Pyramids Older Than Egyptian found in ukraine

[jagalman]

Pyramids Older Than Egyptian Allegedly Found in Ukraine

http://mosnews.com/files/17140/pyr.jpg

Archaeologists in Ukraine have unearthed the remains of an ancient pyramidal structure that pre-dates those in Egypt by at least 300 years. The stone foundations of the structure, which probably resembled Aztec and Mayan ziggurats in South America, were discovered near the eastern city of Lugansk.

It is thought they were laid about five millennia ago during the early Bronze Age by animists who worshipped a sun god. The “pyramid” is in fact a complex of temples and sacrificial altars topping a sculpted hillside with steps on its sides.

Viktor Klochko, head of the excavation, said the discovery was of international significance. “This is the first monument of its age and kind found in eastern Europe,” he told the Guardian. “It changes our whole conception of the social structure and the level of development of the cattle breeders and farmers who were the direct ancestors of most European peoples.”

There are about 100 pyramids in Egypt, and the remains of Mesopotamian pyramids are preserved in Iraq and Iran. Ziggurats are also found in Mexico, and the Nubians built pyramids as burial sites for monarchs in the Nile valley. But pyramid structures are rare in Europe. One of the few is a Roman-era pyramid near Nice, France, that may have been built by legionnaires involved in an Egyptian cult.

Although graves have been found at the Lugansk site, archaeologists think it was used for sacrifice by burning, rather than as a burial ground. “People lived in the surrounding valleys and climbed up it to carry out their ceremonies,” said Mr Klochko. “They had a pagan cult that bowed down to the sun, as did the ancestors of the Slavs.”

Remains of sacrifice victims, ashes and ceramics have been found at the site, but no jewellery or treasure. The complex, which covered three-quarters of a square mile and was around 60 metres (192ft) high, was probably used for 2,000 years.

“What surprised me most is the scale of this enormous complex,” Stanislav Mogilny, a student working on the excavation, told Russian television. It’s just incredible — a titanic feat.“

[rebel ins]

I'm an archaeology student, and I've listened the Bronze Age archeology class of that area in the last semester, this would be really unique, we'll see until something is published

BTW have you heard of Bosnian pyramids? all experts denied their existance, I haven't seen them myself but since I've realized that most of the history is covered up and invented I'm having some doubts ...

some journalists have asked my professor at the university about them and he said that if these pyramids were real (and everybody dismisses this idea as ridiculous) they could had been built at that point in history only by aliens

[mynameis]

Is there a link with this please?

[jagalman]

Is there a link with this please?

Yup

http://mosnews.com/news/2006/09/08/pyramids.shtml

[phoenix1]

Thoth The Atlantean Built The Great Pyramid....and I have Lain in the Sarcophagus. Generator Ahem.
It is at least 36.000 years old.
If you are attuned....Go lie in it sometime...and really feel the Antiquity.
I had a MASSIVE headach after laying in there. And well....all I can say is try it sometime in this lifetime if you can..

I stand with Thoth, not convention...and bullshit carbon 14
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http://www.crystalinks.com/emeraldpreface.html

For some 16,000 years, he ruled the ancient race of Egypt, from approximately 52,000 B.C. to 36,000 B.C. At that time, the ancient barbarous race among which he and his followers had settled had been raised to a high degree of civilization.

Thoth was an immortal, that is, he had conquered death, passing only when he willed and even then not through death. His vast wisdom made him ruler over the various Atlantean colonies, including the ones in South and Central America.

When the time came for him to leave Egypt, he erected the Great Pyramid over the entrance to the Great Halls of Amenti, placed in it his records, and appointed guards for his secrets from among the highest of his people.

In later times, the descendants of these guards became the pyramid priests, by which Thoth was deified as the God of Wisdom, The Recorder, by those in the age of darkness which followed his passing. In legend, the Halls of Amenti became the underworld, the Halls of the gods, where the soul passed after death for judgment.
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Expecting the mainsteam conventional pyramidiot flack back LOL

Phoenix

[phoenix1]

I see all this stuff and think the immortal words "An expert said...blah blah"

or "a spokeman said blah blah and more blaah"

The Expert and The Spokesman ????? Who the blue fuck are they innit?? They never have names normally....do they ?

[phoenix1]

Yup

http://mosnews.com/news/2006/09/08/pyramids.shtml


Thanks for the info though jagalman...the Pyramidal age is ancient..and global.
Everywhere, Egypt,China,Europe,Tibet,Australia,and probarbly Polar, so called "experts" like el stupido Mark Lehner and co...haven't got a clue really, the best Guy i've seen talking on pyramids..for usage anyway..is John Anthony West,

And i'm pretty damned sure that he knows ..or at least suspects a whole lot more.

Dammit...I gotta skoot...for the mo. Be interesting to see how this thread goes.

Cheers Pepes

Phoenix1

[oneofmany]

Thoth The Atlantean Built The Great Pyramid....and I have Lain in the Sarcophagus. Generator Ahem.
It is at least 36.000 years old.
If you are attuned....Go lie in it sometime...and really feel the Antiquity.
I had a MASSIVE headach after laying in there. And well....all I can say is try it sometime in this lifetime if you can..

I stand with Thoth, not convention...and bullshit carbon 14
---------
http://www.crystalinks.com/emeraldpreface.html

For some 16,000 years, he ruled the ancient race of Egypt, from approximately 52,000 B.C. to 36,000 B.C. At that time, the ancient barbarous race among which he and his followers had settled had been raised to a high degree of civilization.

Thoth was an immortal, that is, he had conquered death, passing only when he willed and even then not through death. His vast wisdom made him ruler over the various Atlantean colonies, including the ones in South and Central America.

When the time came for him to leave Egypt, he erected the Great Pyramid over the entrance to the Great Halls of Amenti, placed in it his records, and appointed guards for his secrets from among the highest of his people.

In later times, the descendants of these guards became the pyramid priests, by which Thoth was deified as the God of Wisdom, The Recorder, by those in the age of darkness which followed his passing. In legend, the Halls of Amenti became the underworld, the Halls of the gods, where the soul passed after death for judgment.
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Expecting the mainsteam conventional pyramidiot flack back LOL

Phoenix
you stole my thunder :D

there are also pyramids in Australia :eek: yes that's right

http://www.crystalinks.com/pyramidaustralia.html

http://www.science-frontiers.com/sf041/sf041p01.htm

and even evidence of an Egyptian civilisation in Australia

http://www.rexgilroy.com/

I agree phoenix1 that the pyramids are far older than the mainstream egyptologists would have us believe. I think John Anthony West is correct in this regard.

[i am all i am]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it was in 'Fingerprints of the Gods', by Graham Hancock, that the Giza pyramids and the Sphinx were water tested (water erosion) and they were dated back 200,000 years. It was that book or 'Gods of the New Millenium', by Alan Alford, or some other book.


With LOVE.

[oneofmany]

I'm not 100% sure, but I think it was in 'Fingerprints of the Gods', by Graham Hancock, that the Giza pyramids and the Sphinx were water tested (water erosion) and they were dated back 200,000 years. It was that book or 'Gods of the New Millenium', by Alan Alford, or some other book.


With LOVE.
There's a lot of conflicting opinions in this area, I don't recall the 200 000 date being mentioned in fingerprints of the gods, and I haven't read gods of the new mellenium. Interesting. Robert Schock (spelling???) went conservitave with his estimate of the sphinx as to not ruin his credibility, but his co author John Anthony West gave the date of 36 000 years or so ago at least and he bases his opinion on the alignment of the stars in relation to what the sphinx represents. His conservitave date for this was 10 500 bc, as this was the last time the alignment came to fruition but Mr West believes that the sphinx must have been built before 10 500 bc because that is the date of the alignment, so to point to it on time , it must have been built earlier. Please tell us more about the 200 000 year old theory? Im curious :)

[i am all i am]

There's a lot of conflicting opinions in this area, I don't recall the 200 000 date being mentioned in fingerprints of the gods, and I haven't read gods of the new mellenium. Interesting. Robert Schock (spelling???) went conservitave with his estimate of the sphinx as to not ruin his credibility, but his co author John Anthony West gave the date of 36 000 years or so ago at least and he bases his opinion on the alignment of the stars in relation to what the sphinx represents. His conservitave date for this was 10 500 bc, as this was the last time the alignment came to fruition but Mr West believes that the sphinx must have been built before 10 500 bc because that is the date of the alignment, so to point to it on time , it must have been built earlier. Please tell us more about the 200 000 year old theory? Im curious :)

10, 500 BC was also the time of the "flood" from the tales of gilgamesh, the bible, etc. Geological evidence. The water testing showed that at one time the Sphinx had been under water and therefore, it had to be before 10, 500 BC.

I'd also love to find out what's in the 'secret chamber' that Gattenbrink found by sending that robot up the air shaft, I think in the Queens chamber. Maybe it's the 'Hall of Records' and contains the complete 'Book of Thoth', among other things.


With LOVE.

[mynameis]

If the first one was ancient warefare the second was likely the flood and a major earth upheaval like the continental plates shifting.

[oneofmany]

10, 500 BC was also the time of the "flood" from the tales of gilgamesh, the bible, etc. Geological evidence. The water testing showed that at one time the Sphinx had been under water and therefore, it had to be before 10, 500 BC.

I'd also love to find out what's in the 'secret chamber' that Gattenbrink found by sending that robot up the air shaft, I think in the Queens chamber. Maybe it's the 'Hall of Records' and contains the complete 'Book of Thoth', among other things.


With LOVE.
Me too! It's been awful quiet since their failed attempt with their little rover thing.

[i am all i am]

Me too! It's been awful quiet since their failed attempt with their little rover thing.


Too much politics.

If they found anything significant, it would more than likely disprove the Bible and Koran as the fables that they are. So there is a vested interest for them not to find anything, or at least delay it as long as possible.

With LOVE.

[oneofmany]

I just found this thread in the daily news section about Hawass and the opening of the secret door.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2131

with any luck, we might just get some answers. or not