tehuti
27-01-2008, 08:23 PM
Everyone seems to have an idea of Atlantis who/what they were, technologies and so forth.
In this thread I will be presenting a radically different view of who and what was Atlantis, courtesy of New Jerusalem Network.
Starting with:
Things Plato Had To Consider In Creating His Mythology
"Returning westward, we come to Greece . Grecian civilization was the offspring of the Egyptian one. This fact has been clearly proven by Sir Arthur Evans, who, through his excavations on the island of Crete , has established that island as "the vital link between the civilizations of Egypt and Southeastern Europe ." Speaking of the Libyan and the Egyptian factors in the Cretan civilization, he adds that Negroes Even From The Upper Nile Might Have Penetrated To Crete. "The question," he says, "even arises whether some of the other, in this case, partly Negroized elements element with whom the proto-Libyan stood in close relations in the Nile Valley may not have also found their way to the Cretan district in their wake."
Grecian mythology, which, as was said, is a kind of shadowy history, proves further this Egyptian origin. The earliest Greek gods, like the Egyptian ones, were black. We shall see more of this in the section on "Black Gods and Messiahs."
According to this mythology, the Greeks people, themselves, seemed to have come into being as the result of miscegenation. Zeus, the "Father of the Gods," who is of Ethiopian ancestry, mates with the fair Greek maiden, Io, and has a mulatto son, Epaphus, who was born in Egypt. Eschylus, great tragic poet of ancient Greece , says of this union, "And thou shall bring forth black Epaphus, thus named from the manner of Zeus' engendering... Fifth in descent from him fifty maidens shall return to Argos ( Greece ), not of their choice but fleeing marriage with their cousin kin." Eschylus adds, "Call this the work of Zeus, and this his race sprang from Epaphus, and thou shalt hit the truth,"
This was the symbolic way of saying that the Argives, or Greeks, were of mixed blood. One of the titles of Zeus was Ethiops, an Egyptian or African word, which came later to mean "black."
Further, to show the racial affinity of the Greeks with the Phoenicians, Epaphus is named as being the ancestor of Danaus, King of Arabia, and of Cadmus, a prince of Phoenicia, inventor of many useful arts and the Introducer of the Alphabet from Phoenicia into Greece. Furthermore, Cadmus is the brother of Europa, whose sons by black Zeus are the founders of the European people. Underlying this mythology are certain historical and etymological truths. A was said several scientists, among them Sergi, declared that the Europeans, especially those of the Mediterranean , are strictly speaking, Eur-Africans.
"Sex and Race," J. A. Rogers, page 79-80
Understand that, in creating mythology, the Greeks looked back in history and select characters and events that often lived and occurred hundreds to thousands of years apart to tell their story.
Therefore, the excerpt taken from "Sex and Race" by J. A. Rogers covers history from Menes in Egypt to the prophet Daniel in Babylon. However, in that excerpt, we can't be sure if Epaphus is actually Menes himself, or someone else who would have received his commission from Menes.
The fact that he was born in Egypt means he was either Menes or subject to Menes. However, we can be sure Danaus was another name for the prophet Daniel. He his called king of Arabia because he is actually a descendant of the Hamitic Ethiopians Akkadians who founded the original Babylon , and were responsible for the development of hieroglyphic and cuneiform writing in that region. Thus all these things were actually a study of the family tree of black Zeus (Heru) from Egypt to the Middle East and Southern Europe. We can therefore be sure these were all things Plato had to consider in developing a fictitious mythological civilization to capture the imagination of the European people.
http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/easton/east0060.htm
http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/easton/east1601.htm
Since the discovery of the remnant of the Gospel of Heru and someone who could read them, these Hamitic Ethiopians and their Cushite descendants became very interested in the development of new forms of writing and the development of written versions of existing languages in order to insure the whole world would one be able to read the Gospel of Heru. Though the Phoenicians, a blue-black people belonging to the Cushite language group, came along a bit later than the Hamitic Akkadians, they still had the same interest. Thus they developed what is known as the Phoenician Hebrew alphabets (or Paleo Hebrew alphabets), which should have really been called the Cushite Hebrew alphabets. The Hamitic Ethiopian initiation of this phenomenon is the root of why it is written in Genesis 11:1 that the whole earth was of one language, which was the Hamitic language group. Remember, the primary focus of Heru's civilization was not upon building great monuments and military complexes and apparatuses as a testimony of the civilization, but rather upon building men (through peaceful means) who could stand on earth as the Sons of God (Genesis 6:4). Nimrod's involvement in this movement through military might instead of peaceful means (hetep) became described as a failed attempt to build a tower to heaven. For that it is written that God confounded the language so the people could not understand each other when trying to work together in such projects. Yet the Cushite language group remained a part of the Hamitic language group for quite some time.
Therefore, in the excerpt from "Sex and Race" Cadmus, who is described as a prince of Phoenicia, no doubt represented the Hamitic Akkadians that welcomed to the region the blue-black Cushite people, who became the most influential members of Pheonician culture (or civilization).
What I'm trying to do here, is to familiarize you with some of the knowledge of African history and African civilization Plato was privy to. Hopefully you will be able to see clearly what made him feel it was necessary to create a superior concept of civilization that would capture the imagination of the European people, and focus their attention away from Egypt and Ethiopia. Otherwise, his dream of making his Academy in Athens the world's center of learning would never be realized.
Therefore, let us continue with more African knowledge that Plato was most likely exposed to. Please be patient, while I slowly walk you through these things. I will soon drive home all the main the points.
"...It is in Upper Egypt, from the Paleolithic to the present, that material evidence has been found to attest the successive stages of civilization: Tasian, Badarian (circa 7471 B.C. ?), Amratian (circa 6500 B.C. ?), protodynastic. In contrast to Upper Egypt, no traces of continuous evolution exist in the Delta. The Merimde* center disappeared at the end of the Tasian; there is nothing north of Badari. The ivory statuettes with triangular heads, found in the epoch called Gerzean (circa 5500 B.C. ?), correspond to those found In Crete At The Time of Menes. The statuettes cannot date back earlier than the epoch of Hierakonpolis, which Capart attributes to the Amratian period."
"The African Origin of Civilization," Cheikh Anta Diop, page 85-86
Hey, Crete! Isn't that in the Mediterranean Sea near Greece, the homeland of Plato? What are African ivory figurines doing there? You think maybe they were brought there by the same black African people who introduced the Gospel of Heru on the Island? Probably not; they probably came there from Atlantis by way of the Atlantic Ocean.
Here the dates for the Badarian, Amratian, and Gerzean cultures are dramatically different from the dates previously used in this article. The previous dates represent the time periods in which each culture reached and maintained its highpoint--as in the classical period of each culture. These latest time periods here are more of less represent the entire known history of each culture. However, the most important date here in 5500 B.C. For this is the time of Heru (Adam). As a prophecy of the number of years it would be from Adam (Heru) until the coming of Jesus, we can find this date mentioned several times in "The First Book of Adam and Eve," which is also known as "The Conflict of Adam and Eve With Satan."
In addition to Anta Diop here, this date (5500 B.C.) has also proven to be a source of a little confusion for our beloved sister Drusilla Dunjee Houston. Please note that on page 76 of her book "The Wonderful Ethiopians of The Ancient Cushite Empire" she states that warring kings in Egypt became united under Menes in 5500 B.C. However, Menes was either the first or second of the First Dynasty, which began around 3200 B.C. Therefore, Menes was not around to united anyone in 5500 B.C. So what is this relationship between Menes and 5500 B.C. that has caused so much confusion for some of our greatest researchers? To answer that question requires the skills and both the external and internal insight of a Man Child. So let me see if can help our beloved sister out (Revelation 12:5). Before Egypt, I AM; several Egyptians kingdoms have died longing to see my day and did not see it; yet, when they saw it, they rejoiced, and were exceedingly glad.
Remember, Heru (Adam) began his walk on earth around 5500 B.C. Menes, using the Gospel of Heru as a spiritually cohesive substanceā€”as in faith being the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seenā€”untied Upper and Lower Egypt to begin the First Egyptian Dynasty in Memphis (Hebrew 11:1). Achieving a Most High order of spiritualist civilization was the thing hoped for, and the act of uniting in that cause was the evidence of an unseen Most High order of spiritualist civilization that had already existed.
Nevertheless, in this excerpt from Anta Diop's book, this date (5500 B.C.) is associated with a period in history thought to be the time in which certain ivory statuettes carved--with some rather unusual triangular shaped heads. Such ivory figurines found in Thebes (or Naqada) are especially important because they are primitive replica of such ivory figurines carved by the tribes of Heru around 5500 B.C. as teaching aids. They would use these miniature carving in teaching the story of Heru and Ne-e-te (or Adam and Eve) and in teaching the Creation of man and woman. The fact that these miniature figurines were carves from the ivory tusk and bones of large animals, like the elephant and the hippopotamus, may account for the Biblical story of Eve being made from one of the bones of Adam.
Nevertheless, because such ivory figurines were found with the remnants of the Gospel of Heru found in Thebes, they became very popular in that region. In being found with the remnants of the Gospel of Heru, they were thought of also as being something like the Cherubims we are told that God placed at the east of the Garden of Eden to protect the tree of life. However, in the case of these portable miniature gods carved from ivory, their duty would have been to protect the sacred messages in the written Gospel of Heru. Thus they also became assigned the duty of protecting the decease and his or her property into the after-life. Therefore, they were often found buried along with the deceased.
Yes, the popularity of these portable miniature gods also became a factor in the Middle East. Laban, the father-in-law of Jacob (Israel), kept several such gods in his home to protect it, and to prevent evil from entering into it. Genesis 31:19-35 tell us of the great stress Laban experienced when he discovered his gods missingā€”which had actually been stolen by his daughter Rachel.
In this thread I will be presenting a radically different view of who and what was Atlantis, courtesy of New Jerusalem Network.
Starting with:
Things Plato Had To Consider In Creating His Mythology
"Returning westward, we come to Greece . Grecian civilization was the offspring of the Egyptian one. This fact has been clearly proven by Sir Arthur Evans, who, through his excavations on the island of Crete , has established that island as "the vital link between the civilizations of Egypt and Southeastern Europe ." Speaking of the Libyan and the Egyptian factors in the Cretan civilization, he adds that Negroes Even From The Upper Nile Might Have Penetrated To Crete. "The question," he says, "even arises whether some of the other, in this case, partly Negroized elements element with whom the proto-Libyan stood in close relations in the Nile Valley may not have also found their way to the Cretan district in their wake."
Grecian mythology, which, as was said, is a kind of shadowy history, proves further this Egyptian origin. The earliest Greek gods, like the Egyptian ones, were black. We shall see more of this in the section on "Black Gods and Messiahs."
According to this mythology, the Greeks people, themselves, seemed to have come into being as the result of miscegenation. Zeus, the "Father of the Gods," who is of Ethiopian ancestry, mates with the fair Greek maiden, Io, and has a mulatto son, Epaphus, who was born in Egypt. Eschylus, great tragic poet of ancient Greece , says of this union, "And thou shall bring forth black Epaphus, thus named from the manner of Zeus' engendering... Fifth in descent from him fifty maidens shall return to Argos ( Greece ), not of their choice but fleeing marriage with their cousin kin." Eschylus adds, "Call this the work of Zeus, and this his race sprang from Epaphus, and thou shalt hit the truth,"
This was the symbolic way of saying that the Argives, or Greeks, were of mixed blood. One of the titles of Zeus was Ethiops, an Egyptian or African word, which came later to mean "black."
Further, to show the racial affinity of the Greeks with the Phoenicians, Epaphus is named as being the ancestor of Danaus, King of Arabia, and of Cadmus, a prince of Phoenicia, inventor of many useful arts and the Introducer of the Alphabet from Phoenicia into Greece. Furthermore, Cadmus is the brother of Europa, whose sons by black Zeus are the founders of the European people. Underlying this mythology are certain historical and etymological truths. A was said several scientists, among them Sergi, declared that the Europeans, especially those of the Mediterranean , are strictly speaking, Eur-Africans.
"Sex and Race," J. A. Rogers, page 79-80
Understand that, in creating mythology, the Greeks looked back in history and select characters and events that often lived and occurred hundreds to thousands of years apart to tell their story.
Therefore, the excerpt taken from "Sex and Race" by J. A. Rogers covers history from Menes in Egypt to the prophet Daniel in Babylon. However, in that excerpt, we can't be sure if Epaphus is actually Menes himself, or someone else who would have received his commission from Menes.
The fact that he was born in Egypt means he was either Menes or subject to Menes. However, we can be sure Danaus was another name for the prophet Daniel. He his called king of Arabia because he is actually a descendant of the Hamitic Ethiopians Akkadians who founded the original Babylon , and were responsible for the development of hieroglyphic and cuneiform writing in that region. Thus all these things were actually a study of the family tree of black Zeus (Heru) from Egypt to the Middle East and Southern Europe. We can therefore be sure these were all things Plato had to consider in developing a fictitious mythological civilization to capture the imagination of the European people.
http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/easton/east0060.htm
http://www.htmlbible.com/kjv30/easton/east1601.htm
Since the discovery of the remnant of the Gospel of Heru and someone who could read them, these Hamitic Ethiopians and their Cushite descendants became very interested in the development of new forms of writing and the development of written versions of existing languages in order to insure the whole world would one be able to read the Gospel of Heru. Though the Phoenicians, a blue-black people belonging to the Cushite language group, came along a bit later than the Hamitic Akkadians, they still had the same interest. Thus they developed what is known as the Phoenician Hebrew alphabets (or Paleo Hebrew alphabets), which should have really been called the Cushite Hebrew alphabets. The Hamitic Ethiopian initiation of this phenomenon is the root of why it is written in Genesis 11:1 that the whole earth was of one language, which was the Hamitic language group. Remember, the primary focus of Heru's civilization was not upon building great monuments and military complexes and apparatuses as a testimony of the civilization, but rather upon building men (through peaceful means) who could stand on earth as the Sons of God (Genesis 6:4). Nimrod's involvement in this movement through military might instead of peaceful means (hetep) became described as a failed attempt to build a tower to heaven. For that it is written that God confounded the language so the people could not understand each other when trying to work together in such projects. Yet the Cushite language group remained a part of the Hamitic language group for quite some time.
Therefore, in the excerpt from "Sex and Race" Cadmus, who is described as a prince of Phoenicia, no doubt represented the Hamitic Akkadians that welcomed to the region the blue-black Cushite people, who became the most influential members of Pheonician culture (or civilization).
What I'm trying to do here, is to familiarize you with some of the knowledge of African history and African civilization Plato was privy to. Hopefully you will be able to see clearly what made him feel it was necessary to create a superior concept of civilization that would capture the imagination of the European people, and focus their attention away from Egypt and Ethiopia. Otherwise, his dream of making his Academy in Athens the world's center of learning would never be realized.
Therefore, let us continue with more African knowledge that Plato was most likely exposed to. Please be patient, while I slowly walk you through these things. I will soon drive home all the main the points.
"...It is in Upper Egypt, from the Paleolithic to the present, that material evidence has been found to attest the successive stages of civilization: Tasian, Badarian (circa 7471 B.C. ?), Amratian (circa 6500 B.C. ?), protodynastic. In contrast to Upper Egypt, no traces of continuous evolution exist in the Delta. The Merimde* center disappeared at the end of the Tasian; there is nothing north of Badari. The ivory statuettes with triangular heads, found in the epoch called Gerzean (circa 5500 B.C. ?), correspond to those found In Crete At The Time of Menes. The statuettes cannot date back earlier than the epoch of Hierakonpolis, which Capart attributes to the Amratian period."
"The African Origin of Civilization," Cheikh Anta Diop, page 85-86
Hey, Crete! Isn't that in the Mediterranean Sea near Greece, the homeland of Plato? What are African ivory figurines doing there? You think maybe they were brought there by the same black African people who introduced the Gospel of Heru on the Island? Probably not; they probably came there from Atlantis by way of the Atlantic Ocean.
Here the dates for the Badarian, Amratian, and Gerzean cultures are dramatically different from the dates previously used in this article. The previous dates represent the time periods in which each culture reached and maintained its highpoint--as in the classical period of each culture. These latest time periods here are more of less represent the entire known history of each culture. However, the most important date here in 5500 B.C. For this is the time of Heru (Adam). As a prophecy of the number of years it would be from Adam (Heru) until the coming of Jesus, we can find this date mentioned several times in "The First Book of Adam and Eve," which is also known as "The Conflict of Adam and Eve With Satan."
In addition to Anta Diop here, this date (5500 B.C.) has also proven to be a source of a little confusion for our beloved sister Drusilla Dunjee Houston. Please note that on page 76 of her book "The Wonderful Ethiopians of The Ancient Cushite Empire" she states that warring kings in Egypt became united under Menes in 5500 B.C. However, Menes was either the first or second of the First Dynasty, which began around 3200 B.C. Therefore, Menes was not around to united anyone in 5500 B.C. So what is this relationship between Menes and 5500 B.C. that has caused so much confusion for some of our greatest researchers? To answer that question requires the skills and both the external and internal insight of a Man Child. So let me see if can help our beloved sister out (Revelation 12:5). Before Egypt, I AM; several Egyptians kingdoms have died longing to see my day and did not see it; yet, when they saw it, they rejoiced, and were exceedingly glad.
Remember, Heru (Adam) began his walk on earth around 5500 B.C. Menes, using the Gospel of Heru as a spiritually cohesive substanceā€”as in faith being the substance of things hoped for, and the evidence of things not seenā€”untied Upper and Lower Egypt to begin the First Egyptian Dynasty in Memphis (Hebrew 11:1). Achieving a Most High order of spiritualist civilization was the thing hoped for, and the act of uniting in that cause was the evidence of an unseen Most High order of spiritualist civilization that had already existed.
Nevertheless, in this excerpt from Anta Diop's book, this date (5500 B.C.) is associated with a period in history thought to be the time in which certain ivory statuettes carved--with some rather unusual triangular shaped heads. Such ivory figurines found in Thebes (or Naqada) are especially important because they are primitive replica of such ivory figurines carved by the tribes of Heru around 5500 B.C. as teaching aids. They would use these miniature carving in teaching the story of Heru and Ne-e-te (or Adam and Eve) and in teaching the Creation of man and woman. The fact that these miniature figurines were carves from the ivory tusk and bones of large animals, like the elephant and the hippopotamus, may account for the Biblical story of Eve being made from one of the bones of Adam.
Nevertheless, because such ivory figurines were found with the remnants of the Gospel of Heru found in Thebes, they became very popular in that region. In being found with the remnants of the Gospel of Heru, they were thought of also as being something like the Cherubims we are told that God placed at the east of the Garden of Eden to protect the tree of life. However, in the case of these portable miniature gods carved from ivory, their duty would have been to protect the sacred messages in the written Gospel of Heru. Thus they also became assigned the duty of protecting the decease and his or her property into the after-life. Therefore, they were often found buried along with the deceased.
Yes, the popularity of these portable miniature gods also became a factor in the Middle East. Laban, the father-in-law of Jacob (Israel), kept several such gods in his home to protect it, and to prevent evil from entering into it. Genesis 31:19-35 tell us of the great stress Laban experienced when he discovered his gods missingā€”which had actually been stolen by his daughter Rachel.