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thelucifer
18-02-2008, 10:33 PM
As many know Masonic symbols are layed out in the design of Washington DC i.e. the upside down 5 pointed star that points to the White House, the Compus with horns on it and the Square as arms of the beast but no one ever shows the UPSIDE DOWN CROSS (as you face East) with beast (Satan) atop the cross with a 6 pointed star on its head so I took a map and highlighted these things and more.

http://s228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/?action+view&current=img1.jpg

There is a Pendulum that is in swing, to its left.
Union Station is the Right hand note the little left hand (left is lame).

Ancient Rome was the Satan of that time, Rome fell at the end of the 5th century hence the "deadly wound".
The Pilgrims came to this land in the 17th century (1620) to set up the "New Jerusalem" (the one that comes down out of heaven, meaning planned) America, the Revived Roman Empire (revived = wound healed).
Satan was "bound" a thousand years (6th - 16th centuries) and was loosed for a short season as of 1776 and the world has wondered after the beast, the greatest nation on gods green earth.

The Flag is the "image " of the beast.

This beast is Satan the Antichrist.
The temptation story Satan is on a "hill", that hill in reality is Capital Hill (where the head of the beast is), capitalize by bowing to the beast Satan.

The "False Prophet", a man known only as The Professor did work with George Washington, Ben and others in 1775 setting up the flag/image of the first beast America.
The "great day of the lord " soon followed on May 19, 1780.
I quote from a book Prince Of Darkness p. 331 by Grant R. Jefferey. Grant used this story in his book to proudly boast of a brave and wise christian amongst fearful dummies all the while missing the extreme importance of the story (because truth is not with him), now THATS like a tief in the night.

On May 19, 1780 the sky across the United States was illuminated with meteor showers unlike those ever seen before. By 10:00 A.M. the next morning the sky became black as night and the moon turned blood red. In the State Legislature of Massachusetts panic set in among the distressed representatives. Some fearful members called for a motion to adjorn the hearings in the light of the possible return of the Lord. However, one of the wiser Christians legislators replied, "Gentlemen, bring candles. If it is not the Day of Judgement we should continue our deliberations. However, if it is the Day of Judgement we should be found at our post. Gentlmen...To buisness!"

The "mark" of the beast is
1. the Great Seal (the Eye in the capstone) hence SEALED.
2. the bar code 6-6-6

The eye is deity and the capstone represents this deity being the Chief Cornerstone.

A woman rides (rides = guides) the beast, a likeness of her stands in New York, she is Lady Liberty/Ishtar.
7 spikes on her crown =
7 continents
7th and final beast empire
spiritual completeness, this is where it all comes down.

She is the greatest idol in the history of the world.

The "synagogue of satan" is DC.
A group of people that call themselves Jews but are not.

The "mark" in the right hand =
1. fight for
2. work for

The "mark" in the forehead =
1. think for (minions)
2. think with (patriots), proud to be American.
Pride does go before the fall.

Satan is set up in the holy place, in otherwords, as the Chief Cornerstone.

Darkness was/is apon the face of the deep !!!

marpat
22-02-2008, 12:46 PM
I think you are getting confused here. The beast has 7 heads and 10 horns, not 7 horns.

666 is the number of a man if you read revelations, so technically it could be every adult male.

The book is actually about John achieving complete sprirital development in which he observes the forces of his own unconscious being overcome by his oversoul. As each of the seven seals is opened he sees a corresponding evil to be overcome. Each seal is one level of heaven.

It is not a book showing the end of the world and that is why the prophecies never happen because it is an event thats occurs withing each soul.

lizzy
22-02-2008, 09:12 PM
By Henry Makow Ph.D.

A Chicago-area scholar, Christopher Jon Bjerknes, 42, thinks he knows what plagues mankind and believes his knowledge is necessary to stop Armageddon.

He says a heretical cult, the "Shabataian Frankists," controls organized Jewry, including Zionism and Freemasonry. They began as followers of Shabatai Zvi (1626-1676) and later Jacob Frank (1726-1791.) They believe Shabatai was the Messiah (God) and his soul has transmigrated down to the Rothschild dynasty, who are now the "king of the Jews."

According to their messianic system, Redemption requires that the Rothschilds become God, i.e. king of the world. This will see the sacrifice of 2/3 of all Jews and the destruction and enslavement of the rest of mankind. Bjerknes believes this demented creed actually is the motive force behind history, including all wars, and "world government."

Bjerknes (B-YERK-NES) is proud of his Norwegian Jewish heritage, ( maternal grandfather, a famous musician, was Jewish.) He has written two massive books-- one about Albert Einstein as a plagiarist, and another about the Shabataian inspired Armenian Genocide -- that include hundreds of pages of suppressed Jewish history. They can be found as PDFs at his web site http://www.jewishracism.com/

I think he exaggerates the importance of Jewish messianism but I may be wrong. His message is compelling and consistent with the Protocols of Zion where the author (whom I believe is Lionel Rothschild) talks about coming into his "kingdom."

The Shabataians believe their king is duty bound to restore the Jews to Israel and exterminate the Gentiles. They believe the Messiah won’t appear until the world succumbs to evil and are determined to make this prophecy self-fulfilling. Thus evil is good. In Bjerknes' view, this constitutes a "Jewish war against humanity." When Bjerknes refers to Jewish, he means "Shabataian."

The Shabataians are often sexual degenerates who engage in wife swapping, orgies and incest. They often pretend to be Christians or Moslems to worm their way into Gentile society in order to destroy it. (Jewish Genocide of Armenian Christians, pp.64-65.)

Bjerknes cites Deuteronomy as an example of this Jewish supremacism: "the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth. " (7-16) "And all people of the earth shall see that thou art called by the name of the LORD; and they shall be afraid of you." (28:10)

He points to Zachariah [13;8-9] as evidence that Jews will be slaughtered: "And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith the LORD, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein."

[9] "And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried: they shall call on my name, and I will hear them: I will say, It is my people: and they shall say, The LORD is my God." (He also cites Ezekiel 5:12-13 to this effect.)

On pp. 43-46 of Jewish Genocide, Bjerknes cites references from the Talmud and the Old Testament to the plan to exterminate and enslave Gentiles.

For example ,Genesis 25;23, and 27;38-41 promises the Gentiles to the Jews as their slaves and slave soldiers, and gives an incentive to exterminate the Gentiles simply because they dare resent their fate.


ROTHSCHILDS FOLLOW BIBLICAL BLUEPRINT

At the beginning of the 19th century the Rothschilds started campaigning to return the Jews to Israel, purchasing land there and scheming to breakup the Ottoman Empire. They later bought the Suez Canal to project their power into the Middle East. Bjerknes writes:

"The ruin of the Turkish Empire and the mass murder of the Armenian Christians were one step on the long and tumultuous Jewish march toward the death of mankind. The ruin of the Russian empire was another, followed by the repeated destruction of Europe, particularly Germany in the World Wars this Jewish cult created in an attempt to artificially fulfill Messianic prophecy and force the Jews of Europe against their will to flee to Palestine." (66)

According to Bjerknes, Jewish support was the only thing lacking in the the Rothschilds' plan to establish a world government in Jerusalem, with them as king:

"They could bankrupt Egypt and Turkey. They could bring Russia to ruins. They could buy Jewish ne'er-do-wells. They could even buy the Pope but the only way to force Jews in large numbers to Palestine was to put Hitler and Stalin in power and persecute Jews on a massive and unprecedented scale." (291)


CHRISTIANS ARE BEING DUPED


Bjerknes has a poignant warning to Christians:

"In the Jewish dominated media of today, we find many Jews preaching to the public that the end times are coming and that Christians ought to view their own destruction in a positive light as if it were the divine fulfillment of Christian and Jewish prophecy. Many Christians have been duped by these charlatan...the destruction of the world and its nations is occurring as the result of the deliberate intervention of immensely wealthy Jews and not as the result of God's will. These Jewish leaders view the Hebrew Bible as a plan, which they are deliberately fulfilling.... (327)


WHERE BJERKNES AND I DIFFER


As my readers know I see the New World Order as an elite conspiracy driven primarily by the central bankers' desire to consolidate their monopoly on credit and power. I believe there is a strong "Jewish" element but that they have co-opted all gentile elites using intermarriage, Freemasonry (run by the Illuminati), and Aryanism. Look at the Gentile membership of the Illuminati Skull and Bones for example. Bjerknes doesn't think the Illuminati is still in business and downplays the Gentile role.

In an email, Bjerknes writes that intermarriage is part of the "Jewish" strategy:

"I believe that powerful Jewish interests have been deliberately attempting to fulfill Jewish messianic prophecy for 2,500 years and have duped many Gentiles into helping them obtain their objectives. They have also recruited many Gentiles through intermarriage, friendship and selfish interests, who are not dupes, but commit inhuman acts out of greed, vanity, or for other immoral reasons. Do they believe that what they are doing is evil? I suspect some do.

I am not opposed to identifying secret societies and the ties among the elite. I simply do not see any justification for calling them Illuminati. As for the overall path of politics and the faces of those who are pushing the cart toward WW III, I think I and countless others have proven that it is a Jewish movement, and that the Illuminati were nothing but a small part of this Jewish movement to gin up an apocalypse, which dates back at least 2,500 years. Of course not everything happening today has a Jewish hand steering its course. But I do believe that powerful Jewish interests ...have the ability to exert more influence than all other groups combined, for the very reason that they have infiltrated so many organizations, religions and governments, and have such disproportionate influence in the media."


CONCLUSION

I wouldn’t be presenting this material if I didn’t think it important to examine Jewish messianism. If world events indeed are driven by the Rothschild's megalomania propped up by Shabataian ,Old Testament and Talmudic fanaticism, I think Jews and non-Jews alike would want to know, and take exception.

Certainly the role of Jewish Rothschild agents in advocating for the Iraq war and an attack on Iran is consistent with the profile above.

If Bjerknes is right, "anti-Semitism" is exposed as psychological warfare designed to disarm opposition to an insidious agenda by portraying this opposition as racist. It is also used to manipulate Jews who have been opposed to the Rothschild's insane agenda, and victims of it.
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Related: Hitler Used Rothschild Banker's Typewriter for "Mein Kampf"

thelucifer
23-03-2008, 02:02 PM
I think you are getting confused here. The beast has 7 heads and 10 horns, not 7 horns.

666 is the number of a man if you read revelations, so technically it could be every adult male.


Not to be rude, negative etc, I didnt make mention of the beast (in regards to its 7 heads and 10 horns) but the woman and the 7 spikes on her crown, which are different than the 7 heads.


666 is the number of two things,
1. a political entity (the DC beast is set up as Male)
2. a man, in which I know much, intimately.

The political entity is the Satan/DC beast, it is set up as the Christ/Lucifer but is not a bringer of light but darkness.
The man, is not the same as the Satan, they are two different entities, the Satan is set up as though to take the mans birthrite.
People err to think the Satan and the Lucifer are one and the same, theyre not.

Ancient Rome was the Satan of that time.
Jesus is made to call himself the Lucifer, the two are in opposition !!!


The writer of Revelation thought the end of the age/world was then, in his very time.
"Jesus" is credited as being the revelator to John which means of course that Jesus, accordingly, is the one that is in error as to the end being then.
The problem is big and clear.



Thanks lizzy for the info in your post.
Whats going on is of ancient origin.

thelucifer
26-03-2008, 08:09 PM
Meet Satan, the Masonic Washington DC beast.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/img1E.jpg


The blue line from the Capital to the Lincoln memorial is angled, its a Pendulum, in swing to its left, meaning Communist.
The Marine barricks for Camp Coronodo is 4 buildings in the shape of a Swastika.

Its right hand is Union Station.
Note the little left hand, the Power Station for the Capital bldg.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/img2.jpg


1818 map
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/img4.jpg

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/img3.jpg

octopusrex
27-03-2008, 04:16 AM
I think you are getting confused here. The beast has 7 heads and 10 horns, not 7 horns.

666 is the number of a man if you read revelations, so technically it could be every adult male.

The book is actually about John achieving complete sprirital development in which he observes the forces of his own unconscious being overcome by his oversoul. As each of the seven seals is opened he sees a corresponding evil to be overcome. Each seal is one level of heaven.

It is not a book showing the end of the world and that is why the prophecies never happen because it is an event thats occurs withing each soul.

More and more, I begin to realize this.

thelucifer
14-04-2008, 12:29 AM
Masonic writer Manly Hall writes:

"The Pentagram is used extensively in black magic, but when so used its form always differs in one of three ways: The star may be broken at one point by not permitting the converging lines to touch; it may be inverted by having one point down and two up; or it may be distorted by having two points of varying lengths. When used in black magic, the pentagram is called the "sign of the cloven hoof" or the "footprint of the devil".




The inverted (broken) 5 pointed (black magic) star points to the White House !!!

As Manly Hall states in regards to the 5 pointed star, it is called the Devil’s footprint.

The White House IS Satan’s Right foot.

Right is a symbol of power, i.e. the left foot is not the power foot, the right foot is the power foot, hence the White House, the Devil's footprint/cloven hoof.

thelucifer
07-05-2008, 11:09 PM
"The flame of intelligence shining between his [Baphomet] horns is the magic light of the universal balance, the image of the soul elevated above matter, as the flame, whilst being tied to matter, shines above it."
Eliphas Levi.
http://www.templarhistory.com/levi.html



above matter = walking on water !!!


The Supreme Mother Scottish Rite Temple 13 blocks north of the White House IS the shining flame of intelligence.

Looking at the map facing north, is the inverted pentagram that points to the White House, imagine/understand a candle on the star (Baphomet), the flame is where the Supreme Mother SR Temple IS, 13 blocks north of the White House.








Masonic writer Manly Hall writes:

"The Pentagram is used extensively in black magic, but when so used its form always differs in one of three ways: The star may be broken at one point by not permitting the converging lines to touch; it may be inverted by having one point down and two up; or it may be distorted by having two points of varying lengths. When used in black magic, the pentagram is called the "sign of the cloven hoof" or the "footprint of the devil".







If you draw a pentagram (single point up) made of 5 equal lines, hold the piece of paper in front of you, tilt the left side up a little and then turn it clockwise some, so you can still see the star (the left side going back/away from you).
The optical illusion distorts the 5 equal lines, the farthest away (the left side) looking smaller than the closer right side.



The inverted pentagram that points to the White House is of equal lines but it is tilted and turned (using the map with East up).

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/img1Ea.jpg

It is inverted via distortion/illusion/magic, by the star (single point up) being tilted and turned (as seen with the map east up), and then by viewing the star with the map North up.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/img1Eb.jpg

Once you look at the map with east up and understanding the star being tilted back, you will be able to see the star of equal lines.


In the story of the Inquisition of the Knights Templar is confessions of symbology via a head of Baphomet, which is what the inverted broken distorted (ALL 3 Black magic traits in one) pentagram that points (touches) to the White House IS, its just the head, no body.

1. broken

2. inverted

3. distorted






Clausen’s Commentaries on Morals and Dogma

Page 54
"Our colonial Masons…They molded and riveted down Masonic concepts and a Masonic organizational pattern into our Declaration of Independence, the Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights. Actually, therefore, they created what I call “Masonic-minded Americanism.” The very term “Americanism” was coined by one of these patriots, John Witherspoon, one of the Masons who signed the Declaration of Independence."




"molded and riveted down Masonic concepts" !!!
Henry is speaking of the Masonic design and layout (via bldgs and streets etc) of DC.

mystiq_99
19-05-2008, 01:39 AM
Brilliant research!

thewaycreates
19-05-2008, 03:10 PM
so what specifically does the broken pentagram mean?
why did they chose to have it broken and not a complete pentagram, just so people could deny that its actually a pentagram and just a coincedence?

marpat
19-05-2008, 07:33 PM
Brilliant research!

It's not brilliant research. How many people use revelations to try and explain what is going on in the world. Maybe a few numerical patterns fit at times but the complete symbolism does not. The book of revelation is full of symbolism that needs the correct approach. There is a key to that symbolism that is well know but has not been used in this analysis. And are the maps provided not actually in some of Davids Ickes books? I do recall seeing maps like that in his books, so it's not really original at all.

Perhaps you can tell me what the woman clothed with the sun is and what the child represents. Perhaps you can tell me what the breaking of the seven seal actually means. If they are external events then it should be clear.

eternal_spirit
19-05-2008, 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mystiq_99 http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=361591#post361591)
Brilliant research!
.................
Yes total proof and evidence that Masons leave their signatures all over Citys. They're obssessed with sacred geometry, symbolism, numerology etc etc yawn.... divide and rule...

marpat
19-05-2008, 08:29 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mystiq_99 http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=361591#post361591)
Brilliant research!
.................
Yes total proof and evidence that Masons leave their signatures all over Citys. They're obssessed with sacred geometry, symbolism, numerology etc etc yawn.... divide and rule...


We can always count on you to give an impartial opinion on subjects like this

thelucifer
20-05-2008, 12:19 AM
It's not brilliant research. How many people use revelations to try and explain what is going on in the world. Maybe a few numerical patterns fit at times but the complete symbolism does not. The book of revelation is full of symbolism that needs the correct approach. There is a key to that symbolism that is well know but has not been used in this analysis. And are the maps provided not actually in some of Davids Ickes books? I do recall seeing maps like that in his books, so it's not really original at all.

Perhaps you can tell me what the woman clothed with the sun is and what the child represents. Perhaps you can tell me what the breaking of the seven seal actually means. If they are external events then it should be clear.



Where have you seen the upside down cross before ?

Where have you seen the Pendulum before ?

Where have you seen Capital Hill being shown as the "hill" that Satan is on, in the temptation story ?

I have presented loads of stuff via my own research/findings.
Better said, GOD has shown me lots of stuff.


The "woman" cloathed with the sun (as a Christian Nation) is the Statue of Liberty (Ishtar) and that sun is the DC beast Satan/Horus/antichrist/Freemasonry.
The woman who rides the beast.

The "great earthquake" in the sixth seal (Rev 6:12) was the signing of the Declaration of Independence, some earth shaking stuff.
The great day of the lord (blood red moon etc) all happened May 19-20, 1780.

The "false prophet" is a man known only as the "Professor", who worked with Geaorge Washington, Ben Franklin and others (in 1775) in making the "image of the beast" (the American Flag) literally.

Perhaps you might show where else that has been shown ?


Where have you seen it mentioned Satan being bound a thousand years (6th - 16th centuries), released for a short season as of 1776 ?

The "wound healed" (as of 1776) = the REVIVED Roman Empire ?


It is very easy for me to go into the book and show this is that.


I could go on and on and on.

eternal_spirit
20-05-2008, 12:29 AM
We can always count on you to give an impartial opinion on subjects like this

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Depends on which sources and authors you use to shape and help form an opinion, some of us truthers choose authors who are also truthers, Icke, Watt etc.
Nice to see you put a pic of yourself in your avatar.:eek:

marpat
20-05-2008, 09:15 PM
Where have you seen the upside down cross before ?

Where have you seen the Pendulum before ?

Where have you seen Capital Hill being shown as the "hill" that Satan is on, in the temptation story ?

I have presented loads of stuff via my own research/findings.
Better said, GOD has shown me lots of stuff.


The "woman" cloathed with the sun (as a Christian Nation) is the Statue of Liberty (Ishtar) and that sun is the DC beast Satan/Horus/antichrist/Freemasonry.
The woman who rides the beast.

The "great earthquake" in the sixth seal (Rev 6:12) was the signing of the Declaration of Independence, some earth shaking stuff.
The great day of the lord (blood red moon etc) all happened May 19-20, 1780.

The "false prophet" is a man known only as the "Professor", who worked with Geaorge Washington, Ben Franklin and others (in 1775) in making the "image of the beast" (the American Flag) literally.

Perhaps you might show where else that has been shown ?


Where have you seen it mentioned Satan being bound a thousand years (6th - 16th centuries), released for a short season as of 1776 ?

The "wound healed" (as of 1776) = the REVIVED Roman Empire ?


It is very easy for me to go into the book and show this is that.


I could go on and on and on.

Rubbish. You are just grasping at straws here. You are trying to associate ideas from history with revelations in order to try and prove some future conspiracy.

Now if the bible was written by the illuminati then why would they even write it down in a book that anybody could read, with the possibility that their secrets may be uncovered? why did they not just keep such knowledge within their closed ranks, passed between elite families only so that the secrets never get out?

I know what they keys are for this book.

Horus is not even remotely like satan. How the fuck could you come up with that. I could live with it if you said Set was but Horus, the god of light. Bad job.

Things like earthquakes and lunar eclipses have happened thousands of time since the book was written so who is to say which is the correct one. If I was to say what it meant in outer world terms I would have said the fall on the Roman empire, which was the main power of oppression and occupation during that period.

thelucifer
20-05-2008, 11:01 PM
Rubbish. You are just grasping at straws here. You are trying to associate ideas from history with revelations in order to try and prove some future conspiracy.

Grasping at straws !
Uh...no.
Future !
Again, no.
The short season (that Satan is released) is almost over, hence past and present, not future.


Now if the bible was written by the illuminati then why would they even write it down in a book that anybody could read, with the possibility that their secrets may be uncovered? why did they not just keep such knowledge within their closed ranks, passed between elite families only so that the secrets never get out?

The Bible is from the older mystery religions with a different face.
As Paul the apostle said, there are 3 levels of understanding in the book and I submit there is a fourth, a blue print for the adepts.
Get out !
Hidden in plain sight is the game.

I know what they keys are for this book.

Do tell.

Horus is not even remotely like satan. How the fuck could you come up with that. I could live with it if you said Set was but Horus, the god of light. Bad job.

Set, Ahriman etc, yes.

To the folks who set up Satan its not bad but good, hence the likeness of Horus.
Satan/Antichrist is set up to take the place of the Christ.

It would seem you dont understand the rising and setting suns are ONE.

Things like earthquakes and lunar eclipses have happened thousands of time since the book was written so who is to say which is the correct one. If I was to say what it meant in outer world terms I would have said the fall on the Roman empire, which was the main power of oppression and occupation during that period.

Ancient Rome was the Satan of that time.
Rome fell (the deadly wound) at the end of the 5th century and was bound for a thousand years, 6th through 16th centuries.
The Pilgrims came to this land in the 17th century (1620 is the year celebrated) to set up the New Jerusalem/New Atlantis/New Horizon (hence Horus) thus Satan being released for a short season as of 1776, the REVIVED (wound healed) Roman Empire.
The "earthquake" of Rev. 6:12 is not a literal earthquake but is symbolic of an earth shaking event, the signing of the Declaration of Independence, for what was to become the Super Power of the world.
People follow after the beast (America), the "greatest nation on Gods green earth", as the saying goes.
I ask, greatest in what way , good or bad ??
Perhaps all the wars might help you understand the answer.

Would you like me to continue ?
I could make this post very long.

I tried to lay much out in short fashion in the begining of this thread, I have only but scratched the surface.

marpat
21-05-2008, 04:54 PM
Read the book of Job and see how Satan fits in with Gods plan. He even asks God to remove his protection from Job so that he can be tested.

amethyst
21-05-2008, 05:47 PM
It's not brilliant research. How many people use revelations to try and explain what is going on in the world. Maybe a few numerical patterns fit at times but the complete symbolism does not. The book of revelation is full of symbolism that needs the correct approach. There is a key to that symbolism that is well know but has not been used in this analysis. And are the maps provided not actually in some of Davids Ickes books? I do recall seeing maps like that in his books, so it's not really original at all.

Perhaps you can tell me what the woman clothed with the sun is and what the child represents. Perhaps you can tell me what the breaking of the seven seal actually means. If they are external events then it should be clear.

The book of Revelation is symbolic and prophetic....meaning, a lot written in it hasn't happened YET. But will soon. But God prophetically showed many of the prophets what would happen in the future...which will play out on the world stage shortly.

A lot of the book of Daniel talks of similar things that are mentioned in the book of Revelation.

thirdwave
21-05-2008, 05:59 PM
Set, Ahriman etc, yes.

To the folks who set up Satan its not bad but good, hence the likeness of Horus.
Satan/Antichrist is set up to take the place of the Christ.

It would seem you dont understand the rising and setting suns are ONE.

Satan is basically a name for any power which does not compliment the bible.

So you could call Horus Satan.. Set Satan... Thoth Satan.... and so on... but before Christianity, Satan did not even exsist. and there was good people that did exsist.

Even people in the truth movement who know full well that Christianity is apart of the conspiracy (just like every other religion), they still base much of there outlooks on the christian creations... I think most of the time its un knowingly as we have grown up within it.

I also think the PTB do not want people to understand and know about the occult power, because they want it all for them selves...and the beings they do business with want the same.

eternal_spirit
21-05-2008, 06:13 PM
Satan is basically a name for any power which does not compliment the bible.

So you could call Horus Satan.. Set Satan... Thoth Satan.... and so on... but before Christianity, Satan did not even exsist. and there was good people that did exsist.

Even people in the truth movement who know full well that Christianity is apart of the conspiracy (just like every other religion), they still base much of there outlooks on the christian creations... I think most of the time its un knowingly as we have grown up within it.

I also think the PTB do not want people to understand and know about the occult power, because they want it all for them selves...and the beings they do business with want the same.

...........................

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bi...stsecret15.htm (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret15.htm)
read more here^^^

Icke on Satanism from The Bigget Secret

CHAPTER FIFTEEN Satan’s children

The black magic rituals we know as Satanism are the modern expression of the rituals and human sacrifice in ancient Babylon and the Brotherhood infiltrated societies of the Sumerian, Phoenician, Hittite, Egyptian, Canaanite and Akkadian peoples, among many others across the world. It has been a seamless procession through history of the same rituals to the same deities and this remains of fundamental importance to the initiates of the Brotherhood today.

My use of the term Satanism has nothing to do with the Christian version of Satan. I use it only to describe a system of ritual sacrifice and torture which, staggering as it may seem to most people, is commonplace all over the world today. Satanism is just another name for the worship of a highly destructive, negative force which has been given endless names over the centuries: Nimrod, Baal, Moloch or Molech, Set, the Devil, Lucifer, there is no end to them.
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amethyst
21-05-2008, 06:14 PM
So you could call Horus Satan.. Set Satan... Thoth Satan.... and so on... but before Christianity, Satan did not even exsist. and there was good people that did exsist.

You know I am going to disagree AND agree with you TW ;)

I think good people did exist and I think satan did also exist before Christianity...

I think Satan was originally created good, as he was the most beautiful, highly ranked angel under the Creator.. But pride got the best of him cuz he wanted to be just like the Creator God and so rebelled...that's how he became wicked.....and caused the other powers, the nephillim (fallen angels-the one's who rebelled....... Satan influenced them to rebel -and all the various ranks) to rebell also, before mankind was even formed.

marpat
21-05-2008, 09:09 PM
Satan is basically a name for any power which does not compliment the bible.

So you could call Horus Satan.. Set Satan... Thoth Satan.... and so on... but before Christianity, Satan did not even exsist. and there was good people that did exsist.

Even people in the truth movement who know full well that Christianity is apart of the conspiracy (just like every other religion), they still base much of there outlooks on the christian creations... I think most of the time its un knowingly as we have grown up within it.

I also think the PTB do not want people to understand and know about the occult power, because they want it all for them selves...and the beings they do business with want the same.

Are you sure about that? I do not know when the various books of the bible were wrote but I thought that Job wwas written before the New Tetsament. Satan is mentioned in job where the sons of god gather tpgether and he is among them. I think that book really shows another view on the whole Satan role.

amethyst
22-05-2008, 05:28 PM
Are you sure about that? I do not know when the various books of the bible were wrote but I thought that Job wwas written before the New Tetsament. Satan is mentioned in job where the sons of god gather tpgether and he is among them. I think that book really shows another view on the whole Satan role.

The "sons of god" was a overall name for angelic principalities (rulers) aka: angels. That's why the "nephillim" in Genesis were called "sons of god" also.

thirdwave
22-05-2008, 06:49 PM
Are you sure about that? I do not know when the various books of the bible were wrote but I thought that Job wwas written before the New Tetsament. Satan is mentioned in job where the sons of god gather tpgether and he is among them. I think that book really shows another view on the whole Satan role.

Is it Satan.?

My point is the character the Christians have used.... anyone who is not of their faith is satan which is meant to be evil...

there are books where Satan...Lucifer or who ever, who actually worked for god and was not his enemy.

so I would imagine in Job he is most defiantly not the enemy of god. and that's if it is the word "satan" ...never read it.

"Satan" as the enemy of God is a christian creation.

marpat
22-05-2008, 10:36 PM
Is it Satan.?

My point is the character the Christians have used.... anyone who is not of their faith is satan which is meant to be evil...

there are books where Satan...Lucifer or who ever, who actually worked for god and was not his enemy.

so I would imagine in Job he is most defiantly not the enemy of god. and that's if it is the word "satan" ...never read it.

"Satan" as the enemy of God is a christian creation.

Agreed when it is explained in that context. The gods of one religion become the devils on the next. In the book of Job the name Satan is used.

eternal_spirit
23-05-2008, 01:32 AM
Is it Satan.?

My point is the character the Christians have used.... anyone who is not of their faith is satan which is meant to be evil...

there are books where Satan...Lucifer or who ever, who actually worked for god and was not his enemy.

so I would imagine in Job he is most defiantly not the enemy of god. and that's if it is the word "satan" ...never read it.

"Satan" as the enemy of God is a christian creation.
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Here read this anti-christ

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=364331&postcount=21

marpat
23-05-2008, 10:57 PM
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Here read this anti-christ

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=364331&postcount=21


Why read your biased work. People have their own ideas and concepts on the subject. We do not need to bend our thoughts to your way of thinking.

thelucifer
27-05-2008, 12:38 AM
The Phoenix was the original national bird for America, and was used as such until 1841.
Why the Phoenix ?
The Phoenix represents rebirth/resurrection.
Why use a symbol of rebirth ?
Because it’s the rebirth/resurrection of the Roman Empire, hence the Revived Roman Empire.
Rebirth = Revived.
The DC beast is Satan, Set etc (the thing has many names).
Satan was bound (deadly wound) for a thousand years and was resurrected/revived (wound healed) as of 1776.
Satan and Antichrist (anti = instead of) are one and the same because Satan is set up to take the place (birthright) of the Christ/Lucifer..


The Phoenix also represents death, hence the deadly wound of Satan, death of the old Roman Empire.

thelucifer
27-05-2008, 04:05 AM
It is written the “Antichrist” has no regard for woman.

The Bible thumpers say this means he dosent marry, or that he is gay.

Both those explanations are ridiculous, at best.

As I have put forth in other posts etc, the Masonic DC beast is Satan/Antichrist.
No regard for woman = male ONLY club.

The same male chauvinist wickedness that has been going on for eons.

thirdwave
27-05-2008, 11:10 AM
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Here read this anti-christ

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=364331&postcount=21

Yes, no need to spam it again... I read it before you posted it the first time and it has no relevance to my comments here.

thirdwave
27-05-2008, 11:11 AM
Agreed when it is explained in that context. The gods of one religion become the devils on the next. In the book of Job the name Satan is used.

yeah, The Greek god Pan is another example....

esse
04-06-2008, 03:12 AM
Was seriously thinking all last week about the subversion of archetypes into Illuminati mind control - Looking at all these myths we have - from Religious Myths to ancient Greek etc, how many negatives are embedded in them! Like Lucifer - "The Light Bringer" (Prometheus) - God's most beautiful Angel, this seems to be an archetype for any being who emanates the light, like Buddha or Jesus - same archetype, yet in one myth - we get this archetype falling (due to pride and jealousy) and condemned to be the center of Evil - v. taboo... perhaps the unconscious programming here is don't try this at home kids, emanating the divine, remembering yr nature - it will lead to you becoming the very opposite of it - Evil incarnate... and so much suffering... Then there is the Christ myth - so much embedded in that one, the Messiah - there can be only one idea - as if we aren't all the sons and daughters of God... or the divine incarnated into the form world... Then there is the crucifixtion, so many myths of saints and holy people having great trials and martyr paths... if this is all unconscious mind control for us to take in - it's very effective!!! The very stories we grow up with, all so tragic, look at Shakespeare! Almost every story a tragedy, he sums up every archetype of falling there is I think, and this is another freemason writer we are made to read EVERY year in school... These guys certainly know how to get to people - under our skin like... This is what I've been thinking about.... Psyche and Eros - how Psyche is damned to trials for "looking at the face of a God" - which is not allowed (why? Aren't we all looking at this?) Icarus - Don't fly too high or you'll get burned... Old Indigenous myths don't seem to carry these messages... They strike me as quite life affirming - quite different in quality... Anyway, I'm running off at the keypad here... :)

thelucifer
18-06-2008, 04:47 AM
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/DVC00062.jpg



Interesting how something so small can be so big.

Not small in the physical sense, but in the metaphysical sense.

This plate helped me, nudged me, towards truth/reality in some big ways, as it has turned out.

The first time I saw this plate at an antique dealer I passed it up.
Later that day (in the evening) I realized what it was I saw on that plate.
I went to the antique shop in the morning and bought the plate.

It has the upright and inverted Pentagram incorporated into the outer design of the plate.
The inward points making the inverted star seem to be of primary focus for this plates symbology, of the two stars.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/62asmall.jpg



But the most important symbol on this plate is the Staff.
It is the DC beast, a symbol/statement that the thing was brought here via the “Pilgrims” in 1620.
The New (political) Horizon/Satan, as is seen today in DC.

The staff is in the layout/design of DC.
The head of the staff is the head of the DC beast with horns.

Here is a map of DC showing the staff.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/staff.jpg





Thanks Giving, giving thanks to what god ?

How did Nostradamus know this country would give thanks on a Thursday ?
Was it via magic ?, or knowledge of a plan via secret societies ?

The same plan where from comes the mentioning/knowledge of Satan in the Bible on the “hill“, Capital Hill in today’s real world..


The staff shows the DC beast Satan.
The Pilgrims/1620 show when Satan was brought to this continent.
The Pilgrims on this plate show what god the Thursday Thanks Giving is for.
The inverted pentagram is an image/symbol of the king Satan, the star of Bethlehem.

philidor
23-06-2008, 11:20 PM
Watch out for the Devil, he's gonna getcha! After he's done Darth Vaders going to get ya too!

thelucifer
03-07-2008, 09:46 PM
This shows when the horns were added to the dc beast.

http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee60/thelucifer_rp/hornsEw.jpg