What Happens When you die?

[infin8_possibility]

Sorry to get all morbid brothers and sistas. And I know this is a question I dont think any living person can answer but It always intrigues me as to what happens when the human consiousness/spirit/soul is between human vessels.

Would we have the ability to think and interact with others past on while hanging about in the astral waiting for the right identity for are long term spiritual evolution? Or perhaps are individuality is no more and we are just part of the whole?

Much Love.

[demiurge]

well, it is a hard question, but heres what i think.

there is a higher state of conciseness that transcends all states of concisness and densities, in fact it is the soul creator of these densities. since we have never experienced that state of concisness it is the biggest mistery in our lives but at the same time it s not (let s just say we can speak in metaphors about it, and only imagine what it would be like, but never could we imagine the feeling).

lets just say it is the place that needs no words, thoughts...it s a total mistery. when a person dies, i think, it achives that state of cocisness, in fact, the person becomes all concisness and all that is. but, since he/she/it is overwhelmed by the feeling, it still maintains it s own ego, self, not because he/she/it is selfish but for he knows no better. then the defence system (let s call it the matrix) starts to operate. the matrix feeds on concisness, it devours it, it s especially sesitive on egos, for the unkown concisness knows no subjective experience for it belongs in the matrix domain.

the rest is up to the matrix. i belive if we were humans in the past life, we will probablly be in the next, because we already experienced that state of concisness, and we probably wont get back in the animal or plant state since human concisness is higher.

thats what i think. i also think there are ways to defeat the matrix, but not in the sence of destoying it, since it is also infinite, but geting past it survailence, let s just it that way...

[ohforf]

A bit of a short answer but I believe there is nothing after you die, nothing. If I am wrong however I wont be disappointed.

[chandrakavi]

I saw in an interview to Alejandro Jodorowsky, a live chilean mystic, who works on PSYCHOMAGIC, and sees the Tarot freely, talking about his autobiography book he had written(quite interesting, I am still reading it, really well written, called, THE DANCE OF REALITY). Well in the TV interview he says his father was an atheist,
who looked like Stalin, so he says he was "raised by Stalin". When Jodorowsky was 4 years old his father told him: "you die, you rot,. and that's all". HE was left with his eyes wide open looking up sacared at his dad, with a trauma he would have to take care later... Ever since then ,he says funnily, he wished he could have had a metataphysical aspirin... :D:D:D

[angelicangel]

It would be nice to think we come back and watch over others left. I still think my mother and father are with me, looking after every move I make. I have no powers to know if this really happens, or wether it is my imagination, but I keep the ideas in my own head that if there is a life after death, I would not be frighten to pass away.:)

[rebel ins]

depends on your belief

[angelicangel]

depends on your belief
True, but no one really knows what happens to you, if only someone could come back and tell us, we would all be able to tell everyone what it's really like.:)

[chandrakavi]

True, but no one really knows what happens to you, if only someone could come back and tell us, we would all be able to tell everyone what it's really like.:)

If you still have not done so, read: MANY LIVES, MANY MASTERS by Brian L.Weiss.
A psychiastrist of hospital Sinai from Miami, USA, a skeptical about re-birth,
who tells the case of his patient Catherine, whom he treated under hypnosis.
And Catherine remembered with full detail her past lives, of many centuries ago.
Today the psychiatrist does not doubt about re-incarnation and has become a specialist in these subjects.

We can not wait for people who have left to come tell us the story, we have to do
our research on this, on what has happened.

[coshh]

what happens to you when you live?

[angelicangel]

If you still have not done so, read: MANY LIVES, MANY MASTERS by Brian L.Weiss.
A psychiastrist of hospital Sinai from Miami, USA, a skeptical about re-birth,
who tells the case of his patient Catherine, whom he treated under hypnosis.
And Catherine remembered with full detail her past lives, of many centuries ago.
Today the psychiatrist does not doubt about re-incarnation and has become a specialist in these subjects.

We can not wait for people who have left to come tell us the story, we have to do
our research on this, on what has happened.I do believe in re-incarnation too, I have heard some great things that have come through hypnosis. One not to far back about the woman who discribed her existance in Wales, so told of the cottage, village and everything about the people who lived there. They did research and found out that everything was true. So yes i am interested in that subject too. :)

[enlightenme]

i am in 2 minds because i was raised catholic though now follow the Buddhist teachings. I tend to believe more in re-incarnation.

I also believe that there is someone waiting or assisting in the death process….maybe angels.
I watched an untie pass over and she was speaking up to her last breath. She physically fought with the men (angels) assisting her over b/c she did not want to go. She told us what they looked like ect. I was horrified as well as having an immense sense of calm come over me when I observed this. Although you may say she was not in the state of mind so close to death, I witnessed otherwise.

[angelicangel]

i am in 2 minds because i was raised catholic though now follow the Buddhist teachings. I tend to believe more in re-incarnation.

I also believe that there is someone waiting or assisting in the death process….maybe angels.
I watched an untie pass over and she was speaking up to her last breath. She physically fought with the men (angels) assisting her over b/c she did not want to go. She told us what they looked like ect. I was horrified as well as having an immense sense of calm come over me when I observed this. Although you may say she was not in the state of mind so close to death, I witnessed otherwise.

I did witness my mothers passing, weak that she couldn't move, at her final few moments, she raised up with her right arm out stretched and and smiled the biggest smile I had ever seen. I was convinced that either my father or a loved one had come to collect her. I might be wrong, but I know the feeling I felt, at least who ever it was it managed to take her away from the pain she was suffering.:)

[enlightenme]

angelicangel, condolencences for your parents passing.

my unties arms were also stretched upward. although she struggled, her last moment was in peace. until you see it with your own eyes, its unconceivable to think there is nothing following death.

[drakul]

ANGELIC ANGEL, ENLIGHTENME - Thankyou for sharing your experiences with watching your loved ones die. This is very important. I have always hoped that when I die it will not be in a hospital bed but on a hill somewhere with a clear view of the sky and angels will come down to assist me...

[angelicangel]

Fortunatly my mother died in a lovely care home with the view of the Malvern hills in the back ground, something she loved. My family and my sister was there at her passing and although very upsetting at the time, we all felt at peace knowing all her pain had gone. I myself is not worried about passing from this life, I might have been years ago, but now feel that it is like going into a peaceful sleep and let the outside world carry on without you.:)

[chandrakavi]

Fortunatly my mother died in a lovely care home with the view of the Malvern hills in the back ground, something she loved. My family and my sister was there at her passing and although very upsetting at the time, we all felt at peace knowing all her pain had gone. I myself is not worried about passing from this life, I might have been years ago, but now feel that it is like going into a peaceful sleep and let the outside world carry on without you.:)

Thank you for sharing Angel. I can feel you are a HEART PERSON, and that today is very valuable. My mother died on November and my father on Valentine's day. Their health was detiriorated, although i felt their parting, also felt it was better for them, they were no longer being part of us. We have a strong attachment to our dear ones, but after all it is the law of life, and we are included when the time comes. I find people have no fear when parting (although they may have been terrified of death for a life time), my experience is that they are quite at ease in those moments, strangely enough. Their bodies seemed like they had left this world in peace, which is important. That is truly a gift.

[armoured_amazon]

These answers are very long. The short answer is 'we don't know until we die.'

Re: Reincarnation - that contributes to division and ambivalence, hatred and acceptance of injustice around the world in cultures that believe in this state.

[infin8_possibility]

These answers are very long. The short answer is 'we don't know until we die.'


This is true... But woulndt it be nice to have a little understanding before we pass. But wait, most of us have already been though the transition and it is wired into us. We probably understand more then we can ever imagine...

[armoured_amazon]

This is true... But woulndt it be nice to have a little understanding before we pass. But wait, most of us have already been though the transition and it is wired into us. We probably understand more then we can ever imagine...

We always hunger for more understanding. When I was a child, my mother must have had the patience of a saint :)

[drael]

My guess is that we wake up from this dream, remembering our lives and memories, exactly like when u wake up from any other dream.

Whats the astral plane like? Well ive dreamt about it several times. It was like a lucid, communal dream (u share spaces), where thought/fear/love/attachment becomes material (takes serious practice to get right) - and one can join with other souls directly, merging for the full love experience. Oh, and also theres was kinda symbolic echoes from this plane that appear here and there. U prolly go at least part way there every night in ur "dreams".

[deliciously_fresh]

If I knew, I would let you all know. :p :)

Personally, I hope that I will get to meet God and have a nice long chat about life and the secrets of the universe.

My ideal afterlife would be one where love rules. Everyone is at peace with themselves and each other. :)

I would also have an endless supply of doughnuts and other foods that I love. They would be good for my health and non-fattening. :D

Nothing but non-stop bliss.

[asentinel]

what happens to you when you live?

It is such a fantastic discovery that we endlessly discuss not-living!??

My mother said to me when her mind started to slip; actually it was the "personality", that was slipping away, and her spirit/natural self was starting to break through;

"I am going to a whole new world, I am going to the other side of the world, I wish I could take you with me..."

She was not afraid, but sounded like someone or something had been whispering in her ear.

Anyone can think what they will of this. I just understand what I experienced with her.

I know that at the end we were interacting telepathically.

I stayed with her for hours at a time, day after day, and the last day, we went to sleep in the same little space, and I believe were able to interact on another more subtle level.

I know that I facilitated a type of "crossing" over for her. She lasted 2 and a half weeks without food and water (sorry to be giving that detail), and I used powerful plant oils and homeopathic essences to help her transition peacefully, and keep her lungs from filling up and drowning and having a heart attack or stroke, which is what happens when all the organs fail, the body absorbs all the energy it can from within and then one by one they fail. They cannot give them anything except morphine for pain, as they cannot process any food or water.

I was getting her message about a particular music she wanted to "hear" and went to nurse station and reached for the cd and got it in one. Her fav singer. I played music continuously beside her bed. Read her poetry, brought all her fav flowers, and had a photo of her when she was a teenager.

Several days after I had visions and dreams and I believe there is a definite transition. What that being decides to do next, I can only wonder, and is not for my imaginings. The visions were as if in a pyramid and shaft heading up to a brilliant golden doorway, which I was travelling up, and saw through two dark eye sockets, then the flash of a raven's yellow gold eyes and shiny black feathers, then into the black velvet sky surrounded by diamond stars. Coming back to my body inside my room, I saw in front of me a bubble, transparent, containing the sky and stars, like a vortex in front of me. Following days I saw the shaft again, with first again the black sky and stars, and then the last day, an early morning or afternoon sky, with golden clouds speeding overhead rapidly, like in time lapse photography. The shaft was very clear, all the cut blocks and at an angle of 40-45 degrees upwards.

Go figure....

This is what happened to me. A very profound experience.

[astral_girl]

True, but no one really knows what happens to you, if only someone could come back and tell us, we would all be able to tell everyone what it's really like.:)

spirit do -have you ever visited your local spiritualist church?

[armoured_amazon]

It is such a fantastic discovery that we endlessly discuss not-living!??

My mother said to me when her mind started to slip; actually it was the "personality", that was slipping away, and her spirit/natural self was starting to break through;

"I am going to a whole new world, I am going to the other side of the world, I wish I could take you with me..."

She was not afraid, but sounded like someone or something had been whispering in her ear.

Anyone can think what they will of this. I just understand what I experienced with her.

I know that at the end we were interacting telepathically.

I stayed with her for hours at a time, day after day, and the last day, we went to sleep in the same little space, and I believe were able to interact on another more subtle level.

I know that I facilitated a type of "crossing" over for her. She lasted 2 and a half weeks without food and water (sorry to be giving that detail), and I used powerful plant oils and homeopathic essences to help her transition peacefully, and keep her lungs from filling up and drowning and having a heart attack or stroke, which is what happens when all the organs fail, the body absorbs all the energy it can from within and then one by one they fail. They cannot give them anything except morphine for pain, as they cannot process any food or water.

I was getting her message about a particular music she wanted to "hear" and went to nurse station and reached for the cd and got it in one. Her fav singer. I played music continuously beside her bed. Read her poetry, brought all her fav flowers, and had a photo of her when she was a teenager.

Several days after I had visions and dreams and I believe there is a definite transition. What that being decides to do next, I can only wonder, and is not for my imaginings. The visions were as if in a pyramid and shaft heading up to a brilliant golden doorway, which I was travelling up, and saw through two dark eye sockets, then the flash of a raven's yellow gold eyes and shiny black feathers, then into the black velvet sky surrounded by diamond stars. Coming back to my body inside my room, I saw in front of me a bubble, transparent, containing the sky and stars, like a vortex in front of me. Following days I saw the shaft again, with first again the black sky and stars, and then the last day, an early morning or afternoon sky, with golden clouds speeding overhead rapidly, like in time lapse photography. The shaft was very clear, all the cut blocks and at an angle of 40-45 degrees upwards.

Go figure....

This is what happened to me. A very profound experience.

Thankyou for sharing it. :)

[infin8_possibility]

Found an interesting site on "near death experiences of te rich and famous" here is the link.
http://www.near-death.com/famous.html

[deliciously_fresh]

It is such a fantastic discovery that we endlessly discuss not-living!??

My mother said to me when her mind started to slip; actually it was the "personality", that was slipping away, and her spirit/natural self was starting to break through;

"I am going to a whole new world, I am going to the other side of the world, I wish I could take you with me..."

She was not afraid, but sounded like someone or something had been whispering in her ear.

Anyone can think what they will of this. I just understand what I experienced with her.

I know that at the end we were interacting telepathically.

I stayed with her for hours at a time, day after day, and the last day, we went to sleep in the same little space, and I believe were able to interact on another more subtle level.

I know that I facilitated a type of "crossing" over for her. She lasted 2 and a half weeks without food and water (sorry to be giving that detail), and I used powerful plant oils and homeopathic essences to help her transition peacefully, and keep her lungs from filling up and drowning and having a heart attack or stroke, which is what happens when all the organs fail, the body absorbs all the energy it can from within and then one by one they fail. They cannot give them anything except morphine for pain, as they cannot process any food or water.

I was getting her message about a particular music she wanted to "hear" and went to nurse station and reached for the cd and got it in one. Her fav singer. I played music continuously beside her bed. Read her poetry, brought all her fav flowers, and had a photo of her when she was a teenager.

Several days after I had visions and dreams and I believe there is a definite transition. What that being decides to do next, I can only wonder, and is not for my imaginings. The visions were as if in a pyramid and shaft heading up to a brilliant golden doorway, which I was travelling up, and saw through two dark eye sockets, then the flash of a raven's yellow gold eyes and shiny black feathers, then into the black velvet sky surrounded by diamond stars. Coming back to my body inside my room, I saw in front of me a bubble, transparent, containing the sky and stars, like a vortex in front of me. Following days I saw the shaft again, with first again the black sky and stars, and then the last day, an early morning or afternoon sky, with golden clouds speeding overhead rapidly, like in time lapse photography. The shaft was very clear, all the cut blocks and at an angle of 40-45 degrees upwards.
Go figure....

This is what happened to me. A very profound experience.

Very interesting. Thanks for sharing with us. :)

[saaahm]

I believe when you die you again become part of the infinite whole.
If your consciousness has not realised that fact that it is infinite love you are reincarnated and again you go on and on until you reach the stage where upon death you realise you are infinite love.
Life is a learning process and until you realise in one life that you are infinite love, you will continue learning, or more apt, un-learning. :)

[lizzyking]

After death, respiration in organisms ceases to occur, depleting the corpse of oxygen used in the making of Adenosine triphosphate (ATP). ATP is no longer provided to operate the SERCA pumps in the membrane of the sarcoplasmic reticulum, which pump calcium ions into the terminal cisternae. This causes calcium ions to diffuse from the area of higher concentration (in the terminal cisternae and extracellular fluid) to an area of lower concentration (in the sarcomere), binding with troponin and allowing for crossbridging to occur between myosin and actin proteins. .

[marina2012]

ain't dead yet, can't tell ya, tell ya when i get there, cheers

[inkspots]

What happens when you die?

You finally start living in the now.

[sicknote]

You go to sleep for eternity.

[211200]

“WE ARE ALL IMMORTAL BEINGS”

We are all immortal beings, every man, woman and animal. We are not our bodies, we are not our flesh and blood. We are etheric beings housed
in bodies of physical matter.
The body is mortal. When our body dies, we discard it just as if we were taking off an overcoat when we no longer need it. The body then, without us, will start to decay. The body dies, we cannot. (We do not end up in a grave destined to an endless sleep).
Once we have left our body we are no longer trapped and restricted. While we are earthbound we are quite helpless to our bodily functions. We all feel pain, some of us have special needs, and we are all susceptible to dis-ease. But once we’re free from our body these are all left behind.
Our etheric body can reach any destination in a matter of seconds, just by
thought. The body can only slow us down, and has to rely on material transportation, such as aircraft, boats and trains.
We are connected to our body by an invisible cord, rather like the umbilical cord. We often leave our body during sleep, still connected by the cord. On re-entry there is sometimes a jolting sensation, something like the sensation of falling.
Once the body has ripened through experience, it will fall, as does the ripened apple. It is then that the connecting cord is severed, so that we may transcend on to a higher level of existence.
This higher level is sometimes referred to as the unseen world. This is not
a planet or star that can be pin-pointed on an inter-stellar space map. We are no nearer to the unseen world when we are flying on a jet plane, than if we were many fathoms below the sea, in a submarine.
The unseen world is all around us, though it is in a completely different dimension.
The earth is a training ground. We are here to develop our characters, to learn to love and seek knowledge. We are born into this world from the unseen, and return when we are ripe.
Within the unseen world there are many different levels of existence. Each of these inter-penetrates another. When we are ready we will transcend into the level of existence which has been made necessary in accordance with our earthly lives.
We are all striving toward the summit of perfection, reaching higher planes on our spiritual journey. We will be with beings of the same nature as our own. Like attracts like. We cannot dwell on the same plane as
someone we did not get on with while on earth.

Those on a higher level of existence can visit those on lower ones, but those on lower levels cannot visit the higher planes of existence.
Our pets we once had on earth, are often waiting for us in the unseen world, and will spend a great amount of time with us. However, they must eventually join a group of other animals to form a ‘soul group’. This soul group will evolve together to reach spiritual attainment. The length of time our pets will spend with us, before joining their soul group, is hard to say. The concept of time in the unseen world is commensurable to our physical senses - rather like trying to pour a gallon of water into a pint jug.
All of us must go through a life review when we transcend on to the unseen world. The life review can be summed up in that well known expression, “My whole life just flashed before me”. Our entire life while on earth, will be shown to us. We will see this appear all around us in a three dimensional glimpse. In the unseen world we are not limited to our five physical senses. Among many others there is our ability to communicate without vocal expression, and the ability to see all that surrounds us, without moving.
The life review can be seen in this way in a three dimensional scan. We not only feel all the emotions of our own deeds during the life review, but at the same time we feel all the emotions of those we have affected by our own actions. This can be very rewarding if we were showing love, but most unpleasant if we were causing sorrow to those around us. Once we have seen all, we are then able to judge ourselves.
No-one can judge us. We each judge ourselves. There is no-one waiting to punish us for wrong doings, only guides to help us amend our unloving acts.
Evil is the result of humanities’ imperfect development on earth. It is another example of cause and effect - As we sow, so shall we reap. We cannot cheat natural laws once we break them. We have to face the consequences of our own actions. There is no escape, neither confession nor repentance will stop natural law.
There are many illnesses we inflict upon ourselves by our own actions. Most of these are borne out of greed, selfishness, hatred, jealousy, anger, etc.
There is a perfect plan within the universe, but within this plan we are all given a percentage of free will. With this free will we can make our lives as we wish. Life has been given to us, it is up to us to use it well.

[alisa2]

What is it like after we die?

Peaceful.

[infin8_possibility]

Those on a higher level of existence can visit those on lower ones, but those on lower levels cannot visit the higher planes of existence.
Our pets we once had on earth, are often waiting for us in the unseen world, and will spend a great amount of time with us. However, they must eventually join a group of other animals to form a ‘soul group’. This soul group will evolve together to reach spiritual attainment. The length of time our pets will spend with us, before joining their soul group, is hard to say. The concept of time in the unseen world is commensurable to our physical senses - rather like trying to pour a gallon of water into a pint jug.
All of us must go through a life review when we transcend on to the unseen world. The life review can be summed up in that well known expression, “My whole life just flashed before me”. Our entire life while on earth, will be shown to us. We will see this appear all around us in a three dimensional glimpse. In the unseen world we are not limited to our five physical senses. Among many others there is our ability to communicate without vocal expression, and the ability to see all that surrounds us, without moving.
The life review can be seen in this way in a three dimensional scan. We not only feel all the emotions of our own deeds during the life review, but at the same time we feel all the emotions of those we have affected by our own actions. This can be very rewarding if we were showing love, but most unpleasant if we were causing sorrow to those around us. Once we have seen all, we are then able to judge ourselves.
No-one can judge us. We each judge ourselves. There is no-one waiting to punish us for wrong doings, only guides to help us amend our unloving acts.
Evil is the result of humanities’ imperfect development on earth. It is another example of cause and effect - As we sow, so shall we reap. We cannot cheat natural laws once we break them. We have to face the consequences of our own actions. There is no escape, neither confession nor repentance will stop natural law.
There are many illnesses we inflict upon ourselves by our own actions. Most of these are borne out of greed, selfishness, hatred, jealousy, anger, etc.
There is a perfect plan within the universe, but within this plan we are all given a percentage of free will. With this free will we can make our lives as we wish. Life has been given to us, it is up to us to use it well.

Thanks for that, makes a lot of sense. Do you have the URL?

Quite a sync really, I made this thread ages ago and I've just noticed the replies today, I've just been watching "Enter The Void" which focuses around the theme of the Tibetan Book of the Dead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI89ovR36r0

[piskavac]

I don't know what happens exactly after you die, but I think, when I will be dying, it will be need to strong restrain me, and put something on ears, because I suppose, I will be terrible affraided. Anid will shout teribly to anyone to save my life.

[infin8_possibility]

I don't know what happens exactly after you die, but I think, when I will be dying, it will be need to strong restraing me, and put something on ears, because I suppose, I will be terrible affraided.

I understand your concerns mate. I feel similar, but the more I learn, the more I grow and evolve in spirit, the less afraid I am to leave this bio-suit.

I found this by Bashar a while ago, forgot to post it; very apt for this thread:

Bashar - Life After Death (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DLSyU7y97M)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DLSyU7y97M

[infin8_possibility]

the rest is up to the matrix. i belive if we were humans in the past life, we will probablly be in the next, because we already experienced that state of concisness, and we probably wont get back in the animal or plant state since human concisness is higher.


This is a very interesting point you bring up demiurge. I have heard Swerdlow talk of the levels of consciousness you allude to in this paragraph.

Anyway; yes, I pose the question - if indeed, as Swerdlow suggests; that an ET consciousness, is interdimensional and thus, higher than alien and human life - then why would a "spirit/soul" transgress into a human body?

Which has been alluded to many times before, of "Insectoid, Reptoid, pick a name being" reversed a level of implied consciousness and re-incarneted to human form???

[torus]

@3:33

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edB1sb1XDYg&feature=related

[motokeiru]

“WE ARE ALL IMMORTAL BEINGS”

We are all immortal beings, every man, woman and animal. We are not our bodies, we are not our flesh and blood. We are etheric beings housed
in bodies of physical matter.

I would really like that to be true but how can you be so sure?