The Queen and the powers that be

[baron von lotsov]

Dr john Coleman stated that the establishment during Victorian times centred around Queen Victoria, the military and British Intelligence, which together ran the East India Company and its underlying syndicate. Eventually the East India Company was disbanded as a front as it was no longer needed since it was essentially an investment vehicle to get money from the land owning gentry into a syndicate that would be all-powerful. It was also connected to the House of Rothschild which was not just the Rothschild dynasty but was more of a front for a Jewish financial syndicate who made more and more money from central banking, along with much else and certainly monopolising raw material commodities.

So that is the history of it and he says the Queen has a seat on the Committee of 300 and it still a powerful player. However it looks increasingly like it to me the Queen is not entirely happy with things. She is not happy one bit with Mr & Mrs Blair, indeed she once invited them to a country shoot, I think it was, and realised what idiots they were and I think she quietly despises them greatly for what they have done to Britain. It seems the Queen is entirely dedicated to serving this country and my MP, who resigned over the Euro from a very prominent cabinet position was down on his luck in 1996 when he was made a member of the Privy Council. This is a lifetime membership as is the case with the Privy Council, which is one of the oldest institutions and serves the Queen in governing this country as opposed to Parliament.

Now there are a few factors to take into account when reading this link. What do you make of it? Is the Queen NWO or is she pro-Britain and if she is pro-Britain she cannot be NWO by definition. How much power does she have if she is not pro- NWO? I think she still has a lot of power myself and might be the next one to pull out. Russia has pulled out, we are still not using the Euro out of al the EU prisoners and America is pretty much with us in being increasingly anti-NWO. So who is still running this NWO now?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/140108_b_Queen.htm

[matrixcutter]

Dr john Coleman stated that the establishment during Victorian times centred around Queen Victoria, the military and British Intelligence, which together ran the East India Company and its underlying syndicate. Eventually the East India Company was disbanded as a front as it was no longer needed since it was essentially an investment vehicle to get money from the land owning gentry into a syndicate that would be all-powerful. It was also connected to the House of Rothschild which was not just the Rothschild dynasty but was more of a front for a Jewish financial syndicate who made more and more money from central banking, along with much else and certainly monopolising raw material commodities.

So that is the history of it and he says the Queen has a seat on the Committee of 300 and it still a powerful player. However it looks increasingly like it to me the Queen is not entirely happy with things. She is not happy one bit with Mr & Mrs Blair, indeed she once invited them to a country shoot, I think it was, and realised what idiots they were and I think she quietly despises them greatly for what they have done to Britain. It seems the Queen is entirely dedicated to serving this country and my MP, who resigned over the Euro from a very prominent cabinet position was down on his luck in 1996 when he was made a member of the Privy Council. This is a lifetime membership as is the case with the Privy Council, which is one of the oldest institutions and serves the Queen in governing this country as opposed to Parliament.

Now there are a few factors to take into account when reading this link. What do you make of it? Is the Queen NWO or is she pro-Britain and if she is pro-Britain she cannot be NWO by definition. How much power does she have if she is not pro- NWO? I think she still has a lot of power myself and might be the next one to pull out. Russia has pulled out, we are still not using the Euro out of al the EU prisoners and America is pretty much with us in being increasingly anti-NWO. So who is still running this NWO now?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/140108_b_Queen.htm
I have a feeling the queen is a monarchist.
Fuck the queen.

And if she's pro-Britain, why has she been surrendering British sovereignty to Brussels? One more, and then it's game over.

[pleasuredome]

nothing new in this story. did burrell really work for diana? imo, he is doing a good job in deflecting attention away from a conspiracy and saving face for the royals.

And if she's pro-Britain, why has she been surrendering British sovereignty to Brussels? One more, and then it's game over.

ditto

[steevo]

The Queen loves to rule Britain but she would love to rule Europe (and the world) even MORE. She is definitely NWO.

That link you posted Baron is about Paul Burrel and Diana, have you posted the right link ?

[91181]

Dr john Coleman stated that the establishment during Victorian times centred around Queen Victoria, the military and British Intelligence, which together ran the East India Company and its underlying syndicate. Eventually the East India Company was disbanded as a front as it was no longer needed since it was essentially an investment vehicle to get money from the land owning gentry into a syndicate that would be all-powerful. It was also connected to the House of Rothschild which was not just the Rothschild dynasty but was more of a front for a Jewish financial syndicate who made more and more money from central banking, along with much else and certainly monopolising raw material commodities.

So that is the history of it and he says the Queen has a seat on the Committee of 300 and it still a powerful player. However it looks increasingly like it to me the Queen is not entirely happy with things. She is not happy one bit with Mr & Mrs Blair, indeed she once invited them to a country shoot, I think it was, and realised what idiots they were and I think she quietly despises them greatly for what they have done to Britain. It seems the Queen is entirely dedicated to serving this country and my MP, who resigned over the Euro from a very prominent cabinet position was down on his luck in 1996 when he was made a member of the Privy Council. This is a lifetime membership as is the case with the Privy Council, which is one of the oldest institutions and serves the Queen in governing this country as opposed to Parliament.

Now there are a few factors to take into account when reading this link. What do you make of it? Is the Queen NWO or is she pro-Britain and if she is pro-Britain she cannot be NWO by definition. How much power does she have if she is not pro- NWO? I think she still has a lot of power myself and might be the next one to pull out. Russia has pulled out, we are still not using the Euro out of al the EU prisoners and America is pretty much with us in being increasingly anti-NWO. So who is still running this NWO now?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/january2008/140108_b_Queen.htm

Oh the queen is definatly NWO , As to who's running the show, the pic with the queen in black and the pope in white says A LOT...


http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/queen_pope.jpg

Elizabeth II showing her Servility to the POPE!


http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/Image32.gif

knights of malta symbols

[baron von lotsov]

The Queen loves to rule Britain but she would love to rule Europe (and the world) even MORE. She is definitely NWO.

That link you posted Baron is about Paul Burrel and Diana, have you posted the right link ?


Did you read the whole link? It is primary information so it's good to digest. Your statements are entirely groundless and conflict with the evidence I had presented. If you state something it is always a good idea to back it up because I think a lot of this conspiracy is missing something and until this dilemma is resolved it will continue to miss something. You can't resolve it just by making statements to the contrary without backup and this is the trap too many CT people make.

Why do we not have the Euro and how could the Queen possibly be going along with this agenda? Tony Blair was 100%, this is obvious, so why is the Queen so at odds with him, especially regarding socialism, which is something the Queen appears to hate. Why did the tabloids do such a demolition job on the Royal Family if the tabloids are NWO? You see, it does not add up.

[baron von lotsov]

Oh the queen is definatly NWO , As to who's running the show, the pic with the queen in black and the pope in white says A LOT...


http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/queen_pope.jpg

Elizabeth II showing her Servility to the POPE!


http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m202/anunnaki_2006/Image32.gif

knights of malta symbols


Yes and my girlfriend is a member of a Maltese noble family and was invited to a reception with the Queen twice when she hosted the Commonwealth Conference in Malta, once on board HMS Invincible where she also met up with Jack Straw and other British politicians. So you are not really telling me anything I don't know and it is true the Queen is very close to the Maltese. A friend of hers is a baron and he was made a Knight of St George by the Queen. Malta was run by the British up until the 1980s and there are many remnants of Britain in Malta, including post boxes and even their busses are British. Relations between the two countries are like best of friends.

Now what does that mean? The Queen likes the Catholics and maintains friendly relations with them. The odd thing is though Malta is not a police state and it is very anti-Communism and only just voted to join the EU, which I have been saying to her, is a mistake. It's not anything like as black and white as you people seem to think.

[steevo]

Did you read the whole link? It is primary information so it's good to digest. Your statements are entirely groundless and conflict with the evidence I had presented. If you state something it is always a good idea to back it up because I think a lot of this conspiracy is missing something and until this dilemma is resolved it will continue to miss something. You can't resolve it just by making statements to the contrary without backup and this is the trap too many CT people make.

Why do we not have the Euro and how could the Queen possibly be going along with this agenda? Tony Blair was 100%, this is obvious, so why is the Queen so at odds with him, especially regarding socialism, which is something the Queen appears to hate. Why did the tabloids do such a demolition job on the Royal Family if the tabloids are NWO? You see, it does not add up.

Yes I read the whole link. I am confused because the link seems to be about Diana and Burrell. Please confirm that this is the correct link.

[baron von lotsov]

Yes I read the whole link. I am confused because the link seems to be about Diana and Burrell. Please confirm that this is the correct link.



The link is correct. The important stuff in it is what the butler said. Do you think he was lying? I don't and in that case the assassination must have been ordered by someone else. I don't think it was the Queen personally and remember Dianna was from the House of Stewart, which is Catholic, and now we have some people believing that it is a Catholic conspiracy, which I'm generally in disagreement with.

To go back to Dr John Coleman he states that the Catholics now have a few seats on the Committee, which tends to imply if anything that they are minor players, which is where my position rests. I have observed the Catholic Church in recent years and they too are quite anti-NWO whereas the Church of England, if anything, appears to be more infiltrated. You can see this with all the homosexuals and women priests and having a Druid as the head of it. Can you see now that the situation is rather more complex and leaves a lot of questions unanswered? Why would there have been all those sex scandals and $100 million compensation against the Catholic Church in America if it was truly NWO, since they decide the verdict according to orthodox CT? To assume it is all one thing or all something else is not getting us anywhere because it plainly does not fit with reality.

[steevo]

The link is correct. The important stuff in it is what the butler said. Do you think he was lying? I don't and in that case the assassination must have been ordered by someone else. I don't think it was the Queen personally and remember Dianna was from the House of Stewart, which is Catholic, and now we have some people believing that it is a Catholic conspiracy, which I'm generally in disagreement with.

To go back to Dr John Coleman he states that the Catholics now have a few seats on the Committee, which tends to imply if anything that they are minor players, which is where my position rests. I have observed the Catholic Church in recent years and they too are quite anti-NWO whereas the Church of England, if anything, appears to be more infiltrated. You can see this with all the homosexuals and women priests and having a Druid as the head of it. Can you see now that the situation is rather more complex and leaves a lot of questions unanswered? Why would there have been all those sex scandals and $100 million compensation against the Catholic Church in America if it was truly NWO, since they decide the verdict according to orthodox CT? To assume it is all one thing or all something else is not getting us anywhere because it plainly does not fit with reality.

So, because YOU dont think Burrell was lying, then the assassination must have been carried out by someone else and not the Queen ? I personally think that what Burrell is saying is what he is told to say IMO and it is NOT the truth.

The Catholic Church and Church of England are pyramids of power. Their pyramid is probably inside a bigger pyramid etc There could be lots of reasons why those incidents are reported on the mainstream media about the churches and we can only try to come up with theories really I suppose.

In my opinion, MI6 probably killed Diana because it was in the interest of the Monachy and "Britain" and the NWO. Who runs the Military Inteligence ? The Queen ? Or is she just the figure head ? Either way she is involved.

[baron von lotsov]

So, because YOU dont think Burrell was lying, then the assassination must have been carried out by someone else and not the Queen ? I personally think that what Burrell is saying is what he is told to say IMO and it is NOT the truth.

The Catholic Church and Church of England are pyramids of power. Their pyramid is probably inside a bigger pyramid etc There could be lots of reasons why those incidents are reported on the mainstream media about the churches and we can only try to come up with theories really I suppose.

In my opinion, MI6 probably killed Diana because it was in the interest of the Monachy and "Britain" and the NWO. Who runs the Military Inteligence ? The Queen ? Or is she just the figure head ? Either way she is involved.

Burrell has been entirely consistent right the way through this. He has neither backed one side nor the other. He has said the same here as other places and it is certainly not what he has been told to say as he has, if anything, aroused more suspicion. However he has also maintained the Queen's innocence throughout so that it is the consistency that makes me thinks it is true. It also ties in perfectly with other observations I have made.

I still think it was British Intelligence that carried it out and I do know they are 100% NWO so this fits. What does not fit is that the Queen being entirely in control of British Intelligence and I think this could be the lead we should look into here. It seems British Intelligence and the CIA work together and they are in with the Neocons in America, I have no problem with that and the Queen is powerful in her influence throughout the world as a head of state. But she does not appear to be driving the EU, I really think the Queen is distancing herself from the EU and her diplomatic ties with Europe are on a much older basis and it is often family related. Interestingly that baron I was mentioning is of German descent so it figures that he should be recognised by the Queen. You see there are some barons that are and some that are not and it's roughly 50/50.

So she is certainly connected to the old power of Europe. A lot of it is Catholic but as I keep saying the Catholics are most notably anti-Communist which were set up by Jewish City of London Bankers. The Catholics actually helped the Nazis in Germany to escape because of this, since the war was really about the expansion of the Communists in order to form the USSR, something the Catholics were completely against. The EU follows this model and by extension the NWO.

You therefore have two completely different ideologies and they mix like oil is to water. There is no synthesis between Capitalism and Communism that I can see and the NWO is out to destroy the right wing and Capitalism, which is essentially what the Queen stands for. Indeed the NWO seems to want to destroy exactly what the Queen stands for. So how do you explain this? Furthermore another obvious enemy of the NWO is the Christian Church and the Queen is closely tied to this and so are the Catholics. There is certainly a split here somewhere and no one has even attempted to bother to look into this further and often brushes it all off with simplistic analogies like you say 'pyramids within pyramids' or to say it is the Catholic Church. It's not getting us any further by doing this.

[steevo]

Burrell has been entirely consistent right the way through this. He has neither backed one side nor the other. He has said the same here as other places and it is certainly not what he has been told to say as he has, if anything, aroused more suspicion. However he has also maintained the Queen's innocence throughout so that it is the consistency that makes me thinks it is true. It also ties in perfectly with other observations I have made.

Maybe he is telling half truths ? That is a tactic that they use to get us to believe all sorts of crap, "if he told the truth before, then he must be telling the truth now". I personally dont think he is telling the truth but MAYBE time will tell. From the media reports prior to the court case I would say that Burrell was afraid of the queen and TPTB so maybe that is why he is saying what he is saying now. He did the usual thing and went on the reality tv shows to up his profile so they can't bump him off so easily.

I still think it was British Intelligence that carried it out and I do know they are 100% NWO so this fits. What does not fit is that the Queen being entirely in control of British Intelligence and I think this could be the lead we should look into here. It seems British Intelligence and the CIA work together and they are in with the Neocons in America, I have no problem with that and the Queen is powerful in her influence throughout the world as a head of state. But she does not appear to be driving the EU, I really think the Queen is distancing herself from the EU and her diplomatic ties with Europe are on a much older basis and it is often family related. Interestingly that baron I was mentioning is of German descent so it figures that he should be recognised by the Queen. You see there are some barons that are and some that are not and it's roughly 50/50.

The modern day Royal family have always distanced themselves from politics (except on very rare occasions eg. Edward the 8th who abdicated. And Prince Charles causes controversy sometimes) .

So she is certainly connected to the old power of Europe. A lot of it is Catholic but as I keep saying the Catholics are most notably anti-Communist which were set up by Jewish City of London Bankers. The Catholics actually helped the Nazis in Germany to escape because of this, since the war was really about the expansion of the Communists in order to form the USSR, something the Catholics were completely against. The EU follows this model and by extension the NWO.
You therefore have two completely different ideologies and they mix like oil is to water. There is no synthesis between Capitalism and Communism that I can see and the NWO is out to destroy the right wing and Capitalism, which is essentially what the Queen stands for. Indeed the NWO seems to want to destroy exactly what the Queen stands for. So how do you explain this?
Furthermore another obvious enemy of the NWO is the Christian Church and the Queen is closely tied to this and so are the Catholics. There is certainly a split here somewhere and no one has even attempted to bother to look into this further and often brushes it all off with simplistic analogies like you say 'pyramids within pyramids' or to say it is the Catholic Church. It's not getting us any further by doing this.

I see them as two sides of the same coin, opposames. Yes maybe a simplistic analogies but that doesnt mean it's wrong. But we can REALLY only GUESS what their short term intentions are and what their REAL long term agenda is.
Maybe they needed to create a bad guy Saddam/Hitler/Stalin (al quaida/nazi/communism) so that they can forward their agenda.

I would say that the catholic church is run by the illuminati and agree with you Baron that if we concentrate only on the catholic church or other religious institutions then we are not gonna get very far, we need to see the bigger picture (but they ARE a pyramid inside a pyramid IMO :D)

[matrixcutter]

Baron, you might be interested in this:

Vyz/Keith interviews Coleman (author of The Committee of 300)
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=0OJ9QSV3

And in this one Adorno/The Beatles are discussed, and the host (who has just packed it in after a few years (http://www.vyzygoth.com/index.html)) discusses Coleman's work:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=9VDDOBDJ

(Coleman himself is only in the first one.)

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Lecture

Wake up America! - Dr. John Coleman (Illuminati, Committee of 300)
(1hr 43mins) (http://video.google.co.uk/url?docid=170819614143019768&esrc=sr1&ev=v&len=6209&q=john%2Bcoleman&srcurl=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.google.co.uk%2Fvideoplay %3Fdocid%3D170819614143019768&vidurl=%2Fvideoplay%3Fdocid%3D170819614143019768%2 6q%3Djohn%2Bcoleman%26total%3D439%26start%3D0%26nu m%3D10%26so%3D0%26type%3Dsearch%26plindex%3D0&usg=AL29H21QQ97Ah1g-xUC1WGFEHSYcU5GnhA)

Dr. John Coleman, being a historian in intelligence community, researched in full scope the sinister forces behind the New world order movement. This video lecture represents a culmination of his findings about secret societies which form this global movement and how it came into existence.

And someone mentioned the Lady Die assassination. You might be interested in the upcoming DVD from Chris Everard et al. (including messiahs Icke and Shayler) called Lady Die (http://www.ladydiedvd.com/). It will go into a lot of detail.

[lizzy]

I have a feeling the queen is a monarchist.
Fuck the queen.

And if she's pro-Britain, why has she been surrendering British sovereignty to Brussels? One more, and then it's game over.

hi MC.
Yup, and the NAU capital will be in Toronto, because their banking laws reflect those of Brussels , Game Over in the west. How long Russia can hold out, we will see.

[times7]

The queen is a puppet and nothing besides, no real power

The NWO capital will be from Jerusalem after the country called Israel is destroyed

[matrixcutter]

hi MC.
Yup, and the NAU capital will be in Toronto, because their banking laws reflect those of Brussels , Game Over in the west. How long Russia can hold out, we will see.
Hi Lizzy, happy new year.
I have heard that the NAU capital will be in Montreal - the real mountain (pyramid). But I guess we'll find out soon enough, by the end of 2010.

This time is interesting though isn't it. There are those who know what is coming, and those who don't know, and don't give a damn when those who do know try to warn them about what is coming. When those who know are proved right, those who ignored the warnings will be in a state of shock, literally. But it is becoming more apparent every week that totalitarianism is just around the corner, and the resistance will only get bigger. It just needs to know what it is really doing and what it really wants.

Those who know should put the information out there, as often and as efficiently as possible. And learn how to put it across to different people.

And we are always learning ourselves too.

[lizzy]

The queen is a puppet and nothing besides, no real power

The NWO capital will be from Jerusalem after the country called Israel is destroyed

Her wealth is vast, she may not attend Bilderberg pow-pows but she knows the Agenda. The NWO will quiet possiblly be controlled from Jerusalem through Brussels, the neo-con / jewish Elite had this in play from the Balfour Act onwards.
Burrell knew of Di's concerns for her safety, he knows MI5 carried it out, along with 7/7, but details are not in has perview, but he knows and so do the "royal" family now.
They did a Kennedy on her, public execution style, similar symbology,
all threats get neutralized.

[lizzy]

Hi Lizzy, happy new year.
I have heard that the NAU capital will be in Montreal - the real mountain (pyramid). But I guess we'll find out soon enough, by the end of 2010.

This time is interesting though isn't it. There are those who know what is coming, and those who don't know, and don't give a damn when those who do know try to warn them about what is coming. When those who know are proved right, those who ignored the warnings will be in a state of shock, literally. But it is becoming more apparent every week that totalitarianism is just around the corner, and the resistance will only get bigger. It just needs to know what it is really doing and what it really wants.

Those who know should put the information out there, as often and as efficiently as possible. And learn how to put it across to different people.

And we are always learning ourselves too.

hi MC,
yup, Montreal it is.
From Alan W. especially (thank U) I learn all the time.
Yes indeed, totalitarian tip toe is getting loud.
Let's hope their divide and rule technique fails this time , (but I can't even get my son to see it), and that gatekeepers see the harm they do.
love, lizzy.

[times7]

Her wealth is vast, she may not attend Bilderberg pow-pows but she knows the Agenda. The NWO will quiet possiblly be controlled from Jerusalem through Brussels, the neo-con / jewish Elite had this in play from the Balfour Act onwards.
Burrell knew of Di's concerns for her safety, he knows MI5 carried it out, along with 7/7, but details are not in has perview, but he knows and so do the "royal" family now.
They did a Kennedy on her, public execution style, similar symbology,
all threats get neutralized.


Hey Lizzi
hi

read your views on the crowley thread,never got a chance to respond due to the "thought police" on this forum

I cant disagree with all you have said above Lizzy,but when the Royal family got killed in France(bloodbath French revolution)

In Russia the Czar was killed (bloodbath) tens of millions murdered

The queen of England has no real power,or maybe that is wrong to say that in open light, if the Royal family are killed in England 2008 there will be a civil war in the UK,sounds crazy,dont underestimate the lessons of history

[intruder]

Daniel Estulin was speaking with Texe Marrs the other night. Mr. Estulin has published what many are calling the definitive book on The Bilderberg Group. The Queen IS a member yet she never attends. Prince Phillip has attended meetings but the Queen usually sends one of her lackeys. He also commented on the Rothchilds and was almost downplaying their power. He spoke of the Lazard Bros. (lizard bros?) as rivalling the Rothchilds in terms of wealth. Anyway, it was an intersesting discussion. Estulin said that "they" do desire a reduction in world population and that Alex Jones is on the right track.

[lizzy]

Hey Lizzi
hi

read your views on the crowley thread,never got a chance to respond due to the "thought police" on this forum

I cant disagree with all you have said above Lizzy,but when the Royal family got killed in France(bloodbath French revolution)

In Russia the Czar was killed (bloodbath) tens of millions murdered

The queen of England has no real power,or maybe that is wrong to say that in open light, if the Royal family are killed in England 2008 there will be a civil war in the UK,sounds crazy,dont underestimate the lessons of history

hi times7,
No , I think our royality will keep their heads, LOL.
I see it as the Czar was removed because he would'nt let the Rothchilde bankers in, so they fremented revolution against him and that a similiar situation was behind the French one as well. The banking powers used and manipulated hunger and distress, through pricing. The French royality were broke and stupid would'nt / could'nt feed the city folks, although they lived lavishly / opulently .
The Czar was'nt broke but his moves to bring Russia into the modern world were foiled / derailed to some extent by the Rothchilde bankers. They wanted Russias' callapse.
England caught on fast and allowed ecomonic / social progress earlier and allowed the Rothchildes to set up the Bank of England and print the money and make the profits that France and Russia denied them.

Who prints the money makes the laws.

Real power is'nt held in westminster or washington dc, are'nt they just the top tools the Elite bankers / wankers and muti-nationals now utilized to promote their agenda , the NWO, heraldiing until recently in London financial City, now Brussells, next Jerusalem?

But you might be right about her power , whatever her wealth 15 billion plus, if she were to really help her "people" tomorrow , it might make a big ripple but it would'nt stop this juggernaut, unless we do . It is going to be messy either way.


thanks, lizzy.

[dondaz]

This country has gone down the drain. Blair has ripped it to bits and Brown is putting the final touches to finish us off. Common Purpose has infiltrated almost all important areas of society and local governments. The police chiefs are absolute murdering criminals and normal coppers seem to not exist anymore. The ecomemy is being manipulated to con everyone out of their money, umenployment is through the roof and most of our laws are now being forced upon us by the fascist european union.

Does anyone think for one moment the British royality know nothing about all this happening?

Does the queen not know that signing all these treaties is literally handing over governance of our country to unelected people in the EU?

With all the connections the royals have do you think they don't know what most of us on this forum know about the police state and the fake war on terrorism and the invasion of the middle east?

They know nothing eh? They have been blagged by Blair and all the other prime ministers into signing away our nation, I WONDER WHAT THEY TOLD THE QUEEN TO GET HER TO DO THAT? And I suppose her own intellegence people were blagged too?

Those people running the vatican must be so clever and manipulative to be able to control the european and British royals, the Rockafellas and the Rothschild clan and all their bloodline families, very clever indeed!

Notice the subtle shade of sarcasm?

Baron, what you on mate? Has it made you forget about the child sacrifices they do and all the occultism they get up to on a regular basis? You're a well read man baron, and like me in my own way I suppose, you just need to do a bit more to be able to get a grip of some things sometimes.:cool:

And to think you wrote such insightful posts on happiness and brainwashing and other stuff that I have read of yours. We are all still asleep in places, I know I am. I just think you may need to do a bit more looking on this one.:rolleyes:

[lizzy]

This country has gone down the drain. Blair has ripped it to bits and Brown is putting the final touches to finish us off. Common Purpose has infiltrated almost all important areas of society and local governments. The police chiefs are absolute murdering criminals and normal coppers seem to not exist anymore. The ecomemy is being manipulated to con everyone out of their money, umenployment is through the roof and most of our laws are now being forced upon us by the fascist european union.

Does anyone think for one moment the British royality know nothing about all this happening?

Does the queen not know that signing all these treaties is literally handing over governance of our country to unelected people in the EU?

With all the connections the royals have do you think they don't know what most of us on this forum know about the police state and the fake war on terrorism and the invasion of the middle east?

They know nothing eh? They have been blagged by Blair and all the other prime ministers into signing away our nation, I WONDER WHAT THEY TOLD THE QUEEN TO GET HER TO DO THAT? And I suppose her own intellegence people were blagged too?

Those people running the vatican must be so clever and manipulative to be able to control the european and British royals, the Rockafellas and the Rothschild clan and all their bloodline families, very clever indeed!

Notice the subtle shade of sarcasm?

Baron, what you on mate? Has it made you forget about the child sacrifices they do and all the occultism they get up to on a regular basis? You're a well read man baron, and like me in my own way I suppose, you just need to do a bit more to be able to get a grip of some things sometimes.:cool:

And to think you wrote such insightful posts on happiness and brainwashing and other stuff that I have read of yours. We are all still asleep in places, I know I am. I just think you may need to do a bit more looking on this one.:rolleyes:

hi dondaz.
yes, they know, indeed how can they not?
white gloves, clean hands,( LOL) dirty hearts, evil minds.
Queenie knows exactly what is happening to the country.
Above the fray, LOL, wollowing in horse shit...they love it.
Good luck to you.

[somewarez]

A close family member reminded me of the alleged thefts of Items of Dianna's jewelery etc by Paul Burrell. Who pretty much got off with the charges after they were mysteriously dropped..

here is a wiki quote on it Paul Burrell - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia:- He was tried for theft in 2002 but the trial collapsed after evidence was given that Queen Elizabeth II had spoken with him regarding the disputed events. A public interest immunity (PII) certificate was presented by the Crown Prosecution Service which allowed the prosecution to apply to the judge for a ruling that disclosure of certain information would be harmful to the public interest and should not be made public.[1] The aftermath of the collapse of the trial led to the Burrell affair. [end quote]

Sounds like payback time to me, you got off now its your turn to get us off.


Some strange stuff indeed.

SW

[baron von lotsov]

hi MC.
Yup, and the NAU capital will be in Toronto, because their banking laws reflect those of Brussels , Game Over in the west. How long Russia can hold out, we will see.



America will be next. I'd give it 5 years. They know their constitution is heading for the bin and forewarned is forearmed. Also did you know that some people connected to the UKIP did some very obscure legal petition to the Queen, based on treason laws I think it was, concerning the EU. Word has it that they very nearly succeeded. The Queen was on the verge of pulling out of the EU! (It's mentioned by one of the audience in the first Brian Gerrish video)

[lizzy]

America will be next. I'd give it 5 years. They know their constitution is heading for the bin and forewarned is forearmed. Also did you know that some people connected to the UKIP did some very obscure legal petition to the Queen, based on treason laws I think it was, concerning the EU. Word has it that they very nearly succeeded. The Queen was on the verge of pulling out of the EU! (It's mentioned by one of the audience in the first Brian Gerrish video)

hi baron
forewarned......
yup, 5yrs , if that before NAU is known to the sleeping majority. It is already in writing, in the bin. Un troops when the outages / shortages / epidemics hit.
forearmed.........
I have been sitting on my backside here in the Pacific NW ( and I am a Brit who wants but can't come home,.. family and $ decline).
Time for me to buy my 5 acreas w/ water, plant and stock up.
If Queenie ever really wanted to keep the UK out , she really did'nt rock the boat much and Di is dead. Rule Britannia, LOL.
good luck baron

[baron von lotsov]

I'm sticking here in England to defend my country. Hopefully by building up a strong enough and well educated enough resistance I believe we can topple them. I also think that true Americans and true English will help each other fight the bent system because we both essentially believe in the same thing. There will be no divide and rule, that is what we must break down and seek out anyone who can help us. There are a lot of people wanting to help and they are everywhere. They are the press, they are people working in the government, the schools and anywhere else. Naturally the system won't know who they are and even people they trust will be secretly working against them. Already this knowledge is hurting them badly. Long may it continue.

[baron von lotsov]

This is another reason I suspect he is telling the truth. Someone is worried about him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=508508&in_page_id=1770

[theninja]

You are missing the point about the Queen, am not 100% about her but all of our laws, constitution (in the UK) are based on us having a monarchy. So if you want to defend yourself in a court against Council Tax, or parking fine etc and start fighting back against this corrupt government we need the queen in place. When we have sorted this mess out maybe there will be a time for the queen to go - but not yet.

[steevo]

The Diana inquest can only end one way (I think) with the Royals being "proved" totally innocent, otherwise people would always consider them suspects IMO and this would be a major thread to to future of the monarchy.

It seems to me that the inquest IN THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA is being put across to the sheeple like this :-

- If the defence can convince the sheeple (and the "jury" :rolleyes:) that Diana was NOT pregnant at the time of the "accident" then this must mean that the Royals/MI6 are innocent.

- If the defence can convince the public (and the "jury") that Diana had NOT planned to marry Dodi and had NOT planned to buy an engagement ring prior to the "accident" then the Royals/MI6 are innocent.

The mainstream media seems to be trying to shape our thinking.
I dont think that it really makes any difference whether she was pregnant or getting married because this does not prove whether or not she was murdered. TPTB are trying to make us think that THAT was the ONLY motive for her murder when it was obviously NOT. Burrell is pretending that the secrets he and Diana shared were already in the public domain, he has obviously been advised by TPTB to do this. Burrell is stupid because they will shut him up permanently one day because they ALWAYS do, he should speak out whilst he can but he is a typical wuss who lives in fear. The MSM are NOT reporting/investigating any REAL evidence that comes up in the trial, for example the Henri Paul hand signals to MI6 agents that came up a while back :-

henri paul hand signals - YouTube

[baron von lotsov]

What if the system is actually acting against the Queen because the Queen represents the old way and the new way is completely at odds with it? The old way, to remind you people, is that of nationalism and parliamentary democracy based on the ethics of the Christian Church. Blair has been a good little servant who has done a fair bit to discredit the church by calling himself a Christian while murdering a lot of Iraqis. Bush has done likewise for calling himself a Christian while murdering them although it looks like Bush was set up by British Intelligence and subsequently admitted he was mislead by intelligence.

To add to that Dianna exposed the British landmine operation and made them look absolute hypocrites of the first degree. Far from being a stupid and confused little woman, as the media now love to describe her, she single headedly created a movement against them far bigger even than the Ron Paul Revolution, since it was worldwide and backed by charities and the press. Now she was a figurehead of that and the most photographed woman in the world at the time. That was serious power, far greater than any opposition we have seen since. Naturally the marriage bullshit is an excellent diversion away from the real reason for her assassination. Also look into Al Fayed, which is not even his real name! This man worked for British Intelligence as a bagman and hence he became a billionaire and bought Harrods. During that time he was at war with Tiny Rowland. Who was Tiny Rowland??? Go and look it up!

[baron von lotsov]

It's time to start thinking rather than ignore threads you don't have a stock answer to!

[baron von lotsov]

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