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PROPHECY OUTLINED OVERVIEW - YouTube please coment

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That was very interesting, thanks.

The only problem I have though with the whole prophecy thing is that I believe it's been designed to make you feel hopeless to the whole process because it's already a done deal, nothing to do but wait and pray for Jesus to save you.

It's a form of predictive programming IMO..

[tiburontito]

That was very interesting, thanks.

The only problem I have though with the whole prophecy thing is that I believe it's been designed to make you feel hopeless to the whole process because it's already a done deal, nothing to do but wait and pray for Jesus to save you.

It's a form of predictive programming IMO..

nice answer:)

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It could be that, and it could be a method to choose between those who recognise the reality of personal reponsibility, and those that haven't got it yet.

Amazing. That a clip out of Alternative 3 vids. More syncronicity. Its everywhere!

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Nothing is firm, ever.

Everything is dynamic and interactive, so prophecies can never be a guarantee.

There is always another path.


Nifty:D

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apocalypticism is a literature genre which arrived after the prophetic writings, when the prophecies began to get obsolete because they never came true and thus they were never verified. prophecy and apocalyptic prophecy have differences which mostly have to do with the kind of message they want to convey and the way they do it.


Transition from prophecy to apocalyptic literature
Apocalyptic literature - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Apocalyptical elements (αποκαλυπτειν, to reveal something hidden) can be detected in the prophetical books of Joel and Zechariah, while Isaiah xxiv.-xxvii. and xxxiii. presents well-developed apocalypses. In the Book of Daniel we have a fully matured and classic example of this genre of literature.

The way, however, had in an especial degree been prepared for the apocalyptic type of thought and literature by Ezekiel, for with him the word of God had become identical with a written book (ii. 9-iii. 3) by the eating of which he learned the will of God, just as earlier writing conceived that the eating of the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden imparted spiritual understanding and self-consciousness. When the divine word is thus conceived as a written message, the sole office of the prophet is to communicate what has been written. Thus the human element is reduced, and the conception of prophecy becomes stenographic. And as the personal element disappears in the conception of the prophetic calling, so it tends to disappear in the prophetic view of history, and the future comes to be conceived not as the organic result of the present under the divine guidance, but as mechanically determined from the beginning in the counsels of God, and arranged under artificial categories of time. This is essentially the apocalyptic conception of history, and Ezekiel may be justly represented as in certain essential aspects its founder in Israel.

Jesus was an apocalyptic prophet. at least his words contained in the gospels are apocalyptic when he talks about the coming age of God, which would happen before their generation would end. in the context of Jesus' time, the term "age" didn't mean an astrological age as people believed several centuries later, but their own lives.

Apocalypse Then

If Jesus was wrong about the world ending 2,000 years ago, what does it mean to follow him today?
An interview with Bart D. Ehrman

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You see Jesus as an apocalyptic prophet. What did Jewish apocalyptic prophets believe?

Apocalyptic thinking began about 150 years before the birth of Jesus, and apocalypticists were Jews who thought that the world was not controlled by God, but by forces opposed to God. They believed these dominating evil forces were increasing in power, and that God would intervene to overthrow the evil empire and replace it with a good kingdom on earth. And they believed God was going to do this very soon.

How widespread was this thinking in Jesus’ day?

It was very prevalent among Jews in the first century, and it wasn’t restricted to just one group or party. For example, it appears that the Pharisees and the Essenes, who produced the Dead Sea scrolls, were apocalyptic in their understanding of the world. And then there were individuals, like John the Baptist and other prophets, who weren’t connected to any group and they were apocalyptic in their thinking.

Why were there so many apocalyptic Jews in the first century?

It was partly because Jews were being oppressed by foreign powers, and they felt helpless. They believed that God simply would not allow this evil domination to go on much longer. So this notion that the end is near and that the kingdom of God is coming soon wasn’t something Jesus came up with. He stood in a long line of apocalyptic thinkers.

How does he figure in this tradition?

Jesus began his public ministry by becoming a follower of John the Baptist, another Jewish apocalyptic prophet. From the sources that refer to John, we know he predicted the end was near. He said that “the ax is lying at the roots of the trees. Every tree that doesn’t bear good fruit will be chopped down and cast into the fire.” It’s a vivid image of judgment that awaits those who have sided with evil. And it’s an image of imminent judgment—the ax is already laid at the roots, meaning that the trees are ready to be chopped down now. By associating with John the Baptist, Jesus deliberately began his ministry on an apocalyptic note.

read more: http://www.somareview.com/apocalypsethen.cfm

what this guy in the video does and so many others as well (no need to name names, you know), is called presentism.

Presentism is a mode of historical analysis in which present-day ideas and perspectives are anachronistically introduced into depictions or interpretations of the past. Most modern historians seek to avoid presentism in their work because they believe it creates a distorted understanding of their subject matter.

The Oxford English Dictionary gives the first citation for presentism in its historiographic sense from 1916, and the word may have been in use in this meaning as early as the 1870s. Historian David Hackett Fischer identifies presentism as a logical fallacy also known as the "fallacy of nunc pro tunc". He has written that the "classic example" of presentism was the so-called "Whig history", in which certain eighteenth- and nineteenth-century British historians wrote history in a way that used the past to validate their own political beliefs. This interpretation was presentist because it did not depict the past in objective historical context, but instead viewed history only through the lens of contemporary Whig beliefs. In this kind of approach, which emphasizes the relevance of history to the present, things which do not seem relevant receive little attention, resulting in a misleading portrayal of the past. "Whig history" or "whiggishness" are often used as synonyms for presentism, particularly when the historical depiction in question is teleological or triumphalist.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Presentism_%28literary_and_historical_analysis%29

thus, when you translate the notion "the end of the age" (a historical period) as "the end of the world", or "the end of this reality", then what you are doing is called eschatology.
Eschatology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

it is believing that the prophecies apply to your life and that the prophets were talking about you also and that any prophet ever existed and exists, is referring to your life. and this of course is a part of theology as well and a kind of religion, regardless if you worship a deity or not.