem to pay their respects as he was taken to hisfinal resting place.

“When he comes, the Messiah will rescue Jerusalem from foreign religions that want to rule the city,” Kaduri once said. “They will not succeed for they will fight against one another.”


THE RABBI'S FOLLOWERS REACT

In an interview with Israel Today, Rabbi David Kaduri, the 80-year-old son of the late Rabbi Yitzhak Kaduri, denied that his father left a note with the name Yeshua just before he died.

“It’s not his writing,” he said when we showed him a copy of the note.

During a nighttime meeting in the Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva in Jerusalem, books with the elder Kaduri’s handwriting from 80 years ago were presented to us in an attempt to prove that the Messiah note was not authentic.

When we told Rabbi Kaduri that his father’s official website (www.kaduri.net) had mentioned the Messiah note, he was shocked. “Oh no! That’s blasphemy. The people could understand that my father pointed to him [the Messiah of the Christians].”

David Kaduri confirmed, however, that in his last year, his father had talked and dreamed almost exclusively about the Messiah and his coming. “My father has met the Messiah in a vision,” he said, “and told us that he would come soon.”

Israel Today was given access to many of the rabbi's manuscripts, written in his own hand for the exclusive use of his students. Most striking were the cross-like symbols painted by Kaduri all over the pages. In the Jewish tradition, one does not use crosses. In fact, even the use of a plus sign is discouraged because it might be mistaken for a cross.

But there they were, scribbled in the rabbi's own hand. When we asked what those symbols meant, Rabbi David Kaduri said they were “signs of the angel." Pressed further about the meaning of the “signs of the angel," he said he had no idea. Rabbi David Kaduri went on to explain that only his father had had a spiritual relationship with God and had met the Messiah in his dreams.

Orthodox Jews around the Nahalat Yitzhak Yeshiva told Israel Today a few weeks later that the story about the secret note of Rabbi Kaduri should never have come out, and that it had damaged the name the revered old sage.

you mervos are imposters as the creator does not believe in elitism, you are the seed of evil.

i have your mervo/carlo/charles martel/charlemagne history.

it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle
than a rich person to enter the kingdom of god?
the kingdom of god is within?not in bricks and stones:)
Beware of sheep in wolves clothing:)
the people have been continually deceived
and the time of judgement is soon,
the MEEK shall inherit the earth:)
so all you bloodlines can swivel:p

lightgiver
23-05-2008, 11:17 PM
good posts synergy:)but please keep em shorter:D
gonna need glasses by the time i have done readin em:D
it is simple to make life complicated
and complicated to make life simple:)
still like ya posts,but i to miss half the good stuff:)peace man,om shantih:D

synergy777
23-05-2008, 11:25 PM
lightgiver my bad, but i feel its my duty to give you the whole posts, as the people who have wrote the articles deserve the exposure. also having a full post gives you all the info, so you can decide for yourself. also you can analyse the info and my conclusions and help to point out mistakes/critically analyse both the article and my views/conclusions.

mariag is black novelty, well i'm panjabi, gods own, a child of the creator, of which there is no greater (that includes all of us btw) lol. i laugh at these shallow people who speak of their elite bloodlines etc, whats so elite about being evil?

my bloodline is one with the divine, all of our bloodlines are.

synergy777
23-05-2008, 11:35 PM
also the nephilim/annunaki are the fallen, and this elitest snobbery pisses me off, this is why the time has come for no peace with evil. the sons of the creator are here, they and the archangels will defeat satan and his lot again, archangel michael rocks!!!

lightgiver
26-05-2008, 07:10 PM
COOL MAN:)I will take my time when reading;)Thankyou for your work:D

mahabaratara
26-05-2008, 07:17 PM
I am also from the same bloodline as yourself...

So what...

synergy777
24-06-2008, 04:35 PM
http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilians.html

Description: Typically, Reptilians are described as 6 to 8 feet tall, bipedal, having scaly green skin, have a bad odor, have large eyes usually yellow or gold with a vertical pupil. They are sometimes linked to myths about ancient astronauts who allegedly came to Earth to seed the planet and promised to return one day. No one is coming back.

Theories involving Reptilian aliens are metaphoric in content, much like other creational myths throughout the programs of reality, weaving together clues to help one figure out humanity's journey in linear time.

Reptilian humanoids are a proposed race of intelligent, supernatural, or highly developed reptile-like humanoids in mythology, popular fiction, pseudoscientific theories and in the writings of New Age conspiracists. They appear in some conspiracy theories, most notably those of Riley Martin, John Rhodes, David Icke, and in science fiction. Reptoids, a conjoined word defining Reptilian-Humanoid beings, is the most popular name used to describe these cryptid beings, although some authors also refer to them as dinosauroids, lizardfolk or lizardmen. Other names include Draconians, Saurians and Sauroids. They are often described as being green or gold color. Similar to the other cryptids, no one has produced proof of the existence of reptilian humanoids, and allegations of their existence can at best be referred to as cryptozoology or pseudoscience.

Mythological references to reptilian humanoids

Several ancient peoples all over the world have described reptilian beings, and some have described reptilian humanoids. Common in numerous mythologies are tales of reptilian creatures (usually not humanoid) who are often, but not always, hostile to human beings. Also rather common are the myths of "Serpents of Wisdom" who enlightened humanity before the dawn of civilization.

Some individuals, doubting claims of reptilian humanoid sightings or contacts, suggest that the mythological preeminence of reptilian forms could stem from a genetic memory of instincts developed millions of years ago, when mammals were the prey of the reptiles which dominated the Earth. Dreams of reptiles are often interpreted as symbolizing "ancient drives" and "instinctive responses".

The Americas

The Toltec Mayan god Gucumatz was described as a "serpent of wisdom" who enlightened humankind. His Aztec counterpart was named Quetzalcoatl. In the Yucatan, he is called Kukulcan.

The Hopi refer to a race of reptoids called the Sheti, or "Snake-Brothers", who live underground. The Cherokee and other Native American peoples also refer to reptoid races.

In pre-Columbian mythology from Colombia, Bachue (the primordial woman) transformed into a big snake. She is also sometimes called the "Celestial Snake" (Serpiente Celestial).

Many users of the drug Dimethyltryptamine (the active ingredient in many South American shamanic potions such as ayahuasca) have seen reptilian humanoids or reptilian disincarnate entities and aliens while hallucinating (Strassman 2000).

Europe

Cecrops I, the legendary first King of Athens was said to have been half man, half snake. The ancient Titans and Gigantes were sometimes depicted as winged man-like beings with serpents instead of legs, for example on a fresco on a temple in Pergamum. In these images from Pergamum, some of which depict the gigantomachy, one sees the giant Klyteios with huge serpents in place of legs.

Boreas (Aquilon to the Romans) was the Greek god of the cold north wind, described by Pausanias as a winged man with serpents for legs.

The European dragon dates back to ancient depictions on various archaeological artifacts. An early instance in literature was the dragon that guarded the Golden Fleece in the Voyage of the Argonauts. In the Middle Ages, tales of dragons seem to have become even more common. The dragon in Europe, as a rule, was not conceived as having a humanoid form, and would not qualify as an instance of a reptilian humanoid unless explicitly described as humanoid.

India

In Indian scriptures and legends the Naga are reptilian beings said to live underground and interact with human beings on the surface. Some are alleged to turn human. In some versions, these beings were said to have once lived on a continent in the Indian Ocean that sank beneath the waves. Indian texts also refer to a reptilian race called the "Sarpa. The Syrictae of India were a tribe of men with snake-like nostrils in place of noses and bandy serpentine legs.

East Asia

The Chinese, Korean and Japanese speak throughout their history of Lóng (Yong in Korean, Ryu in Japanese) or dragons, conceived of in both physical and non-physical forms, but rarely depicted in humanoid form, though they may assume a non-reptilian human form.

The Japanese have tales of Kappa, a basically reptilian humanoid.

In China, Korea and Japan, underwater realms where the Dragon Kings and their descendants live are referred to, as well as the lineage of humans from a race of dragons. This lineage was often claimed by Asian Emperors, who were believed to be able to change from human to dragon form at will, much like the modern concept of shapeshifting reptilians. However, the dragon is seen as good rather than evil in Eastern tradition.

Middle East

In the Middle East, reptilian beings ranging from certain Jinn to dragons and serpent-men have been spoken of since ancient times. In one of the apocryphal books purporting to be the lost Book of Jasher, a serpent race is described.

In the Book of Genesis, God punishes the serpent for deceiving Eve into eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil by decreeing, "Upon thy belly thou shalt go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of your life" (Genesis 3:14 KJV). Traditionally, many have felt this implied that the serpent (a snake or reptile) had legs before then. Thus It is therefore often portrayed in Western art as a humanoid (woman) with a snake's tail, and sometimes lizard-like feet, as in a detail from Bosch's Last Judgement.

In the Middle Ages down to modern times, the Devil was often conceived as a humanoid with reptilian characteristics, as were demons in general. But the New Testament reference of Revelation 12:9 which identifies the serpent of Genesis as Satan himself (the "dragon, devil, Satan, ancient serpent," etc.) gives insight from another angle. The serpent in the Garden of Eden was Satan himself, a beautiful supernatural being (either called a "serpent" symbolically, or because he manifested himself commonly in a dragon/serpent-like form). Hence the reference to "crawling" and "eating dust" is purely symbolic of his ultimate defeat and humiliation.

Africa

In Africa, some shamans claim to bear extensive esoteric knowledge of a race of reptilians called the Chitauri, whom they say control the Earth. They also claim to have accounts of a reptilian race who created them and used them to work their gold mines. Also, the ancient Egyptian god Sobek was portrayed as a man with the head of a crocodile.

Modern Claims

Even in modern times, some claim to have encountered reptilian humanoids. In many of these cases, a UFO is part of the encounter; alien abduction narratives sometimes allege contact with reptilian creatures.