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zedd
26-01-2008, 04:16 AM
Got this off the Coast to Coast site:

http://www.livescience.com/space/scienceastronomy/080124-asteroid-flyby.html

Check out that time. It's going to be closest at 3:33am. Queue Twilight Zone music.

hagbard_celine
27-01-2008, 12:03 PM
That's about 9.33 in the morning GMT. It will be light outside. But have you seen the threads saying it will be a catastrophe?

hagbard_celine
27-01-2008, 12:04 PM
Here:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18268&highlight=asteroid

orsen
27-01-2008, 04:14 PM
Well the weather has been extremely windy over the last 2 weeks, especially over the last 2 days here in Edinburgh, jeeze!
The trajectory could well be edited by NASA, as most astronomers take there word and measurements as gospal.
Could this be more significant than they make it out to be, the electric universe theory looks plausable!

sexi_co
28-01-2008, 07:21 PM
So, its 6.17pm here in the uk, its around 15 hours away and still i have seen no evidence of anything strange happening as a result.

Have any of you?

sexi_co
28-01-2008, 07:22 PM
Well the weather has been extremely windy over the last 2 weeks, especially over the last 2 days here in Edinburgh, jeeze!


Its Scotland, its always cold and windy there!! :p

dondaz
28-01-2008, 10:16 PM
So why has this satilite suddenly came into the picture of things at the same time?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18728

Just a coincidence or what?

ichi wa zen
28-01-2008, 10:50 PM
Oh, it seems like we are going to die.

This will be my last message on this forum.

NOT!

Next thread!

morphix
28-01-2008, 11:49 PM
So why has this satilite suddenly came into the picture of things at the same time?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18728

Just a coincidence or what?

Don't forget the one thats aimed at Mars as well called 2007 WD5 I think it is scheduled to hit on Jan 30th not sure 100% theres other threads its mentioned in though :)

Nothing above the sky in the north west (UK) at present though although thinking about it theres no stars where I am at the moment either, not a very clear night :(

them
28-01-2008, 11:53 PM
the electric universe theory looks plausable!

What makes you say that?


http://www.vinylrecords.ch/E/EA/Earth_Wind_Fire/Electric/electric_universe_13.jpg (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_XOY7lsBVpo)

sexi_co
28-01-2008, 11:59 PM
11pm UK time - Still nothin to report.

:(

orsen
29-01-2008, 12:57 AM
What makes you say that?


http://www.vinylrecords.ch/E/EA/Earth_Wind_Fire/Electric/electric_universe_13.jpg (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_XOY7lsBVpo)

Yeah I forgot about earth wind & fire, the bands name say's alot, but i guess the electric universe theory looks like something we earthlings can connect to.
The way everthing has a positive and negative, and we look at how this works in micro & macro seems to me why these positive and negative charges can be picked up in space in much the same way.
:)

nsa_
29-01-2008, 01:33 AM
11pm UK time - Still nothin to report.

:(

That's because nothing will happen and nothing is expected to (well, scaremongerers are expecting things, but the rest of the world keeps on spinning).

morphix
29-01-2008, 01:59 AM
That's because nothing will happen and nothing is expected to (well, scaremongerers are expecting things, but the rest of the world keeps on spinning).

I dont think anyone is expecting anything to happen there just questioning the possability of it.

If that makes them a scaremongerer I'd love to hear your views on good ole george dubba ;)

rasnalgoul
29-01-2008, 02:06 AM
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/01/080124192818.htm

check out the times at which it is expected to pass.
"The asteroid, believed to be between 150 meters (500 feet) and 610 meters (2,000 feet) in size, is expected to fly past Earth on Jan. 29, with its closest distance being about 537,500 kilometers (334,000 miles) at 12:33 a.m. Pacific time (3:33 a.m. Eastern time)."

33 333 coincidence? ooooo boy hehehehehe

nsa_
29-01-2008, 02:14 AM
I dont think anyone is expecting anything to happen there just questioning the possability of it.


Well you have to question why this particular asteroid would cause all this devastation and not the other 2000 Near Earth Objects and the other 40,000 known asteroids and comets. Not to mention all of the other close-passes in the Earth's history that didn't do anything.

Oh, and here's a good fact that's kind of relevant. Despite the claims I've heard of NASA covering up the proximity of this asteroid's pass, the US Government are the only people who take the threat of asteroid clollisions seriously and have dedicated time to sniffing them out (most of which are military resources).

morphix
29-01-2008, 02:18 AM
Oh, and here's a good fact that's kind of relevant. Despite the claims I've heard of NASA covering up the proximity of this asteroid's pass, the US Government are the only people who take the threat of asteroid clollisions seriously and have dedicated resources to sniffing them out.

A fact...about the...US government :eek:

Either way tis wrong to put people into box's for disagreeing / questioning in my eyes :)

I don't recall anyone claiming this is 100% going to cause any devistation - me personally I'm hoping for a light show of sorts if anything.

Would love to know (not what they tell us - the truth) what dedicated resources the US government have in space though, that is a good question.

nsa_
29-01-2008, 02:32 AM
A fact...about the...US government :eek:

Either way tis wrong to put people into box's for disagreeing / questioning in my eyes :)

I wasn't putting them into boxes, but do you really belive that this website (http://www.tu24.org/) isn't scaremongering? Watch the video on the bottom-right of the page - total rubbish.

Would love to know (not what they tell us - the truth) what dedicated resources the US government have in space though, that is a good question.

It is a good question and one that I think we all to often leave to Hollywood to fill in the blanks.

qasrose
29-01-2008, 02:52 AM
let us all hope it does zoom past the earth, lol. if not where all doomed

morphix
29-01-2008, 02:53 AM
I wasn't putting them into boxes, but do you really belive that this website (http://www.tu24.org/) isn't scaremongering? Watch the video on the bottom-right of the page - total rubbish.

I've just been through the threads I can see about this on this web site and so far your the only person that has linked me or anyone else to that site / page.

So no i don't call it scaremongering or anything else as I haven't watched it yet.

If you weren't putting anyone into box's then I apologise for suggesting that you were however to disregard anyone that questions what you beleive at label it scaremongering in my eyes is putting people into box's. If that isnt what you were implying then again my apologise :)



It is a good question and one that I think we all to often leave to Hollywood to fill in the blanks.

Well I'd rather not but getting the truth out of the government might take a while, as you said you knew for a fact that the US government were the ones most concerned with asteroid's and coliisions and knew that they had the most dedicated resources in this field I thought maybe you had some inside knowledge to share, if not ill go and watch cocoon or something else that may fill me and my fragile, impressionable mind in on the facts ;)

hagbard_celine
29-01-2008, 10:26 AM
The asteroid is due to reach its closest point of approach in about 5 minutes from the time of this post. Surely we'd be feeling some ill effects by now.

hagbard_celine
29-01-2008, 10:28 AM
Don't forget the one thats aimed at Mars as well called 2007 WD5 I think it is scheduled to hit on Jan 30th not sure 100% theres other threads its mentioned in though

There are. And you're right. What's more astronomers have said that there is a disinct chance that the Mars asteroid will impact on the planet. That's tomorrow.
:eek::eek:

majicdragon
29-01-2008, 11:22 AM
We're still here? Well what gives? No plasma discharge? I thought this asteroid was supposed to have supernatural powers... Nancy!

morphix
29-01-2008, 11:52 AM
Bah i slept through it it : /

Oh wells lucky me I didn't miss the apocolypse :D

Wonder if it was viewable from anywhere?

somewarez
29-01-2008, 11:57 AM
Buy your "I've Survived a near miss!" T-Shirts here :D

Hopefully it won't do a handbrake turn and come back for another attempt ;)

morphix
29-01-2008, 12:01 PM
We're still here? Well what gives? No plasma discharge? I thought this asteroid was supposed to have supernatural powers... Nancy!

Wheres the discussion abut it wiping us out / having supernatural powers?

Does anybody know if it did just "whizz past us" or weather it exploded like Holmes did before it?

hagbard_celine
29-01-2008, 12:44 PM
Buy your "I've Survived a near miss!" T-Shirts here :D

Hopefully it won't do a handbrake turn and come back for another attempt ;)


If it does I've got some beers in the fridge ready!:D I'll invite my friends round as it's turning!

father ted
29-01-2008, 01:00 PM
I think this is an artificial object or artificially aimed to fly past Earth.

sexi_co
29-01-2008, 04:22 PM
It was light here when it passed. Did any of you get to see it pass in the dark? Did you see any light phenomina or anythin? We in the UK didnt see diddly squat unfortunately.

:(

john white
29-01-2008, 08:32 PM
So why has this satilite suddenly came into the picture of things at the same time?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18728

Just a coincidence or what?

Its the cover story being thrown out in case the rock hits

majicdragon
29-01-2008, 11:08 PM
Wheres the discussion abut it wiping us out / having supernatural powers?

Does anybody know if it did just "whizz past us" or weather it exploded like Holmes did before it?

It was supposed to have electrical powers previously not seen in space-rocks

Tunguska event was probably wind related and had little or nothing to do with a plasma discharge... but I'm one person, so what do I know.

majicdragon
29-01-2008, 11:25 PM
Its the cover story being thrown out in case the rock hits

Maybe, but they predict this satellite crashing a whole month later. If it's a cover incase of a meteor strike, perhaps there is another meteor on the way that we're not being informed about... Otherwise, these two-incidences are coincidences.

commondreamer
30-01-2008, 12:16 AM
It was supposed to have electrical powers previously not seen in space-rocks

Tunguska event was probably wind related and had little or nothing to do with a plasma discharge... but I'm one person, so what do I know.

It is also interesting to not that Tesla was testing an energy weapon that was to bounce scaler energy of the ionosphere at about the same time. Directing the energy towards the north polar region, where Admiral Bird was exploring at the time.

In 1907 and 1908, Tesla wrote about the destructive effects of his energy transmitter. His Wardenclyffe facility was much larger than the Colorado Springs device that destroyed the power station's generator. Then, in 1915, he stated bluntly:

It is perfectly practical to transmit electrical energy without wires and produce destructive effects at a distance. I have already constructed a wireless transmitter which makes this possible. ... But when unavoidable [it] may be used to destroy property and life. The art is already so far developed that the great destructive effects can be produced at any point on the globe, defined beforehand with great accuracy (emphasis added).(30)

He seems to confess to such a test having taken place before 1915, and, though the evidence is circumstantial, Tesla had the motive and the means to cause the Tunguska event. His transmitter could generate energy levels and frequencies capable of releasing the destructive force of 10 megatons, or more, of TNT. And the overlooked genius was desperate.

The nature of the Tunguska event, also, is consistent with what would happen during the sudden release of wireless power. No fiery object was reported in the skies at that time by professional or amateur astronomers as would be expected when a 200,000,000 pound object enters the atmosphere at tens of thousands miles an hour. Also, the first reporters, from the town of Tomsk, to reach the area judged the stories about a body falling from the sky was the result of the imagination of an impressionable people. He noted there was considerable noise coming from the explosion, but no stones fell. The absence of an impact crater can be explained by there having been no material body to impact. An explosion caused by broadcast power would not leave a crater.

In contrast to the ice comet collision theory, reports of upper atmosphere and magnetic disturbances coming from other parts of the world at the time of and just after the Tunguska event point to massive changes in earth's electrical condition. Baxter and Atkins cite in their study of the explosion, The Fire Came By, that the Times of London editorialized about "slight, but plainly marked, disturbances of ... magnets," which the writer, not knowing then of the explosion, associated with solar prominences.(31)




http://prometheus.al.ru/english/phisik/onichelson/tunguska.htm

http://www.tfcbooks.com/articles/tunguska.htm

them
30-01-2008, 11:37 AM
So.. there it is.. gone..

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2008/30jan08/Wiggins1_strip2.gif

kashmirz
30-01-2008, 12:33 PM
Simply Beautiful :)

Thanks for that them :D

morphix
30-01-2008, 01:54 PM
Tunguska event was probably wind related and had little or nothing to do with a plasma discharge... but I'm one person, so what do I know.

This confused the crap out of me to be honest, had no idea what you were talking about when you mentioned Tunguska (looking into it now though and its very interesting) only thing I don't understand is why you mention it in this thread? I'm reading some stuff about it now and I don't see any mention of plasma discharge about it - if I'm missing something please enlighten me.

On a side note though I think the whole idea of Tesla's weapons is very interesting. Cant find out much about them though so if anyone has any links would be great :)

Also did anyone find out what happened to this asteroid, did it keep going or did it explode?

them
30-01-2008, 02:20 PM
Also did anyone find out what happened to this asteroid, did it keep going or did it explode?

Asteroid 2007 TU24 passed by the Earth yesterday, posing no danger. The space rock, estimated to be about 250 meters across, coasted by just outside the orbit of Earth's Moon. The passing was not very unusual -- small rocks strike Earth daily, and in 2003 a rock the size of a bus passed inside the orbit of the Moon, being detected only after passing. TU24 was notable partly because it was so large. Were TU24 to have struck land, it might have caused a magnitude seven earthquake and left a city-sized crater. A perhaps larger danger would have occurred were TU24 to have struck the ocean and raised a large tsunami. This radar image was taken two days ago. The Arecibo Radio Telescope in Puerto Rico broadcast radar that was reflected by the asteroid and then recorded by the Byrd Radio Telescope in Green Bank, West Virginia. The resulting image shows TU24 to have an oblong and irregular shape. TU24 was discovered only three months ago, indicating that other potentially hazardous asteroids might lurk in our Solar System currently undetected. Objects like TU24 are hard to detect because they are so faint and move so fast. Humanity's ability to scan the sky to detect, catalog, and analyze such objects has increased notably in recent years.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html

Here it is, phix, continuing on it's cosmic dance.

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2008/30jan08/Saied-Bahrami-Nezhad-2007-TU24-p_1201651690.gif

It'll be back.. for a better understanding, see motion (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_(physics)).

http://www.tlt.ab.ca/projects/Div4/Grade10/UniformMotion/Image18.gif

morphix
30-01-2008, 02:52 PM
Thanks Them, appreciated :)

ichi wa zen
30-01-2008, 06:44 PM
LOOK ASTEROID, WE ARE ALL DEAD.

Oh wait figment of my imagination. Sorry, it was nothing. Next ASTEROID please!

majicdragon
30-01-2008, 09:27 PM
This confused the crap out of me to be honest, had no idea what you were talking about when you mentioned Tunguska (looking into it now though and its very interesting) only thing I don't understand is why you mention it in this thread? I'm reading some stuff about it now and I don't see any mention of plasma discharge about it - if I'm missing something please enlighten me.

On a side note though I think the whole idea of Tesla's weapons is very interesting. Cant find out much about them though so if anyone has any links would be great :)

Also did anyone find out what happened to this asteroid, did it keep going or did it explode?

Sorry for the confusion morphix. It's just that there were people saying that
Tunguska may have been an event having to do with an asteroid that could have released a plasma discharge... so I was thinking that it was probably not a plasma discharge, but just wind. However, this stuff about Tesla sounds plausible now that it has been brought to my attention by commondreamer.

I also would love to see some good Tesla links. I've googled Tesla before, but there is so much useless introductory info and nothing that I could find that was comprehensive.



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danasti
30-01-2008, 11:56 PM
On a side note though I think the whole idea of Tesla's weapons is very interesting. Cant find out much about them though so if anyone has any links would be great :)



Personally, I don't find a Tesla "weapon" (or whatever) even remotely plausible for what happened in Tunguska in 1908. It flattened 80 million trees and 800 square miles. New york city to Boston covers about 200 miles. Iridium was found in "microscopic glass spheres" at Tunguska in soil samples during 1950s and 1960s and confirmed later. Finding it scattered and tiny lends solid credibility to the theory that it was an explosion of a rock or a rock-ice combo from space that happened well above the earth's surface. It certainly is plausible in my view that an object from space could have exploded violently above ground without leaving a crater.

Another major problem with the theory of Tesla shooting something from Long Island to Tunguska only to say, "what's up buddy?!" (but instead setting off the largest manmade explosion in history, ooops!) is that many dates and events used to make the case don't line up. In 1903 the tower couldn't be finished due to a serious design error. In 1904 J.P. Morgan and other major investors cut off funding. In 1905 many of Tesla's patents ran out and he was unable to fund Wardenclyffe. When Tesla couldn't find backers he shut down almost all further activity. He laid off employees in 1906 though parts of the building were used until 1907. It's hard to be sure just how "finished" the tower was that allegedly sent the remote controlled explosion into Tunguska.

The "Peace Ray" or "teleforce" he worked on much later in his career. The focus on military defense or weaponry was also mostly at a much later point in his life. Alot of the information linking Tesla to Tunguska merges everything he ever did into one morning of 1908.

The conspiracy story goes like this: "It's 7:17 AM on the morning of June 30, 1908, the exact moment when Nikoli Tesla is testing his "Death Ray".... The realily goes something like: "In 1931 Tesla announced to reporters at a press conference that he was on the verge of discovering an entirely new source of energy. Asked to explain the nature of the power, he replied, "The idea first came upon me as a tremendous shock... I can only say at this time that it will come from an entirely new and unsuspected source." "... It wasn't until 1934 that this was labeled his "Death Ray" or "Death Beam" but Tesla called it the "Peace Ray".



Also did anyone find out what happened to this asteroid, did it keep going or did it explode?



It kept going right along. If it would have exploded it would have been huge news. :)

morphix
31-01-2008, 12:24 AM
Another major problem with the theory of Tesla shooting something from Long Island to Tunguska only to say, "what's up buddy?!" (but instead setting off the largest manmade explosion in history, ooops!)

ROFLMAO


If it would have exploded it would have been huge news. :)

Doh!

Had a right Homer moment then :)

The info above is great though (and appreciated) have read a few bits I've found on Tunguska after Majicdragon mentioned it and I've always been interested in Tesla so cant wait to dig around in those two subjects and find out more.

Just started reading the Mayan Prophecies though so Tesla with have to wait a day or two i think :(