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lostinstrangeworld

13-01-2008, 09:57 PM

tim the enchanter

13-01-2008, 10:25 PM

lostinstrangeworld

13-01-2008, 10:33 PM

"Work" is an absolute non-sequiter. It's not work, it's playing rigged games of chess with soulless bureaucratic puppetry. Find a way to make as much money or do as much good as you can without mortaly tying yourself down to anything you can't more or less just walk away from. Become self sufficient; your dreams and aspirations should be your lighthouse; determine your own goals.
Well put, thanks.

I don't really have any goals as such for myself, other than to keep learning, growing and have sufficient food and shelter!

I just hope that while I'm in this world I can make a difference and be as useful as I can when it comes to raising the consciousness of the population.

But I find myself somewhat lost as to what to do, other than spend my days more or less as a hermit (which allows me the freedom to be myself and explore the realm of the mind rather than shallow gossip) and sitting on the computer a lot, LOL. :D

I feel I need to find a way to be a bit more useful though, to get out and meet interesting people.

In a way, I look forward to the day when I can sod off and leave the 3rd dimension altogether, if you catch my drift.

rossus

13-01-2008, 10:34 PM

if you don't want to work for yourself, work for others.

plenty of people who work slavejobs or would love to work slavejobs but can't because they're left rotting by the manipulators ;)

lostinstrangeworld

13-01-2008, 10:37 PM

f you don't want to work for yourself, work for others.

plenty of people who work slavejobs or would love to work slavejobs but can't because they're left rotting by the manipulators

I need to feel I'm making a difference somehow, not just another cog in the system.

masonfree party

13-01-2008, 10:40 PM

join up with others in beautiful surroundings http://www.wwoof.org/wwoof_uk/join.html

tim the enchanter

13-01-2008, 10:43 PM

Well put, thanks.

I don't really have any goals as such for myself, other than to keep learning, growing and have sufficient food and shelter!

That's a good start.

I just hope that while I'm in this world I can make a difference and be as useful as I can when it comes to raising the consciousness of the population.

But I find myself somewhat lost as to what to do, other than spend my days more or less as a hermit (which allows me the freedom to be myself and explore the realm of the mind rather than shallow gossip) and sitting on the computer a lot, LOL. :D

I feel I need to find a way to be a bit more useful though, to get out and meet interesting people.

Maybe you need to free up more time for yourself. What do you do for a living?

In a way, I look forward to the day when I can sod off and leave the 3rd dimension altogether, if you catch my drift.

Not exactly.

manjosa

14-01-2008, 12:04 AM

I don't really have any goals as such for myself, other than to keep learning, growing and have sufficient food and shelter!

But I find myself somewhat lost as to what to do, other than spend my days more or less as a hermit (which allows me the freedom to be myself and explore the realm of the mind rather than shallow gossip) and sitting on the computer a lot, LOL. :D

I feel I need to find a way to be a bit more useful though, to get out and meet interesting people.

In a way, I look forward to the day when I can sod off and leave the 3rd dimension altogether, if you catch my drift.

Wow, I am in the exact same situation. I have saved some money so I don't have to go to work. Sometimes I keep telling myself this is my biggest challenge so far; I like challenges :)
But sometimes it also feels like a trap of: should of, could of, would of...
I live in a big city and I long for nature, which I also find scary, cause I am afraid of spiders and insects:eek:. Stupid I know, but that is one of my boxes (as David likes to call them).
It is a big challenge though, not to work, not to participate in the flow of most people around you and it is not easy at all. But apparently that is my choice for this moment. I am already 1,5 year in this situation and it hasn't brought me a lot of satisfaction either. So why am I here, in this lifetime anyway?

It is strange that work can occupy your mind so much that you can be somewhat satisfied in your living. Good program. But not good enough for me any more. But what then? I haven't found the answer yet.

lostinstrangeworld

14-01-2008, 12:19 AM

Wow, I am in the exact same situation. I have saved some money so I don't have to go to work. Sometimes I keep telling myself this is my biggest challenge so far; I like challenges :)
But sometimes it also feels like a trap of: should of, could of, would of...
I live in a big city and I long for nature, which I also find scary, cause I am afraid of spiders and insects:eek:. Stupid I know, but that is one of my boxes (as David likes to call them).
It is a big challenge though, not to work, not to participate in the flow of most people around you and it is not easy at all. But apparently that is my choice for this moment. I am already 1,5 year in this situation and it hasn't brought me a lot of satisfaction either. So why am I here, in this lifetime anyway?

It is strange that work can occupy your mind so much that you can be somewhat satisfied in your living. Good program. But not good enough for me any more. But what then? I haven't found the answer yet.

Maybe what we need to do is finding something else to do with our time which is more meaningful.

Because I feel, in a way, to be able to make more of a "difference" in the world you need to be "out there" interacting with others on one level or another. And "every little makes" a difference. Ever watch the movie "Pay It Forward"?

Now, the difficult question is what exactly to do?! :eek:

Me, I have been bringing up my sons full-time, though now their father and I have shared responsibility so I have more time on my hands and I really would like to find something worthwhile to do.

I don't want to just become another member of the BORG..........:mad:

somewarez

14-01-2008, 12:22 AM

join up with others in beautiful surroundings http://www.wwoof.org/wwoof_uk/join.html

Thanks for the link :)

Its the sort of thing I have been looking for but I had no idea that it was possible.

I am very tempted, I need some fresh air and time in the countryside :) Clear my mind and focus my thoughts.

Anyway thanks again :)

SW

lostinstrangeworld

14-01-2008, 12:26 AM

I live in the countryside- that's something I've got to be thankful for.

I can't imagine being anywhere not near trees.

I feel for those who have to live somewhere really disconnected from nature.

Nature is a part of our soul.

manjosa

14-01-2008, 12:52 AM

Maybe what we need to do is finding something else to do with our time which is more meaningful.

Because I feel, in a way, to be able to make more of a "difference" in the world you need to be "out there" interacting with others on one level or another. And "every little makes" a difference. Ever watch the movie "Pay It Forward"?

Now, the difficult question is what exactly to do?! :eek:

Me, I have been bringing up my sons full-time, though now their father and I have shared responsibility so I have more time on my hands and I really would like to find something worthwhile to do.

I don't want to just become another member of the BORG..........:mad:

No, no Borg, but sometimes I think we are already Borg. Our consensus reality for instance. The perfect slave thinks he is free....
And I think that there is no "out there" but I still can't get "in here" fully and
I am not convinced that that will be so exciting.

Yeah, full-time work and/or raising your children as full-time job and than what? Perhaps we did a good job according the systemprogram, and perhaps we lost ourselves a long the way (also according the systemprogram?).
Perhaps we are on the threshold of a new beginning, and we might have an advantage in not being occupied by daily business.

The more you read and think you know, the less "worthwhile / meaningful" things seem to be. The more you are closing yourself in (hermit what you mentioned). Getting out in nature can help, walk the dog, be in the moment but that gets boring too:o
I wished I had an answer for you, it would help me too:)

northernmonkey

14-01-2008, 12:57 AM

join up with others in beautiful surroundings http://www.wwoof.org/wwoof_uk/join.html

That seems a good alternative to working 9-5 in some shitty job and you are actually doing something positive and worthwhile.

lostinstrangeworld

14-01-2008, 12:59 AM

No, no Borg, but sometimes I think we are already Borg. Our consensus reality for instance. The perfect slave thinks he is free....
And I think that there is no "out there" but I still can't get "in here" fully and
I am not convinced that that will be so exciting.

Yeah, full-time work and/or raising your children as full-time job and than what? Perhaps we did a good job according the systemprogram, and perhaps we lost ourselves a long the way (also according the systemprogram?).
Perhaps we are on the threshold of a new beginning, and we might have an advantage in not being occupied by daily business.

The more you read and think you know, the less "worthwhile / meaningful" things seem to be. The more you are closing yourself in (hermit what you mentioned). Getting out in nature can help, walk the dog, be in the moment but that gets boring too:o
I wished I had an answer for you, it would help me too:)
I feel that finding something worthwhile to do is important. It helps get rid of depression.

lostinstrangeworld

14-01-2008, 01:01 AM

That seems a good alternative to working 9-5 in some shitty job and you are actually doing something positive and worthwhile.
But you'd just be sitting around and growing a few vegetables, etc.

What we really need to do to make a difference is communicate the message to the world- to the people who have not yet awakened.

northernmonkey

14-01-2008, 02:09 AM

But you'd just be sitting around and growing a few vegetables, etc.

What we really need to do to make a difference is communicate the message to the world- to the people who have not yet awakened.

But like the first post said if your main priority is enlightenment then being in the countryside away from daily life & all the NWO agendas and stuff is good. You get free accomidation and meals, and you could do this for years if you wanted to.

john white

14-01-2008, 02:35 AM

Is there any point in going to work?

Its just a choice

We are always and already soveriegn, we need not sell the time of our lives cheap in order to be

clipwip

14-01-2008, 06:22 AM

chris

14-01-2008, 06:40 AM

But like the first post said if your main priority is enlightenment then being in the countryside away from daily life & all the NWO agendas and stuff is good. You get free accomidation and meals, and you could do this for years if you wanted to.

It's not free accommodation; you’re actually paying quite a high price with it and at the end of the day you will have nothing to show for it. That woof sounds like glorified slave labour. What will happen when the shit hits the fan?

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If your not going to work then do something like what Craig Oxley (2tuff) is doing which is really fighting the NWO and you’ll have plenty of time to do all your spirituality on top of that.

Then your doing something forfilling and not leaving out your spirituality. I think it's a duty of people who are awakened as you put it to help others in that sense rather than muck about in a vegetable patch (I doubt you'd meet any decent people there).

djpad34

14-01-2008, 11:27 AM

i got out of the woking for corps in 1995 and never looked back i have had various degrees of sucsess from doing things for myself but for the last 5 years i have been buing and selling used computers /hifis mobile phones etc

if you want to work from home it may sound daft for thier is a good living from buying items from the local dump /tip etc i kid you not i must get at present from a couple of tip rats about 5-6 grands worth of stock a year from the local tip it sounds crazy but true it is unbelivable what is chucked out

ok saturday gone my local tiprat came to me with

1 fujitsui simens amd 64bit pc tower working order £30 sold on ebay same night for £129-
2 sky~+ 80gig system working but no remote £20 sold on ebay same night £61
3 sunday teatime 2 more sky+ boxes 80gb again paid 30 both on ebay for 50 quid each plus postage

every week i get items such as hifis laptops computers and much more i buy mine off 2 other people who visit tip like stated above as i have my shop to run but you can see thier is lots to be made another example

in the box mint marantz cd player plus 2x acram amps all boxed with leads one amp faulty sold the amps for 200 and the cd player for 120 for my £60 quid outlay

very easy to work from home for sure the list of items i have had is endless it makes my mind boggle every week whats gets thrown away

i have thought of writing a book on the subject lol its that mad i live in a small town too i dread to think what goes out onto the tips in largers areas

anyway yes i would say leave that 9-5 or 7-4-30 job and do somthing else very easy to make money from home

lostinstrangeworld

14-01-2008, 11:54 AM

But like the first post said if your main priority is enlightenment then being in the countryside away from daily life & all the NWO agendas and stuff is good. You get free accomidation and meals, and you could do this for years if you wanted to.
The truth is within us.

But yes, it is very important to re-connect with nature. I don't think I would have survived if I had to grow up in a busy city- either that or I wouldn't be the same person.

macmarphy

14-01-2008, 12:49 PM

I think the key is, if you are in a minority (which you are and all of us are), is to find like minded people. I wouldnt be surprised if, in particular this year, more people start waking up and wanting to break away from the system. so hopefully more and interesting opportunities will arise due to this.

dark86

14-01-2008, 01:32 PM

If your main priority is enlightenment, both personal and interpersonal?

Work and other commitments leave hardly any time left for that sort of thing.

So what's the answer?

Train to be a Reiki Master?
:D

What else?

Please share your ideas, sincerely if you please.

hehe, i stopped working from well paid job in london and have been travelling since, and i have done reiki 1 n 2 (reiki found me and me not it), and am soon in north india seeking a reiki master.....heheh..i so fit your description.

lostinstrangeworld

14-01-2008, 01:55 PM

;)

lostinstrangeworld

14-01-2008, 02:53 PM

I would love to meet some kindred spirits in the "physical" world.

lostinstrangeworld

14-01-2008, 03:21 PM

phreedom

15-01-2008, 12:29 AM

All in all, I would like to find a way to be free of the system, but still able to play a part in society enough to be able to communicate.

I often think it would be nice to go and live next door to Mr David Icke or anyone as awakened/ intelligent as him. If I could be near someone who I could have a decent conversation with like him, it would be ecstatic! :)
It is not difficult to live within the system and at the same time, function independent of it. In my life's experience, I am very much a "debt slave" as I am hundreds of thousands of dollars in the hole.

The key is not to let it get you down. Do not allow yourself to be controlled to the point where all you think about is paying off debt and in turn, becomming the mindless debt slave they want you to become.

I plan on paying off my debt, which has given me a life and the opportunity to meet and influence the lives of about 20 new people EVERY DAY for the past few years, at this point. And that number is going to grow, daily, for the remainder of my life! But at the same time, I will receive money and funnell it back at the system that gave me my "ticket."

But the ticket is just that. It's a symbol that I entered the system and played their game. But that doesn't mean I was ever their slave, or was ever their pawn. I hopped on board to get ahead in the system, for security within the system, but also the opportunity to meet others who are in it and are very much subject to it, and be in position to make their lives a little better, at least in some way or another.

They may "own" a part of my past, but they can't take away what I know or have learned or what light I have passed on to those who saw me because of who and where I am. They can't take the things that matter most in life away from me, which, undoubtedly, are not money, which is the reason the system exists to begin with.

At any rate, I just want to say that you can take 2 approaches. You can distance yourself from the system, but that will severly hamper the amount of influence you can have on so many people and their lives, but at the same time, remain alive and untainted, so to speak. Or you could approach it the way I did, enter in, go through the meat grinder, but keep yourself and your mind clear and your intentions pure, and you'll come out fine, unscathed and even more enlightened for seeing the innerds of the process.

synak

15-01-2008, 06:51 PM

bump

This thread is of very insightful discussion.

guyblokeman

15-01-2008, 07:49 PM

It's not free accommodation; you’re actually paying quite a high price with it and at the end of the day you will have nothing to show for it. That woof sounds like glorified slave labour. What will happen when the shit hits the fan?

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Your wrong....

From their main page...

"In return for your help on organic farm, gardens and smallholdings you receive meals, accommodation and the opportunity to learn. Wwoof volunteers do not pay to stay with hosts and Wwoof hosts do not pay volunteers for their help"

I am also very tempted by this, nice link!

skyver

15-01-2008, 08:13 PM

lostinstrangeworld, Your not alone there! There must be a load of people reading this going " I'm not the only one.." lol! When I was younger (20's) me a a few friends would get jobs t the same place & all it would take would be for one of us to start moaning about the crappy wages etc & by friday (once we got our crappy wages) we would walk out & not give a damn. Now i'm older I'm supposed to more responsible, which I am too a certain extent as I have a son now. But I know where you coming from. The reason for my behaviour was I just didn't feel any satisfaction from the job(s). But don't let it get you down, easier said than done but try. :D

lostinstrangeworld

15-01-2008, 09:26 PM

Another big problem I have is not being able to drive. I'm probably too "left-brained" to be any good at it. I suppose I could scrape some money by for lessons if I put my mind to it, but then when I think about all the future changes and possible fuel crisis, etc, I do wonder if it would be worth the while. Hmmm.....:rolleyes:

emanuel

16-01-2008, 01:01 AM

Why do people feel the need to 'have use' or 'make a difference' in the world?

Is it because people ask the question "what is the meaning of life?". Consider there may be no 'meaning'.

So many people have ideas of communicating the message to the masses. If you simply sit with one person and pass them your knowledge (not by force, by the way ;)) and open their eyes to what is really going on in the world, and they have a moment of awakening as a result of the informantion you give, then you have made a MASSIVE difference without even realising it. You will have made more of a difference than you are expected to.

For ever one of us that does this for one person ON THE PLANET, we double our numbers automatically. Enter 'the snowball' effect.

One person alone is more likely to absorb your info and 'wake up', or give them the courage to roll with (accept) 'that feeling' they have had all their lives, than a room full of people because it is more personal and there is noone else there to mock the 'awakening'. In a full room of 'sleeping' people one will take the piss and because of this the others would be reluctant to listen and join them in the mocking , for the fear of being ridiculed themselves is far too great for 'the sleeping'.

I think that if there ever was a point of going to work it is because there are many 'sleepy' people you have the opportunity to 'awaken', if making a difference is your thing.

lostinstrangeworld

16-01-2008, 01:10 AM

newfiesheep666

16-01-2008, 02:59 AM

cl2008

16-01-2008, 03:05 AM

I go to work cuz I need to eat and pay my bills.

lostinstrangeworld

16-01-2008, 12:55 PM

If you go for a walk down the street and you haven't worked for awhile I think you will observe something very interesting.Most other people walk much faster than you do.I also find this true when I drive,most people are caught in the rat race.Is time slowin' down or speedin' up 4 us?:eek:

I think time speeds up for people who don't have to do something which suppresses the soul......Work doesn't always suppress the soul, however, in cases where it does and one is always looking at the clock, it feels as if one is stuck in a time warp! :eek:

All in all, if one is doing something he/ she enjoys, time will sort of float by gracefully, not heavily......whereas if one is doing something they really don't enjoy then time will seem thick and heavy.

Sometimes we have to give of ourselves that way out of necessity though, for others who are dependent or basically in the name of love, etc. That is far more rewarding than service-to-self; helping others is what "Oneness" would do.

I do feel in my heart that things won't always be as difficult as they are know. ;)

I think we're heading for a cosmic "stargate" in the very near future, opening up a whole new kind of dimension for us all. :D

Mo0n5tar

16-01-2008, 01:26 PM

Yes work is something i avoided for years due to my studies and rebellious nature, the title of your thread used to be what i used to think every morning now i am working for something worthwhile it really seems to be alot easier.

I need money to get the fuck out of UK, wanna go and see all the places i have researched, like Peru, Cambodia, Egypt etc maybe stay in India or Tibet for a while you know, while the world is still reasonably safe.

:)

phreedom

16-01-2008, 01:37 PM

I had an interesting conversation this past weekend with someone whom has a great deal of my respect.

He said, "If you do something you love, you'll never work a day in our life."

I find this to be quite true. I am in my 20 somethingith year of school. I have always loved learning. Intelligent people often ask me how I can devote so much time and energy to becomming a doctor to which I retort that it's not time and energy, it's just me. It's what I do. I don't put effort into it and I don't try. It just flows out of my finger tips and mouth. My eyes and ears absorb the necessary knowledge like a dry sponge does a puddle. It's automatic, but it's very much a chosen process. Some people like to sit down, watch Oprah and eat bon bons... I like to learn about a lot of things, absorb a story and volley back advice, advice based on my knowledge, all day.

Originally Posted by emanuel
Why do people feel the need to 'have use' or 'make a difference' in the world?

Is it because people ask the question "what is the meaning of life?". Consider there may be no 'meaning'.

I have also talked about these concepts to some length on a number of occasions. The reason I want to meet people and have "influence" in their life is quite simple.

If someone comes to me, they obviously are unsure about something. You will be surprised how many people walk into a doctor's office with NOTHING wrong with them and just need the words from a figurehead that they are okay. Simply put, they just need reassurance. And people get paid for giving it! Did I make a difference by saying, "That spot on your arm is not cancer. You can go home and not worry about it, Mrs. Smith!" Not really. All I did was look at a spot, access my memory for information I acquired earlier in life, and volleyed it back to her saying not to worry. She'll then go home without an anxiety that had been troubling her for quite some time. But, Alas, I made a difference in someone's life, and it was completely mental.

I feel good when I do that for people. I also feel good when someone comes into the office with diabetic neuropathy in their feet, meaning they can't feel anything. I look at their feet and see a sore that is infected and well on its way to turning gangrenous. Had they not come to the office, it undoubtedly would have progressed without their knowledge and the infection could very well have become lethal. I enjoy being their as a first line defense against people's ills. Am I making a difference? Yes and No. It depends on how you look at it.

Is it right to interfere and administer antibiotics and wound care? Is it wrong not to? If it were meant to be wouldn't it resolve spontaneously irregardless of what I do? Again, it depends on how you look at it.

Be the change you wish to see? Or see the change that's already there?

I can appreciate a world of caring. I cannot appreciate a world of sideliners or benchwarmers. If you're at the game, you do nothing sitting the bench. You could be an expert of the game, with unparallelled knowledge and skill, but if you're sitting on the bench, you don't make a difference in the outcome. Is this right or wrong? It depends on how you look at the game to begin with.

If you look at life as a prison, it will be such. If you look at it as an opportunity, it will be that too. I look at my life as something for which I Have no control. I submit myself to the world around me and let nature take its course. I ended up here on this message board talking about this. I will be bedside in a hospital in 15 minutes also. Is this right or wrong? It doesn't matter. It's just what I do.

You can call me a repeater, but I don't believe anything anyone tells me until I've seen someone lose a foot or die from a systemic infection originating from an ulcer that progressed unbeknownst to a patient because they couldn't feel it. When someone explains a disease process to me, it doesn't make sense until I see it in real life. Repeater? Bah, news reporters are repeaters. Actors are repeaters. Doctors who love what they do and are CONSCIOUS of themselves and what goes on around them, are not repeaters.

Is there a meaning to life?

It's like they say on TV all the time and you've probably said it before yourself...

"All my life has led up to this very moment"

But that's all your life really is. This moment. All your memories and knowledge of the past that strengthen your own interpretation of any given moment are just icing on the cake.

You're no different. But every time you stop, look at yourself where you are right now, Realize that everything in ALL TIME and UNIVERSAL HISTORY has led to your consciousness experiencing this moment, right here, right now. And if you read this whole thing, that is the result of the universal unfoldings that have led to your consciousness realizing these words. Good or bad? I don't know. Is there a meaning? Not sure. But if it happened, there has to be a reason... scientific or spiritual? It matters not for they're the same, an ultimate result of the unfoldings of the universe. It doesn't even need a reason or a meaning.

newfiesheep666

16-01-2008, 02:39 PM

I've found that I love not workin'.How can anybody acheive this state of bliss?Well,if I told everyone and not very many people went to work wouldn't the system crash and how would society deal with only a couple of willin' souls?Invent some kinda machine that does the work of 100's or 1000's or millions of people,that's impossible isn't it?There's no way humans could just sit around and push pens or keyboards all day or shoot their mouth into some kinda crazy invention that gets a few other people to do all the work.I must be nuts:rolleyes:.It must have been a crazy dream or as some would say an illusion.I wonder why the shrinks are tryin' ta convince people that 20% of us are...and 20% of the population are elderly and don't work and 30% of the population are youth who go to "school" and therefore do not have a "job".So the people that are "workin" must have a very intensive physcial workload,it must be hard work to be a government employee,politician,doctor,lawyer,judge,teacher,su bway driver with all that traffic,policeman patrolin' the streets in his vehicle rightin' reports.These people must be in excellent physcial shape as the strain of the muscles they're usin' at their jobs would give em' a great physicke wouldn't ya think.I bet you could pick these people out of a lineup any day.

whitewolf

16-01-2008, 02:41 PM

What a great thread, I've just been having this conversation with three different people today. It seems many of us around the world are want to get out of the system. At the moment it seems you have to get into it to get out of it. You have make a truckload of money to get out and live a freer life.
See, what I want to do is buy a piece of land build a straw bale or cob house, get off the grid, have alternative energy, grow veggies, paint, make music and support the robots rebellion. As they say 'be the change you wish to see in the world.'
I'd love this to be part of a community, alone we won't survive. Being with like-minded people living their truth could be a bright beacon to the rest of humanity. There are already many communities around the world doing this.

I jumped off the cliff in 2002, sold the house, furniture, took the kids out of the institution for social control (school) etc and went live on a boat. That's how I eneded up here. Whilst living on a boat I've met a few who live on the fringe of society, it's takes a different value system, letting go of much of that we are conditioned to value.
The problem is always; MONEY, the bastards have us buy the short and curleys. Right now I'm self employed, at least I have that freedom. But, fuck it's stressful paying all the bills, and BAM I realise I when I jumped off the cliff I landed in more or less the same place, just more sunny:) with a bit more more freedom.
SO, a good question Lost, I'm looking for the way out too. When I find it I'll let you know.

Where's that confounded cliff...

Freedom for all
Whitewolf

mr_pixie

16-01-2008, 02:48 PM

Ask yourself why do we need to work? Answer to earn money.

So ask why do we need money? Truth is we dont need money.

We just think we do. When we dont.

Money is not the rute of all evil, but it is the rute of all control

whitewolf

16-01-2008, 03:16 PM

I agree with you 100% Mr Pixie. The belief that we need money to survive is what keeps us in the box. So it all boils down to fear, the fear of survival, real root chakra stuff.
Do you have an alternative? what do you do about money, how do you get food, have shelter, clothes, warmth, where do you get the cash from for this basic stuff? please not the social security cop-out though. I've tried that, it was a crap place to be. More like a soup kitchen.
This is not a challenge, I need some inspiration, some avenues to explore.
freedom
whitewolf

phreedom

16-01-2008, 11:58 PM

This is all good.

Undoubtedly, money is NOT a necessity for survival. Look at the ant scurrying across the sidewalk outside your front door. He does not need money nor does he think about it.

It is not difficult to live life free from money.

The question is, do you really want to? If so, then go ahead...