Will You Take The Chip Or Die?

[piskavac]

Look at it possitively, they might even give you a cellphone if you buy a chip....:D
Seriously, I don't see how it can
be stopped. Wish there was a way.

For Christians that can not be vieved positively. They think, that is Satan work. And those who accept to be chipped, will go into eternal heaven. No matter of did they want chip in their bodies, or not.

[themime]

Just as a side thought what's to stop someone removing these chips and swapping them for someone else's?

I mean if someone is willing to commit suicide for a cause would a minor surgery really worry them?

[hashmcgandy]

Dear Mr Gordon Brown. It is said that a leader should lead by example...so, will YOU take the chip? I think we all know the answer to that!

[osiris111]

the only chip going in my body will be covered in grease from the local chip shop id rather have my arms and legs removed than take one of those things in me. i am an ex soldier and im really surprised its not been done to the military already or maybe it has i dunno. one things for sure im not having any needles put in me that i have not put under a microscope myself lol. whats next on off switches lol

[branjo]

I think personally the soldiers and or police have already been chipped, they test out everything on soldiers first including all those useless anti chemical warfare pills. I would also say that there is some sort of mind control tests being done on soldiers too, how else would they expect a soldier to fight on his or her own soil against their own people. Thing is we have to get it through to the soldiers that they are OUR troops not the sons of bitches in government buildings, OURS the PEOPLE. They took an oath to protect us not the politicians. They are the only ones who can stop a tyrant, without a brainwashed army a tyrant is powerless.

Support our troops by educating them on how they are being used. I love to see the Veterans Against the War movement, you can't tell them they don't know what they are talking about, they have been there and seen the uselessness of their presence in a third world country fighting farmers and children that only fight to stay alive.

Good for you osiris111 we need about a million more of you, ex soldiers hold a lot of sway over current soldiers opinions.

[cyberdaemon]

But then again , do you really thing it will be this obvious that someone puts a gun in your head and says chip or not ? I think *they* (if there is a conspiracy at all) will start with big idols and beloved leaders because most people listen to them and often live theyr life after the ideas these idols present.

I think one day there will be moment when there is hard to find a person who only dont have micro chip , but a shitload of computers and systems inside them , ranging from brain implants to the possibly being half-robots half-humans.

And if there is that reptile lead conspiracy , why to bother at all about all these chips and stuff ? Dont they have like super-technology way ahead of "our" world ? So if we can track people with satelites , they could do same with some global super-sonars , microscopic flying cameras and so on , dont they ?

[johno]

The thought of just an information database chipped inside me does not bother me so much but the thought that the evil shits can lace the chip with say mercury or can use it to manipulate the body's energy's and frequency... Now thats bloody scary.....

[johno]

the only chip going in my body will be covered in grease from the local chip shop id rather have my arms and legs removed than take one of those things in me. i am an ex soldier and im really surprised its not been done to the military already or maybe it has i dunno. one things for sure im not having any needles put in me that i have not put under a microscope myself lol. whats next on off switches lol
Apparently the boys at Hereford have started the chipping process... And the USMC have started already with the troops in Iraq.
p.s Where you a kingo by any chance?

[awakensong]

I've also just read where they might be able to use the chip to "beam" people up, as in Star Wars. Makes abductions much easier.

[nirvana]

Im just curious ...one day the micro-chip will be compulsory, will you and your family take the chip and live happily ever after, or will you refuse the chip and face being taken off to concentration camps to be slaughtered ...along with your family?

This will be extra harder on those of you that have wives/ husbands/ kids!!!

The chip will be that small you will not know you have one in.

[cyberdaemon]

The chip will be that small you will not know you have one in.

Then why to chip people and tell them ? Why not secretly to do it ? Lets say a new vactination or something would be great excuse , woulnt it ? But you really just dont tell them the true purpose of the vactination.

[awakensong]

Then why to chip people and tell them ? Why not secretly to do it ? Lets say a new vactination or something would be great excuse , woulnt it ? But you really just dont tell them the true purpose of the vactination.
Might that be linked to what is in the post in this thread?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33417 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33417)

A mandatory vaccine that might contain a chip so miniscule, no one would know?

[branjo]

When you think of all the sinister ways they could get this in you you probably wouldn't leave the house.

What we want is a way to render it useless, its an electronic device it has to have a weakness. Maybe an intense magnetic field or stick a piece of metal in your plug socket lol. There are ways around everything electrical, just like a crack or cheat code for a game.

[daytimetwilight]

Anyone know why the starter of this thread is banned?

[cyberdaemon]

Might that be linked to what is in the post in this thread?
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33417 (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=33417)

A mandatory vaccine that might contain a chip so miniscule, no one would know?

There is also idea , that "alien implants" are actually microchips put there by humans to track others down , the whole "alien abduction" is just for a show to fuxx things up.All you need to do , to get them believe they were kidnapped by "aliens" is to toy with theyr mids , drug them or something and they happily wear that "alien implant".

http://www.fractalfreak.com/wx/satfucked/index.html

Also there is a nice quote from landrew at Sceptics.com forums

http://www.skepticforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=10044


Wildlife researchers have been using implants to track bird migrations by satellite for years. The US military has using RFID implants for longer. Chances are that if you have one, whoever put it there would not want you to know about it, or talk about it. No surprise if no one steps up to explain it.

[analog]

It would be hard to say, if they ever manage to force people to implant these chips which i dought they will at the extent people are waking up from the Matrix.

If they did manage to then we probebly would already be dead becuese they would control us through these chips.

So death is probebly not such a bad thing, you will only move on to the next realm of existence anyway.

[tootrue]

'Every petrol pump will be prepay by 2011 because of the rise in fuel theft, say industry bosses.'
- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1047495/Every-petrol-pump-prepay-2011.html

[cyberdaemon]

It would be hard to say, if they ever manage to force people to implant these chips which i dought they will at the extent people are waking up from the Matrix.

If they did manage to then we probebly would already be dead becuese they would control us through these chips.

So death is probebly not such a bad thing, you will only move on to the next realm of existence anyway.

And in that reality you are someone with million chips on you :D

[entheogen]

Just wondering - not religeous or anything but I do recall a quote in the bible about the mark of the beast being on the hand !!!

Is this the chip - without it we cant do anything - buy sell etc !

Bring on the electrical storms - that should bring an end to all this technology - chips / mobile phones / tv and my favourite of all ...cash machines

[cyberdaemon]

Just wondering - not religeous or anything but I do recall a quote in the bible about the mark of the beast being on the hand !!!

Is this the chip - without it we cant do anything - buy sell etc !

Bring on the electrical storms - that should bring an end to all this technology - chips / mobile phones / tv and my favourite of all ...cash machines

Then dont forget when bible was written.If there was chisp 2 000 years ago we would all be chipped for last 100 generations , woulnt we ? Besides , if you think about the future , do you really think humans will be simply humans in next 50 or 100 years ? No , they wont be! This chipping is small part in whats about to come if you consider that in future people will be something cyborg-like , with high-tech extra hands , a monitor in eye lens , a system that makes your memory like thousand times better etc... We WILL turn into half-robots , half-humans , like it or not.

But then again i remember that i dont know any chase where someone has grown itself an extra hand or improved its memory to be thousand times more effective so it can store millions of number combinations without forgetting even one number in the sequence for example.Yes , there are the stories of "magic powers" , but these are just child stories and nothing more.

Only strange thing about computer-human connection i heard was when Michio Kaku talked about putting micro chip into human mind that will make them able to move things with theyr mind.I cant find any information on this , but if your interested , please help me out.

[bendoon]

Then dont forget when bible was written.

The relevant part is a prophecy about the future, obviously there were no chips then, it wasn't talking about then.

Will You Take The Chip Or Die?

Yes, thats my lane in the sand, so to speak. (I might chicken out though)

[smurf]

Die.

...or at least go down fighting.

[jos08]

I wouldn't take it, if I was forced then I would probably immigrate to another country.

[branjo]

The US will be the testing ground for many sinister things to come, how the people here deal with these things will very much affect the rest of the world.

If the ruling class have an easy time of it here in the US then Europe will be attacked in the same way. America has been one huge experiment from day 1 to see how far you can push people and have them believe, fight and die for the illusion of democracy, which this country has never experienced by the way.

I was really thinking about leaving the US and returning to Ireland if they start this chip shit or try and send me off to the camps, then I thought Hell No, it doesn't matter where I am, if they push me around then I will push back.

[cyberdaemon]

Let me repeat my idea : i think chip is nothing compared to what humans will be in next 50 years , because by then many people are like cyborgs or something.One chip here is like drop of water next to the cyborgs sea or something.

[haman]

Die.

...or at least go down fighting.

Ditto :)...

[lakkimakki]

i think ill take chip , but fake one , you know the one that gives fake location and stuff :)

[jojo]

I wouldnt take it, i would go on the run with my parter and child.... hence me culitvating my bush craft skills at the moment.

[jesta_g]

I wouldnt take it, i would go on the run with my parter and child.... hence me culitvating my bush craft skills at the moment.

i agree. my girlfriend and I have recently had a baby.
No time for heroes now, this is for the safety of our loved ones and the future generations.
I am ging to have to read up on my survival skils th indeed.
do you suggest any books or info for a beginner in bush craft skills. i already have the SAS survival book which in amazingly informative.

i suggested on another thread posting up a new thread on what to have in a survival kit etc for those that do not know or would like to share.

[jesta_g]

The US will be the testing ground for many sinister things to come, how the people here deal with these things will very much affect the rest of the world.

If the ruling class have an easy time of it here in the US then Europe will be attacked in the same way. America has been one huge experiment from day 1 to see how far you can push people and have them believe, fight and die for the illusion of democracy, which this country has never experienced by the way.

I was really thinking about leaving the US and returning to Ireland if they start this chip shit or try and send me off to the camps, then I thought Hell No, it doesn't matter where I am, if they push me around then I will push back.



very very good point. please be brave america and above all strong minded.

by the time of the chips hitting the mainstream and becoming mandatory there will be no money and no flights to anywhere. think smart and an assist nly those you can. these chips are not going t be a choice, they will be forcefully implanted............

however i have read and see information (sorry ill find a link/quote if i can) that there is not enough chips and there will only be used for the smart minded thinkers who have been taken in the camps and the military.can anyone else add to this?

[lakkimakki]

i agree. my girlfriend and I have recently had a baby.
No time for heroes now, this is for the safety of our loved ones and the future generations.
I am ging to have to read up on my survival skils th indeed.
do you suggest any books or info for a beginner in bush craft skills. i already have the SAS survival book which in amazingly informative.

i suggested on another thread posting up a new thread on what to have in a survival kit etc for those that do not know or would like to share.

lol the way you people talk , like therez gonna be a war....:)

[jesta_g]

lol the way you people talk , like therez gonna be a war....:)

LOL or a very big camping trip :p

[jojo]

lol the way you people talk , like therez gonna be a war....:)

the government are already at war with the masses. libertys and rights are being removed daily. we are being watched, monitored and our DNA stored. When they try and bring out the chip, then I feel there will be a "war" as you put it. A war of resistance.

[lakkimakki]

the government are already at war with the masses. libertys and rights are being removed daily. we are being watched, monitored and our DNA stored. When they try and bring out the chip, then I feel there will be a "war" as you put it. A war of resistance.

cool:)

[challand]

Anyone who tries to force drugs or chips on me is going to be resisted with every drop of free blood in my veins. 'nuff said. ;)

[rhydra]

I am of two minds. Either die and come back again but stronger. Or accept the chip then lead them on the proverbial wild goose chase. I am certain that there are many different ways that someone can make the government chase their tails, waste their resources if as many people as possible acted as suspiciously as possible.

[awakensong]

I haven't posted on this thread for a few weeks, but have been watching the responses come through. It seems some people are either being humorous or they actually think there is a multiple choice of what 'type' of chip we take?

Also, I think the chip will determine 'for' us where we are allowed to go, not the other way around. Like I said before, it sounds to me like it will make us into a sort of ipod or roboticized human.

[oiram]

Another thing!
I feel the chip technology is great and the entire world needs to get chipped. I believe this is the next logical step in technological evolution.
Advantages:

Illness, accidents etc can be diagnosed faster by just having a scanner to scan the persons chip
Wouldn't need ID, passports, money... anything
Crimes would lessen, the only crimes would be hacking since robbery etc would be useless

But of course the people behind the agenda of the chipping are not the best candidates, if there was a good intention drive then this would be a great thing.Yes if??
There would be a good intention!
This is my logic speaking: if anything gets enforced against your will or by intimidation, luaring, Brainwashing of any type and form!
Then the intention is already criminal in my view; because it takes your God given individuality away from you; to say NO!
In my case I don't even have one Tattoo on my body so why should I have a chip being put under my skin???
You can have your chip in a Master or Visa card and make it compulsory to carry it with you that's enough; if you would have a good intent in mind! "Right?" Like in your visa and master card!

Hundreds of other ways to carry a small device like this on your body! Earrings, Finger Ring, Chain, Glasses ...... etc
Should you forgot your item which carries the chip and you go past a control area the beeper goes of and you get pulled of! Also you can check where the control points are! :D:cool:
Or you can Chip your Dog and make it compulsory to take him around all the time your Dog will Love it!:D:D

Sorry the intend from the start is NOT Good! If they change there arguments later it's not necessary because they stated & proofed there intend already!

Like Bush said in his speech and it was the only thing he ever said in 7 Years which made sense Quote: if you got fooled ones you cant get fooled again!

What is this world anyway a freaking cattle Prison farm or what???!

Also my DNA has a value and can be miss-used the same applies its my body's personal property no one else's!

And by the way the only place I ever was described to be Animal like is this Fucking Jewish Book called Talmud!

1 + 1 = 2

Full stop end of argument no matter what shit they try to indoctrinate me with!!!

[oiram]

Just wondering - not religious or anything but I do recall a quote in the bible about the mark of the beast being on the hand !!!
Is this the chip - without it we cant do anything - buy sell etc !
To understand this abstract post you got to use you logic; then everything makes sense!

Yes! There is something like this in the Book!

So my questions are:
1) Who wrote the Book or added to it? Especially the New Testament!
A bit like before WWII they called it "WO" then after WWII they changed it to "NWO" .... you see everything is New and modified to fit the situation!

2) Could it be that the Old Testament has the real truth written? (I personally like the part "eye for eye tooth for tooth" because it's absolute logical to keep order in Rome and Satan don't gets his free ticket to do what he wants!

3) Could it be that some evil doers did think ahead of time and knowing there evil plans & dream then added this mark of the Beast part to the Book; to later get people prepared and used to the idea by indoctrination ahead of time?
A bit like the TV that's exactly what they are doing 7/24 hours! Did you realise that TV is mainly about War blood and guts?

Don't forget Statan is a bit of a mental case and has a funny way; because he is so dubious; he actually sticks everything right into your Face before he does it but in hidden form "Satan speciality" he lies, loves liars, loves fiscal & sociological torcher before he finishes of this victim! Maybe he gets a satisfaction from it!
A bit like Bush he also does it when he gives speeches but you have to listen very careful and analyze every word he says!

There are many options for the mark of the Beast! My theory is that it is "money" because you usually handle it with your right hand and never get it out of your forehead thinking about it all the time! Even dreaming about it!

Also remember the very important note in the Book! Saying what ever you take out of the Book should never ever contradicts it's self with Gods original basic moral principles & goodness! So why would he try to get as a mark of the Beast! God would not do this "Right"

One more good quote I like saying "God gave you all the power over Satan"

Now you will ask how could I have all the Power over Satan "right!"

So here is the secret how to do it; and on top you will be God like!
Very, very easy; all you need to do ones Satan approaches you ask you to take something from him or ask you to do something is to just say ...........NO I don't like it! You see the word NO is the most important word to have the power over Satan! I tell you I seen Satan many times and does he get pissed when I tell him simply ,,,, NO just screw your self!

You see this is easy "right" and Gods message was spot on I use it all the time!

So when Satan ask you to take his Chip; all you need to say "NO" thank you I already got a better Chip then you ever will be able to offer to me & came from God; free of conditions, no tax and is version Pentium model = "GD v1000 typ. Love Truth special with build in logic module!"http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/icons/icon14.gif
Let me tell you ones you worked out Satan's tactics he will never ever rule over you because you will always be two steps ahead of his thinking patten! Usually Satan gets out of your way and looks for a new sheep which he can fool!

I Love my original build in Chip; irreplaceable & talking about powerful Wooow.....ow!!! :eek:

By the way you got the exact same Chip build in; you only just need to switch the baby ON! But be aware on first start up it's a bit of a kick; feels like ending up in a different dimension but that feeling settles down after a short time!:D

[branjo]

All this talk about the bible and how we are lied to on a daily basis yet everyone still believes Satan is evil, God is the one that punishes and burns you forever, I can't remember a story were satan kills millions of people for not doing what he says, the only thing I remember satan doing is disobeying god, ie the power of the time. (Government)

Even from a child I was less afraid of satan then I was god, thats how I knew I was being lied to at the age of 6 years old. People still saying they are free minded and awoken yet you still spout out this complete bullshit like you can make sense of it.

Its not Satan you should be saying no too, its your complete fabrication of a false God.
The fact that morons worship Satan like its also a god is just as dumb, God or Satan you are just worshiping a story with words in it. Might as well be a war between Jack and Jill.

All history is soiled with lies, we don't know which to believe because we can't be sure of any of it, faith in anything but yourself is wasted faith. Through the faith of your "self" you immediately connect with everyone and everything, its all you need.

The idea of this chip will not be forced just like the world order, it will be wanted by the people in some pathetic attempt for security. If they tell you you can't buy food without one then I guarantee sooner or later we will all want one.

But like i said before its an electronic device, it can be tricked, activated and deactivated by using another electronic device. No matter what security technology gets released on Monday there is always a crack for it on Tuesday.

Bush is not evil I don't think he has the smarts to be called evil, he is just greedy and he writes blank checks for his controllers, and he gets a certain amount of gratuity for it. Don't think of it being a war between good and evil, its a war between greed and necessity, or rich and poor. Our enemy is money itself, that alone is what separates man, its a true mark of slavery.

PS you better re read RULE 1 again dude, looks like you forgot it...lol :P

[jesta_g]

All this talk about the bible and how we are lied to on a daily basis yet everyone still believes Satan is evil, God is the one that punishes and burns you forever, I can't remember a story were satan kills millions of people for not doing what he says, the only thing I remember satan doing is disobeying god, ie the power of the time. (Government)

Even from a child I was less afraid of satan then I was god, thats how I knew I was being lied to at the age of 6 years old. People still saying they are free minded and awoken yet you still spout out this complete bullshit like you can make sense of it.

Its not Satan you should be saying no too, its your complete fabrication of a false God.
The fact that morons worship Satan like its also a god is just as dumb, God or Satan you are just worshiping a story with words in it. Might as well be a war between Jack and Jill.

All history is soiled with lies, we don't know which to believe because we can't be sure of any of it, faith in anything but yourself is wasted faith. Through the faith of your "self" you immediately connect with everyone and everything, its all you need.

The idea of this chip will not be forced just like the world order, it will be wanted by the people in some pathetic attempt for security. If they tell you you can't buy food without one then I guarantee sooner or later we will all want one.

But like i said before its an electronic device, it can be tricked, activated and deactivated by using another electronic device. No matter what security technology gets released on Monday there is always a crack for it on Tuesday.

Bush is not evil I don't think he has the smarts to be called evil, he is just greedy and he writes blank checks for his controllers, and he gets a certain amount of gratuity for it. Don't think of it being a war between good and evil, its a war between greed and necessity, or rich and poor. Our enemy is money itself, that alone is what separates man, its a true mark of slavery.

PS you better re read RULE 1 again dude, looks like you forgot it...lol :P



great post. very well said.

I enjoy you mentioning the innocence in satan in the whole situation. its quite uncomfortable to realise that people accept this "god" who quite obviously has issues and smites the shit out of everyone and everything and favours his one special group , while in comparison satan all he did was show "adam and eve" knowledge. AND too right its all esoteric hidden messages with the intension of informing those that are knowleged in occult astro-theology(to put it simply). jack and jill indeed.

I particular enjoy this point you make - "Through the faith of your "self" you immediately connect with everyone and everything, its all you need." cant improve on that :)

and yes the most likely way this chip will be introduced is by the masses pleading for it as it suggests in "revelations". especially if a majority of the population of the planet has been wiped out or in the case of attaining items for living.

and your point on Bush is quite right, tho i have a hunch he is under mind control and their is a darker side to him we do not see in the full. he seems like the best candidate also to have just before the rise of the"anti-christ"/big cheese, people will want a "hero" someone that will pose himself as a saviour and after Bush it seems like even a monkey do this. its as if he was purposefully selected , being a "dumb-ass" to further dumb down the vulnerable american population with his antics.

good post and thread none the less. enjoyed everyones views so far :)

[allp0wertoslaves]

I'm sorry, but I can't answer either way. Both answers are defeatist no matter the level of personal martyrdom one may feel, or whether or not that martyrdom be considered patriotic or commendable.

What we are taking for granted is our ability to harness technology as well. Always, with new technology emerges new crime, whether those crimes be justified or not.

I believe that our only ability in the future to defend ourselves is not necessarily through physical strength or martyrdom, but through hacking. There are multitudes of people throughout the world right now that have the sleeping ability to take down nearly any satellite, governmental database, even the Federal Reserve itself. They don't get paid for it and they only would do such a thing would tyranny arise indefinitely.

Quite honestly, I do not think that even the wisest wise crackers in the IT sections of the biggest governmental organizations have the ability to counter the citizen hacker.

I believe that, along with understanding how to improvise in a mode of natural survival, we need to learn technology.

Do a little research on it.

We don't need to die -- we can trick it. We can dupe it.

Fuck, when an 11-year-old can knock a satellite on an alternate orbit as little as three years ago and confuse the FBI and CIA all to hell, then I'm not that worried.



-William
www.William-Mac.com
www.ThisWeekinTime.com

Yes!

[bendoon]

Originally Posted by entheogen
Just wondering - not religious or anything but I do recall a quote in the bible about the mark of the beast being on the hand !!!
Is this the chip - without it we cant do anything - buy sell etc !


Yes, the Bible is warning you about the mark, and not to accept it. Its no good for you, its a mark of allegiance to Satans NWO. Take it and they own you, although I do not necessarily think that it is the chip per se. But I'm pretty sure that at some time they intend a cashless society and you being chipped and when you go to the supermarket you will be scanned to pay for your food, no chip no food, you are an outlaw.

On a brighter note though it does tell you that the NWO will be destoyed a few years after it is finally revealed to the masses.

[energi]

What if some of us awakened ones take the chip and know that magnetism is BS/can be controlled if we refuse to identify with it? That would help the NWO to be defeated FROM THE INSIDE, and we already have Iris scanning, hand scanning, government-DNA-labs and credit cards already, so you could say that the chip is already here...

[lakkimakki]

I wouldnt take it, i would go on the run with my parter and child.... hence me culitvating my bush craft skills at the moment.

you think ? we also all took cell phones , and now we are frying our brain cells...

[silver_eyes]

id rather paint the walls with my blood than take the chip

[ichi wa zen]

I will take the chip but not up the batty.

[antinwo]

Ok how will all of us guys cope when we have no other means of purchase driving licence passport ect. The question is will we still say no to the chip:confused:

[branjo]

Ok how will all of us guys cope when we have no other means of purchase driving licence passport ect. The question is will we still say no to the chip:confused:

Crime? ....:D

[largejack]

Crime? ....:D

So you would rather commit crime than take the chip:confused:

[branjo]

So you would rather commit crime than take the chip:confused:

Absofuckinglutely. Im Irish, its in my nature....lol.

[awakensong]

All this talk about the bible and how we are lied to on a daily basis yet everyone still believes Satan is evil, God is the one that punishes and burns you forever, I can't remember a story were satan kills millions of people for not doing what he says, the only thing I remember satan doing is disobeying god, ie the power of the time. (Government)

Even from a child I was less afraid of satan then I was god, thats how I knew I was being lied to at the age of 6 years old. People still saying they are free minded and awoken yet you still spout out this complete bullshit like you can make sense of it.

Its not Satan you should be saying no too, its your complete fabrication of a false God.
The fact that morons worship Satan like its also a god is just as dumb, God or Satan you are just worshiping a story with words in it. Might as well be a war between Jack and Jill.

All history is soiled with lies, we don't know which to believe because we can't be sure of any of it, faith in anything but yourself is wasted faith. Through the faith of your "self" you immediately connect with everyone and everything, its all you need.

The idea of this chip will not be forced just like the world order, it will be wanted by the people in some pathetic attempt for security. If they tell you you can't buy food without one then I guarantee sooner or later we will all want one.

But like i said before its an electronic device, it can be tricked, activated and deactivated by using another electronic device. No matter what security technology gets released on Monday there is always a crack for it on Tuesday.

Bush is not evil I don't think he has the smarts to be called evil, he is just greedy and he writes blank checks for his controllers, and he gets a certain amount of gratuity for it. Don't think of it being a war between good and evil, its a war between greed and necessity, or rich and poor. Our enemy is money itself, that alone is what separates man, its a true mark of slavery.

PS you better re read RULE 1 again dude, looks like you forgot it...lol :P
There are sites that give the bible statistics of how many times God smote/ killed/ massacred, et al, and how many things Satan was up to. The score always comes out with God way on top for the wrongdoings.

Interestingly, I was recently reading that in ancient times when people believed in a pantheon of gods, there were no separate devils to go with this belief. They thought of each of their gods as individually having an extremely good side and an extremely bad side, rewarding or punishing the people according to whatever scale those people went by in their superstitions. It is only in recent times that we have separated this superstition into two separate deities. One night when I was talking to a friend and we kept getting cut off, I jokingly said "the cell phone gods don't like us tonight". But on other calls where we never get cut off, it could just as easily be said that the same "gods" were accommodating us.

Makes sense to me in many ways, because that is just like humans are, too. We have good sides and bad sides. No one is all loving or all hateful. A friend of mine said years ago that she thought God and Satan were one entity at war with itself, and in this way, she would be correct, according to the info I read.

[branjo]

Absolutely I can relate to that, the ancient versions where there are many gods and one main (in control) god ie Zeus seems to me like it could also fit the alien hierarchy too, like a group of beings who are in control of this and probably many more planets. The whole problem stems from dumb old humans making them into these magical beings that can be described by one word, God. We even do it with famous people, there are people who would lay down their lives for Oprah or Madonna lol

What you say about it being at war with itself is another great point, My slant on things lately is (Now open your mind real wide..lol) the universe is conscious of itself through us, on our particular planet we are just the eyes and the ears of the universe that we are part of, and the "Gods" are just beings sent to cultivate us into doing a better job for the whole, they understand the point of their existence, yet we do not. EDIT: I have to add that they could also be angry as well as peaceful beings we really can't assume either?

We are besotted with the idea that someone will either look out for us or save us without us having to lift a finger. Neither Higher beings or humans for that matter are going to lift a finger to save something that is not willing to stand up for itself. The collective weak may be a strong force but a collective strong will, is a driving force.

Point im trying to make is we can't depend on there being a god or gods or higher beings or other humans that are secretly watching over us. We have to act like there is nothing out there, only blackness and no one is coming or ever will come to our aid. I have heard people describe such a theory as being "lost" without purpose or afraid that the road in front of them hasn't been laid out yet, they don't want the pressure of being responsible for themselves and how they are treated.

If you willingly take this chip then you willingly agree to everything that comes with it.
You can't give up because you are being blackmailed by food or imprisonment.

You break no law by saying no to anything you don't want to do. By your own personal views of what is right or wrong is how you have lived your life, not by what the law says, you never did.

Its just a coincidence that the written law overlaps the personal laws of most of us, namely, don't kill or hurt people or animals, and that basic rule filters into every part of life.

But when I hear that over here its illegal to collect rainwater then I feel a big "F**k You" welling in my throat because I know for a fact if my water gets shut off and its raining, Im collecting rainwater, only a fool wouldn't.

They can make all the absurd laws they want to blackmail me into doing what the minority of the establishment want, but I don't care I will just rely on my own sense of right and wrong and through the attitude of those around me and towards me, I can judge myself accordingly, my conscience will dictate my innocence or guilt.

Im just past caring what the penalties are for disobeying and I have come to terms that something very bad is on our "potential" horizon. If we don't learn to grow a backbone now then we are letting down our whole species by accepting slavery even before it has been implemented.

Sun Tzu's art of war says to convince your enemy that they have lost even before the first arrow is shot.
I think the literal title of this thread is the deciding factor on the vote cause i am surprised by the many yes votes.

Maybe the title should read "Will you fight to refuse the chip or passively accept it"

Having a gun to your head pretty much guarantees one answer. So under duress you will say anything that keeps you living. But if this is done in the public's eye then people are far more braver when their peers are watching than in a dark corner. In a crowd bravery spreads exactly like fear.

[tracker]

take the chip or die ?
isnt that cutting down chioces ?

NO I WILL NOT TAKE THE CHIP !

AND I CERTAINLY DONT PLAN ON DIEING EITHER !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

HAVE TO FIND ME 1ST !

AND I AM NOT AFRAID TO DEFEND MY SELF EITHER , IF THEY FIND ME THATS IS !


AMAZON ?

Oh I'd put up a good fight and go down against my will but I refuse to take the chip. If it was inserted against my will I'd have no problem going in to retrieve it. In fact I was thinking about this last night....would a person be prepared to sever their hand if there was no easy way of extracting the implant?

SMART THINKING .

IF YOUR HAND OFFENDS YOU , THEN CUT IT OFF .

FROM THE BIBLE TOO .:D



GET SMART AND KNOW WHAT TO DO BEFORE THE CHIPPING TAKES HOLD !

[deckard]

I guess I will be hunted down as a criminal, meaning I wont be able to buy food or gas without this chip in me, so Ill have to steal to survive, which I guess will only be short term.
If they capture me, what then?
Jail, a chip will be necessary for their security measures, which means they will have to put it in by force, as I will not give my consent.
Does it count then? If you believe in the bible, it says in Revelation those who are chipped are basically dammed from eternal life, but what if your chipped against your will, that wouldnt be very fair.
I guess I'll have to go out shooting, Im sure God will forgive me for any lives I might take in such a scenario, as I dont want to be taken alive in case Im chipped, and anyone who I kill that goes to hell, was probably going there anyway.

[jesta_g]

[QUOTE=deckard;510265]
Does it count then? If you believe in the bible, it says in Revelation those who are chipped are basically dammed from eternal life, but what if your chipped against your will, that wouldnt be very fair.
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LOL none of the bible is bloodyfair.;):p
"god " says thou shalt not kill but he in the bible jealously slaughters and mutilates whole nations. pppffftt moody cunt :p
no matter how or what happens when you die we all go to the same plane of "existance", no one is as good or high as the next.

we are one :)

[kblood]

On the chipping issue. I have been playing a classic game lately, called Syndicate Wars. In the Syndicate games there is so much that relates to the conspiracy research on forums like this.

Here is a few videos from the Syndicate games, showing some of what I am writing about:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NBiHuAwyHR8&feature=related

Intro to the first Syndicate game. Graphics in this game was so amazingly ahead of other games at the time in my oppinion and I like the concept. It shows an agent getting captured and chipped + implanted.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGvIrf86g4Y&feature=related

This video is the PC intro to Syndicate Wars. Shows what happens to a chipped person that wakes up due to a virus released into the AI network that controls the city he is walking around in. Most cities have a big AI controlling the city and its citizens through UTOPIA chips. These chips makes them see the world very differently than it really is as this intro shows.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwGsUeRq5n4&feature=related

This one is just cool :)

The Eurocorp which is the main Syndicate that was controlling the world after making the NWO happen during the original Syndicate game. It was possible mainly due to a device called a persuadotron, which can take over the mind of anyone. Then they chipped the whole world, and in Syndicate Wars the war is about the chipped population.

The similarities to the conspiracy research should be obvious to most. Making a one world government, chipping, making illusions to control the population of the world and the Eurocorp's centre of controls comes from the London AI.

The first mission in the game:

Message Type: DIRECT

Priority: 3

Message begins:

Orders

London: Quell disorder.

Extraordinary malfunctions of UTOPIA chips are being reported. The malfunctions are all total dropouts, complete CHIP failures. Subsequent category of citizens is U-Unguided. U category civilians reported in violation of behaviour codes within one square kilometre of this substation.

EuroCorp Core 0-1-0/171261/26D: London Artificial Intelligence, UTOPIA

Universal Transferred Organic Processing Interface Architecture

The virus outbreak caused by this Church of the New Epoch seems similar to this awakening that is going on these days after the Internet have become global. Before that it couldnt happen the same way or as fast as it is today. There is so much information though that its easy for anyone to plant disinformation making it very difficult to know what is true and what isnt.

[mplsrain]

I don't think we'll be forced at gunpoint to be chipped. After cash is removed from society and crime and terrorist attacks increase the chip will seem to be a great idea and people will gladly embrace it. People will take the chip willingly, and it will seem like a great idea all around. It's only after the system is in place for some time that the powers that be will turn on us and use it to control us, deny our faith, etc.

[branjo]

Im going to start printing T shirts with, "Would you like Salt, Vinegar or Mind Control with your chips" on them, probably get the message out better than trying to convince people of the fact. When you talk about things like this all people see in their mind science fiction movies and their brain places no importance to it. In fact images from TV pretty much make up our visual memories. Glad I got rid of the Cable, I just watch things on DVD I choose to watch now, no news no gossip channels, no shit in other words.

[serenevasaline]

Does it count then? If you believe in the bible, it says in Revelation those who are chipped are basically dammed from eternal life, but what if your chipped against your will, that wouldnt be very fair.



LOL none of the bible is bloodyfair.;):p
"god " says thou shalt not kill but he in the bible jealously slaughters and mutilates whole nations. pppffftt moody cunt :p
no matter how or what happens when you die we all go to the same plane of "existance", no one is as good or high as the next.

we are one :)

Which stories are you refering to? Did he actually kill nations based on his jealousy alone? I'm not looking for religious debate or anything, just interested :cool::)

I found this on a website.


In these verses, God is speaking of people making idols and bowing down and worshiping those idols instead of giving God the worship that belongs to Him alone. God is possessive of the worship and service that belong to Him. It is a sin (as God points out in this commandment) to worship or serve anything other than Him. So, in summary, it is a sin when we desire, or we are envious, or we are jealous of someone because he has something that we do not have. It is a different use of the word jealous when God says He is jealous. What He is jealous for belongs to Him; worship and service belong to Him alone, and are to be given to Him alone.

Perhaps a practical example will help us to understand the difference. If a husband sees another man flirting with his wife, he is right to be jealous, for only he has the right to flirt with his wife. This type of jealousy is not sinful. Rather, it is entirely appropriate. Being jealous for something that belongs to you is good and appropriate. Jealousy is a sin when it is a desire for something that does not belong to you. Worship, praise, honor, and adoration belong to God alone, for only He is truly worthy of it. Therefore, God is rightly jealous when worship, praise, honor, or adoration is given to idols. This is precisely the jealousy the Apostle Paul described in 2 Corinthians 11:2, "I am jealous for you with a godly jealousy..."

I have no idea why I'm posting this here. lol. It's far too heavy for this time of the morning. uuurgh. I havn't even had a cuppa yet.

[tracker]

Im going to start printing T shirts with, "Would you like Salt, Vinegar or Mind Control with your chips" on them, probably get the message out better than trying to convince people of the fact. When you talk about things like this all people see in their mind science fiction movies and their brain places no importance to it. In fact images from TV pretty much make up our visual memories. Glad I got rid of the Cable, I just watch things on DVD I choose to watch now, no news no gossip channels, no shit in other words.


:D

smart and witty !:D

[hw spartan]

Do you guys ever wonder if you're chipped already? Cellphones, tvs, computers, cars, appliances, pdas...do we use anything that doesn't have a chip? Do they even need to put a chip in your body when you're surrounded by them all the time? Just typing out loud...and trying to stay awake at work :p

i Agree
also...how about when Abducted by Aliens.. they can put chip in you
as much as black op teams can
and you wouldnt even know:)

http://www.metatech.org/ear_candles_alien_implants.html

http://www.cicap.org/new/articolo.php?id=101028

http://www.crystalinks.com/alienimplant.jpg

http://www.xenophilia.com/news/claw_bg.gif

[kblood]

http://www.biokon.net/industrie/kompetenzenNachStandorten.html.en

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neurobionics

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4396387.stm

http://www.news.com.au/story/0,10117,17013218-13762,00.html

Lots of stuff is surfacing these days. Doesnt take much to find it. It seems to be quite possible for biochips to already exist. The ones discovering this would probably know its worth alot more when secret, than when the public knows about it.

[infinite_consciousness]

I'd rather die.

[deckard]

I'd rather die.
same here, with guns blazing, Ill send some of these nwo goons to hell quickly, seeing as thats what they want to turn life on earth into.

[1971]

Do you think that we will see this in our life time?
Or what are the timeframes that they want this rolled out (UK)

[deca]

The DCDC Global Strategic Trends Programme 2007 – 2036

http://www.mod.uk/DefenceInternet/MicroSite/DCDC/OurPublications/StrategicTrends+Programme/

from page 98 in pdf reader or page 83 in print


“Broadcasts to the Brain

By 2035, an implantable information chip could be developed and wired directly to the

user’s brain. Information and entertainment choices would be accessible through

cognition and might include synthetic sensory perception beamed direct to the user’s

senses. Wider related ICT developments might include the invention of synthetic

telepathy, including mind-to-mind or telepathic dialogue. This type of development would

have obvious military and security, as well as control, legal and ethical, implications.”

[cafetimes1991]

I think many of us may already have been microchipped via microscopic microchips in vaccines. See Alice in Wonderland and the World Trade Center Disaster.

[iamallthatiam]

Do you think that we will see this in our life time?
Or what are the timeframes that they want this rolled out (UK)

Do you think that we will see this in our life time?
Or what are the timeframes that they want this rolled out (UK)

oh certainly. My eldest daughter, 16, came home from school the other day absolutely furious. instead of paying for school meals, her school want to introduce thumb scanners in the dinner hall.

The school are trying to justify this by saying that poorer kids entitled to free dinners, and pay with tokens because their parents are on low incomes, get singled out and bullied, therefore thumb scanners would prevent this. Also it will be used to help combat obesity as over the week they will be able to look back at what each child has eaten and incorporate this into nutritional based lessons promoting healthy diets ect

To identify each child the pc that picks up the scanned thumbprint would have to match it to personal data, which means they can store whatever they want on there, the next stage for this would scanned attendance to combat truancy and then how easy would it be to switch from scanner to chip ?? Very , because by this time everyone is used to it.

[iamallthatiam]

Chip or die ??

I will not being doing the chip thing and I will not be dying either. We can't carry on letting the PTB run our lives like this. What we need is a mass wake up call with everyone rebelling against "The System". We need to take our power back so that we are in control and stop this why we can. IT is so easy to do, we just need to get everyone to do it on a mass scale. The only reason it hasnt happened so far is because of the numbers that are still asleep, still living in fear, we need to wake up, lose all our fear. If we arent afraid anymore they cant manipulate us

[zendog]

Chip or die ??

I will not being doing the chip thing and I will not be dying either. We can't carry on letting the PTB run our lives like this. What we need is a mass wake up call with everyone rebelling against "The System". We need to take our power back so that we are in control and stop this why we can. IT is so easy to do, we just need to get everyone to do it on a mass scale. The only reason it hasnt happened so far is because of the numbers that are still asleep, still living in fear, we need to wake up, lose all our fear. If we arent afraid anymore they cant manipulate us

I totally agree - we must fight ID cards all the way and join organisations like www.no2id.net. We must get out on the streets now, in numbers, taking action to prevent this worst case scenario from ever taking place. If ID cards are successful then human microchipping will be next and we can't let this happen. Surely debating 'The Chip OR Die' is not only admitting defeat but helping to manifest this reality?

People are waking up and we need to accelerate this rapidly - anyone know of any other good organisations getting out there and spreading the word? We can stop this!

[carlo839]

I think you are worrying too much there are lots of people in this country who are very aware as you are that these things are coming and something needs to be done about them.
People like myself continue to work in the background as the manipulators have been doing for many years.
If you show your cards too soon you will be out of the game, why do you think people are getting more angry?? They just dont know the reason why but their DNA is waking to the world

[unimatrix0]

I would go to hell without hesitation if it meant my children would live (and possibly have the chance to fight also), so yes, I would take the chip if I thought it was in their best interest. If I didn't have children, HELL no, I wouldn't. I would rather die or run off into the hills and fight for my survival.

[kale]

LOL so many people prepared to die!!!!

I'd take it because....

ANYTHING that is made by man can be HAKKED by man

:D

[gordysmit]

I have all was had a dream that one day you can down load your life on to a chip and run it over and over again like the matrex. Now you get close to chips reading your memory. I must be close to death and my life starting over agian? :o

[iamallthatiam]

People are waking up and we need to accelerate this rapidly - anyone know of any other good organisations getting out there and spreading the word? We can stop this!

YEah , This is a really good place to start, i recommend taking a look at the free ebooks http://www.michaelsharp.org/free-ebooks/
there are many paths to awakening and this is the quickest I have found, we really do need to spreading this info to as many people as possible. Its not about fighting , its about bring your higher consciousness into your body in the quickest but safest possible way. Its about waking up and waking others up that sleep around you. Take a look at these
http://www.michaelsharp.org/parables/parable-of-the-room/
and
http://www.michaelsharp.org/parables/parable-of-the-ships/

Its easy once yu know how

lets me know what you think
Namaste
Angie x x

[thetruthseeker]

I still don't know how they are going to introduce something so radical and disturbing as a RFID chip into the public domain wthout people saying "You must be joking, no way, are you out of your mind". And the ones that have volunteered must be out of their minds and probably believed all the propaganda bullshit that it was going to be safe. I would hope that nearly everyone sees the dangers and then protest and then it will be scrapped into the dustbin of history hopefully along with all the pyscho's that are behind all this disturbing technology and fascist crap.

[bemore]

I still don't know how they are going to introduce something so radical and disturbing as a RFID chip into the public domain wthout people saying "You must be joking, no way, are you out of your mind". And the ones that have volunteered must be out of their minds and probably believed all the propaganda bullshit that it was going to be safe. I would hope that nearly everyone sees the dangers and then protest and then it will be scrapped into the dustbin of history hopefully along with all the pyscho's that are behind all this disturbing technology and fascist crap.

Ive often thought this Truth seeker, heres a few of my ideas on how they could possibly bring it into effect.

The global reccesion we have entered has only just started, they have predicted that things will get worse. So if we imagine it to hit the worse case scenarios where countries economies are near to the point of collapse, then a new radical way of banking could be brought in. If they were to bring in a whole new system then this would obviously have to be completly fail safe. One of the topics that they would cover would be security, for consumers, for businesses and for the future.

One of the possible signs of it coming allready could be seen as Gordon Browns recent efforts to "Rally" all of the worlds countires into singular action and co-operation in this current crisis.

When things in the economy get so bad that people are struggling in there day to day lives then this could be heralded as the answer to everybodys problems. Obviously officials would glam it up and sell its possible benefits. I think the implications of it being a possible way of controling the populous WOULD in certain arenas (BBC, NEWS NIGHT etc etc) be discussed, but then again like I said if things were that bad then people would embrace it to solve there problems.

The so called Movement of anti-goverment people I believe is still tiny. The huge majority of the worlds population TRUST there goverments and where trust is not there then they RELY on them. So the backlash againt them using the RFID chip wouldnt really affect it going through.

There are dozens of other ways that could trigger its use.

- E Terrorism
- Food shortages (they could use the RFID chip to make sure you get your rations for that day)
- Major Flu epidemic (The chip could be used to show that you are Clean or to allow access to restricted area)

If any one else can think of any other ways of it being brough in id love to hear there suggestions.

Peace

[antinwo]

LOL so many people prepared to die!!!!

I'd take it because....

ANYTHING that is made by man can be HAKKED by man

:D

Not that I will take the chip but I would not want my chip hacked by a stranger this is not a good reason to take the chip IMO

[zendog]

YEah , This is a really good place to start, i recommend taking a look at the free ebooks http://www.michaelsharp.org/free-ebooks/
there are many paths to awakening and this is the quickest I have found, we really do need to spreading this info to as many people as possible. Its not about fighting , its about bring your higher consciousness into your body in the quickest but safest possible way. Its about waking up and waking others up that sleep around you. Take a look at these
http://www.michaelsharp.org/parables/parable-of-the-room/
and
http://www.michaelsharp.org/parables/parable-of-the-ships/

Its easy once yu know how

lets me know what you think
Namaste
Angie x x

Thanks Angie that's great - I've downloaded the books and parables ready for some serious reading over the next couple of weeks, I'll let you know what I think...
x

[chocousbro77]

I will never place a got damn RFID inside my damn body...wtf i look like? a damn CYBORG HYBRID and shit.....in other words i dont think it will get that bad as far as GET THE CHIP OR YOU ARE AN OUTCAST OF SOCIETY....i know currently there are some naive minded human beings taking the chip but they will have to suffer the consequences of submitting their free will to a fascist state of mind.....IN MY OWN WORDS.............................................


FUCK THE CHIP

[siliconpsychosis]

Death please Mr Chip Man.

[ex sheep]

NFW NWO










SHOOT


















I'LL BE BACK


http://s35.photobucket.com/albums/d189/dimebar_probably/Smileys/th_chainsaw.gif

[branjo]

What if they were totally hackable and you could easily add 1 Million credits to it?

If it were Die or take it then I would take it but I would also try and remove it and keep it in my pocket or close to the injection point so I could pass scanners but leave it at home when I go buy some weed, or something else as equally rebellious :D

They will never try it though, maybe in a perfect nwo possible world, but not in the one we live in. They are nothing more than a group of rich men with no contact to reality, they have seen us as sheep for so long that they have forgetten we can tear them apart at the drop of a hat.

If I was forced to have a chip implanted then I would force every member of the Rockefeller family to have a broken bottle enema implanted. :)

[armoured_amazon]

If I was forced to have a chip implanted then I would force every member of the Rockefeller family to have a broken bottle enema implanted. :)

:D

[lyrag]

I recon i probably got chipped when i had the TB jab at school or any of the operations iv had over the years. They could easily do it without you knowing, without the hospital staff knowing, some technology can be microscopic

[captaincaper]

I recon i probably got chipped when i had the TB jab at school or any of the operations iv had over the years. They could easily do it without you knowing, without the hospital staff knowing, some technology can be microscopic


Ive often thought have we all already been inplanted as kids through vacinations and are having this reality programmed to us.

[macgyver]

I'm fully prepared right now for someone to put a gun to my head. "Chip or no chip"....."PULL THE TRIGGER, BITCH"

I'll reject it too... being shot would be the nicest way to go when you consider the alternatives :eek:

[ayomide]

I'd rather die - my life and my fellow brothers and sisters lives have value and you cannot number a human being let alone control. I'll fight to the death for this worlds freedom!

[friendsinthesky]

Fuck the chip and fuck dying, I'll move on when I'm ready.

[bellini]

so many lies and distractions to keep us all under the proverbial thumb. when we decide to say no more to the oppressive tryannists who have all the control, we take back what was not given to these people rightfully in the first place?
check it out, how do think in the past people took control in the first place? through forming governments, constructed to control everything, through developing structures like telephones and televisions to do it all for us.
well now we've got our own medium, our voice in cyberspace!
we could form a party so great that it would out number all present parties, we can use the tech against the powers that be.
and if they try cheat the figures, then we just don't take it lying down in front of our tvs' anymore, moaning at the screen about all the injustices in the world, we get together through the mediums available, I mean, come on, you don't really think the govs have enough manpower to stop joe public, and if you do think that, then I really don't blame you, its the system of gentle persuasion, through the media, to manipulate your minds' into thinking you can't do anything.
history tells us over and over, when the good people have had enough they will act accordingly.
and as the great Bob Marley said, 'you can fool some people sometimes but you can't fool all the people all the time'
for myself having faith, and hope, and a belief, that good will prevail over evil, keeps my feet on the goodstep of life. stay positive. have pure thought, consider others.
thank goodness for men like David Icke, how would we expose whats really happening, without people like him?

[merlincove]

I will never place a got damn RFID inside my damn body...wtf i look like? a damn CYBORG HYBRID and shit.....in other words i dont think it will get that bad as far as GET THE CHIP OR YOU ARE AN OUTCAST OF SOCIETY....i know currently there are some naive minded human beings taking the chip but they will have to suffer the consequences of submitting their free will to a fascist state of mind.....IN MY OWN WORDS.............................................


FUCK THE CHIP


just picked this one up - one of the first things in this morning.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/5/20081125/twl-microchip-tags-for-aids-patients-3fd0ae9.html

David has been saying for years how they would introduce this into society, and it seems that they are picking their targets. Aids patients, so they can monitor their health. Yeah right. For 'sexualy aggresive patients, read criminals, because that'll be the next call, incarserated gunea pigs who haven't got a voice - there'll no surprise there. Just another step closer eh?




Death please Mr Chip Man.

i'll be right beside you there then silicon :cool:

i am surprised that the madelaine maccan case, and even the Soham case, didn't get a more heftier push from the zionists who are trying to get us all chipped - for our own safety. I thought when these things happened that that was the agenda there. Thos cases certainly highlighted the thing within people's minds.

Some car manufacturer has developed a key fob that you can wave at petrol pumps - the ones that are equipped to recieve the info - when you fill up the car, no money, no transaction, fuel and go. The fob sends the info and pays the bill and off you go. No human interatction at all. Chips in car keys that hold the financial data, and who knows what else? The fooking thing drive the car as well because the no-brain who owns it can't think for himself?

Again, another step closer.

i wonder when will people wake up?

Sorry for rant, this kinda thing just saddens me so....

[impermanence]

Do we get salt and vinegar, maybe some mayonnaise?

[merlincove]

Do we get salt and vinegar, maybe some mayonnaise?

awesome :p:p:cool::p

[illuminati downfall]

Honestly my answer now is I don't know. I really cannot answer that question in this moment. I think it';s one of those things that if I was ever actually in that situation, my heart would tell me what to do then. I would never condemn anyone for making either choice in any case. No matter what everyone choices, we all have our reasons. The way I see it though myself is that either way I am screwed and I gain nothing. If I chose to die, I'd not even get the satisfaction of knowing the guilt of having to kill one more person, would hurt them, because I know it really wouldn't. I would just be giving my life to heartless people who don't care, all for the sake of stubborn pride. if I allowed myself to be chipped, that of course is what they want, and I would lose so many of my rights and personal power. Wow, that is a tough question.

[darkmere]

Honestly my answer now is I don't know. I really cannot answer that question in this moment. I think it';s one of those things that if I was ever actually in that situation, my heart would tell me what to do then. I would never condemn anyone for making either choice in any case. No matter what everyone choices, we all have our reasons. The way I see it though myself is that either way I am screwed and I gain nothing. If I chose to die, I'd not even get the satisfaction of knowing the guilt of having to kill one more person, would hurt them, because I know it really wouldn't. I would just be giving my life to heartless people who don't care, all for the sake of stubborn pride. if I allowed myself to be chipped, that of course is what they want, and I would lose so many of my rights and personal power. Wow, that is a tough question.

+1

I answered that yes I would take the chip. Its probably not worth dying over. the question is too black or white, no grey area. Will I resist the chip? Yes! But will I die rather than be chipped, probably not.

[john connor]

How do we know these guys in Mumbai were not chipped or programmed? if we are chipped wouldnt we cease to be us anyway? we would be walking zombies part of a world computer. I have read where micro chips have had cells put on them and they grew and communicated with each other and that was a low key experiment, I can only imagine what the well funded PTB have been doing. Here is a P R S for you, they create the problem - Flu pandemic, the reaction is Fear and please save us, the solution is the Cure ( 4-6 months later once a few 100 million are dead) which has a chip in the immunization, we wouldnt even know we were chipped.

[macgyver]

I'm still wondering if the chip has something to do with the 'Mark of the Beast'... :confused:
You can make a good case for and against this consideration. I am not quite sure what to think of it. Here's an example of someone trying to link both subjects:

http://www.trumpetmin.org/mark%20of%20beast.htm

What are your opinions?

[wisdomgirl]

Im just curious ...one day the micro-chip will be compulsory, will you and your family take the chip and live happily ever after, or will you refuse the chip and face being taken off to concentration camps to be slaughtered ...along with your family?

This will be extra harder on those of you that have wives/ husbands/ kids!!!

I'm not afraid of death and my family are the same. Those cunts can fucking kill me. My family and i will meet again so they can take me out, but i won't go down without a fight i can tell ya!

[devanshoom]

death is often more attractive than this day to day headfuck struggle called life......and that is without a chip.

[macgyver]

death is often more attractive than this day to day headfuck struggle called life......and that is without a chip.

Agreed! ;)

[misterethoughts]

I rather die!

[macgyver]

I rather die!

Nice website! Keep it up :)

[ustane]

No I won't take the chip...never, NEVER!

[hagbard_celine]

No I won't take the chip...never, NEVER!

Me neither!:):cool:

If we do that we're as good as dead becuase we'll be zombies. The CIA scientist David met told us to say no to the chip if we say no to just one thing!

[element]

I can't believe 19 people want to have a piece of technology in their bodies.
I would rather become a thief and raid the shops.:D

[measle_weasel]

Im just curious ...one day the micro-chip will be compulsory, will you and your family take the chip and live happily ever after, or will you refuse the chip and face being taken off to concentration camps to be slaughtered ...along with your family?

This will be extra harder on those of you that have wives/ husbands/ kids!!!

Well it depends.

Can the chip be removed somewhat safely, by an untrained, determined person with a sharp object? And by somewhat safely I mean without losing a limb or causing brain damage.

Would the chip be able to influence/control your actions? Or would it only hold records?

Theres a lot of variables here.

If the chip basicly turned people into automatons, I would reject the chip, even if the probability was low.

If the chip was a record keeper and tracking device, I would accept the chip, and would then remove it from my hand, or arm, assuming it could still be usefull outside the body. If would not be usefull, ie it turned itself off as it sensed being removed, then I might even still accept the chip if it were possible to read/write to the chip with the proper devices and knowledge.

But ultimately the answer would be no, as the second example I gave is describing the chip that will come out first, and the first example is the chip that the second example will eventually become. So it would be a balancing act; a game of timing, knowing when to enter, and when to exit.

[therealknockoff]

umm... i'm running away and living in the woods, not dying or killing or accepting the mark of the beast...

[hey_jude]

If you accept a microchip implant - you're already lost imo.

How could you ever come back and rebel from that position? I think we're talking post 2012 here and I have faith in the human race to wake up before then!

[measle_weasel]

How could you ever come back and rebel from that position?

Dig it out with a pin and some tweasers? Assuming its in your hand, or arm. A brain implant would get kinda tricky, though.

[noobcybot]

Dig it out with a pin and some tweasers? Assuming its in your hand, or arm. A brain implant would get kinda tricky, though.

The technology available would sort of fuse it to your tissues.

[measle_weasel]

The technology available would sort of fuse it to your tissues.

Well in that case, Id never accept a chip, as removing it may be problematic for a single person, and could damage nerves.

But I had in mind when writing the above, that the chip would be something akin to todays subdermal chips, that just sit there under the skin, or in some tissue.

[clint web]

Do you guys ever wonder if you're chipped already? Cellphones, tvs, computers, cars, appliances, pdas...do we use anything that doesn't have a chip? Do they even need to put a chip in your body when you're surrounded by them all the time? Just typing out loud...and trying to stay awake at work

Excellent point made /\


We're chipped already, that's for sure. Sticking the chip in us is just the next logical step for them. I think it's a couple of generations away. They need to do a bit more mind conditioning on the kids with thumb scans in schools, chips in their pets etc. One day the idea will seem just normal. They don't need to do it to us, they can just wait a while.

[measle_weasel]

Excellent point made /\


We're chipped already, that's for sure. Sticking the chip in us is just the next logical step for them. I think it's a couple of generations away. They need to do a bit more mind conditioning on the kids with thumb scans in schools, chips in their pets etc. One day the idea will seem just normal. They don't need to do it to us, they can just wait a while.

Indeed. Gradualism is how its done most effectively... of course, barring some catastrophic event, like a new pearl harbor, that would act as a time catalyst, says PNAC.

[hey_jude]

Excellent point made /\


We're chipped already, that's for sure. Sticking the chip in us is just the next logical step for them. I think it's a couple of generations away. They need to do a bit more mind conditioning on the kids with thumb scans in schools, chips in their pets etc. One day the idea will seem just normal. They don't need to do it to us, they can just wait a while.

They don't need that much to do!

I got my daughter off the fingerprint database at her school and told the Head if he didn't start informing the parents what he was doing I would camp outside the school and tell them myself lol
He has now included a flyer within the "new intake" information package.

But talking to my daughter and her friends and their parents "they actually think it's "COOL" and are not concerned by it at all."

[bim11]

the chip i personally beleive it would be good

im against the whole nwo thing, but the chip would be good - i dont listen to all this negative videos and other nagtive propaganda saying that its bad,

[element]

the chip i personally beleive it would be good

im against the whole nwo thing, but the chip would be good - i dont listen to all this negative videos and other nagtive propaganda saying that its bad,

Why would it be good to put technology in your body?
Isn't the world already enough mechanisized? Do we also have to mechanise organic things?

Fact remains, everything that is new is always manipulated for greedy goals.
I certainly would never let a microchip in my body, it's suicide. And what if things go wrong? Check the microchip doctor...LOL:eek:

[macgyver]

As the chip-pushers know that the body is only the vessel for the soul, they want a foot in the door, I suppose. Take over the body to try to take over the soul.

[measle_weasel]

As the chip-pushers know that the body is only the vessel for the soul, they want a foot in the door, I suppose. Take over the body to try to take over the soul.

I dont think the soul can be taken over. It doesnt seem to make rational sense if you believe in free will.

[kblood]

Scientists extract images directly from brain
http://www.pinktentacle.com/2008/12/scientists-extract-images-directly-from-brain/

;)

[masonicboom]

no shit, the chip is unneccessary but hey iuf i cant spell tha tshit sho the fuck cares no chip needed with the technology they have and use its fucking over and i will take both the chipo and death

[macgyver]

I dont think the soul can be taken over. It doesnt seem to make rational sense if you believe in free will.

I believe in free will! :)

And be not afraid of those killing the body, and are not able to kill the soul, but fear rather Him who is able both soul and body to destroy in gehenna. - Mt. 10:28

[alecereda]

well prefer to die that get a microchip are u kidding me?
even if we re slowely dying if people doesn t wake up.

i wanna mention this song from immortal technique

[Verse]
Yea... Yea... Ay yo
The things I've seen in life will make you choke by suprise
Like an aborted fetus in a jar that opened it's eyes
Provoking my demise, I'll leave your spirit broken inside
Like the feeling of 50 million people hoping you'd die
And niggaz wonder why my heary is filled of hatred an anger
Cause some bitch killed my first born song with a coat hanger
I strangled out the pain until my soul was empty was cold
Crippled and worthless, so I thought that it could never be sold
My mother told me that placing my faith in God was the answer
But then I hated God cause he gave my mother cancer
Killing us slow like the Feds did to the Blank Panthers
The genesis of genocide is like a Pagan religion
Carefully hidden, woven into the holidays of a Christain
I had a vision of nuclear holocaust on top of me
And this is prophecy, the words that I speak from my lungs
The severed head of John the Baptist speaking in tongues
Like "Cheke vara" my soliloquies speak to a gun
Paint in slow motion like trees that reach for the sun
Nigga the preaching is done cause I don't got a DJ
Like Reverond Run, I curse the life of any man who kills
Benevolent ones, I never asked to be the messenger
But I was chosen to speak the words of every African slave
Dumped in the ocean, stolen by America
Tortured, buried, and frozen written out of the history books
Your children are holding, internally bleeding, cold blooded
Stripped of emotion, I go through the motions, but there's no
Life in my eyes, it's like I'm hooked up to a respirator
Waiting to die, hooked up to the fucking chair
Waiting to fry, sooth an electrocution currently used
In my execution, producing thoughts at the speed of light
Burning confusion, I'm loosing my sight, breathing is tight
The evening is white, I made my peace with the Lord and now I
Stand on his right..

[Hook]
Death is a another part of life..
These are my last words, I'm having difficultly breathing
Dying on the inside, internally bleeding
Angel of death dragging me away while I'm sleeping
Watching my world crumble in front of me, searching for meaning
These are my last words, I'm having difficultly breathing
Dying on the inside, internally bleeding
Angel of death dragging me away while I'm sleeping
Watching my world crumble in front of me, searching for meaning

Testi di Immortal Technique

livin in struglle for a better wordl

[sloughi]

Since they have enforced that you have HDTV rather than an implant, you certainly will be programmed.

February 17, 2009

[stinky catz]

I'd rather die for what I believe in, than be a slave to the NWO/tptb. I'd rather live a short life as free human, than a long life imprisoned with fear. Life goes on.

[bensonz]

I'm fully prepared right now for someone to put a gun to my head. "Chip or no chip"....."PULL THE TRIGGER, BITCH"


Yeah pull the triger beeaaaaaaaatch

[bensonz]

Considering that all of us have heard many warnings about the chip, mainly derived by books of Christianity, it would be a terrible mistake to get the chip. By taking it, you clearly declare the side you belong to. We have all been warned. I personally prefer to live in theiblentains than join the ones I now "hate".

Strange times, hard challenges. We should be proud to resist...:o


The microhip prohepsey is out of the bible its biblial scripural prohecy written 2000 plus years ago and its happening right freaken now maybe) or maybe the illumita wrote the bible they knew what the plan was from the start right, they knew that when the technology became available IE Chipimplant solutions in the future bcause they had this technology once before the clone wars.

Those who dont belive in the bible have nothing to fear but fear itself (roosevelt?) For youll be in the wolrd wide system that is experiencing unprecedented succes lead by a Charsmatic Political leader bringing peace and ecomic success to the wolrd and there with be three and half year perod of great times ( think or maybe its seven years of trbulation, sorry no goodtimes this is when people will begin to realise what is really going on, particularly after the rapture of the saints.

\
http://grovergunn.net/andrew/disp14.htm
http://www.raptureready.com/


But you can stil become a post tribulation saint by holding out till the end of the three and half years of pestilense grevous boils n stuff.
Until Christ comes back to earth again with his army and the battle takes please we win and its happy ever after. Or of course you can save yourself alot of hassle and book your free tickets for the ratpture, Im ridden that puppy baby, yeah daddy.

You must however except death if you are offered the chioce the quetsion, you will be aksed is do you believe in god, you will be aksed if you trust in Jesus Chrsit as Saviour, by then you will truely believe that and you will say
yes, if you to not denounce this faith and bow to theire god, you will be behaded by a guilitine, large guiltines from farnce are being shipped aroung the wolrd (poestic lisence on that last bit, its unsubstantiated) But you go straight to heaven after death. Phew. Well thats the good news folks.

Merry Christmas Celebrating Jesus's Birth, happy birthday Jesus,
http://www.the-end.com/Download_Free_Book.asp

[schism2o12]

I'd have to say death, death is an illusion anyway.
I'll just be pure consciousness, nothing can destroy that.

[obliviousdemise]

I don't really think they would give you a choice, or care about allowing you to live. If you study what the whack job elitists believe, one of their ultimate goals is to wipe out billions off of the planet.

But if it ever came down to it, I would choose death.

[steevo]

I don't really think they would give you a choice, or care about allowing you to live. If you study what the whack job elitists believe, one of their ultimate goals is to wipe out billions off of the planet.

But if it ever came down to it, I would choose death.

Would you really CHOOSE death ? We dont NEED to choose death AT ALL. The title of this thread suggests you do but....:cool:

I wont except the chip and I will certainly not CHOOSE death either. I have no intention of dying or getting the chip.

[svadil]

between Chip or death.. I feel, I have done my part and I can accept death.. This is only a transport vehicle, the Spirit will always remain, and is free and I would rather have free spirit than one under the leash.
HOWEVER, if there was a THIRD option..
deny The Chip and revolt I would have to go fur that instead..
Not just fur myself, but for the free people, The Animals of the World and Mother Nature and The planet :)

[jagabags]

NEITHER!!!
As the time approaches, we'll be forced to go UNDERGROUND!
We will need to start taking matters into our own hands.....ck the LAW because the law is not based on the TRUTH!
The truth WILL set us free!

So my advice to you now is to start taking actions to remove yourself as best you can, from the "grid."Life will become just another exciting new challenge.

We need to be prepared to fight for our freedom...like our ancestors did.

We need to be prepared to die for the freedom of our children and grandchildren.

And just remember that our consciousness never dies, it is eternal.
I'LL BE BACK!!!

Questions like this should give us more of a reason to live!!!
"VIVA LIFE!"

[happyman]

i would rather die

[lyrag]

NEITHER!!!
As the time approaches, we'll be forced to go UNDERGROUND!


Why????

[jonny78]

I wouldn't take the chip. Period. If I die, then I die. Not trying to sound macho, but it doesn't bother me now that I understand infinite consciousness.

[moina]

I would rather die than take the "mark of the beast" but I would like to go out with a bang.:D

[dusthead]

I don't think I'll live to see the day when people are implanted with microchips. It's too costly, people just aren't that gullible and it would be a pretty unworkable system.

I certainly wouldn't want to be the politician in charge of a system like that. The office flunkies can't even look after a laptop on a train these days.

The NHS would go mental! You'd have a full on strike on your hands. People in waiting lists for hip replacements wouldn't be too happy either.

[lightblessins]

if it was 1 or the other, i would get chipped, because no technology which they av, can ever effect the power of the light which i av, my light force always grows and they can chip me, plug me and try to control me, but they will never succeed as the power of light always will over come their darkness!:D

[karol2020]

If it really come when i´m still born, I will never let they put this chip in me or the people I know.... not really....


"They can try to bind our arms but they can´t chain our minds or hearts
We will keep our faith inside our souls and never let it go
we´re forever free." Forever free- Stratovarius

[martthenge]

The Chip is being phased into public consciousness every day, soon it will be implied that we all need to purchase a chip to continue in society....

Fuck the chip

www.fuckthechip.com

[clachan]

Yes..take the chip or die......or get out the system altogether,we rely on them for everything,so plan your escape.Its YOU & MOTHER EARTH.
I grow enough food for my families existence,nature provides all we need as long as we look after ourselves.
We have become totally reliant on them,the only way out is to take responsibility for your own life.Easier said than done but its the only way.
I dont think yuo,ll be hauled off to a concerntration camp....just wont be able to buy or sell,that means food,petrol or anything else,life would soon[very soon]become impossible unless you dont rely on "the chip".

[ustane]

I wouldn't take the chip. Period. If I die, then I die. Not trying to sound macho, but it doesn't bother me now that I understand infinite consciousness.

I agree. The same goes for me.

[malkor]

Well, it does make sense to microchip livestock. Can't have you wandering around to places you shouldn't be.

Most of you say you won't voluntarily take the chip. I bet most of you didn't voluntarily get circumcised either. If it happens, it'll most likely happen in the hospital while you're still a mewling babe.

[motokeiru]

I'll put my life on the line, it's either live free or die trying.

[motokeiru]

Yes..take the chip or die......or get out the system altogether,we rely on them for everything,so plan your escape.Its YOU & MOTHER EARTH.
I grow enough food for my families existence,nature provides all we need as long as we look after ourselves.
We have become totally reliant on them,the only way out is to take responsibility for your own life.Easier said than done but its the only way.
I dont think yuo,ll be hauled off to a concerntration camp....just wont be able to buy or sell,that means food,petrol or anything else,life would soon[very soon]become impossible unless you dont rely on "the chip".

Yes, good post.

[karol2020]

Have come to my mind now that if the it is really a plan of the PTB to put a chip on us and considering they are intelligent to find the easies way to do this, then, it will be put in us without our knowlegde. They will not make we stand in a line saying "is your time if you dont take the chip you will..."
It will be done in a hidding way like throught vaccinations, cell phone, ID card without we knowing we are taking it so we cant resist because we think it´s a good thing....

Do you agree? And if yes, what if te chip already exists and we don´t know?


:confused: especulations...

[manxboz]

I will not take the chip, if i have to i will die, if i can run then i will run and live of the land.

[armoured_amazon]

Have come to my mind now that if the it is really a plan of the PTB to put a chip on us and considering they are intelligent to find the easies way to do this, then, it will be put in us without our knowlegde. They will not make we stand in a line saying "is your time if you dont take the chip you will..."
It will be done in a hidding way like throught vaccinations, cell phone, ID card without we knowing we are taking it so we cant resist because we think it´s a good thing....

Do you agree? And if yes, what if te chip already exists and we don´t know?


:confused: especulations...

But that goes against the free will law, which I think they subscribe to.

[malkor]

But that goes against the free will law, which I think they subscribe to.

There is no free will law but there is always an escape clause if you are smart enough to find it.