Vitamin D (Cold Winter)

[brainstorm]

Hey I'm wondering how much vitamin D to take during the cold winter months. After searching the internet I have read multiple amounts to take daily from 1000IU up to 4000IU which I think isn't factoring in cold winter weather. Also if you take too much will you just pass it through urine like vitamin C? Any help is appreciated, thanks.

[robbyblade]

You don't piss it out, you store it in the liver, I believe. It's not one of the water-soluble vitamins. It's fat-soluble.

It's actually a hormone. There's a lot we don't understand about it.

Here is a book by a guy who took up to 100,000 IU's a day. He mentions a study with pregnant women who were taking that much.

Amazon.com: THE MIRACULOUS RESULTS OF EXTREMELY HIGH DOSES OF THE SUNSHINE HORMONE VITAMIN D3 MY EXPERIMENT WITH HUGE DOSES OF D3 FROM 25,000 to 50,000 to 100,000 IU A Day OVER A 1 YEAR PERIOD eBook: Jeff T Bowles: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/4171pjfY7TL.@@AMEPARAM@@4171pjfY7TL

Anyway, the guy thinks that vitamin D deficiency is basically the cause of all major disease because we don't live by the equator anymore.

It is true that we can't really get a lot of vitamin D without the Sun, unless you eat a lot of oysters, or TONS of fish.

[nirvana]

You don't piss it out, you store it in the liver, I believe. It's not one of the water-soluble vitamins. It's fat-soluble.

It's actually a hormone. There's a lot we don't understand about it.

Here is a book by a guy who took up to 100,000 IU's a day. He mentions a study with pregnant women who were taking that much.

http://www.amazon.com/MIRACULOUS-EXTREMELY-SUNSHINE-EXPERIMENT-ebook/dp/B005FCKN2S/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326958042&sr=1-4

Anyway, the guy thinks that vitamin D deficiency is basically the cause of all major disease because we don't live by the equator anymore.

It is true that we can't really get a lot of vitamin D without the Sun, unless you eat a lot of oysters, or TONS of fish.


Just checked out that link with amazon and would encourage everyone to check out the link .

Im taking 10,000iu a day people have told me its too much but the author on amazon is taking 50 and even 60,000 iu everyday .

What i havent been doing but know i should be doing from the link is taking a vitamin k supplement that has k1 and k2.

[psketti]

You don't piss it out, you store it in the liver, I believe. It's not one of the water-soluble vitamins. It's fat-soluble.

It's actually a hormone. There's a lot we don't understand about it.

Here is a book by a guy who took up to 100,000 IU's a day. He mentions a study with pregnant women who were taking that much.

http://www.amazon.com/MIRACULOUS-EXTREMELY-SUNSHINE-EXPERIMENT-ebook/dp/B005FCKN2S/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1326958042&sr=1-4

Anyway, the guy thinks that vitamin D deficiency is basically the cause of all major disease because we don't live by the equator anymore.

It is true that we can't really get a lot of vitamin D without the Sun, unless you eat a lot of oysters, or TONS of fish.

Great link, thank you.

[nirvana]

Does anyone know the correct amount of vitamin k1 k2 to take with high dose vit d3?

anyone know any good sites for vitamins in the UK?:)

[wildhorse]

yeah my friend swears by colloidal silver and high dose vit C and D3

just want to clarify...is Vit D supplement to take or does it have to be vit D3?

*jus i got some cod liver oil and malt winging its way to me and well yeah, i could spoon that in big time* ...infact i think it will cause fights between me and mr grope :p

[nirvana]

yeah my friend swears by colloidal silver and high dose vit C and D3

just want to clarify...is Vit D supplement to take or does it have to be vit D3?

*jus i got some cod liver oil and malt winging its way to me and well yeah, i could spoon that in big time* ...infact i think it will cause fights between me and mr grope :p

Vitamin d3 is best. The guy in the link swears by vitamin D3 .;)

[wildhorse]

Vitamin d3 is best. The guy in the link swears by vitamin D3 .;)

yeah my friend also does....will have to invest when finished off my cod liver oil n malt....all the more reason to bang it in mmmmmmmmmmm ;):p

[al209]

Does anyone know the correct amount of vitamin k1 k2 to take with high dose vit d3?

anyone know any good sites for vitamins in the UK?:)

I would really worry more about vitamin A when high dosing D3, and i wouldnt go much higher than 5000 IU, less if you live somewhere sunny. 100,00 IU is not recommended by any credible source ive come across, its a huge pharmacologic dose that much will likely induce Vitamin A deficiency if constantly taken.

I would go for a 2-2.5 ratio of A : D and 1mg K2.

Thorne Research do a supplement that is 5000 IU of D3 and 1mg K2 per 10 drops. Its quite a reasonable price and you can get it from iHerb.com. 150g lamb or beef liver twice a week will give adequate A. The A must come from pre-formed Retinol. B-carotene doesnt really do the job properly. I wouldnt worry too much about the ratios though as long as you are getting plenty of all 3, within the limits of what you could realistically get from food/sun. Remember that folks at the equator have black skin to prevent too much D being made, so supplement wisely.

Vitamin K1 - you will get plenty by eating well cooked (boiled) greens with butter or coconut oil once or twice a week. K1 doesnt affect absorption or utliisation of the others afaik.

[nirvana]

I would really worry more about vitamin A when high dosing D3, and i wouldnt go much higher than 5000 IU, less if you live somewhere sunny. 100,00 IU is not recommended by any credible source ive come across, its a huge pharmacologic dose that much will likely induce Vitamin A deficiency if constantly taken.

I would go for a 2-2.5 ratio of A : D and 1mg K2.

Thorne Research do a supplement that is 5000 IU of D3 and 1mg K2 per 10 drops. Its quite a reasonable price and you can get it from iHerb.com. 150g lamb or beef liver twice a week will give adequate A. The A must come from pre-formed Retinol. B-carotene doesnt really do the job properly. I wouldnt worry too much about the ratios though as long as you are getting plenty of all 3. Vitamin K1 - you will get plenty by eating well cooked (boiled) greens with butter or coconut oil once or twice a week. K1 doesnt affect absorption or utliisation of the others afaik.

Yes may get some extra vitamin a. I take a multi vitamin with a in. From the research from the vitamin d council website the only cases known of people becomming toxic from vitamin d is when they go over 40,000 iu.

[al209]

Yes may get some extra vitamin a. I take a multi vitamin with a in. From the research from the vitamin d council website the only cases known of people becomming toxic from vitamin d is when they go over 40,000 iu.

http://www.westonaprice.org/fat-soluble-activators/vitamin-a-on-trial
http://www.westonaprice.org/fat-soluble-activators/x-factor-is-vitamin-k2
http://www.westonaprice.org/fat-soluble-activators/seafood-to-sunshine

have a read of those articles, Chris Masterjohn has done some good research on the literature regarding the interplay between fat soluble vitamins.

[nirvana]

http://www.westonaprice.org/fat-soluble-activators/vitamin-a-on-trial
http://www.westonaprice.org/fat-soluble-activators/x-factor-is-vitamin-k2
http://www.westonaprice.org/fat-soluble-activators/seafood-to-sunshine

have a read of those articles, Chris Masterjohn has done some good research on the literature regarding the interplay between fat soluble vitamins.


Thanks Al

[al209]

Anytime