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truthseeker1980
23-03-2007, 12:25 PM
People from the UK will have witnessed this but for those who don't come from here, was there alot of preparation for war on your TV last night?

I can't beleive the sheer amount of propoganda for war on the BBC last night. The 10 o'clock news was being broadcast from Iraq under the heading Iraq 4 years on, with the usual anchor man out in Basra reporting.

They had a number of stories following the army around and showing gun fights between the so called insurgence and the British army, with the public in the firing line. There were also more reports about the situation from the puppets who orchastrated the illegal war.

Then some repeater news, if we say this and keep repeating it, then the public will believe us, that the alleged friends of the so called suicide bombers from 7/7, isn't that a COINCIDENCE they arrest some scape goats for the bombings on the same day as the reporting of Iraq and the middle east problems and how the war was good for the iraqi people.

Then a staged report from the UN conference in Iraq, with the building rocking as it nearly got bombed.

After the ten o'clock news was Question time, with former US ambassador to the UN John Bolton, being asked questions about wait for it the illegal Iraq war.

Even my flat mate and colleagues who still believe the repeater policy on news reports could see through this propoganda last night. there was too much, not to notice it.

I wonder when the US will move in on Iran, from the sheer amount of preparation on the BBC last night, maybe sooner than I thought.

synergy777
23-03-2007, 01:50 PM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=19556#post19556

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http://uk.reuters.com/article/topNew...33182120070323

"Incident" reported in Gulf waterway
Fri Mar 23, 2007 9:41AM GMT
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BASRA, Iraq (Reuters) - British forces said on Friday there had been "an incident" in the northern Arabian Gulf after an Iraqi sailor reported seeing up to seven British or American military personnel being seized by an Iranian ship.

"There has been an incident somewhere in the north of the Persian Gulf," British military spokesman Major David Gell said in the southern Iraqi city of Basra, without elaborating.

He said he did not know whether any British or American servicemen were involved.

The sailor, who works on a merchant vessel, said the incident took place on Thursday in the Shatt al-Arab waterway that marks the southern stretch of Iraq's border with Iran. His account could not be immediately confirmed.

The sailor said six or seven foreign military personnel were on two small boats that stopped to check two Iranian ships in the Siban area of the waterway, near the al-Faw peninsula that leads into the northern Arabian Gulf.

While they were doing this, an Iranian naval vessel pulled alongside and detained them. There was no sign of any violent confrontation, he said.

Iraq and Iran have a long history of disputes along the waterway. Iran briefly seized three British naval patrol boats in the area in June 2004.

In January 2006, the Iranian coastguard stopped three Iraqi vessels Tehran said had crossed into Iranian waters, prompting Iraqi officials to accuse Iran of taking hostage nine Iraqis working on the vessels.

this could be the start. last night the bbc2 /1 was awash with propaganda. however the most refreshing thing was the level of awareness of the public, never thought i would say it, but it looks like there are people who have brains and can critically think and see through the neo con/imperial agenda. there is some hope after all for the masses. i had a good guess on 7/7 after reading the goro stuff, this is date number 2 i have chose that is close.

synergy777
23-03-2007, 01:51 PM
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March 23 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

625 - Battle of Uhud takes place between Muslims and Pagans in Arabia

1775 - American Revolutionary War: Patrick Henry delivers his famous speech -"give me liberty or give me death" at St. John's Church in Richmond, Virginia.

752 - Stephen is elected Pope. He died three days later, before being ordained bishop, and is not considered a legitimate pope. (how does this affect st malachy's propehcies, the last two popes.)

1889 - The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community was established by Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad in Qadian India.

1933 - The Reichstag passes the Enabling act of 1933, making Adolf Hitler dictator of Germany

1965 - NASA launches Gemini 3, the United States' first two-man space flight (crew: Gus Grissom and John Young).

2001 - The Russian Mir space station is disposed of, breaking up in the atmosphere before falling into the southern Pacific Ocean near Fiji. (see goro adachi)

2003 - In Nasiriyah, Iraq, 11 soldiers of the 507th Maintenance Company as well as 18 U.S. Marines are killed during the first major conflict of Operation Iraqi Freedom.

2006 - Federal Reserve discontinues publishing M3 money supply

pedsi
23-03-2007, 02:03 PM
People from the UK will have witnessed this but for those who don't come from here, was there alot of preparation for war on your TV last night?

I can't beleive the sheer amount of propoganda for war on the BBC last night. The 10 o'clock news was being broadcast from Iraq under the heading Iraq 4 years on, with the usual anchor man out in Basra reporting.

They had a number of stories following the army around and showing gun fights between the so called insurgence and the British army, with the public in the firing line. There were also more reports about the situation from the puppets who orchastrated the illegal war.

Then some repeater news, if we say this and keep repeating it, then the public will believe us, that the alleged friends of the so called suicide bombers from 7/7, isn't that a COINCIDENCE they arrest some scape goats for the bombings on the same day as the reporting of Iraq and the middle east problems and how the war was good for the iraqi people.

Then a staged report from the UN conference in Iraq, with the building rocking as it nearly got bombed.

After the ten o'clock news was Question time, with former US ambassador to the UN John Bolton, being asked questions about wait for it the illegal Iraq war.

Even my flat mate and colleagues who still believe the repeater policy on news reports could see through this propoganda last night. there was too much, not to notice it.

I wonder when the US will move in on Iran, from the sheer amount of preparation on the BBC last night, maybe sooner than I thought.

Did you notice the the couple with the young girl being interviewed,the father and the daughter who could'nt have been more than 3yrs old were both sitting with cans of coca cola in their hands.A little bit of advertising thrown in for good measure????

falseflag
23-03-2007, 03:52 PM
BBC NEWS 24, are going ape-shit at the moment on this, as expected. This stinks (pre-planned agenda as we all know),I hope the populace ask themselves, why the fuck Iran would risk creating a situation with all the tension of late.

mynameis
23-03-2007, 04:02 PM
Why does the camera turn to the Head of the UN like it was meant to focus on him. Why should the camera shake much at all?

Hmmm.....
http://video.google.com/url?docid=79272602...KJLireMO42k74uA (http://video.google.com/url?docid=792726026553287247&esrc=sr1&ev=v&q=UN+chief+rattled+by+mortar+blast+at+Iraq+talks&vidurl=http://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DCwBUHwDqYk8&usg=AL29H21tZzaTVHg7ES6KJLireMO42k74uA)

I smell stage direction and video edits. Where's the other videos? Let me guess they disappeared into the government Disney vaults.

synergy777
23-03-2007, 06:22 PM
http://www.alislam.org/

http://www.alislam.org/topics/jesus/index.php

Ahmadiyya Muslim Community declares that Jesus Christ only fell into a swoon on the Cross, but when he was taken down from it, he recovered and migrated to Kashmir, India where he died a natural death at the age of 120.

synergy777
23-03-2007, 06:30 PM
whatever the future, as long as we stick together it will be all good, all peoples united.

1 love, love conquers all.

mrguitarbear
23-03-2007, 06:50 PM
This could be another ' Gulf of Tonkin ' situation to give the Allies a ' causus belli ' for an attack on Iran.

Another three months and the war in Iraq will have lasted longer than WW1.

synergy777
23-03-2007, 07:36 PM
1931 - Bhagat Singh, Rajguru and Sukhdev embrace the gallows during the Indian struggle for independence. Their request to be shot by a firing squad is refused.

missed it on the first post.

whatever happens now, lets be true to our souls, ideals, lets transecnd historical diffrences and unite to show the way forward togther, with equality, unity and humility. this might just be sabre rattling or its might be the start of something big, whatever it is, we gotta step up to the plate.

siliconpsychosis
23-03-2007, 07:46 PM
Plus with the wonderful timing of the release of the film 300, I think a lot of people believe a war with Iran is inevitable. By the way the Uk Metro review of 300 today described the film as homophobic and fascist. Perfect ingredients for the propaganda warmongers.

synergy777
23-03-2007, 07:51 PM
maybe they should release spartacus or gladiator, the slaves revolting against the elite,

what we do now will echo for eternity.

russel crowe hey from romper stomper to gladiator.

mrguitarbear
24-03-2007, 12:52 AM
russel crowe hey from romper stomper to gladiator.

Even better , from ' Romper Stomper ' to playing John Nash in ' A Beautiful Mind '. The inventor of game theory itself no less.

mynameis
24-03-2007, 04:19 AM
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light worker
24-03-2007, 01:12 PM
This all reminds me of that film Starship Troopers from 97. The build up to war and the stupid propaganda is just like the way that film represented it in terms of the media methodology.

truthseeker1980
29-03-2007, 02:32 PM
Last night's news was awash with the war propoganda again on the BBC, it even looks like a proper movie the way they report it now.

They showed Faye one of the supposed captured navy personnell, being interveiwed whilst with her captors with a head scarf on, I didn't really listen as all I see now is a just a load of made up propoganda.

What did catch my attention was the really in your face coincidence, when they played another interview of Faye, 3 days before she supposidly got taken by the iranian army. By sheer amazing coincidence the BBC interviewed her a few days before the capture, now that to me is blatant eveidence that it's all just for the news movie to encite the public ready for war. Which incidently was about the fact she was a mother, so the report then continued as a mother who has been taken by the Iranian's, hence using the heart string pulling technique to get the war into peoples minds and make them want to invade.

Then they had a few other reports with the title (the Iran stand off nearly a week on). It's strange i posted the BBC original post just before the iranian soldiers were taken and that now they are reporting it as a the iranian stand off, when the first report was Iraq 4 years on.

Let's see what tomorrow brings, or maybe even today.

The BBC is becoming a laughable channel, blatantly orchestrated to brain wash the masses into wanting a war with Iran, maybe the plan is not for just project blue beam but everything all in one, WW3, blue beam and mind control by ELF pulses.

Let's keep observing.

synergy777
29-03-2007, 02:55 PM
Even better , from ' Romper Stomper ' to playing John Nash in ' A Beautiful Mind '. The inventor of game theory itself no less.

he has range as an actor. game theory, von neumen/oppenheimer were pretty cool too. although teskla was the best ever, thats why the mainstreeam coverage of tesla is non exisietent.

J. Robert Oppenheimer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
John von Neumann - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Game theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

edward teller was an elite sell out, inferior minds crave elite acceptance, its all esteem/security issue. although to be honest hollywood makes me sick the way it portrays the eccentricty of people like john nash, kim peek, its all bullshit. real people are far more vile and putrid when in the presence of minds greater than theirs. the only good portrayal of aspie/hfa was good will hunting, the bit with the nsa interveiw. the rest descended into sacharrine holly crap.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0119217/quotes
Will: Why shouldn't I work for the N.S.A.? That's a tough one, but I'll give it a shot. Say I'm working at N.S.A. Somebody puts a code on my desk, something nobody else can break. So I take a shot at it and maybe I break it. And I'm real happy with myself, 'cause I did my job well. But maybe that code was the location of some rebel army in North Africa or the Middle East. Once they have that location, they bomb the village where the rebels were hiding and fifteen hundred people I never had a problem with get killed. Now the politicians are sayin', "Send in the marines to secure the area" 'cause they don't give a shit. It won't be their kid over there, gettin' shot. Just like it wasn't them when their number was called, 'cause they were pullin' a tour in the National Guard. It'll be some guy from Southie takin' shrapnel in the ass. And he comes home to find that the plant he used to work at got exported to the country he just got back from. And the guy who put the shrapnel in his ass got his old job, 'cause he'll work for fifteen cents a day and no bathroom breaks. Meanwhile my buddy from Southie realizes the only reason he was over there was so we could install a government that would sell us oil at a good price. And of course the oil companies used the skirmish to scare up oil prices so they could turn a quick buck. A cute little ancillary benefit for them but it ain't helping my buddy at two-fifty a gallon. And naturally they're takin' their sweet time bringin' the oil back, and maybe even took the liberty of hiring an alcoholic skipper who likes to drink martinis and play slalom with the icebergs, and it ain't too long 'til he hits one, spills the oil and kills all the sea life in the North Atlantic. So my buddy's out of work and he can't afford to drive, so he's got to walk to the job interviews, which sucks 'cause the shrapnel in his ass is givin' him chronic hemorrhoids. And meanwhile he's starvin' 'cause every time he tries to get a bite to eat the only blue plate special they're servin' is North Atlantic scrod with Quaker State. So what do I think? I'm holdin' out for somethin' better. Why not just shoot my buddy, take his job and give it to his sworn enemy, hike up gas prices, bomb a village, club a baby seal, hit the hash pipe and join the National Guard? I could be elected president.


thats life.

synergy777
29-03-2007, 03:05 PM
newsnight ripped the footage apart i was shocked, they basically alluded to the fact it could have been uk made footage and not iranian. there were no iranians in the footage, the navy personnel still had his sa80 rifle after being captured whilst conviently standing next to the iranian flag, lets aquaint ourselves with military procedure after capturing military personnel, is it protocol to disarm them, if so, why would the iranian not disarm them , why no coverage of the iranian gleefully exhibiting their catch. its a worse job than the fat nose osama. i was shocked that newsnight were this brave and showed the video to be rush edit. will the people wake up, will they fuck.

xdnax
29-03-2007, 07:32 PM
BBC NEWS 24, are going ape-shit at the moment on this, as expected. This stinks (pre-planned agenda as we all know),I hope the populace ask themselves, why the fuck Iran would risk creating a situation with all the tension of late.



that's what's really annoying me right now!!!! it's so fucking obvious!!!
the BBC had a reporter filming on the ship....well how fucking coincidental!!!!!
please!

synergy777
30-03-2007, 02:51 PM
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/march2007/290307staged.htm

Was The British-Iranian Hostage Crisis Staged?

Surfing the Apocalypse
Thursday, March 29, 2007

Many of you may be rightly highly suspicious of the timing of all this.

Evidently it appears that there is far more to this so called British hostage capture crisis than what has thus far been reported by virtually all of the MSM.

In a very revealing analytical studio commentary on The BBC's Newsnight programme last night: Diplomatic Editor: Mark Urban demonstrated to Host: Jeremy Paxman: that the video footage released by the Iranians yesterday - of those 15 British service personnel being "captured" - seems to have been FAKED in large part!

He also went on to illustrate how viritually inconceivable it is that such an event (like the alleged "ambush" of British Military personnel by the Iranians) could actually happen: given the fact that the area of water where this event supposedly took place was well within the Radar Scope of HMS Cornwall (not to mention a whole host of other vessels: WHICH WERE ALL MYSTERIOUSLY ABSENT at the moment when the Iranian interception party appeared on the scene!)

From this both he & show Host Jeremy Paxman conclude that The Royal Navy were (at the very least!) grossly negligent in their duty of policing The Shat Al Arab/International Waterways (hence their clamour to blitz the Media with "evidence" of their "innocence".)

It is when one considers the implications of what The BBC are getting at (but not saying directly!) that one realizes this entire thing may have really been a deliberate SET UP: i.e. either a TRAP laid by The British for The Iranians to fall into, or (even more mind bogglingly!) a TRAP laid by The British AND The Iranians (together with everyone else within The NWO Club) for The World to fall into!!!

Watch the requisite report from the aforementioned Newsnight programme, and judge for yourselves:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/player/nol/newsid_4670000/newsid.........

synergy777
30-03-2007, 02:54 PM
http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/march2007/280307Drama.htm

Brit “Hostage” Drama Pales in Comparison to MI6 and CIA Crimes Against Iran

Kurt Nimmo
Thursday, March 29, 2007

“Perhaps we should get some perspective by imagining how we might react if the Iranians had occupied France and were patrolling the English channel,” runs a post on the UK Telegraph, responding to the capture of 15 British sailors by Iran.

Indeed. But I can think of one better.

Perhaps we’d get some perspective if we realized MI6 and the CIA plotted against the democratically elected government of Mohammad Mossadegh in 1953. “If there had not been a military coup, there would not have been 25 years of the Shah’s brutal regime, there would not have been a revolution in 1979 and a government of clerics,” Ibrahim Yazdi, a former foreign minister and leading member of a political party that traces its origins to Mossadegh’s National Front, told the Christian Science Monitor on the 50th anniversary of the coup and installation of the Shah. “Now it seems that the Americans are pushing towards the same direction again. That shows they have not learned anything from history.”

“When Iranians rose up against the Shah with cries of ‘Death to the American Shah!,’ when their new regime emerged as bitterly anti-American, and when a group of them took American diplomats hostage in 1979, many Americans wondered how this could have happened in a country they had always considered friendly,” Stephen Kinzer, author of All the Shah’s Men, told the History News Network. “Once they understand what the United States did to Iran in 1953, they will understand why so many Iranians became angry at the United States.”

“For many Iranians, the coup was a tragedy from which their country has never recovered. Perhaps because Mossadegh represents a future denied, his memory has approached myth,” Dan De Luce writes for the Guardian. “Beyond Iran, America remains deeply resented for siding with authoritarian rule in the region.”

Of course, the average American, who likely would have a difficult time finding Iran on a map, is almost completely ignorant of these historical facts. He does not know that the Shah’s secret police, SAVAK, trained by the CIA and Israel’s Mossad, “became a law unto itself, having legal authority to arrest and detain suspected persons indefinitely” and “operated its own prisons in Tehran (the Komiteh and Evin facilities) and, many suspected, throughout the country as well. SAVAK’s torture methods included electric shock, whipping, beating, inserting broken glass and pouring boiling water into the rectum, tying weights to the testicles, and the extraction of teeth and nails,” according to the Federation of American Scientists.

Finally, Britain’s largest newspaper, in fact the highest circulation newspaper in the world, neocon Rupert Murdoch’s Sun, amidst banner ads of naked women showing off curvy derrieres, declares Leading Seaman Faye Turney “was forced on the orders of ranting president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to write a letter of apology to the Iranian people.”

Even if true, this is a shade better than being kidnapped in Afghanistan, Iraq, or on the streets of Milan, Italy, and “extraordinarily” rendered by the CIA and sent to Egypt, Jordan, Syria, Morocco, or Uzbekistan to be tortured.

No doubt Ahmadinejad’s alleged rant is mild when compared to water boarding or the sort of severe trauma inflicted on prisoners at the Bagram torture facility (said to be comparable to being run over by a bus) or for that matter rape by way of chemical light at Abu Ghraib.

synergy777
30-03-2007, 02:56 PM
"There are no innocent civilians, so it doesn't bother me so much to be killing innocent bystanders."
General Curtis E. LeMay

siliconpsychosis
30-03-2007, 08:01 PM
Although this fact has already been pointed out on this thread, I think it may be important to emphasise the following point.
Its extraordinary how the BBC journalists appear to have psychic abilities, again. Its amazing how the BBC managed to get an interview with Faye Turney only hours before the supposed kidnapping. And then to apparently film the whole kidnapping event!
This reminds me of the recent controversy surrounding the BBC reporting the collapse of the Salamon Building before it happened on September 11th.
The whole scenario simply reinforces my conviction that the media is under control by Lizard Corp. They don't seem to care how people are realising how obviously setup the whole incident is.