I have fallen for Disinfo...

[chris]

In my time researching I have gone through many phases. I am lucky that I am not overly aggresive in my info that I have the freedom to change my opinion on things over time.

At first I was major into ALL theories, I liked everyone alternative and it was all good. The only trouble was that it was very easy to pass me off as crazy.

Then I got into the counter-info crowd that believes everyone is in on it and how David Icke, Alex Jones are crypto-Jews or Temporal co-ajutators (or whatever). I learn a lot of great info which the more mainstream people don’t talk about but I fell into a dark patch where I felt like it was me Vs the world and everyone was stupid and if I found a tiny insignificant detail about someone, I was the better researcher because they were disinfo.

Lastly, I came to my senses. I realised that the infighting in the movement is much less of intelligence operatives but more to do with people trying to leech supporters by spreading gossip and rumours. This has really fucked us up and we need to use our common sense on these issues rather than spouting like you know it all (just as I did).

Most people on this are doing the best they can so if you don’t like them, try to outdo them by spreading more info, do not try to leech supporters or be a leechers-bitch.

Use common sense, the NWO don’t try to ridiculously expose themselves intentionally for a bigger plan. Once the left/right paradigm and false flag terrorism breaks, they are finished. People aren’t so gullible after that.

Agents act like little pussies always bitching on about other researchers and focus on those in the truth movement rather than focusing on sheeple.

What's funny is that now I am looking clearly, I myself get called a sheep when I am the one on a stage from them. I guess there are two polarities, disinfo and counter disinfo and getting to the truth is to vibrate faster between the two.

[hagbard_celine]

I fell for disinfo once: I bought the Doug and Dave hoax.:o

I hope that's the only time I have or will be conned.

[adimon]

I'm glad to hear you're now taking a more rational approach. :)

[adimon]

I fell for disinfo once: I bought the Doug and Dave hoax.:o

I hope that's the only time I have or will be conned.

Hollow Earth, HC? :D:p

[hagbard_celine]

Hollow Earth, HC? :D:p


If I honestly was sure that that wasn't true then I'd say so... really!;)

[hagbard_celine]

I'm glad to hear you're now taking a more rational approach. :)


Yes indeed. I used to be totally irrational and that was why I swallowed the Doug and Dave explaination.;):D

[malvern]

the path of the turth seekers, will take them into many dark areas ... we have to see all before we can find the balance of truth... and only the strong will say that they are wrong and waste nomore time defending what they know to be wrong.... it happens to all

freedom is the truth seeker

[steevo]

Agents act like little pussies always bitching on about other researchers and focus on those in the truth movement rather than focusing on sheeple.


:D Very true Chris.

[mahabaratara]

Go to go to many a place before you can get a handle on it...

Same here...

No more Ashtar stuff...;)

[father ted]

Yes indeed. I used to be totally irrational and that was why I swallowed the Doug and Dave explaination.;):D

I used to be totally rational and fell for what the media, polliticians, official history and official everything, was telling us. Then I became irratianal for a while a bit after reading Icke's books and fell for things like the educate yourself website, love and light new age crap. I ditched all that and am now more rational in an open minded way, more than I used to be anyway.

[cheeney1]

I fell for disinfo once: I bought the Doug and Dave hoax.:o

I hope that's the only time I have or will be conned.


sorry to sound a bit daft whats the doug and dave hoax....:)

[armoured_amazon]

I think we all wander down many paths before we find our Truth.

[lookfar]

I think we all wander down many paths before we find our Truth.

Hmm you're certainly right there! Unfortunately some tend to have a much longer walk than others, lol!;) I try to let my instincts guide me personally & moreoften than not, they lead me in the right direction :)

[armoured_amazon]

Hmm you're certainly right there! Unfortunately some tend to have a much longer walk than others, lol!;) I try to let my instincts guide me personally & moreoften than not, they lead me in the right direction :)

It's the best way, I think :) The most important thing is that we are actually walking, and not just sitting on a rock lol

[chris]

Hmm you're certainly right there! Unfortunately some tend to have a much longer walk than others, lol!;)

That is why I said that I was glad that I never was overly aggressive with the info becuase I could have caused so much strife around me that I would have to be right with my info and jealously guard it. Some people will never tighten their descernment.

It's easy to spot a conspiracy in everything, it takes descernment to find truth in disinfo.

[hagbard_celine]

sorry to sound a bit daft whats the doug and dave hoax....:)

When crop circles first hit the media in the early 80's there was a couple of years when every mainstream TV show featured them. People really took them seriously! Then I settled onto my armchair in front of Central News one night and saw a news report that supposedly explained the entire phenomenon. Two Wiltshire pensioners admitted that they'd been making them. They'd toured the country every night, creating these myterious shpaes in the crop for the world to wonder over the following day. To "prove it" they did a demonstration! I watched the screen as two stocky old men lumbered round a wheatfield with a plank of wood and a chain and made a rough pattern of concentric circles. "Well that's it" I thought. "Mystery solved." Silly me!:rolleyes:

A few years later I saw Andy Thomas being interviewed on Esther Rantzen's chat show Esther. I thought "WHAT!? Is this still going on?" Then I realized how badly I'd been fooled!:mad::o

[cruise4]

Are you telling me Doug and Dave don't make the crop circles?

[lookfar]

That is why I said that I was glad that I never was overly aggressive with the info becuase I could have caused so much strife around me that I would have to be right with my info and jealously guard it. Some people will never tighten their descernment.

It's easy to spot a conspiracy in everything, it takes descernment to find truth in disinfo.

Hi chris :)

I totally agree with you there. With most info that I come across in the conspiracy area, I tend to take onboard what instantly feels right to me & sit on the fence with the rest of it. I'm always open to changing my mind if further information comes along to confirm/convince me otherwise & will also totally admit if I was wrong about anything, I think it's all part of our learning curve really as we all learn from our mistakes.

[hagbard_celine]

Are you telling me Doug and Dave don't make the crop circles?


Of course not. I just said I saw them do one on TV. The problem is that the media were encouraging them to claim that they were making all of them.

[redhead]

I used to be totally rational and fell for what the media, polliticians, official history and official everything, was telling us. Then I became irratianal for a while a bit after reading Icke's books and fell for things like the educate yourself website, love and light new age crap. I ditched all that and am now more rational in an open minded way, more than I used to be anyway.

Can you explain whats disinfo about educate yourself?

Theres many great articles there, orgonite, tesla, mind control etc

[cruise4]

Of course not. I just said I saw them do one on TV. The problem is that the media were encouraging them to claim that they were making all of them.

I was joking hagbard.

[cataleptik]

the path of the turth seekers, will take them into many dark areas ... we have to see all before we can find the balance of truth... and only the strong will say that they are wrong and waste nomore time defending what they know to be wrong.... it happens to all

freedom is the truth seeker


i first enjoyed turth in boulder colorado. a homeless youth who simply introduced himself as an "ombudsman" whipped out a sardine can and a key. rolling back the tin on the top of the can he revealed cannabis magnifica, a potent strain of local turth. we smoked mightily and later, floating on a dense and puffy cloud over the flatirons, the ombudsman and myself discussed recipes and vaporizers. thou has anointed mine head with oil, i said.

hella tite, responded the ombudsman. in a way, one never leaves the flatirons...

[ravenswing]

I definately fell for a lot of disinfo, it is hard to be suspicious of everything, thats why I stopped watching the news and reading newspapers. Since then I have found it easier to think for myself. I do as David says, take a step back, breath and look at it again, I try to avoid any type of knee jerk reaction, thats what they are counting on.

Even now though I am being made to question things I had accepted as fact. For example, watching Dr Judy Woods I am now questioning Dr Steven Jones theories which had me totally convinced he was right about thermite in the WTC.

So I guess I am learning to take nothing at face value and use my instincts more, which I think can only be a good thing.

[father ted]

Can you explain whats disinfo about educate yourself?

Theres many great articles there, orgonite, tesla, mind control etc

The whole thing about sylths, remote viewing, I think they wrote about Shasta, Sedona etc but that could be other websites. It is also christianated (I coin the phrase).

There are great articles there, I just read one the other week (it something David Icke wrote a while ago, maybe on his website), that's disinfo, truth mixed with lies.

[ashyr]

i fell for disinfo once.

i was told it was an ounce but it only eight 19 grams.
=(

[ugizz]

"When In Doubt, Fuck It" ~ John Lennon

[cheeney1]

The Whole World is full of Disinfo .You have to decide for yourself and Decipher The Truth From The Bullshit.................:D:D:D

[hagbard_celine]

I was joking hagbard.

OK. :o

I hear one of them has died.

[cruise4]

Probably from laughing too much :D

Hey... the good ones haven't appeared since he departed have they?

[cataleptik]

do they own the world? THEM, the trilaterals, the cfr, those old bloodlines -- does the queen of england own the auld sod? is it HERS?

what do you think?


because if they DON'T own the world, and just SAY that they do, well, there were some pages skipped in the Book of Reality starting back when Socrates was forced to drink hemlock and no one is thinking about it, Massively Distracted. I think that RAW would know what I mean, I wonder if Hagbard does...

...the argument is that no one OWNS the world, that we belong to the Earth, and that those who THINK they own the world are TOTALLY deluded. Mal-1 might say that that was a relative of Buddhist ideation, and say we all needed five pounds of flax. (Flax is a constipatory aid.)

Because really -- what are we talking about?> what are people looking for information about? There are basically a bunch of Nazis, they are military threateners and they have most people perplexed and terrorized into submission. but they are a tiny minority...we must accept their VERSION of what truth is -- as in; they DO have the divine right to rule as kings: we are lost without them. some may say that is a crock. i think it's a crock missing its cork. it's a crock of shit, leaking -- but until people attain that "unity cognition" that can have people working and thinking together WITHOUT becoming corrupted by the goal of becoming in charge -- WITHOUT being decieved by the wave after wave of bullshit that comes from the ruling classes -- and those who claim they own and have the right to enforce their ownership with guns -

i have a feeling that people will look at this and say 'that makes no sense.'

what did they need information for? that's what's up -- they rule us and they have no right. people deserve to be free, but until people claim freedom, Grayface and his minions will lie and say that we should all be compulsed by Guilt to do what is least enjoyable.

[cataleptik]

http://www.greatdreams.com/eye/dollar.gif
THE BRICKS BENEATH THE EYE ARE EVERYONE BUT THE LUCIFEROUS ELITE WHO RULE. THE EYE REPRESENT, NO, NOT THE MIGHT OF RA, BUT THE CRUEL "BAD GOD" OF THAT EGYPTIAN PANTHEON. NOT MYSTIC OSIRIS-THOTH WHO GAVE LITERACY, BUT VILE SUTEKH-TYPHON WHO DESPISED THE ACT OF LOVE AND SOUGHT TYRANNY AND DOMINION.

they use the six side stars to remind the world that Pharoah had slaves and if it was good enough for Pharoah it was good enough for the Framers. who had slaves in the land of the almost free except for the slaves.

that they were hebrew slaves and hebrew stars is a saying: The Lucifer Rebellion are saying -- as one -- that the God of the Jews is a weak fool and that Lucifer is ALL power.

the dominion of the lie! the dominion of harsh cruelty, the dominion of the cold insincere laugh when someone says 'what about feeding the poor? what about campaign finance reform.'

the eye - the capstone is the elite. the rest of the bricks are everyone else.
in short, it is a few guys bossing billions and billions, who have not yet figured out what to do. i am personally sure that violence is not the answer in and of itself. look how they use it!

[astralburger]

In my time researching I have gone through many phases. I am lucky that I am not overly aggresive in my info that I have the freedom to change my opinion on things over time.

At first I was major into ALL theories, I liked everyone alternative and it was all good. The only trouble was that it was very easy to pass me off as crazy.

Then I got into the counter-info crowd that believes everyone is in on it and how David Icke, Alex Jones are crypto-Jews or Temporal co-ajutators (or whatever). I learn a lot of great info which the more mainstream people don’t talk about but I fell into a dark patch where I felt like it was me Vs the world and everyone was stupid and if I found a tiny insignificant detail about someone, I was the better researcher because they were disinfo.

Lastly, I came to my senses. I realised that the infighting in the movement is much less of intelligence operatives but more to do with people trying to leech supporters by spreading gossip and rumours. This has really fucked us up and we need to use our common sense on these issues rather than spouting like you know it all (just as I did).

Most people on this are doing the best they can so if you don’t like them, try to outdo them by spreading more info, do not try to leech supporters or be a leechers-bitch.

Use common sense, the NWO don’t try to ridiculously expose themselves intentionally for a bigger plan. Once the left/right paradigm and false flag terrorism breaks, they are finished. People aren’t so gullible after that.

Agents act like little pussies always bitching on about other researchers and focus on those in the truth movement rather than focusing on sheeple.

What's funny is that now I am looking clearly, I myself get called a sheep when I am the one on a stage from them. I guess there are two polarities, disinfo and counter disinfo and getting to the truth is to vibrate faster between the two.

You're still coming from an emotional perspective. You can say you're more balanced, but its not integrated into your perspective....you're preachin' absolutes about what is and what can or cannot possibly be. ;)

At least you're aware of your behavior in hindsight, now that scrutiny has to catch up with the present.

[ashyr]

just imagine how powerful i could become if i knew everyword in the english dictionary.

WOW

[cataleptik]

You're still coming from an emotional perspective. You can say you're more balanced, but its not integrated into your perspective....you're preachin' absolutes about what is and what can or cannot possibly be. ;)

At least you're aware of your behavior in hindsight, now that scrutiny has to catch up with the present.
BEWARE of those who tell you not to come from an emotional perspective.
such is the domain of serpents and robots and El Diablo. Emotions are a universal gift to people who can both think AND feel -- and thinking that rejects feeling is the domain of Ariyaman...and numerous are the deceptions of Ariyaman. Emotions are a sign that you are human, and rejecting them, putting them down and silencing them is #1 on the Reptilian/Luciferian Agenda.

have you heard of their mockery of the christ, their hatred of human caring? the goal is for people to suffer in greater and greater misery at the hands of government and secret diabolism -- and just accept their authority instead of "coming from an emotional perspective." i recall SETH used to advise not to be emotional and rely on judgment in those BOOKS...

not a good adviser, Seth.

[astralburger]

BEWARE of those who tell you not to come from an emotional perspective.
such is the domain of serpents and robots and El Diablo. Emotions are a universal gift to people who can both think AND feel -- and thinking that rejects feeling is the domain of Ariyaman...and numerous are the deceptions of Ariyaman. Emotions are a sign that you are human, and rejecting them, putting them down and silencing them is #1 on the Reptilian/Luciferian Agenda.

have you heard of their mockery of the christ, their hatred of human caring? the goal is for people to suffer in greater and greater misery at the hands of government and secret diabolism -- and just accept their authority instead of "coming from an emotional perspective." i recall SETH used to advise not to be emotional and rely on judgment in those BOOKS...

not a good adviser, Seth.

Emotion manifests as thought not yet understood which is why the energetic motion moves.