Bring England to a standstill

[spirorb]

:cool:Hi every one. My first posting. Now how to bring England to a standstill. In the 60's we had a national strike which crippled every major port, rail, and so on&on it spread.I came home from school to bread & dripping for dinner, our flowery garden became a veggie plot. So now we have a plot, dig up your flowers and start planting, talk to your friends, neighbours,& family, work together and swop carrots for potatoes & so on. Also start your own neighbourhood watch to protect your Families & your crops from obnoxious parasites who will interfere with your rights, the BILL OF RIGHTS which is still inforce, remember the bill of rights was drafted by the people for the people & cannot be amended in anyway shape or form,get a copy & copy it and spread them about,so get printing.It's now time to act, bring about a national strike & then, WE HAVE THE POWER WHICH IS HOW IT SHOULD BE not the fascist dictators, you must think of your childrens future, if you don't act they & us will have no future. As for the banks withdraw most of your money leave a few £s in,this will start a domino effect,you could also buy gold which is what my wife & I have already done, our bank said to us "have we upset you"? no! we don't trust you any more. Peace & Love to you all. spirorb.

[dangermouse]

nice idea .. love the avatar .. I thought Gandhi was dead ^^

[manchurian_candidate]

:cool:Hi every one. My first posting. Now how to bring England to a standstill. In the 60's we had a national strike which crippled every major port, rail, and so on&on it spread.I came home from school to bread & dripping for dinner, our flowery garden became a veggie plot. So now we have a plot, dig up your flowers and start planting, talk to your friends, neighbours,& family, work together and swop carrots for potatoes & so on. Also start your own neighbourhood watch to protect your Families & your crops from obnoxious parasites who will interfere with your rights, the BILL OF RIGHTS which is still inforce, remember the bill of rights was drafted by the people for the people & cannot be amended in anyway shape or form,get a copy & copy it and spread them about,so get printing.It's now time to act, bring about a national strike & then, WE HAVE THE POWER WHICH IS HOW IT SHOULD BE not the fascist dictators, you must think of your childrens future, if you don't act they & us will have no future. As for the banks withdraw most of your money leave a few £s in,this will start a domino effect,you could also buy gold which is what my wife & I have already done, our bank said to us "have we upset you"? no! we don't trust you any more. Peace & Love to you all. spirorb.



As much as I would like to withdraw my money and not have a bank account at all, I have to be paid into my bank account, I have a loan on it etc :(:(
I am not sure what I can do about that :confused::confused:

[dangermouse]

Bu yeah now I think about it I am paid to my bank account too:mad:

[manchurian_candidate]

Bu yeah now I think about it I am paid to my bank account too:mad:

I cant think of any way around it as my employers in particular will find it suspicious... :confused::confused:

[asentinel]

... loan account. But you will have to have money to live off. However if you strike, there will be no income coming in anyway.

I think they have made it illegal to strike here, if it affects essential services.

Also I have not heard of any companies who will offer alternatives and not pay into a bank account.

good luck with other strategies though.

[manchurian_candidate]

... loan account. But you will have to have money to live off. However if you strike, there will be no income coming in anyway.

I think they have made it illegal to strike here, if it affects essential services.

Also I have not heard of any companies who will offer alternatives and not pay into a bank account.

good luck with other strategies though.

Thanks for the advice, I think I am seriously going to look into other options of being paid as I have never agreed with the concept of banking since discovering all that is going on in the world.

p.s. I like your signature!!! :)

[spirorb]

Hi well you've all seen the film INDEPENDENCE DAY where the drunk pilot flies up into the ship & shouts-- I'MMM BAAACK!! well GANDHI is alive & kicking.Money the root of all evil. I understand how you feel I've been down that road, soon there will be a complete economic collapse world wide, which has been planned by the Banksers just like the 30s in the US. So when you get your wages withdraw it but leave a few £s,banks make huge profits from leading your money out & whats in it, you get alittle bit of interest (big deal) now sell all your clutter but keep the things which are important to your survival. TV can go it's only a brainwashing tool flashing lights, sound wave, that interfere with your brain. Tell you what-- DON'T WATCH TV FOR 2 WEEKS,then watch it again for a 4 hours or more, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.Get a good book on survival, what you can eat from the wilds,a good camping shop stock some very good books. All we have is this computer no tv, ipod, radio, even the car is going. we are left now with just the basic needs for our survival & we feel so much better in our selves. So put your thinking caps on, We will have our INDEPENDENCE DAY.Is it against the law to strike what are they going to do about it???? turn our country into a prison camp, I think not, not when millions march on London to kick out this evil covernment, & have a new goverment elected by people who are known by there deeds & honesty. then post the bill of rights every where so people will know there rights every county should have its own ministers who work together for the people & no more secrets nothing shall be hidden from public view.We the people of the British Isles are the LAW. I rest my case for the time being. Peace & Love to you all. spirorb (gandhi)

[h2pogo]

great idea.civil disobediance is the way forward.
striking fucks the people as much as the power.
i think a tax revolt is called for and is legal under common law.

http://www.tpuc.org/node/235

By paying Tax I am in breach of the 1848 Treason Felony Act which quite clearly states that I cannot give this government any aid or support for they still continue to act treasonously against our Queen on a daily basis and have done for many years previously.

july 4 there is freedom rally out side parliment.

[lightgiver]

we need to get to the root cause THE GODDAMN BANKERS:eek:

lets take them out, the lot of em,:mad:

Rockefeller ,Rothschild's,bilderbergs,

lets take em out,

they are the cause of all this shit,,

and when they are dealt with ,

then we can sort the rest out:mad:;):D

Send for the hashiassins, they will do it,

even i am contemplating it,

i am sick of it all,

they have been getting away with it for to long...............................

now is the time................

[h2pogo]

we need to get to the root cause THE GODDAMN BANKERS:eek:

lets take them out, the lot of em,:mad:

Rockefeller ,Rothschild's,bilderbergs,

lets take em out,

they are the cause of all this shit,,

and when they are dealt with ,

then we can sort the rest out:mad:;):D

thank full to historians and the INTERNET it may be possible.
we know who they are.

[lightgiver]

thank Full To Historians And The Internet It May Be Possible.
We Know Who They Are.

Oooohhhhh Yyyyeeeeaaaahhhhh;):D:D

[cruise4]

Bringing things to a standstill is only useful if we then march in and actually arrest/get the ringleaders. It's the latter part that matters. Then we can forgive all debt, get rid of all enforced payments, get free energy galvanised throughout the country and redistribute land. Actually cure people to reduce the National Health drain and get our Soldiers back home. Mass food growing initiative to relaim our independance and remove ALL harmful additives, chemicals, GM and Clone, get antigravitic spacecraft and do away with roads and start dismantling cities, free the energy lines, do away with 'cables', make water distribution 'local' etc. etc. Don't forget these criminals have vast amounts of our's and our ancestor's wealth, which when reclaimed, can be utilised for actual Good.

Now that's a start !

If your only worry is missing a mortgage payment and how you are going to cope you haven't grasped the issue. All this old crap in society has to go. You don't want to make a mortgage payment, you want to never have to make a mortgage payment.

People keep throwing the 'Utopian' label at me. Wake Up.... this is all possible, and easy. Nothing utopian 'dream' about it.

[lightgiver]

I agree with that one;):D

[talkingchimp]

Hi well you've all seen the film INDEPENDENCE DAY where the drunk pilot flies up into the ship & shouts-- I'MMM BAAACK!! well GANDHI is alive & kicking.Money the root of all evil. I understand how you feel I've been down that road, soon there will be a complete economic collapse world wide, which has been planned by the Banksers just like the 30s in the US. So when you get your wages withdraw it but leave a few £s,banks make huge profits from leading your money out & whats in it, you get alittle bit of interest (big deal) now sell all your clutter but keep the things which are important to your survival. TV can go it's only a brainwashing tool flashing lights, sound wave, that interfere with your brain. Tell you what-- DON'T WATCH TV FOR 2 WEEKS,then watch it again for a 4 hours or more, you'll see exactly what I'm talking about.Get a good book on survival, what you can eat from the wilds,a good camping shop stock some very good books. All we have is this computer no tv, ipod, radio, even the car is going. we are left now with just the basic needs for our survival & we feel so much better in our selves. So put your thinking caps on, We will have our INDEPENDENCE DAY.Is it against the law to strike what are they going to do about it???? turn our country into a prison camp, I think not, not when millions march on London to kick out this evil covernment, & have a new goverment elected by people who are known by there deeds & honesty. then post the bill of rights every where so people will know there rights every county should have its own ministers who work together for the people & no more secrets nothing shall be hidden from public view.We the people of the British Isles are the LAW. I rest my case for the time being. Peace & Love to you all. spirorb (gandhi)

most sense ive heard.

[matthew84]

Most commentators on the Daily Telegraph (yup, that's the DT) website have been calling today for a general strike to protest about the Government ploughing on with ratification of the Lisbon Treaty in defiance of the democratic no vote in the Republic of Ireland.

That is the Daily Telegraph, folks! People are ready to start marching/striking/non compliance in mass numbers.

Timing is important because Lisbon will be ratified by Jan 2009.

As other posters have commented, there is a clause in Lisbon which makes the death penalty legal for acts of civil disobedience.

I think the banking system is set to collapse sometime soon anyway. I don't believe deposits are currently safe in UK banks anymore. If they do go down, the Government doesn't have the cash to protect all the deposits it currently claims to be able to protect.

If the tired old DT readers are ready to propose radical action it must say something about the mindset of the average Briton at the moment.

[h2pogo]

[QUOTE=matthew84;387343]Most commentators on the Daily Telegraph (yup, that's the DT) website have been calling today for a general strike to protest about the Government ploughing on with ratification of the Lisbon Treaty in defiance of the democratic no vote in the Republic of Ireland.

That is the Daily Telegraph, folks! People are ready to start marching/striking/non compliance in mass numbers.

Timing is important because Lisbon will be ratified by Jan 2009.

As other posters have commented, there is a clause in Lisbon which makes the death penalty legal for acts of civil disobedience.

I think the banking system is set to collapse sometime soon anyway. I don't believe deposits are currently safe in UK banks anymore. If they do go down, the Government doesn't have the cash to protect all the deposits it currently claims to be able to protect.

If the tired old DT readers are ready to propose radical action it must say something about the mindset of the average Briton at the moment.[/QUOT

the time to unite and do some thing is right now.
people are nearly half awake, even telegraph readers.

[stickwhistler]

As other posters have commented, there is a clause in Lisbon which makes the death penalty legal for acts of civil disobedience.



Would somebody point this clause out please?

I can't find it! Other than the below.

The below is bad enough because a cop can kill you if you resist arrest - clause 2. - as we all know.
No police employee (or indeed a prison officer) has ever been found guilty of murder when acting 'on duty'.
YOU bump into/touch one though, and its assaulting a police or prison officer!

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1998/ukpga_19980042_en_3#sch1
SCHEDULE 1

The Articles

Part I

The Convention

Rights and Freedoms

Article 2

Right to life

1 Everyone’s right to life shall be protected by law.
No one shall be deprived of his life intentionally save in the execution of a sentence of a court following his conviction of a crime for which this penalty is provided by law.

2 Deprivation of life shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of this Article when it results from the use of force which is no more than absolutely necessary:
(a) in defence of any person from unlawful violence;
(b) in order to effect a lawful arrest or to prevent the escape of a person lawfully detained;
(c) in action lawfully taken for the purpose of quelling a riot or insurrection.

[scott_1975]

Bringing things to a standstill is only useful if we then march in and actually arrest/get the ringleaders. It's the latter part that matters.

Hi Cruse,

For what it's worth I completely agree with you.

However, when you think that those that we consider to be the 'ringleaders' are being controlled by other people higher up the chain, the chances of actually getting to these people is slim to none. :(

[cruise4]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=27901&highlight=death+penalty

The thread is called UN Human Rights but I misread it and posted a few articles and posts about the EU death penalty and the relevant clauses. What you need to keep in mind is we are at war now. When are we not at war somewhere, somehow? And once the EU is fully formed we will always be at war I predict. So all the clasues that supposedly only come into play in unusual circumstances are, in fact, always in force.

[cruise4]

"However, when you think that those that we consider to be the 'ringleaders' are being controlled by other people higher up the chain, the chances of actually getting to these people is slim to none."

I would be positive of getting any higher ups if government got taken. They'd all start squealing like little pigs.

However if you mean higher entities, then its a different story as I have no idea what we are ultimately dealing with.

But its got to be a step in the right direction. I've got to get un-tied before I can get out the sack and then deal with the cell and finally escape the prison.

One step at a time.

[h2pogo]

a democratic government free of secret sosciety that controll the money should fuck up those at the top.

[lizzy]

After Thatcher's axing of the unions and the brainwashing of the last 25 yrs , Britains' lost it's sense of solidarity, but I hope I am wrong cus a general strike is about the only thing left to fight them with. Passive Resistance .

yup, had anyone "taken out" the Bilderbergers last weekend, there would have been another 125 in their seats in a mili sec.

Everything we know hurts me to know it, that we have free energy, all the world could ever need and held from us ,is their biggest crime of all.

[makeithappen]

Would somebody point this clause out please?

I can't find it! Other than the below.

The below is bad enough because a cop can kill you if you resist arrest - clause 2. - as we all know.
No police employee (or indeed a prison officer) has ever been found guilty of murder when acting 'on duty'.
YOU bump into/touch one though, and its assaulting a police or prison officer!

http://www.opsi.gov.uk/ACTS/acts1998/ukpga_19980042_en_3#sch1
SCHEDULE 1

The Articles

Part I

The Convention

Rights and Freedoms

Article 2

Right to life

1 Everyone’s right to life shall be protected by law.
No one shall be deprived of his life intentionally save in the execution of a sentence of a court following his conviction of a crime for which this penalty is provided by law.

2 Deprivation of life shall not be regarded as inflicted in contravention of this Article when it results from the use of force which is no more than absolutely necessary:
(a) in defence of any person from unlawful violence;
(b) in order to effect a lawful arrest or to prevent the escape of a person lawfully detained;
(c) in action lawfully taken for the purpose of quelling a riot or insurrection.


You will find the answer at the bottom of the page. I wrote to my MP the other week about this, and he sent in on to Rt Hon Jim Murphy MP, Minister of State. When I read this Article it means to me, that the government have given it's self the power to use the death penalty under "Imminent threat of war". This is my interpretation of this and is no doubt wrong, never the less, WTF is it doing on the status books??!!??

Article 2

Death penalty in time of war

A State may make provision in its law for the death penalty in respect of acts committed in time of war or of imminent threat of war; such penalty shall be applied only in the instances laid down in the law and in accordance with its provisions. The State shall communicate to the Secretary General of the Council of Europe the relevant provisions of that law.