How many of you meditate regularly?

[thoth]

Any of you meditate regularly? I have been meditating alot in the last year and a half and have noticed some sensations all over my head, but mostly the frontal lobe region. I have experienced some way out shit while meditating. Any one else experience this?

[rossus]

i meditate daily and love it. i usually do it in the early afternoon (1PM) but...

i'm trying to make it a habit to meditate for about 1-2 hours at 6.00 AM.
this makes for a kickass start of the day. unfortunately i've not gotten to this yet because i give in to my ego too often early in the morning :p
2 hours in the early morning, and 1 hour in the early afternoon sounds perfect to me

meditation is something i try to do 24/7 though,
but when i speak of meditation i mean sitting on my ass and try to die in meditation more attentively then usually possible :)


i experience often a feeling in my brain which reminds me of the serotonin-release effect created by the illegal drug MDMA.
it's not as euphoric and lasts only 20 seconds or so, just a nice tingling i like :) i don't know if this is because of meditation or past drug use. i think the latter :p
other than that i don't notice any "weird shit". i do notice love, beingness, ...
what kind of weird shit are you talking about?


there is different kinds of meditation, i used to do it "wrong" for a long time. i was zoning out into a trance and experiencing also weird shit.
then one day i downloaded this free guided meditation file (http://users.telenet.be/psy/muziek/learnmeditation/) and learned how to meditate that way.
i only used the mp3 a couple of times ofcourse, because it's not fun to listen to someone talking when meditating....

but I enjoy the results of the meditation explained there far better :)

[tru3]

Any of you meditate regularly? I have been meditating alot in the last year and a half and have noticed some sensations all over my head, but mostly the frontal lobe region. I have experienced some way out shit while meditating. Any one else experience this?


third eye opening?

i get a tingling at the top of my skull (crown chakra).

wild shit-- yes, it comes and goes, like other images and thoughts. i try not to get too excited about it anymore. it was an impediment, for me. :)

i still meditate every day, but i feel my pracitise really deepened with contemplation. just practising mindfulness as i go about my business, not holding on to thoughts letting them arise and fall all day long. the more i do this, the more aware i become of just how many "hooks" are all around me that i was never aware of when i was younger. the use of color, shape, sound, emotion, as forms of sorcery to ensnare consciousness.

it happens to most people, if we're not aware. the mechanics are built in to the structure of the bodymind. i looked at "the scariest picture ever" once when the thread first started, and i just would not go back to that thread. i could tell it was "hooking" me. it was creating a resonance pattern in my mind. i feel my personality is susceptible to that, anyway, so i really have to be mindful of myself, my thoughts and what i expose consciousness to. but that's probably just me, i'm sure.

[Anders Lindman]

I use Eckhart Tolle's practice of having awareness inside my body. Not 24/7, because often my mind slips back into its mental (all in the head) thought world and then the awareness of the inner body is lost, but when I remember, I try to bring back my awareness into the body. So its not a scheduled kind of meditation, but rather something that can be done at anytime, such as when writing a post like this or when watching television and so on.

[thoth]

For some reason, meditation came natural for me. At first, I would visualize mandalas spinning in my mind and then I would use my own personal mantras. What really did it for me was when I visualized myself dying in a nuclear explosion. This really helped me let go. After about 10 tries or so, the mantras of "this is all and illusion" and "I am pure consciousness" put me into a trance where I felt like my eyes sunk into my brain! This is the only way I can describe it. After this, I would experience psychadelic images all of kinds. I saw my hometown fizzle out into colors and then there was this "Black Hole" thing. It was like a black hole that had all of these colors coming out of it. At first, maybe like 3 times during meditation, the colors just oozed out of the whole. Then, one day, the hole 'decided' to suck me in! It was very intense. Whats fucked up is that when I felt it was too much and I opened my eyes, the psychadelic shit was still there! I could see my entertainment system, door, and pile of laundry glowing, as if I could see sometype of energy coming from it! This was intense. But I did not want to stop, I just kept doing it. This was like, 30 tries into it.

Then came the "whirl pool". This is what I call when you get so deep into it that it feels like your whole head becomes liquid and spins around really fast! At first, it was really uncomfortable, but after awhile, I looked forward to it. It didn't happen everytime, but just when I was really into it, which for me is like 80 percent of the time. When we meditate, and we "trandscend", the pineal releases dmt, so seeing images like this is common for transcending meditation. Not everyone who meditates utilizes this method. Most people are into Samadhi meditation, used for relaxation and gaining energy. This is very affective also. Transcending is for openind your mind up into the etheric and higher energetic bodies, ie. higher dimensional space. BTW, dmt and serotonin are very similar in appearance and production by the brain. I have experience much now since I have transcended about 400 + times. I have experienced many "trips" better than any people have experienced on lsd and I have never tried it.

Its funny, because after the "Black Hole" thingy, it seemed like I was always at that "place". I can feel energy easier now. Subtle and powerful. Once when I came out of meditation, I felt as if trees were trying to get my attention some how. I know it seems strange, but its true. Not only that, but I could feel the vibration coming off a plant with my hand by being 4 inches away from it. SOmetimes, I travel through what seems to be "space". I call it space because its dark like space and it has what appear to be large balls of light. Since they don't move from my point of awareness, i call them "stars". I also move though what appear to be "wormholes". Sometimes, when I close my eyes, in waking life, I see them. I could write alot about what experiences aI have had, but I feel that not many people have experience this and alot of what I say will sound delusional. I know now that I have alot of frontal lobe activity and my concentration levels have increased by 20. WHen I go four or five days without meditation, I get angry, as if its a drug and I am addicted. But if its DMT my brain is producing, then I may be addicted to it.

Personally, I think that this form of meditation may help us reconnect multidimensionally. During near death experiences and upon death, the brain excretes massive amounts of DMT. I think that it is a way, naturally, to break the space time barrier, and even more, self regenerate. If what we are trying to do is reconnect with the infinite us or one state of consciousness, christ consciousness, whatever, then this is one way of doing it. I have experienced total nothingness and higher states of energy, pure consciousness. The thing is is that I am still only on the tip of the iceberg. Alot of my own personal fears are holding me back from being able to break the barriers I have already broken. I KNOW that there where levels much higher than the ones I was at, but I am still very afraid of being "out there". I know that there are beings who would like to harm my psche. I was reading the Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot and he wrote of this story about a Prof who went to India and gave the people there psychadlic drugs as research. Now granted, this was in the late 60s, so it was perfectly normal for this type of research to be going on. Trust me, the governemt has put billions into researching the paranormal, remote viewing, lsd, dmt, PK and countless other phenomena, its ridiculous. ANyway, this prof gave some monks lsd in different locations and got several responses. One monk stated that the lsd just gave him a headache. ANother stated that it was just ok, but it was nothing like meditation! This is powerful, because it shows that transcending during meditation is exactly the same thing as a psychadelic trip when performed a certain way. Most importantly, in the higher mountain region of the area, the Prof met an older monk, around 70, and he figured that since he was so old, that he should give him a small does, around 50 or 70 mlg. But the old man insisted that he give him a pill around 350 mlg! Afterwards, the lsd did nothing. The Prof astounded, gave him another 350 mlg, still no effects. Finally, after 950 mlg, the old man still was not phased. The Prof quit his job as a Prof and became a mystic and followed the old man around learning the ways of the mystics. What does this mean? Does this mean that the man had experienced levels of awareness like this already during meditation, or that he is always capable of making his mind go into states of consciousness like this? I he always there? I think this may be the case. This is very interesting indeed. Further, when I was 12, I was hit in my frontal lobe with a brick and was blacked out for sometime while bleeding everywhere. I never went to the hospital either. I am pretty sure had a concusion, but I wonder if any damage was done to my frontal lobe? Would this make transceding easier?

[thoth]

third eye opening?

i get a tingling at the top of my skull (crown chakra).

wild shit-- yes, it comes and goes, like other images and thoughts. i try not to get too excited about it anymore. it was an impediment, for me. :)

i still meditate every day, but i feel my pracitise really deepened with contemplation. just practising mindfulness as i go about my business, not holding on to thoughts letting them arise and fall all day long. the more i do this, the more aware i become of just how many "hooks" are all around me that i was never aware of when i was younger. the use of color, shape, sound, emotion, as forms of sorcery to ensnare consciousness.

it happens to most people, if we're not aware. the mechanics are built in to the structure of the bodymind. i looked at "the scariest picture ever" once when the thread first started, and i just would not go back to that thread. i could tell it was "hooking" me. it was creating a resonance pattern in my mind. i feel my personality is susceptible to that, anyway, so i really have to be mindful of myself, my thoughts and what i expose consciousness to. but that's probably just me, i'm sure.


I am starting to think that the "trips" are a part of it. I never really used conventional methods because when I started, I was already consciously aware of the possibilities, higher dimensional reality and much about the nature of reality in general. It only took me about 10 times to transcend for the first time.

[tru3]

:D For some reason, meditation came natural for me. At first, I would visualize mandalas spinning in my mind and then I would use my own personal mantras. What really did it for me was when I visualized myself dying in a nuclear explosion. This really helped me let go.

that's really interesting, thoth. spontaneous things like this are auspicious. that's a very old meditation technique: meditating on the impermanence of life. monks used to meditate in charnel houses: maybe you were one in a previous life! :)

i've seen my body, dead, laying in a morgue. i've seen ants and beetles devour my body as i sat in a forest and meditated without ceasing. these were things that happened spontaneously for me, that i found later were common themes that arise, or people are urged to experience.

WHen I go four or five days without meditation, I get angry, as if its a drug and I am addicted. But if its DMT my brain is producing, then I may be addicted to it.

i understand what you mean. i get cranky too. in fact, i hit a "wall" about 3-4 years ago; i literally felt this despair between the peace i was feeling in meditation and the disjoint and emotions i felt in the "real world". so, i still get that way sometimes, but i think it's a phase most people pass through.

like the boredom of it! lol :D

I use Eckhart Tolle's practice of having awareness inside my body. Not 24/7, because often my mind slips back into its mental (all in the head) thought world and then the awareness of the inner body is lost, but when I remember, I try to bring back my awareness into the body. So its not a scheduled kind of meditation, but rather something that can be done at anytime, such as when writing a post like this or when watching television and so on.

i think that's great, anders. i practise a version of self-enquiry, too. of course, we're going to fall out of contemplation, and back into the dreamworld. we've got these giant radio antennae called the human body lol.

at the very least, i look at it this way: there's certainly mass hypnosis being performed on the collective consciousness, in mass media, etc. if i'm going to be hypnotised, I AM the one that will choose the vehicle of hypnosis, thank you very much! ;)

[thoth]

at the very least, i look at it this way: there's certainly mass hypnosis being performed on the collective consciousness, in mass media, etc. if i'm going to be hypnotised, I AM the one that will choose the vehicle of hypnosis, thank you very much! ;)[/QUOTE]


Exactly

[thoth]

:D

that's really interesting, thoth. spontaneous things like this are auspicious. that's a very old meditation technique: meditating on the impermanence of life. monks used to meditate in charnel houses: maybe you were one in a previous life! :)

i've seen my body, dead, laying in a morgue. i've seen ants and beetles devour my body as i sat in a forest and meditated without ceasing. these were things that happened spontaneously for me, that i found later were common themes that arise, or people are urged to experience.



i understand what you mean. i get cranky too. in fact, i hit a "wall" about 3-4 years ago; i literally felt this despair between the peace i was feeling in meditation and the disjoint and emotions i felt in the "real world". so, i still get that way sometimes, but i think it's a phase most people pass through.

like the boredom of it! lol :D



i think that's great, anders. i practise a version of self-enquiry, too. of course, we're going to fall out of contemplation, and back into the dreamworld. we've got these giant radio antennae called the human body lol.

at the very least, i look at it this way: there's certainly mass hypnosis being performed on the collective consciousness, in mass media, etc. if i'm going to be hypnotised, I AM the one that will choose the vehicle of hypnosis, thank you very much! ;)


Sometimes the "whirlpool" gets really intense and I have to come back into "waking reality". If we really are connected, and if the whole universe is inside of me, then naturally I can transcend to other realities right here from home.

[jagalman]

Its been long time for me since i meditate!! maybe a year or 2!
i think maybe because of to much (workout-sport) i dont need it anymore!
i just experience new things and new dimension of energy!! and how i control it!

[rebel ins]

I meditate when I want to, there isn't any pattern

[rossus]

i just meditated and i notice that after a small 60 minutes my brain activity seems to drop and thoughts become veryvery weak almost non-existent... there is only silence.
i can feel a pressure in my head is gone now, but not really a pressure it's like... a rope has been cut true.... and that rope is the constant train of thoughts


i am still at this place right now there is no division here only the whole. to get to this place the " I " must die though... so all the drama's tied to it can also die,
and for some reason this does not always go very easy. my ego prefers to live :p

but to me nothing tastes as sweet as death. so the reason i meditate is to die

[aznality]

^When I meditate for a long enough period (at least 15-20 mins maybe?), I notice too that the pressure around my head has vanished. My mind has become so clear that it's pretty much an indescribable feeling. It's like everything is so calm and still. It's not a bad feeling actually either. It feels so great to just completely let go. Even my thoughts feel much different when all the brain frequencies have slowed down.

But I'm sure my level of meditation is just the beginning right? I still have very far to go to master it.

[rossus]

But I'm sure my level of meditation is just the beginning right? I still have very far to go to master it.
it's only recently i have reached "no-thought" zone myself, and i can still probably go much deeper than i already have.

i have meditated for only a small year maybe... 10 months or something.
and it's only since about 3 months or so that i'm doing it "right" (the method of mp3file i posted)...



i don't know what it's like to have actually "mastered" it... or if such thing is even possible.
there are people who seem like "they mastered it", because they have let go pretty deep...
but you can probably always go deeper and deeper into acceptance and stilness.

the paradox is that there is not really anyone there who can meditate. the person can concentrate, but the person cannot meditate.
the person can allow himself to die, and to melt into meditation... but meditate? not really.



to get good at meditation a couple of words of a teacher to put you on your way is necessary i think.
personally i like Adyashanti and Gangaji. the diamond in your pocket is a good book by gangaji.
recently i'm getting also into osho a bit.

teachers can only get you to a certain point though. the teacher that knows best and will always be able to teach you most is your own teacher...
your "self".... god...stilness... love... awareness... "truth"...

[intruder]

I've practiced meditation for over 10 years and I have yet to experience "far out shit..." At one time, I thought that was the goal of meditation...WRONG!!!!! I really endorse Jon Kabat-Zinn's "Mindfulness Meditation" CD. It's NOT about visions....celestial beings.....ar practicing it enough that maybe, just maybe....with great dedication....YOU'LL ACHIEVE ENLIGHTENMENT IN 13 MORE incarnations...and escape the wheel of samsara...!!! Sounds mighty impressive doesn't it?
NO...you're dying and being reborn IN THIS MOMENT!! So yes, IT IS a death and resurrection story, and I feel that David Icke, in his haste to dismiss the Bible and such misses the metaphor.I mean, our stomach linings alone replace themselves every 5 days....
Anyway...through patience and dedication as well as input from Jon Kabat-Zinn, Deepak Chopra, Eckhart Tolle, Paramahansa Yogananda, and yes...the Bible....."be still and know that I am god..." I have been able to quiet my mind...reduce stress, achieve deeper sleep...and feel a greater balance within my life