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heres Bill Cooper in a 45min video on who killed JFK:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-815761371376904961&q=william+cooper+jfk
more videos:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Zapruder+Film
:rolleyes: short version of above video by William Cooper:
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
phoenix1
18-03-2007, 11:09 AM
:rolleyes: short version of above video by William Cooper:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tM8DJ_WjL9Y
God Bless William "Bill" Milton Cooper.
A mega man...and sadly missed. I have his book and seen every lecture on film.
R.I.P Bill...another star in the sky.
Respect is due.
phoenix1
18-03-2007, 11:15 AM
deleted..double post.:o
limelady
19-03-2007, 10:07 AM
Thanks to geo2 for posting this link. I had not seen that particular footage before and I found both the footage and Bill Cooper himself very convinving.
I don't know about anybody else, but I'm sick sure to death of these murdering NWO bastards taking out all the good people. They kill anyone who tries to get the truth out.
How much longer are the people going to just ignore this, or just 'put up with it'?
RIP Bill Cooper
masonic3
19-03-2007, 06:53 PM
Thanks to geo2 for posting this link. I had not seen that particular footage before and I found both the footage and Bill Cooper himself very convinving.
I don't know about anybody else, but I'm sick sure to death of these murdering NWO bastards taking out all the good people. They kill anyone who tries to get the truth out.
How much longer are the people going to just ignore this, or just 'put up with it'?
RIP Bill Cooper
I know what your saying but theres no facts really is there, just what he said she said we have got to do some thing.........?
Is anyone reading a law degree or has done?
eternal_spirit
19-03-2007, 07:21 PM
This is off subject........ Can you change you're avatar m3? before I get annoyed.
Oh Yeah and button you're piehole the pirate has posted alot of sense in this forum, I've yet to read a good post from you.
RIP Bill Cooper a good man amongst shitheads.
masonic3
20-03-2007, 06:22 PM
This is off subject........ Can you change you're avatar m3? before I get annoyed.
Oh Yeah and button you're piehole the pirate has posted alot of sense in this forum, I've yet to read a good post from you.
RIP Bill Cooper a good man amongst shitheads.
Read: and also "eternal_spirit" perhaps we should all be wearing grey?
Yes you can get your scoops from me, will help in any way I can.
I am not here to check on you, why? Why would anyone care what we say on here?
I forgive you "edelweiss pirate" for being nasty, don't leave the forum its not worth it, stay.
I have read alot of your posts to try and rip it out of you but I can't because you do write good posts but sometimes you try to put people down when theres no reason to.
I am a freemason and it should not matter because in the end we all are init together, the day I find out something bad about freemasonry I will post it here and thats a promise.
God bless you edelweiss pirate your ok
i am all i am
20-03-2007, 07:04 PM
Read: and also "eternal_spirit" perhaps we should all be wearing grey?
Yes you can get your scoops from me, will help in any way I can.
I am not here to check on you, why? Why would anyone care what we say on here?
I forgive you "edelweiss pirate" for being nasty, don't leave the forum its not worth it, stay.
I have read alot of your posts to try and rip it out of you but I can't because you do write good posts but sometimes you try to put people down when theres no reason to.
I am a freemason and it should not matter because in the end we all are init together, the day I find out something bad about freemasonry I will post it here and thats a promise.
God bless you edelweiss pirate your ok
These good folk swell our numbers and fill our money-box. Set yourselves to work; these gentlemen must be made to nibble at the bait. . .but this sort of people must always be made to believe that the grade they hev achieved is the last.
- Adam Weishaupt (founder of the illuminati, 1776).
Ahhhhhh..... good old freemasonry !
With LOVE.
kasalt
26-08-2007, 08:22 PM
I wasn't aware that there was a thread on this issue already in this forum. I've already posted this message in the "Cover-ups" forum, but please allow me to repost it here in this one for the benefit of those who might have missed it. Bill Cooper's claims regarding the Kennedy assassination are quite shocking to say the least (I bought into it myself when I first saw it), and I believe that his claims merit some scrutiny.
I'm sure most of you here have seen Bill Cooper's videotaped lectures on Google or Youtube in which Cooper plays a poor quality video of the Kennedy assassination and claims that it was actually Kennedy's driver, secret service agent William Greer, who fired the fatal head shot that killed Kennedy. And in fact, in this poor quality video, it does indeed appear that the driver seems to raise a weapon over his right shoulder and aim it at Kennedy at the very instant he was shot. For a while, I thought it might be true, although I had to wonder why it was that among the throng of spectators lined along the street, apparently no one saw it happen. After all, I had never heard this theory from anyone else before I heard of William Cooper.
Early on in his book, Behold a Pale Horse, Cooper writes:
"On the day that I learned that the Office of Naval Intelligence had participated in the assassination of President John F. Kennedy and that it was the Secret Service agent driving the limo that had shot Kennedy in the head, I went AWOL with no intention of ever returning."
Cooper also writes in Behold that some of the information he was exposed to may well have been government disinformation. Well, the disinformation agents must have had a field day when Cooper went AWOL, because any clear examination of the Zapruder film will reveal that it is actually the forehead and hair of the secret service agent sitting in the passenger's seat next to Greer that we are seeing, and not the hand and gun of Greer. The following video gives ample analysis to prove this point (cautionary note, this video contains profanity and abundant rudeness on the part of the high school student who made it):
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
:) there are more then one video of the the driver-shooting-JFK............
:cool:it was the driver that shot the-kill-shot..............................
:) another video backing-up Bill Cooper...........................
http://www.vydi.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=97
kasalt
01-09-2007, 10:52 PM
Lee Harvey Oswald may or may not have been the gunman, and there may or may not have been a shot fired from the grassy knoll, those things I do not know. What I am convinced about is that William Greer definitely did not fire the killshot to Kennedy's head. That much is clear. There were people standing on both sides of the street watching when the assassination occurred! Why is it that not one of them ever pointed to Greer as the shooter?
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
:)because they were watching JFK as he got his brains blown out...............
just like u have to tell people to watch the fn driver as they watch the video
or they will be looking at Saint JFK........................
:D Question: do you think that they went to the fn Moon with the Apollo-Moon-Program???
;) did u see 'Wag-The-Dog' ???
:cool: did u see 'V-for-Vendetta'???
kasalt
02-09-2007, 01:29 AM
:)because they were watching JFK as he got his brains blown out...............
just like u have to tell people to watch the fn driver as they watch the video
or they will be looking at Saint JFK........................
:D Question: do you think that they went to the fn Moon with the Apollo-Moon-Program???
;) did u see 'Wag-The-Dog' ???
:cool: did u see 'V-for-Vendetta'???
Dude, did you watch the video I just posted to you? You say, "Watch the driver". Well that video clearly shows the driver, and no, he didn't pull a gun and shoot Kennedy. That which appears to be his hand and a gun is in fact the forehead and hair of the other SS agent who is sitting in the front seat, passenger side. All that Greer did do to help with the assassination of Kennedy was to slow the vehicle down so the shooter could get the killshot off. But that's all he did.
:) seems ur 'fixed' in ur view, which is ok but the DRIVER did the SHOT That Killed Saint JFK .... the Thread was on Bill Cooper n his view of the driver shootin Jack, remember { was it Dude } { is that the Tittle, that u like? }......
:cool: would u rather talk about the Real-Lesbian-Sub-Culture on the fn Planet Earth ????????????
Ave Maria ! Let's Chat about the Dykes ! Infinity
{{{ n dear old St Nick, hohohohohohoe }}}}:eek::rolleyes::cool:
kasalt
02-09-2007, 02:50 AM
:cool: would u rather talk about the Real-Lesbian-Sub-Culture on the fn Planet Earth ????????????
Ave Maria ! Let's Chat about the Dykes ! Infinity
Yes I'd much rather talk about that thank you...You start, and I'll follow. :rolleyes:
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We know from frame 312 of the Zapruder film that just after President Kennedy had been hit in the throat he turned at the last second to his left almost facing Jackie. which exposed his right temple to the front of the car. Statements made by seven different Parkland Hospital doctors including Dr. Robert N. McClelland, Dr. Paul Peters and Dr. Charles A. Crenshaw indicate that the original appearance of the wound to Kennedy’s head was a large gaping entry wound to his right temple (left as you face him) and a much larger exit wound in the right rear of his head. A right side head wound is indicated in the statements of Doctors Malcom Perry, Charles Baxter, Robert N. McClelland, William Kemp Clark and M.T. Jenkins, found at this link: http://www.jfklancer.com/3Patients.html
In this overhead view of the limousine and its occupants, the trajectory of a bullet that would cause this kind of wound has been traced backwards to the point of origin, which is the right shoulder of William Greer, the limousine driver. It should also be noted that Dr. McClelland also made testimony to the Warren Commission that the head wound could have been caused by "a handgun fired at close range." Ref: Conspiracy of Silence, Dr. Charles A. Crenshaw, High Treason, Robert J. Groden and Harrison E. Livingstone, and Murder from Within, Fred Newcomb and Perry Adams.
**clip from:***
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/drivergreershotjfk.shtml
great links at this site.............................above :rolleyes:
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I would have to say that the phone call I got from Tyler gave me the "keys to the magic door" (as one friend put it) in researching the real truth of what happened in the 11-22-63 JFK assassination because his father, Fred, went to Dallas in 1968 and talked to witnesses while their memories were still fresh.
Witnesses make the case for the Limousine Driver shooting JFK
On 3-12-92 I interviewed one Fred Newcomb, who researched, along with co-author Perry Adams, a book entitled "Murder from Within," © 1975 derived from original research done in Dallas in 1968 when the memories of witnesses were still fresh.
Mr. Newcomb felt his book made the case for the limousine driver shooting JFK so well that he sent copies of the book to the 1975 Congress and Senate because he felt he would be guilty of "obstruction of justtice" if he did not do so. These are the witnesses whose statement to Mr. Newcomb and sometimes the Warren commission included the words "in the car."
1. Mary Moorman - school teacher standing next to Jean Hill. She said she saw Greer shooting back but thought he was shooting back at the assassin. SOURCE: Warren Commission and taped interview by Fred Newcomb.
2. Jean Hill - Jean Hill saw what happened too, but when she tried to bring up the subject of a gun being fired in the car, Senator Arlen Spector (a 33rd degree Mason) would change the subject or say "it's time for a cup of coffee."
3. Austin P. Miller - Texas Louisiana Freight Bureau, who stood on the railway overpass overlooking Elm Street was asked by Arlen Spector where the shots came from: His reply was "from right there in the car." Senator Spector just went on to the next question, never asking Miller any specifics. From: Warren Report, New York Times edition, p. 82.
4. Clinton J. Hill. Jacqueline Kennedy's bodyguard reports in Vol. II, pp 138-139 of the Warren Commission Volumes: "I jumped from the car, realizing that something was wrong, and ran to the presidential limousine. Just as I reached it, there was another sound. I think I described it in my statement as though someone was shooting a revolver into a hard object...it seemed to have some type of echo."
5. Hugh Betzner - Had picture published in Life magazine and was standing right next to the drivers side of the motorcade: He saw a gun in the hand of one of the secret service agents and heard a sound "like firecrackers going off in the car."Link to Betzner’s official statement: http://www.jfk-online.com/betzner.html Source: taped interview with Fred Newcomb.
6. Senator Ralph Yarborough - 3rd car back "Smelled gunpowder in the car." (statement made to press but not to Warren Commission) He was challenged by Newcomb on the phone and he then said "I must have smelled it coming down from the book depository"
Nose witnesses
It is reasonable to assume that if a gun were fired in the limousine, then there would be the smell of gunsmoke. There was and Mr. Newcomb located 6 "nose witnesses":
1.Senator Ralph Yarborough
2. Patrolman Joe W. Smith
3. Congressman Ray Roberts
4. Thomas C. Clifford
5. Elizabeth Cabell, wife of Dallas Mayor.
6. Robert W. Jackson
from: http://educate-yourself.org/cn/drivergreershotjfk.shtml
{{{ hope u saw the above post2 }}}}
amadeus
05-09-2007, 12:55 PM
Cooper also writes in Behold that some of the information he was exposed to may well have been government disinformation. Well, the disinformation agents must have had a field day when Cooper went AWOL, because any clear examination of the Zapruder film will reveal that it is actually the forehead and hair of the secret service agent sitting in the passenger's seat next to Greer that we are seeing, and not the hand and gun of Greer.
I agree. I also at first believed Bill C. was right. But after examining all the available versions of the Z. film I must say that in my opinion it's clear that it's the forehead of the agent leaning back. But I don't blame Bill of course, everybody makes mistakes.
But a TOTALLY different aspect is the question if the Zapruder film is a complete hoax - artificially enhanced or made up. This I don't know.
:) just fn amazing how 'arm-chair' 'experts' can so-quickly dismiss the work of many years of other serious re-searchers, amazing..................did u read the whole story or stories?????
:cool:Alan Watt, one of the most-serious researchers has said that it was the 'driver' and a case of the 'big-boys/girls' right in your-face, laughing-at-you as they send you down all the wrong-trails, while at the same-time, the video right there in front of your face, showing the-driver-killing saint/god JFK...............
amadeus
05-09-2007, 05:02 PM
:) just fn amazing how 'arm-chair' 'experts' can so-quickly dismiss the work of many years of other serious re-searchers, amazing..................did u read the whole story or stories?????
It's nice you being so passionate about this, but aren't you dismissing the other views presented here also? I mean, I'm not saying there wasn't anything strange in the JFK murder and I really love Bill Cooper for the work he did. But if we are talking about the Zapruder film there's clearly a possibility that the reflection we see is from the agent leaning back. Take a look at THIS (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6684334708150917249&q=zapruder+film&total=173&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0) stable clip from the same event. Don't you think there's at least a possibility that Bill got this one wrong?
Keep digging for the truth! I'm on your side - believe it or not. :)
kasalt
08-09-2007, 03:01 PM
Did the Limousine driver shoot JFK?
For years people have been fooled by low resolution, inferior copies of the Zapruder film -- finding reflections or shadows that are much more clear in the better copies available of this historic film.
Check the following clips and photos to see what actually happens:
http://www.jfklancer.com/greer.html
:) 'they' been 'spinnin'-it'-since-11/22/63....thats comin-up 2---44yrs...
:cool: Cooper { bloodline } got-em ..............
:rolleyes: the fn 'driver' shot { the-kill }-shot} JFK { bloodline }...............
Ave Maria ! { bloodline } got~us~all
{{{ Merovingian }} http://www.thefreedictionary.com/merovingian
7forever
02-10-2010, 06:07 PM
Bill Cooper stated the obvious but I proved alteration and Greer's guilt beyond any doubt.
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7forever
08-10-2010, 01:37 PM
http://www.assassinationresearch.com/zfilm/
The driver places gun in his left hand 4 seconds before he fires fatal shot.
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This clip shows the whole shooting sequence. The film simply pans upward when Greer moves the gun to near his right shoulder. The crop upward is obvious when pointed out.
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During the shooting sequence is obvious.
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318 is the fake reflection and 319 is the physical gun bleached in white.
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7forever
08-10-2010, 01:39 PM
Greer throws gun to floor after assassination and Roy Kellerman reaches forward to grab it. As we can clearly see, 319 is an object while 318 is pure fakery.
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case closed
stopthemadness
08-10-2010, 03:27 PM
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case closed
It doesn't matter HOW Kennedy was killed. It's more important WHO killed him.
The Zapruder (a Jewish guy) film has been thoroughly trounced as a fabrication of the CIA (the Jewish Secret Police for the USA).
Israel ordered the hit on Kennedy. JFK wanted to send nuclear inspectors to Israel, close the Federal Reserve (Zionist extortion racket), end Vietnam (a Zionist drug producing country), and force Castro (a crypto-Jew Marrano) out of power. All of these were reason enough to assassinate him.
He was also working for peace in the Middle East. How dare he ...
Zionist (and possible Crypto-Jew) Lyndon Johnson "forgot" to send nuclear inspectors to Israel, overturned JFK's order to dissolve the Fed, escalated Vietnam, conveniently dropped the Cuba/Castro issue, and overlooked Israeli expansion during the 1967 war (the same war where Israel attacked the U.S.S. Liberty).
END OF STORY
7forever
08-10-2010, 05:34 PM
The single most important thing in this case is understanding that Greer fired the fatal shot which proves it was an inside job. Jfk's own government he was in charge of, conspired to kill him and ultimately used the secret service to fire the kill shot.
7forever
08-10-2010, 10:47 PM
http://www.rense.com/general86/rebut.htm
This conpsiracy kook who promotes obvious nonsense published an article (just a few months ago) that blatantly lies about a very important fact in the film. GREER HAS BOTH HIS HANDS OFF THE WHEEL 4 seconds before he fires the fatal shot. He also places the gun in his left hand. This obvious truth is so scary to these kooks that they publish articles as recent as May, 2010. They are dreading the day when at least alot of people find out this shocking truth.
I have studied first-generation clear prints of the Zapruder film and it is apparent that while it may be questionable as to why Greer turned and looked back at Kennedy and then could not recall that fact for the Warren Commission, at no time did his two hands leave the steering wheel of the limousine. There are plenty of real conspiracies out there without dragging this old wheezer up again.
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7forever
08-10-2010, 10:49 PM
218 • BEHOLD A PALE HORSE William Cooper
public and perpetuate the cover-up.
I called Bob Grodin and accepted his challenge. I invited him to
appear with me at Beverly Hills High School and show his film. I would
show my film. The audience would decide. He refused. He refused
because he knows what I know, that the audience would boo him out of
town. Grodin knows that Greer shot Kennedy because he is part of the
cover-up.
Bob Grodin is the same Bob Grodin who claims to be the world's
foremost independent photo-interpretation expert. Bob Grodin has NO
photographic education whatsoever. He has never worked with photography.
Bob Grodin has never been a photographic interpreter in his life.
He has been lying to the public about his credentials for all these years and
no one even checked; not even Congress checked his credentials when they
hired him. Do you really think that was an accident? I HAVE A DEGREE
IN PHOTOGRAPHY.
Bob Grodin is the same Bob Grodin who was hired by the House Select
Committee on Assassinations in 1976. He is the same Bob Grodin who
blatantly lied to the committee and told them that the driver, William Greer,
never took his hands off the wheel. His job is to write books and confuse
you. His job is to maintain the position that the government lied and that
there was a conspiracy. His job is also to prevent you from knowing the
truth about who did kill the President. You cannot welcome the New World
Order if you have faith in your government. You WILL have faith in your
government if you learn that Greer killed Kennedy on orders of the Illuminati
and that it had nothing to do with the legal, Constitutional
government. Did you know that the man who was in charge of the Secret
Service at the time of the assassination became the man in charge of
security for the Rockefeller family upon his retirement? Well, now you
know. You should also know that Bob Grodin is a friend of Leslie Watkins,
and it is Bob Grodin's name that Watkins uses as the alias of the astronaut
cited in Alternative 003. Did you know that when Ricky White made
appearances on talk radio across the country to say that his father killed
Kennedy, that Bob Grodin accompanied him? Did you know that every
time a caller asked Ricky White a question, Grodin answered for him? Do
you really believe that is a coincidence? Ricky White's father did not kill
Kennedy.
For years I have been telling people and audiences about the discrepancies
between the doctors' reports in Dallas and the autopsy report
made at Bethesda Naval Hospital. I have revealed that the wounds were
tampered with and changed. I have been telling the world that the body
was removed from its casket aboard the plane and was taken out the galley
Takes both hands off wheel. There's a good possibility Groden's lies were televised and recorded. I believe he testified twice.
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7forever
10-10-2010, 03:26 PM
jfk assassination films-orville nix - Video Dailymotion
Nix film close-up shows Greer's arm crossing over
I got this gif from this clip. Start it at 1:09 and see Greer quickly moving his left arm over his shoulder in unison with the headshot. The nix film was not shown close-up but when this sequence is zoomed in on the limo this whopper is revealed. The goons covered those movements with fakery in the zfilm but could not or didn't bother with the nix film.
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THE FAKE GREY STREAK covered Greer's arm movement in the zfilm and the nix film proves that alteration beyond any doubt. Case Closed, finally.
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