View Full Version : Do you Believe in God - Allah !! and What is death
jagalman
18-03-2007, 07:49 AM
i've been asking this question so much lately, i know that there is a supreme power who created this life and this universe!! it doesnt come in coincidence!!
i am not telling that God or Allah do not exist!! but i am someone and i have the right to ask this questions! If (God-Allah) there why he doesnt show him self and stop WAR'S from happenings!! why there will be always sacrifice for human's for the one and only THE GOD-ALLAH!
What is this life all about?
Why we are here?
What's our purpose in living?
What is death and why we die and is there heaven or hell after or we transport to a different body, and life keep on going and going!!
Really i am asking this quetions so much and really sometimes it get me depressed from not doing anything in life, because all i see within my eyes a system of conspiracy's and propaganda's!!
i've been asking this question so much lately, i know that there is a supreme power who created this life and this universe!! it doesnt come in coincidence!!
i am not telling that God or Allah do not exist!! but i am a someone and i have the right to ask this questions! If (God-Allah) there why he doesnt show him self and stop WAR'S from happenings!! why there will be always sacrifice for human's for the one and only THE GOD-ALLAH!
What is this life all about?
Why we are here?
What's our purpose in living?
What is death and why we die and is there heaven or hell after or we transport to a different body, and life keep on going and going!!
:EmoticonBoss:
Really i am asking this quetions so much and really sometimes it get me depressed from not doing anything in life, because all i see within my eyes a system of conspiracy's and propaganda's!!
:EmoticonLame:
i'm 47 years old, and i have none of the answers for you. only you do.
"All paths lead nowhere, follow the path with heart." - Carlos Castenada
rossus
18-03-2007, 09:44 AM
If (God-Allah) there why he doesnt show him self and stop WAR'S from happenings!! why there will be always sacrifice for human's for the one and only THE GOD-ALLAH!
maybe "god" prefers to leave us in our self-created-mess to learn from...
What is this life all about?
Why we are here?
What's our purpose in living?
i don't know, maybe our life here is just to experience it... both the good and the bad. not resisting the experience makes life a lot easier :)
What is death and why we die and is there heaven or hell after or we transport to a different body, and life keep on going and going!!
Really i am asking this quetions so much and really sometimes it get me depressed from not doing anything in life, because all i see within my eyes a system of conspiracy's and propaganda's!!
yes the time we are living in, with nature being destroyed and people going more and more crazy... it's not always easy.
even though it may seem like there is only darkness around you, have faith in the light. light is love, and love is everywhere.
maybe you have not seen with your own eyes this truth, because your attention is focused outward... to what is happening around you.
it is encouraged to notice yourself...
feel what feelings in your heart are being born and are dying each day. feel the pain, feel the joy. don't push away the bad, and don't try constantly reach out for the positive. good things they come and go. the good news is that you are living in a loving universe, and when things look bad... by trusting in life, life will comfort you with it's love.
not even pain is a "bad" thing. each feeling is blessed with love, if only you listen deeply enough.
listening is the key.
you must have an open heart to listen. you must trust in love, otherwise love cannot come to you.
trust/faith will open the door that is your heart.
the situation u are in is hopeless.
a world with mad leaders, a brainwashed population, a body vulnerable to disease and an ego that always keeps you in a state of unhappiness because it always finds things to dramatize about.
don't pay too much attention to the thoughts, it will not find you the solution to your deepest problem. it makes it seem like the solution is out there... but it's not outthere. it is in you. it is you.
the mind, and thoughts can never replace an open heart... replace love.
listen to that deepest longing for love in your heart,
and surrender to the hopelessness that love is the only solution to all your problems.
when you do this you might be able to open your heart a bit more, and regain trust in love, trust in life, trust in trusting, trust in living, trust in experiencing...
don't be afraid :)
i am all i am
18-03-2007, 02:07 PM
i'm 47 years old, and i have none of the answers for you. only you do.
"All paths lead nowhere, follow the path with heart." - Carlos Castenada
"All paths lead now...here, follow the path with heart."
You had the answer Tru3.
You merely required a bit of space.
With LOVE.
_______________________________________
WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.
"All paths lead now...here, follow the path with heart."
You had the answer Tru3.
You merely required a bit of space.
With LOVE.
_______________________________________
WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.
lol that don juan, he's a tricky juan! :rolleyes:
seanx
18-03-2007, 02:26 PM
why he doesnt show him self and stop WAR'S from happenings!! why there will be always sacrifice for human's for the one and only THE GOD-ALLAH!
Maybe it's all a game - that we have all FORGOT we were playing
- and now, you are right it has turned into a nightmare.
Edward Munich's painting 'The scream' depicts what it is like when it
suddenly hits you that this that this 5-sense world may be all that
there is.
But you're not alone. We're all the one consciouness trapped in this
same illusion so we all experience the same thing.
At some stage, we'll all face the same ultimate terror.
But what if it is all just a game - an illusion that we have created
for ourselves an eternity ago - to have some fun- but then
somewhere along the way, we forget this - and started taking
it for real ..and nightmare began.
I mean illusion not in the sense that the world doesn't exist - but it's
not real in the sense that it is only energy, at this moment of time
taking sharp in one form.
A table before you is real, in a relative state, but in an ultimate sense,
it's not. Where will it be a hundred years from now? it's atoms may be a
bridge or pipe.
In many ways, it's like as kids we played cowboys and Indians - shooting and
pretending we were dead.
Imagine for a spilt moment, we thought the game was real - we'd
start feeling terrified, but your mother looking at you wouldn't be worried
or concerned.
She'd know, maybe like God it wasn't real, so she wouldn't get involved.
She'd know you'll SOON WAKE UP - and start laughing again when you
realize how foolish you were for a split second - thinking the game was
real.
So maybe that why things aren't as bad as they seem.
It's a pity Edward Munich's never decided to look at the world in
this way, it would be fascinating to see how he would have
painted 'The Joy'
tinmenace
18-03-2007, 03:12 PM
..supreme power who created this life and this universe...
Yeah, it's not some dude with a white beard living in the clouds with fierce power. It's the infinite consciousness that resides in all of us and everything around us.
...If (God-Allah) there why he doesnt show him self and stop WAR'S from happenings!!
Well, since it's in all of us and all around us, it's up to US to stop the wars and to make peace, and we do this by taking back our power. Like Einstein said: "Nothing will end war unless the people themselves refuse to go to war..."
What is this life all about?
Why we are here?
What's our purpose in living?
Whoa! Just relax. You're trying to rationalize everything with your head. You need some quiet time to get in touch with your deeper self in order to answer those questions. The answer is different for each person.
What is death and why we die
Well the physical form ages (current knowledge). It was designed that way. Our consciousness is infinite and we are all one. Embrace that idea and just feel how good it feels to know that you are not alone.
it get me depressed from not doing anything in life, because all i see within my eyes a system of conspiracy's and propaganda's!!
You are feeling what a lot of people are feeling. Waiting for something but it's not coming quick enough. Am I right? Feeling like something needs to be done, but what? Right? All this energy you're using fretting over it....use it positively (you have a ton of energy from what I see)...imagine peace....insist on it with your heart, mind and consciousness. Sit quietly, free from outside interruptions (go into the mountains if you have to) and just visualize an end to conspiracy, corruption and propaganda. Think it into being. You will feel sooo much better afterwards because right now, you have all this energy and you don't know what to do with it. You're all frustrated and anxious. Release that energy in a positive way into the world. Think things into being. When you're done, you'll sleep like a log and you'll wake up feeling so much better. You'll be much clearer.
;)
jagalman
18-03-2007, 08:39 PM
You are feeling what a lot of people are feeling. Waiting for something but it's not coming quick enough. Am I right? Feeling like something needs to be done, but what? Right? All this energy you're using fretting over it....use it positively (you have a ton of energy from what I see)...imagine peace....insist on it with your heart, mind and consciousness. Sit quietly, free from outside interruptions (go into the mountains if you have to) and just visualize an end to conspiracy, corruption and propaganda. Think it into being. You will feel sooo much better afterwards because right now, you have all this energy and you don't know what to do with it. You're all frustrated and anxious. Release that energy in a positive way into the world. Think things into being. When you're done, you'll sleep like a log and you'll wake up feeling so much better. You'll be much clearer.
;)
Salut!! :) :) cheers!! that's me, but i think not only me like that, most people have same question's but they have fear of asking, some fear come's from religion it self!!
tinmenace
18-03-2007, 09:42 PM
fear come's from religion it self!!
Exactly. That's its purpose!
neondestiny
19-03-2007, 12:01 AM
Jagalman, there is really nothing I can add to this thread that hasn't already been said here, except for brightest of blessings to you, on your journey to your own enlightenment.
Neon xxx
You are feeling what a lot of people are feeling. Waiting for something but it's not coming quick enough. Am I right? Feeling like something needs to be done, but what? Right? All this energy you're using fretting over it....use it positively (you have a ton of energy from what I see)...imagine peace....insist on it with your heart, mind and consciousness. Sit quietly, free from outside interruptions (go into the mountains if you have to) and just visualize an end to conspiracy, corruption and propaganda. Think it into being. You will feel sooo much better afterwards because right now, you have all this energy and you don't know what to do with it. You're all frustrated and anxious. Release that energy in a positive way into the world. Think things into being. When you're done, you'll sleep like a log and you'll wake up feeling so much better. You'll be much clearer.
i know sometimes i feel like this:
http://www.beltbuckleshop.com/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/1912pc.jpg
i've also given in to the temptation to gaze at my navel (which i still do, but i also do other things now! :)
it's perfectly natural to feel this way. the old "truths" don't work anymore, because more and more people are discovering they are part of the lie. a new, more inclusive context is needed.
somebody recently posted a link to montalk.net . good site.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1878&highlight=montalk.net
check it out. happy hunting!
rcrist
19-03-2007, 05:02 AM
I am completely confused on religion aswell
I am or used to be a good and proper Christian. When I used to think about the bible and ideology of christianity, the existence of a supernatural being (God) didnt matter. I viewed the bible as a giude a way of life for society and individuals. If it was written by man or by God it was a system created for mankind and civilisation. That was my core value belief system what I stood for and what I believed in. No supernatural rubbish. Then I saw a video of David Icke talking about Babylon and that the whole system had existed before and it was the bloody Illuminati!
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8469389811298138021&q=david+icke+babylon
I already knew about the Illuminati and my view was that theyre jewish and whenever David Icke was talking about reptiles he really meant jews, that made sense. Now, although my anti zionism is still alive and kicking, I dont know what to believe if Christianity is not real :(
David Icke is either picking up on a few things really going on then using them in his conman performance, or hes totally right and alien Reptoids run the world and we live in the film, The Matrix.
I am completely confused on religion aswell
I am or used to be a good and proper Christian. When I used to think about the bible and ideology of christianity, the existence of a supernatural being (God) didnt matter. I viewed the bible as a giude a way of life for society and individuals. If it was written by man or by God it was a system created for mankind and civilisation. That was my core value belief system what I stood for and what I believed in. No supernatural rubbish. Then I saw a video of David Icke talking about Babylon and that the whole system had existed before and it was the bloody Illuminati!
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8469389811298138021&q=david+icke+babylon
I already knew about the Illuminati and my view was that theyre jewish and whenever David Icke was talking about reptiles he really meant jews, that made sense. Now, although my anti zionism is still alive and kicking, I dont know what to believe if Christianity is not real :(
David Icke is either picking up on a few things really going on then using them in his conman performance, or hes totally right and alien Reptoids run the world and we live in the film, The Matrix.
i prefer to think of it as zionism being distinct from judaism. the sephardic jews have been discriminated against by the ashkenazi since the founding of israel. they have fought back and made gains, like african americans here. there are jews against zionism. a few israeli officers have stood down, at great personal cost.
at least in israel there is a voice of dissent; in the u.s. it's total moral paralysis and degenerative fear of loss. it's like the entire jewish community and much of the middle class in this country are hypnotized. because of their absolute refusal to at least change the interpretive context of the holocaust, they have no choice but to be in complete denial about israel's true role in world affairs, especially mossad.
jagalman
19-03-2007, 08:03 AM
i prefer to think of it as zionism being distinct from judaism. the sephardic jews have been discriminated against by the ashkenazi since the founding of israel. they have fought back and made gains, like african americans here. there are jews against zionism. a few israeli officers have stood down, at great personal cost.
at least in israel there is a voice of dissent; in the u.s. it's total moral paralysis and degenerative fear of loss. it's like the entire jewish community and much of the middle class in this country are hypnotized. because of their absolute refusal to at least change the interpretive context of the holocaust, they have no choice but to be in complete denial about israel's true role in world affairs, especially mossad.
tru3, i would like you to chek this thread i made!!
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1947
Cheers!!
bigus_dickus
19-03-2007, 03:54 PM
What is this life all about?
living
Why we are here?
to live
What's our purpose in living?
living is the ultimate purpose
What is death and why we die
because we believe so
and is there heaven or hell after
no death, no heaven, no hell.
or we transport to a different body, and life keep on going and going!!
when the leaves of the tree fall, they become food for the tree's roots, so that the tree can have new leaves.
Really i am asking this quetions so much and really sometimes it get me depressed from not doing anything in life, *be*cause* all i see within my eyes a system of conspiracy's and propaganda's!!
well, i suppose you know what to do not to get depressed then.
tinmenace
19-03-2007, 04:17 PM
I already knew about the Illuminati and my view was that theyre jewish and whenever David Icke was talking about reptiles he really meant jews, that made sense. Now, although my anti zionism is still alive and kicking, I dont know what to believe if Christianity is not real :(
Yeah, there's a difference between Jewish and Zionist. Don't get them mixed up, ok?
No, he doesn't mean that the Reptilian bloodlines are Jewish. The Queen of England is reptilian and so is the Bush cartel, and they aren't Jewish.
And, sorry dear, but Christianity is not real :( , but keep searching and you'll find the truth. Have you read any of David's books?
rcrist
19-03-2007, 05:24 PM
Ive dont alot of reserch on jewish history and the Talmud. Judaism as a whole is a very nasty religion but ofcourse its the extreamist jews that are the problem, not the average joe jew so I dont dislike every jew on the planet. When you think about the world dont think of supernatural things (its stupid). So if you take actual reptoids out of the equation who are they? hmm
And, sorry dear, but Christianity is not real , but keep searching and you'll find the truth. Have you read any of David's books?
Ive just discovered David Icke and only watched a couple of videos. I will read some of his books but, hes very dodgy if you ask me. I still havent made up my mind on christianity Im going to find out about the Babylon story for myself.
tinmenace
19-03-2007, 05:29 PM
hes very dodgy if you ask me
You haven't read any of his books, and probably none of his newsletters, I'm curious on what do you base this statement?
Surely not everyone else's opinions?
kromagg
19-03-2007, 11:58 PM
Well, s/he's seen some of his videos which imo have the same basic information as previous videos and most of his books, so I guess s/he's allowed to make that judgement. If s/he's seen a full video, that is...
tinmenace
20-03-2007, 12:34 AM
Well, s/he's seen some of his videos which imo have the same basic information as previous videos and most of his books, so I guess s/he's allowed to make that judgement. If s/he's seen a full video, that is...
I disagree completely. The information in "And the truth shall set you free", for example, is so concentrated, the only way to absorb it would be in book form.
I don't think you can understand everything David is trying to say by watching a few videos. No way. There are tentacles in every direction and each of those have tentacles, and each of those have rabbit holes that you have to explore yourself. I think the videos are a good supplement to the books but the books are the key to understanding his research.
But, judging from your quick rebuttal, you agree that David is dodgy? Or, is it that you haven't read his books either?
kromagg
20-03-2007, 03:38 PM
Aw, hell no. David seems like a stand up guy. But I've seen most if not all of the videos and read one of the books and whilst some are more detailed than others, the messages, to me, seem to be similar, which is why I'm saying the previous poster has the right to have an opinion. If they have studied Icke's work.
i am all i am
20-03-2007, 03:59 PM
Ive dont alot of reserch on jewish history and the Talmud. Judaism as a whole is a very nasty religion but ofcourse its the extreamist jews that are the problem, not the average joe jew so I dont dislike every jew on the planet. When you think about the world dont think of supernatural things (its stupid). So if you take actual reptoids out of the equation who are they? hmm
Ive just discovered David Icke and only watched a couple of videos. I will read some of his books but, hes very dodgy if you ask me. I still havent made up my mind on christianity Im going to find out about the Babylon story for myself.
G'day Rcist, welcome to the forum.
Suggested reading in regards to christianity.
'The Bible Fraud'
'The secret in the Bible'
'The Crucifixion of Truth'
'The Twin Deception'
- Tony Bushby.
Happy reading. ....and the truth shall set you free.
With LOVE.
_______________________________________
WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.
unicorn
20-03-2007, 04:32 PM
Hi rcrist... I dont know what to believe if Christianity is not real Don't let fear hold you back from finding your truth in this world... you are GOD yourself, which religions deny. I was brought up Roman Catholic & boy, all you gotta do is read the bible to realise it was written by man, not god. It makes NO sense at all, & millions of people are following these teachings, (which blasphemously quote Jesus) without having any idea as to the meanings that are hidden within it. These books were written to enslave mankind, to disconnect him from God.. this is blasphemy.
But don't take our word for it, do some research & see what other people have found. The link that Christianity is based on Egypitan texts which are based on Sumerian & Babylonian writings is nothing new, read 'Genesis of the Grail Kings' by Lawrence Gardener for more info on this. I also highly recommend you watch 'What the Bleep Do We Know' asap! Very inspiring...
I still havent made up my mind on christianity
Perhaps start your research here about how this religion came into being, after tens of thousands of followers of Christ's teachings were killed for hundreds of years after his death by the people that formed the 'official' religion. Why are there only 4 gospels in the Bible? Who chose them & why? Why are the others denied, including the Gospel of Judas & the Gospel of Mary Magdalene? Why did the Vatican keep the Cumran Scrolls hidden for 50 years?
Even the Bible itself will crucify Christianity... 'and the gods came down' ... notice something unusual here??!! Ummmmmm...
And if Jesus was made in the image of God, then god is the image of man, so how did he reproduce all on his own, surely he'd need a Goddess? :eek:
Read 'Conversations with God', if you wanna know God more closely! ;)
unicorn
20-03-2007, 04:48 PM
What is this life all about?
Why we are here?
What's our purpose in living?
Here you go, Jagalman... read the end post by I am all I am & enjoy!
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1793&page=3
Says it all really....
eyedontbelieveu
19-04-2007, 03:28 PM
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