Sci-fi? Can microchips control us? How?

[LasseMaja]

Icke have predicted the human micro chipping for a long time, and we see it coming by the day. No doubt about that.

But claiming that the microchip will actually have the ability to remotely control us, via our emotions is kind of a sci-fi claim.
How will this work? Through bombing of radio waves? Will the chip work as a receiver to empower the radio frequencies?
Any sources? Studies? Animal tests?

We have long known that chemicals can alter ones mood and behavior.
But what do we know about the unseen forces?

Thanks for clearing things up for me!

By the way; I found this article on globalresearch.ca:
"On the Need for New Criteria of Diagnosis of Psychosis in the Light of Mind Invasive Technology"
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7123

[deca]

remember the brain is a electro/chemical devices.
As far as I know they don`t need chips to infulence your behaviour with Radiowaves/microwaves
inserting a chip probadly involves a complcated operation on your brain to insert the chip and places electrodes there. The brain has been hacked and pulsed microwaves can been beamed directly at you and different frequencys, no chip needed. Microwave hearing http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microwave_auditory_effect
also look at brain entertainment
just a quick google link (I need to find a better one oneday)http://alanmallinick.com/html/soundlight.html

check out TMS http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcranial_magnetic_stimulation

I also have a thread on here

mind control electronic harrasment
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=617

Its a bit slow and I was not well informed when I started this thread but gets better as it progresses

[coshh]

Whether it has ever been done or not I would think it would be well within current technological capabilities to create something which would be able stimulate the pain and pleasure centers of the brain by remote.
That way you could control for behavior but not for thought.

It might also be technically feasible to create something which would be able to detect a general emotional state and alter it (anxiety vs calm, happy vs despairing).

But I do not think it would be technically feasible to detect specific thoughts and control those using a brain implant.

[deca]

But I do not think it would be technically feasible to detect specific thoughts and control those using a brain implant

whats these coming soon for your game consol then?
Brain control headset for gamers
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7254078.stm


Gamers will soon be able to interact with the virtual world using their thoughts and emotions alone.

A neuro-headset which interprets the interaction of neurons in the brain will go on sale later this year.

"It picks up electrical activity from the brain and sends wireless signals to a computer," said Tan Le, president of US/Australian firm Emotiv.

"It allows the user to manipulate a game or virtual environment naturally and intuitively," she added.

The brain is made up of about 100 billion nerve cells, or neurons, which emit an electrical impulse when interacting. The headset implements a technology known as non-invasive electroencephalography (EEG) to read the neural activity.


Ms Le said: "Emotiv is a neuro-engineering company and we've created a brain computer interface that reads electrical impulses in the brain and translates them into commands that a video game can accept and control the game dynamically."


See how the headset works
Headsets which read neural activity are not new, but Ms Le said the Epoc was the first consumer device that can be used for gaming.

"This is the first headset that doesn't require a large net of electrodes, or a technician to calibrate or operate it and does require gel on the scalp," she said. "It also doesn't cost tens of thousands of dollars."

The use of Electroencephalography in medical practice dates back almost 100 years but it is only since the 1970s that the procedure has been used to explore brain computer interfaces.

The headset could be used to improve the realism of emotional responses of AI characters in games

Tan Le, Emotiv

The Epoc technology can be used to give authentic facial expressions to avatars of gamers in virtual worlds. For example, if the player smiles, winks, grimaces the headset can detect the expression and translate it to the avatar in game.

It can also read emotions of players and translate those to the virtual world. "The headset could be used to improve the realism of emotional responses of AI characters in games," said Ms Le.

"If you laughed or felt happy after killing a character in a game then your virtual buddy could admonish you for being callous," she explained.

The $299 headset has a gyroscope to detect movement and has wireless capabilities to communicate with a USB dongle plugged into a computer.

The Emotiv said the headset could detects more than 30 different expressions, emotions and actions.

They include excitement, meditation, tension and frustration; facial expressions such as smile, laugh, wink, shock (eyebrows raised), anger (eyebrows furrowed); and cognitive actions such as push, pull, lift, drop and rotate (on six different axis).

Gamers are able to move objects in the world just by thinking of the action.

Emotiv is working with IBM to develop the technology for uses in "strategic enterprise business markets and virtual worlds"

Paul Ledak, vice president, IBM Digital Convergence said brain computer interfaces, like the Epoc headset were an important component of the future 3D Internet and the future of virtual communication.



video on link

http://emotiv.com/corporate/

also this
NeuroSky - CTIA 2007
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTYXOMuVL5E

http://www.neurosky.biz/

You are so out of date

[coshh]

When I say thoughts I mean things you hear in your head not the kind of thing that allows motion.
It is true that we can train machines (and people) to interact to do that sort of thing.
It is not yet the case we could get a machine to actually understand a complex abstract thought though.

[armoured_amazon]

Someone posted a video on this site of controlled animals from the 60s. Of course they can control humans via electronics.

[chicken]

chips to infulence your behaviour with Radiowaves/microwaves
inserting a chip probably involves a complicated operation on your brain to insert the chip and places electrodes there.

AND as you said probably, but it has been said inserted up your nose can be a way to add chip to your head..a special device is used...?

Another way is a recent discovery which I have not seen people on here mention, which is liquid crystal implantation. Apparently inserted into the blood stream so the stuff takes a walk all over the body..

Now how would you remove that one? Blood transfusion?

chicken

[chicken]

But I do not think it would be technically feasible to detect specific thoughts and control those using a brain implant.

How do you know?

Nasa was inserting electrodes into Astronauts to read their thoughts when they went to the moon. A recent study in New Scientist showed electrodes affixed to the throat, voice box area to utilise the sub vocalised speech concept....

Look up Peter Guy Manners regarding cymatics and brain states resonation, sometimes called the Dosimetry Handbook, also utilised by the military...and since the concept of brain states experimentation is part of the Nazi effect on people and as we know part of the new age movement as well by default.

The idea of the word energy then has a different meaning....

Cymatics is the practise of passing pain and pleasure into a human body, but on the main to cure pain. Cymatics is about the passing of sound through liquid, understanding Quantum mechanics will get you to see that it travels faster than the speed of light it is known as generally esoteric technology which I suppose is apt....

sound in liquid good for voice to skull and pain in the body.....it would go some way to explain the phenomena

chicken

[chicken]

http://www.wired.com/science/discoveries/news/2002/02/50483

point and shoot sound could be done this way...

chicken

[coshh]

Sub vocalised thoughts would be detected as sound and read by people not machines.
Direct control this way would not be possible.

[shodan]

Icke have predicted the human micro chipping for a long time, and we see it coming by the day. No doubt about that.

But claiming that the microchip will actually have the ability to remotely control us, via our emotions is kind of a sci-fi claim.
How will this work? Through bombing of radio waves? Will the chip work as a receiver to empower the radio frequencies?
Any sources? Studies? Animal tests?

We have long known that chemicals can alter ones mood and behavior.
But what do we know about the unseen forces?

Thanks for clearing things up for me!

By the way; I found this article on globalresearch.ca:
"On the Need for New Criteria of Diagnosis of Psychosis in the Light of Mind Invasive Technology"
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7123

Hi, check out the cat and the cow/bull in this clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKx1gLCQef8

[kanz]

I would say yes.

Found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKx1gLCQef8

[LasseMaja]

I'm sorry to be a critical bastard, but I believe this clip shows how conspiracy theorists link unconnected dots to each other with almost no solid reason what so ever. This clip discredits the credibility the whole "don't-get-chipped-movement" for these reasons:

There seems to be two major reasons why not to get chipped. The first one is the big brother nightmare, and that part of it I totally agree with. That is already a good reason why not to get chipped.

The second reason is far more sci-fi than the first one and it makes this clip non-credible for these reasons:

First of all, the first clip with the animals shows how animals react when an electrode is implanted to their brains, and that is not the same thing as a verichip. Not at all.
What it shows I guess is similar to the controversial "electroconvulsive therapy" (ECT).

Second, approximately 4 minutes in the clip we see two TV-hosts speaking about some professor who "have had an implant inserted to his nervous system... which discovers exactly how the brain sends out signals controlling movement, even sensations such as pleasure and pain."
Then, there is a clip of the professor controlling a robotics hand just by moving his own. As you will see, there is some kind of sensor connected to his arm.
The whole reportage from this media station is bias. Yes, you can brain scan people and measure activity in different parts of the brain telling how the person probably feel. (It can't read thoughts by the way.)
Anyway, it's bias, and we conspiracy theorists can't rely on biased media reportages. Period.
You know yourself how much media distorts information. Just because it fits our belief it's not necessarily truth.

I hope you all will understand what I mean, and I hope I help you to look at things critically, even David's work. This clip shows how easy it is for the media to distort the truth. I might be wrong, but I feel that I need solid evidence to be able to connect the dots.

Thanks for reading.

[shodan]

I'm sorry to be a critical bastard, but I believe this clip shows how conspiracy theorists link unconnected dots to each other with almost no solid reason what so ever. This clip discredits the credibility the whole "don't-get-chipped-movement" for these reasons:

There seems to be two major reasons why not to get chipped. The first one is the big brother nightmare, and that part of it I totally agree with. That is already a good reason why not to get chipped.

Hi please don't be sorry the forum is about debate and questioning other peoples beliefs/agenda's

I posted the clip as a reference to the cat and the cow/bull in answer to your original questions below, the bull was controlled remotely, this suggests its perfectly possible via wireless microchips inserted into the brain:

(http://pressesc.com/news/80530072007/pentagon-implant-microchips-soldiers-brains)

Icke have predicted the human micro chipping for a long time, and we see it coming by the day. No doubt about that.

But claiming that the microchip will actually have the ability to remotely control us, via our emotions is kind of a sci-fi claim.
How will this work? Through bombing of radio waves? Will the chip work as a receiver to empower the radio frequencies?
Any sources? Studies? Animal tests?

We have long known that chemicals can alter ones mood and behavior.
But what do we know about the unseen forces?

Thanks for clearing things up for me!

By the way; I found this article on globalresearch.ca:
"On the Need for New Criteria of Diagnosis of Psychosis in the Light of Mind Invasive Technology"
http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7123


The second reason is far more sci-fi than the first one and it makes this clip non-credible for these reasons:

First of all, the first clip with the animals shows how animals react when an electrode is implanted to their brains, and that is not the same thing as a verichip. Not at all.
What it shows I guess is similar to the controversial "electroconvulsive therapy" (ECT).

Second, approximately 4 minutes in the clip we see two TV-hosts speaking about some professor who "have had an implant inserted to his nervous system... which discovers exactly how the brain sends out signals controlling movement, even sensations such as pleasure and pain."
Then, there is a clip of the professor controlling a robotics hand just by moving his own. As you will see, there is some kind of sensor connected to his arm.
The whole reportage from this media station is bias. Yes, you can brain scan people and measure activity in different parts of the brain telling how the person probably feel. (It can't read thoughts by the way.)
Anyway, it's bias, and we conspiracy theorists can't rely on biased media reportages. Period.
You know yourself how much media distorts information. Just because it fits our belief it's not necessarily truth.

Us conspiracy theorists are the only ones questioning the media and sources posted on the forums. But I'm not endorsing anything, it was a reference point to the animals.

I hope you all will understand what I mean, and I hope I help you to look at things critically, even David's work. This clip shows how easy it is for the media to distort the truth. I might be wrong, but I feel that I need solid evidence to be able to connect the dots.

Thanks for reading.

Well I hope thats not as patronising as it sounds Lol! But I know how expressing yourself with text on a thread can be. :)
but thanks, I look at things critically - even Davids work - omg :eek:

There are many many dots to connect.....and you have a healthy attitude shared by all the genuine members on here - a search for the truth and a thirst for facts.

[kblood]

Hi, check out the cat and the cow/bull in this clip

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKx1gLCQef8

I noticed the Cyberkinetics was in this one. I have been trying to look into them a bit lately. One on this forum contacted them and was told quite a bit surprisingly enough, its in the mind control electronic harassment thread the reply and all that. I can try to dig it out.

http://www.cyberkineticsinc.com/content/aboutus/index.jsp

I had a friend who made me look for cyberkinetics. I was wondering what it really was. I am not sure yet, but they might somehow be connected to a succesfull AI able to have close to or above human intelligence. Either that, or its really cyborg level technology they have gotten to in the not public sections.

[kblood]

By the way, about the mind controlled bull. It seemed like the electric shock in the brain might have been the reason. Having your nervous system zapped directly like that isnt really that surprising to have an effect like that. Every muscle in that poor bull probably pulled together, and then leaving the bull in pain and confused. I wouldnt be surprised if that kind of treatment leaves permanent brain damage. That seems to have been one of the first experiments ever done though...

One of the news I noticed here in Denmark, was an article about how China I believe it was, had found a way to use pigeons as spies, by chipping them. Not only were they able to use the pigeon as a spy, but they could control them as well. Probably not like a remote controlled plane, but enough to make sure they went in the direction needed.

In my oppinion its not worth it being able to get artificial legs, arms or whatever if you get dependant on having electronics in your body. People with a pacemake die when striked with an EMP or are like to... right?

What about people who are chipped, and got robotic prostetics? This seems to be one of Cyberkinetics main goals.

[kblood]

http://www.cyberkineticsinc.com/content/researchproducts/dataacquisitionsystem.jsp

Here is how easy it is (yes it is high tech, but seems something you can get if you know who to ask), how easy it is to monitor yours or the brain of others. It might very well become the next kind of groundbreaking controller after the Wii controllers.

[LasseMaja]

[QUOTE=shodan;284422
Well I hope thats not as patronising as it sounds Lol! But I know how expressing yourself with text on a thread can be. :)
but thanks, I look at things critically - even Davids work - omg :eek:

There are many many dots to connect.....and you have a healthy attitude shared by all the genuine members on here - a search for the truth and a thirst for facts.[/QUOTE]

Sorry shodan, I did not intend to sound patronizing. I guess I do sometimes... \:o/


Anyway... The details is not of greatest importance. As long as we work together on the quest for truth, we will all be enjoying the ride. Thanks to David and many others for making this such a cool trip.


Just say no to the f*****g microchip!@# :D

[kblood]

Sorry shodan, I did not intend to sound patronizing. I guess I do sometimes... \:o/


Anyway... The details is not of greatest importance. As long as we work together on the quest for truth, we will all be enjoying the ride. Thanks to David and many others for making this such a cool trip.


Just say no to the f*****g microchip!@# :D

I agree, we cant expect to agree with everyone and do not have to either. Trying to get everyone researching this stuff to agree would both be a waste of time and impossible.

And I agree with saying no to it of course, the first verychip might not be a control one. The first many chips wont be control chips at all, its too likely that it will get noticed then. I think it much too probable that it will escelate though and become a mind control chip, because the governments would like to have able to control the billions of people as much as possible.

[chicken]

I still think that the chip is used to enforce some kind of control and to mimic the concept of mental illness, so that it looks natural in a persons demise...hidden....so that is not obvious...I use the word occult as it is negative and not really stepping into the spiritual yet, the links made with the Nazi concentration camps brings the debate into the area of poulation control, social engineering and eugenics. The chip is a silent killer and is and can be used as a assasination tool.

The chip will be the individuals worst nightmare. I am living it...bringing together the threads that relate requires taking society apart and lining it up with key developments and adding in the end result...the desired outcome..is this a on mass thing or is it related to bloodline?

My take on it is that the spirituality is the new science.....its a cover basically for the future of mankind....`alright possibly sounds a bit extreme, but is it?

So we are looking at neo nazi behaviour, concepts and ideas. I still think the message will be delivered through the new age, why? because the traditional religious ideas have somewhat had their day for the masses and things seemed to have stepped into fringe groups that relate and understand technology even if thousands of years old...they are using ambiguos terminlogy which when discussed amount to double think and double speak. The word energy, applies to both the spiritual and the technological....that is just for starters...

Very difficult to take apart and see it on just a conversation level. Trying to put it down on a thread can be difficult since it is such a big subject...Something has to happen that involves shock tatics that get you thinking that was not what it seemed, so you research it to pull apart you experiences and then you realise that actually you possibly have been living a lie...Not nice is it if that happens to you...All that people say is oh!! thats random that, No!! thats your imagination you see I have a years worth of harassment text messages, 15 years of car damage. I have to add it was parked for every one of them.....Not my imagination...family members have had the same harassent as me and they were left alone after, now why wasnt I? They were left messages like, dont interfere here you are not wanted and in something you do not know about and so on.....so this is a family hit.....by something....evil!

Previous history which predicted that the basis of human kind was going to be subjected to mental health screening, this was in 1940, by the Tavistock Institute. The USA, versions of our think tanks are connected to the psychiatric services as is ours. Chipping was an agenda vastly persued by the psychiatric services and the prison services, the agenda is back on as of 2008. I have an article which shows the govt is considering the use of chips in prisoners to replace tags...Bush had implemented that

Its use is infact a ethical nightmare, no redress at all from who is doing it to who implanted you....if it can be done remotely totally then that is a nightmare on top of trying to live with it....

Anyway I think I am chipped though cannot prove it....its impossible to. Only two people have had chips removed ever from my research. Of course their could be more?

yes, the other thing is that I believe from extensive research that the chip can mimic illnesses, like flu, fibromyalgia, ME, fatique, cancer, body vibration etc. Inclusive of learning disabilities like dyslexia

Conventional sites as well as conspiracy sites are saying pretty much the same thing about the concept of electromagnetics into the system, so with this great tool the internet I can see that something is adding up...

The brain has been and still is being tested for new developments and ideas. I think from what has been released via the press the scientist mags, publications etc that they are aware of a lot more that is published and it takes a lot of time to add up the dots. But the dot adding up exercise needs a rounded view and that includes all facts to show it is possible..

Whether we like it or not the notion of mind control can be done in several ways and is a social,political, economic exercise, religious as well inclusive of the rest..

The verichip has been written about a lot, who knows if that is what I have? Lab rats in the field is an extention of those in the hospitals as was done in America and other places to see how we react and behave socially and how we cope with the harassment and torture. I am also cause stalked and this has now become an understanding that the harassment has been linked to organised crime, which makes a lot of sense...random events have a pattern which some people never actually add up as linked....some people are tested and left alone, thus a bad period happened in your life and then you recover

Some do not recover and have periods of time in prison or mental hospitals where a lot of the shit is either a set up or fabricated. Some people die as a result..

Science fiction is and has caught up with speculation, yesterdays science fiction has turned into todays science fact. Mid term ideas proposed by the Huxleys Aldous and Julian gave us a picture that amounted to transhumanism, which is the continued technological impact which is controlled and then the impact is measured.

Moores Law has to be in there somewhere, the use of AI, where self improving computers will just leave man behind. We have hypothetical technology but the transference of the human mind to computer and back in is something BT is looking at....thats real and its on the agenda

the chip will do all at....maturing ideas used on unconsensual victims labelled as mentally ill

If your reality is altered, its a symbol of something deeper......

[deca]

Sub vocalised thoughts would be detected as sound and read by people not machines.
Direct control this way would not be possible.


http://www.nasa.gov/centers/ames/news/releases/2004/subvocal/subvocal.html
NASA scientists have begun to computerize human, silent reading using nerve signals in the throat that control speech. In preliminary experiments, NASA scientists found that small, button-sized sensors, stuck under the chin and on either side of the ‘Adam’s apple,’ could gather nerve signals, send them to a processor and then to a computer program that translates them into words.

"What is analyzed is silent, or sub-auditory, speech, such as when a person silently reads or talks to himself," said Chuck Jorgensen (pictured), a scientist whose team is developing silent, subvocal speech recognition at NASA Ames Research Center in California’s Silicon Valley.

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NASA scientists have begun to computerize human, silent reading using nerve signals in the throat that control speech. In preliminary experiments, NASA scientists found that small, button-sized sensors, stuck under the chin and on either side of the ‘Adam’s apple,’ could gather nerve signals, send them to a processor and then to a computer program that translates them into words.

"What is analyzed is silent, or sub-auditory, speech, such as when a person silently reads or talks to himself," said Chuck Jorgensen (pictured), a scientist whose team is developing silent, subvocal speech recognition at NASA Ames Research Center in California’s Silicon Valley.

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To learn more about what is in the patterns of the nerve signals that control vocal chords, muscles and tongue position, NASA Ames scientists are studying the complex nerve signal patterns. "We use an amplifier to strengthen the electrical nerve signals. These are processed to remove noise, and then we process them to see useful parts of the signals to show one word from another," Jorgensen said.

After the signals are amplified, computer software ‘reads’ the signals to recognize each word and sound. "We use neural network software to learn and classify the words," Jorgensen said. "It’s recognizing the pattern of a word in the signal."

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In their first experiment, scientists ‘trained’ special software to recognize six words and 10 digits that the researchers ‘repeated’ subvocally. Initial word recognition results were an average of 92 percent accurate. The first sub-vocal words the system ‘learned’ were ‘stop,’ ‘go,’ ‘left,’ ‘right,’ ‘alpha’ and ‘omega’ and the digits ‘zero’ through ‘nine.’ Silently speaking these words, scientists conducted simple searches on the Internet by using a number chart that represents the alphabet to control a Web browser program. Please credit photo to NASA Ames Research Center, Dominic Hart.

"We took the alphabet and put it into a matrix -- like a calendar. We numbered the columns and rows, and we could identify each letter with a pair of single-digit numbers," Jorgensen said. "So we silently spelled out ‘NASA’ and then submitted it to a well-known Web search engine. We electronically numbered the Web pages that came up as search results. We used the numbers again to choose Web pages to examine. This proves we could browse the Web without touching a keyboard," Jorgensen explained.

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A second demonstration will be to control a mechanical device using a simple set of commands, according to Jorgensen. His team is planning tests with a simulated Mars rover. "We can have the model rover go left or right using silently ‘spoken’ words," Jorgensen said.

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A second demonstration will be to control a mechanical device using a simple set of commands, according to Jorgensen. His team is planning tests with a simulated Mars rover. "We can have the model rover go left or right using silently ‘spoken’ words," Jorgensen said.

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People in noisy conditions could use the system when privacy is needed, such as during telephone conversations on buses or trains, according to scientists.




I wish people would stop trying tell what is and is not possible,I am experice this technology, its far more advanced that you would think or imagine.
the brain has been hacked, ok

[deca]

Yes, you can brain scan people and measure activity in different parts of the brain telling how the person probably feel. (It can't read thoughts by the way.)


'Thoughts read' via brain scans
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4715327.stm
Teams at University College London and University of California in LA could tell what images people were looking at or what sounds they were listening to.

The US team say their study proves brain scans do relate to brain cell electrical activity.

The UK team say such research might help paralysed people communicate, using a "thought-reading" computer.

We are still a long way off from developing a universal mind-reading machine

Dr John-Dylan Haynes, University College London

In their Current Biology study, funded by the Wellcome Trust, people were shown two different images at the same time - a red stripy pattern in front of the right eye and a blue stripy pattern in front of the left.

The volunteers wore special goggles which meant each eye saw only what was put in front of it.

In that situation, the brain then switches awareness between both images, sometimes seeing one image and sometimes the other.

While people's attention switched between the two images, the researchers used fMRI (functional Magnetic Resonance Imaging) brain scanning to monitor activity in the visual cortex.



The brain scan that can read people's intentions
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/feb/09/neuroscience.ethicsofscience
A team of world-leading neuroscientists has developed a powerful technique that allows them to look deep inside a person's brain and read their intentions before they act.

The research breaks controversial new ground in scientists' ability to probe people's minds and eavesdrop on their thoughts, and raises serious ethical issues over how brain-reading technology may be used in the future.

The team used high-resolution brain scans to identify patterns of activity before translating them into meaningful thoughts, revealing what a person planned to do in the near future. It is the first time scientists have succeeded in reading intentions in this way.

"Using the scanner, we could look around the brain for this information and read out something that from the outside there's no way you could possibly tell is in there. It's like shining a torch around, looking for writing on a wall," said John-Dylan Haynes at the Max Planck Institute for Human Cognitive and Brain Sciences in Germany, who led the study with colleagues at University College London and Oxford University.

The research builds on a series of recent studies in which brain imaging has been used to identify tell-tale activity linked to lying, violent behaviour and racial prejudice.

The latest work reveals the dramatic pace at which neuroscience is progressing, prompting the researchers to call for an urgent debate into the ethical issues surrounding future uses for the technology. If brain-reading can be refined, it could quickly be adopted to assist interrogations of criminals and terrorists, and even usher in a "Minority Report" era (as portrayed in the Steven Spielberg science fiction film of that name), where judgments are handed down before the law is broken on the strength of an incriminating brain scan.

"These techniques are emerging and we need an ethical debate about the implications, so that one day we're not surprised and overwhelmed and caught on the wrong foot by what they can do. These things are going to come to us in the next few years and we should really be prepared," Professor Haynes told the Guardian.

The use of brain scanners to judge whether people are likely to commit crimes is a contentious issue that society should tackle now, according to Prof Haynes. "We see the danger that this might become compulsory one day, but we have to be aware that if we prohibit it, we are also denying people who aren't going to commit any crime the possibility of proving their innocence."

During the study, the researchers asked volunteers to decide whether to add or subtract two numbers they were later shown on a screen.

Before the numbers flashed up, they were given a brain scan using a technique called functional magnetic imaging resonance. The researchers then used a software that had been designed to spot subtle differences in brain activity to predict the person's intentions with 70% accuracy.

The study revealed signatures of activity in a marble-sized part of the brain called the medial prefrontal cortex that changed when a person intended to add the numbers or subtract them.

Because brains differ so much, the scientists need a good idea of what a person's brain activity looks like when they are thinking something to be able to spot it in a scan, but researchers are already devising ways of deducing what patterns are associated with different thoughts.

Barbara Sahakian, a professor of neuro-psychology at Cambridge University, said the rapid advances in neuroscience had forced scientists in the field to set up their own neuroethics society late last year to consider the ramifications of their research.

"Do we want to become a 'Minority Report' society where we're preventing crimes that might not happen?," she asked. "For some of these techniques, it's just a matter of time. It is just another new technology that society has to come to terms with and use for the good, but we should discuss and debate it now because what we don't want is for it to leak into use in court willy nilly without people having thought about the consequences.

"A lot of neuroscientists in the field are very cautious and say we can't talk about reading individuals' minds, and right now that is very true, but we're moving ahead so rapidly, it's not going to be that long before we will be able to tell whether someone's making up a story, or whether someone intended to do a crime with a certain degree of certainty."

Professor Colin Blakemore, a neuroscientist and director of the Medical Research Council, said: "We shouldn't go overboard about the power of these techniques at the moment, but what you can be absolutely sure of is that these will continue to roll out and we will have more and more ability to probe people's intentions, minds, background thoughts, hopes and emotions.

"Some of that is extremely desirable, because it will help with diagnosis, education and so on, but we need to be thinking the ethical issues through. It adds a whole new gloss to personal medical data and how it might be used."

The technology could also drive advances in brain-controlled computers and machinery to boost the quality of life for disabled people. Being able to read thoughts as they arise in a person's mind could lead to computers that allow people to operate email and the internet using thought alone, and write with word processors that can predict which word or sentence you want to type . The technology is also expected to lead to improvements in thought-controlled wheelchairs and artificial limbs that respond when a person imagines moving.

"You can imagine how tedious it is if you want to write a letter by using a cursor to pick out letters on a screen," said Prof Haynes. "It would be much better if you thought, 'I want to reply to this email', or, 'I'm thinking this word', and the computer can read that and understand what you want to do."

· FAQ: Mind reading

What have the scientists developed?
They have devised a system that analyses brain activity to work out a person's intentions before they have acted on them. More advanced versions may be able to read complex thoughts and even pick them up before the person is conscious of them.

How does it work?
The computer learns unique patterns of brain activity or signatures that correspond to different thoughts. It then scans the brain to look for these signatures and predicts what the person is thinking.

How could it be used?
It is expected to drive advances in brain-controlled computers, leading to artificial limbs and machinery that respond to thoughts. More advanced versions could be used to help interrogate criminals and assess prisoners before they are released. Controversially, they may be able to spot people who plan to commit crimes before they break the law.

What is next?
The researchers are honing the technique to distinguish between passing thoughts and genuine intentions.

[shodan]

Anyway... The details is not of greatest importance. As long as we work together on the quest for truth, we will all be enjoying the ride. Thanks to David and many others for making this such a cool trip.


Just say no to the f*****g microchip!@#

awesome, i'll second that :)

[the_mole]

Icke have predicted the human micro chipping for a long time, and we see it coming by the day. No doubt about that.

But claiming that the microchip will actually have the ability to remotely control us, via our emotions is kind of a sci-fi claim.
How will this work? Through bombing of radio waves? Will the chip work as a receiver to empower the radio frequencies?

"The chip Ford had taken out (from Colin the security robot) was the one which contained all the instructions for all the conditions that had to be fulfilled in order for the robot to feel happy. The robot would be happy whenever a tiny electrical charge from a point just to the left of the chip reached another point just to the right of the chip. The chip determined whether the charge got there or not.

Ford pulled out a small length of wire that had been threaded into the towel. He dug one end of it into the top left hole of the chip socket and the other into the bottom right hole.

That was all it took. Now the robot would be happy whatever happened."
Douglas Adams, THHGTTG.

Robot = Human. Happy = Thoughts.

[deca]

Sub vocalised thoughts would be detected as sound and read by people not machines.
Direct control this way would not be possible.

hmmm here somebody making a mobile phone call using subvocals

Voiceless speaking Audeo Neckband Translates Your Thoughts into Speech
http://gizmodo.com/367341/audeo-neckband-translates-your-thoughts-into-speech-voicelessly
The science-fiction sounding Audeo can apparently detect nerve impulses your brain sends to your vocal cords, and then translate them into meaningful electronic speech without a sound escaping from your mouth. While secret agents everywhere are presumably rejoicing at the idea, it's actually intended to help people whose disabilities mean they can't speak. Don't believe it? The designers recently demonstrated it by making a cellphone call at a Texas Instruments conference, and recorded it on video.

For the brain to send the right nerve impulses, it apparently requires the user to think about speaking in a particular way—one designer calls it "a level above thinking." Despite the learning curve this causes, requiring users to go through lots of training, it brings another benefit: you can intersperse talking normally with voiceless speech.

The company has been working on the technology for a while, starting by using it to control an electric wheelchair. For the time being, though, the speech system is a technology in its infancy. The processing delay is evident from the video, and it has a limited vocabulary of only 150 words and phrases. By the end of 2008, the company is hoping to release a new version that recognizes the phonemes that comprise normal words, effectively giving it an unlimited vocabulary. [New Scientist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyN4ViZ21N0&eurl=http://gizmodo.com/367341/audeo-neckband-translates-your-thoughts-into-speech-voicelessly

[kblood]

Nice research there Deca :) A bit scary I guess, but since it seems to me these technologies have been used for experiements for decades, then its nice to see them applied to usefull stuff for a change.