ridding my body of satan - fasting?

[somethinganonymous]

Hi there. Just a quick story of my life: For an odd 22 years, I've sinned, lied, cheated, stolen, gone-a-whoring, been arrogant and ignorant... Then one day, (after a couple of years use of marijuana) I just said to myself, no more lies... And I've kept that promise to a certain degree (I can count 2 or 3 dishonesties in the last year and a half)... But to my shock, my health has deteriorated in this period. I've lost more than 40kg, (have not changed my way of life in any way, no more excercise, no diet etc.), I have trouble sleeping, and I have this parasite paranoia, as if there's a HUGE reptile, a worm living and breathing inside my body. I have parasite sensations throughout my body as well, itching skin, small wormlike substances "crawling" out my eye-canals, itching ears and nose, constant cold-like feeling, with coughing and sneezing. I've stopped the marijuana use and also stopped drinking, but my health doesn't seem to imporove.

The doctors keeps stealing my blood and urine and also numerable stool-samples, but they all come up negative for whatever they test for (parasites, HIV, diabetes, bacterias, etc. etc. etc. etc.)

Then one day, I read this religios (I'm not religios, and never have been, I think, but I'm not sure. Never attended church and believes the church to be more corrupting than good.) text - The Essene Gospel of Peace... My body was literally shaking, with pulsing energy as I read the text, my breathing was became short and intense... It was frightening, as I've never experienced anything like it. But the thing is; In this text is discribed Satan manifesting himself in the sick and mamed as a multitude of worms and other abdominations... It fits my intuition of my medical condition, for which no doctor seems to help (I've been to countless doctors and taken countless tests)... As a side note: I've tried various anti-parasite cures (herbal ones bought off the internet), and they all seem to help, to a certain degree, but none has cured me. Las week I ate 300 pills of Co-enzyme Q10, after one Dr. Hulda Clark recommended it for its anti-parasite functions... I could literally hear the worm inside of me squeeching, but he's not dead YET. Anyway, in teh text I read, it said I had to go to nature and fast to redeem my soul and body from Satan, and surprising as it may sound, I actually believe it. But here's the catch; There's freezing temperatures outside, with snow and ice, and I fear for my life, freezing to death, if I'm to go out to nature and live without food and shelter for three weeks. So my question to you guys; Any advice? I'm getting desperate, as you might understand, hence I'm posting this post on the DavidIcke forum, LOL. But some of you seem so knowledgeable and wise, and I was hoping for some, any advice. Thanks

PS: If I am to fast, how do I go about it?

Love to all

[pleasuredome]

well, good luck in what you are trying to acheive. i think you must be on the right track so far, as it seems that you are using your intuition on this and drawing to you the right info for you.

i dont know much about fasting, but if you believe you have a non-physical parasite in you then you could try visualisation to draw energy out of the parasite and back into yourself. i've done this myself with parasitic entities that seem to latch onto people temporarily, and they soon shift. but nevertheless, you should go with what feels right with you.

[somethinganonymous]

well, good luck in what you are trying to acheive. i think you must be on the right track so far, as it seems that you are using your intuition on this and drawing to you the right info for you.

i dont know much about fasting, but if you believe you have a non-physical parasite in you then you could try visualisation to draw energy out of the parasite and back into yourself. i've done this myself with parasitic entities that seem to latch onto people temporarily, and they soon shift. but nevertheless, you should go with what feels right with you.

Oh no, I DO believe he is very physical in nature... I've even had him almost crawl out of me one day, when I was taking a shower. He crawled up my throat, but didn't exit. I freaked out, paniced and cried for help... But the thing is, no x-ray or doctor's test has proven him to exist... The doctors think I'm mad, which I might be, I don't know... (how could I?) I can even hear him at night times, eating and farting and whatever he does... It sickens me, and makes me depressed. I just hope the answer will come one day, as I'm on a path to enlightenment, but feel more and more and more ignorant and lost... Anyway, anbody here tried fasting? And can give me a few pointers...? Thanks

[pleasuredome]

to those that feel them, sometimes parasitic entities can make itself feel very physical... but it's totally up to you on how you view it. :)

[psychicdefender]

OK, you've been doing these things for a long time and are now fighting the effects by giving up your old ways. What you are experiencing is the negative attachments or entity fighting back. But it CANNOT WIN this fight, you own your body and it is your decision how you use it and interact with others. It DOES NOT BELONG where you are.

Fasting is a drastic measure and usually done by mystics/yogis/devouts as a purge/act of devotion/way to focus on the spirit but only when they are in good health. Your diet and health are important, eat well and regularly, drink water. Focus on enjoying the nutrition the food provides. Many people on this forum have been through similar experinces and come through it with more insight than they had before.

Pray (I suggest for strength, support and release from fear). Steer clear of the heavy mystical texts for a month or two (they can be confusing because of their use of language) and read stuff written in plain English (or Norweigen) The Gospels are a good start if you are Christian based.

God bless you, peace, light and understanding surround you, I'll be praying for you. Please feel free to PM me if you need to.

Big love,

Psychicdefender.

[wildheartx]

Hi there. Just a quick story of my life: For an odd 22 years, I've sinned, lied, cheated, stolen, gone-a-whoring, been arrogant and ignorant... Then one day, (after a couple of years use of marijuana) I just said to myself, no more lies... And I've kept that promise to a certain degree (I can count 2 or 3 dishonesties in the last year and a half)... But to my shock, my health has deteriorated in this period. I've lost more than 40kg, (have not changed my way of life in any way, no more excercise, no diet etc.), I have trouble sleeping, and I have this parasite paranoia, as if there's a HUGE reptile, a worm living and breathing inside my body. I have parasite sensations throughout my body as well, itching skin, small wormlike substances "crawling" out my eye-canals, itching ears and nose, constant cold-like feeling, with coughing and sneezing. I've stopped the marijuana use and also stopped drinking, but my health doesn't seem to imporove.

The doctors keeps stealing my blood and urine and also numerable stool-samples, but they all come up negative for whatever they test for (parasites, HIV, diabetes, bacterias, etc. etc. etc. etc.)

Then one day, I read this religios (I'm not religios, and never have been, I think, but I'm not sure. Never attended church and believes the church to be more corrupting than good.) text - The Essene Gospel of Peace... My body was literally shaking, with pulsing energy as I read the text, my breathing was became short and intense... It was frightening, as I've never experienced anything like it. But the thing is; In this text is discribed Satan manifesting himself in the sick and mamed as a multitude of worms and other abdominations... It fits my intuition of my medical condition, for which no doctor seems to help (I've been to countless doctors and taken countless tests)... As a side note: I've tried various anti-parasite cures (herbal ones bought off the internet), and they all seem to help, to a certain degree, but none has cured me. Las week I ate 300 pills of Co-enzyme Q10, after one Dr. Hulda Clark recommended it for its anti-parasite functions... I could literally hear the worm inside of me squeeching, but he's not dead YET. Anyway, in teh text I read, it said I had to go to nature and fast to redeem my soul and body from Satan, and surprising as it may sound, I actually believe it. But here's the catch; There's freezing temperatures outside, with snow and ice, and I fear for my life, freezing to death, if I'm to go out to nature and live without food and shelter for three weeks. So my question to you guys; Any advice? I'm getting desperate, as you might understand, hence I'm posting this post on the DavidIcke forum, LOL. But some of you seem so knowledgeable and wise, and I was hoping for some, any advice. Thanks

PS: If I am to fast, how do I go about it?

Love to all

Go on a juice diet. Just raw vegetables. Dont do fruit at the moment if you honestly think you have parasites and worms, this will feed them.I actually went thru a similar thing to you and its partly is parasitic. DO NOT have sugar or high carb foods. To get rid of parasites do the following. Get yourself some capsules with the following Wormwood, Black Walnut Hulls and Cloves. You can buy them on ebay or get it in a tincture form. I actually did a parasite cleanse and i could not believe what was in my body. Worms and stuff..tapeworms. All sorts of wierd stuff. I saw this stuff with my own eyes.
Do not go to a doctor. They will think youre crazy and will give you pills or want to refer you to psych.

Also to clean your liver and kidneys. Hot water every morning with half a juice of lemon. This really works, youll feel way better. Drink lots of water but as said if you think you got parasites..NO SUGAR!!

Good luck on your fast if you choose to do the whole thing but id recommend a raw veggie diet..

[logic bomb]

Hi there. Just a quick story of my life: For an odd 22 years, I've sinned, lied, cheated, stolen, gone-a-whoring, been arrogant and ignorant... Then one day, (after a couple of years use of marijuana) I just said to myself, no more lies... And I've kept that promise to a certain degree (I can count 2 or 3 dishonesties in the last year and a half)... But to my shock, my health has deteriorated in this period. I've lost more than 40kg, (have not changed my way of life in any way, no more excercise, no diet etc.), I have trouble sleeping, and I have this parasite paranoia, as if there's a HUGE reptile, a worm living and breathing inside my body. I have parasite sensations throughout my body as well, itching skin, small wormlike substances "crawling" out my eye-canals, itching ears and nose, constant cold-like feeling, with coughing and sneezing. I've stopped the marijuana use and also stopped drinking, but my health doesn't seem to imporove.

The doctors keeps stealing my blood and urine and also numerable stool-samples, but they all come up negative for whatever they test for (parasites, HIV, diabetes, bacterias, etc. etc. etc. etc.)

Then one day, I read this religios (I'm not religios, and never have been, I think, but I'm not sure. Never attended church and believes the church to be more corrupting than good.) text - The Essene Gospel of Peace... My body was literally shaking, with pulsing energy as I read the text, my breathing was became short and intense... It was frightening, as I've never experienced anything like it. But the thing is; In this text is discribed Satan manifesting himself in the sick and mamed as a multitude of worms and other abdominations... It fits my intuition of my medical condition, for which no doctor seems to help (I've been to countless doctors and taken countless tests)... As a side note: I've tried various anti-parasite cures (herbal ones bought off the internet), and they all seem to help, to a certain degree, but none has cured me. Las week I ate 300 pills of Co-enzyme Q10, after one Dr. Hulda Clark recommended it for its anti-parasite functions... I could literally hear the worm inside of me squeeching, but he's not dead YET. Anyway, in teh text I read, it said I had to go to nature and fast to redeem my soul and body from Satan, and surprising as it may sound, I actually believe it. But here's the catch; There's freezing temperatures outside, with snow and ice, and I fear for my life, freezing to death, if I'm to go out to nature and live without food and shelter for three weeks. So my question to you guys; Any advice? I'm getting desperate, as you might understand, hence I'm posting this post on the DavidIcke forum, LOL. But some of you seem so knowledgeable and wise, and I was hoping for some, any advice. Thanks

PS: If I am to fast, how do I go about it?

Love to all

Sounds like parasites alright. Brain parasites as well by the sound of it which cause serious depression and delusions of madness (don't worry you're not really going mad but some of your perceptions may be a bit off).

The advice about fasting is spot on and is by far and a way the best method for removing parasitical infestations but I'm going to suggest you don't do that just yet. Why? Its dangerous and lethal if you don't know what your doing so do some serious research on it first OK?
You'll be looking at at least a 10-day fast. Not something to be taken lightly.

When you fast the blood eventually begins to electrify itself in a more natural version of zapping (see Hulda Clark and Bob Beck).

If I was you I would seriously give zapping a go if you haven't tried it already, I've known 2 people to cure morgellons with this device. I'm using one right now on my head cold.. first cold in 3 years because I used to Zap regularly and then stopped last summer.

Read through this
http://www.paradevices.com/parazapper_faq.html#zapper

And then invest a small (and well worth it) amount of money (35 quid delivered - less in the US) in this zapper...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Z4e-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper_W0QQitemZ350019510421QQihZ022QQcategoryZ127 9QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p16 38.m122

I've just bought one for a friend with health problems and also one for myself cause my other one is getting on a bit now.

Good luck!

[madthumbs]

I can show the God of the Bible lying, but in the same book I cannot find a lie by Satan.

In the Bible, YHWH is responsible for 2,038,344 deaths, while the 10 that Satan took were actually YHWH's by proxy.

YHWH aka Jesus wants us to mutilate our infant's genitals, instruct us on selling our daughters to sex slavery, instruct us on beating our property (slaves), and he wants us to love him above everything and everyone else.

I'm confused. Why do people think Satan is the bad guy in this fairy tale book?

[somethinganonymous]

I can show the God of the Bible lying, but in the same book I cannot find a lie by Satan.

In the Bible, YHWH is responsible for 2,038,344 deaths, while the 10 that Satan took were actually YHWH's by proxy.

YHWH aka Jesus wants us to mutilate our infant's genitals, instruct us on selling our daughters to sex slavery, instruct us on beating our property (slaves), and he wants us to love him above everything and everyone else.

I'm confused. Why do people think Satan is the bad guy in this fairy tale book?


Well, that's not exactly the message of YHWH in the Essene Gospels... The bible though, I care not about at all....

[somethinganonymous]

Sounds like parasites alright. Brain parasites as well by the sound of it which cause serious depression and delusions of madness (don't worry you're not really going mad but some of your perceptions may be a bit off).

The advice about fasting is spot on and is by far and a way the best method for removing parasitical infestations but I'm going to suggest you don't do that just yet. Why? Its dangerous and lethal if you don't know what your doing so do some serious research on it first OK?
You'll be looking at at least a 10-day fast. Not something to be taken lightly.

When you fast the blood eventually begins to electrify itself in a more natural version of zapping (see Hulda Clark and Bob Beck).

If I was you I would seriously give zapping a go if you haven't tried it already, I've known 2 people to cure morgellons with this device. I'm using one right now on my head cold.. first cold in 3 years because I used to Zap regularly and then stopped last summer.

Read through this
http://www.paradevices.com/parazapper_faq.html#zapper

And then invest a small (and well worth it) amount of money (35 quid delivered - less in the US) in this zapper...
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Z4e-EXTREME-3-Frequency-Hulda-Clark-Zapper_W0QQitemZ350019510421QQihZ022QQcategoryZ127 9QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD2VQQcmdZViewItem?_trksid=p16 38.m122

I've just bought one for a friend with health problems and also one for myself cause my other one is getting on a bit now.

Good luck!

Thanks, I'll order one of those zappers, I think... Then I'll try fasting as soon as the weather gets warmer, in a few months or so (april, I recon)

[Anders Lindman]

A big part of problems like that is how we think and how that thinking relates to our emotions.

Check out this video:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6031297583952135458

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5424656038440281398

It has a (not so little) Christian touch to it, but I think Christianity is a pretty good religion when used the right way.

[adimon]

Satan is a fictional being from a series of silly books. Consequently he is NOT inside you. If you are feeling bad about things there are people that can help you with that - some of them right here on this forum.

But fasting will do you no good at all. You will play havoc with your metabolism, which truely is the most natural thing about you.

Don't let the supernatural kill your nature.

[somethinganonymous]

well, a little update: I'll sure need to get me one of those zappers, as the parasites have migrated above my chestbones. Now I can actually feel them with my hand on the left side of my chest. I know it sounds creepy, and indeed it is. Reflecting on my condition, I no longer think a herbal remedy can cure this condition, and I'm beginning to doubt fasting as well. I started on a pineapple diet today, and my my, the stomach is SO upset, bloating with lots of wierd sounds and painfull. But, that in my view is a good sign, as that probably means the parasites don't like pineapple:) But, I think I might need an operation at a hospital or something. Going to see the doctor again in less than a week. I'll have him feel the wormlike stuff that I can now feel under my skin on the left side of my chest... Anyway, I'll try the zapper and keep up the pineapple diet. Hope it will have some effect.

About the videos about emotions; Well, they didn't resonate well with me. Seemed like basic stuff I allready knew. I know the first post seemed a bit like quasi-christian propaganda; the thing is, I feel I have control of my emotions and have a well-connected life, in my eyes that is, but the experience I had when reading the text (only the first time, never since, unfortunately) was nothing like I have ever experienced before, and never since. Therefore it stuck, like some external force or something was making a powerfull statement. I don't really know how to explain it in words, as words, even though I feel I have a sound grasp of the english language, are not sufficient as a means of communicating the experience. It was like, when you see people talking in tounges or something. Crazy stuff.

Either way. I'll keep you posted on the results of the pineapple diet, and if nothing comes of it, I'll post an update in the spring, after my waterfast.

Love to all.

[somethinganonymous]

Satan is a fictional being from a series of silly books. Consequently he is NOT inside you. If you are feeling bad about things there are people that can help you with that - some of them right here on this forum.

But fasting will do you no good at all. You will play havoc with your metabolism, which truely is the most natural thing about you.

Don't let the supernatural kill your nature.

I don't think my word came across correct on my first post; The creature inhabiting my stomach is very, very physical in nature. I can feel him with my fingers, hear him with my ears, and smell his decay with my nose. The satan reference came from the essene books of peace, sating that satan (being a supernatural being or whatever) mainfest in the body of man as worms and all other kind of abdominations. There are a graphical depiction in the book, where a very sick disiple of YHWH fasted for three days (then feared for his life, due to worsening pains and sufferings, and begges YHWH to save him), before YHWH heated a cup of milk, calling upon the sun to do it, then "satan", having been deprived of nutrients for three days, couldn't control his hunger, smelled the heated milk being put before the sick man, and crawled out of the man, in the shape of a nasty worm. YHWH then took a couple of stones and crushed the head of "satan" before pulling the rest of the worms body out of the sick man. If for nothing else, it is a good story, and I actually recommend the book, for no other reason than being a good story, and the fact that the vatican had the scrolls with which this and other stories in those books were written, hidden from the public for nearly two thousand years, locked away in Rome and in the Royal Library of the Habsburg dynasty, which I am certain were also what David Icke would refer to as reptilian entities.

Are those books the truth written in words; I doubt it, as one of the morals of the text are thou cannot find truth witten in words, as words are a language of death, created by dead men. Anyway, thanks for the replies ya'll. I'll keep in touch.

[Anders Lindman]

About the videos about emotions; Well, they didn't resonate well with me. Seemed like basic stuff I allready knew. I know the first post seemed a bit like quasi-christian propaganda; the thing is, I feel I have control of my emotions and have a well-connected life, in my eyes that is, but the experience I had when reading the text (only the first time, never since, unfortunately) was nothing like I have ever experienced before, and never since. Therefore it stuck, like some external force or something was making a powerfull statement. I don't really know how to explain it in words, as words, even though I feel I have a sound grasp of the english language, are not sufficient as a means of communicating the experience. It was like, when you see people talking in tounges or something. Crazy stuff.


I thought the videos explained emotional control pretty well. And my guess was that emotions were behind your experiences. Anyway, I am both for and against religions. For example, many religions say something like: "Love and marriage is like horse and carriage; you can't have one without the other" - to that I say: "Poor horse!" :D

[adimon]

I don't think my word came across correct on my first post; The creature inhabiting my stomach is very, very physical in nature. I can feel him with my fingers, hear him with my ears, and smell his decay with my nose. The satan reference came from the essene books of peace, sating that satan (being a supernatural being or whatever) mainfest in the body of man as worms and all other kind of abdominations. There are a graphical depiction in the book, where a very sick disiple of YHWH fasted for three days (then feared for his life, due to worsening pains and sufferings, and begges YHWH to save him), before YHWH heated a cup of milk, calling upon the sun to do it, then "satan", having been deprived of nutrients for three days, couldn't control his hunger, smelled the heated milk being put before the sick man, and crawled out of the man, in the shape of a nasty worm. YHWH then took a couple of stones and crushed the head of "satan" before pulling the rest of the worms body out of the sick man. If for nothing else, it is a good story, and I actually recommend the book, for no other reason than being a good story, and the fact that the vatican had the scrolls with which this and other stories in those books were written, hidden from the public for nearly two thousand years, locked away in Rome and in the Royal Library of the Habsburg dynasty, which I am certain were also what David Icke would refer to as reptilian entities.

Are those books the truth written in words; I doubt it, as one of the morals of the text are thou cannot find truth witten in words, as words are a language of death, created by dead men. Anyway, thanks for the replies ya'll. I'll keep in touch.

Stop talking in parables, and seek some medical help (for your guts). :)

[armoured_amazon]

Hi there. Just a quick story of my life: For an odd 22 years, I've sinned, lied, cheated, stolen, gone-a-whoring, been arrogant and ignorant... Then one day, (after a couple of years use of marijuana) I just said to myself, no more lies... And I've kept that promise to a certain degree (I can count 2 or 3 dishonesties in the last year and a half)... But to my shock, my health has deteriorated in this period. I've lost more than 40kg, (have not changed my way of life in any way, no more excercise, no diet etc.), I have trouble sleeping, and I have this parasite paranoia, as if there's a HUGE reptile, a worm living and breathing inside my body. I have parasite sensations throughout my body as well, itching skin, small wormlike substances "crawling" out my eye-canals, itching ears and nose, constant cold-like feeling, with coughing and sneezing. I've stopped the marijuana use and also stopped drinking, but my health doesn't seem to imporove.

The doctors keeps stealing my blood and urine and also numerable stool-samples, but they all come up negative for whatever they test for (parasites, HIV, diabetes, bacterias, etc. etc. etc. etc.)

Then one day, I read this religios (I'm not religios, and never have been, I think, but I'm not sure. Never attended church and believes the church to be more corrupting than good.) text - The Essene Gospel of Peace... My body was literally shaking, with pulsing energy as I read the text, my breathing was became short and intense... It was frightening, as I've never experienced anything like it. But the thing is; In this text is discribed Satan manifesting himself in the sick and mamed as a multitude of worms and other abdominations... It fits my intuition of my medical condition, for which no doctor seems to help (I've been to countless doctors and taken countless tests)... As a side note: I've tried various anti-parasite cures (herbal ones bought off the internet), and they all seem to help, to a certain degree, but none has cured me. Las week I ate 300 pills of Co-enzyme Q10, after one Dr. Hulda Clark recommended it for its anti-parasite functions... I could literally hear the worm inside of me squeeching, but he's not dead YET. Anyway, in teh text I read, it said I had to go to nature and fast to redeem my soul and body from Satan, and surprising as it may sound, I actually believe it. But here's the catch; There's freezing temperatures outside, with snow and ice, and I fear for my life, freezing to death, if I'm to go out to nature and live without food and shelter for three weeks. So my question to you guys; Any advice? I'm getting desperate, as you might understand, hence I'm posting this post on the DavidIcke forum, LOL. But some of you seem so knowledgeable and wise, and I was hoping for some, any advice. Thanks

PS: If I am to fast, how do I go about it?

Love to all

If you think you are occupied by a malevolent spirit, you need to see a pastor who is specialised in deliverance. Prayer alone/fasting may be dangerous if you don't have the spiritual protection. People dabbling in exorcism can actually invite more spirits in. At this time you may not have sufficient control to prepare for a self-deliverance so I stress, you must seek outside help from an exorcist and/or deliverance team. You should not attempt this alone unless you feel spiritually strong.

We have power over demons but one who is comfortable where it is is going to be pretty p!ssed when you try to remove it. Again, why you should have a deliverance team. There is power in collective prayer; even two praying rather than one is much more powerful than one alone. If you truly believe in Jesus and ask that the Holy Spirit come dwell in you, there's no room for a demon too.
http://patriot.net/~bmcgin/deliverance.html
http://www.alighthouse.com/pdeliverance.htm

Generational curses
http://net-burst.net/bible/curse.htm

Praying out demons
CAST them out instead!

There are many today who will attempt to pray over a person who is obviously in demonic bondage, but they don't even consider the thought of casting out the demon spirit behind the bondage. What is the usual result? The person remains in bondage and the prayer does little or no good.

God has given us authority over demon spirits, and along with authority comes responsibility. We were not given authority over demon spirits and told to cast them out for no reason! When we pray over a person who has a demon, asking the Lord to remove it, we are basically asking Him to do something that He told us to do:

Matthew 10:7-8, "And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give."

Now some might ask, "What about the verse where Jesus tells His disciples that this kind can come forth by prayer and fasting only"? In that scenario, an unusually strong demon was involved and Jesus clearly told His disciples that their faith levels weren't high enough to cast it out, and that they needed to spend more time in prayer and fasting before they could drive this particular demon out:

Matthew 17:19-21, "Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief: for verily I say unto you, If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you. Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting."

Let me ask you this question, did Jesus pray and ask His heavenly Father to remove the demon? No, He commanded it to come forth like any other demon spirit:

Matthew 17:18, "And Jesus rebuked the devil; and he departed out of him: and the child was cured from that very hour."

Jesus was considered the son of Man while He was here on earth... Why? Because He was our example, and as our example, He went about doing the works that He intended us to do as well:

John 14:12, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that believeth on me, the works that I do shall he do also; and greater works than these shall he do; because I go unto my Father."

Are we not given authority over ALL powers of the devil? If so, why couldn't the disciples tackle the stronger-than-usual demon and cast it out freely? They could have, if they had spent more time in prayer and fasting. Jesus made it abundantly clear that the reason they were unable to cast it out, was because of their lack of faith:

Matthew 17:19-20, "Then came the disciples to Jesus apart, and said, Why could not we cast him out? And Jesus said unto them, Because of your unbelief..."

We don't see Jesus and His disciples going about praying for demons to come out, do we? Where did we get this concept of praying out demons? Let's stop praying for demons to come out, and start acting on our God-given authority and do as Jesus commanded of us... let's cast them out!

Mark 16:17, "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils..."

There is power in the name of Jesus. Whatever you do, do it in His name.

[marmadukehussy]

jesus is a mushroom, eat him and you will feel better,

[psychicdefender]

jesus is a mushroom, eat him and you will feel better,

Jesus isn't a mushroom and I wouldn't recommend eating them in somethinganonymous' condition.

Great fun though, had some great times and learnt many insights into our behaviour/spiritual state whilst on mushies.

"Would you like to try a tasty muuuushrooooooooooom?" Infected Mushroom. (A psy-trance group from Israel)

[marmadukehussy]

Jesus isn't a mushroom and I wouldn't recommend eating them in somethinganonymous' condition.

Great fun though, had some great times and learnt many insights into our behaviour/spiritual state whilst on mushies.

"Would you like to try a tasty muuuushrooooooooooom?" Infected Mushroom. (A psy-trance group from Israel)

imo jesus is a mushroom anthropomorthised and no i would not like a infected mushroom as i will stick to the ones i know and trust.

[armoured_amazon]

PS: If I am to fast, how do I go about it?

Love to all

I have something very important to say:

If you believe satan exists, then I assume you believe in God. Unless you ask for salvation through Jesus and invite the Holy Spirit to come live in you, you cannot enter a spiritual battle with the enemy because you will lose. While that door is open (which fasting will enhance), many more demons may enter. If you have the Holy Spirit dwelling in you, none may enter.

re: Fasting, it's very difficult to do (for me, anyway! I have no willpower) but you can do it in God's strength.

Also, rule out any physical reasons for your current state.

God bless x

[deliciously_fresh]

Hi there. Just a quick story of my life: For an odd 22 years, I've sinned, lied, cheated, stolen, gone-a-whoring, been arrogant and ignorant... Then one day, (after a couple of years use of marijuana) I just said to myself, no more lies... And I've kept that promise to a certain degree (I can count 2 or 3 dishonesties in the last year and a half)... But to my shock, my health has deteriorated in this period. I've lost more than 40kg, (have not changed my way of life in any way, no more excercise, no diet etc.), I have trouble sleeping, and I have this parasite paranoia, as if there's a HUGE reptile, a worm living and breathing inside my body. I have parasite sensations throughout my body as well, itching skin, small wormlike substances "crawling" out my eye-canals, itching ears and nose, constant cold-like feeling, with coughing and sneezing. I've stopped the marijuana use and also stopped drinking, but my health doesn't seem to imporove.

The doctors keeps stealing my blood and urine and also numerable stool-samples, but they all come up negative for whatever they test for (parasites, HIV, diabetes, bacterias, etc. etc. etc. etc.)

Then one day, I read this religios (I'm not religios, and never have been, I think, but I'm not sure. Never attended church and believes the church to be more corrupting than good.) text - The Essene Gospel of Peace... My body was literally shaking, with pulsing energy as I read the text, my breathing was became short and intense... It was frightening, as I've never experienced anything like it. But the thing is; In this text is discribed Satan manifesting himself in the sick and mamed as a multitude of worms and other abdominations... It fits my intuition of my medical condition, for which no doctor seems to help (I've been to countless doctors and taken countless tests)... As a side note: I've tried various anti-parasite cures (herbal ones bought off the internet), and they all seem to help, to a certain degree, but none has cured me. Las week I ate 300 pills of Co-enzyme Q10, after one Dr. Hulda Clark recommended it for its anti-parasite functions... I could literally hear the worm inside of me squeeching, but he's not dead YET. Anyway, in teh text I read, it said I had to go to nature and fast to redeem my soul and body from Satan, and surprising as it may sound, I actually believe it. But here's the catch; There's freezing temperatures outside, with snow and ice, and I fear for my life, freezing to death, if I'm to go out to nature and live without food and shelter for three weeks. So my question to you guys; Any advice? I'm getting desperate, as you might understand, hence I'm posting this post on the DavidIcke forum, LOL. But some of you seem so knowledgeable and wise, and I was hoping for some, any advice. Thanks

PS: If I am to fast, how do I go about it?

Love to all

Hey,

I think the other members who've posted, have generally got this issue covered.

The one thing I'll suggest is meditation. I think it works wonders, and it will be of some use to you alongside prayers and fasting.

Good luck with your cleansing.

Deliciously_Fresh :)

[halebox]

Get into an almost sleep state and tell it to leave. Say to yourself and it I am from the one and I own my body and you are not allowed inside it. Picture what it feels like to rip them out of you and cast them away. You must commit to this and believe it. Part of your subconsience is allowing this and you must change this and stay strong. Once it exits wrap bands of protection around you. Keep strong and dont live in fear. Nothing can enter you without your consent. Whatever created you created it so tune into that higher force and it will run. Go beyond earthly religions.

[armoured_amazon]

Get into an almost sleep state and tell it to leave. Say to yourself and it I am from the one and I own my body and you are not allowed inside it. Picture what it feels like to rip them out of you and cast them away. You must commit to this and believe it. Part of your subconsience is allowing this and you must change this and stay strong. Once it exits wrap bands of protection around you. Keep strong and dont live in fear. Nothing can enter you without your consent. Whatever created you created it so tune into that higher force and it will run. Go beyond earthly religions.

Good post.

[deliciously_fresh]

Armoured_Amazon and Halebox,

Have you guys had personal experiences with demons?

[armoured_amazon]

Armoured_Amazon and Halebox,

Have you guys had personal experiences with demons?

Yes but not from possession. :)

eta: Although I've had interactions with them dwelling in other people as well as appearing in their own form.

[deliciously_fresh]

Yes but not from possession. :)

eta: Although I've had interactions with them dwelling in other people as well as appearing in their own form.

Oh wow! :eek:

Were these people dabbling with ouija boards or anything? Were they satanists? Are you traumatised by the experiences in any way?

[Mo0n5tar]

It's funny how easily we see demons in others but are reluctant to look at our own devilishness...

[armoured_amazon]

It's funny how easily we see demons in others but are reluctant to look at our own devilishness...

Maybe for you.

Oh wow! :eek:

Were these people dabbling with ouija boards or anything? Were they satanists? Are you traumatised by the experiences in any way?

Too many people to mention, but for the most part, just regular people (actually, one of my best friends is a satanist; we just agree to leave those parts of our lives out of our interactions. Do I trust him? No ahaha). Not traumatised, no. From childhood, I was never discouraged when I saw stuff from the spiritual realm generally because my family see it too. I tend not to go into too much detail because it gives the enemy attention he does not deserve from me when I ought to be glorifying God. :)

eta: A lot of the activity around in my childhood was probably due to behaviours of several family members and our family history itself.

[deliciously_fresh]

Maybe for you.



Too many people to mention, but for the most part, just regular people (actually, one of my best friends is a satanist; we just agree to leave those parts of our lives out of our interactions. Do I trust him? No ahaha). Not traumatised, no. From childhood, I was never discouraged when I saw stuff from the spiritual realm generally because my family see it too. I tend not to go into too much detail because it gives the enemy attention he does not deserve from me when I ought to be glorifying God. :)

eta: A lot of the activity around in my childhood was probably due to behaviours of several family members and our family history itself.

:D

It must have been scary. I couldn't imagine seeing demons. :eek: I hope I never do either! Do you not find it weird that you come across people who are posessed? Do you see it as an opportunity to help 'cleanse' them?

[Mo0n5tar]

SomethingAnonymous here is a link to a board where you can ask for some assistance in the realm of fasting and detoxifying/cleansing your system. link (http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showforum=20)

[armoured_amazon]

:D

It must have been scary. I couldn't imagine seeing demons. :eek: I hope I never do either! Do you not find it weird that you come across people who are posessed? Do you see it as an opportunity to help 'cleanse' them?

NO. That's not my area. Unless a person actually wants a demon gone, trying to get rid of it is asking for trouble. :eek:

Plus most people are unaware they are infested. My ex-housemate for example was carrying 9 or 10 around with her. She just messaged me today to catch up and everything in her health has gone worse. When I got rid of them when she lived here (because I was living here and did not want to live with them) her health cleared up. Now she's living with her boyfriend and free to do what she wants, she's had everything from viral meningitis to glandular fever to fibromyalgia. She won't realise that what she thinks brings her comfort (her rituals and invocations) is making her sick. She's walking around and sharing her space with a football team of spirits all feeding off of her; no wonder she has no energy for herself to heal.

Some people will shapeshift and be unaware of it. Now if those people have no belief in anything outside of their soap operas and football matches on tv, it's nigh impossible to get help for them. There used to be a woman at my mum's church who always asked for healing and exorcism but she had no intention of being healed and enjoyed the manifestations and scenes her demon created at church.

[deliciously_fresh]

NO. That's not my area. Unless a person actually wants a demon gone, trying to get rid of it is asking for trouble. :eek:

Plus most people are unaware they are infested. My ex-housemate for example was carrying 9 or 10 around with her. She just messaged me today to catch up and everything in her health has gone worse. When I got rid of them when she lived here (because I was living here and did not want to live with them) her health cleared up. Now she's living with her boyfriend and free to do what she wants, she's had everything from viral meningitis to glandular fever to fibromyalgia. She won't realise that what she thinks brings her comfort (her rituals and invocations) is making her sick. She's walking around and sharing her space with a football team of spirits all feeding off of her; no wonder she has no energy for herself to heal.

Some people will shapeshift and be unaware of it. Now if those people have no belief in anything outside of their soap operas and football matches on tv, it's nigh impossible to get help for them. There used to be a woman at my mum's church who always asked for healing and exorcism but she had no intention of being healed and enjoyed the manifestations and scenes her demon created at church.

Jeez! :eek: I hope she gets better soon and (literally) gets rid of her demons.

[armoured_amazon]

Jeez! :eek: I hope she gets better soon and (literally) gets rid of her demons.

I know. She must be going off her head, stuck at home since August!

[tothestars]

Do you live far from Drammen? I might know a person that can help you.

[madthumbs]

Fasting is a part of the brainwashing.

Mind Control Made Easy: How to Become a Cult Leader
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8587216691224610255

B-vitamins, and oils are essential to good neurological / mental health. B-vitamins are water soluble, so you should eat food with them every day.

[phildee3]

If you think you are occupied by a malevolent spirit, you need to see a pastor who is specialised in deliverance.



Absolutely not!
Call no man father, or rabbi, or master (Matthew ch. 23) means do not treat any person as such.
You have but one master; - Christ (= your higher self/your conscience).

You alone know the truth and the way, - it is within you.

[Mo0n5tar]

If fasting were part of the brainwashing then why is it suppressed by doctors, nutritionists pharma and education institutions?

[madthumbs]

If fasting were part of the brainwashing then why is it suppressed by doctors, nutritionists pharma and education institutions?

Do you believe that disinfo relies on 100% disinfo? :rolleyes:

The only thing fasting has been shown to cure is sanity and logical thinking from what I can see.

[Mo0n5tar]

No surprise there my friend for "they have eyes but they see not"....

I personally know two people who have cured "incurable" ailments, from people with skin conditions to an asthmatic reliant on steroids being free from them, likewise there is loads of recorded cases where incorporating fasting into a healthy diet has cured anything from blood pressure related illnesses to stutters.

Like anything from biblical studies to eating if you have no personal experience then it tends to mean very little to you.

[madthumbs]

asthmatic reliant on steroids

This came from removing a cause, not fasting. Eliminating sodium benzoate (benzoic acid) for example could have done the trick.

people with skin conditions

Soy or another food could have caused this.

Starvation is not a cure.

[Mo0n5tar]

Fasting is not starvation, why would animals in tune with nature starve themselves, they wouldn't, fasting is natures healing method, i've tried it myself.

[joyful]

ridding my body of satan - fasting?

Prozac.

[somethinganonymous]

Hi all.

Thank you all very much for the replies, links and suggestions...

First, an update on my condition:

I'm beginning to feel better (physically) - I've been doing small fasts of 3-4 days, a few times now, and I always feel better after the fast, but unfortunately the effects wears off after a few days of normal food intake.

I've started meditating more, and now do half an hour meditation in the outside everyday at school. It helps me clear my mind. While I'm new to this whole kundalini awakening process, I've come to the conclusion that the effects I was experiencing while reading the Gospels (first post) was very much like the effects I'm getting now from meditation (though the effects of meditation is not as strong.)

I've looked at the other forum that was linked in this thread... And while I would like to try out a few of the supplements and zapper device, my economy at the moment does not permit such a purchase, unfortunately, and I'm not feeling good enough for a job, just getting to and following the curriculum at school is hard enough...

Anyway, commanding him to leave hasn't really worked (guess my faith isn't strong enough... I feel something isn't quite "right" having to pray for good things to happen. I mean, I think I take it for granted that should a higher being, god, whatever exist, it would be in "his" interest to do the right/good thing, and not make demands of "his" followers to pray for such action to take place).

Eitherway, as soon as summer comes along, I'll take to the hills with no food (so I can't brake of the fast of my own will - the last fast I broke off after 4 days, even though I wanted to continue - my willpower is lacking...). I'm so looking forward to this summer. In my mind I say I'll either die or get well. Hoping for the latter of course.

With the doctors I've done the following tests; multiple stool samples, blood samples, urine samples and ultrasound test. Next up is a colonoscopy (sp?) where they'll take a camera inside my guts... My next doctors appointment is in one week, so I'll hear what he has to say.

On a positive side; the meditation excercises that I've been doing lately has enabled me too "feel" other people... Their energy. But my depression and lack of self esteem (my self esteem is like a sandcastle at the beach for the moment, as soon as I build it up, a tidal wave comes along and shatters it) - makes it really difficult for me to initiate a conversation with a stranger. So, I so feel related to the person in another thread claiming a feeling of loneliness following the new shift in reality, i.e. a newfound belief in "conspiracy theories".

So I've gone from an extroverted bastard to an introverted looser. Haha, hope I'll get clarity of mind as well this summer. I seem to be in need of it.

Thanks for all the replies folks. I'll post the results of the colonoscopy, should the doctor find anything, and the results of my summer fast, once it is complete (on the prerequisite of me, still being alive that is).

Peace

[madthumbs]

Fasting is not starvation, why would animals in tune with nature starve themselves, they wouldn't, fasting is natures healing method, i've tried it myself.

If it was natural, you wouldn't need to be told to do it. I don't fast, and I'm not sick. -Weird! :confused:

[Mo0n5tar]

B.S argument, the man himself has spoken above and told you mr thumbs, he felt better after his fast, you have obviously not experiomented yourself in this area, therefore you have absolutely no right to tell people not to fast and especially that fasting is a scam or it is brainwashing or part of some agenda!!

Fasting is about mental and spiritual rejuvination, aswell as physically making an effort to purify your body/temple.

Mr Anonimous, you seem to have supreme will power, i think if you immediately begin eating predominantley Natural diet you will begin to make real progress, get some Nag Champa Incense to aid your meditation aswell, and have mineral baths if possible, good health is cheap and easy, through your methods above and natural diet you will find it much easier to still your mind etc.

Good Luck!

[armoured_amazon]

Prozac.

Too much fluoride in that. :D

Fasting is not starvation, why would animals in tune with nature starve themselves, they wouldn't, fasting is natures healing method, i've tried it myself.

Very true!

[skylark]

I was just reading the bible code thread and posted a reply including a recommendation to armoured amazon to get a copy of The Essene Origins of Christianity and blow me if Somethinganonymous -the iniatiator of the thread -is discussing it; synchronicity. Let us know how you get on Somethinganonymous. Word of advice:follow the diet in the narrative as it seems to me that is why you were 'given it'. Also -and i don't mean to be crude, i'm being sincere and i want you to get well -you're a young lad and that involves a lot of sexual tension which must be released:various 'entities' feed off 'nocturnal emissions' so YOU MUST ensure your linen is free of it and tissues etc -if you're 'taking one off the wrist', to put it delicately,are properly disposed of. This might raise a few sniggers but i'm being deadly serious. Best to all.

[madthumbs]

B.S argument, the man himself has spoken above and told you mr thumbs, he felt better after his fast,

And I would have felt alleviated from Lupus symptoms from fasting, BUT I would be less healthy as a result of deprivation of calories (our brains run on sugar and oxygen) and water soluble vitamins naturally occurring in food. Is it so hard to understand that something in the food you eat could have been the cause of the disease condition to begin with?

you have obviously not experiomented yourself in this area, therefore [B]you have absolutely no right to tell people not to fast and especially that fasting is a scam or it is brainwashing or part of some agenda!

Get off your high horse. I've gone through times of forced fasting, and I ended up rebounding with excess fat and more religiously brainwashed because of it. You don't know shit about me, but you sit here acting as if you know it all.

Fasting is about mental and spiritual rejuvination, aswell as physically making an effort to purify your body/temple.

So say the religious nuts. It makes you mentally ill, that's why you think it brings you closer to your imaginary God.

Before anyone is conned by this nonsense, see this vid:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1423349163169488744

[milone]

Dont try to reason with MADTHUMBS he is pure disinfo agent. Hey MADTHUMBS which agency pays u to troll this site bud???

[madthumbs]

Dont try to reason with MADTHUMBS he is pure disinfo agent.

If it were true you wouldn't be resorting to a childish attack to make your point.

Hey MADTHUMBS which agency pays u to troll this site bud???

You're the one making the accusation and you don't know?

[cataleptik]

Go on a juice diet. Just raw vegetables. Dont do fruit at the moment if you honestly think you have parasites and worms, this will feed them.I actually went thru a similar thing to you and its partly is parasitic. DO NOT have sugar or high carb foods. To get rid of parasites do the following. Get yourself some capsules with the following Wormwood, Black Walnut Hulls and Cloves. You can buy them on ebay or get it in a tincture form. I actually did a parasite cleanse and i could not believe what was in my body. Worms and stuff..tapeworms. All sorts of wierd stuff. I saw this stuff with my own eyes.
Do not go to a doctor. They will think youre crazy and will give you pills or want to refer you to psych.

Also to clean your liver and kidneys. Hot water every morning with half a juice of lemon. This really works, youll feel way better. Drink lots of water but as said if you think you got parasites..NO SUGAR!!

Good luck on your fast if you choose to do the whole thing but id recommend a raw veggie diet..


this seemed like good advice.

MANY people are trying this.

read up, and also
i think it is possible for MIRACULOUS seeming changes to be made in life path by paying attention to the body and making changes.

- another water bearer...

[cataleptik]

I was just reading the bible code thread and posted a reply including a recommendation to armoured amazon to get a copy of The Essene Origins of Christianity and blow me if Somethinganonymous -the iniatiator of the thread -is discussing it; synchronicity. Let us know how you get on Somethinganonymous. Word of advice:follow the diet in the narrative as it seems to me that is why you were 'given it'. Also -and i don't mean to be crude, i'm being sincere and i want you to get well -you're a young lad and that involves a lot of sexual tension which must be released:various 'entities' feed off 'nocturnal emissions' so YOU MUST ensure your linen is free of it and tissues etc -if you're 'taking one off the wrist', to put it delicately,are properly disposed of. This might raise a few sniggers but i'm being deadly serious. Best to all.




i read that too....

the essene origins of christianity.
in it jesus gives men ENEMAS...


the intestines can make the most disgusting noises...

[madthumbs]

i read that too....

the essene origins of christianity.
in it jesus gives men ENEMAS...


the intestines can make the most disgusting noises...

Matthew 23:26
Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.

Jesus and the Holy Enema (http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8317)
:D

[tothestars]

To the threadstarter : I sent you a private message. Hope it will be of help. Sorry for the late reply tho

[Mo0n5tar]

TBH i was thinkin, have you ever tried blackstrap mollasses, next time yer in town ask the people in your health store about blackstrap and see if it makes sense to ya.