Some folks visualise rain and some visualise war!

[edelweiss pirate]

To the folks who are posting endless nonsense about WW3 and the inevitability of a horrible death and all the rest of it..


Please think a moment and remember that our thoughts create our reality.

Every invention, every act that we undertake began as a thought in our minds.

Thought therefore becomes reality.

If enough people think about ww3 then it will become reality in a similar way.

How about we stop trying to manifest the end of the world eh? Rain in Waggawagga is a better plan.

[jagalman]

To the folks who are posting endless nonsense about WW3 and the inevitability of a horrible death and all the rest of it..

Unfortunaly we live in Reality!! This is not a Dream!! and thing's are happening whether we like it or not it's happening!!

I think you should talk with David icke about this, because he predicted WORLD WAR 3!!

cheers!!

[tinmenace]

Pirate is right. Everything begins with a thought. If someone sees a river and imagines a bridge over it....then he talks to the next person that designs it.... and then the next person builds it and voila!....we have a bridge.

EVERYTHING begins with thought and if you invite the thought of war, then you're thinking it into being. Quantum Physics tells us this.

...because he predicted WORLD WAR 3!!

So has everyone else, the difference is that David believes that it doesn't have to be that way. We have the power to change it. It starts with each individual, and the first thing you have to do is let go of hatred and negative emotions...walk away from the prison that holds you hostage with those hateful thoughts.





Nothing will end war unless the people themselves refuse to go to war. - Albert Einstein

[tinmenace]

Unfortunaly we live in Reality!!


By the way, reality can be changed. The truth never changes but reality can be changed.

Sometimes I wonder what your agenda is Jagalman? You're quite an angry person and you come across as someone that is horribly trapped and resentful to those that are free.

What's your story?

[edelweiss pirate]

I might have upset him because I was a little bit rude about his thread.

I hope we're all still cool. But we've all gotta get together to ensure this war does not happen.

[jagalman]

Sometimes I wonder what your agenda is Jagalman? You're quite an angry person and you come across as someone that is horribly trapped and resentful to those that are free.

What's your story?


I am angry to much because what EUROPEAN'S-USA-ISRAEL did to us (Lebanese) i am a sample person Born and lived in WAR!! havent you really watched TV last year and see what Israel-US-BRITISH did to us and to my people to my country to our economy, i dont want to open this discussion again!!

My agenda is to show up the EVIL side of EUROPEANS-USA-BRITISH-ISRAELIS Dictator's!! who hide behind the Human right's!!

so what do u expect!!

[i am all i am]

Unfortunaly we live in Reality!! This is not a Dream!! and thing's are happening whether we like it or not it's happening!!

I think you should talk with David icke about this, because he predicted WORLD WAR 3!!

cheers!!

David Icke is perfect, but that doesn't mean that he is infallible.

Que sera sera,
What ever will be, will be,
The future's not ours to see,
Que sera sera,

I am sure that if anyone was able to predict the future they would be millionaires. If I could, I know I would. The lottery would be the first thing that would make you millions.

Patterns can be seen, but to predict exactly what will occur, you would have to understand what the sum total of the ingredients of the total of ALL THAT IS will be. If you do not know what everything in creation is adding in to ALL THAT IS, how can you know exactly what will happen ???

Of course REALITY is a DREAM, you just haven't woken up to that fact yet. As David Icke says, infinite love is all there is, everything else is an illusion. It's just a dream that you have no control over until you wake up to the fact that you are creating your reality/dream.


With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[jagalman]

As David Icke says, infinite love is all there is, everything else is an illusion. It's just a dream that you have no control over until you wake up to the fact that you are creating your reality/dream.

That's true!! But what we have to do? we live in a real world, when stronger eat weaker!!

[deca]

yeah to much time spent on doom and gloom not enough spent on what we can do for ourselfs or others. How much more do we need to prove our world is not right people should not be homeless starving ,born into a war zone. Our goverments leaders or who ever is pilling the strings is screwing this planet up and the things that live here. Lets focus on what we can do, we all have our uniqe talents. Bugs life comes to mind lets get rid of all thease hoppers plaguing our wondress world.They a fighting us on many levels.Once people see that our lives are full of love and happness they will soon look to us and open there minds to a better way of doing things.

[jagalman]

yeah to much time spent on doom and gloom not enough spent on what we can do for ourselfs or others. How much more do we need to prove our world is not right people should not be homeless starving ,born into a war zone. Our goverments leaders or who ever is pilling the strings is screwing this planet up and the things that live here. Lets focus on what we can do, we all have our uniqe talents. Bugs life comes to mind lets get rid of all thease hoppers plaguing our wondress world.They a fighting us on many levels.Once people see that our lives are full of love and happness they will soon look to us and open there minds to a better way of doing things.


You see!! i am not juddjing anyone all i am trying to do is delivering our case!
and dont worry, we are full of hopes!! :D

[i am all i am]

That's true!! But what we have to do? we live in a real world, when stronger eat weaker!!

My agenda is to show up the EVIL side of EUROPEANS-USA-BRITISH-ISRAELIS Dictator's!! who hide behind the Human right's!!


G'day Jagalman,

The first thing that you can do is change your agenda. By focusing your energy on the 'dictators', you are giving/supplying them with your energy. This will only strengthen them.

Free your thoughts and focus your energy into learning and understanding what it is that you can do and achieve. There is a lot of positive things that you can gain from this forum. I recommend that you read through 'The Forum Experiment' thread as the second thing you could do. This will help you gain a new perspective and understanding.


With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[jagalman]

Free your thoughts and focus your energy into learning and understanding what it is that you can do and achieve. There is a lot of positive things that you can gain from this forum. I recommend that you read through 'The Forum Experiment' thread as the second thing you could do. This will help you gain a new perspective and understanding.


With LOVE.

I am!! :D cheers
but the problem is that we live in reality! and reality it's hard!!

[i am all i am]

I am!! :D cheers
but the problem is that we live in reality! and reality it's hard!!

There are ways to change your reality. When you understand how this can happen, reality won't be so hard.

I understand that it isn't easy for you at the moment, but only through understanding your full potential will you be able to make the choices necessary to achieve that which you desire.


With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[sean~infinte]

the hole point of realitys is so it can be changed

david icke only mentioned third world war as them "wanting to start a third world war" same with the microchip hes giving us knowledge so we can change it paradise is only a thought away

im not sure whether u belive that we are in control here, but thats why the illuminadi have to use our power for there will

[i am all i am]

If you would like to continue our debate, I suggest we do it on your 7 7 7 thread instead of hijacking this thread.


With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[jagalman]

I think it's easy for everyone to talk because they arent down there at the bottom of the well!!

:D

[tinmenace]

I think it's easy for everyone to talk because they arent down there at the bottom of the well!!

:D

Right! Your reality is very different to a privileged person growing up in America. Totally, I totally understand that. But you see, they feed off your anger. This is why they do what they do. This is how they gain strength, this is why there is never peace and this is why everyone is constantly inciting war and hatred.

If we stop giving them the very energy that they need in order to function, then they LOSE and we win. You were born in Lebanon, I was born in Namibia, it's far apart, but we're connected. You are a part of me and I'm a part of you, and by inciting hatred you're only hurting yourself (and me) because we are all connected, we are all one.

They want to divide and conquer mankind and if you buy into their crap by hating your fellow mankind then you're handing over the victory to them. Only when they can no longer use hatred and anger to make us kill each other...only then will they lose power. So stop letting them manipulate you.

Trust me, they aren't the ones in the battle field. They're the ones bending our minds with misinformation that makes us angry and hateful and ready to murder each other for their agenda.

Can you not see how we're being played?

[king]

To the folks who are posting endless nonsense about WW3 and the inevitability of a horrible death and all the rest of it..


Please think a moment and remember that our thoughts create our reality.

Every invention, every act that we undertake began as a thought in our minds.

Thought therefore becomes reality.

If enough people think about ww3 then it will become reality in a similar way.

How about we stop trying to manifest the end of the world eh? Rain in Waggawagga is a better plan.

I agree!
after you dissect a bit prophecies and predictions (religious or otherwise) you will begin to realize that there are some people who push those 'propethic ideas' in the mainstream (mostly via religions, because... hey -- "it is word of God")

when such idea is discriminated they try to direct humanity in such direction.

I really believe that humanity can go in any direction, and if enough people with positive intent would visualize
peace and love for all planet -- then this intent would materialize.

conversely, if enough people visualize WW3 -- then that would be pushed into existence, because thought is the mother (matter) of creation. Mother = matter, see?

perfect example of how thought creates reality is manifested by the Jewish Masonic Zionists with their attempts to bring their Messiah (their political/spiritual leader) into existence.
And, if we take in consideration that many have tried to create "moon child" (the Antichrist) we can see that
someone is desperately trying to fulfill the prophecy
in which Antichrist rules the world.

and, my feeling is that those who use occult powers are doing so to increase odds that their plans materialize.

because, if only 1 % more of the people would awaken to their true powers -- the game would be over for PTBs, in a heartbit.

now, tell religious people that their prophecies may be false and may not be the word of god but word of deceivers, importers, crooks who most likely have wrote it in attempt to impersonate God.

[king]

tinmenace,

well said bro
I wholeheartedly agree that this is so.
but, i do not think that they necessarily they need anger, strife, hate and other negative emotions to 'feed' off them,
but, once we use those emotions to fight each other -- we are blind to see the strings attached to us.

for example, if a politician (that they put in power in first place) decides not to fight with opposing party, but to find a workable solutions, or God forbid -- work for the peeople -- he is a dead meat.
They need us to be at each other's throats for their system to work!
As long as we fight with each other about politics, countries, religions or what have you -- their agenda advances and we loose.

Only when they can no longer use hatred and anger to make us kill each other...only then will they lose power. So stop letting them manipulate you.
brilliant!
that is exactly how i feel!

They want to divide and conquer mankind and if you buy into their crap by hating your fellow mankind then you're handing over the victory to them.

Trust me, they aren't the ones in the battle field. They're the ones bending our minds with misinformation that makes us angry and hateful and ready to murder each other for their agenda.

excellent
:bow:


Can you not see how we're being played?

we are being played like violins

[oneofmany]

What the hell are you doing on his official forum then? Your quite willing to bag him and use him :rolleyes: Unbelievable mate

[sean~infinte]

u say david icke is as bad as religion but he doensnt impose his views on the people watching or reading

as for this greate consciouness meaning god right? well see because of this belief and im not saying ur wrong gfg u wont realy agree with icke

but my belief or what i see as truth is that as tht old cliche goes "infinte love is the only truth everything else is illusion" my truth is that everything is all possibility and thers a reason why we are always in eligion and science patronised as being nothing or not as good as a supreme being

[thirdwave]

... its juts your view on Icke.... many others do not feel brainwashed by him at all..... if you feel he is brainwashing you, then fare enough he is not your thing, but to claim we are all brainwashed by him is very wrong in my view..

in the past David has done loads for me, and I will always have respect for him for that.... and his work gets many many people interested in looking deeper into the events of the world which can only be a good thing...

[tinmenace]

If anyone puts David's name and "brainwash" or "disciple" in the same sentence then they clearly have not read any of David's books, and if they did, they sure didn't comprehend any of it.

David doesn't tell you what to think. He provides information that you have a right to know about. What you do with that information and how you process it is up to you. You can even reject it if you want. It's your own decision.

This is the thing about people that know nothing about David and his books... they scream and shout about something they clearly know NOTHING about which exposes them as absolute fools and frauds


Ho hum.... :rolleyes:

[sean~infinte]

hey

i to agree that this world has massive possibility and potential it is indeed a great time to be alive and it is a wonderfull planet look at the things we have and just image how better that is going to be in the future we realy should focus on that ay guys

wonderin when world war three is gona start and/or whos a reppie is suitin the control perfectly

and indeed in this world balance is a key ying and yang maybe as mtsar said thers gona be a lot of dark things being brought up
and gfg i dont think u have to apologise its ur view at the end of the day it wouldnt be a forum without urs and other peoples unique view/opinion

its funny cos i see all of this as a signal that we have already won that what is ahead is positive u look at david icke who has revealed to us the agenda u look at the programs and things coming out on tv and this "law of attraction" system is in a lot of books right now see i belive things happen for a reason or at least coincidences do

[albie]

Do you think there's enough people here to go up against the sheeple who think war is coming?

The wolf trampled by the flock?

[tinmenace]

Do you think there's enough people here to go up against the sheeple who think war is coming?

The wolf trampled by the flock?

I think it's possible. However, it's the responsibility of each person to help get the news out. Point people in the right direction. The awakening process is a personal journey, so we can't force it on them, but we can help them, just like David's work has helped us - by providing the information that we all have a right to know is out there.

When information is suppressed, the light won't come on in people's heads. You have to lead them to the information, so know what you're talking about. Do further research, and don't unload on them. Give them just a taste. Some people's natural curiosity will take them the rest of the way, and others need a little more time and explanation before their tightly-bound straps snap off.

Always do it with love in your heart. There will be those that call you names and ridicule you (and trust me, they do!), but at no time should this make you angry, hateful or give up. Love will prevail if you persevere. The key is that people need to know NOW. Don't keep the secrets to yourself, talk to everyone that will listen. You'll be surprised how many people are actually looking for the last piece of the puzzle before their prison gates unlock.... before they give themselves permission to be free.

You have to help them. I have to help them. Humanity depends on it. So, get busy. ;)

[edelweiss pirate]

Do you think there's enough people here to go up against the sheeple who think war is coming?

The wolf trampled by the flock?


I don't think there's anything to worry about. I reckon people in the UK certianly don't want war.

Egypt (where I live at the moment) is a little more cause for concern as many Moslems believe that WW3 will take them all to paradise, they love life but they're so poor (by design?) that they feel that they have nothing to lose and everything to gain by leaving this world...

I told a guy that 9-11 was actually engineered and carried out by the Americans themselves, this caused him to reconsider his whole outlook because many believe it was actually carried out by Moslems.. and the 'self blame' they feel lead them to go further down the road to self justifcation and armed confrontation and destruction..

Not many of these folks get on the internet y'see, and most are brain numbed by football and excessive sugary tea consumption and backgammon...

[tru3]

I don't think there's anything to worry about. I reckon people in the UK certianly don't want war.

did anyone see "K-19: the widow maker"?

basically, it's based on actual events, where a soviet nuclear sub has a reactor meltdown, is disabled, and detected by u.s. subs.

the u.s. subs misinterpret k-19's manuevers, and the world moved right up to the brink of nuclear war. finally, the k-19 captain was ordered to launch, and he stood down. meanwhile, there's this awful carnage of radioactive poisoning, and unbelievable acts of heroism. we were much closer to annihalation in this instance than the cuban missile crisis.

it was a very moving story to me. it is my belief that, in the 11th hour, people will "stand down".

Russians"

In Europe and America, there's a growing feeling of hysteria
Conditioned to respond to all the threats
In the rhetorical speeches of the Soviets
Mr. Krushchev said we will bury you
I don't subscribe to this point of view
It would be such an ignorant thing to do
If the Russians love their children too

How can I save my little boy from Oppenheimer's deadly toy
There is no monopoly in common sense
On either side of the political fence
We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too

There is no historical precedent
To put the words in the mouth of the President
There's no such thing as a winnable war
It's a lie that we don't believe anymore
Mr. Reagan says we will protect you
I don't subscribe to this point of view
Believe me when I say to you
I hope the Russians love their children too

We share the same biology
Regardless of ideology
What might save us, me, and you
Is if the Russians love their children too

[tinmenace]

Misinterpreting is an understatement. Before you take on the task of discussing something that has taken some of us years to discover, why don't you do some catching up by reading some of David's books so that you will better understand where we're coming from. How can you expect someone to tell you everything there is to know (volumes full of info) in a forum posting? If you really want to know why we believe what we do (and why we refuse to budge), I suggest you do some reading. Do not expect people to spoon feed you information. You're not a robot, or are you? Only robots are programmed and told what to think and believe. The general idea is to uncover the truth for YOURSELF, and then you'll be convinced and truly free.

In the meantime, nobody here owes you an explanation about what they believe or how they feel. Not one! So, stop frustrating yourself by attempting to argue about something you haven't even begun to understand.



Yes, it's a lovely planet, nobody disagrees.



And, what exactly do you base that information on? And what exactly is god trying to teach us? And, do you think it's working? And, if you think it is, please give examples.....And, if you do no not think it's working can you tell us why not?

...god gave good and evil to teach (along with all polarities which are needed to create reality)...

Please define god. Tell me who/what you think god is.
Please define reality.

...suffering is part of growing...

Growing into what? Uncomfortably filling up the space inside your mental prison? Suffering is not necessary. We've just had it forced on us for so long that we think it's normal. Truth be told it's not normal and it's not necessary, and you're just perpetuating the lie by believing in it.

...i apologise to everyone...
You don't owe anyone an apology. You owe yourself the right to free your mind and your spirit...to overcome everything you've come to believe is reality. It's a hoax and it has to securely imprisoned. You should be apologizing to yourself.

To reason with you and disproove him so you cna all move past this level of consciouness his crap has pulled you into...

I find it amazing how angry you are at the people that are at peace with what they believe and that are free. You call it "his crap" but you don't eve know what you're talking about. That is the sign of a fully automated robot who just parrots what he hears everyone else saying without knowing what he's talking about. Before you continue to make an utter fool of yourself, I suggest you buy David's "The Biggest Secret" and loosen up those tight straps that are starving your brain of oxygen.[/B][/COLOR]