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cruise4
22-02-2008, 01:57 PM
In the below interview Richard Hoagland says there are three main factions vying for control; The Nazis, The Masons and The Magicians.

He also suggests that maybe The Masons have been covertly taken over by the Nazis and prior to this The Masons were "the good guys".

If we take this idea as a hypothesis which groups do the illuminati, New World Order, Religious groups, Vatican et. belong to?

If there are 'Good Guys' why do they persist in not just blowing open this whole thing to the Public asap. I don't buy the society will fall apart argument. Most people don't care. Others just want the truth.

I've been convinced that only the people on a worldwide scale working together can actually tackle whats coming up around the corner and always taken the point of view of 'No Secrets'. Now, however I find myself in a quandary. I have some explosive DVD's on Free Energy and Scalar Technology and the ability to get them to decent level technology departments in various industries. BUT SHOULD I? This is dangerous stuff in wrong or amateur hands and I'm now concerned I could add to, or even cause, a major issue.

What do people think? Please don't reply if you just wish to say its all bunkum. You just make yourself look foolish as there is no question about this stuff being real. I'll add the level and amount of info I've put together is considerably greater than that just found via normal internet perusal.


Project Camelot Interviews Richard Hoagland - Part 1 of 3 - YouTube

Project Camelot Interviews Richard Hoagland - Part 2 of 3 - YouTube

Project Camelot Interviews Richard Hoagland - Part 3 of 3 - YouTube

limelady
22-02-2008, 02:07 PM
Hi cruise.

No need to convince me about the level of scalar and free energy technologies already in existence. The problem as I see it is that they are ALREADY in the wrong hands, and they are being deliberately kept within the confines of the various black projects who have no desire to release this technology for the betterment of humanity.

Hmmmm, I'd need to think about this some more before I could offer you any worthwhile advice..

Meantime I'd LOVE to see your DVD's :D

mynameis
22-02-2008, 02:13 PM
Interesting you should post this. I figured that the Anglo-Saxon German Royal line who weren't in line with the English throne was destroyed out of competition. The beneficiaries were the English. Both German and Russian royal families who supported the Nazi regime were destroyed over the war. I suspect the Crown maneuvered this.

lifeofbrian
22-02-2008, 03:20 PM
In the below interview Richard Hoagland says there are three main factions vying for control; The Nazis, The Masons and The Magicians.

He also suggests that maybe The Masons have been covertly taken over by the Nazis and prior to this The Masons were "the good guys".

If we take this idea as a hypothesis which groups do the illuminati, New World Order, Religious groups, Vatican et. belong to?

If there are 'Good Guys' why do they persist in not just blowing open this whole thing to the Public asap. I don't buy the society will fall apart argument. Most people don't care. Others just want the truth.

I've been convinced that only the people on a worldwide scale working together can actually tackle whats coming up around the corner and always taken the point of view of 'No Secrets'. Now, however I find myself in a quandary. I have some explosive DVD's on Free Energy and Scalar Technology and the ability to get them to decent level technology departments in various industries. BUT SHOULD I? This is dangerous stuff in wrong or amateur hands and I'm now concerned I could add to, or even cause, a major issue.

What do people think? Please don't reply if you just wish to say its all bunkum. You just make yourself look foolish as there is no question about this stuff being real. I'll add the level and amount of info I've put together is considerably greater than that just found via normal internet perusal.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDEcfohz8xE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Sto4F2vBZg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEsPKcRV5ZE

Before viewing the interviews by Bill and Kerry (Project Camelot) a few weeks ago I too was unaware that there might be a distinction between the Illuminati Nazis and the Masons. For quite some time I deeply regretted having spread so much venom about masons per se. Then again, people like Blavatsky warned the world that infiltrations were happening in her time, and Eisenhower warned the world as well:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-924018348692257066&q=Eisenhower&total=2272&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0


http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history.do?action=Article&id=2549
In his farewell address to the nation, President Dwight D. Eisenhower warns the American people to keep a careful eye on what he calls the "military-industrial complex" that has developed in the post-World War II years.

A fiscal conservative, Eisenhower had been concerned about the growing size and cost of the American defense establishment since he became president in 1953. In his last presidential address to the American people, he expressed those concerns in terms that frankly shocked some of his listeners.

Eisenhower began by describing the changing nature of the American defense establishment since World War II. No longer could the U.S. afford the "emergency improvisation" that characterized its preparations for war against Germany and Japan. Instead, the United States was "compelled to create a permanent armaments industry" and a huge military force. He admitted that the Cold War made clear the "imperative need for this development," but he was gravely concerned about "the acquisition of unwarranted influence...by the military-industrial complex." In particular, he asked the American people to guard against the "danger that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite."

Eisenhower's blunt language stunned some of his supporters. They believed that the man who led the country to victory in Europe in World War II and guided the nation through some of the darkest moments of the Cold War was too negative toward the military-industrial complex that was the backbone of America's defense. For most listeners, however, it seemed clear that Eisenhower was merely stating the obvious. World War II and the ensuing Cold War resulted in the development of a large and powerful defense establishment. Necessary though that development might be, Eisenhower warned, this new military-industrial complex could weaken or destroy the very institutions and principles it was designed to protect.



IMO the average Joe and Jane are not as stupid as the Elite has tried to convey to us through means like voxpop. IMO regular people would appreciate everything out in the open as it would give more meaning to life and hope when it comes to actual change being possible.

What elitists reckon is wasted on average people - due to the so called "stupidity" and "sheeple-mentality" - is a construct born in their own megalomaniac heads.

With an ounce of information and shared power, people are not stupid.

I reckon that is what those hiding in elitist societies fear.

thetonic
22-02-2008, 04:05 PM
Richard Hoagland?.. Cmon cruise4 ... This guy doesnt know whats going on at the top

lifeofbrian
22-02-2008, 04:15 PM
Regarding the Vatican, I just remembered that Malachi Martin hinted in his book "Windswept House" (I think it was) that dark forces had moved in.

At the end of the day, I run with clues until something else suggests otherwise, and try to keep in mind that whistleblowers are giving their version of the truth as they were compartmentalised to handle and work on.

cruise4
23-02-2008, 04:49 PM
"This guy doesnt know whats going on at the top"

I don't disagree, but its still an interesting point to discuss. There is SO MUCH cross interests between these groups I find it impossible to seperate them. It seems much more likely these are just the penultimate level to the top which has yet to be unveiled. It also might point to a fourth unidentified group going on the Pyramid theme. Of course they'd 'think' they were all seperate because of compartmentalisation (long word).

intruder
23-02-2008, 05:22 PM
and Mr. Hoagland is need of an X in his name. Hoaxland!! Ahhhh...that's better!!

Did you ever see his video of him desperately trying to convince his audience of these "crystalline" structures on the moon? pathetic. The "face" on Mars? diversions!!!

intruder
23-02-2008, 05:23 PM
The nazis, the masons, and the magicians!! Damn, I thought they were one and the same!?!?!?! PISS OFF RICHARD!!!!

the nazis? Oh right, magicians in that they too (like the magic Arabs) were able to suspend the laws of physics and thermodynamics in their day.

You MUST remember that MANY have realized that it can be quite profitable to string together theories and open up the lecture circuit. it's a business with Richard. Before you label me....please remeber that I have been researching Richard and his work since about 1993.