The Curious Case Of David Icke by Richard Finnegan

[mr_self_destruct]

First post, greetings.

I found this interesting article on the net (The Curious Case Of David Icke by Richard Finnegan):

http://darrendixon.supanet.com/thecuriouscaseofdavidicke.htm

It's Part 1 and apparently 2 and 3 were to follow, but I can't find them anywhere on the net.

I thought this would be the place to come to find someone who knew where the other 2 parts are, or if they even exist!

[kasalt]

That was a very good essay. Balanced, well written. Thanks for posting the link. Hopefully someone will be able to find parts 2 and 3, if they exist. I tried with no luck.

[john white]

Looks like some kind of University dissertation to me. And yes nicely written and clearly researched

[greenleaf]

Richard wrote this about Richard Warman and David Icke too
http://www.hiddenmysteries.org/news/america/canada/112401b.html

[mr_self_destruct]

^ I enjoyed reading that one too...seems the guy has had contact with this site in the past (though unfortunately his "Counter-Propaganda" website appears to now be defunct).

[richard_finnegan]

Hi guys. I wrote the essay in question after a nasty run-in with the thought police here in Canada. It was not written as a university thesis, but I was a full time university student at the time (a mature student, having entered university in my thirties) -- my formal training no doubt showed in the structure of the project. Parts 2 and 3 were more or less completed and I was preparing to post them when I experienced a major pc meltdown that destroyed most of my files (I not only lost Parts 2 and 3 of the essay, but also two rough drafts of university papers I was working on at the time). I had not, unfortunately, backed up parts two and three, but did have a backup of part 1 and all of the research notes I had acquired. This meant that I would have to essentially rewrite parts 2 and 3, and the thought of such an enormous task at that time quite frankly deflated most of my interest in the project. Final exams were fast approaching, I had spent weeks emailing Richard Warman and the Ontario and Canadian Green Parties, and my university work had suffered enormously. My original intention was to do it, and in fact had done it, but when I lost all of my work I could not justify putting more time into it at that point because it would have constituted an act of academic suicide. Thus I put it aside, and by the time I was in a position to return to the subject much of the incentive had largely become moot. I still have all of my notes and have considered rebirthing the project under a different name with a different focus, but I am not sure what the interest would be; there is, I suppose, still a free speech lesson in all of it, and it also constitutes an interesting study in the fine art of quoting out of context and various information manipulation strategies.

I had some communications with David himself at the time and it is a bit of shame that so much effort on both his part and mine should go to waste. I have much more time now that my degrees are completed. Perhaps if there was enough interest I would consider completing the project, although I would have to catch-up to David as I have not been following his new books (the last book I read during my research was Children of the Matrix). I would probably need to interface with David himself again to do it properly, thus he would have to show some interest as well. There certainly is reason to be interested; it could be the definitive work on the person David Icke, as I have yet to see any other academic analysis of him and his work. I do not have his email address anymore (I suppose I could dig up my old inbox backup files, but he may have changed it by now anyway), so word would have to circulate to him by fate or some other less direct method, as I doubt he spends too much time dredging through this exhaustive forum.

I hope this solves the mystery for you all.

Cheers,

Richard F.

[mr_self_destruct]

Glad you eventually found this thread :)

Shame about the loss of parts 2 and 3. I for one very much enjoyed reading part 1 and would look forward to reading more.

Perhaps if you contact a moderator they can get in touch with David, I would hope so anyway, after they've read part 1.

[richard_finnegan]

On a whim I decided to see if the essay was still in circulation; apparently it is, and that is how I ended up here.

David has read part 1; as I said, he had some input into it. My only concern in completing the project is the issue of including his subsequent writings (which would be necessary). I do understand he has spent some effort advocating the use of powerful hallucinogens (as did Graham Hancock). I am, at this stage of my life, in the know spiritually (that is know, not believe), and am loathe to shine a light on a path I ultimately consider deleterious to true enlightenment (the average person has everything they need spiritually at birth; drugs throw a blanket over lucidity and obfuscate the soul's vision of reality). I do not want to encourage young people to choose this road as it simply is not required and is at best a diversion (historically they served their place for the savages that first began using them (and they are particularly well-suited to a primitive mind), but culturally we have long since transcended the need for such "tools" and deeper enlightenment cannot be acquired while under their influence). To what degree has David endorsed these drugs? Does he still advocate them?

I am not sure the drug issue will matter ultimately, but it does make me somewhat apprehensive.

[kasalt]

I've read that David has said his ayauhasca experiment was just a one-time thing, and that he won't be doing it again for the same reasons you list for not doing it in the first place.

I would encourage you to continue with the work in spite of the setbacks if you are still interested. I had a similar experience 10 years ago while writing a manuscript. I wound up having to rewrite it almost from scratch, but the end result was an even better product than the original would have been.

[psych641]

Thats a top class essay :)

its going to be really useful link when meeting people on other forums new to Icke, as you patiently counter the usual ignorance & smears in a neutral and very comprehensive way.

A lot of the background details were new to me, and quite illuminating (if a little disturbing!)