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vienna
11-01-2008, 10:03 AM
you are not a person

you are a human being who has a person

a person is a legal entity they use to make you act and obey their statutes which are not enforcable if you declare your freeman-of-tht-land-status under common law

statutes apply to persons not to you

(A ‘statute’ is defined as ‘a legislated rule of society given the force of law.’)

things you think of as laws are in fact statutes and have no power over you unless you give them power over you by;

1.your ignorance
or
2. their deception

their deception only works because of your ignorance

educate yourself with this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6729904244308031068&q=magnificent+deception&total=29&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

redhead
11-01-2008, 11:14 AM
Good Post Vienna,

Heres some more info on the straw man


The Untold History of "Straw Man" in British Common Law

Once one understands the true legal history of the "STRAW MAN," it is possible to tackle him head on.

UK's Inland Revenue Code

As you will discover, the Inland Revenue tax file number is a "public" number belonging to a "public persona," a "person," a legal entity different from yourself and artificial as well; i.e. existing in contemplation of or by force of law alone.

This is your alter ego, all-capital letters-written-name straw man. "STRAW MAN" is a legal term for a "front man," or nominal party to a transaction, existing in name only, which allows the owner to accomplish some purpose not otherwise permitted.

Owner, Slave and Master

A straw man serves its owner/master with slavish devotion, but the vast majority of you do not even know that you have one. If you lack this key perception, you may assume you are his owner, but you will never be the master!

[Herein lies the CONCEPT that will free you of worry and personal liability in operating virtual corporations in Cyberspace. OWNERSHIP is passé in the new age of digital laissez-faire capitalism. USE is the new' key perception' - as use pre-empts ownership. - RRR]

He has been running around obligating you and entering into all kinds of unconscionable contracts and causing you much grief, heartache, and economic misery. It is time you get to know this fellow and set things straight.

Most people understand that the law is very precise, with legalized deadly violence attached to the words appearing in the text of the codes that are enforced by both courts and police.

English and the Language of Law

The English language and its accepted rules of grammar are likewise precise, however, and make no accommodation for proper nouns to be written in all-capital letters. The all-capital letters-written name which appears on your IRD [Inland Revenue Department] Statements, driver's license, passport, bank statement, credit cards, etc., and which is rigidly enforced by the legal system, is not there by mistake - as the law is very precise.

But it is not your "True Name," which appears with only initial letters capitalised. The all-caps version is the name of your mirror image straw man and is written in another language: "Legalese." The primary pitfall is that an all-capital letters name sounds exactly like a true name when spoken). This phenomenon has no particular significance in our society - except in a courtroom, and a courtroom can be a dangerous place.

Simple observation tells us that a primary function of today's private, foreign-owned and operated court system is the transfer of personal wealth and freedom over to the banks and government.
The judge is calling out a name in one language, "Legalese," (he is reading from the legal documents in front of him), and you are innocently listening and answering in another, "English."

This otherwise harmless overlap of "language" is then immediately applied to your profound detriment. Such deception is now indispensable in maintaining the current level of commercial success of the courts (e.g. visit any "traffic court" for an hour and keep a tally of the proceeds). An all-capital letters-written name is an artificial construction and designates an artificial person existing only by force of or in contemplation of law.

The problem enters in when a man or woman mistakenly believes that such a corruption of their true name refers to them - a calamitous case of mistaken identity. However, all law-to be "law" - must offer remedy and recourse.

The Code is the Law

The private forum of the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) offers such a remedy. This is not intended to be a cure-all for legal woes and does not pretend to be anything other than a work-in-progress for legal self-discovery.

For thousands of years the Powers That Be have been steadfastly constructing the System by which world law and commerce operate. They have developed their system utilising timeless principles of human interaction which, over the millennia, have been discovered and codified. These fundamental, common-sense principles underlie every form of law extant on the planet.

Every legal issue and dispute deals with one or more of these principles. Since all human interchange is commerce, in order to rule people it is necessary only to govern the commerce by which they interact and subsist.

Those operating the system have achieved their pre-eminence by knowing the foundational principles and encrypting them into "codes" for their own benefit, while confusing the masses and keeping them ignorant of such real law and how to employ it correctly. The pinnacle of their efforts to date is the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code). Commerce now functions under, and is securely entrenched in, the UCC.

The important points to remember are that while the UCC was formulated for purposes of exploitation and subjugation, it is a particular codification of the universal underlying laws of commerce, and, perhaps most importantly, can be employed for our benefit now that the code has been "cracked."

Protocols within the Code
The foundational maxims of the underlying commercial law, from which all law and commerce in the world today derive, are:

1.A workman is worthy of his hire.
2.All are equal under the law (moral and natural law).
3.In commerce truth is sovereign.
4.Truth is expressed in the form of an affidavit.
5.An unrebutted claim, charge, or affidavit stands as the truth in commerce.
6.An unrebutted affidavit becomes the judgement in commerce.
7.All matters must be expressed to be resolved.
8.He who leaves the field of battle first loses by default.
9.Sacrifice is the measure of credibility (one who has not been damaged by, given to, lost on account of, or put at risk by another has no basis to make claims or charges against him/her).
10.A lien or claim can be satisfied only through rebuttal by counter affidavit point-for-point, resolution by jury, or payment.

The reason, this scenario prevails is because the world has been set up to run precisely this way. We (the slaves) were just not supposed to figure it out.

Code is Set in Stone

Before the bankruptcy of the established nation states, [invocation of a debt-based system of finance], men and women sovereigns were personally accountable for their actions in courts that were set up to accommodate disputes among sovereigns (such as the original common law in England before 1066).

Now, the people's straw men, which are legally owned property of the system, are the "accountable parties" as adjudicated and enforced by the system. Such formerly sovereign men and women are now personally accountable because they are inextricably joined with their straw men which is owned via implied contract by a handful of arch-charlatans.

Courts today are set up to deal only with straw men. We, their unfortunate counterparts, are merely "along for the ride." A sovereign (real being) has no place in a contemporary court (commercial, dealing in artificial persons), and cannot be legally accommodated.

Only if the current debt-based system of finance and government is rectified will we ever get back to a sane and just basis for resolution of disputes and a sound civilisation.

Your Moral Code is Primary

As a great Indian sage stated the matter: "Seek the highest first." This means, inter alia, to maintain your integrity and ethical behavior. In practice this requires that you keep your word, honour your contracts, and not depart from your principles.

A fundamental flaw in Man's thinking is the notion that he can cheat moral or natural law (usually by trying to cheat others) and get away with it. Every such attempt generate inexorable cause/effect consequences, all man's philosophies, systems, and cleverness to the contrary notwithstanding.

The entirety of our predicament is due to failure to live in harmony and accord with moral and natural law. The current system is the cause/effect result of our own folly. All governments are expressions of, and exist by virtue of, the people's irresponsibility, ignorance, laziness, larceny, and surrender of personal power, freedom, and autonomy in exchange for "being taken care of."

In other words, every government exists due to the express will, as well as implied default of, the people (combined with the willingness of the ruthless to accept and manage the surrender of the people's power to the fictitious, artificially created, "government"). As Joseph de Maistre noted: "Every country gets the government it deserves."

What Can People Do?

To start with you must declare that you and your strawman are not one and the same.
This is done via a very carefully worded affidavit, a "Statutory Declaration of True Name". This affidavit states exactly what your correct name is and that you are not to be confused with or represent in any way any of the straw man versions of your name.

Next you will actually create an entity that takes on the names of your strawman. That is to say you will literally bring your straw man to life.

Your strawman will be an entity officially created under UK law having it's own legal status. The benefit is that you will not have to try and convince anyone that you are not one and the same as your strawman. It will be self-evident.

The strawman will have it's own director and owner. The director and owner will represent the entity in all matters. The place for service and official address will be the same as the man or woman the entity is created to protect.

For example Mr John Frank Doe and Mrs Jane Mary Doe of 22 New Street, Newmarket wish to protect themselves. This is what they do:

Mrs Jane Mary Doe forms a company called JOHN FRANK DOE LIMITED to protect her husband.

She then registers several names as "doing business as" these are the entities' registered trademark - names, registered at the Companies Office.

She registers: JOHN F. DOE, JOHN FRANK DOE, J. F. DOE, JOHN DOE, John Frank DOE, John F. Doe, J. F. Doe, John Doe, DOE John Frank.

Mrs Doe registers 22 New Street, Newmarket as the place for service etc..

The newly formed entity will conduct no business at all! It will have no NI [Inland Revenue Department] number and no bank account. It will essentially be a shelf company that exists in name only to prove legally that the entity exists and that John Frank Doe is not that entity.

Mr Doe will do the same for Mrs Doe.

Key Legal Perception
You do not want to own or direct a company that looks like your own name as that would serve to defeat the purpose. The reason the entity is formed is so that you are able to simply distinguish between yourself, the living man or woman, and the entity created by government to control you.

After reading this material, understanding its implications and applying it correctly you will be in a commanding position against prosecution in admiralty court.

As previously stated the courts can now only deal with the entities that governments create. The entity that sounds like your name does no business thus having a rock solid defence in any situation.


I wonder how long it takes them to bury this topic, as it seems the norm now on this forum for good info being buried under 100's of meaninless threads.

PEACE

RED

vienna
11-01-2008, 11:33 AM
great cheers Red could you give me the source for that?

- I'm seriously thinking of takling this to a solicitor - I tried this a while ago after discussing my primary query I happened to mention the straw man issue afterwards and they didn't know what I was talking about so I gave up

which either means they sincerely didn't have a clue or wher unwilling to approach the subject

redhead
11-01-2008, 12:11 PM
No problem man, heres a link to the article i copied

http://www.6towns.com/driving/Strawmanarticle.html

And heres a link to a google search for the form Statutory Declaration of True Name Straw Man
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Statutory+Declaration+of+True+Name+straw+man&meta=

rossus
11-01-2008, 12:17 PM
i love baby steps http://www.bonjovi.de/forum/images/smilies/baby_023.gif

redhead
11-01-2008, 12:19 PM
DROIT-DROIT. (drwah-drwah), n. [Law French “double right”] Hist. The unification of the right of possession with the right of property. — Also termed jus duplicatum; dreit dreit. Black’s 7th. See Note. Compare absolute rights.

Note: As with the cestui que trust this term also comes to us from Norman French attorneys. You have had the “right of possession” of your juristic, straw-man name your entire life, but you have not had the right of property over the name because legal title was held elsewhere. “Acceptance For Value” unites right of possession with right of property of your straw man. He can then go to work for you, rather than Big Brother.

http://www.commonlawvenue.com/Glossary/GlossaryA-D.htm

vienna
11-01-2008, 12:30 PM
Red, 2 questions

have you took steps to file the affidavit?

and how do you think the new ID cards affect this issue?

redhead
11-01-2008, 01:01 PM
I have not filed for the affidavit as all i have is a bank account and passport, i dont work so i dont pay tax, dont drive so have no licence, have no credit, dont own a house. So im sort of semi-out of the system, but this is all good information, i have studied the english bill of rights and have used that in court to my advantage regarding council tax, they use our ignorance against us, the more informed you are the better prepared you are, like someone once said if you want a battle of wits then bring some weapons.

As far as the id card issue goes i can see nothing wrong legaly with setting up your own straw man and applying for an id card under that psedounom or if you diss-associate with your straw man legally following the steps in my post above then you can legally refuse to recognise yourself as the person with whom there trying to force the id card on, as you are no longer the wholly owned corporate entity that you once were and have the document to prove it.

The only thing i can see is that when they sign the last EU treaty, the English bill of rights is no more and we are under the governance of the United Masons and there wholly curropt laws.

Hope this helps

PEACE

RED

vienna
11-01-2008, 01:06 PM
I have not filed for the affidavit as all i have is a bank account and passport, i dont work so i dont pay tax, dont drive so have no licence, have no credit, dont own a house. So im sort of semi-out of the system, but this is all good information, i have studied the english bill of rights and have used that in court to my advantage regarding council tax, they use our ignorance against us, the more informed you are the better prepared you are, like someone once said if you want a battle of wits then bring some weapons.

As far as the id card issue goes i can see nothing wrong legaly with setting up your own straw man and applying for an id card under that psedounom or if you diss-associate with your straw man legally following the steps in my post above then you can legally refuse to recognise yourself as the person with whom there trying to force the id card on, as you are no longer the wholly owned corporate entity that you once were and have the document to prove it.

The only thing i can see is that when they sign the last EU treaty, the English bill of rights is no more and we are under the governance of the United Masons and there wholly curropt laws.

Hope this helps

PEACE

RED

then we have to file this affidavit before the treaty is signed so that only our straw man is taken into the new laws, leaving us, the natural flesh and blood human being, untouched ?

very interested in your council tax victory as i want to test this stuff out in a court - but i need to swot up first

redhead
11-01-2008, 01:15 PM
Heres some definitions i thought i would throw in

"Person". 1. a human being. 2. An entity (such as a corporation) that is recognized by law as having the rights and duties of a human being."

The straw man may also be said to be an "artificial person" which is also defined in the legal dictionary. "An entity, such as a corporation, created by law and given certain legal rights and duties of a human being; a being, real or imaginary, who for the purpose of legal reasoning is treated more or less as an human being. - Also termed fictitious person; juristic person; legal person; moral person." [Blacks Law Dictionary, 7th Edition]

[B]So A straw man may also be thought of as a "legal fiction."


"Legal fiction. Assumption of fact made by court as basis for deciding a legal question. A situation contrived by the law to permit a court to dispose of a matter ."

As we explore further, we must distinguish between the straw man (an it or person), and the real,flesh and blood being (human being) which we will call a "man." "Man" has a legal definition.

[B]"A human being. A person of the male sex. A male of the human species above the age of puberty. In the most extended sense the term includes not only the adult male sex of the human species, but women and children. . In feudal law, a vassal; a tenant or feudatory."

So we conclude that "man" is a term of nature and a "person" as a term of civil law.

Lets look at Civil Law

[B]"Civil law . a rule of civil conduct prescribed by the supreme power of a state . the civil or municipal law of the Roman empire."

So kings, emperors or legislative bodies acting in sovereign capacity are the "creators" of civil law. When our government acts as a sovereign, it is [B]acting outside it's constitutional authority.

So we see that a man and a person are very different terms identifying very different things. If you study Roman civil law, you will see that it originates and uses fictions of law - that is, concepts that are contrary to the natural order of things, and based upon presumptions that are untrue. You will realize that this person recognized in the civil law is a fictional entity. You will come to see the vast difference between man and person. So the straw man is a person, a fictional entity, a public name that is recognized in a civil society.

vienna
11-01-2008, 02:38 PM
Red how did you use the bill of rights to your advantage in court concerning council tax? - I'm sure others would like to use the same method including me - we should be shouting this stuff from the roof tops

redhead
11-01-2008, 02:45 PM
I just followed this brave lady's example and am currently in the process of declaring myself bankrupt, as i dont own anything they cant take anything.

http://www.namastepublishing.co.uk/Elizabeth.htm

Follow on Link

http://www.namastepublishing.co.uk/Elizabeth%20Beckett%20-%20News%20Black%20Out.htm

cruise4
12-01-2008, 12:08 AM
Great post Red. This is coming to head with me too re. Council Tax. Although after sending them back their bills with value = and stuff on it, I haven't heard from them since. I expect I will though. I was planning to be dragged into court and challenge them on contract law.

Do you know anything about the value of the corporate bond and who can access it etc.?

Spoke too soon. Just grabbed my post, I'd forgotten about, and the bailiffs are being sent in.

chappel
12-01-2008, 01:16 AM
Awesome, thanks for the video. I saw the first video of this guy. Thankfully I live in Canada and hopefully Ill be able to understand this better and maybe use this knowledge for my benefit.

boots
12-01-2008, 01:44 AM
This information is vital and I thank you both for posting this, keep it coming please.
This is the only way to beat them ,to play them at there own game.

cruise4
12-01-2008, 05:11 AM
Elizabeth has further suggested the following: Readers should consider raising the following points as set out below, with their local council. Bear in mind that it is probable that Common Purpose is operating in you area. Councils cannot take taxes for an organisation that cannot achieve an audit. It is illegal under the Local Government Act 1972, which is still used for auditing local government accounts. All those who pay Council Tax should write to their local council and quote section 239 of the 1972 ACT.

1). You as the Council have the right to oppose or depose acts in Parliament.
Under your oaths of allegiance, the laws in the Bill of Rights of 1689 make clear this country CANNOT be ruled by ANY foreign power: “No foreign Prince, person, Prelate, State, or Potentate, hath or ought to have any Jurisdiction, Power, Superioity, Pre eminence, or Authority Ecclesiastical or Spiritual within this Realm.”
They also added two codicils at the end of the Bill of Rights “Any amendments to the bill after the 23 October 1689 shall be void and not lawful, and this bill is for all time”.

2). This law and its oath are not subject to Parliament because they were given to Parliament by the People whose WILL is supreme over Parliament.
This means Parliament may not allow any part of the aforementioned oath to be breached side-stepped or ignored. This Bill of Rights precludes and effectively forbids Parliament from passing any bill like the 1972 EEC Act, the Treaty of Rome or any other European legislation which gives them any say at all in the governance of England. It also precludes Parliament from passing any laws contrary to the spirit of this Bill of Rights.

Chief Justice Beresford said; “You must look on the spirit of the law not just how it is written.”
The Scots have their own version of this law. Indeed the people and Parliament were told the 1972 EEC Act was a purely trading agreement with no Constitutional impact at all!

3). Since you use the Local Government Act for your audit, I wish to draw your attention to another services’ misdemeanour and that is you have been paying my council tax in to an unaudited administration (this is the 13th year).

4). If I were to pay my Council Tax I would be complicit in this illegality. Even more seriously, I would be allowing without complaint, the present Government’s intention to herd this country over to this illegal administration.

5). Under the powers given to you under section 239 you have the power to refuse to agree this and would be acting illegally if you did not.

6). This applies to any council, PRESS them to ACT under these laws.
Do you want to be like the judge acting illegally under European law? Or do you want to do something about it? We must never forget, our Constitution was made by our ancestors (often with their lives) not by Parliament.

Elizabeth gave the following information for our American readers: As far as the American Constitution is concerned, Jefferson and co made a Masonic Constitution, but they did not wipe out the existing British Constitution on which the colonies had lived for two hundred years. This is the basis of your law and customs .

The English Constitution includes:

1). Magna Carta, (which the Supreme court used for the release of the people in Guantanamo Bay

2). The Petion of Right 1627

3). The Bill of Rights of 1689

4). The 1700 Act of Settlement

These legal statutes were made by the people from whom the colonies are decended, only rubber stamped by British Parliment, (governing the colonies at the time) until independence. It is the bases of your Law and your Constitution. The United States Constitution is subject to the British Constitution.
The only elements of the US Constitution that differer fron the British Constitution, is the Royal prerogative and Christianity. The prerogative can exceptionally be used by the President, but is not part of the law as it is with us.
However, the people of the USA cannot reley on the ‘prerorgative’, all they can do is find the relevent phrases that can fight orders.
These can found in the Bill of Rights 1689 and chapter 29 of Magna Carta. Good luck

“Please remember that to possess INFORMATION,
you must sift through mountains of disinformation (lies),
misinformation (mistakes),
and nonninformation (distractions).
But first, you have to want to.”

~ Harold Thomas (late)
A Search for the Truth is a Dangerous Thing

For readers to understand. KNOW THIS.
The 'prerogative power' is given to the monarch by the PEOPLE, under the Bill of Rights of 1689 and Magana Carta. The monarch agrees protect our laws and customs under the Coronation Oath and the Constitution. Failure do so is TREASON against the people! We are protected from GESTAPO type (executive) law by the 'prerogative'. This is what the New World order is trying to take away from us. This is our ancient law. Therefore, why has the monarch signed FIVE illegal treaties taking us into a crimalised organisation -the EU which is completely against our Constitution??

STOP PRESS
Elizabeth has now applied for an interlocutory injunction to stop Brown and his associates taking us, the People of the UK further into an illegal administrative situation. (Anyone can and shoud do this). It is illegal for a government to be financially involved with an organisation that cannot even audit its own accounts. The EU has not audited its accounts for the past 13 years.
Elizabeth, has informed us that recently, a local council representative had spoken to her by phone, they said they will block her High Court Appeal on the grounds it applies to the whole of England.


OPEN LETTER TO PRIME MINISTER BROWN

Dear Mr Brown

It appears that you are acting under the Constitutional Reform Act of 2005, imagining that you, as a Prime Minister, hold the 'prerogative power.'

Are you sir, aware of the meaning of the 'PREROGATIVE POWER'?
Have you taken constitutional legal advice on this very serious action of entry into the EU?

If so from whom have you sought such advice?

Are you aware that this is a serious crime against the People of Britain? It is TREASON.


Yours Sincerely

Mrs Elizabeth Beckett

THE ABOVE QUESTIONS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO ASK MR BROWN BECAUSE - UPON TAKING OFFICE HE MADE A OATH OF ALLIGENCE WHICH INCORPORATES OUR CONSTITUTIONAL LAW AND FAILURE TO ABIDE BY THE SAID OATH OF ALLIGENCE IS ALSO TREASON.

We ask readers to please to copy the above letter and replace Elizabeth's name with thier own name and send to number 10 Downing Street and see what response they get. All letters received from number 10 Downing Street to the above letter, if any, will be placed on this website. Please send to: Namaste Publishing, PO Box 127, Shrewsbuy SY3 7WS

cruise4
12-01-2008, 05:16 AM
Useful site for US citizens about all this:

http://www.whatyoudontknow.com/

Extract:

We also used to have real titles to property rather than fake titles like deeds (color of title). If you really own your land and have an allodial title to it, you are not subject to building codes or property taxes. If you only have a deed, the STATE really owns your land, and it you don't pay the rent (property taxes), they will take it away from you. You can be assured that Mr. Rockefeller has real title to his property.

Extract:

There are two of so many things these days - one that is real and one that is fake.

There are two "states" of whatever state you live in. There is one that has hills and valleys and rocks and trees and dogs and cats and people in it. There is another one that is a government entity, a corporate fiction. When you fill out a government form that asks you "Are you a resident of the State of Connecticut?", you may presume you know what is meant by the word "resident" and the phrase "State of Connecticut", but you should be sure before you sign that thing under penalty of perjury.

In the same way, there are in a way two of you. The real you was created by your mother and father and God, and if somebody pinches, you will feel it. There is another "you", believe it or not, that was created by the STATE and is a corporate fiction.

redhead
12-01-2008, 09:43 AM
Cruise4 said Do you know anything about the value of the corporate bond and who can access it etc.?


I dont know much about corporate bonds only that they are issued by companies as a way of raising money to invest in their business. They have nominal value (usually £100), which is the amount that will be returned to the investor on a stated future date (the redemption date). They also pay a stated interest rate each year - usually fixed.

With regards to the bailiff situation Crusie mate, then have a look at this from the Bill of Rights, 1689

In both Common Law and in Statute Law, it is provided that -

“No Freeman shall be taken or imprisoned, or be disseised of his Freehold, or Liberties, or free Customs, or be outlawed, or exiled, or any other wise destroyed; nor will we not pass upon him, nor (condemn him) (defined by the Statute as meaning ‘deal with him’), (1) but by lawful judgment of his Peers, or by the Law of the Land. We will sell to no man; we will not deny or defer to any man either Justice or Right.”

Item (2) “That all Grants and Promises of Fines and Forfeitures of particular persons before Conviction are illegall and void.” Bill of Rights 1689 Section 2 clause 12

Simply put; if you are given a fine without being put in a court of law first, the fine is invalid. This applies to any fine given to you including speeding fines, congestion charge, and a fine given to you by a policeman, any fine you receive. Item (2)

When you go to the court for none payment of the fine, or you fill in the slip to have the matter dealt with in a court of law, you must demand to be tried by a jury, (trial by the judgment of my peers or by the law of the land) the magistrate will say “I cannot offer you that option “. You reply “I want a jury and that is not your option, it belongs to me the defendant”. They will say “we are bound by statutes” which in reply you say “I am glad you are bound statutes and I am glad you have said that for it is statute that gave you your existence as a magistrate” and further more “you are bound by the first of these statutes The Bill of Rights 1689, which clearly states; item (1)

The magistrate will probably say “I still cannot give you that option” so you reply “The Bill of Rights 1689 requires you, as an officer of the crown, to serve the crown in accordance to the provisions of the Act” and furthermore “you must serve your majesty in accordance to this Act, for you cannot break your Oath of Allegiance you swore to become a magistrate, the option is mine and if you refuse to grant me my option, which is my right under the Act, then you yourself are in breach of common law, so you have no choice but to acquit me, for you have no right to deny me my birthrights as a British subject”. I will report soon of someone who not only used this system but got their expenses paid to them in full.

If they do not send you a court date, and they just send bailiffs to your house, then just comply with the bailiffs wishes. Then go immediately to your nearest magistrate court and apply for a “Statutory Declaration”. The Statutory Declaration is your chance to put to the court you was unaware of the trial to convict you, and you were not given your rights to defend yourself. This will overturn the ruling against you and the bailiff must return your money or your goods fore with.
In a court of law the jury is sovereign which basically means they make the ultimate decision on guilty or not guilty. The jury under common law can go against any law if they feel the law is unjust. They have the power to “null” a case if they feel the charge is unjust. No judge can rule against the jury’s final decision.

Protect yourself with this knowledge, for as we will prove very soon, Judges and magistrates dare not go against the Bill of Rights 1689, for it is the very statute they must obey.

Hope this helps Cruise man

PEACE

RED

chris
12-01-2008, 01:51 PM
This thread is great. I am certainly looking into it and I think we all should start to practice this kind of civil disobedience.

boots
12-01-2008, 10:22 PM
If they do not send you a court date, and they just send bailiffs to your house, then just comply with the bailiffs wishes. Then go immediately to your nearest magistrate court and apply for a “Statutory Declaration”. The Statutory Declaration is your chance to put to the court you was unaware of the trial to convict you, and you were not given your rights to defend yourself. This will overturn the ruling against you and the bailiff must return your money or your goods fore with.

Thank you for that info Redhead.:)
I'd like to state the trespass law is another tool of law that can be used for your protection as it was used in Australia when a sheriff and a police officer entered a property to serve a warrant to seize goods from the daughter of the property owner, in this case the the owner/father said to these people, Did you see the trespass sign which they both stated yes he was then able to take them to court and successfully sued both the Sheriff and the police officer. For the law states that no one shall enter your property. If it is an officer of the law there only right is when they are in pursuit of a suspect and they are not allowed to knock on your door or ask any questions aside from this you also have the right to evict them from the property giving them I think 11 mins to get out correct me if I am wrong and if you have any information relating to this could you please post.

Thank you.

boots
12-01-2008, 10:33 PM
GOOD LUCK. Cruise4 more power to you man. beat those bastards with there property tax bullshit.
And good info too.

Anyone have info/sites that relate to Australia? as this country is now a corporation and registered with the American SEC.

crazed
13-01-2008, 02:44 AM
Is anyone knowledgeable in Canadian law?

boots
13-01-2008, 06:57 AM
n both Common Law and in Statute Law, it is provided that -

“No Freeman shall be taken or imprisoned, or be disseised of his Freehold, or Liberties, or free Customs, or be outlawed, or exiled, or any other wise destroyed; nor will we not pass upon him, nor (condemn him) (defined by the Statute as meaning ‘deal with him’), (1) but by lawful judgment of his Peers, or by the Law of the Land. We will sell to no man; we will not deny or defer to any man either Justice or Right.”

Item (2) “That all Grants and Promises of Fines and Forfeitures of particular persons before Conviction are illegall and void.” Bill of Rights 1689 Section 2 clause 12

Could you provide a link to this please.

boots
13-01-2008, 07:04 AM
Vienna, this link does not work?

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6729904244308031068&q=magnificent+ deception&total=29&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search &plindex=0

boots
13-01-2008, 07:06 AM
Sorry, it does work now.

somewarez
13-01-2008, 07:16 AM
Thank you Vienna and Redhead :) for so much information, I am for sure going to try this. So I may have a few more questions along my journey. Your both stars for giving us such information :)

SW :)

cruise4
13-01-2008, 09:50 AM
Thanks again Red. I wasn't clear when I posted that corporate bond thing. I meant this...

I've got the impression that when the CAPITAL LETTERS fiction is created, it has a bond attached with a nominal value... and I've heard sums of like £1million bandied about.

Now if I've got an entity in my CAPTAL LETTERS name with that amount of money in it... who has access to this account and where's the money?

Anyone know anything about this?

ninja17
13-01-2008, 12:32 PM
be carefull..
http://home.hiwaay.net/~becraft/deadissues.htm

cruise4
14-01-2008, 08:00 AM
What do you make of this Red? Its a reply from someone when I posted the aforementioned information you gave...

The directors of a limited company are legally liable for the company, also it is a legal requirement for a company registered in UK to register for corporation tax and submit annual accounts even if no trading. Can't see the point of this it just transfers legal responsibility to named directors. As far as ct goes it is the registered person of the address who is liable to pay. If a company is the registered person then they are liable, if they don't pay the company is put into liquidation, the house is an asset sold by the receiver to recover the debt to ct authority. Adding in receiver's costs and company set up charges no advantage. There is no protection under human rights legislation for a company by registering as a company you lose protection. Also any property owned by a company whether private or business has higher insurance. there is also the cost of transferring house to company. If it stays with person they are still the registered person. Also you become a tenant of the company. Since company has to pay ct it has to trade to generate money to pay it.

ie11
14-01-2008, 11:49 AM
Vienna and Red,

Thanks for starting and posting this thread.

thank you.

vienna
14-01-2008, 12:34 PM
Vienna and Red,

Thanks for starting and posting this thread.

thank you.
Red is more ahead of the game than I am on this, and deserves the credit, but thanks anyway

here's the podcast for the above Robert Arthur Menard seminar (he's also a stand up comedian by profession, so listening to this is also very entertaining)

source for downloads are here:

http://arcticbeacon.com/audio/2007/2007-LRN/12-2007-LRN/1210-2007/

actual downloads:

Magnificent Deception Part 1 Robert-Arthur Menard mp3
http://arcticbeacon.com/sound_tidbits/Magnificent_Deception_Part_1-Robert-Arthur-_-Menard.mp3

Magnificent Deception Part 2 Robert-Arthur Menard mp3
http://arcticbeacon.com/sound_tidbits/Magnificent_Deception_Part_2-Robert-Arthur-_-Menard.mp3

downlaod them onto your ipod and listen to them until it sticks - I've had it playing a few times on my MP3 player and I intend to keep replaying them until it actuially penetrates my thick noodle and I actually understand this stuff - I have no training in Law but I'm learning fast - as we all should - our ignorance is their advantage

I think it's a matter of urgency that we get our act together on this before they enforce the microchip - and it will be impossible to separate 'corporate person' from actual 'human being'

this is why police ask for ID and name before anything else, they need to establish you as a 'person' before they can enforce the statutes

in those podcasts it tells you how to avoid this and play the game back at them

we need a notary to get our 'freeman of the land 'status and we can form our own 'freeman of england' society as Menard has formed in Canada once we do this we will be immune from their statutes - driving licence, taxes even having the ability to smoke pot in public (for those that smoke) as Menard does etc

vienna
14-01-2008, 04:29 PM
also check google video for

'bursting the bubbles of government deception'

and Mary crofts free online book

vienna
15-01-2008, 12:39 PM
natural person home page

http://www.natural-person.ca/

mr jones
15-01-2008, 03:16 PM
No problem man, heres a link to the article i copied

http://www.6towns.com/driving/Strawmanarticle.html

And heres a link to a google search for the form Statutory Declaration of True Name Straw Man
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Statutory+Declaration+of+True+Name+straw+man&meta=
at the start of the strawman article on that site, it says:-

The following article, written by someone in New Zealand, gives an excellent explanation of the artificial persona that is created whenever a "Certificate of Live Birth" is registered with the state. As evidenced by the writing below, this routine is not just limited to the U.S. of A.
There is a very interesting and practical suggestion made at the end of the article, but the first step in separating your flesh and blood identity from that of your 'strawman' is to reclaim your artificial entity (strawman) from being the state's debtor to being your debtor. That is accomplished (in the U.S.A.) through filing a UCC 1 Financing Statement with the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC) division of your Secretary of State's office.

what is the british version of the UCC1 financing statement called?

dondaz
15-01-2008, 08:25 PM
Great vid, just gonna get the kids to bed before I watch pert 2. I came across this guy ages ago. Started a thread on it actually last March, it's called Bursting Bubbles: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2122&highlight=bursting+bubbles

These beat the system vids are great and very very usefull.

Vienna and Red, great thread. This should be a sticky as it's really important information here. Watch it doesn't get burried in the useful reading/vid section before people have a chance to see this stuff.

How about a sticky for this thread please mods?

johnpeters
16-01-2008, 12:16 AM
Great post.

I've got a friend who's in prision and every time he goes to court he refuses to sign anything or enter into any contract. He's slowly having success.

For people interested in the strawam/commercial law scam Winston Shrout is a must:

http://www.winstonshroutsolutionsincommerce.com

Good Post Vienna,

Heres some more info on the straw man


The Untold History of "Straw Man" in British Common Law

Once one understands the true legal history of the "STRAW MAN," it is possible to tackle him head on.

UK's Inland Revenue Code

As you will discover, the Inland Revenue tax file number is a "public" number belonging to a "public persona," a "person," a legal entity different from yourself and artificial as well; i.e. existing in contemplation of or by force of law alone.

This is your alter ego, all-capital letters-written-name straw man. "STRAW MAN" is a legal term for a "front man," or nominal party to a transaction, existing in name only, which allows the owner to accomplish some purpose not otherwise permitted.

Owner, Slave and Master

A straw man serves its owner/master with slavish devotion, but the vast majority of you do not even know that you have one. If you lack this key perception, you may assume you are his owner, but you will never be the master!

[Herein lies the CONCEPT that will free you of worry and personal liability in operating virtual corporations in Cyberspace. OWNERSHIP is passé in the new age of digital laissez-faire capitalism. USE is the new' key perception' - as use pre-empts ownership. - RRR]

He has been running around obligating you and entering into all kinds of unconscionable contracts and causing you much grief, heartache, and economic misery. It is time you get to know this fellow and set things straight.

Most people understand that the law is very precise, with legalized deadly violence attached to the words appearing in the text of the codes that are enforced by both courts and police.

English and the Language of Law

The English language and its accepted rules of grammar are likewise precise, however, and make no accommodation for proper nouns to be written in all-capital letters. The all-capital letters-written name which appears on your IRD [Inland Revenue Department] Statements, driver's license, passport, bank statement, credit cards, etc., and which is rigidly enforced by the legal system, is not there by mistake - as the law is very precise.

But it is not your "True Name," which appears with only initial letters capitalised. The all-caps version is the name of your mirror image straw man and is written in another language: "Legalese." The primary pitfall is that an all-capital letters name sounds exactly like a true name when spoken). This phenomenon has no particular significance in our society - except in a courtroom, and a courtroom can be a dangerous place.

Simple observation tells us that a primary function of today's private, foreign-owned and operated court system is the transfer of personal wealth and freedom over to the banks and government.
The judge is calling out a name in one language, "Legalese," (he is reading from the legal documents in front of him), and you are innocently listening and answering in another, "English."

This otherwise harmless overlap of "language" is then immediately applied to your profound detriment. Such deception is now indispensable in maintaining the current level of commercial success of the courts (e.g. visit any "traffic court" for an hour and keep a tally of the proceeds). An all-capital letters-written name is an artificial construction and designates an artificial person existing only by force of or in contemplation of law.

The problem enters in when a man or woman mistakenly believes that such a corruption of their true name refers to them - a calamitous case of mistaken identity. However, all law-to be "law" - must offer remedy and recourse.

The Code is the Law

The private forum of the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code) offers such a remedy. This is not intended to be a cure-all for legal woes and does not pretend to be anything other than a work-in-progress for legal self-discovery.

For thousands of years the Powers That Be have been steadfastly constructing the System by which world law and commerce operate. They have developed their system utilising timeless principles of human interaction which, over the millennia, have been discovered and codified. These fundamental, common-sense principles underlie every form of law extant on the planet.

Every legal issue and dispute deals with one or more of these principles. Since all human interchange is commerce, in order to rule people it is necessary only to govern the commerce by which they interact and subsist.

Those operating the system have achieved their pre-eminence by knowing the foundational principles and encrypting them into "codes" for their own benefit, while confusing the masses and keeping them ignorant of such real law and how to employ it correctly. The pinnacle of their efforts to date is the UCC (Uniform Commercial Code). Commerce now functions under, and is securely entrenched in, the UCC.

The important points to remember are that while the UCC was formulated for purposes of exploitation and subjugation, it is a particular codification of the universal underlying laws of commerce, and, perhaps most importantly, can be employed for our benefit now that the code has been "cracked."

Protocols within the Code
The foundational maxims of the underlying commercial law, from which all law and commerce in the world today derive, are:

1.A workman is worthy of his hire.
2.All are equal under the law (moral and natural law).
3.In commerce truth is sovereign.
4.Truth is expressed in the form of an affidavit.
5.An unrebutted claim, charge, or affidavit stands as the truth in commerce.
6.An unrebutted affidavit becomes the judgement in commerce.
7.All matters must be expressed to be resolved.
8.He who leaves the field of battle first loses by default.
9.Sacrifice is the measure of credibility (one who has not been damaged by, given to, lost on account of, or put at risk by another has no basis to make claims or charges against him/her).
10.A lien or claim can be satisfied only through rebuttal by counter affidavit point-for-point, resolution by jury, or payment.

The reason, this scenario prevails is because the world has been set up to run precisely this way. We (the slaves) were just not supposed to figure it out.

Code is Set in Stone

Before the bankruptcy of the established nation states, [invocation of a debt-based system of finance], men and women sovereigns were personally accountable for their actions in courts that were set up to accommodate disputes among sovereigns (such as the original common law in England before 1066).

Now, the people's straw men, which are legally owned property of the system, are the "accountable parties" as adjudicated and enforced by the system. Such formerly sovereign men and women are now personally accountable because they are inextricably joined with their straw men which is owned via implied contract by a handful of arch-charlatans.

Courts today are set up to deal only with straw men. We, their unfortunate counterparts, are merely "along for the ride." A sovereign (real being) has no place in a contemporary court (commercial, dealing in artificial persons), and cannot be legally accommodated.

Only if the current debt-based system of finance and government is rectified will we ever get back to a sane and just basis for resolution of disputes and a sound civilisation.

Your Moral Code is Primary

As a great Indian sage stated the matter: "Seek the highest first." This means, inter alia, to maintain your integrity and ethical behavior. In practice this requires that you keep your word, honour your contracts, and not depart from your principles.

A fundamental flaw in Man's thinking is the notion that he can cheat moral or natural law (usually by trying to cheat others) and get away with it. Every such attempt generate inexorable cause/effect consequences, all man's philosophies, systems, and cleverness to the contrary notwithstanding.

The entirety of our predicament is due to failure to live in harmony and accord with moral and natural law. The current system is the cause/effect result of our own folly. All governments are expressions of, and exist by virtue of, the people's irresponsibility, ignorance, laziness, larceny, and surrender of personal power, freedom, and autonomy in exchange for "being taken care of."

In other words, every government exists due to the express will, as well as implied default of, the people (combined with the willingness of the ruthless to accept and manage the surrender of the people's power to the fictitious, artificially created, "government"). As Joseph de Maistre noted: "Every country gets the government it deserves."

What Can People Do?

To start with you must declare that you and your strawman are not one and the same.
This is done via a very carefully worded affidavit, a "Statutory Declaration of True Name". This affidavit states exactly what your correct name is and that you are not to be confused with or represent in any way any of the straw man versions of your name.

Next you will actually create an entity that takes on the names of your strawman. That is to say you will literally bring your straw man to life.

Your strawman will be an entity officially created under UK law having it's own legal status. The benefit is that you will not have to try and convince anyone that you are not one and the same as your strawman. It will be self-evident.

The strawman will have it's own director and owner. The director and owner will represent the entity in all matters. The place for service and official address will be the same as the man or woman the entity is created to protect.

For example Mr John Frank Doe and Mrs Jane Mary Doe of 22 New Street, Newmarket wish to protect themselves. This is what they do:

Mrs Jane Mary Doe forms a company called JOHN FRANK DOE LIMITED to protect her husband.

She then registers several names as "doing business as" these are the entities' registered trademark - names, registered at the Companies Office.

She registers: JOHN F. DOE, JOHN FRANK DOE, J. F. DOE, JOHN DOE, John Frank DOE, John F. Doe, J. F. Doe, John Doe, DOE John Frank.

Mrs Doe registers 22 New Street, Newmarket as the place for service etc..

The newly formed entity will conduct no business at all! It will have no NI [Inland Revenue Department] number and no bank account. It will essentially be a shelf company that exists in name only to prove legally that the entity exists and that John Frank Doe is not that entity.

Mr Doe will do the same for Mrs Doe.

Key Legal Perception
You do not want to own or direct a company that looks like your own name as that would serve to defeat the purpose. The reason the entity is formed is so that you are able to simply distinguish between yourself, the living man or woman, and the entity created by government to control you.

After reading this material, understanding its implications and applying it correctly you will be in a commanding position against prosecution in admiralty court.

As previously stated the courts can now only deal with the entities that governments create. The entity that sounds like your name does no business thus having a rock solid defence in any situation.


I wonder how long it takes them to bury this topic, as it seems the norm now on this forum for good info being buried under 100's of meaninless threads.

PEACE

RED

newfiesheep666
16-01-2008, 02:43 AM
Who has given the country,state,province,city,town or community the right to take anyone at the age of 5,put them in school 4 a dozen years and then tell them to go ta work 4 the next 40? I don't know of any document which people have to sign givin' the government this right.They give you freedom for the first 5 years of your life that you can hardly remember and the last 7 years of your life which you forget everything,nice contract don't ya think.:confused:

vienna
16-01-2008, 09:44 AM
Great vid, just gonna get the kids to bed before I watch pert 2. I came across this guy ages ago. Started a thread on it actually last March, it's called Bursting Bubbles: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2122&highlight=bursting+bubbles

These beat the system vids are great and very very usefull.

Vienna and Red, great thread. This should be a sticky as it's really important information here. Watch it doesn't get burried in the useful reading/vid section before people have a chance to see this stuff.

How about a sticky for this thread please mods?

great idea dondaz

how about it MODS?

vienna
16-01-2008, 09:49 AM
Great vid, just gonna get the kids to bed before I watch pert 2. I came across this guy ages ago. Started a thread on it actually last March, it's called Bursting Bubbles: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2122&highlight=bursting+bubbles

These beat the system vids are great and very very usefull.

Vienna and Red, great thread. This should be a sticky as it's really important information here. Watch it doesn't get burried in the useful reading/vid section before people have a chance to see this stuff.

How about a sticky for this thread please mods?

great idea dondaz

how about it MODS?


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cruise4
16-01-2008, 10:46 AM
"we need a notary to get our 'freeman of the land 'status and we can form our own 'freeman of england' society as Menard has formed in Canada once we do this we will be immune from their statutes - driving licence, taxes even having the ability to smoke pot in public (for those that smoke) as Menard does etc"

I like this idea a lot. By banding together we could maybe get something properly laid out that others could follow. I have noticed a distinct lack of anyone from the legal profession who wish to get involved in any of this and I think its obvious why... their profession don't exist really. Knowingly or not the legal profession is a major lynchpin of this criminal activity.

lottie
16-01-2008, 11:06 AM
great idea dondaz

how about it MODS?


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LOL!!! :D

I have no problem with it beinga sticky but it needs to be a sticky in the relevant thread- we've just had a 'general sticky clear-up' as we were had too many stickies in general!!
Happy with that?!! :)

vienna
16-01-2008, 11:12 AM
LOL!!! :D

I have no problem with it beinga sticky but it needs to be a sticky in the relevant thread- we've just had a 'general sticky clear-up' as we were had too many stickies in general!!
Happy with that?!! :)

I'd prefer it left in general to be honest , as this gets the maximum exposure- I put paramount importance on the information

and due to the nature of the information the more people that see it, the more it can be contributed to and advanced - to understand and impliment the practical steps.

the more people that see it the better as the probability of that unique person who has just that key piece of information seeing it and contributing is greater (people like the ones who've already posted here with extra info)

I'd say this is key

what you think?

vienna
16-01-2008, 11:15 AM
"we need a notary to get our 'freeman of the land 'status and we can form our own 'freeman of england' society as Menard has formed in Canada once we do this we will be immune from their statutes - driving licence, taxes even having the ability to smoke pot in public (for those that smoke) as Menard does etc"

I like this idea a lot. By banding together we could maybe get something properly laid out that others could follow. I have noticed a distinct lack of anyone from the legal profession who wish to get involved in any of this and I think its obvious why... their profession don't exist really. Knowingly or not the legal profession is a major lynchpin of this criminal activity.


I've posted the query on a legal advice web site and I'm booking a meeting with a solicitor (one of those free consultaion jobbies) for this purpose

vienna
16-01-2008, 11:54 AM
this is a quote from a member on the think free proboards:
http://thinkfreebefree.proboards105.com


Hey Guys,

I just thought I would bring this up. At a family dinner today, I had time to go over some things with a lawyer which is in my family. He's a family lawyer, who used to deal with criminal law.

So, the first thing of course I bring up, is of course "Is a person an artificial entity created under law, or is it a real live being with a soul?", I then went on to inform him that to my understanding, it's just a fiction of law. He said yup, that's true, and he's completely aware of that. I then started to go into some of the things in the video's put out by Thinkfree.ca, the notary process, as well as many other things. For the most part, he understood and agreed on mostly everything, except for a few points.

He said that no matter what you do, within, or outside of the law, that the powers that be, who control everything will do what ever they want to have their way. He said that it's best to do things within the system so you don't have to deal with it... I personally then felt that he was showing that he was scared of the powers that be, and was not willing to stand up for his rights. I then brought up the point that, the only way they get power, is by us handing it over to them through their intimidation. If we started standing up for our own rights, and stopped giving our power away, that they would loose all their power. He agreed that is correct, but still wasn't willing to take a stand.

I tried to enlighten him a bit and offer him some more information as well, but he wasn't really interested. He's a busy guy, so I don't really blame him. We had a good discussion though, and he confirmed a lot of what I have been feeling and researching in the last while.

It was a rather good conversation I thought, and he seemed to feel the same. I hope that once I have all my papers in order, everything filed, and I am in control of my own rights, and have them protected, I will probably approach him again and see if I can get him to come around. Since he is in my family, he's a lot more open, and from my conversations with him, I have come to understand that he is a very neutral, calm, and open minded guy, so he's not like the regular hard ass lawyer I'm always hearing about, or from.

lottie
16-01-2008, 11:56 AM
I'd prefer it left in general to be honest , as this gets the maximum exposure- I put paramount importance on the information

and due to the nature of the information the more people that see it, the more it can be contributed to and advanced - to understand and impliment the practical steps.

the more people that see it the better as the probability of that unique person who has just that key piece of information seeing it and contributing is greater (people like the ones who've already posted here with extra info)

I'd say this is key

what you think?

Hi Vienna- i agree it needs maximum exposure but as i said we're clearing out the sticky's in general and in future it'll be generally just for things posted by Admin ie; Sean or John....

So final offer is a sticky in the appropriate forum im afraid!!:)

vienna
16-01-2008, 12:00 PM
Hi Vienna- i agree it needs maximum exposure but as i said we're clearing out the sticky's in general and in future it'll be generally just for things posted by Admin ie; Sean or John....

So final offer is a sticky in the appropriate forum im afraid!!:)


offer politely rejected Lottie - but sincere thanks anyway

I'll just maintain it to keep it on page one - all I ask is you put a sticky with just a link to this thread ,as it remains here in the general board, on the other forum (best of both worlds - or having my cake and eating it)

I'll escort Mrs Doyle out now
:)

lottie
16-01-2008, 12:01 PM
I'll escort Mrs Doyle out now
:)

LOL- she put up a good fight!! Sorry!! :)

redhead
17-01-2008, 09:01 AM
:D:D:D

Good to see this thread still alive and kicking folks, its restored my faith in the forum, since posting this information towards the end of last week and sending an email to number 10(I copied that one Mrs Beckett sent regarding Treason), i've been really ill, thought i had food poisioning but my Missis's sister whos a nurse says i had that Novo Virus or something, but anyway im better now :D:D

Theres some good info in here now and we must all take time to digest it as its a learning curve we need to master as it can only benefit us.

I agree with Dondaz about the video Bursting Bubbles Of Government Deception, its a fantastic watch and was really the catalyst that started me looking into this sort of stuff.

This is a battle we can win peacefully and through total non co-operation, especially with all the political corruption coming to light, if more and more people find out about this info and how it can help them, it could have a snowball effect and the house of cards could finally come toppling down.

PEACE

RED

mr jones
18-01-2008, 05:45 PM
what is the british version of the UCC1 financing statement called?

cruise4
20-01-2008, 12:43 PM
UK government investigation of war crimes charges

We Are Change UK and the member of the Campaign to Make War History are responsible for bringing forth these charges. Excellent job!!!

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

'Blair Government police investigation for war crimes' PT2 - YouTube

Blair Government police investigation for war crimes PT3 - YouTube

Blair Government police investigation for war crimes PT4 - YouTube

Chris Coverdale is a brave man. He mentions the use of DU munitions. Also mentions that possibly 1 million Iraqis have been killed including 300,000 children. Mentioned that Blair said numerous times that "it was the right thing to do". Said they are investigating 14 different crimes that the US and GB have committed. Said the Americans could arrest Bush and have him tried under the Genocide Convention Implementation Act or the Proxmire Act.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

vienna
22-01-2008, 10:56 AM
I notioce Greg has posted this on his website:

Don't Want National ID Card Or To Be Micro-Chipped !!


First Step

File Your Petition To Get Back Your Sovereign, Christian Name As Citizens Did Prior To The 14th Amendment When We All Became Corporate, Federal Slaves....Here's How Click Here:

http://www.sovereigndocs.citymaker.com/home.html






http://www.arcticbeacon.com/

unfortunately this only works for US citizens no info on British ones yet

dondaz
22-01-2008, 08:52 PM
Shame about the sticky. Technicalities, I f*****g hate them!

Great going guys. It's teamwork that makes the dream work! Now, who's up for explaining all this to my camera?

Really good effort guys, thanks. Made my week has this thread. See you guys stick together on such important issues!

greenleaf
02-02-2008, 01:21 AM
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somewarez
03-02-2008, 01:10 AM
;)

whitenight639
05-02-2008, 04:07 AM
great thread. really good stuff (im just posting to keep this in my subscription list) however we need to wotk out how to follow the canadians ans US on freeing ourself in the uk we also need to look at the implications of bieng natural people again in relation to commerce, bank accounts and such, if theres ever been a group of people that could create a totally new and outhere idea that could be implemented as a fair system then we are the ones to do it.


mentioned is that the definition of society is a group of people working towards a common goal, well ladies and gents we are, the rest of the slaves are not maybe we can form a legally reconised society a society of natural spiritual bieng one that treats each other as one (i believe all laws were founded on the belief in god and that belief was an orthodox christian/ catholic belief ,

i would say this that the founding laws on a belief in a seperate god, one that is vengefull and has such a place as hell and purgatory is where we have gone wrong if we were to base law around basic principles that everyone is equal and everyone is god and is part of god then i think a new day would dawn for us and we could truely lead a better life and people would follow.

anyway im rambling..:rolleyes:

dmessick
05-02-2008, 04:21 PM
You must learn common/contract law and commercial law to be free. Once you realize that the majority of the laws we abide by are commercial laws and DO NOT apply to us things will change. You are not your name but operate in capacity of a name only. Your birth certificate is just a government commercial bond that they make you believe is you which makes you the surety for this bond. In order to be free you must learn all of this ( don't trust a lawyer to take care of your legal affairs, take care of them yourself ) and then finally quit your job and stop funding the Illuminati. I've always said if everyone will just stop working then the system will completely shut down. I have more money (all in cash too) than I ever had and haven't worked in over a year. YOU CAN BEAT THEM!! Protesting doesn't work, bitching and moaning about the agenda, bringing facts about how crazy and fucked up they are and what they are doing doesn't work but digging into there pockets and taking action towards real freedom from their system and not being a chicken shit does work. :) Learn Law, Quit Your Job and Stop Giving In To Their Slave System (I don't care if you like your job, make great money, have a family to feed or are just scared to try something new and better, if your not part of the solution then your part of the problem), Live free and abundant. Those are the steps to freedom. I'm living proof.

whitenight639
05-02-2008, 10:51 PM
You must learn common/contract law and commercial law to be free. Once you realize that the majority of the laws we abide by are commercial laws and DO NOT apply to us things will change. You are not your name but operate in capacity of a name only. Your birth certificate is just a government commercial bond that they make you believe is you which makes you the surety for this bond. In order to be free you must learn all of this ( don't trust a lawyer to take care of your legal affairs, take care of them yourself ) and then finally quit your job and stop funding the Illuminati. I've always said if everyone will just stop working then the system will completely shut down. I have more money (all in cash too) than I ever had and haven't worked in over a year. YOU CAN BEAT THEM!! Protesting doesn't work, bitching and moaning about the agenda, bringing facts about how crazy and fucked up they are and what they are doing doesn't work but digging into there pockets and taking action towards real freedom from their system and not being a chicken shit does work. :) Learn Law, Quit Your Job and Stop Giving In To Their Slave System (I don't care if you like your job, make great money, have a family to feed or are just scared to try something new and better, if your not part of the solution then your part of the problem), Live free and abundant. Those are the steps to freedom. I'm living proof.

good post can you tell me how you manifest money how do you manage?

thanks

armoured_amazon
06-02-2008, 02:30 PM
*bookmarks this*

I notioce Greg has posted this on his website:

Don't Want National ID Card Or To Be Micro-Chipped !!


First Step

File Your Petition To Get Back Your Sovereign, Christian Name As Citizens Did Prior To The 14th Amendment When We All Became Corporate, Federal Slaves....Here's How Click Here:

http://www.sovereigndocs.citymaker.com/home.html






http://www.arcticbeacon.com/

unfortunately this only works for US citizens no info on British ones yet


Heh, I was just about to ask about the Brits.

revolutionary_jam
06-02-2008, 03:44 PM
I always recommend everyone who hasn't to move their money to an ethical bank to make sure their money isn't being used to fund the arms industry and horrible corporations that put profit before people and the planet

The COOP does current accounts
and Triodos does savings, though there are others

heebeejeebee
16-02-2008, 09:42 PM
good post can you tell me how you manifest money how do you manage?

thanks

Hi, I'd like to know the answer to this also please

Many thanks :)

abstrakt
17-02-2008, 04:37 AM
Where would i start to research what is necessary to do this in Australia?

red_ram
05-03-2008, 09:02 PM
I always recommend everyone who hasn't to move their money to an ethical bank to make sure their money isn't being used to fund the arms industry and horrible corporations that put profit before people and the planet

The COOP does current accounts
and Triodos does savings, though there are others

The symbol the Co-op trading group has recently adapted for their loyalty card symbol is a bee (well-known Illuminati symbol as David has explained) and the Co-op Bank HQ building in Stockport is a pyramid. It is literally a large, glass pyramid.

I haven't investigated the Co-op/Illuminati connection but gives you food for thought.

vienna
13-05-2008, 09:55 AM
do we need a licence to drive a vehicle on the public road?

no we don't

by them getting us to apply (which in the legal world means 'beg') we define it as a motor vehicle (once defined we have to submit to the statutes which govern it - road tax etc) and through the registration process we give up ownership and create the legal entity the gov acts upon

we have a common law right of travel without registration

dmessick
14-05-2008, 02:31 AM
It's about time all of you caught up to me. Now, if you really want to dive into this subject and figure some things out start by looking at every bill, loan, drivers license, 'certified' birth certificate etc. pretty much anything that you think has 'your' name on it and ask yourself, Why the fuck is my name in capital letters? Well, only corporations according to commercial law, which only apply to them, have their legal commercial names in all caps, not real people.

We do not have first and last names either just a full name. Only corps have first and last names. ALL laws, by the way, (except of course common law) are statutes/commercial law/maritime law and all statutes only apply to fictional entities i.e corporations. Are you a corporation?

Remember that they started this commercial slave game and by playing into this illusionary system of control, giving your time and labor to them by working in jobs they create, banking in their system for THEIR money, YOU are helping to fund their agenda and you're not even being compensated for it. Being that we are the ones that support them using this system if you stop playing the game THEY WILL FALL!! For starters you should QUIT YOUR JOB!!! Well not your job but YOUR job. Did you catch that?

Look at the name on the paycheck they hand you. The corporate fiction they created in place of you is the one being compensated not you which is also why they can tax and regulate the income they give it because they own it, not you. You just operate in capacity of that name to work and bank in their system.

The money we accept for our time and labor isn't even real (it's just numbers on a screen) so why do you want to work for fake money anyway. If you have to use fiat money to get what you need like we all still do why not find a simple, easy, non-profit, NON-COMMERCIAL, untaxed, unregulated way that they can't track your every move with, where you are helping others like you and generating tons of CASH to do it until everyone gets on the same page and manifests a world without commerce.

I can't wait for the day to come where we are all able to give our time and talents freely to one another without payment and out of love but so many people are attached to slave laboring for money that it may be a long while before that happens.

The first step is always the hardest but is usually the smartest. It's been a year since I joined this activity and I have never had a better life. I have disconnected myself from their system ( with a few exceptions like having a drivers license so the pig cops stop harassing me) and have finally disappeared in plain site. You can check out my link below to find out how I achieved this goal then get back to me.

I only deal with people who contact me and are REALLY serious about this. Don't waste my time or yours please. I will work with you if you have no start up cash too. I just want you to stop helping them destroy the planet and your kids future and start helping yourself out of all of it.

phantom
04-11-2009, 07:44 PM
Bump! :)

brandonh
04-11-2009, 09:30 PM
you are not a person

you are a human being who has a person

a person is a legal entity they use to make you act and obey their statutes which are not enforcable if you declare your freeman-of-tht-land-status under common law

statutes apply to persons not to you

(A ‘statute’ is defined as ‘a legislated rule of society given the force of law.’)

things you think of as laws are in fact statutes and have no power over you unless you give them power over you by;

1.your ignorance
or
2. their deception

their deception only works because of your ignorance

educate yourself with this:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6729904244308031068&q=magnificent+deception&total=29&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0

Great Post!!!! :D