Alan Watt's experience with shapeshifters

[astralburger]

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.net/CTTM/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_75_Governments_New_Animal _Husbandry_Project_Feb132008.mp3

about 3/4 the way through

He talks about how he has seen a shapeshift and how its not a physical shift,
its more of an etheric overlay/superimposition (this is exactly what I perceived as well!), he didn't say what kind of features the shapeshifter displayed. In masonic tradition, he says, this is called "perfect possession" and he also says that Malachi Martin's descriptions of possessions were spot on.

He also said he saw a hollywood type at a party that "floated" (levitated) over to him.

Good on you Mr. Watt for putting it out there honestly, regardless of the ridicule that is sure to follow.

Brav-fucking-O

[lizzy]

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Check this out guys!

http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=

and now THIS.......Feb. 13, 2008
Alan Watt "Cutting Through The Matrix" LIVE on RBN:
"Government's New Animal Husbandry Project = Lifelong Identification of Their Human Collateral"
(Article: "Every pupil to be numbered and kept on Government database FOR LIFE" by Daniel Bates, Daily Mail (dailymail.co.uk) - Feb. 13, 2008.)



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Well a lady in red just floated past him and propossioned him.............. "not tonight Josephine"LOL

Top freemansons are possesed and merge with entities,

shapeshifting ,Watt thinks he may have seen it. ......... man oh man..

..listen to his latest show, 13th Feb ..

cuttingthought the matrix ,com

Is he coming clean or been newly knobbled??

Take your freaking pick, either way , this is a point of departure , where to ????. LOL, LOL.

HAPPY VALENTINE'S DAY ALL.

(sure it's not April 1st.)

lizzy
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Alex Jones is goingto gotalk to the Bilderbergs'????

wtf is going ON...............
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[lizzy]

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.net/CTTM/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_75_Governments_New_Animal _Husbandry_Project_Feb132008.mp3

about 3/4 the way through

He talks about how he has seen a shapeshift and how its not a physical shift,
its more of an etheric overlay/superimposition (this is exactly what I perceived as well!), he didn't say what kind of features the shapeshifter displayed. In masonic tradition, he says, this is called "perfect possession" and he also says that Malachi Martin's descriptions of possessions were spot on.

He also said he saw a hollywood type at a party that "floated" (levitated) over to him.

Good on you Mr. Watt for putting it out there honestly, regardless of the ridicule that is sure to follow.

Brav-fucking-O

hi astral.

i have listened to AW for a while now.
his research is par excellance.
i heard this show last night and posted as found above.

Talking to eternal_spirit he informs me that Watt had said these things before.

That is aspect of the paranormal is not touched upon regularly by is Watt, is more to do with the fact that science ( that is never told to the masses)can
reproduce phenomena that is identical to these experiences Watt referred to last night.

Watt obviously has a spiritual path of his own, that he is able to accept and understand the existance of posession by an entity ect. is little known , he keeps that a personal issue and directs his work into showing us the diabolical workings of the Elite.

From hamish and myself, may your god or gods go with you........:)

[astralburger]

Hi lizzy
What I think is great is that for some time now, on boards all over, Watt fans poopoo anything paranormal and here is their man talking about it and validating it.

Hopefully this can start uniting various camps into seeing who what the real "enemy" is.

[eternal_spirit]

Hi lizzy
What I think is great is that for some time now, on boards all over, Watt fans poopoo anything paranormal and here is their man talking about it and validating it.

Hopefully this can start uniting various camps into seeing who what the real "enemy" is.

...................................

Not that I'm aware of, I think he means the New Age movement was set up by the PTTB and there is a big Con going on. Plus there is man made technology that can give people fake experiences, also...drugs hypnotic suggestion, so it's not as clear cut as it seems.

If I post about my own personal paranormal, spiritual experiences some here call me a liar and a fake.

[montag]

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.net/CTTM/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_75_Governments_New_Animal _Husbandry_Project_Feb132008.mp3

about 3/4 the way through

He talks about how he has seen a shapeshift and how its not a physical shift,

This is my experience too, I've never seen anyone else shapeshift but I've seen myself do it(bear with me:o)
I believe these shifts may be kind of an archetypal type shadow being that lives with many of us.

Many years a go one of my first relationships was with a a woman that became pathologically psychotic for many reasons which I won't go in to here. Anyway I now believe with what I now know that she became illuminated in a fashion, anyway cut a long story short one night on one of her psychotic raves she made me stand in front of a mirror and stare at myself. She was manic and demanded that I not take my eyes of my own reflection, half an hour or longer I was still staring, all she could say was 'keep looking'. Then to my great astonishment nearly forty five minutes later my face shifted in this really fucking scary monster which went boo and scared the living shit outta me!

This I believe is a kind of shapeshift similar to what you and Watt are talking about, not a physical shapeshift but rather more an energetic one.

[montag]

Just recently I did some research on the phenomena and came up with this lady's article.

Mirror Meditation.

This is a Third Eye exercise, designed to open the Third Eye, and it is useful for enhancing the process of integrating the collective consciousness. It will give you an opportunity to give love to the aspects of your greater, collective Self, as faces that are not your own, appear as your reflection in the mirror. Some of these faces will probably scare you, it is an opportunity to give love despite fear. If you become really spooked by it, then stop, turn the lights on and get grounded. If you have a tendency to paranoia, then this meditation is not for you!

I call this meditation "The Mirror Game", and enjoy it as a "Kundalini party trick." Fun to do with other people, at parties! All of us gathered in a darkened bathroom, meeting alternate aspects of each other, or facing each other in a circle, with the lights dimmed. As you do this game, you will become unified with the other people you are doing it with, and you will actually start seeing the same things.

In the twilight, when it's dim, it's very easy for your eyes to play tricks on you and that's what we want. We want tricks.

I have fun with it, I treat it lightly, because I find a casual approach is less intimidating and scary to people... but the use of mirrors and similar exercises have been used for serious magic, for thousands of years. There is quite some power and history behind this game. The oldest Celtic burials show that each person was buried with a scrying mirror, not clear enough to actually use for examining your physical appearance, but cloudy for scrying to see and communicate with one's patron diety or spirit guides.

It's fun to do solo, and it's also fun to do it with other people, so long as none of them are too easily frightened. Don't use it to scare people! Ask for the protection and assistance of your guardian Angels, before you begin, and remember to get grounded, and stay grounded. If you can manage to get into the Witness state, so much the better!

To play the game, you need a dark room, a lit candle and a mirror. Preferably a wall mirror, so you do not have to hold it. By light of a single candle that's placed somewhere behind you or well off to one side, in a very dark room, gaze into a mirror. Look into your own eyes, or focus on the third eye spot between your eyebrows, on your forehead. Because of the light being very dim, you'll find that your eyes keep going out of focus. Let them. Avoid blinking to refocus your eyes, because it is the soft focus that will reveal the faces. When your eyes go out of focus, don't try to blink to clear them, let them go out of focus, but keep looking.

When your eyes go out of focus, your Third Eye will kick in, and it will start to show you other faces. Other aspects of yourself, past lives, faces from the collective, aliens, faeries, people of other races and other times, all kinds of faces. Some of them may be faces of old Gods, like Hecate or Thor. Some of them may be your Divine Beloved showing up to say hello. Often with people who are just doing this for the first time, the faces will flash by so quickly that you can't see them completely. Sometimes a face will linger so you can get a good look at it. I have seen a grey alien in my mirror, so steady and clear that I could turn my head and see the sides of it's head, and examine the tiny wrinkles in the dove grey skin around its large black eyes.

Some of the faces will probably be very scary looking. This is to challenge you to give unconditional love to All That Is. The grey alien usually freaks people when they first see it, because it is so strange, so very alien and unemotional. The old God archetype of Hecate, for example often appears with one side of her face a skull, and the other a cat! Yet, Hecate is a Mother Goddess, of hearth, home and patron of childbirth. Benevolent. So don't get scared of the faces you see, no matter how horrific they are. Just pretend you're Stephen King, and you're looking for material for a good novel. As long as you stay grounded, the faces won't scare you. It's very important to do this exercise when you're grounded.

Again, it's very simple. A completely dark room, a mirror, like a bathroom mirror, if you can sit comfortably in front of it, or you can do it standing. One candle, not in front of you, but behind you or off to the side somewhere. The room should be dim enough so that you can just barely can make out your features. You can just barely see yourself as your eyes adjust to the light. Set the candle down, be grounded, relax, allow your eyes to go out of focus, and stare into the mirror.

If you focus on your Divine Beloved, it may show up so clearly that you can almost talk to it. Which is a very interesting experience, seeing the opposite gender version of yourself in your bathroom mirror. Let your eyes go out of focus, and just give unconditional love to all of these reflected images, and all the faces that come up. No matter how scary they may look, they can't hurt you. They're just showing up so you can love them.

By loving them, you reduce the separation and integrate them as part of your Self. Not in a bad way, simply in a way that we are taking the separate ego-mind, and we are bringing it down through the levels of the unconscious. At different levels of the unconscious, the past lives, and the archetypes, and the collective faces are available as information. As you move down through the collective, there will be more and more faces. And then finally, as you get closer to Unity, there will be fewer faces. They'll gradually reduce until you may see the same half dozen faces coming up again and again. Where before, you were seeing a thousand faces in an hour, or even more.

Eventually, you will vanish! Where your head used to be, there will be nothing, and you can see the wall behind it. This might freak you out the first time it happens, but it is very positive. The Buddha aspires to be nothingness.

This is perfectly normal. It's a good way to open and work on your Third Eye. All I have to caution you against is to be very grounded, and not to be afraid of what you see.

That is the challenge, to give unconditional love to All That IS, and accept it. The faces can't hurt you, but they're neat, they're fun to watch. Enjoy it! Blessings...
http://kundalini-teacher.com/meditations/mirror.php

[grover66]

Yeah, I've done that before: stared for a few minutes at myself in a mirror only to see "another" face superimpose over my own! Scares the shit out of me so I haven't done it for ages. I might try it again though out of interest ...

[eternal_spirit]

Yeah, I've done that before: stared for a few minutes at myself in a mirror only to see "another" face superimpose over my own! Scares the shit out of me so I haven't done it for ages. I might try it again though out of interest ...


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Yes, I've seen it too, can be freaky. Some may think they are possessed when this happens. Folklore tales about the devil in the mirror etc.

[devin]

I've looked in the mirror and saw a couple of different faces. The first image I saw was a monster-like entity as montag described but mine didn't talk. :)

Have you guys read Steve Gambles articles on this? According to him, we all pretty much have astral entities in our energy fields and they are the different faces that we see in the mirror. Before I ever read Steve Gambles "shopping for spirit" articles a psychic told me that I had a few holes in my aura and I asked "what does that mean?" and she said that "it is most likely entities."

[mr_pixie]

I've looked in the mirror and saw a couple of different faces. The first image I saw was a monster-like entity as montag described but mine didn't talk. :)

Have you guys read Steve Gambles articles on this? According to him, we all pretty much have astral entities in our energy fields and they are the different faces that we see in the mirror. Before I ever read Steve Gambles "shopping for spirit" articles a psychic told me that I had a few holes in my aura and I asked "what does that mean?" and she said that "it is most likely entities."

I tryed this a few year ago as well and my face did start to change? It scared me too.

[weirdwolf71]

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Is he coming clean or been newly knobbled??

Take your freaking pick, either way , this is a point of departure , where to ????. LOL, LOL.

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He's actually talked about this encounter in the past...was quite a while ago but it definitely is not the first time he's mentioned it.

[thirdwave]

LOL

I will be the first to admit I felt David Icke did not put enough emphasis on the detail of how the shape shifts came about... but in recent years he has fully explain him self... in some of last years vid casts he goes into depth on how shape shifting comes about....

Well now that the penny has finally dropped for Watt, maybe his fans can lay of Icke a bit..... ? ..would be nice.

I wonder how long it will be before he finally understands the not all entities are of human origin as well...... :rolleyes:

[logic bomb]

Well now that the penny has finally dropped for Watt, maybe his fans can lay of Icke a bit..... ? ..would be nice

The penny hasn't suddenly dropped Thirdwave, he's talked about this before and has also aluded to spiritual aspects.. I remember a few occasions he did this last summer. Alan Watt is well aware of the spiritual aspects of reality and all the weird shit that goes with it, he just chooses to focus on 5 sense reality in the main so as not to put people of or confuse them. That is just his style.

If you listened to enough of his blurbs you would already know this.

The anti Alan Watt threads on this forum have always demonstrated a lack of knowledge on the subject of what he actually believes or has experienced.

Quite pathetic really...

[tron]

The penny hasn't suddenly dropped Thirdwave, he's talked about this before and has also aluded to spiritual aspects.. I remember a few occasions he did this last summer. Alan Watt is well aware of the spiritual aspects of reality and all the weird shit that goes with it, he just chooses to focus on 5 sense reality in the main so as not to put people of or confuse them. That is just his style.

If you listened to enough of his blurbs you would already know this.

The anti Alan Watt threads on this forum have always demonstrated a lack of knowledge on the subject of what he actually believes or has experienced.

Quite pathetic really...

You could be right here, however, wouldn't the Alan Watt 'supporters' demonstrate a lack of knowledge also as they always seem to be down-stating the influence of other entities, as far as I can see anyway. That appeared to be reason for the Alan Watt threads in the first place, not Alan himself, but his 'fans' blinkered views. Just an observation, I could be wrong. Also, I do not know, but wasn't Alan linked with Craig Oxley when he was trying to pin David Icke as a member of MI5?

xx

[eternal_spirit]

You could be right here, however, wouldn't the Alan Watt 'supporters' demonstrate a lack of knowledge also as they always seem to be down-stating the influence of other entities, as far as I can see anyway. That appeared to be reason for the Alan Watt threads in the first place, not Alan himself, but his 'fans' blinkered views. Just an observation, I could be wrong. Also, I do not know, but wasn't Alan linked with Craig Oxley when he was trying to pin David Icke as a member of MI5?

xx

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Well, I have a fair amount of knowledge and direct personal experiences, probably more than the people who diss Watt.:rolleyes:

[hirschfelder]

Alan Watt is well aware of the spiritual aspects of reality and all the weird shit that goes with it, he just chooses to focus on 5 sense reality in the main so as not to put people of or confuse them. That is just his style.

I'd respect that a lot more if he didn't mock the "spiritual aspects" or those that research them. If you can't say something nice don't say nothing and all that

I still like AW though

[thirdwave]

he just chooses to focus on 5 sense reality in the main so as not to put people of or confuse them.


Oh he very much so does that, so much so that he actually scoffs at others that do..... IMO what is outside of the 5 senses is actually far more important that what's inside, the 5 senses are only the effect of what happens outside of the 5 senses..... I have never dissed Alan Watt for not talking about it (no one here really has).., I have dissed him for having a go at others for doing it... and have always made this very clear.

This is why for me personally I find it frustrating and patronising when people like Watt make out we are day dreamers with our heads in the clouds talking a load of hog wash.... just because we don't beat our heads against the wall within the 5 sense prison the illuminati have kept us in for many many years.... if he is just trying to play down the importance of the spiritual aspect then that is even worse, but some of us are ready for it.

And IMO anyone with true spiritual knowledge would understand this and the importance of that knowledge.

those are my views anyway.

[edelweiss pirate]

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.net/CTTM/Alan_Watt_CTTM_LIVEonRBN_75_Governments_New_Animal _Husbandry_Project_Feb132008.mp3

about 3/4 the way through

He talks about how he has seen a shapeshift and how its not a physical shift,
its more of an etheric overlay/superimposition (this is exactly what I perceived as well!), he didn't say what kind of features the shapeshifter displayed. In masonic tradition, he says, this is called "perfect possession" and he also says that Malachi Martin's descriptions of possessions were spot on.

He also said he saw a hollywood type at a party that "floated" (levitated) over to him.

Good on you Mr. Watt for putting it out there honestly, regardless of the ridicule that is sure to follow.

Brav-fucking-O

Alan Watt is first class naturally. However whether a Holywood type really floated over to him or whether he hallucinated it.. who knows? I was once told that I been invisible for a couple of seconds... Of course I was still there but my friend just couldn't see me.... I'd stopped my thoughts and kind of shut myself down... interesting that the outward manifestation of my doing that was that my mate next to me couldn't see me anymore... at least that's what he said.

[edelweiss pirate]

Oh he very much so does that, so much so that he actually scoffs at others that do..... IMO what is outside of the 5 senses is actually far more important that what's inside, the 5 senses are only the effect of what happens outside of the 5 senses..... I have never dissed Alan Watt for not talking about it (no one here really has).., I have dissed him for having a go at others for doing it... and have always made this very clear.

This is why for me personally I find it frustrating and patronising when people like Watt make out we are day dreamers with our heads in the clouds talking a load of hog wash.... just because we don't beat our heads against the wall within the 5 sense prison the illuminati have kept us in for many many years.... if he is just trying to play down the importance of the spiritual aspect then that is even worse, but some of us are ready for it.

And IMO anyone with true spiritual knowledge would understand this and the importance of that knowledge.

those are my views anyway.

So Alan Watt doesn't have true spiritual knowledge? Wave, you're ridiculous.... and you're baiting again. Didn't the experiences we had with Woghd teach you that the CIA love the Reptilian stuff... doesn't that make you raise any questions? Prolly not eh Wave. You're such a David Icke yes man... why? I think for myself and trust the evidence of my own senses... You it seems let others do your thinking for you... and your experiencing.

[drakul]

Just wanted to say i think this is a fascinating thread. Listened to the entire Alan Watt broadcast - never heard him speak before. Makes alot of sense.

I have also had the experience of seeing my face change in a mirror. The article posted on using mirrors to `scry'? `divine'? not sure what was the purpose - very interesting, but I can see where it could also backfire or lead to psychosis. Imagine seeing a face not your own every time you looked in a mirror.

I used to babysit 3 kids for a week at a time while their parents were out of town. They lived in an old pre civil war stone home in Virginia. At that time, the house still had all the original windows. These windows were very tall and slightly wavy and a little blurred/bubbly with age, (the stone walls were 11 inches thick and the ceilings 10ft high).

One nite when the kids were in bed I was standing in the living room and happened to glance out a window. In the glass was clearly reflected a face, up close, smiling and looking directly at me! I glanced at the other windows - every window had a face in it! All smiling and waving at me. As if all the ghosts in the house were gathered outside looking in, trying to make contact with me, waving as if they wanted me to come to them.

It was very very frightening.

[edelweiss pirate]

Just wanted to say i think this is a fascinating thread. Listened to the entire Alan Watt broadcast - never heard him speak before. Makes alot of sense.

I have also had the experience of seeing my face change in a mirror. The article posted on using mirrors to `scry'? `divine'? not sure what was the purpose - very interesting, but I can see where it could also backfire or lead to psychosis. Imagine seeing a face not your own every time you looked in a mirror.

I used to babysit 3 kids for a week at a time while their parents were out of town. They lived in an old pre civil war stone home in Virginia. At that time, the house still had all the original windows. These windows were very tall and slightly wavy and a little blurred/bubbly with age, (the stone walls were 11 inches thick and the ceilings 10ft high).

One nite when the kids were in bed I was standing in the living room and happened to glance out a window. In the glass was clearly reflected a face, up close, smiling and looking directly at me! I glanced at the other windows - every window had a face in it! All smiling and waving at me. As if all the ghosts in the house were gathered outside looking in, trying to make contact with me, waving as if they wanted me to come to them.

It was very very frightening.

I think the poster called Death Cult Reject who is related to Crowley said that he once saw Crowley's face in the mirror.

[thirdwave]

So Alan Watt doesn't have true spiritual knowledge? Wave, you're ridiculous.... and you're baiting again. Didn't the experiences we had with Woghd teach you that the CIA love the Reptilian stuff... doesn't that make you raise any questions? Prolly not eh Wave. You're such a David Icke yes man... why? I think for myself and trust the evidence of my own senses... You it seems let others do your thinking for you... and your experiencing.

If someone does not have the view you like it does not mean they are "baiting"

sorry you dont like my views dude.... I also dont agree with yours and not really sure where your coming from.... but there you go..all shapes and sizes...

[astralburger]

HEY I will not have this thread devolve into idiocy. If you people want to go on about 'who's the coolest conspiracy researcher' do it on another thread.

[lizzy]

LOL

I will be the first to admit I felt David Icke did not put enough emphasis on the detail of how the shape shifts came about... but in recent years he has fully explain him self... in some of last years vid casts he goes into depth on how shape shifting comes about....

Well now that the penny has finally dropped for Watt, maybe his fans can lay of Icke a bit..... ? ..would be nice.

I wonder how long it will be before he finally understands the not all entities are of human origin as well...... :rolleyes:


You really don't read much do you thridwave????????

It has already been said that Watt has talked about this before???????

I made mention of it in a post on the Watt thread.

It is NOT that Watt has had a recent "awakening" to this phemonema!!! He has talked about it years before. But has put his empthise on TPTB and is VERY aware that to some degree the newage movement has been designed and controlled by them for decades.

When will the penny drop with YOU????:rolleyes:

[lizzy]

He's actually talked about this encounter in the past...was quite a while ago but it definitely is not the first time he's mentioned it.


Thanku wierdwolf,

yes,talking to others about this , have informed of the same.

Not a new departure at all , just giving us his past metaphysical experiences again .;)

The following night's show night's came with a with a warning .....:D

.... that a certain orgainization guarenteed that after their course they would hear god talking to them.

And they did.............the voice was electronically beamed in. LOL.:eek:

[lizzy]

This is my experience too, I've never seen anyone else shapeshift but I've seen myself do it(bear with me:o)
I believe these shifts may be kind of an archetypal type shadow being that lives with many of us.

Many years a go one of my first relationships was with a a woman that became pathologically psychotic for many reasons which I won't go in to here. Anyway I now believe with what I now know that she became illuminated in a fashion, anyway cut a long story short one night on one of her psychotic raves she made me stand in front of a mirror and stare at myself. She was manic and demanded that I not take my eyes of my own reflection, half an hour or longer I was still staring, all she could say was 'keep looking'. Then to my great astonishment nearly forty five minutes later my face shifted in this really fucking scary monster which went boo and scared the living shit outta me!

This I believe is a kind of shapeshift similar to what you and Watt are talking about, not a physical shapeshift but rather more an energetic one.

Thanku montag,
interesting story.
and the second back u post also .
Also mr pixie /devin for confirming montag.

I don't look in the mirror very long these days......at my age the shapeshifting is quite alarming, in the morning it can horrify , by evening it can quite pleasing LOL

.......just keep looking right.LOL:)

[majicdragon]

This is all too much for an Icke-Boarder... Shape-shifting?... what's next.

[lizzy]

The penny hasn't suddenly dropped Thirdwave, he's talked about this before and has also aluded to spiritual aspects.. I remember a few occasions he did this last summer. Alan Watt is well aware of the spiritual aspects of reality and all the weird shit that goes with it, he just chooses to focus on 5 sense reality in the main so as not to put people of or confuse them. That is just his style.

If you listened to enough of his blurbs you would already know this.

The anti Alan Watt threads on this forum have always demonstrated a lack of knowledge on the subject of what he actually believes or has experienced.

Quite pathetic really...

Exactly LB, Exactly.;)

[lizzy]

HEY I will not have this thread devolve into idiocy. If you people want to go on about 'who's the coolest conspiracy researcher' do it on another thread.

hi astralbeef,.....:) and thirdwave......................
went a few rounds with wavey and woggy (woghd), these guys crushed my Alan Watt thread with their abuse against the guy.

AW kept exposure of the NWO 3 D mostly.
He was hammered for being negative, as if it is'nt:rolleyes: without giving answers.:eek:

We know the answers are to resist and stay on our own spiritual paths:cool:

Wavey is sooooooo spiritual that even the slightest consent of AW 's other talents were questioned only yesterday. Our enlightened mod in response to hearing AW's excellent guitar playing suggested Watt had ripped it off from some dead guy:eek: LOL.

Even suggested Watt did'nt exist:confused:

Where's woggy now wavey,:D

[Anders Lindman]

There are obviously different kinds of people, but shapeshifting people? I believe more in Santa Claus than that.

Alan Watt talked about an experiment where students volunteered to give test persons electric shocks with higher and higher levels. The experiment was to see how far people will go following orders. But wait a minute! What kind of students would volunteer to give other people electric shocks?! :eek: That can only have been psycho/sociopaths.

That's undeniably a real difference. Some people are sociopaths.

[astralburger]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Here's a bit of a doc on the ether and ghosts in the mirror.

I was also reading some Franz Bardon earlier and he talks about the creation of phantoms or elementals by willpower.

Which made me think of what Malachi Martin says about possession, that these beings don't possess the physical body but rather the WILL of the person.

[montag]

It's interesting you bring up the black mirror astralburger, last weekend I was staying at a large resort on the Gold Coast and in their foyer they had a full length black mirror that had a very ornate frame with masonic symbolism on it.

At the very top of the mirror was the capstone of the all seeing eyes with the rays behind it(just like the one on Crowleys hat in that famous picture). Either side of the capstone were two angels holding a crown over the top of the all seeing eye. I wish I had of taken a picture of it now, it was quite striking. I remember thinking what was the point of a dark mirror? Now it makes sense.

[astralburger]

You should ask the concierge to take the pic and send it over if you can.

Btw the rest of that doc is pretty interesting -its all a survey but still.

Electricity and the occult. The first electronic image is of a ghost taken by sir william crookes - who knew tesla pretty well. Now tesla said in his first edition autobiography in chapter one that all his ideas and inspirations were actually communicated to him by extradimensional entities....and this is the guy who is responsible for radio, AC and of course wifi ---

This electromagnetic grid we live in must facilitate these other entities in a very direct way it would seem.....posting on the internets too much may cause possession lol


Seriously

[kguk]

Yeah, I've done that before: stared for a few minutes at myself in a mirror only to see "another" face superimpose over my own! Scares the shit out of me so I haven't done it for ages. I might try it again though out of interest ...

haha. try doing it in the early hours of the morning when all around you is silent and most people in the area are sleeping.
Theres like a superstition ive had when brought up that you shouldn't look at mirrors at night. I try it now and then and get the same result. Movement around your face and "another" face impose on you. Especially with my eyes. One eye, usually the left eye, looks totally foreign to me, especially when i compare it to my other eye. Its like something looking at me from some unknown place, like a window. That usually scares the crap out of me, enough to stop.:D

[drakul]

Now tesla said in his first edition autobiography in chapter one that all his ideas and inspirations were actually communicated to him by extradimensional entities....and this is the guy who is responsible for radio, AC and of course wifi ---

Seriously

I have to contest this statement about Tesla - I have heard it before but never been able to find any proof of it - including in Tesla's autobiography. Could you pls cite the page for this claim?

My father was a huge Tesla fan from childhood. Being Serbian from the same area of Krajina, now in Croatia, my dad actually knew people who knew Tesla. When my father was a kid these older men used to tell him stories about how they would go down by the river Drina(?) to chat and Tesla, only a youth then, would tell them about his theories on alternating current. This was before Tesla emigrated to the US.

[drakul]

It's interesting you bring up the black mirror astralburger, last weekend I was staying at a large resort on the Gold Coast and in their foyer they had a full length black mirror that had a very ornate frame with masonic symbolism on it.

At the very top of the mirror was the capstone of the all seeing eyes with the rays behind it(just like the one on Crowleys hat in that famous picture). Either side of the capstone were two angels holding a crown over the top of the all seeing eye. I wish I had of taken a picture of it now, it was quite striking. I remember thinking what was the point of a dark mirror? Now it makes sense.


`Through a glass darkly' - from somewhere in the Old Testament.

[astralburger]

I have to contest this statement about Tesla - I have heard it before but never been able to find any proof of it - including in Tesla's autobiography. Could you pls cite the page for this claim?

My father was a huge Tesla fan from childhood. Being Serbian from the same area of Krajina, now in Croatia, my dad actually knew people who knew Tesla. When my father was a kid these older men used to tell him stories about how they would go down by the river Drina(?) to chat and Tesla, only a youth then, would tell them about his theories on alternating current. This was before Tesla emigrated to the US.

Every autobiography available is the second edition. The one I found, while exhaustively researching Tesla for a script, was the first edition autobiography at the New York Public Library around the year 2000.

In comparing the first and second editions, the only part that is taken out is this one sentence reference to outside entities having always been giving him his ideas.....if I had known at the time that the first edition was this hard to come by I'd have stole the book from the library. Next time I'm in NYC, I'll scan it.

Beyond that, tesla was best friends with a serious channeler in Swami Vivekananda and publicly stated that his discussions with the Swami helped immensely further his conceptualizations and innovating resources. Swami Vivikenanda was the first guru to the west and was also a 33rd degree freemason from the calcutta lodge. Of course this is circumstancial and there are other examples like that but the direct proof has been abstained from the record it seems.

I can understand your doubts and I have no credible retort other than my reference to his first edition autobiography (first chapter, around page 20-22), I wish I could do more.

[majicdragon]

`Through a glass darkly' - from somewhere in the Old Testament.
First Epistle of Paul to the Corinthians (Bible, 1 Corinthians 13, verse 11)

When I was a child, I spake as a child,
I understood as a child, I thought as a child:
but when I became a man, I put away
childish things. For now we see through a
glass, darkly; but then face to face: now
I know in part; but then shall I know even
as also I am known.

[mahabaratara]

.............................

Yes, I've seen it too, can be freaky. Some may think they are possessed when this happens. Folklore tales about the devil in the mirror etc.

Dont know about the devil but SCRYING can lead to unpleasant things if you dont know what you are doing...

[drakul]

Dont know about the devil but SCRYING can lead to unpleasant things if you dont know what you are doing...

Yes. I was watching some of the other videos from the series that Astralburger posted a link to. According to the commentator there are entities that seek to posess people by piercing through their astral ether, (or something like that). Usually these are susceptible people who are alcoholics, drug addicts, etc and their their ether is weakened.

There was this one type of unique type of ghost he talked about - one day this guy came up and showed him a picture. It was a doorway with a long black crack over it. The guy asked the commentator -

Do you see the ghost?

No. All I see is a black crack over a doorway.

Keep looking at it.

So the commentator kept looking and after awhile he noticed something strange about the crack but he wasn't sure what. Then the guy showed him another picture of the doorway and he noticed that he crack seemed to have changed position. The guy told him -

That crack is a ghost. It's a ghost lurking over the doorway waiting until someone passes under to drop down on and enter the person through their crown chakra. But it has to be someone who is susceptible.

?????? brrrr I feel a cold chill in the air.

So Watch out for long black cracks over doorways, especially if your crown chakra is feeling susceptible!

[razed1]

so does any1 know the 'hollywood producer' that watt was talking about, 'floated across' the room in her toronto home???

i think he mentioned her name was josephine or something like that

it would be great if someone knows who she is, we can see pictures of her and see if she does look weird or something.... :confused:

[damagedbrainn]

So now the Masons have a term called "perfect possession"?

Seriously, he makes this stuff up as he goes along. Sorry.

[astralburger]

So now the Masons have a term called "perfect possession"?

Seriously, he makes this stuff up as he goes along. Sorry.

He borrowed the term from Malachi Martin.

[danucrom]

so does any1 know the 'hollywood producer' that watt was talking about, 'floated across' the room in her toronto home???

i think he mentioned her name was josephine or something like that

it would be great if someone knows who she is, we can see pictures of her and see if she does look weird or something.... :confused:

She probably wasn't called Josephine.

Not tonight Joséphine

Meaning

This is the supposed response by Napoleon Bonaparte when declining sex with Empress Joséphine.

Origin

There's no evidence whatsoever that Napoleon ever uttered these words. There's certainly no printed record of them in any language in his lifetime. The Oxford Dictionary of Quotations lists the phrase as early 20th century. The earliest reference that I can find is to a 1911 recording of a song with that name, composed by Seymour Furth and sung by Ada Jones and Billy Murray.

Why the phrase came to be coined isn't clear. Had it been earlier it might be plausible that it was a piece of anti-Napoleonic sentiment, which was rife in England a century before that song was penned. By the 20th century the strong feelings against Napoleon had abated. The couple were divorced, so it may be that it refers to some real or imagined event in Napoleon and Joséphine's life.


http://www.phrases.org.uk/meanings/260600.html