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adramelech

14-03-2007, 12:27 AM

Greetings everyone. I was a fairly active member of the old David Icke forum. I contributed a lot of personal and open-ended research, I like to build threads based on the different conclusions people can come to from the same information. I hope to see a lot of new faces here (as well as some old). Here is one of my most thought-provoking and popular subjects.

This is a work in selected quotations, excerpts and studies. No ultimate conclusion is arrived at, but rather I leave it up to the reader to decide what they think it all means.

"The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were the first ones to see those fleeting shadows, so they followed them around. They saw them as you're seeing them, and they saw them as energy that flows in the universe. And they did discover something transcendental.

They discovered that we have a companion for life...
We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives.

Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so. You have arrived, by your effort alone, to what the shamans of ancient Mexico called the topic of topics. I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico.

"'Why has this predator taken over in the fashion that you're describing, don Juan?' I asked. 'There must be a logical explanation.'

"'There is an explanation,' don Juan replied, 'which is the simplest explanation in the world. They took over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops. Therefore, their food is always available to them."

"I felt that my head was shaking violently from side to side. I could not express my profound sense of unease and discontentment, but my body moved to bring it to the surface. I shook from head to toe without any volition on my part.

"'No, no, no, no," I heard myself saying. "This is absurd, don Juan. What your saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone." "'Why not?' don Juan asked calmly. 'Why not? Because it infuriates you?' "'Yes, it infuriates me,' I retorted. 'Those claims are monstrous!'

"'I want to appeal to your analytical mind, ' don Juan said. 'Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal.'

"'But how can they do this, don Juan?' I asked, somehow angered further by what he was saying. 'Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?'

"'No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!' don Juan said, smiling. 'They are infinitely more efficient and organized than that. In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver - stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now.

I know that even though you have never suffered hunger... you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear.'"

- Carlos Castaneda

The field of clinical psychology has fought an uphill battle since its inception: defining a normal human being. Arguably, 1952 marked the first large-scale collective attempt, with the release of the first edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (or, the DSM-I). Today, the heavily updated DSM-TR-IV is in use, but the surviving paradigm defines mental disorders as 'deviations from normal function.' And all too often, "abnormal" boils down to "you'll know it when you see it."

Increasingly, however, various groups have pushed for an alternative (though not incompatible) approach: identifying multiple kinds of human. This growing viewpoint argues that so long as a condition is not explicitly harmful to a person or to their social environment, it should be considered an equally valid "way of being human." As researchers dig deeper into the characteristics many people still consider diseases or disorders, a remarkable variety of human subtypes emerge.

http://www.hare.org/images/snakes.jpg

Today, the movement has grown beyond a fight for civil rights: research now seeks to identify any groups whose mental landscape is distinct from the status quo. A notable (and disturbing) deviation is the subject of study for Dr. Robert Hare: psychopaths. Most psychopaths, he argues, are able to function in society despite being radically different from those around them. The 2006 release of Snakes In Suits: When Psychopaths Go To Work lays out Dr. Hare's position that many psychopaths operate comfortably in the ruthless arena of business, and that they are far more common than most people assume. Dr. Marnie Rice, who studies incarcerated criminal psychopaths, has gone one step further, arguing that psychopathy may be an evolved trait, producing an intra-species predator that uses a wide range of tools to take advantage of its peers and occupying a specific niche in human society.

As the mystery of human variety is further peeled back by research, we find that we have less in common with our fellow humans than we might think. The platitude that "everyone is an individual" is expanded to a deep uncertainty about people, a sense that there are aliens in our midst, no less intelligent but wildly different. Without a serious attempt to understand this enormous variety, we risk living life without ever really knowing anyone but ourselves."

http://belarius.newsvine.com/_news/2006/10/12/396564-branching-humanity

"It was nice while it lasted. But the idea that all the world's people are 99.9 per cent genetically identical -- that a mere sliver of DNA separates a Dolly Parton from a Dalai Lama -- is untrue.

An international research team has overturned the harmonious message that flowed from the Human Genome Project in 2000 and discovered more DNA differences exist among people than the experts expected.

Using new technology to study the genomes of 270 volunteers from four corners of the world, researchers have found that while people do indeed inherit one chromosome from each parent, they do not necessarily inherit one gene from mom and another from dad.

One parent can pass down to a child three or more copies of a single gene. In some cases, people can inherit as many as eight or 10 copies.

In rare instances a person might be missing a gene.

Yet despite these anomalies, they still appear to be healthy -- countering the notion of what doctors have deemed "normal" in genetics.

The work highlights how DNA helps to make each human unique, hinting that a towering basketball player, for example, might boast extra copies of a growth gene or that a daughter really might be more like her dad.

But the landmark report, published today by the journal Nature, also has disturbing implications.

"The genome is like an accordion that can stretch or shrink . . . so you have no idea what's normal," said Steve Scherer, a senior scientist at the Hospital for Sick Children in Toronto and study co-author.

Even the number of genes people can inherit, he said, a premise set out 150 years ago by Austrian monk Gregor Mendel, the father of modern genetics, has been upended.

"We have to think of genetics in an entirely different way. We're actually more like a patchwork of genetic code than bar codes that line up evenly," Dr. Scherer said. "Everything we've been taught is different now."

Their research finds that the size of at least 12 per cent of the genome -- including 2,900 genes and regions between them -- can differ dramatically between people, and in some cases, between certain ethnic groups.

The size differences are the result of DNA that is either duplicated or deleted or contains unexpected added bits of genetic code. Scientists call the phenomenon "copy number variation" or CNV for short. And it is already reshaping genetic research."

http://www.workopolis.com/servlet/Content/fasttrack/20061123/GENOME23?section=Healthcare

"ALTRUISM - helping others at a cost to oneself - has been a stubborn thorn in the side of evolutionary biologists. If natural selection favours genes that produce traits which increase the reproductive success of the individuals in which they reside, then altruism is precisely the sort of behaviour that should disappear.

Darwin was acutely aware of the problem that altruism posed for his theory of natural selection. He was particularly worried about the self-sacrificial behaviour that social insects display: how could natural selection explain why a worker bee will defend its hive by stinging an intruder and dying in the process? In On the Origin of Species, he summarised the topic of social insect altruism as "one special difficulty, which at first appeared to me to be insuperable, and actually fatal to the whole theory". But then he came up with an explanation.

Since worker bees were helping blood relatives - especially their queen - Darwin hypothesised that natural selection might favour altruism at the level of blood kin.

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Salvador Freixedo. He has challenged the might of the Catholic Church, been a witness to phantom animals up close, photographed the carcasses of freshly mutilated heads of cattle and climbed the heights of a mountain in search of alien contact until driven back by sonic booms. His books have examined every aspect of the UFO phenomenon and suggested frightening new theories. [...]

Respected for his ideas and erudition, the combative ex-Jesuit priest (he was granted an "ad divinis" suspension by the bishops of Puerto Rico on account of his controversial book Mi Iglesia Duerme (in 1968) has investigated some of the most mind-bending cases on record in South America and Spain.

Visionaries, Mystics and Contactees can be considered to be the first book in a "tetralogy" that explores in chilling detail - backed up by human legend and contactee lore - that Man is merely a creature of the gods, immensely powerful and non-corporeal entities who have masqueraded for centuries as the Gods. The worst offender among this gallery of entities is the biblical Yahweh, Freixedo tells us in 'Israel: pueblo contacto' (Israel: the contactee nation). These gods (always with a small "g") avail themselves of humanity much in the same way that we make use of animals: we kill them without hesitation for their meat and hides, but we do so with little, if any, animosity. Earth is a farm of the gods, he writes, and they exploit us for two things - blood and the waves emitted by our brains when we are either in pain or suffering. He has said of these 'gods' in a recent television appearance:

"...the ones from within have always been here and have created humanity much in the same way it has bred animals. They have toyed with us since the beginning. [...] Some dwell in giant spaceships, others beneath the earth, some 100 to 1000 meters below the surface. Others are totally invisible as they move among us..."

For the sake of those who are not regular readers, let me suggest that you check out my article on Ponerology which tells us that there is a statistical minority of human type beings on our planet that are quite simply not really human. As Professor Robert Hare says, they are an "intraspecies predator." Are they "alien/human" hybrids as might be inferred from the remarks of Padre Freixedo? Anything is possible. But what is important is to remember the above stated rules of Altruism; and to remember that they can apply to genetic pathological deviants as well as normal human beings. That is to say, that networks of deviants, as described by psychologist Andrzej Lobaczewski, can and do act "altruistically" toward each other to some extent, and have done for millennia."

http://www.signs-of-the-times.org/signs/editorials/signs20061115_JohnFKennedyandthePsychopathologyofP olitics.php

"Hyperdimensional Predators

Beyond the human level of evolution are several levels occupied by more sophisticated forms of life, including hostile beings with the ability to transcend space and linear time, read thoughts, manipulate emotions, puppeteer unaware individuals, and project themselves in and out of our physical reality.

They require emotional/etheric/vital energy to sustain themselves; mankind has long been their primary food source. They feed upon energies that are in resonance with their own soul vibrations: negative emotions, psychological suffering, and perverted sexual energies. Being greedy as they are, rather than just harvesting naturally occuring energies emitted by those who have freely chosen to engage in lower vibrational behavior, these predators seek to induce ignorance, suffering, and perversion in as many people as possible to maximize their energy harvest. While this isn’t technically a freewill violation (because they can only amplify what latent negative tendencies we already have within us), their forceful milking of energy via the Matrix Control System does constitute an imbalance because it encourages ignorance and slavery instead of awareness and freedom.

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Sociopaths or psychopaths are individuals who lack empathy and engage in predatory behavior without remorse or guilt. In general, this lack of conscience may stem from a conditioned lack of emotional identification with the victim, a narcissistic love of self that overrides any concern for others, or the mechanical inability to feel any emotion other than ones which are chemical or hormonal in origin. There are different categories of psychopaths depending on the underlying cause for their condition and how well they blend into society.

Criminal psychopaths are those who are crude enough in their manipulations to be identified and apprehended by legal and medical institutions. They are known as serial killers, con-artists, burglars, mobsters, mad tyrants, rapists, and delinquents. These comprise a small percentage of psychopaths, and only about 1% of the population.

The rest are successful psychopaths who evade detection by optimally conforming to social ideals without compromising their manipulative nature. They are skilled at faking emotions and passing themselves off as charming, caring, and sociable people. Some use their conformity to appear ordinary, others are more ambitious and become symbols of success by using their charm and intellect to rapidly climb the corporate, political, academic, religious, military, or social ladder. Between 20% and 50% of the population is included in this category.

The term “soul” may be defined as a nonphysical unit of consciousness whose core individuality survives death and rebirth. By this definition, some people have individualized souls, some do not. The latter incarnate with definite soul energy, but nothing sufficiently individualized to avoid dissolution after death. The individualized consciousness of souled humans affords them the ability to choose what to do with the genetic, environmental, and karmic conditions they acquire upon incarnating. Nonsouled humans lack this choice and are entirely the product of their environment and genetics. Psychopaths exist within both categories.

Souled psychopaths are either environmentally programmed to act against their own conscience, or else have made the consistent choice to behave in a narcissistic and predatory manner. Those who are programmed have chance for recovery, while the attempt to change those who choose psychopathy only reinforces their behavior. Souled psychopaths feel love and hate, but only love for self and hate for others.

This condition is well illustrated by certain Nazis or Zionists who love their own race but feel no guilt about murdering those of another. Souled psychopaths also have empathy and conscience, but these are perverted and reserved for special cases. For example, some mobsters seem to act upon a strong moral code and thus appear as upright heroes to those they protect, but are nevertheless criminal psychopaths. The greatest tyrants in history were souled psychopaths who passionately pursued their twisted goals."

http://www.montalk.net/

"Although he deliberately cheats others and is quite conscious of his lies, he appears unable to distinguish adequately between his own pseudointentions, pseudoremorse, pseudolove, and the genuine responses of a normal person.

Apparently blocked from fulfillment at deep levels, the psychopath is not unnaturally pushed toward some sort of divertissement. Even weak impulses, petty and fleeting gratifications, are sufficient to produce in him injudicious, distasteful, and even outlandish misbehavior."

- Hervey Cleckley, The Mask of Sanity.

". . . a person lacking eros (love) can be charming . . . the presence of eros makes life difficult for people . . . Eros means caring, and if someone cares for whatever or whoever it may be, worries, nervousness, even neurotic tensions can be the result. Loving persons are seldom cool and relaxed, but people suffering from a deficient eros are unconcerned and so do not worry; often they are very relaxed and easy-going.

Relationships (for psychopaths) are things of the moment . . . their motto seem(s) to be "Out of sight, out of mind."

- Adolph Guggenbuhl-Craig, The Emptied Soul.

"Callous, deceitful, reckless, guiltless . . . The psychopath understands the wishes and concerns of others; he simply does not care . . . The psychopath believes that rules and morals are for other, weaker people who obey because they fear punishment . . . No matter how bright, and a psychopath is often very bright, he rarely maintains a regular job . . . he may have an ingratiating manner and superficial charm, be persuasive, poised . . . Lying, evasiveness, feigned forgetfulness, vague and inconsistent answers about his past . . ."

- Dr. David B. Adams

http://www.geocities.com/lycium7/psychopathy.html

"If a collection were to be made of all the books that describe the horrors of wars, the cruelties of revolutions, and the bloody deeds of political leaders and systems, most people would avoid such a library. In such a library, ancient works would be found alongside books by contemporary historians and reporters. The documentary evidence on German extermination and concentration camps, complete with dry statistical data, describing the well-organized “labor” of the destruction of human life, would be seen to use a properly calm language, and would provide the basis for acknowledging the nature of Evil.

The autobiography of Rudolf Hess, the commander of camps in Osweicim (Auschwitz) and Brzezinka, (Birkenau) is a classic example of how an intelligent psychopath thinks and feels.

Our library of death would include works on philosophy discussing the social and moral aspects of the genesis of Evil, while using history to partially justify the blood-drenched “solutions”.

Most human beings are horrified by such literature. Hedonistic societies have the strong tendency to encourage escape into ignorance or naive doctrines. Some people even feel contempt for the suffering of others.

It is true that, in tracking the behavioral mechanisms of the genesis of Evil, one must keep both abhorrence and fear under control, submit to a passion for science, and develop the calm outlook needed in natural history.

Moral evil and psychobiological evil are interlinked via so many causal relationships and mutual influences that they can only be separated by means of abstraction. However, the ability to distinguish them qualitatively protects us from moralizing interpretations that so easily can poison the human mind in an insidious way.

Macro-social phenomena of Evil, which constitute the most important object of this book, appear to be subjected to the same laws of nature operating within human beings on individual or small-group levels. The role of persons with various psychological defects and anomalies of a clinically low level appear to be a perennial characteristic of such phenomena.

In the macro-social phenomenon where Evil runs rampant, “Pathocracy,” a certain hereditary anomaly isolated as “essential psychopathy” is catalytically and causatively essential for the genesis and survival of such a State.[…]"

- Andrew M. Lobczewski

"This last remark is the key to “grand conspiracies” that many are convinced cannot exist. Dr. Lobaczewski discusses the kinds of individuals that form a “Pathocracy,” or “psychopathic government,” and further, he elaborates details about psychopaths based on his studies and the studies of those with whom he was associated, that have never been openly discussed as far as I can tell after reading many thousands of pages of material on the subject generated in the West. Dr. Lobaczewski, on the other hand, undertook his studies “in the belly of the beast,” so to say, with live “specimens”. The value of such a study cannot be overstated."

"In my book, Without Conscience, I argued that we live in a "camouflage society," a society in which some psychopathic traits- egocentricity, lack of concern for others, superficiality, style over substance, being "cool," manipulativeness, and so forth- increasingly are tolerated and even valued. With respect to the topic of this article, it is easy to see how both psychopaths and those with ASPD could blend in readily with groups holding antisocial or criminal values. It is more difficult to envisage how those with ASPD could hide out among more prosocial segments of society. Yet psychopaths have little difficulty infiltrating the domains of business, politics, law enforcement, government, academia and other social structures (Babiak). It is the egocentric, cold-blooded and remorseless psychopaths who blend into all aspects of society and have such devastating impacts on people around them who send chills down the spines of law enforcement officers."

Hare, Robert D. Psychopathy and Antisocial Personality Disorder: A Case of Diagnostic Confusion, Psychiatric Times, February 1996: Vol. XIII Issue 2

bluestar

14-03-2007, 02:47 AM

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------from a post in matrix section

ARCHONS

It is a hard and unfortunate fact that awakening humanity must face, is that it is not alone. That some of humanity are realizing and testifying that humanity co-exists with unseen predators of a very different reality and awareness then what humanity itself possesses. A hidden enemy, sinister in intent that has been using humanity for its own design and purpose since the very beginning of humanities existence. An evil that mass humanity is totally oblivious to yet must face if they are to stand even the smallest of chance in these final days of its collective history.

Few people today ever consider life beyond their little selves. Lost in a labrynth of ideals, self pursuits and attainments most people go about their mundane and trivial lives in a subconscious trance. Inconsiderate as to the nature and truth of their reality, blindly accepting that which is presented to them, the fundamental questions of their existence are by-passed in which they merely shrug off or try to avoid that which exists beyond the understanding or comprehension of their little selves. Yet this guided ignorance and self absorbtion that has seemingly given the illusion of security and safety in this chaotic and fallen universe of death is now coming to its end. Under cosmic impetus this world is now being forced to face that which it will not face itself. It is time that humanity understands the true and foul nature of this admixed and truly predotorial hell that it exists within and by what it is surrounded.

Beyond the periphery of human awareness and perception exists a shadow. An undivine yet parallel reality that overshadows and is an integral part of humanities own. Sealed from human awareness this predatory and parasitic alien awareness has used humanities existence as literal batteries to feed and sustain its own. Birthed from the very depths of the cosmos from the dawn of creation its body and mind is the very darkness permeating this fallen reality. A great matrix of dark matter and miscreant self awareness, a prime-evil intelligence that has infiltrated and grafted itself to humanity and now feeds upon and shares its awareness.

This twisted and sick abortion thrown from an abberate and dark life stream of awareness that pervades fallen reality known to some as the demiurge, infused itself to humanities collective and individual minds slowly gaining control, drawing and consuming humanity into itself. It is known to many as the chief archon, the first or by some yaaltaboth or satanael. Humanities physical shells are themselves composed and part of this twisted matrix of awareness trapping their consciousness into the realms of materiality and self identification admixed with its own reality, humanities fallen and limited organic awareness itself being part of its duality- the shadow of its own inorganic awareness.

Its children known by some as inorganic beings or archons co-exist in the shadows of humanities awareness as black fleeting alien shadows amongst us, manipulating us and keeping us in a vibrational prison so that we remain unaware of their existence. They are the whispers of deception and doubt in our very individual and collective mind in which they themselves have merged. They are the intelligence and evil working through the eaten and empty vehicular husks of the world controllers, seeking to control, dominate and harvest humanity into their miscreant and illusional reality. Infusing humanity with their lusts keeping humanity asleep and estranging them from their hearts, locked within egoic identification. Our etheric shells host their parasitic larvae as their tenebific filaments infiltrate and invade our minds. They are the aliens of darkness that have interbred with our races, polluting and genetically poisoning us with their miscreant seed. They sit amongst us and feed from the shadows when we gather at sporting events, social gatherings and church congregations, creating wars and confusing beings controling humanity into its mass and mundane trivial pursuits as they feed off our energy, forcing enmasse ether bleedings and consuming humanities etheric bodies keeping humanity just aware and sustained enough as to provide them their sustenance. For it is the archons themselves that father humanities given matrix of experience and are the guiding hand that controls the time loop of our supposed evolution.

There are many classes and types of inorganic beings, they have been given various names by the various shaman, sorcerers and occultists of the past. In which many throughout humanities history in fear and attempts to save themselves from their evil entered into compacts and energetic agreements with these beings in exchange for their "freedom". Yet fell victim to lucifer and lost themselves to the inorganic realms completely, these old and ancient lineages of sorcerers, witches and magi are today known as the brothers of shadow.

They through their attempts entered into a deeper and terrible symbiotic relationship themselves with these beings, feeding themselves with the dark energy that these very beings subsist in to become a class of inorganic being themselves. Thus they entered into a truly vampiric relationship with humanity, lost in the nether realms of shadow they are compelled to seek recruitment from humanity itself to feed and perpetuate their lineages. Essentially the cost and conclusion of black magic is merging with this non-reality and shadow side of organic life, this is the true aim and deception of sorcery and black magic and the incredible cost of following the left hand path. A supposed and awful illusion of freedom lost in the lucerferic abyss in the realms of uncreation within the dark depths of this undivine and hostile universe.

Collectively at the end of this cycle humanity today faces this very situation. This great shadow that humanity has been usurped by and merged within seeks humanities final absorption at the end of this cycle into its body of awareness which is known as the second death, which is subversion of the human life field into the realm of uncreation. The evil that has infected this world has over time and space sought to overtake and consume humanity to achieve its dark and collective harvest.

In anticipation of this terrible event divine intelligences bought forth a great plan known today by some as the divine plan of salvation. Its implementation through its servants of light has been the great battle that has waged mostly beyond the knowledge and awareness of humanity which today reaches its climax in this armageddon. Today gaia herself is awakening and must now arise from her slumber. Under cosmic impetus the cleansing, renewal and transmutation of her lower planes has now begun as the cosmic fire descends upon her sphere.The great sword of spirit must now free those true and viable sparks from and amongst humanity, rendering this great and miscreant evil that has infused itself into her body and her children's awareness. This evil mind is aware of this hour and now is growing desperate, its minions that have remained hidden are now becoming more ravenous and furious understanding that their time draws short. The servants of darkness have been preparing for this very hour, mass humanity have been estranged from their birth right, lost and consumed by fear, controlled and manipulated through deception shall this world be herded into the dark abyss. Satan shall in this hour come down terribly upon humanity in this final hour, in its madness and futility. This great battle humanity must now face within and without on all planes of its reality.

azure

14-03-2007, 03:05 AM

Praise Jesus, you're back! Looking forward to more of your posts. For those who were not on the old forum, Adramelech is an absolute ocean of knowledge.

It is important for us to understand however, don't meet any individual with hate, love is the most power force and conquers all, if you met with such individuals meet them with love and it should confuse them into leaving you alone.

I don't know what things are like over in namby-pamby fluffy-bunny land, but here in reality meeting the cold, calculating and manipulative with a lovey-dovey attitude will do nothing else than make you that much easier to use and exploit -- or worse, as the case may be.

Satan shall in this hour come down terribly upon humanity in this final hour, in its madness and futility.

Oh dear. :rolleyes:

rastamasta

14-03-2007, 03:09 AM

Interdimentional Entity Problem here's a soloution

Spirit Releasement Therapy, A Technique Manual Reviewed by Roger Woolger, Ph.D.

William Baldwin's eagerly awaited book, Spirit Releasement Therapy, A Technique Manual is a brilliant, daring tour de force whose appearance I am delighted to celebrate. Dr. Baldwin has integrated an enormous range of techniques and much accumulated wisdom gleaned from past life therapy, spirit possession syndrome, soul retrieval, inner child work, multiple personality disorder (MPD), or dissociative identity disorder (DID), and traditional psychotherapy.

In the Introduction he offers a very useful and concise overview of spirit possession and its treatment throughout history. In section two, Regression Therapy, he presents an up-to-date survey of the principles and techniques currently used in present life and past life regression therapy by clinicians working in the field. Dr. Baldwin outlines induction techniques, ways of working though the life, remembered traumatic events, the death transition and many other techniques, and includes useful examples of how to apply them.

Section three, Recovery of Soul-mind Fragmentation, though relatively short, is in many ways the pivotal section of the book, theoretically speaking. Dr. Baldwin outlines and integrates the shamanic concept of "soul loss" in reaction to trauma with psychiatric views of personality splitting and the kind of dissociation to be found in extremis in MPD (DID). The key concept here is the idea of subpersonalities or fragmentary souls. This notion figured quite prominently in the early psychiatric work of Jung, Janet and Assagioli, and later came to form the basis of those techniques for the psychotherapeutic integration of the personality developed by Psychosynthesis, Jungian analytic psychology, psychodrama, Gestalt therapy, Voice Dialogue and, most recently, Inner Child work.

Section four, Spirit Releasement Therapy, is the longest of the book. It contains the highly original battery of techniques developed by Dr. William Baldwin during years of research and therapeutic practice. Because of its extraordinary comprehensiveness and mass of critical detail, will surely stand as a major reference source for years to come. Dr. Baldwin describes and illustrates therapeutic strategies for working with a huge range of possessing entities or psycho-spiritual formations. Most importantly, he provides specific lines of inquiry that enable the therapist to make a differential diagnosis in difficult cases (e.g. sub and alter personalities vs. human spirits, dark force entities, and those from "far away" that might be designated aliens or extraterrestrials).

This highly important breakdown of these confusing phenomena into three orders or types of possession necessarily implies a different metaphysical and metapsychological status for different possessing entities. There are different strategies for releasing a human entity and a demonic entity, or working with a multiple personality alter, for example. It is precisely such crystal clear differentiation between the different orders and types of attachment, along with an abundance of clearly illustrated case examples that makes this section so valuable and quite unique.

The notion of attributing numerous varieties of psychopathology and physical conditions to the intrusion of non-resident spirits or entities is one that has been assiduously resisted and ridiculed by main stream psychologists and psychiatrists for most of the century. If the straight psychological world scoffs at past lives and reincarnation it is openly contemptuous about practices that go by the name of exorcism, depossession, or spirit releasement therapy (Baldwin's own user friendly coinage). After all, they would say, haven't the great advances in psychoanalysis and the grounding of psychological research in empiricism and scientific method come about precisely because the old superstitions about ghosts, witchcraft and magic have total discredited?

Apparently not. Much of the populace at large still continues to believe in "the presence of other worlds" (to borrow a phrase from Swedenborg) while the open antagonism of the split between religion, channeling, esoteric healing, etc. (the perspective of spirit) and psychology (the perspective of soul or psyche) refuses to go away. The very fact that Dr. Baldwin does not publish separate books on past life therapy and spirit releasement therapy is of crucial significance in and of itself. And secondly he implicitly recognized that regression therapy and spirit releasement therapy complement, in the sense of complete each other. They are part of a greater endeavor, as Dr. Baldwin himself puts it:

The purpose of regression therapy is to heal the scars of the soul. Nothing is left out, no human experience is denied; the aim is uncovering the truth. No amount of narrowly defined professional training, no restrictive religious training, no arbitrary limits of any kind can be allowed to interfere with the exploration of the spiritual reality (p.38).

This long overdue reintegration of the spiritualist/shamanic perspective back into psychotherapy and spiritual healing is, I believe, the next and essential stage in the development of psychology, a kind of return to the source. And right at the vanguard of this reunion we have William Baldwin's remarkable book. It is a milestone we will all look back to. I predict it will be referred to and argued about for years.

http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Releasement-Therapy-Technique-Manual/dp/092991516X/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/103-4626712-6797429?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1173834380&sr=8-1

bluestar

14-03-2007, 03:34 AM

For some associated articles-

http://theswordbluestar.bravehost.com

rastamasta

14-03-2007, 03:35 AM

Here's some more about Soul Fragments and Soul Retrieval

A shaman is a man or woman who interacts directly with spirits to address the spiritual aspects of illness, perform soul retrievals, divine information, help the spirits of deceased people cross over, and perform a variety of ceremonies for the community. Shamans have taken on many roles in tribal communities. They have acted as healers, doctors, priests, psychotherapists, mystics, and storytellers.

Shamans look at the spiritual form of illness which might manifest on an emotional or physical level. When I was doing the research for my book Soul Retrieval Mending the Fragmented Self I found that most shamanic cultures around the world believe that illness is due to the loss of the soul.

It is believed that whenever we suffer an emotional or physical trauma a piece of our soul flees the body in order to survive the experience. The definition of soul that I am using is soul is our essence, life force, the part of our vitality that keeps us alive and thriving.

The types of trauma that could cause soul loss in our culture would be any kind of abuse sexual, physical, or emotional. Other causes could be an accident, being in a war, being a victim of a terrorist act, acting against our morals, being in a natural disaster (a fire, hurricane, earthquake, tornado, etc.), surgery, addictions, divorce, or death of a loved one.

Any event that causes shock could cause soul loss. And what might cause soul loss in one person might not cause soul loss in another. Shamans believe that alarm clocks can cause soul loss. I think we all know what they mean.

It is important to understand that soul loss is a good thing that happens to us. It is how we survive pain. If I was going to be in a head on car collision the last place that I would want to be at the point of impact is in my body. My psyche could not endure that kind of pain. So our psyches have this brilliant self protect mechanism where a part of our essence or soul leaves the body so that we do not feel the full impact of the pain.

In psychology we talk about this as disassociation. But in psychology we don’t talk about what disassociates and where that part goes. In shamanism we know that a piece of the soul leaves the body and goes to a territory in what shamans call non ordinary reality where it waits until someone intervenes in the spiritual realms and facilitates its return.

Although soul loss is a survival mechanism the problem from a shamanic point of view is that the soul part that left usually does not come back on its own. The soul might be lost, or stolen by another person, or doesn’t know the trauma has passed and it is safe to return.

It has always been the role of the shaman to go into an altered state of consciousness and track down where the soul fled to in the alternate realities and return it to the body of the client.

There are many common symptoms of soul loss. Some of the more common ones would be dissociation where a person does not feel fully in his or her body and alive and fully engaged in life. Other symptoms include chronic depression, suicidal tendencies, post traumatic stress syndrome, immune deficiency problems, and grief that just does not heal. Addictions are also a sign of soul loss as we seek external sources to fill up the empty spaces inside of us whether through substances, food, relationships, work, or buying material objects.

Anytime someone says I have never been the same since a certain event and they don’t mean this in a good way soul loss has probably occurred.

You can really see how much soul loss there is today as we put money over life. Anytime someone says that we have to kill other life forms for material gain that person must be suffering from soul loss. Anytime someone feels that buying one more car or that gathering material objects will bring happiness that person is suffering from the loss of soul. As you can see we are looking at a great deal of planetary soul loss today as you watch how we behave towards each other and the rest of life.

It is interesting to note that as soul loss was so understood in shamanic cultures people who suffered traumas were given a soul retrieval within three days after a trauma occurred.

Today as we have not been practicing soul retrieval modern day practitioners are going back ten, twenty, thirty, or forty years or even more looking for lost soul parts.

Also in a shamanic culture the individuals knew what was out of balance in their lives that might have caused an illness or issue to occur.

In our culture we are unaware of what is out of spiritual harmony that is creating illness. And because often our soul loss happened so young we are unaware of the unconscious patterns we are living out due to our first soul loss. We are always trying to retrieve our soul. And how we do this is by repeating the same trauma over and over again. The names might change of the people involved in our life story, but the story is often the same.

The effects of having a soul retrieval vary person to person. Some people feel that they are more grounded in their body and feel more solid. Some people feel lighter and a joyful way of being returns to them. For some memories of the past traumas might be triggered bringing up a variety of feelings that must be worked through. And for some people the effects are too subtle to notice a change until further work to integrate the soul is done.

As people feel more present in their bodies and in the world they become more conscious of behavior that might be out of balance and disharmonious.

I believe that once a person has his or her soul brought back the client now has to do some work. If the person has done a lot of personal work the soul retrieval might be the end of the work. If not the soul retrieval would be the beginning of the work.

This is vital work for the times we live in. The earth wants her children home and she wants them home now. It is time to come back home again and take our rightful place on the earth. It is our birthright to fully express our souls and create the world we want to live in. And it is our birthright to shine as brightly as the stars above us. It is time to share our light again in the world.

http://www.sandraingerman.com

neondestiny

14-03-2007, 03:41 AM

Hi Aldramech,
Welcome to the forum and thank you for posting and sharing with us, a lot of "food for thought" in yours and following posts.
I look forward to reading more from you in the future.
Brightest of blessings
neon

phoenix1

14-03-2007, 03:43 AM

HEY adramelech good to see your in here!

I had your thread bookmarked for a good sussing out till The Forum went down..after reading"FLYING SERPENTS AND DRAGONS The Story Of Mankind's Reptillian Past" by ex NSA Cryptologist and intelligence reporter Rene Andrew Boulay, ..who worked in various analytical activities....he was also a brilliant author. This is also an e-book I had posted there....and I could post it here if it wern't for freakin rules....I wanted to explore that a bit too.

I love the thread title...I guess I was so busy with my Khufu thread in Esoteric...I didn't get time...but anyway,,,Ive decided to post here (for a while anyway) to suss out a few newbies...and see the drift.

Another top read in this area...and I'm sure you know is The Emerald Tablets Of Thoth....when you read them a few times...the myst kinda clears..and they begin to flow through you...well they do for me,

anyway ..im gonna post the Emerald Tablets for ya all to see if you haven't seen them....here they are....

The Material in these...when you know HOW to read them is intense.

http://www.crystalinks.com/emeraldpreface.html from this site (to keep the mods happy)

http://www.crystalinks.com/

Yeah top thread...I really wanna look at...when I get the bloody time LOL

Nice to be among old Warriors:cool: ;)

neondestiny

14-03-2007, 04:43 AM

Could i be so speacial i am to have a great effect in helping mankind?

I don't want to seem arrogant, i don't feel much emotion so this is coming out of pure logic and anaysis of what is.

Could use some support here.

Peace and Love

GFG

Im on my way out, but thought I would pop in and give you my thoughts on what you have written.

Yes! you are special and I believe will have great effect in helping others, having said that please understand that this does not make anyone superior or inferior, everyone is unique and special ;) and everyone (even the evil doers) have the spark and possibility within them to orchestrate good in the world.
I believe that people and situations arise in our lives to teach us or more importantly guide us towards a broader understanding of this world and ourselves.
I am going to head off now, but will leave you with this saying for you to interpret and contemplate for yourself.

"Know thyself"

I would be interested in your thoughts on what I have written above gfg and what it means to you when I return, until then stay safe lil bro.
Brightest of blessings
neon xxx

tru3

14-03-2007, 05:13 PM

The Predator of Man

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Greetings everyone. I was a fairly active member of the old David Icke forum. I contributed a lot of personal and open-ended research, I like to build threads based on the different conclusions people can come to from the same information. I hope to see a lot of new faces here (as well as some old). Here is one of my most thought-provoking and popular subjects.

This is a work in selected quotations, excerpts and studies. No ultimate conclusion is arrived at, but rather I leave it up to the reader to decide what they think it all means.

welcome to the new (and much improved, imo) forum.

damn sam! that's a lot to digest in one sitting. i'll definitely subscribe to this thread. thanks! :)

"The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were the first ones to see those fleeting shadows, so they followed them around. They saw them as you're seeing them, and they saw them as energy that flows in the universe. And they did discover something transcendental.

They discovered that we have a companion for life...
We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives.

Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so. You have arrived, by your effort alone, to what the shamans of ancient Mexico called the topic of topics. I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico.

for me, it's no coincidence that you showed up now, and put this topic at the top of the list.

please see "subliminal messages in apocalypto" : http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1675

i was quite surprised at first of the strength of my feelings about this movie. i rarely ever take the stance of calling anyone or anything discussed here "s.f.'s". it was quite irrational, on face value.

and yet, all this information, all these thoughts and emotions started coming up, more anger than fear, if i had to label it. i started remembering stuff i read a dozen years ago, that at the time i had no context for. i honestly don't know if i'm completely off the wall on this one, but i've had the feeling that ever since i first saw ted's thread, that i had a previous incarnation as one of those who were sacrificed as in the movie, but it was all the way back in mu.

normally, i don't worry about past lives; i figure if i haven't handled a lesson in one, it will come back and bite me in the ass in this one! :D plenty of fertile ground to till right here, right now.

but this one is different for me. it's like i've come back to forgive these entities (if there are indeed more than one) for what they did to "me" then.

not to avenge, but forgive them. does that make any sense at all? :confused:

i'd really appreciate some thoughtful gentle feedback on this...

ho1ogram

14-03-2007, 06:52 PM

tru3

14-03-2007, 07:27 PM

thanks for the response, ho1ogram.

And... if the hyperdimensionals can't do anything against our will (which is how I interpret it from the first two paragraphs of that section) then it is simply our ignorance that is allowing this feeding to take place.

It is simple once you know what we are dealing with. Putting it into practice is rather more difficult though, it would seem.

But knowing our own selves would give us the answers, as we are the lizards. It ties into all the eastern philosophy stuff, know thy self and all that.

this is why i think at least some rudimentary knowledge of the human energy field and sacred geometry is essential. these are the gateways of manipulation, in the sense that fire can be manipulated to heat our homes or burn down our neighbor's.

just the simple awareness of these things allows us to begin to take back our "autonomy". no one need mutter incantations, look at symbols-- our bodies are living mandalas! they ARE symbols. by focusing on and resting as the seer, the seen is rendered powerless.

the fastest way to command the ego to retreat in any situation is to ask, "who is having this experience? who is feeling angry/threatened/scared/wotteva? the god program/ego has no answer to this question. all that is heard is silence.

sweet, blessed Silence! :)

i agree with everything you just said there, bud. cheers!

unicorn

14-03-2007, 08:56 PM

07/07/07 which is not a number of god but of the anti-chirst

Number of the antichrist... how come? :confused: Please explain...

Anders Lindman

14-03-2007, 09:51 PM

The rest are successful psychopaths ... Between 20% and 50% of the population is included in this category.

Now, that's scary! Are these really accurate figures?

ho1ogram

15-03-2007, 07:31 AM

Rastamasta. That all makes a lot of sense. Losing parts of our soul through trauma etc, and throughout different lives and ages, would lead us to have psycopathic tendencies and behaviours. I had a look at Sandra's website and she doesn't say that we lose any intelligence when we lose parts of our soul, which corresponds with adramelech's info. about psychopaths. Smart but not complete. Lacking empathy.

Medicine for the Earth: Healing Our Planet

...One of the most important messages I was to receive over my twenty years of journeying on this was it is who we become that changes the world and our environment not what we do. Harmony within will create harmony without. So the true work is learning how to change our thoughts, attitudes and belief systems. We actually have to work with “ the alchemy of the soul” to really be able to change our inner environment as our inner state of being will be reflected in the outer world. The literal definition of alchemy is “working within and through the dense darkness inside.” This is big work and involves committing to spiritual practices that we must engage in daily and throughout the day.
http://www.sandraingerman.com/abstractonshamanism.html

If only I had someone like Don Juan to keep me focused throughout the day.

Perhaps through the work of Carlos Castaneda, Sandra Ingerman, Icke etc, we are gaining the tools to be our own teachers, through the 100th monkey syndrome and by accessing the information they publish. "When the student is ready the teacher will appear." Perhaps when I am sick and tired of being sick and tired I will be my own teacher.

this is why i think at least some rudimentary knowledge of the human energy field and sacred geometry is essential. these are the gateways of manipulation, in the sense that fire can be manipulated to heat our homes or burn down our neighbor's. by tru3

I like your analogy. And we can use our thoughts to create and heal us or let them continue to scare ourselves and continue to render ourselves timid little sheep, lost in the wilderness. Sandra said on the page link above that, "In shamanic cultures it is understood that there is a difference between expressing anger and sending anger." Too right.

"God is a product of the creative imagination and God is that imagination taken flight," Nick Cave.

With all the soul loss we experience, no wonder so many of us are searching. Do I need to search? Or merely call my soul back, knowing that I may be fragmented but I am always connected to the fragments through the web of life? So there is nothing 'out there' for me, it is all inside. I make the statement: I remember myself and I keep the memory with concentration, focus and intent in everything that I do. The memory then becomes now. A wholeness, oneness without interference from the predators who I created to begin with. Retrieving my soul, retrieves my mind from the predators. Soul and mind becomes one, complete, and are in unison with each other.

ps - adramelech, which Castaneda book did you quote from? I'd like to read it.

rastamasta

15-03-2007, 08:23 AM

With all the soul loss we experience, no wonder so many of us are searching. Do I need to search?

Nope, if you went to see a Shaman They would go into the altered state and find your soul parts and bring them back for you.

Or merely call my soul back, knowing that I may be fragmented but I am always connected to the fragments through the web of life?

To call them back you would have to be in the altered state. Which is what people like Bill Baldwin are doing when they are doing SRT/hypnotherapy? You are in the altered state and they call back your soul fragments for you.

So there is nothing 'out there' for me, it is all inside.

Yeah but you need to access your subconscious mind to go “out there”. If you get me?

A wholeness, oneness without interference from the predators who I created to begin with.

Nope, I wish it were that simple. That’s like saying you walk through a jungle all day, every day and you will NEVER be attacked by lions, snakes cheetah’s etc

Retrieving my soul, retrieves my mind from the predators.

Nope, just your soul fragments that have been returned to you. The Predators will still be out there or in here. You have to get rid of the predators first. Then get your soul fragments back.

ps - adramelech, which Castaneda book did you quote from? I'd like to read it.

According to this website

From The Active Side of Infinity
By Carlos Castaneda
HarperCollins Publishers; 1998
From the Chapter entitled Mud Shadows; Pages 218-227

http://www.harmonymindbodyspirit.com/archives/predator.shtml

here's some books about Spirit Releasment Therapy

Healing Lost Souls By William J Baldwin

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1571743669/ref=pd_sim_b_dp_1/202-0143147-8607813

Entity Possession by Samuel Sagan

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Entity-Possession-Freeing-Negative-Influences/dp/0892816120/ref=pd_sim_b_1/203-4283707-3661550

The Unquiet Dead by Edith Fiore

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Unquiet-Dead-Psychologist-Treats-Possession/dp/0345460871/ref=pd_sim_b_2/203-4283707-3661550

Freeing the Captives Freeing the Captives by Louise Ireland-Frey

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Freeing-Captives-Emerging-Treating-Attachment/dp/1571741364/ref=pd_sim_b_3/203-4283707-3661550

Remarkable Healings by Shakuntala Modi

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Remarkable-Healings-Psychiatrist-Discovers-Unsuspected/dp/1571740791/ref=pd_sim_b_4/203-4283707-3661550

Dancing with the Devil: Survival for Healers and Therapists by David Ashworth

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dancing-Devil-Survival-Healers-Therapists/dp/1902733037/ref=pd_sim_b_5/203-4283707-3661550

And the Piece de resistance {if you only buy one book about SRT then make this the one.}

Spirit Releasement Therapy: A Technique Manual by William J. Baldwin

http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Releasement-Therapy-Technique-Manual/dp/092991516X

i am all i am

15-03-2007, 08:39 AM

G'day Rastamasta,

When I read your post, I was reminded of an experience that I had. I was following a thought that I had about multiple existence, that is, each incarnation being simultaneously (in the moment of NOW) experienced by soul and bringing those parts together here and now in this incarnation. I started to get 'jolts' of energy that snapped my head forward, cracking my neck, after I 'called' each part into this moment. I was with a friend at the time and I was 'laughing my head off' (it actually felt fantastic). I ended up being 'thrown', or picked up, backwards across the room about 6-8 feet. I landed on a bed base that we were using as a lounge and crashed into the wall without feeling any pain, the opposite was the case. I felt energised and 'full', joyous, and laughed even more after this had happened. I'm not sure if it is the same as what you're talking about, but it was an amazing experience and led onto a lot of other things for me. Thought I'd share it and see what you think.

With LOVE.
_____________________________

WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IPRISON YOU.

rastamasta

15-03-2007, 08:54 AM

i am all i am

15-03-2007, 09:15 AM

I don’t know if you would call that a soul retrieval. It sounds a bit extreme to me. From my experience of it, at least . When I had it done on me a couple of years ago by the SRT/hypnotherapist I’ve been to see a couple of times. I was in my subconscious and my therapist just called all my Soul Fragments back in. I felt whole and complete. I wasn’t bouncing off the walls or anything, like you described.

Thanks for your reply.

For me, it wasn't really extreme. None of it was painful. I felt energised, powerful and as you said of your own experience, complete. I am sensitive to energies, and it felt like an inrushing of 'myself' (the soul or conciousness that I truly am), like I was coming into the physical (this is pretty hard to describe in words). Anyway, thanks again for your reply.

With LOVE.
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WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

Anders Lindman

15-03-2007, 01:00 PM

Now, that's scary! Are these really accurate figures?

I found this:

"In recent years, there has been a growing realization that there are many psychopaths who successfully avoid trouble with the law, and estimates of the percentage of psychopaths in the population (formerly thought to be about 3%, based on studies of prisoners) have been revised upward."

From: http://www.gordonbanks.com/gordon/pubs/kubricks.html

"...Hare estimates that 1 percent of the population -- 300,000 people in Canada -- are psychopaths....."

http://www.whale.to/b/psychopathy_q.html

The percentage probably depends on the definition of a psychopath.

When looking at people's behavior in society we see that psychopathic traits are seldom visible. This means that psychopaths know that certain behaviors are not accepted in society. It also means that most psychopaths will behave reasonable decently in society. So probably psychopaths (both men and women) are not really dangerous or evil except the most extreme ones.

tru3

15-03-2007, 01:09 PM

With all the soul loss we experience, no wonder so many of us are searching. Do I need to search? Or merely call my soul back, knowing that I may be fragmented but I am always connected to the fragments through the web of life? So there is nothing 'out there' for me, it is all inside. I make the statement: I remember myself and I keep the memory with concentration, focus and intent in everything that I do. The memory then becomes now. A wholeness, oneness without interference from the predators who I created to begin with. Retrieving my soul, retrieves my mind from the predators. Soul and mind becomes one, complete, and are in unison with each other.

brilliant, mate! :)

it is about retreival. what is Real and permanent is never lost, and can never be "found", imo. if the universe is truly holographic, all "parts" contain the whole. in my experience nothing is ever lost (where would it go?), just forgotten or covered up with "goo".

The Soul Recognition Experience
Experiencing Soul Recognition opens us to the voice of our soul. It lets us see and feel that which we truly are in the greatest sense. Since every action in our lives is connected to all other actions, the very fact that you are reading these words creates a yearning for this knowing within you. This is a desire that we all share. It is the longing for that which many of us call “home”.

The Soul Recognition process is unique to each individual. The recognition time and the form it takes vary for each participant. Through this exceptional process, each person becomes aware of his or her expression on earth. This is the essence of the soul. It is joy unconfined by belief systems or earthly conditioning. It is heavenly patterning on earth.

http://www.soulsupportsystems.org/page/831243

this woman is wonderful! i participated in one of her workshops. it was a profound experience. my wife went twice; the second time she had bell's palsy, which is a mild paralysis usually experienced in the face. within ten days, it had disappeared! her doctor was amazed, because bell's palsy can take months, even several years, to dissipate (its physical agent is a virus).

well done!

tru3

15-03-2007, 01:26 PM

i am all i am

15-03-2007, 01:40 PM

that sounds like a kundalini experience to me. when we become re-connected to these frozen "parts" of ourself, the entire energy system of the body shifts to accomodate. whatever triggered it must have been a profound repatterning event for you.

i would be interested in hearing what you describe the situation that led up to this event. there's a clue there for all of us, imv.

It's a bit of a story. Instead of taking this off topic, I'll PM you. If you think there's something beneficial to it after I tell you we could start a thread to discuss it on the forum.

With LOVE.
_______________________________

WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

Anders Lindman

15-03-2007, 02:23 PM

So probably psychopaths (both men and women) are not really dangerous or evil except the most extreme ones.

An not only that. The view of the situation reeks of old-school victimhood PATHETIC mentality. The stupid idea that people are victims of genes and heredity and social programming and that NOTHING CAN BE DONE TO ALTER the situation. As Bruce Lipton has pointed out again and again, that's a false view!!!

The moronic mentality goes something like this: "She is a psychopath and will remain so, because there's nothing that can change that cause we are VICTIMS" See? :mad: :mad: :mad:

number 6

16-03-2007, 01:28 AM

777 = 07 07 2005

7th July 2005 was the day of the London bombings.

adramelech

17-03-2007, 01:42 AM

Now, that's scary! Are these really accurate figures?

Not exactly. The definition of a successful psychopath is one that can avoid detection and integrate themselves fully into society. Any figures attempting to define them are based on observation and extrapolation. The psychopathic umbrella also hangs over several groups, both genetic psychopaths and learned psychopaths, as well as those who fall under the influence of them.

If you consider genetic psychopaths the "true" predator (and in my opinion, that is a fair statement), only 2-6% of the population falls under that. These people are generally found at the top of the control pyramid.

tru3

17-03-2007, 02:39 AM

From The Active Side of Infinity
By Carlos Castaneda
HarperCollins Publishers; 1998
From the Chapter entitled Mud Shadows; Pages 218-227

thanks for the links, rastamasta. juicy stuff! :)

adramelech

17-03-2007, 02:44 AM

Hmm.. thanks for the lizard compilation... now I've got a handy reference.

Two things jumped out at me;
1) Don juan said we have the reppie mind
2) the montalk hyperdimensional predators milk our energy but only because we allow them through our ignorance of their existence and methods.

So... therefore we are in control. Our mind is linked to the grand poobah lizard mind, thus if we engage in higher frequency behaviour, consciously and with all our intent and purpose, then we will rreprogram the master system.

And... if the hyperdimensionals can't do anything against our will (which is how I interpret it from the first two paragraphs of that section) then it is simply our ignorance that is allowing this feeding to take place.

In some ways, it is true that the prey in a predator-prey relationship has relatively as much control as the predator. They can move, change, hide, run and fight just as a predator can stalk, feed and kill. In a practical sense, we have as much control over our predators as the gazelle has over the lion.

However, the relationship between predator and prey in nature is a normal part of the world. Our predator is not. We have been tricked and manipulated into the role of prey, we are fooled into believing that this is "our place" when it is not. We believe we are the "gazelle" because of psychological and genetic trauma that must be overcome.

When Don Juan said that the predators gave us their mind, he was referring to this manipulation. Read Robert Hare's quote at the end of my post - they are both talking about the same thing. We are living in a "camouflage" society where the traits of the predators are deemed supreme and desirable. Therefore, the predators are made to appear superior and we their servants and prey. Our entire false civilization is built on this principle and has been manipulated as such since the earliest hybrid/psychopathic "kings" and "priests".

Here's an excerpt from the X-Files episode "Talitha Cumi" which I feel illuminates many points and ideas expressed in my original post at a more human level. It is an adaptation of the "Legend of the Grand Inquisitor" from The Brothers Karamazov. Jeremiah Smith is a shapeshifting alien rebelling against the race and trying to save humanity. Cigarette Smoking Man represents the human psychopathic shadow government. Throughout the conversation, Jeremiah Smith shapeshifts into the form of people whom CSM has murdered. He shows no reaction.

Smoking Man: "This becomes a responsibility. The thing I am now called upon to put right and put down. Certainly you expected nothing less."
Jeremiah Smith: "I'm not ashamed of my actions."
Smoking Man: "Ashamed? You're not allowed the luxury of human weakness and penitence. You're not allowed to put your indulgences ahead of the greater purpose."
Jeremiah Smith: "I no longer believe in the greater purpose."
Smoking Man: "Then your fate is just."
Jeremiah Smith: "My justice is not for you to mete out. You may have reason, you have no right. You have no means either."
Smoking Man: "You presume to dictate duty to me? Have you any idea what the cost of your actions is? What their effect might be? Who are you to give them hope?"
Jeremiah Smith: "What do you give them?"
Smoking Man: "We give them happiness and they give us authority."
Jeremiah Smith: "The authority to take away their freedom under guise of democracy."
Smoking Man: "Men can never be free, because they're weak, corrupt, worthless and restless. The people believe in authority. They've grown tired of waiting for miracle and mystery. Science is their religion. No greater explanation exists for them. They must never believe any differently if the project is to go forward."
Jeremiah Smith: "At what cost to them?"
Smoking Man: "The question is irrelevant, and the outcome inevitable. The date is set."
[Jeremiah Smith changes to look like Deep Throat]
Deep Throat: "At what cost to them for your own selfish benefit? How many must die at your hand to preserve your stake in the project?"
Smoking Man: "I'm not impressed by your miracles or moved by your trickery. Your justice will be meted out."
Deep Throat: "By whom this time? And by what tool?"
Smoking Man: "By those who possess the tool of your destruction."

Smoking Man: "It's only a matter of time now."
Jeremiah Smith: "You put me in a cage within a cage. Why are you so afraid of me?"
Smoking Man: "I'm not."
Jeremiah Smith: "Yes you are. You live in fear. That's your whole life."
Smoking Man: "You don't know anything about me."
Jeremiah Smith: "I know everything about you. You think the miracles I perform are the extent of my power."
Smoking Man: "You think you're god. You're a drone, a catalogue, chattel."
Jeremiah Smith: "What you're afraid of is... they'll believe I am god."
Smoking Man: "Well that doesn't matter. Most of them have ceased to believe in god."
Jeremiah Smith: "Why?"
Smoking Man: "Because god presents them with no miracles to earn their faith."
Jeremiah Smith: "You think when man ceases to believe in miracles he rejects god?"
Smoking Man: "Of course."
Jeremiah Smith: "You rule over them in god's name."
Smoking Man: "They don't believe in him, but they still fear him. They're afraid not to because they're afraid of freedom."
Jeremiah Smith: "And you give them happiness."
Smoking Man: "We appease their conscience. Anyone who can appease a man's conscience can take his freedom away from him."
[Jeremiah Smith changes to look like William Mulder]
William Mulder: "And if you can't appease their conscience you kill them. But you can't kill them all. You can't kill their love. Which is what makes them who they are. Makes them better than us. Better than you."
Smoking Man: "You talk. I'm not one of you."
William Mulder: "No. All you want is to be part of it. Is to be one of the commandants when the process begins."

Anders Lindman

17-03-2007, 06:28 AM

Not exactly. The definition of a successful psychopath is one that can avoid detection and integrate themselves fully into society. Any figures attempting to define them are based on observation and extrapolation. The psychopathic umbrella also hangs over several groups, both genetic psychopaths and learned psychopaths, as well as those who fall under the influence of them.

If you consider genetic psychopaths the "true" predator (and in my opinion, that is a fair statement), only 2-6% of the population falls under that. These people are generally found at the top of the control pyramid.

Ok. Another idea that came to my mind is that it requires effort to constantly play a role to avoid detection. As the world gets more and more complicated, and people learning about this, it will require more and more effort for psychopaths to play their roles convincingly. This will create an incentive for psychopaths to change their behavior.

A simple example of this is the management of lies. When I tell a lie, then I have to remember the lie so that I don't contradict myself in the future, and remembering a lie is an additional burden. And very soon, I will have to tell another lie in order to protect the first lie so that I'm not caught contradicting myself. And then I need yet another lie to protect the second lie, and so on. This creates a whole web of lies that becomes increasingly burdensome to hold "waterproof" and much of my energy will go into the management of lies.

tru3

17-03-2007, 06:30 AM

When Don Juan said that the predators gave us their mind, he was referring to this manipulation. Read Robert Hare's quote at the end of my post - they are both talking about the same thing. We are living in a "camouflage" society where the traits of the predators are deemed supreme and desirable. Therefore, the predators are made to appear superior and we their servants and prey. Our entire false civilization is built on this principle and has been manipulated as such since the earliest hybrid/psychopathic "kings" and "priests".

donald trump's popular on tv because, despite the bad hair, many americans want to be him. they want to be oprah. they want to be dale earnhart jr. and go out in a fiery ball of flame at the top of their game. it's a death wish. anybody watch the super bowl this year? i didn't, but i heard about it. here's the crown jewel ceremony of america's premier sporting event:

http://www.kcci.com/2007/0207/10953772_240X180.jpg

not as much fun as janet jackson's boobie, i must say.

for all the "pro-life" rhetoric in this country, people are scared of the living energy that we are. they obsess over celebrity, but never marvel at themselves. authenticity becomes a curious notion only for eccentric artists and musicians, and so it is commoditized and consumed as is all else.

it's all about functional fit these days: come take your meds, get on the team and come on in for the big win! i saw a special on hbo about addiction; they proceeded to take what imv is a spiritual dis-ease and turn it into a brain malfunction treatable by pharmas. more meds, please! i want some more, sir!

It takes an enormous amount of energy to “receive” our higher self. It is Nature that calls us toward awakening. It is Nature that initiates us. It is Nature that eases the burden of awakening. It is Nature that allows our awakening to be successful. And it is Nature that gives us the power to extend our awakening out into the world. It takes an enormous amount of oxygen to birth ourselves, so exercise and breathe in Nature every day. The more you do so, the more Nature will be your ally. We want Nature to work for us, not against us, thus we must comply with Nature’s dictates. - ken wilber

ho1ogram

17-03-2007, 05:44 PM

How does one vanquish the predator?

rastamasta

17-03-2007, 05:55 PM

How does one vanquish the predator?

One option is Spirit Releasment Therapy

here's some books

Healing Lost Souls By William J Baldwin

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/...143147-8607813

Entity Possession by Samuel Sagan

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Entity-Posse...283707-3661550

The Unquiet Dead by Edith Fiore

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Unquiet-Dead...283707-3661550

Freeing the Captives by Louise Ireland-Frey

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Freeing-Capt...283707-3661550

Remarkable Healings by Shakuntala Modi

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Remarkable-H...283707-3661550

Dancing with the Devil: Survival for Healers and Therapists by David Ashworth

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Dancing-Devi...283707-3661550

And the Piece de resistance {if you only buy one book about SRT then make this the one.}

Spirit Releasement Therapy: A Technique Manual by William J. Baldwin

http://www.amazon.com/Spirit-Release.../dp/092991516X

i am all i am

17-03-2007, 05:56 PM

How does one vanquish the predator?

G'day Ho1ogram,

The simple answer is to not be the prey. Allow the predator to be the predator, merely remove all thoughts, words and actions that declare yourself to be the prey. The predator then moves on to find another to prey upon.

With LOVE.
___________________________________

WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

tinmenace

17-03-2007, 06:01 PM

The simple answer is to not be the prey. Allow the predator to be the predator, merely remove all thoughts, words and actions that declare yourself to be the prey. The predator then moves on to find another to prey upon.

Bravo!

ho1ogram

17-03-2007, 06:06 PM

I knew I should have elaborated.

Rasta - I assume you have used SRT. I would be worried about someone tampering with my psyche. Who did it for you and how do you prevent them from returning? (the spirits that is)

i am all i am - throw us a bone will ya? :) ie; got a daily tecnique I could use to strengthen my spirit? I lack focus and discipline, mostly discipline.

rastamasta

18-03-2007, 01:12 AM

I knew I should have elaborated.
Rasta - I assume you have used SRT.

I’ve had it done on me twice a couple of years ago. Now I’m on my own path to learning the techniques to do it for others.

I would be worried about someone tampering with my psyche.

Some misconceptions about hypnotherapy.

The hypnotherapist cannot take away your free will. You have to be a willing participant. If you disagree with anything they say or do you will, like in waking consciousness reject it.

The “Predators” call them Demons, Reptiles or whatever label you want to put on them. The Politicians & Priests {of ALL religions} have done their best to take way our free will, over the millennia, but so far they have all failed.

A Trance is a perfectly natural state of mind you go into them every day, most of the time without realising. If you have ever read a book or watched a film then wondered where the time has gone, then you have been going into and out or a trance while you where reading the book or watching the film.

Here’s some more info.

http://www.hypnotherapyassociates.co.uk/what_is_hypnosis.html

how do you prevent them from returning? (the spirits that is)

A combination of Meditation and Visualisation, but having said that the most powerful entities’ would just be at best amused, or at worst seriously pissed off by you trying to visualise a bubble of light.

Here’s some more off William Baldwin’s Web site.

http://www.spiritreleasement.org/spiritual%20protection.htm

i am all i am

18-03-2007, 07:01 PM

I knew I should have elaborated.

i am all i am - throw us a bone will ya? :) ie; got a daily tecnique I could use to strengthen my spirit? I lack focus and discipline, mostly discipline.

G'day Ho1ogram,

Two books for you brother.

Qigong for health and vitality - Michael Tse.

Being Happy - Andrew Matthews.

The chi (qi) breathing technique can be done anywhere, anytime. The benefits are way too many to list off, but please believe me, it's of immense benefit. The other exercises are for specific purposes and are interdependant of each other. Michael Tse was taught Wing Chun Kung Fu by Grand Master Yip Man, the same person that taught Bruce Lee. Another of his students is in Melbourne, Grand Master William Chung, who is in the guiness book of world records for 8.3 punches in a second. He has schools throughout Victoria, and I would recommend Wing Chun as a great martial art system to develop both focus and discipline.

Being Happy is a book that will explain all of the psychological mumbo-jumbo in laymans terms for easy understanding and application within your life. Andrew Matthews is an Aussie that was originally a cartoonist. Great guy. He personally travelled the world promoting his book, without any big marketing company, and made it an international best seller, with over 1 million copies sold. I know of businessmen (millionaires) that use the book on a daily basis to help run their business.

With LOVE.
_________________________________

WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

tinmenace

18-03-2007, 07:32 PM

Dude, there's an echo!

:D

anoninnyc

19-03-2007, 10:58 AM

G'day Ho1ogram,

The simple answer is to not be the prey. Allow the predator to be the predator, merely remove all thoughts, words and actions that declare yourself to be the prey. The predator then moves on to find another to prey upon.

With LOVE.
___________________________________

WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

could you be more specific please?

tru3

19-03-2007, 02:27 PM

I’ve had it done on me twice a couple of years ago. Now I’m on my own path to learning the techniques to do it for others.

Some misconceptions about hypnotherapy.

The hypnotherapist cannot take away your free will. You have to be a willing participant. If you disagree with anything they say or do you will, like in waking consciousness reject it.

The “Predators” call them Demons, Reptiles or whatever label you want to put on them. The Politicians & Priests {of ALL religions} have done their best to take way our free will, over the millennia, but so far they have all failed.

A Trance is a perfectly natural state of mind you go into them every day, most of the time without realising. If you have ever read a book or watched a film then wondered where the time has gone, then you have been going into and out or a trance while you where reading the book or watching the film.

Here’s some more info.

http://www.hypnotherapyassociates.co.uk/what_is_hypnosis.html

A combination of Meditation and Visualisation, but having said that the most powerful entities’ would just be at best amused, or at worst seriously pissed off by you trying to visualise a bubble of light.

Here’s some more off William Baldwin’s Web site.

http://www.spiritreleasement.org/spiritual%20protection.htm

i like this protection web page. hey e.p., if you're out there, perk up! :D

If there could be one governing rule for masterful spiritual behavior, it would be "Never meet force with force." Force is not the almighty power of the universe. flow is. the ultimate spiritual "powers" are manifest in us when we are in Flow, not when we have reduced ourselves to forceful, fearful attempts to control and dominate. The most powerful warrior is one who never has to draw the sword. If we would be free of the fear that makes us easy prey to what is opportunistic and harmful, then we must know we are more than just human. We must learn to be response-able rather than merely react-able. Then threat is experienced differently. When we learn that the "real" part of us cannot be threatened, and accept that the "unreal" part can only exist temporarily, we are no longer at the mercy of perceived menace. Thus invulnerability is not dependent upon conditions; body, mind, soul and spirit live in the peace that surpasses circumstances and understanding.

neutron flux

20-03-2007, 01:42 PM

How does one vanquish the predator?

Through self-observation.

castaneda wrote:

"The grand trick of those sorcerers of ancient times, was to burden the flyers' mind with discipline. They found out that if they taxed the flyers' mind with inner silence, the foreign installation would flee, giving to any one of the practitioners involved in this maneuver the total certainty of the mind's foreign origin. The foreign installation comes back, I assure you, but not as strong, and a process begins in which the fleeing of the flyers' mind becomes routine, until one day it flees permanently. A sad day indeed! That's the day when you have to rely on your own devices, which are nearly zero. There's no one to tell you what to do. There's no mind of foreign origin to dictate the imbecilities you're accustomed to. "My teacher, the nagual Julian, used to warn all his disciples," don Juan continued, "that this was the toughest day in a sorcerer's life, for the real mind that belongs to us, the sum total of our experience, after a lifetime of domination has been rendered shy, insecure, and shifty. Personally, I would say that the real battle of sorcerers begins at that moment. The rest is merely preparation." "The flyers' mind flees forever," he said, "when a sorcerer succeeds in grabbing on to the vibrating force that holds us together as a conglomerate of energy fields. If a sorcerer maintains that pressure long enough, the flyers' mind flees in defeat. And that's exactly what you are going to do: hold on to the energy that binds you together."

Gurdjieff's 'organ kundabuffer' approaches the theme from another angle. There, the organ is forcibly installed into man in order to generally anesthetize him against reality and see the insignificant as great and the great as insignificant.

In order not to be food, one needs to change internally.Castaneda calls this discipline, impeccability, being a warrior fighting to be free. Gurdjieff calls this objective reason, Impartiality, acquiring being and objective conscience and being as a man ought to be.

Back to psychopathy, here's some articles to add (sorry if they've been posted before):

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/cleckley-mos.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/cleckley-mos-2.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/political_ponerology_lobaczewski.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/innerpsycho.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/sanity_1.PdF

tru3

20-03-2007, 03:05 PM

Through self-observation.

castaneda wrote:

"The grand trick of those sorcerers of ancient times, was to burden the flyers' mind with discipline. They found out that if they taxed the flyers' mind with inner silence, the foreign installation would flee, giving to any one of the practitioners involved in this maneuver the total certainty of the mind's foreign origin. The foreign installation comes back, I assure you, but not as strong, and a process begins in which the fleeing of the flyers' mind becomes routine, until one day it flees permanently. A sad day indeed! That's the day when you have to rely on your own devices, which are nearly zero. There's no one to tell you what to do. There's no mind of foreign origin to dictate the imbecilities you're accustomed to. "My teacher, the nagual Julian, used to warn all his disciples," don Juan continued, "that this was the toughest day in a sorcerer's life, for the real mind that belongs to us, the sum total of our experience, after a lifetime of domination has been rendered shy, insecure, and shifty. Personally, I would say that the real battle of sorcerers begins at that moment. The rest is merely preparation." "The flyers' mind flees forever," he said, "when a sorcerer succeeds in grabbing on to the vibrating force that holds us together as a conglomerate of energy fields. If a sorcerer maintains that pressure long enough, the flyers' mind flees in defeat. And that's exactly what you are going to do: hold on to the energy that binds you together."

Gurdjieff's 'organ kundabuffer' approaches the theme from another angle. There, the organ is forcibly installed into man in order to generally anesthetize him against reality and see the insignificant as great and the great as insignificant.

In order not to be food, one needs to change internally.Castaneda calls this discipline, impeccability, being a warrior fighting to be free. Gurdjieff calls this objective reason, Impartiality, acquiring being and objective conscience and being as a man ought to be.

Back to psychopathy, here's some articles to add (sorry if they've been posted before):

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/cleckley-mos.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/cleckley-mos-2.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/political_ponerology_lobaczewski.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/innerpsycho.htm

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/sanity_1.PdF

can i get a witness??? great post, my friend! i don't want to hijack the thread, but this is exciting stuff, to me. so forgive me if i seem to take this in another direction; bear with me.

i can't say i know anything at all about gurdjieff, but what casteneda describe is, to me, the essence of the path of nonduality, at least my experience of it. i admit the possibility of being subject to the "imbecilities" of projection, lol. but this notion of being burdened, purposefully and methodically, really resonates in my personal experience.

i was pm'ing a member a while back, and he expressed his concern to me about (i'm paraphrasing here) about all the different ways to be "0wn3d". and there are; the whole universe is spun out and rigged as a used car lot, imho.

ever wonder about who's a reppie, or "under the influence"?

The emotional poverty, the complete lack of strong or tragic feeling universally found in all the psychopaths personally observed, has caused me considerable bewilderment in connection with frequent references in the literature to the powerful instinctual drives and passions said to be manifested in such people.

http://www.cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/cleckley-mos.htm

ye shall know them by their fruits.

This is what wilhelm reich meant by "the emotional plague". the predator cuts us off from the life force and "shunts" in the mental "installation". (have i got the general gist, nuetron flux?). over a century and a half (about the civil war, in my mind), americans have been the guinea pigs of the illuminati. it makes sense; far fewer variables, more of a "clean slate" to work with, lots of different cultures and belief systems in the "melting pot" to test against.

reich, frued, jung, and georg groddeck all describe the psychological and mental/emotional conditions needed to create fascism. they simply witnessed the dysfunction of the german family, culture and society of the days leading up to naziism.

and, the sad news to me is that depsite all the carnage of wwii, my feeling is that it was just the final "dress rehearsal" for what is to come-- in "their" plans.

July 30, 2003: KAH - The subject of the extremely narrow point of view of most Americans as opposed to the majority of other peoples in the world came up in a conversation the other day. The people having the conversation were, as it happens, mostly American. One of them commented that Americans had been "programmed" to their point of view by mass media propaganda for a very long time and that it was simply a very normal part of American life and basically, always had been. She concluded, "Whoever denies it is either ignorant or has an agenda."

That may be so. It may be true that the "pied pipers" of denial have an agenda. But what, then, does one say or do about the ignorance of the vast majority of Americans? Why and how is it that the trap of Fascism is closing on them before their very eyes and no matter how many voices - the number is increasing every day - are raised to point out this danger, they simply do not seem to get it?

The conversation continued with a comment from another individual suggesting that one must take into account how effective the "official culture" actually is in the US. It isn't just a question of ignorance, but a question of the long-term thoroughness of the propagandizing that began in the early days of the last century. It was proposed that this propaganda is so complete that not only are most people in the US ignorant of what is taking place on the US political scene, and in the world as a direct result of US policy, they are ignorant of the fact that they are ignorant. They have been inculcated with the view that their view is the only "right" one" and, consequently, they really "don't know any better". In short: "What do you do if you don't know that you don't know something?"...

It is as though with some people - those who most avidly embrace the "we are right" view - have minds that are closed from the very get-go, and they are entirely incapable of opening them, even just a crack. There is no curiosity in them. There are no questions in their minds. There are no "what ifs?" or "maybes"....

In my opinion, (KAH), all of us who were raised in the US have been duped via this Official Culture mind control imposed through the educational system and the mass media. But there are some of us who seem to have the ability to question, to wonder, to open our minds to other possibilities - even if they seem far-fetched. And invariably, this opening of the mind to other views has been enriching and rewarding on many levels, not the least of which is a humanitarian view of all peoples and cultures....

Is the difference one that exists between people who are willing to face the "terror of the situation" and those who simply cannot live in the state of tension produced by having to make moral decisions themselves?

Or, is there something deeper here? If so, what is it? And whatever it is, why is it so "active" in the present day and time? What is the "fog" that surrounds America and the minds of its people?

In the past, I have encountered many people who I considered to be open-minded, but ultimately discovered that they are not so when they absolutely refuse to even admit the possibility of what is so obvious to so many intelligent and compassionate people....Again, we return to the problem: what is WRONG with Americans?

Some individuals, when faced with certain facts about their own ignorance, deny vehemently that they ARE ignorant and resort to platitudes and cliches even including that old saw about the difference between "book learning" and "common sense." Others, when confronted with their own ignorance, immediately set about rectifying it no matter how painful it might be.

But there are so many Americans who - when faced with similar situations, faced with their own ignorance - deny it aggressively. And generally, the "last word" for them is: "Oh, he/she doesn't know what the hell they are talking about! They're 'foreigners'." And that's the key: "foreigners." ...

They don't even realize that "Survivor" is programming them to the very attitudes that are being displayed by their leaders - normalizing it, so to say - and at the present moment these attitude are being manifested in their own lives in a direct and terrifying way. For many in the US, their future is that there won't be any more Super Bowls, and the SUV certainly doesn't get enough gas mileage to get them far enough away from the terror that will confront them when they are "voted off the island" in the global game of "Survivor."

http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/official_culture.htm

thanks again, nuetron flux. welcome to the forum. :)

tru3

21-03-2007, 01:12 AM

Souled psychopaths are either environmentally programmed to act against their own conscience, or else have made the consistent choice to behave in a narcissistic and predatory manner. Those who are programmed have chance for recovery, while the attempt to change those who choose psychopathy only reinforces their behavior. Souled psychopaths feel love and hate, but only love for self and hate for others.

if i could boil everything down to a single term describing the actual mechanics of this pathology, my term would be "entrainment". entrainment is a property of energetic waves.
the process is multidimensional, quite certainly holographic. when a room full of clocks begin to tick at the same time (weird feeling, isn't it??), that's entrainment. when a close group of women begin menstruating together, that's entrainment. i believe it is a term used in the occult, but i'm not sure. anybody? bueller? bueller? :confused:

Resonant entrainment of oscillating systems

Resonant entrainment of oscillating systems is a well-understood principle within the physical sciences. If a tuning fork designed to produce a frequency of 440 Hz is struck (causing it to oscillate) and then brought into the vicinity of another 440 Hz tuning fork, the second tuning fork will begin to oscillate. The first tuning fork is said to have entrained the second or caused it to resonate. The physics of entrainment apply to biosystems as well. Of interest here are the electromagnetic brain waves. The electrochemical activity of the brain results in the production of electromagnetic wave forms which can be objectively measured with sensitive equipment. Brain waves change frequencies based on neural activity within the brain. Because neural activity is electrochemical, brain function can be modified through the introduction of specific chemicals (drugs), by altering the brain’s electromagnetic environment through induction, or through resonant entrainment techniques.

http://www.web-us.com/thescience.htm

a combination of low dosage toxins of all frequencies are in the environment. maybe all these toxins are just like salt and pepper for us; it takes away that "gamey taste".

it's kind of like nitric acid, which is nasty, and glycerine, which is harmless. put the two together, and you've got a mess! :(

environmental toxicity is a much greater threat than global warming!!!!:(

i've been thinking about going to raw foods, myself. anybody else?

while i'm thinking about it, is all this fuss about global warming to distract us from the slaughter occuring right now in africa? what an abomination. niger alone is an ecological, economic and sociopolitcal nightmare; i give, oh , five years. do the math. africa is the "sleeping giant", not america anymore.

and still the calls for help go unheeded.

bluestar

29-03-2007, 04:48 AM

The Brothers of Shadow

After the fall of Atlantis some of the more powerful sorcerers of darkness, sometimes known as the brothers of shadow, survived and scattered themselves throughout the planet. These sorcerers did this by binding themselves to certain places of power in order to recuperate their energies and preserve themselves.

Such power sites may in the past have been places of human sacrifice, magic and atrocity, many of which are still hidden and preserved today by the dark energies that protect them. From these points and over time since, these sorcerers began setting up their various lineages throughout the world. Each lineage itself being a tentacle for cosmic evil in its search for the recruitment of human beings on the planet.

Initiation into the dark brotherhood

These "brotherhoods" rely on deception and often quite ghastly induction methods to recruit candidates into their various lineages and collective, miscreant energies.

To understand the process of their initiation methodology we are able, with insight, to see how cosmic evil is corrupting so many beings today globally.

The full intricacies of candidate selection and initiation are not known to this writer, who is sharing from relatively flawed personal experience and information. However, one can assume that over time each lineage has cultivated its own adaptation of induction, but primarily the methodology is basically the same.

Potential recruits will be self-seeking beings wanting to experience paranormal and occult experience, usually with some motivating undertone of self-empowerment, personal happiness, personal enlightenment, etc., and such self seeking is also demonstrated by those who speak about love and service as their goal.

The more evidently darker lineages, however, seek strong-willed candidates who can withstand the terrors, dangers and tensions of induction. After choosing a candidate, one of the brothers, (in one such lineage calling himself a ‘Brujo), makes contact either personally in the physical world and/or psychically.

Often using a candidate’s intrigue against himself the sorcerer, remaining quite aloof and distant, can psychically seduce the candidate to pursue him. Subtly enticing the candidate with promises of power and knowledge, the candidate is left to pursue their offering, motivated by the candidate’s self-will, thus becoming an aspirant to the sorcerer’s cause. They then begin to instruct the candidate, presenting a "path" using such phrases a "warriorship" and "the way", now initiating the aspirant into becoming a "seeker" of knowledge and power.

To compliment this they encourage their students with words of distorted wisdom, including utterances of "love and light", which are somewhat ungraspable by the student, enticing the student to mentally strain and reach for such aloof concepts, drawing them further into personal desire and the resulting vulnerability to illusion, deception and manipulation.

Then over a period of sometimes years they withdraw their students somewhat from society and some teachers then begin to acquaint them with various psychotropic concoctions using bases such a peyote or daytura (also known as devils weed).

In such induced states of mental and psychic displacement, the powers of darkness are able to occultly manipulate the consciousness of their apprentices and induce states of illusion, producing paranormal experiences. Having withdrawn their candidates from society, which enables greater control, they then work through paranoia and uncertainty to cultivate fear and confusion.

Throughout this relationship the teacher seduces his student to believe that to become a man of power he must first learn to "see". This "seeing" is an abstract concept and a "reward" that works like a carrot dangling in front of a donkey to make it keep walking.

He also relates to the student that "seeing" is only accomplished by strict obedience to "the way", which is but a psychological constriction and directive. He tells the student that it is a way fraught with danger but subtly assures him that, as a teacher, he is able to give safe passage.

Using such terms as "warrior", "seeker" and "the way" the aspirant is lured, through self deception, to believe that he is going about some noble cause, hence feeding his ego, giving him great determination through self-will to battle on.

The student is given a series of complimentary exercises and body stances in which the shadow forces can then transmit their peculiar energies to the recipient that provide the teacher-sorcerer with even greater access and control.

Together with the continual and sporadic use of their psychotropic concoctions these exercises are used to induce extreme psychological states, creating such mental distortion and confusion to facilitate the brothers of shadow to directly implant seeds of fear and produce severe hallucinogenic experiences.

Some examples of such exercises are:

*Running through the jungle blindfolded, while being pursued by an unknown evil entity.

*Staring at a shadow fixedly until they can see.

*Being alone in a dark room and walking or rolling around the floor until a "place of power" is found.

The aspirant who is inspired through his dedication to "warriorship" often forces himself to stand and stare for days, to the brink of exhaustion. Then, when he is in such a state of psychological turmoil that he is hallucinating or has collapsed, in walks the teacher and rewards him with affirmations such as: "Now you are beginning to see" or "you’ve found your place of power!"

Now seeing that his student is willing to go to such extremes and is quite under his influence, the sorcerer then introduces the student to another "Brujo" in which together they set upon further manipulation: one taking the role of guide and teacher, the other playing upon the students terror and exhaustion.

During a process of psychic manipulation known only to them, they then proceed to work upon and slowly cleave the mind’s reasoning faculty from its creative side.

Such polarity and separation rends the students protective, psychic web and enables the forces of evil to directly infiltrate and take control.

This also enables the sorcerers’ complete access and then it is possible for them to directly implant certain psychic attributes in the consciousness of the student so that he may perform feats such as levitation, teleportation and the like.

Their student, now completely open and vulnerable to auric manipulation, can then readily have experiences such as astral traveling, remote viewing, even shape shifting (which brujos are renown for).

By forcing their students into such unnatural states, far from practical sanity, the sorcerers increase their personal power, power that has been fed through the development of psychic abilities over time through these dark lineage’s, often posing as light, and which include severe psychological abstraction.

From such states, aspirants and Brujos have gained a twisted insight into things, but really it is an "outsight", an inverted knowledge from which they are able to "see" humanity and the world from completely unnatural perspectives. Thus the term "seeing" is relative and is at the unimaginable cost of the spiritual, mental and psychic stability of the student. What the aspirant does not "see" is that they are slowly beginning a process of inverting their entire auric field and consciousness!

Slowly and over time they open themselves to foreign manipulation, grafting certain inimical implants by way of which they feed the unnatural energies that lay behind the various dark lineage’s, and unknown to them they are then in the perfidious grip and are participating in a hierarchy of intelligent evil.

As their consciousness dwells within such points of abstraction they are even able to see human and planetary energy fields in a perverted way, and over the courses of generations have, as recruited disciples, learned through tried and tested methods to slowly gain a twisted mastery of manipulation with regard to humanity. These beings are able to shut down humanity’s chakras, manipulate auric fields and leech off planetary energy grids.

The partial inversion of their auric field requires them to vampirise humankind for energy in order to sustain their personal life force. They are therefore coerced to become more parasitic in their career as they are led by their teachers into further abstraction requiring them to seek students themselves to secure their own sustenance and that of their group. In the earlier stages and unknown to them they have become agents of cosmic evil, which they have been (sometimes for millennia) assisting such evil in what on a grander scale is a plan for planetary induction.

What the student often does not know is that their teachers have not been recruiting individually and that the sorcerer usually has a group of students he has been working with simultaneously yet independently. Later the teacher-sorcerer brings together all his "successful" students so that they may collectively go through a series of group-initiations.

I have felt it necessary to release such information, though it is somewhat coarse and flawed. (Such lineages protect viciously their secrets).

Looking around the world today one can see some interesting parallels of such induction on a global scale, not only in the psychic and pseudo spiritual arena but also in politics, media, education, military, etc.

These lineages represent tentacles of cosmic evil, which are present and working within many worlds and dimensions, slowly infiltrating, manipulating and ultimately consuming them.

As the world today plunges into further abstraction and distortion, we can see that humanity- individually and collectively- has been seduced into aligning itself into such evil, as collectively it has been drawn into an involuted vortex of blindly active participation in its intelligence, while opening itself more and more to its miscreant energies and powers.

One can draw many parallels. For example, much- and even most- of the new age movement, through its self-seeking and ignorance, is unconsciously assisting the plan of the planetary takeover. As people collectively strive to gain self-empowerment and personal enlightenment, applying themselves to practices of self-cultivation, they are in fact essentially not so different from those misguided individuals who stand for days on end staring into shadows: the ultimate effects are the same.

The forces of darkness thoroughly understand the dualistic processes of humanity’s individual and collective mind, and they have worked assiduously for ages to subtly increase states of tension and planetary confusion, while inducing great struggles within dualistic polarity. This eventually rends open the protective, psychic web of mankind on earth, in which cosmic evil can then infiltrate directly and without resistance.

Over time and through its countless agents- unconscious or conscious- the plan of cosmic evil has developed and cultivated innumerable groups and sub-groups within human consciousness and activity to such a degree of abstraction that by way of their essentially self-serving intentions, that they are creating technologies, manipulating planetary energy fields and ultimately seeding their own self-destruction.

Humanity has thus been methodically withdraw from the greater Cosmos. Now many of these unfortunate beings have been individually and collectively exposed, implanted and grafted. They are now an integral part of cosmic evil. Serving this evil which is essentially instinctual, mechanical and utterly immoral.

In order to infiltrate whole planetary systems such as earth, evil uses human personalities produced by the planet as it rapes, steals and plunders their consciousness to further it own twisted plan, to feed its own consciousness and to gain its "outsight" so that it may proceed ultimately with its plan of planetary control, consumption and destruction.

thoth

29-03-2007, 05:23 AM

Whats even more interesting is the idea that the reptilians were put here for a purpose by higher beings! Yes, yes! They were put here to help speed up our evolutionary process, spiritually and in other ways. Remember, good CANNOT exist without evil, they are two side of the same coin. They don't exist without the other. This may just be a law in the this frequency, but not all others. Humans don't want to evolve, and furthermore, we cannot operate at our full potential until we are under immense stress and pressure. This may all seem like its hopeless and unorganized, but its really the implicate order and is working just like its supposed to. Trust me, this is supposed to be happening, all of it. Why else would the entities use symbolism to let us know what they are doing to prevent negative karma from coming back to them. Its how their Kabbalistic magic works, they always have to tell us so they cannot be liable. Us not knowing is really our own faults. We brain wash eachother in a domino effect that puts us all in a negative karmic situation, because we are all one.

ho1ogram

29-03-2007, 01:38 PM

Throughout this relationship the teacher seduces his student to believe that to become a man of power he must first learn to "see". This "seeing" is an abstract concept and a "reward" that works like a carrot dangling in front of a donkey to make it keep walking.

*Being alone in a dark room and walking or rolling around the floor until a "place of power" is found.

A lot of your post corresponds with Castaneda's initiation. I wonder if Don Juan is a 'Brother of the Shadows' or whether there was a corruption of the sorceror's ancient teachings, thus two paths, similar in methods but not outcomes, were produced.

Don Juan talked about the old sorcerors who traded their 'souls' or 'lives' for power and knowledge from the 'inorganic beings'.

Where is your post from, Bluestar? btw - it's best to post a link or cite your sources so Mr Icke doesn't get into any more legal trouble.

Thoth said:
Whats even more interesting is the idea that the reptilians were put here for a purpose by higher beings! Yes, yes! They were put here to help speed up our evolutionary process, spiritually and in other ways. Remember, good CANNOT exist without evil, they are two side of the same coin. They don't exist without the other. This may just be a law in the this frequency, but not all others.

Yeah, I can see that.

The more I learn and remember the more I can see the infinite nature of.. well, of infinity..lol..

Infinite possibility. I believe everything and I don't believe in anything. That seems to be the best way my mind can make sense of all that I know.

Also, I reckon the 'evil' or whatever can never be traced to an end source. I think it just keeps on going into infinity. The same with the love vibration. I reckon it just goes on infinitely. One can choose either path and neither path ends. You can choose 'love' or 'evil' at any time and swap back again if you wish. It's endless. a trick of the matrix is that people think there is an end at either path but there is not. REptillians are subordinate to another race/lower vibe creation, who are in turn subordinate to another lower vibrational entity, who are themselves subordinate to another... and so on.

Same with the love vibration..it just keeps on going. The love/evil duality is not a closed loop, it travells into infinity in either direction. And nobody is permanently stuck on either path. There is always a way to choose love over evil and vice versa.

Which explains (to me anyway) the fact that there is no past or future but just the ever changing present. There is only this moment. The past is gone, the future is not here, this moment is all that there is. And this moment is forever changing. Infinity itself is NOW. The always changing present.

bigus_dickus

29-03-2007, 09:58 PM

Infinite possibility. I believe everything and I don't believe in anything. That seems to be the best way my mind can make sense of all that I know.

yes, infinite possibility, because here is how i think it.

what is the lowest vibration? approximately zero.

what is the highest vibration? approximately infinite, which is, approximately zero.

highest vibration approximately equals lowest vibration.

zero is infinite and infinity is zero, it is nothing in particular.

all the same being, the universe. everything exists in the whole spectrum of dimensions and consciousness is a simple nothing that creates existence.

ho1ogram

30-03-2007, 03:59 PM

I like the way you think b d.

Your words sparked this:

-6 -5 -4 -3 -2 -1 0 +1 +2 +3 +4 +5 +6

If 0 represents us and the negative vibration is behind us and positive vibes in front... We are always the center of the universe. We are always the start. You can count forever in either direction. There is no last or final number. Infinite possibility. Infinite potential. Infinity right now. I have started a thread on it here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=22580#post22580

chewbacca

02-04-2007, 06:13 AM

if i could boil everything down to a single term describing the actual mechanics of this pathology, my term would be "entrainment". entrainment is a property of energetic waves.
the process is multidimensional, quite certainly holographic. when a room full of clocks begin to tick at the same time (weird feeling, isn't it??), that's entrainment. when a close group of women begin menstruating together, that's entrainment.

Val Valerian, in his Matrix books, the one's focused on the alien qustion anyhow, refers to it as "inculcation". Actually, it's the greys who call it that, according to some abductees. To my ears, coming from the greys, it is perfectly creepy, maniacal and on the ball, hehehe.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/inculcation

chewbacca

02-04-2007, 06:14 AM

Just popping by. I shall return to this thread later when I'm in the mood.

rastamasta

03-04-2007, 02:52 AM

Here's some stuff I've found about Shamanic Soul Extraction

Soul-extraction

Soul extraction involves the Shaman extracting psychic darts or chords that have intruded upon the soul or etheric body of the patient. This is sometimes an attack from someone who has attempted to harm, maim, or kill the patient. The classic dart attack will often manifest as pains where no wounds exist. This involves, according to Michael Harner, author of The Way of the Shaman, a literal "sucking out" of the intrusion. This sucking out of the intrusions is done both psychically and mentally. There are other methods of soul extraction as well.

Soul-retrieval is the process by which the Shaman retrieves pieces of the person lost soul. This is often accomplished by journeying to the spirit world and requesting assistance from the spirits, ancestors, and guides that dwell in Other Realities or Worlds. These beings assist the Shaman in discovering what is wrong with the person and often help the Shaman fight a battle with the being now possessing those parts to win them back and bring them to the patient. Some of the classic symptoms of a person in need of soul retrieval would perhaps include those suffering from a mental illness; those abused as children, or those who sense that something is missing in their lives.

This is a dangerous act and often the Shaman if he or she is not trained well enough can fall into physical or mental traps laid by the possessing entities that may cause illness or psychosis for the Shaman.

Soul restoration is the literally restoring of one’s soul. This occurs when a person is near death and his/her soul seeks to move on. This "death" could be the result of a psychic attack or an accident from which the body has recovered physically, but not spiritually. Again the Shaman will journey to the place where the patient has lost his or her soul and barter for that soul to bring it back and restore it to the patient. It takes much strength and power by the Shaman to deal with these otherworld entities and the Shaman must know how and where to wield that power for the good of all. Shamans are not in the business of destruction but rather healing. I cannot emphasize the role of personal power and education for the Shaman enough.

http://www.themystica.com/mystica/articles/w/what_can_shamanism_do%20_for%20_me.html

Shamanic Extraction

Shamanic extraction is the removal of displaced energy, sometimes called intrusions. Energy that does not belong in the body and may cause illness.

Where does misplaced energy come from?

We all are aware that emotional states can effect health. Stress is acknowledged to cause back aches and ulcers. Shamans believe that your emotion takes the form of energy and can be stored throughout the body which eventually leads to illness. So you store your stress or anger in your stomach, or you get angry and send your anger out at someone. We can see this if can remember a time when someone's anger or sadness seemed to have an effect on a room, "her anger hit me like a blow" "you could cut the tension with a knife."

The energy that can be stored in the body does not have to be from anger but could be from other reasons as well, but in the shamanic mind there is not distinction made on where the energy came from. The shaman sees that the energy does not belong there and removes it.

Other types of misplaced energy could be the energy left behind from an injury. Someone sprains their ankle and an energetic injury may remain which could perpetuate weakness in that location. Organ transplants will sometimes be an instance where shamanic extraction is needed. Shamanically everything has a soul, so the heart transplanted from another may still contain energy from the organ donor. This energy may or may not be compatible with the heart transplant recipient. If not the shaman would remove the 'displaced' energy that is adding to the body's rejection of the heart so that the rejection will be less severe.

As you can see in the organ donor example the energy is not good or bad, it simply does not belong there, because it does not belong there it causes illness or weakness in the body.

The Extraction: Finding and Removing the Misplaced Energy

The shaman will first enter a shamanic state of consciousness to diagnose and find where misplaced energy might be in the body. This change in consciousness allows the shaman to see in a different way, to see what is going on energetically. The shaman will perceive the energy in some way that will indicate to her or him that it need to be removed. It may appear to shaman as black sludge, or as an attacking snake. The way each shaman perceives that there is misplaced energy varies, but there is always a signal of some kind which says 'this does not belong here.'

Once the shaman has located the energy which needs to be removed, he or she will then merge fully with their guardian spirits or power animals. This increases the shaman's power and allows them to remove the energy. It also protects the shaman from taking the energy into her or his own body during the shamanic extraction. This increase of power allows the shaman to pull the energy out, it can be compared with magnets. If the shaman increases the power of his or her magnet sufficiently to overcome the displaced energy's hold on the body.

Depending on the shamanic practitioner and the nature of the displaced energy this can be a very quiet process, or some practitioners and especially in native societies the extraction can be quite a show. The shamanic practitioner merged with a power animal may move similarly as his or her power animal, or may make the sounds of her or his animal. For instance if the animal is a snake the practitioner may hiss while removing the energy block. If you are interested in having an extraction you can discuss this with your shamanic practitioner, and they can perform the extraction in a way that you feel comfortable with.

In addition sound may be used, a rattle, or a drum to increase the power or the energy of the "magnet." The shamanic practitioner may sing to maintain her or his shamanic state, or to increase their power during the process.

The shamanic practitioner will dispose of the removed energy in various ways. They may transmute (transform) the energy into a more positive life enhancing energy. They may place it in water and have the water neutralize it.

Once the extraction is performed the shamanic practitioner will fill the void that is created by the vacated energy in the person's body. They may replace it with healing energy, perform a power animal retrieval, or perform a soul retrieval. The shaman will not leave a void for other energy to fill.

Protecting Yourself

If you want to be proactive in avoiding misplaced energy in your body there are various thing you can to. To protect yourself from outside energy you can imagine yourself surrounded by protection. One commonly used method is to envision yourself surrounded by a blue translucent egg that allows only positive energy in and allows energy back out. This can surround you as you go about your daily life. If the environment is severe, or someone is combative you may wish imagine a brick wall for that time.

When you are feeling negative emotions it is important not to ignore them so that they will be stored in your body. They need to be expressed and allowed to leave your body. You do not want to send them to others either so you can just ask that as you express your emotions they are transformed into more neutral or healing energy by the universe or the guardian spirits that are with you.

There are stones or other objects which are considered to absorb negative energy. If this appeals to you: Heavy leaden stones are thought to absorb energy, such as granite, galena, hematite. There are stones which transform and lighten energy such as selenite, calcite, and quartz. A dark purple amethyst may make a good protective stone. Moldavite will transform the negative into positive, and has been known to get physically warm while doing so, this stone can be expensive however. You can have the stone in your pocket, wear it as a pendant, or place it on the desk where you work. People who engage in this practice will clean their stones with water occasionally to clean up any energy that might get stored in the stones. If you feel your stones need a more radical cleaning they can be buried outside to be healed by the earth. Stores that sell these items are often listed under "Rock Shops" in the yellow pages.

If you would like to remove some of your own intrusions, visualization can be helpful. As you drink water imagine it filling your body and transforming misplaced energy, go swimming and imagine this. Lay out in the sun and imagine it melting away your intrusions and filling you with glowing healing energy. Just be sure to imagine something replacing that which is removed.

http://www.shamanlinks.net/shamanic_extraction.htm

Extraction Healing

Shamans all over the world believe that physical illness is often caused by spiritual intrusions, parasitic spirit beings which infest weak spots in the subtle body. The shaman removes these parasites, and disposes of them properly, so that they cannot infest another person.
Like physical parasites in this world, spiritual parasites range from minor to very serious. Extraction healing is often similar to ridding a house of an infestation of fleas or mice. Spiritual parasites often look to the shaman like lampreys or leeches, attached to the client's subtle body and sucking from it. They are a class of being which feeds off spiritual energy. They are not sentient or malevolent, any more than mice nesting in a dresser drawer during the winter are sentient or malevolent. These parasites are just looking for a warm, energetic home. However, having a bad case of spiritual parasites will cause physical illness, so it is important to remove them.

Traditionally, shamans would deposit spiritual parasites into quickly moving Water. Quickly moving Water will take the parasite away into the ocean, purify it, and not permit it to infest other people. However, Water has requested that I take spiritual parasites into a far-distant level of the lower world for purification. Water in this middle world feels overwhelmed by the amount of toxins humans are casting into It on a daily basis. Water has asked me to take this extra measure so as not to add to Its burden.

Depossession

Sometimes, rarely, a spiritual parasite is more serious. Spiritual parasites can sometimes be both sentient and malevolent. These spiritual parasites are also removed with extraction healing, but when the parasites are sentient, they are larger and more pernicious. This is depossession.
Theories abound about this troubling class of spiritual beings. I suspect that most of the sentient parasites I have removed were human souls or parts of souls, who failed to return to the Creator after death. Possible reasons for this failure are manifold, including ignorance about where to go after death, fear of meeting the Creator because of evil actions during life, and confusion from dying suddenly or dying under the influence of disorienting drugs.

http://www.mythkenner.com/methods.html

james777

30-04-2007, 08:01 PM

ho1ogram

30-04-2007, 09:48 PM

This is the gayest shit I ever heard What about when your boyfriend takes a dump?
...now they throw all kinds of different types of deception at us as humans...
Like creating divisions between people according to who they have sex with?

"Mostly their left hand hold a bible
Their right hand holds a gun"

KEV CARMODY http://www.kevcarmody.com.au/
Full lyrics post #76 here: http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showt...?t=2455&page=2

...we still have a chance to join the heavenly hosts

Saviours? Wassup wit dat shit?... http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/3941/smiley2343ax7.gif

I mean all this is just deception to keep us from reaching our maximum potential as God our creator intended for us You and I are God mate... no need to bow down to anything. There aint no hell, you'll be right... say it at the top of your lungs "FUCK JESUS" - look no lightning bolt hit me.
Free will. Have you considered doing an I AM ME I AM FREE photo over at the photo thread? Or does Jesus frown upon your birth day suit that your wearing underneath your clothes?

adramelech

04-05-2007, 02:15 AM

This is the gayest shit I ever heard.....I mean common'....aliens here to harvest us....LOL......that's the most stupid thing i've heard in a long time. You all are so fooled that I actually feel sorry for you. Aliens are 1/3 of the angels that were cast down from heaven before the time of man. They're pissed because they lost their chance at ruling the immediate universe and now they throw all kinds of different types of deception at us as humans because we still have a chance to join the heavenly hosts. They have the ability to appear and dis-appear as they can seamlessly move through our space-time continuim. See how over time they've ruined and divided the human race in matters of religion, politics, wealth, war.....I mean all this is just deception to keep us from reaching our maximum potential as God our creator intended for us.....please don't be fooled or afraid of these FRAUDS, they only have dominion over you if you give them dominion over you....

The only thing you got out of all those papers, articles and books is "aliens are here to harvest us"? Incredible. You then go on to imply the exact same conclusions, only with the term "angels" in place of "aliens". Argue semantics much? It doesn't matter whether you use the term "alien" or "demon" or "angel" or "god" when you are clearly referring to the same beings and throughout history have been referred to by all of those names. Many original Biblical texts are actually a wealth of knowledge on the subject, especially in regards to reptilian-like traits and genetics. Check out the Nag Hammadi texts sometime.

Cheers

tru3

04-05-2007, 03:17 AM

Val Valerian, in his Matrix books, the one's focused on the alien qustion anyhow, refers to it as "inculcation". Actually, it's the greys who call it that, according to some abductees. To my ears, coming from the greys, it is perfectly creepy, maniacal and on the ball, hehehe.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/inculcation

that's certainly part of it, too. repetition is the mother of learning.

we're bombarded with well over 10,000 advertising impressions a day, as we saw in the subliminal vid.

Shamanic Extraction

Shamanic extraction is the removal of displaced energy, sometimes called intrusions. Energy that does not belong in the body and may cause illness.

Where does misplaced energy come from?

We all are aware that emotional states can effect health. Stress is acknowledged to cause back aches and ulcers. Shamans believe that your emotion takes the form of energy and can be stored throughout the body which eventually leads to illness. So you store your stress or anger in your stomach, or you get angry and send your anger out at someone. We can see this if can remember a time when someone's anger or sadness seemed to have an effect on a room, "her anger hit me like a blow" "you could cut the tension with a knife."

The energy that can be stored in the body does not have to be from anger but could be from other reasons as well, but in the shamanic mind there is not distinction made on where the energy came from. The shaman sees that the energy does not belong there and removes it.

rasta,

i can completely relate to what you posted here, especially the last paragraph.

personally, i don't 'see' energy blocks; i just sense where energy wants to go and help complete the flow

ultimately, isn't judging by results the highest form of discernment?

the shamanic way came out of lemuria, as a response to the terrible devastation to the human body and spirit suffered at the hands of the atlanteans.

and do you really want to know who the "fallen ones" were? it's out there; just have the courage to step out towards it.

james, your yahweh comes straight out of this hidden tradition from the 'apocrypha' and the gnostic gospels: the keys of enoch, for example. and, other works from cultures around the world tell the same story.

you might start with michael tsarion's "destruction of atlantis:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6056789081969524094

and btw, if you haven't read any of the texts that have come out of nag hammadi, then trust me; on your deathbed, you will be mentally kicking yourself in the arse for not having read any.

http://www.gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html

one caveat: tread lightly through this stuff. same with any belief, really. ;)

i have seen much personal growth on this forum, people struggling back from terrible emotional trauma and endless abuse, to reach out and make a connection because, my god, i can't be the only one to see how insane this whole universe is, a perpetual bloodbath and an endless chain of predation and consumption.

imho, only an insane god could create this universe. we did.

rastamasta

21-05-2007, 04:17 PM

You then go on to imply the exact same conclusions, only with the term "angels" in place of "aliens". Argue semantics much? It doesn't matter whether you use the term "alien" or "demon" or "angel" or "god" when you are clearly referring to the same beings and throughout history have been referred to by all of those names. Many original Biblical texts are actually a wealth of knowledge on the subject, especially in regards to reptilian-like traits and
genetics.

Cheers

Here's John of Patmos on the subject if you want some biblical information on it.

Revelation 12:9 (New International Version)

9 The great dragon was hurled down that ancient serpent called the
devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to
the earth, and his angels with him.

Revelation 12:14 (New International Version)

14 The woman was given the two wings of a great eagle, so that she
might fly to the place prepared for her in the desert, where she would
be taken care of for a time, times and half a time, out of the serpent's reach.

Revelation 20 (New International Version)

The Thousand Years

1.And I saw an angel coming down out of heaven, having the key to the Abyss and holding in his hand a great chain.

2.He seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil, or Satan, and bound him for a
thousand years.

3.He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations anymore until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short
time.

Satan's Doom

7 When the thousand years are over, Satan will be released from his prison

8 and will go out to deceive the nations in the four corners of the earth Gog and Magog to gather them for battle. In number they are like the sand on the seashore.

9 They marched across the breadth of the earth and surrounded the camp of God's people, the city he loves. But fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

10 And the devil, who deceived them, was thrown into the lake of burning sulfur, where the beast and the false prophet had been thrown. They will be tormented day and night for ever and ever.

and here's some stuff from the emerald tablets of thoth {nicked from someone else's thread on here cant remember who}

Emerald Tablets of Thoth

The following is an extract from the Emerald Tablets of Thoth

Far in the past before Atlantis existed, men there were who delved into darkness, using dark magic, calling up beings from the great deep below us. Forth came they into this cycle.

Formless were they of another vibration, existing unseen by the children of earth-men.

Only through blood could they have formed being. Only through man could they live in the world.

In ages past were they conquered by Masters, driven below to the place whence they came.

But some there were who remained, hidden in spaces and planes unknown to man.

Lived they in Atlantis as shadows, but at times they appeared among men.

Aye, when the blood was offered, for they came they to dwell among men.

In the form of man they amongst us, but only to sight were they as are men.

Serpent-headed when the glamour was lifted but appearing to man as men among men.

Crept they into the Councils, taking forms that were like unto men. Slaying by their arts the chiefs of the kingdoms, taking their form and ruling o'er man.

Only by magic could they be discovered. Only by sound could their faces be seen.

Sought they from the Kingdom of shadows to destroy man and rule in his place.

But, know ye, the Masters were mighty in magic, able to lift the Veil from the face of the serpent, able to send him back to his place.

Came they to man and taught him the secret, the WORD that only a man can pronounce.

Swift then they lifted the Veil from the serpent and cast him forth from the place among men.

Yet, beware, the serpent still liveth in a place that is open at times to the world.

Unseen they walk among thee in places where the rites have been said.

Again as time passes onward shall they take the semblance of men.

http://www.crystalinks.com/emeraldpreface.html

breezei

13-07-2007, 02:39 AM

i kind of agree with asure, but if you have that love and emit that love energy then you will never meet the opposite of you. and if you do it will be the day for the negative person to change, by making the choice them self, vice versa. because when you are emitting your positive energy all people that you run into with be positive as well. and the only way a negative person could try to use its negative energy against you is if he/she knows you are using your positive energy to help mankind rather than being negative and destroying humans. its like being a jedi or a sith haha.

bluestar

15-07-2007, 04:41 AM

Mind Parasites, Energy Parasites and Vampires
Jonathan Zap
(Theory and Authentic First Hand Narratives of Encounters with Mind Parasites and Vampires © 2003 by Jonathan Zap)
The Sick Rose
O rose thou art sick.
The invisible worm.
That flies in the night
In the howling storm.
Has found out thy bed
Of crimson joy,
And his dark secret love
Does thy life destroy.
—William Blake from Songs of Innocence and Experience, Plate 37
"Mind Parasites” has a fanciful sound to it like the confabulation of an overwrought, paranoid imagination. The term was coined by scholar of the occult Colin Wilson in his science fiction novel of ideas entitled The Mind Parasites written in 1967. And the novel is alternately fascinating and silly, spinning out of control with overcaffinated egomania, much of the “science” in the science fiction absurd to anyone who didn’t sleep through their high school biology class. In fairness, Colin Wilson intentionally wrote the book in a hallucinatory Lovecraftian mode, and Lovecraft is actually mentioned throughout the book as a visionary who, in the feverish depths of his imagination, tapped into secrets of the collective unconscious.
“Mind Parasites” is such an obscure topic that if you Google it you’ll find that an email I wrote about it a few years ago, and which John Jenkins archived on his website, turns up in the top three or four hits. (See Mind Parasites and Dune ---Jonathan Zap’s Pavilion on alignment2012.com)
My intuition is that this seemingly obscure subject, hard for some to take seriously, is a glimpse, through a glass darkly, into one of the powerful hidden movers behind human experience, and especially our long, tortured descent into history, the nightmare from which we are trying to awaken.
Yesterday I happened to pick up a couple of books that brought this topic, once again, to the foreground of my attention. The first book is entitled Eyewitness to History, and is edited by John Carey. It consists of eyewitness narrative accounts of historic moments ranging chronologically from a plague in Athens in 430 BC, to the fall of President Marcos in Manila, 1986. As I read some of these eyewitness accounts I noticed that most were reports of the madness of warfare and genocide, culminating in horror with accounts of Nazi concentration camps, still in living memory. I couldn’t help but to notice how surreal, how “over the top” was the ghoulish grotesqueries of human evil. Putting down that book I picked up another I’d been meaning to get to since the Seventies----Alexsandr Solzhenitsyn’s The Gulag Archipelago---an appalling account of the Soviet forced labor camps where throughout the Twentieth Century millions upon millions upon millions of completely innocent Russian citizens were arrested, tortured and thrown into the most brutal captivity imaginable by their fellow Russian citizens. What was the reason for this? Like the “reason” for World War One, no one can really say for sure. It may very well have been for the sheer ecstasy of inflecting terror and horrendous suffering. Law enforcement officials to this day are sometimes infected with this sadistic ecstasy. Solzhenitsyn documents the “imagination,” the fancifulness with which arrests and interrogations were often conducted on innocent citizens so as to make the surreal horror that much more weird, terrifying and bizarre. He also points out the strange, paralyzed passivity of the numerically superior victims who almost never resisted.
These readings caused me to reflect, once again, on whether there might not be an “unknown constant” in the extremity of human darkness, this surreal sadism exploding from purportedly the most intelligent species on the planet, the one apparently most capable of self awareness and a developed moral sensibility.
The possibility of “mind parasites” is not meer off the wall speculation for me, because I’ve had real life experiences with these organisms and they have been reported in all cultures and in all periods. Of course they haven’t always been called mind parasites. A better term might be “energy parasites” but this is also not quite right because it is redundant. All parasites are energy parasites. “Etheric parasites” sounds too Theosophist, has the ring of antique occultism. If anyone can suggest a better term please tell me. Meanwhile I’ll use “mind parasites” and “energy parasites” interchangeably.
The possibility of energy parasites should not take a huge willing suspension of disbelief. Parasitism is one of the three most classic types of relationship in the organic world. The other two are predation and symbiosis (my favorite). Notice that these are all relationships of energetic transaction. And notice that human begins, collectively, and individually, may be classified as all three. Certainly we have emerged as the ultimate predators and parasites on the planet as we devour the biosphere and bring on mass extinctions.
Parasitology may sound like an obscure branch of biology, but it is actually central to the evolution of life. Many biologists now believe that sexual differentiation---the existence of separate genders that mate to propagate the species----had its origin as an adaptation to parasites! Parasites themselves evolve so quickly that in order for hosts to stay enough ahead of them to survive they need the greater genetic novelty and innovation that is generated by sexual differentiation. You can read more mind-boggling information about parasites in a recent book entitled, Parasite Rex. By one of those strange twists of fate my father was a parasitologist for the U.S. Air force during much of World War II.
In Parasite Rex examples are given of how much more sophisticated, evolved and sinister parasites are than is generally known. Parasites have the ability, in some cases, to take over the will of a seemingly much more evolved animal. For example, there is a parasite that attacks a certain type of crab and eats up all nonessential soft tissue inside of it, but leaves the basics that allow locomotion---key muscles, the optic nerves, etc. It is then able to take over this partly hollowed out crab and use it in the manner of an Imperial Lieutenant in the Star Wars fantasy operating an Imperial Walker. Rabies is caused by a parasite, and it produces a particular sort of madness that will cause an infected mammal, even a human being, to want to bite or otherwise cause bloodshed with other mammals thereby opening a vector, an avenue of transmission,for the parasite.
We know from biology that wherever we find life we find these classic relationships of parasitism, predation and symbiosis. Not too long ago, not much more than three hundred years, our species was completely clueless about the microbiological realm. Surgeons would wash their hands after surgery, but not before. Imagine if anyone had claimed that there were these incredibly tiny animals, too small to be seen, that were major players in human destiny. Imagine that they claimed that there wasn’t just one kind, but a whole cryptozoology of millions of strange species, fantastically varied, of both plant and animal. Imagine that they further claimed that our bodies were actually made up of a cooperative colony of a trillion such animals! Anybody making such fantastical claims would have been condemned to a lunatic asylum or burned at the stake.
Presently, in the West, we have a blind spot in our awareness as huge as the blind spot we had for most of our existence as a species of the microbiological realm. Unlike Chinese medicine, Ayurveda and what would be common knowledge to any tribal Shaman, we are blind to organisms that exist on the energetic plane. Dr. Samuel Sagan is a medical doctor who has researched this subject and written a book (I’ve only read excerpts) entitled, ENTITIES: Parasites of the Body of Energy. He’s part of a school in Australia that a friend of mine attended and spoke highly of, though I know next to nothing about it. In an excerpt available on the website clairvision.org, Dr. Sagan writes,
“ The topic is both old and new. Old, because in all traditions and folklores of the earth, one finds references to spirits and non-physical beings which can interfere with human beings. Thus Ayurveda, the traditional medicine of India, is divided into eight sections, one of which is entirely devoted to the study of bhutas, or entities, their influence on health and sanity, and the ways one can get rid of them. This places bhuta-vidya, or 'science of entities', on the same level as surgery or gynecology. If we look at traditional Chinese medicine, we find that in acupuncture, among the 361 points of the 14 main meridians, 17 have the word Kuei (disincarnate spirit) as part of their main or secondary name.”
Call them spirits, the incubus and the succubae, they have as many names as there are cultures and languages, but they have been widely recognized by everybody except us. Disincarnate organisms are far more generally recognized than the microbiological realm ever was until the invention of the microscope. And there isn’t just one type of course, but a fantastically varied cryptozoology of parasites, predators and symbionts. Everywhere we find life we find endless variations on those classic energetic relationships----parasitism, predation and symbiosis. As the alchemists put it, “As above, so bellow.” As on the mircrobiolgical plane, so also on the energetic plane.
If there are organisms on the energetic plane, we should expect to find many highly evolved species of parasites. And wat every parasite is looking for is a host with a rich deposit of energy----like the warm-blooded mammals, which attract female mosquitoes that will use them to fertilize their eggs and complete their life cycle. What is the richest deposit of organic energy that we know of? This would have to be human psychic energy/sexual chi---the energy that dominates this planet. What types of human beings have the richest deposit of this energy? Adolescents, particularly male adolescents, have the greatest overabundance of sexual chi, and highly creative visionary types are thought to have the strongest psychic charge. Is it a coincidence that these are the types apparently most likely to be attacked by energy parasites? Another as above, so bellow phenomenon is that adolescents, particularly males, are apparently the most likely to be attacked by mosquitoes. Probably this is because they generate more infrared, have sweeter blood and less leathery skin.
From my work with dream interpretation, and as someone known to be a student of paranormal phenomenon, I have listened to dreams and strange occurrences from people of all ages. A consistent trend is that it is usually adolescents, or adults recalling an adolescent episode, who tell me of the classic nighttime parasitic attacks. These attacks tend to be highly stereotyped and to be entirely lacking, as far as I can tell, in psychological content. Should we discard all this human testimony because Western science is so far unable to satisfactorily explain it? We should always be wary when any area of human testimony is automatically discarded by a ruling collective. Think of how many generations, how many millennia, was the testimony of child abuse rejected by the collective.
Adolescents are the age segment of the population that generate the strongest excess of sexual chi and are also the group most associated with parapsychological phenomenon. Poltergeist activity, for example, is usually associated with adolescents undergoing puberty in a household in which there is strong sexual repression. In F. Scott Fitzgerald’s first novel, This Side of Paradise (written when he was barely out of adolescence himself), he wrote that people were attracted to the young because they were giving off “calories of innocence.” Calories, as I’m sure you know, are a unit of energy, of heat. When someone is attractive we say they are “hot.” An interesting correlation I’ve noticed is that those most likely to report energetic attacks also tend to be especially good looking. It is as if their dream body or energy body has an attractiveness that parallels their physical body. (For more hidden aspects of appearance and body image disorders see the synopsis of my book The Glorified Body –Body Image Disorders and the Crisis Phase of Human Evolution which will soon be added to Jonathan Zap’s Pavilion at alignment2012.com)
One could also conjecture that these especially attractive individuals are more likely to experience attacks because of sexual attention or erotic fantasies generated by people whom they have attracted. Could autoerotic fantasies, highly energetically charged events culminating in orgasm, “get loose” and somehow be experienced by their target person during the boundary dissolution and heightened telepathy of dreaming? In her book on projection, Jung’s brilliant colleague, Marie Louise Von Franz, points out that in traditional cultures projection, like “the curse of the evil eye,” was depicted as an arrow or missile going out from the percipient to the target person and penetrating their energetic field. Any woman who has gotten the creeps while being cruised by sexually predatory men knows that this is not merely a metaphor. The effect of these sorts of sexually charged projections may also explain some of the madness of celebrities who become the targets of colossal amounts of projection.
Although I have no way of confirming or disproving this possibility, we do know from quantum mechanics that even on the subatomic plane, to observe a thing is to change a thing, so the highly charged sexual projections and autoerotic fantasies directed toward a person can be reasonably supposed to have an effect on them. Studies conducted by British biologist Rupert Sheldrake have confirmed, for example, that the eyes on the back of your head feeling that someone is staring at you is a real effect confirmed by controlled experiments. But to take the next step and suggest that the heated attention of desire is a vector for energy parasite transmission, or even an origin of the parasites, is purely speculative at this point.
In addition to being speculative, it may also be rather dangerous, as a literal minded person who has an erotic dream involving person x may falsely assume that person x is stalking them on the etheric plane. This assumption resulted in not a few witch burnings in this country during Puritan times when a sexually repressed man could have an erotic dream about Sarah Goodwife and this would be admitted into court as “spectral evidence” that she was a witch. Some of my fellow Jungians would also say that what I am calling “mind parasites” would be better described as “autonomous complexes of the collective unconscious.” I would have to respectfully disagree with them, at least in many cases, because if these were autonomous complexes of the collective unconscious I would expect to see them occur embedded with more psychological content and associated mythological motifs, and usually this is not the case.
At the end of this essay on mind parasites I will offer some more speculations on the origin of mind parasites and the etiology of parasitic attack, but first I would like to ground this a bit with some real life experiences. I will start with three cases I can report first hand---attacks I experienced myself.
About seven years ago I was camping with friends, fellow Greenpeace workers, near Taos, New Mexico. We had spent the previous night in a cave, and had planned to heighten our experience of the high desert during the daylight hours with a spirit medicine of the sort associated with dampness and the subterranean. Going for the heroic dose of what turned out to be especially potent medicine, I quickly realized that hiking the high desert in a social context was not where the ally wanted to take me, which was back to my tent and what Terrance Mckenna recommends with such medicines---silent darkness. As soon as I shut my eyes I was aware of an alternate dimension that was so vivid, complex, high resolution, fully realized and alive that I can only compare it to some of my brief encounters with Dorothy Mary Taylor.
I seemed to be looking into organic chambers which intuition told me were organs of my body. One, I felt certain, was my heart, but seen on some plane of alchemical energy. The heart was a chamber with portal like valves and everything was woven of infinitely detailed filaments of living energy. Colors seemed to reveal secrets of the function of different structures. The heart was revealed as a complex nexus and alchemical transformer of cosmic energies, not merely a fluid pump. But suddenly there was a change as definite as the click of a switch being thrown. I felt that some malign force had become aware of my forbidden seeing, a breech in the inner eye was detected, and an immunological response, a sharply aimed attack was launched at me. This attack successfully disrupted the forbidden seeing, but also provided another form of forbidden seeing, a revealed instance of mind parasites at work.
What I experienced was an attack that occurred with a definite periodicity. About every sixth heartbeat or so, a highly charged thought form projectile, like a red diamond bullet, penetrated my psyche and with explosive intensity generated expanding concentric ripples of fear and disturbance. The languaging part of my mind registered this projectile with a contracted word phrase: CANCERKILLER CANCERKILLER CANCERKILLER Along with the languaged aspect would be a terrible image----a chicken lying at the bottom of cellar stairs with its throat cut illuminated by a single hanging light bulb, an emaciated concentration camp victim lying passively while being slid into an oven, etc. The horrific images over powered the forbidden alchemical view of bodily organs.
Since this attack I have often wondered if certain other anxiety attacks weren’t generated more subliminally by the stinging injections of fear energy coming from mind parasites. A constant theme of the scanty literature about energy parasites is that they live off the energy of intense negative emotions and darker sexual desires. They have also been associated with (see clairvision.org) cravings for certain foods, especially sugary or sweet foods. (Mosquitoes also prefer sweet blood, and that may partly account for their preference for the young) It seems that they can feed off the red color temperature of hypercaloric metabolism, excess emotionality and sexual excitement. They may not be able to feed off of the bluer energy of the hypometabolic diet, what in Ayurveda would be called the satvic diet that emphasizes small portions, live foods and carbohydrates with a low glycemic index. They are especially unable to feed off the bluer color temperature of heightened consciousness in a state of emotional equanimity.

bluestar

15-07-2007, 04:49 AM

Case History # 2 Encounter with a Vampire
I’m going to put in as much detail as I can recall (but without details that might give away the vampire’s identity) of this strange encounter. Each time I’ve reflected on it I see new connections in some of the details and I want to give the reader a chance to make their own connections, to connect the dots themselves.
I first met my young friend Nicholas (not his real name, and yes, I still consider him a friend) when he was seventeen or eighteen years old when I was doing I Ching readings for people in a public place. At the time of the encounter it was about two years later and Nicholas would have been nineteen or twenty.
In retrospect, Nicholas looks remarkably like an Ann Rice vampire. He was exceptionally good looking in an androgynous way and everyone commented on this. More than anyone I’ve ever met in person, Nicholas looked like a living Japanimation or anime character. He had enormous eyes, very high cheekbones, straight hair (dyed various colors) and a very small nose and mouth. A serious martial arts student, he trained constantly, and was thin with very high muscle definition. His metabolism was so high that he ate enough for four people but had a body fat under 5%. This was a big problem for him because he had been abandoned by both parents, was always broke, and whatever money he did have had to go to the huge quantities of food he had to eat.
Also, much like an Ann Rice vampire, Nicholas was keenly intelligent and with an impressive array of talents. He had educated himself in a surprising number of areas for someone so young, and was well informed about the occult, Eastern philosophy and psychology. And although he apparently came out of a horrible trailer trash background, he was mannered, eloquent in speech, graceful in movement, and exotic in appearance. Some people instinctively mistrusted him, but to me he was unfailingly honest, thoughtful, and considerate. Of course, I have no doubt that he presented me with his very best side because he valued me as a mentor. Still, I want to acknowledge that his conduct toward me was exemplary, and he was, strange as it sounds, a completely innocent participant (as far as I can tell) in the vampiric attack I experienced. This will become clearer later in the narrative.
On the evening of the encounter I hadn’t spent time with Nicholas for at least a year except for running into him and his girlfriend, Sapphire (not her real name) for five minutes in a health food store. This was because I had been traveling and hadn’t been in the part of the country where they lived for over a year.
After I returned from my travels I ran into Sapphire sitting at a table in a coffee shop. Also exotically beautiful, and racially unidentifiable, Sapphire was a couple of years younger than Nicholas. Although her appearance hadn’t changed much she seemed completely different than when I had first seen her over a year ago. A year ago she was someone I would never have expected to have a conversation with. She was extremely shy or at least so inwardly shut up inside herself that I never saw her relate to anyone, except in the most perfunctory way, besides Nicholas. One time she complimented my artwork, but otherwise we scarcely exchanged a complete sentence even though I saw her almost every day. And it wasn’t just me, in the past there had been this powerful keep away field surrounding her like a force field. But now there was an amazing change, she made strong, friendly eye contact, greeted me like an old friend, and she seemed completely relaxed, open and eager to talk. I was astonished. I’ve almost never seen such an extraordinary change in someone in a year’s time.
We had a great heart to heart talk and there were two or three more such conversations in the next couple of weeks. Sapphire was only about seventeen, but now had the poise of a much older woman, was highly intelligent, articulate, precociously wise, and her exotic beauty turned heads wherever she went. She acknowledged the profound change in herself and credited most of it to the influence of Nicholas. Nicholas had, she told me, with painstaking effort, patience and insight helped her to work her way out of her problems.
On the evening of the encounter, as part of a revelation of his own life story, Nicholas told me that Sapphire had been brought up in a cult, and from the earliest age had been subjected to constant sexual abuse, had been raised to be a Kama Sutra trained sex slave. When I first met Sapphire I felt she was a borderline personality type, a person with fragmented center who seemed likely to remain that way. Given her horrendous past, this wasn’t surprising. But the improvement in her was little short of astounding.
Much of our conversation was about her relationship with Nicholas. They had been together for three or four years, which at their age was practically a lifetime. A traumatic aspect of the relationship, for her, was that she wanted to be monogamous, but Nicholas insisted on an open relationship, and he had affairs with other young women. He was never dishonest about this, did all he could to ease her discomfort, and always related to her as his principle lover. But, nevertheless, it was traumatic for her.
In the last conversation I had with Sapphire she mentioned that some guy she had known in the past, who had been abroad, had returned to town and was madly in love with her. She was apparently considering having an affair with him, since she had always been the monogamous partner in this open relationship.
A few days later it was a freezing cold night and I was hanging out in my RV when Nicholas called me on my cell phone. Although I had these heart to heart talks with Sapphire recently, I still hadn’t spent any time, besides five minutes in the health food store, with Nicholas. Sapphire told me several times that she wanted me to spend time with Nicholas because it had helped him so much in the past, but we had conflicting schedules, and it hadn’t happened yet. Nicholas told me on the cell phone that he desperately needed to talk to me that evening, that Sapphire was leaving him for this new guy and was going to live with him in another country. He was close by and I told him to come right over.
Soon Nicholas was sitting across from me in the back of my eighteen-foot RV, drinking yerba mate. Outside the wind was howling and it was one of the coldest nights of the year. The lighting in the RV was rather dim. It had been a gray, overcast day and my solar panel hadn’t fully charged the deep cycle batteries. With the propane furnace running, which uses an electric fan, electricity was low and I lit a couple of candles for more light. Nicholas looked quite stressed compared to how he looked just a couple of weeks before. His complexion was what Ann Rice would have called, “preternaturally pale,” and he was thinner, his face looking drawn, his elfin japanimation features seemed ready to morph into Edward Munch’s The Scream.
Naturally, the first thing we talked about was his relationship with Sapphire. He reiterated some of the things that she had said about his successful efforts to help her, and told me about her abusive past. Although he had always insisted on an open relationship, and even though he knew it was hypocritical, now that the shoe was on the other foot he felt terrible. She was spending the night with this guy right now. He might have been able to work through that, but now that she was suddenly leaving him to live with this guy in another country…. Having been abandoned by his parents years ago, Sapphire was the closest thing to family he had ever experienced.
We talked about this for some time, I gave him the best advice I could, and we did a couple of I Ching readings on the subject. After the readings, Nicholas told me that he was ready to change the subject, that he had spent the whole day talking to his closest friends about this traumatic break up and he felt talked out about it.
Nicholas’s change of subject was rather unexpected and abrupt.
“I think I’m a vampire.” He said.
“How do you mean?” I asked.
“I feed off of other people’s energy.”
“ Everybody does to some extent, can you give me an example?”
“For example, you.” Replied Nicholas. “From the first time I met you I wanted to feed off of your energy.”
“What do you mean by that?” I asked.
“I’ve always wanted to learn as much as I could from you, to absorb your ideas, and there’s always been a sexual undercurrent to it.” This last part surprised me, seemed to come from left field, otherwise his explanation didn’t sound particularly vampiric. I assumed he had the hunger of a narcissistic personality type always wanting more attention. Very understandable and sympathetic considering how unparented he had been.
It’s always a good idea to pay attention when someone tells you they’re a vampire or evil. This had happened to me years before, someone told me they were evil, but I was young and too busy being sympathetic to realize that I was getting a very serious warning from someone who, indeed, was evil, but had a subordinate part of themselves that had enough love for me to give me a heads up. This evil “mutant” even told me about the exact moment in his life, at age sixteen, when he experienced (his description) “the death of his soul.” Foolishly I ignored the warning and this resulted in, among an array of dark consequences, a vampiric energetic attack with lasting consequences. But this an even more bizarre story that might take hundreds of pages to unravel. And if that wasn’t enough a prior lesson, when I was ten years old I survived a still more dangerous and bizarre, nearly fatal, paraspsychological attack which resulted in a dog mauling and hundreds of stitches. The point is, I should have known better---I had been there before, been bitten before. A classic pitfall is that if you have survived weird darkness you may develop a fatal vanity that you know what you’re doing or that lightening won’t strike twice (an especially foolish notion if your last name is Zap).
It may be true that most evil entities and vampires don’t tell you what they are. They’re often too busy being deceptive and “the devil hath the power to assume a pleasing shape” and all that, and you have to be able to see through the guise, the enticing aura of glamour, beauty, power. But a surprising number of vampires and evil types will tell you what they are, often just once, like a subtly placed calling card, and you’d better pay attention. Often people make the mistake of thinking this person’s just a punk trying to show off, if they really were evil/vampiric, etc. they wouldn’t admit it. But many times they are both showing off and they are evil or vampiric. And don’t forget that narcissistic punks can be evil or vampiric too. Another dangerous delusion is that if you are what I call a “mutant”----a self-transforming round peg off the accepted scale of normality---then other mutants must be your allies. As a mutant myself, I have had the blessing and privilege to be a magnet for other mutants, but I have sometimes forgotten that mutants are not just dangerous to the collective, they can also sometimes be dangerous to other mutants. This is especially true if you underestimate them, or are glamorized by their charisma into overlooking their shadow.
In Nicholas’s case he was not showing off, was not a punk (except sometimes in style of dress), and was not toying with me, not playing the game of leaving the calling card hidden in plain view. He was seeking help for an actual condition. Unfortunately, I was busy being sympathetic, rather than empathic, and taking what he was telling me too psychologically and not enough bioenergetically. We passed over the vampire part and I failed to notice the significance, that the life story he then narrated well into the night had begun with his stark statement,
“I think I’m a vampire.” The revelation came and went too quickly, and I failed to recognize its continued relevance to the life story that followed. But in just a few more hours I would be taking it very seriously indeed.
Nicholas told me that he had no memory of the first four years of his life---it was a complete blank. He was pretty sure this was because he had been abused by his father who later abandoned him. There wasn’t a trace of incest survivor self pity or victim glamour, and his hunch seemed plausible. A classic symptom of the abuse, which he noticed about himself, was that he had been extremely promiscuous with members of both genders from a very early age. There was a great deal of violence in his childhood. His mother went through a series of abusive boyfriends who were also abusive to him. As a young child he witnessed a brutal murder right inside his trailer home. His mother abandoned him at an early age, and he had to make it on his own as a street kid in a big city.
Much of this was a surprise to me, because even though I knew Nicholas was separated from his parents, he had a rather polished manner, was so intelligent and well educated and was always stylishly groomed and dressed in surreal costumes of various sorts from Gothic to futuristic punk to fantasy Renaissance fair attire. Presently he seemed more elf-like than vampiric. He was wearing some sort of elaborate, laced leather jerkin, a finely made Renaissance fair sort of item that looked like what Orlando Bloom wore as Legolas in the Tolkien films. He did not seem like someone from a violent, trailer trash background, though vaguely I remembered that he may have told me some of this a year before, but it never quite gelled in my mind because the detail was left out, and it was so incongruous with the Nicholas I knew.
Nicholas’s life story didn’t have any feeling of fabrication about it, much of it depicted him in an unflattering light. He had been a victim of violence from the earliest age, but as he got older, and learned how to fight, he had also been quite violent himself, and with shame and anxiety he admitted that he had severely maimed one or more persons. He was a street kid living in a dangerous urban environment. For a while he lived with a man who was a major dealer of a designer drug in the rave world. Apparently he was this man’s companion, protégé, object of infatuation, bodyguard and probably lover (I can’t recall if he made this last part explicit or not). There was a certain park he went to in the city to have anonymous encounters with members of the same gender.
By the time I met him, Nicholas’s looks, intelligence and charisma (my observations, not his) had obviously opened doors for him and he was able to make his way off the street and into more favorable circumstances, though he still lived close to the edge. But now, with the loss of Sapphire, who lived in more affluent circumstances, a big part of his emotional and physical support system was falling away.
We talked well into the night, freezing wind howling outside the RV. Sometimes the gusts were strong enough to cause this fiberglass coach to roll slightly on its suspension, like a ship lost at sea. At some point, much earlier in the evening, Nicholas realized that he had missed the last bus to the town where he had a place to stay. He was used to staying in this town with Sapphire, but, obviously, that wasn’t happening tonight. He asked if he could crash in my RV. Of course I said yes, my sleeping loft easily slept three, two with plenty of room to spare, and he didn’t seem to have any other option.
After recounting his life story, Nicholas said he was exhausted and looked it. I told him to take the far side of the sleeping loft, so I wouldn’t have to disturb him when I got up there, and took the near side. He lay down on the loft and seemed to instantly fall asleep. I followed sometime later. Usually I need less sleep than most people, and I am also a very, very light sleeper. This may be the result of years of training myself to wake up and recall my dreams. Usually I have 100% recall, so I feel it’s a good trade off even though it is often a hardship for someone who travels as much as I do, often out of a backpack. I also tend to be hyper sensitive to human energies, and it is almost impossible, for example, for me to fall asleep or remain asleep in a dwelling where anyone else is awake. So I knew it would be tough for me to fall asleep so near to someone else’s energy field, and I wanted to make sure Nicholas was sound asleep before I even tried.
When I did go up on the loft I took the extreme near side of the loft to have as much personal space as possible. After I lay there for some minutes waiting for sleep, Nicholas rolled over in such a way that three different parts of his body, his forehead, knees and toes were lightly touching my body as he lay in a fetal position. I didn’t want to wake him, so I just lay there and eventually fell asleep.
Sometime, in the middle of the night, an inner survival warning system woke me wide-awake in an instant. I’m not sure how to describe what followed because so many things were apparent simultaneously, but can’t be described simultaneously. Describing one thing after another would seem to imply a chronological sequence, but the first several things were all apparent in the first heartbeat or two of awakeness, they were more like a simultaneous overlay of perceptions and realizations rather than a sequential cascade. Please keep this in mind as I relate the following.
I was awakened by one of the most shocking and intense things I have ever felt in a long life of shocking anomalous experiences. A massive, massive energy transfer was happening, primal life energy, chi, was pouring out of me and into Nicholas’s sleeping body which was still lightly touching mine. I found myself paralyzed, and this paralysis seemed a more active, energetic version of ordinary sleep paralysis. I felt myself restrained with lashings of fiery energy, much the way Gulliver, in Gulliver’s Travels, awoke to find that the tiny Lilliputians had restrained him with lashings of rope over his whole body. There was a parasitic entity in the sleeping loft hovering just bellow the roof near our feet. It was like a dark cloud, or vortex, with a somewhat double convex lens shape similar to the way a spiral galaxy looks from a great distance. My visual perception of it was not definite; it was dark and amorphous with fractal boundaries and rotating movement. I felt it energetically, a direct perception of it, and there may or may not have been an overlay of conventional, anatomical eyesight. I knew that this parasite was living in conjunction with Nicholas and was directing the massive, massive energy transfer while he slept. I felt that if this energy transfer were to continue for even three or four more heartbeats I couldn’t be sure if I would even be me anymore, if there would be anything left capable of resisting.
All of the above was a multilayered simultaneous realization. You may have experienced, I certainly have, that in life or death situations our psyche can step outside of slow, linear time thinking ego mode and go into an enhanced mode where profound layers of perception can unfold in a heart beat.
After this first heartbeat of recognition, there was a change in me, my will to resist emerged like a sword pulled from a sheath. And in my mind, a blue fire sparked, instead of fear there was an intense curiosity and fascination, I had been studying mind parasites for years and now I was able to see how it actually worked! With my mind fully awake, and my will activated to stop this vast, insidious suction of energy, the color temperature of my psychic energetic metabolism had switched from red to blue, an energy that is apparently unnourishing, even dangerously toxic to parasites. The dark spiral cloud entity made a distinct sound at that point, the only way I can language this sound (it’s meaning was instantly apparent) is to say that it was the sound of primal frustration of a very hungry animal that has been interrupted in the middle of feeding.
With my mind and will fully awakened, the parasitic cloud entity vanished like a puff of smoke, leaving not even a hazy residue. The energy transfer had already stopped and it was just me and Nicholas on the sleeping loft. All of this occurred in a space of less than six heartbeats, possibly as few as three or four, but it had indelibly etched itself on my memory.
Now perhaps you can make sense of my earlier statement that Nicholas was an innocent participant in the vampiric attack (as far as I can tell). Nicholas has never consciously acted to harm me in any way (unlike the person who warned me he was evil!). Even the attack did not appear to be harmful (because I had successfully resisted it). I didn’t feel drained the next day, or ill in anyway. Again, this was a dramatic contrast to the other vampiric attack, many years before, that left me ill for weeks afterwards. Months after I recovered from that illness, which much resembled giardia—a parasitic infection----the vampiric person called me on the phone from South Korea while I was in Manhattan, thousands of miles away, and within two minutes, before I hung up the phone, the illness returned!
Ultimately, the experience with Nicholas was a peak learning event revealing much about a very significant phenomenon. This does not mean that I encourage anyone to approach vampires to learn from them. “Studying the dark side” is one of the most classic ways to get sucked into the dark side, and that remains one of the most likely pitfalls for me.
Returning to my narrative, I stayed awake on the sleeping loft for some time, possibly the rest of the night, thinking about what happened and reinforcing the experience, both the conversation with Nicholas and the attack, into memory. I felt perfectly safe afterwards, though as an extra precaution I did an inner practice called “Theater of Memory,” which, among other virtues, is very effective in sealing and protecting energetic boundaries.
The following morning I told Nicholas what I had experienced and he seemed interested, but not the least surprised. He reminded me that he had told me the night before that he was a vampire, that he fed off of other people’s energy, and that he had always been attracted to mine! I could hardly accuse him of pulling the wool over my eyes. My tone was not accusatory or asking for apology, but one of fascination with what I had learned. We parted on good terms, though I have not seen Nicholas or Sapphire ever since then.
There are many interesting details in this case study to comment on. The first that comes to mind is the paradoxical complexity of Nicholas as symbiont/host to a vampiric parasite and the many positive, even exemplary, things about him. Ann Rice’s vampires have much this same uneasy mixture of the admirable and the horrific. Nicholas had clearly had an astoundingly positive effect on Sapphire, though he also suggested that his vampiric nature may have been unsatisfying to her erotically, and may be what caused her to seek fulfillment with another lover.
Nicholas was a classic candidate for parasitical attack and infection as an extremely attractive male adolescent. He may have been repeatedly raped as a small child, and was certainly highly promiscuous there after. Just as physical sex is now known as a great disease vector for microbiological parasites---as above, so bellow---it is also a likely vector for energetic parasites. Similarly, a voracious appetite for food, with an inability to put on weight, is sometimes a symptom of physical parasites, like tape worms, perhaps it is also a symptom of energy parasites that want to rev up the metabolic fires of their hosts. In the movie, The Matrix, Neo is derisively called “Coppertop,” a reference to Duracell batteries, and a reminder to him that he exists to be used as a disposable energy source for parasitic machines.
The way Nicholas’s vampirism worked had remarkable parallels to the origin of vampires that eventually unfolds in Ann Rice’s Vampire Chronicles. In her vampire cosmology, a spirit, a disembodied entity (spirits are often said to be jealous of those possessing physical bodies) that has an affinity for human blood, is able to merge with the bodies of an ancient King and Queen of Egypt through the apertures of bloody wounds opened in their bodies by the stabbing knives of assassins. The King, Queen and the disincarnate spirit become bonded, merged symbionts, and a new species is created, neither flesh nor spirit---the vampires. Nicholas, a self proclaimed vampire, seemed to be a symbiont/host of a disembodied parasitic entity.
The third first hand case history of mind parasite attack happened just eighteen days ago. You may have already read this one as an email entitled “Mutant Danger Alert!” If so, you may still want to reread this brief account from the new perspective of mind parasites taking over the susceptible to attack a mutant. The people involved in this attack have turned out to be decent people who, apparently ashamed of their behavior that night, have gone out of their way to help me out since then, so the story had a happy ending. The fact that they are decent people makes this an even more likey attack of mind parasites inserting their minds or thought forms into susceptible psyches. This attack came at night, and when I was already in a somewhat vulnerable state of mind. It happened on the 13th of this month, the night of the full moon. Here’s my first person account written the day after the attack:
Last night something occurred that seemed like a Twilight Zone episode or like being inside an overwritten Stephen King story or Shirley Jackson play. I’m sending this out because I think this incident has a general meaning with some implications for many of us.
Yesterday I returned to my campsite very late in the afternoon after spending most of the day in Ione. In the two or three days proceeding, I had very pleasant experiences at this campground. I met a middle-aged couple who invited me to dinner and breakfast. I relocated to a better tent site at the edge of the campground away from where there were families with noisy small children. The couple relocated (for the same reason I did) taking the spot right across from me. Yesterday morning, shortly before I left for Ione, they packed up and left and when I returned a family with noisy kids and a boom box had replaced them. I sat quietly reading at my site. As dark started to fall (this was the 13th, which was also the full moon) a new couple---an obese woman in her late teens/early twenties and a bean pole guy with crew cut (everybody involved very redneck) comes up to the new family across from me and I overhear bizarre sound bites of some dire warning being given, something about a “psychopathic guy…staring at all the children….writin’ weird symbols in his own excrement on the bathroom walls.” The weirdly tomboyish matriarch of the new family says, “I’ve got knives and hatchet (which she pronounced “hetchit” rhyming with khetschup) The obese/beanpole couple says, “Just give a holler if you need us.” And the matriarch says, “He better stay on his side of the road.” Suddenly I realize, I’m the only one on the other side of the road, they must be talking about me! Inwardly I debate with myself about whether I am either being victimized by my own paranoid imagination or by some sort of actual red neck witch hunt. Some anxious minutes go by while I’m not quite able to resolve this or to think of any appropriate action. Then obese/beanpole couple returns to the family, dark has fallen now, but in the flickering light of their fire pit I see that obese/beanpole and family are all standing together and looking like a posse. The obese woman call out to me in a challenging tone, “Where you from?”
“Colorado.” I respond.
Suddenly obese/beanpole standing in front of me. “How come you been starin’ at all the kids?” (the kids in question were fat, inbred red neck kids that probably no one, least of all me, had any interest or history of staring at)
“What?! I haven’t been staring at any kids. I’ve been gone almost all day in Ione. I’ve only been over to that side of the campground once today to fill up my water bottle!”
A six or seven year old girl, with a Salem Witch trial glint in her eyes appears from the shadows and says in an accusatory tone,
“That’s right, I saw him comin’ right at me wit’ his was water bottle an’ he was starin’ right at me.” Next, the obese woman claims that she is the host of the campground (I later found out this was a complete lie) and says,
“And somebody been making weird symbols on the bathroom walls with their own excrement!”
“That’s weird and gross,” I responded, “but it certainly wasn’t me!” (Later I recalled that there were a few random streaks of mud on the bathroom walls which to the serial killer movie/ tv news ---“if it bleeds, it leads”---addled imagination of an IQ challenged amateur detective could only mean one thing: an evil serial killer making satanic symbols with his own excrement!)
I tried to apply more reason and in a reasonable tone. (In retrospect, or if I run into them again, I should have pointed out that libel is actionable offense). Violent crime in this country has gone down by about 30% in the last ten years but the reportage of in the same period has increased 600% so that kids are so frightened of strangers that a random glance feels like a potential abduction.” etc. Beanpole/obese seemed a bit swayed, but the weirdly tomboyish matriarch had a violently negative response to my reasonable approach which might have been too intellectual for her. She said, “He’s just tryin’ to use facts, I know people who are in prison for life who try to use facts.” Beanpole/obese walked off, but the matriarch caught in some version of auto-echolalia began repeating herself, emphasizing angrily the connection between those who use facts and lifelong convicts. When this tape ran out she began saying, “If he tries to touch any of my kids I’ll put this hetchit (holding said implement in her hand) right through his heart!” this tape repeated itself at length; in fact I heard it as I was in my tent trying to fall asleep. Realizing that any more facts would just rile them up more, but also not about to pack up and leave in the middle of night ( a sure admission in their eyes that I was a serial killer) I had to spend my full moon thirteenth in a kind of horror story setting.
My tent is still at that campsite and I might come back to find them gone or a cross burning in the middle of my tent or who knows…. This morning when I asked to speak to the “host” when I found a clean up crew coming through I learned that there was no host. I also took the precaution of calling the people who supervise the campground to let them know of my experience. If they are still there I plan to confront them and remind them about libel.
There is, I believe, a more general meaning to this bizarre incident. I realized that this mind parasite attack had resemblances to my experiences at the border where this customs woman I hadn’t interacted with in over a year remembered everything about me and said that she spotted me 3 or 4 times in Nelson. What I realized is that if you are what I call a mutant, an unusual person that doesn’t fit the mold, you are likely going to be the target of some very polarized projections. In the right social venue, like the gathering I had just been to or some place else where there is a concentration of fellow conscious mutants, I often get great recognition and positive attention from people. But over a lifetime I have found that when dealing with square peg types that their unconscious immediately registers you as a mutant even if you are (as I am now) middle aged with short hair, white skin, clean shaven, normally dressed. Then you become like “a splinter in their mind they can’t get out.” You are a subliminal shock wave threat to their unconscious equilibrium and they have an immunological response to you, they want you out of the body politic, they want to burn the witch they sense in you. The USA has a bad history with witch-hunts and is now more fear driven then ever. So if you are a mutant, are living an alternative life that deviates from statistical norms in anyway, watch out! The lunatic majority doesn’t need a full moon to get medieval on your ass, they’re ready to do it all the time. So cloak yourself and be alert, the Babylon Matrix remains a very dangerous place.
This attack occurred during a full moon, and we all know there is a some link between lunar and lunatic. The lunatic aspect may be related to the uncanny association of parasitic beings and the moon, which has also been noted by others. Gurdjieff described the moon this way, and frequently said that unconscious people were “food for the moon.” I’d known that since studying Gurdjieff in the Eighties, but also found it turning up in, The Mind Parasites, where one character asks,
“Do you know the work of the philosopher Gurdjieff? He always said that human beings were food for the moon. He compared the human race to a flock of sheep that are being fattened for the moon…” The moon has a certain physical analogy to parasites in that it does not have its own energy source or illumination, and only reflects the energy of the sun. That’s from our vantage, of course, since the earth is also dependent on the sun for energy. In my earliest visions of the parasites I saw what I called “moon worms.” They had a pale, unearthly, baleful luminosity. In a novel of the West, All the Pretty Horses, recently made into a major motion picture, the heroic protagonist, an adolescent male sixteen years old, in a moment glaringly incongruous with the style and content of the rest of the novel, looks up at the moon and wonders if there aren’t parasitic entities up there feeding off of human suffering.
In one of the most visionary plates in Alex Gray’s classic art book, Sacred Mirrors, we see a seated figure in the center of a kind of mandala of energy. Around the circumference we see many permutations of the act of physical coupling. At two points of the mandala are angelic Hindu beings, one as I recall looks like Ganiesh, the elephant deity. The couplings near these figures seem loving. At the other two points of the mandala are parasitic deities; one of them looks like a devouring vagina. The couplings near these figures are sado-masochistic and negative. A close friend of Alex Grey told me a story about the inspiration for this painting. Let me emphasize that this is a second hand story that I have not confirmed with Alex. But even if it were a fabricated urban legend, it would still have significance. I was told that Alex was hanging out with friends in an apartment where everyone had taken acid. Suddenly Alex noticed his friends hitting on each other in an ugly way and he became aware of parasitic deities above the earth that seemed to be promoting the ugliness and feeding off of the negative energy.
(I’m going to jump around a bit now, throw out some more dots on this nebulous map of unseen parasites, give you a chance to connect the dots as you choose.)
In the last chapter of Castaneda’s last book involving his relationship with Don Juan, a chapter entitled “The Mud Shadows,” Don Juan takes Castaneda out into the desert and helps him to shift into the second attention. From the second attention Castaneda can see what Don Juan calls “the flyers,” shadowy worm like creatures that feed off of human energy and have the ability to insert their mind into the minds of average, susceptible people. The physical description of these “flyers” sound remarkably like the “rods,” the very high seed flying organisms that have been video taped by Jose Escamilla (see roswellrods.com). Consider the poem by William Blake at the beginning of this essay and the “The invisible worm/That flies through the night.”
Don Juan is not the only one to suggest that there might be parasites, as there are microbiologically, that have an ability to insert their mind or will into a host. In the novel, The Mind Parasites, it is suggested that certain diabolic individuals like Hitler and the Marquis De Sade (who encouraged the dark sexuality of the sort we see near the parasitic deities in Alex Gray’s vision) are puppets, zombies who have been hollowed out by the parasites and are now entirely under their control. When Jung met Hitler he described him as “a psychic scarecrow,” and some very evil figures have been described as having blank, doll’s eyes and to be on a kind of automatic pilot like mechanical puppets. When they asked one serial killer what he was thinking about when he stalked young women in preparation for torturing and killing them he replied matter of factedly, “Takin’ care of business.” Maybe that’s the one thought rattling around in George W’s hollowed out head: “Takin’ care of business.” I’m going to quote a long passage from The Mind Parasites to give you a feel for how Collin Wilson describes it,
“ In a few cases, the vampires have been able to completely take over a human mind and use it for their own purposes. For example, I am almost certain that De Sade was one of these ‘zombis’whose brain was entirely in the control of the vampires. The blasphemy and stupidity of his work are not, as in many cases, evidence of demonic vitality, and the proof of it is that De Sade never matured in any way, although he lived to be 74. The sole purpose of his life work is to add to the mental confusion of the human race, deliberately to distort and pervert the truth about sex.
As soon as I understood about the mind vampires, the history of the past two hundred years became absurdly clear. Until about 1780 …most art tended to be life enhancing, like the music of Hayden and Mozart. After the invasion of the mind vampires, this sunny optimism became almost impossible to the artist. The mind vampires always chose the most intelligent men as their instruments, because it is ultimately the intelligent men who have the greatest influence on the human race. Very few artists have been powerful enough to hurl them off, and such men have gained a new strength in doing so---Beethoven is clearly an example; Goethe another.
And this explains why it is so important for the mind vampires to keep their presence unknown, to drain man’s lifeblood without his being aware of it. A man who defeats the mind vampires becomes doubly dangerous to them, for his forces of self-renewal have conquered. In such cases, the vampires probably attempt to destroy him in another way—by trying to influence other people against him.”
A couple of pages later and Wilson makes a very interesting speculation. He suggests that the parasites may seek out species that are on the brink of a quantum evolutionary leap, but still in the highly energetically charged, vulnerable position of not yet having emerged on the other side of that leap.
“ Now I suspect that these mind vampires specialize in finding races who have almost reached this point of evolution, who are on the brink of achieving a new power, and then feeding on them until they have destroyed them. It is not their actual intention to destroy – because once they have done this, they are forced to seek another host. Their intention is to feed for as long as possible on the tremendous energies generated by the evolutionary struggle. Their purpose, therefore, is to prevent man from discovering the worlds inside himself, to keep his attention directed outwards. I think there can be no possible doubt that the wars of the twentieth century are a deliberate contrivance of these vampires. Hitler, like De Sade, was almost certainly another of their ‘zombis’. A completely destructive world war would not serve their purposes, but continual minor skirmishes are admirable.”
A few paragraphs later Wilson states the intuition I had long before I read Mind Parasites---that the parasites, seen from a sufficiently encompassing evolutionary vantage, are revealed to be symbionts in that they challenge an evolving host to become far more conscious in order to shake off the threat. Frank Herbert, in his fourth Dune novel, God Emperor of Dune, seems to have had a similar idea. The God Emperor who is following his “Golden Path” (apparently his personal revelation of an evolutionary Tao), makes himself into a supreme predator or parasite that dominates the human species for millennia. He does not enjoy being an oppressor, but is doing it purposefully so as to paradoxically create mutants who will be so resistant to oppression that they will able to lead their species out of bondage forever. In the I Ching it is said that some things do not fully blossom or unfold unless they are fully compressed (or oppressed). Wilson writes,
“I have another theory, which is so absurd that I hardly dare to mention it. This is that the mind vampires are, without intending it, the instruments of some higher force. They may, of course, succeed in destroying any race that becomes their host. But if, by any chance, the race should become aware of the danger, the result is bound to be the exact opposite of what is intended. One of the chief obstacles to human evolution is man’s boredom and ignorance, his tendency to drift and allow tomorrow to take care of itself. In a certain sense, this is perhaps a greater danger to evolution---or at least, a hindrance---than the vampires themselves. Once a race becomes aware of these vampires, the battle is already half won. Once man has a purpose and a belief, he is almost invincible. The vampires might serve, therefore, to inoculate man against his own indifference and laziness…”
Elsewhere, Colin Wilson compares the insidious effects of the mind parasites to “radar jamming.” This is a metaphor or analog to their apparent ability to obfuscate, to generate confusion, wild dangerous rumor (as happened to me on the 13th) and otherwise make it hard for the host species to wake up. Mayan scholar John Jenkins and I had a dialogue very recently concerning the deceptive Dreamspell fad, and its obfuscation of authentic Mayan calendar and prophecy. (See “Zap on Dreamspell” ----Jonathan Zap’s Pavilion at alignment 2012.com) Everyone has noticed that whenever a creative cultural trend tries to get started, any time a new scene, a new bohemia tries to get going, corrupt commercializers rush in to produce a degraded, counterfeit version that sucks all the life out of it. If a new visionary band appeared on the music scene they would probably be found advertising disposable Burger King cups by the end of the month. If a mutant is discovered they can be either repressed or imprisoned (like what the feds did to Wilhelm Reich), or they can be promoted into a celebrity where they will be hollowed out by projections and parasitic temptations until they become a ‘zombis’ for the Matrix.
Potential mutants may be exactly the ones taken over by the mind parasites as Collin Wilson suggests. The school shooters, particularly the Columbine kids---Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold are all male adolescents, usually good looking. John Lee Malvo seems to be another one. Their terrifying actions seem very intelligently and precisely directed so as to create the richest harvest of fear and negative emotion in the collective.
We have said very little so far about the possible etiology or origin of the mind parasites. One intriguing theory of origin is presented by Dr. Samuel Sagan (clairvision.org). According to this theory, at the time of human death, there are denser, darker fragments of consciousness that remain behind after the spirit departs the body. Sagan believes that many traditional funeral practices, especially those involving cremation, were originally designed to destroy these fragments. These lingering incomplete fragments of consciousness do not have their own direct connection to pranic or life energy, but must parasitically attach themselves to those that do. This seems similar to the Buddhist concept of the “hungry ghost.”
There is a principle of logic known as Occham’s Razor which may support Sagan’s theory somewhat. Occham’s Razor says that hypotheses are not multiplied without necessity. In other words, we don’t adopt fancy, complex explanations where simpler ones seem to suffice. If there are energy parasites (for many this is a big if) and since they seem to both understand and be perfectly adapted to feeding off of human energy, instead of suggesting a more exotic theory of origin, say extraterrestrial or interdimenisonal parasites hunting through the multiverse, we can simplify our hypothesis by having us, human beings, whom we know exist, as the source of the parasite. At one point Colin Wilson suggests that we might be the parasites in his novel. I made a similar suggestion during the discussion of projection.
Employing Occham’s razor to cut away the fanciful altogether, it is also possible to describe mind parasites in terms of memes, or units of cultural transmission. When people tried to explain the actions of the Columbine kids in terms of their obsessive addiction to the video game Doom, they were essentially relying on memes as the source of contagion. Although I think they were wrong, or at least wildly disproportionate, it can easily be demonstrated that memes are quite capable of functioning as mind parasites. For example, an adolescent male watching the endless blockbuster movies in which scenes of extreme violence are dovetailed with scenes that are sexually arousing---like James Bond making out with some exotic beauty moments after a glamorous blood bath, or, even worse, both violent and arousing, like the famous erotically charged shower/stabbing scene in Alfred Hitchcock’s Psycho. Another example are the subliminal, and not so subliminal enticements in cigarette ads. These memes cross wires that should not be crossed---sex/violence, sex/cigarettes. Certainly in the cigarette ads it is the conscious intention of their designers to create a parasitical infection, a mind insertion meant to cause a virulent addiction that, in the shortened life of an average smoker, nets tobacco companies hundreds of thousands of dollars. Using subliminals and sexually arousing images to sell known toxins should be outlawed to close at least one mind parasite vector. A psychologist I saw on a panel discussion wisely suggested that there be a “cooling off period” between sexually arousing scenes and violent scenes in movies so that we stop conditioning adolescent males to perceive violence as sexy. I don’t, however, advocate anything but voluntary self censorship.
To demonstrate how memes can act as functional mind parasites we can get even simpler and give an example of a single sentence (another cultural unit of transmission) acting to spread soul-consuming mind parasites.
Let’s say we have an adolescent male who has many good, compassionate qualities. He forms an attachment to an adolescent girl and there is a genuine bond, he truly cares for her. The adolescent is genuinely traumatized and extremely vulnerable when he discovers that, in typical high school fashion, the girlfriend has cheated on him. He goes to his best friend for sympathetic council and his friend utters a single definitive sentence, “That’s just the way they are, so fuck ‘em and forget ‘em!” In the painful confusion of adolescent eros a single sentence like this, from the right person and at the right moment, could be potently influential, could seem like an empowered antidote to the pain and confusion. If the adolescent male adopts this soul-destroying mind parasite, transmitted in a single sentence meme, he may then spend a lifetime infecting others with the contagion.
Finally, in dealing with an important, but nebulous phenomenon such as energy parasites or UFOs, the strategy I follow and recommend to others is to avoid formatory thinking or premature closure. This is the lazy mental habit of thinking you’ve got the answer and letting that notion harden into a perceptual dogma making you a true believer of a pet theory. Prematurely closed ideas create an enormous apriori constraint on you observational powers, influencing you to corral the evidence to fit your theory.
I regard my thoughts about mind parasites to be speculative, and I will be thrilled to find an explanation for what I have observed that turns my thinking on its head with some new insight.
If you are experiencing trouble you believe is related to mind parasites, or otherwise have some information or ideas please feel free to contact me. If you feel under attack I recommend a 100% live foods diet (go to rawfood.com or read Conscious Eating by Gabriel Cousins) and elimination of all stimulants, intoxicants and outsize portions. Shift your metabolism and the feeding will stop. I also recommend using the techniques for dealing with negative thoughts and emotions described in Part III of my Guide to the Perplexed Interdimensional Traveler available on the website. Check back as this document will be updated as I learn more about this phenomenon. For more discussion of mind parasites and the dynamic evolutionary context in which they are happening go to Jonathan Zap’s Pavilion at alignment2012.com. You’ll find much relevant material, especially when a document entitled “White Crows Rising…” is added, hopefully rather soon.
We’ve been working a great deal from the left side of our brains in this discussion and that may be too confining when dealing with a vast and nebulous terrain. The last thing I will leave you with is not more theory, but a vision of the mind parasites that happened to me and that can be found in Shocking Anomalous Experience parts IV and V. While these experiences are not literally true in the way the case histories presented here most definitely are, the Shocking Anomalous Experience narrative presents true events and perceptions as seen through the second attention. A confirmation that what I envisioned was not just a quirk of my imagination is in the animated Matrix sequel, Animatrix (infinitely superior to the godawful, mind parasited, hollowed out Matrix Regurgitated or whatever it was called). In Animatrix we see an expanding parasitic lattice almost identical in form to what I envisioned. I’ll step aside to let you experience that for your self. Feed back is always welcome. Yours in symbiosis, Jonathan

bluestar

15-07-2007, 04:50 AM

"I brought you here to see life forms that coinhabit your realm, that feed in your realm, yet they are hidden and unknown to most of your kind." I knew what he was referring to, but had to ask, had to have it spelled out.
"Do you mean the mind parasites?"
"Yes, that's exactly what I mean. You have done well compared to most of your kind, in becoming aware of them, and seeking to be vigilant about them. Your will to be vigilant about them is part of what brings us together here right now. You and your kind need to see what feeds upon you, you need to behold the feeders, to bring that which manipulates you and harvests you out of the shadows and into the light of awareness." The implications of his words were chilling, but not unknown to me. Still, he was silent for a few moment, giving me time to absorb the impact of his words which were a powerful confirmation of a dark possiblity I had long been aware of…. (large passage deleted) And then Raven asked very gently, but owning the seriousness of the moment, "Are you willing to look at the feeders?" And suddenly I wasn't so sure if I was willing. I sensed the edge of the abyss, but I knew my life only allowed for one possible answer and I willed myself to say, "Yes."
"Then look down." said Raven.
I looked down and saw that which unraveled me for several long heartbeats before I was willing to let what my eyes scanned enter my mind. Attached to my body, coming from my body, through my body, was a broken lattice of dark filaments, undulating filaments like a broken spider web spun of black spider silk moving, undulating chaotically. And I knew that each of the filaments was a kind of nerve cell, shadowy black neurons with infinitely complex dendrites and interconnections with other threads of tissue. I must call it tissue because it was alive and intelligent and.... parasitic, virulently parasitic, a vampiric web, only the web was the vampire, and it was highly aware of me for I was its food source, its host, and it continually reconfigured itself to create networks, new interconnections to draw off more vital energy, and I felt the blackness of this shadow web, dendrites and axons of flat black spider silk moving and undulating, and also pulsating, but it was a weirdly horrifying inverse arterial pulsing, and suddenly I comprehended the horror of its pulsing rhythm, it was the antiheart beat of my heart beat. This pulsating lattice of tissue was a capillary suction pump, it beat in perfect counter rhythm to my heart beat because when my heart pumped blood out it sucked in, not blood but vital energy and for a moment it was not clear if I was merely tissue, an organ inside of its body, or if it was a parasitic tissue that surrounded my body. Something about the light absorbing flat blackness of the filaments made them tendrils of energy suction and also rendered them invisible to ordinary human eyesight. At certain nodes of the web, a nexus of dendrites formed a densely entangled concavity, a bulbous thicket of black nerve tissue and inside these were pale worm-like parasites, and these worms had the pale, silvery luminosity of a hungry moon, a sterile moon whose only light was reflected from a host energy source on which it drew. These moon worms were part of a delicately counterbalanced parasitic ecosystem, an ecosystem for which I was now the sole food source.
The equilibrium of this ecosystem had been shocked, even shattered by my displacement to this green realm and the web of parasitic life undulated in a highly agitated, chaotic state. It was a broken lattice, its outer edges were loose filaments, spindly neurons whose outer dendrites had been yanked off so that only loose dismembered axons, undulated in amputated torment seeking to be reconnected, reconnected to the larger web, the planetary matrix of tissue which they had been so densely interconnected to before I entered the portal. I had displaced to a green realm, a realm not infected with this vast network of parasitic tissue, so all that I saw was the broken remnant of the web that had closely surrounded my body and somehow survived crossing over. This was but the smallest part of the mind parasite matrix that had always harvested my energy, its perpetual suction a hidden, insidious taxation of my every pulse of life energy, but now it lay before me shocked and vulnerable and I almost felt pity for it. It was torn asunder from its planetary matrix and unsure of itself, chaotically trying to reconfigure itself to cocoon around me perhaps, tightening its embrace of the host to conserve its one remaining energy source.
My mind almost unraveled as I gazed at this alien life form, for I was seeing that which it is not permitted to see, and it was a singularity, like the time when I was ten and mauled by a dog and I saw muscle tissue, purple and pink veined, the inside of my body on the outside, and perception came in time-slowing shock waves.
Then my visual perception blurred for a moment as color erupted and it took a moment to realize these were Raven's hands moving with blurred speed, and his hands projected flames or jets of multi-colored energy. So fast they moved and with surgical precision, and I knew exactly what they were doing, they were freeing me, filament by filament, from the matrix and the feeling was ecstatic, euphoric, as a billion hungry little mouths were removed from my skin, a billion points of constriction and fear that I had no idea even existed, because I had never before been freed from their insidious suction.
I felt my energy field blossoming, my awareness, my being was spinning outward, dancing and singing into the mesa, a glorious emergence as parasitic cobwebs vanished into the high desert night. My spirit celebrated, rejoiced but I felt I could not go fully into the celebration, I had to seek the forbidden knowledge because the hungry web still thrived on my earth, the predatory realm that I inhabited with six billion of my brothers and sisters. I saw so many of them there going about their day their gaze downward, many with spirits broken, for above them was a dark coagulated sky, a planetary vampiric matrix above their heads, above them on the food chain, and their suffering spirits were like nodes of nourishing energy inside this dark brain, a network of parasitic intelligence inserting its mind into all of us, harvesting from us a rich diet of fear, pain, hatred, jealousy, addictive passions, lethargic indulgences. And we have been the deceived host of this metaparasite since at least the dawn of history. We need to break loose from this devouring cocoon, but to do so, we need the clarity of the Vehrillion Sapphire Elemental to cast light on the vast, shadowy mind, the planetary matrix of hungry black tissue. And this was why Raven had sent the portal, he had removed me to a pure, uninfected realm so that I could see the vastness of the infection and be a witness to my kind.
And now a terrible vision flickered into my mind. I saw the gleaming Twin Towers and I knew this was early on the morning of September 11. The Twin Towers were still perfectly intact, but surrounding them, massing and swarming around them were pulsating masses of dendrites, entangled concavities of hungry nerve tissue and I knew that the matrix had sent great masses of suctioning tissue to this particular place and time because it knew what was coming, a great, exploding feast of dark energy, a feast of terror about to erupt and I saw dendrites, insidious tendrils of its will perfectly interfaced into the puppet brains of the terrorists so that the matrix actually looked out at the gleaming towers through the eyes of the terrorist pilots, but with its will and ravenous hunger, and it craved with sexual frenzy to rupture those towers, to pop them, to tear into them like a starving, rabid dog tearing into hives full of golden honey, only here the honey was fear, and blood, blood vaporizing in the fiery combustion of exploding jet fuel and as the towers collapsed there was a frenzy of feeding, an imploding vampiric orgasm suctioning blood and terror that pulsated the whole planetary matrix in waves of multiple orgasm.
My whole being trembled as I beheld the Godhead of evil, the face of the archparasitie, the Medusa whose hair of snakes was some early vision of these neurons and dendrites of pulsating evil, but mercifully, I was also seeing this event through Raven's mind and I saw that the matrix was actually being caught in its ravenous greed, in its need for vampiric orgasm, and was revealing itself, revealing the web of evil so that the host was being awakened to its peril, an awakening immunological adaptation was gaining power and the dark matrix itself was imperiled.
A deadly battle was ensuing, the hungry mind of the matrix asserting its dominance over the host, its right to draw blood, its right to feasting explosions, vampiric orgasms of mass terror, but the host was awakening, individual nodes of consciousness achieving glimpses of the shadowy network. And when I had these realizations, a matter of heartbeats, Raven pulled back the veil, the terrible visions dissolved and it was just us standing in the silent mesa.
I took in some deep breaths, feeling the stillness, the peace of the mesa, so removed from the boiling strife, the virulent, predatory infection of my home world.
"We have given you this vision and the orb of Vehrillion Sapphire Elemental so that you may share these gifts with our kind, share them through the web of thinking machines you have so recently manifested. The sleepers must awaken and see the feeding web, they must find the mind within themselves that is stronger than the web mind, the mind of freedom, of energy, of love."

bluestar

15-07-2007, 11:21 AM

Please forgive the length of the earlier posts but feel that for those who are studying this topic it will prove highly informative.

serpentoffire

29-08-2007, 04:38 PM

notaslave

29-08-2007, 05:20 PM

"I'm a vampire" of energy too.

I have given a name of what it is happening to me only recently thanks to David Icke. The first time I saw his video I judged most of concepts bizarre and incredible especially when he talked about reptilians angels. But once I saw a video with a detailed description about reptilians made by an African shaman interviewed by Icke I understood that several topics were correspondent to my symptoms. I started to search on the net until I found an article about serpent of fire aka secret fire or dragon.

http://www.levity.com/alchemy/secret-fire.html

From this I found that the serpent of fire is originated by kundalini and it is well known by Satanist, freemasonry and Indian cultures. From kundalini I found finally the description of chakras and the response to all physical symptoms I had during my life since I was children until now.

http://www.crystalinks.com/chakras.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/kundalini.html

Now I know that I’m not crazy and there are many people sharing my same experiences.

I understood that there are 4 level of enlightenment:
chakras (little vortex, 7 located on the spine and head and 4 located in the hands and foots)
kundalini (a bidirectional flow of energy from first to seven chakra and vice versa)
serpent fire (a burning dragon inside your body)
contact with the guide spirit also known as guardian angel (first telepathic, then physical)I also learned that kundalini gives a double personality. We are sometime "Dr. Jakyll" and sometime "Mr. Hide". Freemasons represents this duality as a black & white floor. We have to find a balance between these personalities.

One of my abilities is also the vampirism. But I don't suck energy intentionally and I need to be aware to whom I stay close, avoiding to acquire pieces of characters not compatible with my self identity. In fact I'm also misogyn.

Only recently I have also experienced new effects more similar to vampire stories a little bit physical:

last time I had to make a blood test I had literally a collapse
I started to be sensible to blood smellhttp://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/newilluminati.jpg

That has got to be one of the most interesting bits of info I have found on this site for a while. I make no secret of what I call my "stress" problem. I can pick up on others mood and other things (mind) very easily. I am a human barometer lol and I have to occasionally avoid people because I "overdose" and it physically hurts.

There is not a substance on this earth that I have come into contact with which will stop it. Alcohol is supposed to relax you but I find it prolongs it.
Considering I have had this for in excess of 12 years I have tried various things all to no avail. I have had various blood tests - nothing wrong with me. I have had my blood pressure measured when I am as I call it "highly stressed" - I have low to normal blood pressure always and did then too, that was a surprise as I have no medical background but would expect a rise in blood pressure when "stressed". But perhaps it isnt stress.

My son was caught up in the tsunami in Thailand a few years ago and I had to get him home, I didnt have money, his plane ticket was lost and the British Embassy was shut blah blah blah. I would count that as high stress but I cope perfectly fine under circumstances like that.

This week I was "stressed" I said fuck it got on a train home still feeling "stressed" and expecting it to worsen but not fighting it anymore and it switched off. Normally it wears off it never switches off suddenly, like that.

But I did something differently which relates to the heart chakra (I did a diploma in colour therapy years ago so knew about the chakras). Will write more on this subject - what I did - after the next time I get "stressed" if it works again.

Thanks for posting.

notaslave

10-09-2007, 03:49 AM

Something happened today which would normally have elicited my "stress" problem, it pissed me off and angered me but it didnt manifest the symptoms I am familiar with since 1994, because again I opened the heart chakra. (as mentioned above)
To understand this more fully in 1994 or around that time I began to notice things were not as I had previously thought. That my entire view of life was wrong, I was wakening up and noticing things. I was 35 /36 at that time. And I developed a "stress" problem then, which I have had until last month, periodically.
I now put this down to imbalance of the heart chakra. Trying to live in two different worlds at the same time. The world we are conditioned to see and the real one. With the real one affecting me emotionally in the conditioned one.
Pains in arms and chest - classic symptoms of stress but they did not go away. I could be "stressed" for weeks on end, which means round the clock pain until it burned out. You go to bed with it and you wake up with it still there in the morning.
Until I found the key the heart chakra. Which is a bit like loving the problem if that makes sense. Instead of being affected by the injustices I had to love them, whilst doing something about it.
Which is probably what David Icke says in Infinite Love - but I havent read it yet.

The Anahatha or Heart Chakra, is located at the heart. Its name means unstuck, fresh, clean unhurt.
It is associated, in the body with the heart, hands, arms and thymus gland, with the element air and the colors green, pink, and rose.
Human Challenge and Gift - to open our hearts to the nonjudgmental, detached vibration of universal love.
Soul Desire - to experience unity, devotion, reverence for life, unattached bonding.
Primal Relationship - with higher spiritual power, our own heart and the hearts of others, the pulse that unites us with the universe.

pillowtalk

03-03-2008, 06:01 PM

"The sorcerers of ancient Mexico were the first ones to see those fleeting shadows, so they followed them around. They saw them as you're seeing them, and they saw them as energy that flows in the universe. And they did discover something transcendental.

They discovered that we have a companion for life...
We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives.

Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so. You have arrived, by your effort alone, to what the shamans of ancient Mexico called the topic of topics. I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner! This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico.

"'Why has this predator taken over in the fashion that you're describing, don Juan?' I asked. 'There must be a logical explanation.'

"'There is an explanation,' don Juan replied, 'which is the simplest explanation in the world. They took over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops. Therefore, their food is always available to them."

"I felt that my head was shaking violently from side to side. I could not express my profound sense of unease and discontentment, but my body moved to bring it to the surface. I shook from head to toe without any volition on my part.

"'No, no, no, no," I heard myself saying. "This is absurd, don Juan. What your saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone." "'Why not?' don Juan asked calmly. 'Why not? Because it infuriates you?' "'Yes, it infuriates me,' I retorted. 'Those claims are monstrous!'

"'I want to appeal to your analytical mind, ' don Juan said. 'Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradiction between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behavior. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of beliefs, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal.'

"'But how can they do this, don Juan?' I asked, somehow angered further by what he was saying. 'Do they whisper all that in our ears while we are asleep?'

"'No, they don't do it that way. That's idiotic!' don Juan said, smiling. 'They are infinitely more efficient and organized than that. In order to keep us obedient and meek and weak, the predators engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver - stupendous, of course, from the point of view of a fighting strategist. A horrendous maneuver from the point of view of those who suffer it. They gave us their mind! Do you hear me? The predators give us their mind, which becomes our mind. The predators' mind is baroque, contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being discovered any minute now.

I know that even though you have never suffered hunger... you have food anxiety, which is none other than the anxiety of the predator who fears that any moment now its maneuver is going to be uncovered and food is going to be denied. Through the mind, which, after all, is their mind, the predators inject into the lives of human beings whatever is convenient for them. And they ensure, in this manner, a degree of security to act as a buffer against their fear.'"

- Carlos Castaneda

Is this quote not rather redundant considering that among many - Carlos Castaneda’s work past the teachings of Don Juan + a separate reality is considered to be a body of fiction, made up in order to keep the publishing house in cash from another New York times best seller ??.

Don’t get me wrong i loved the books !!, but couldn’t help being in agreement with the critics after reading the whole (original) series three times upon hearing some of the arguments ??.....................

I know David used this quote in (i think) the begging of the biggest secret and i had the same thought then !!.

I mean when you have Carol Tiggs wheeling an old man in a hat (that covers most of his face) and a blanket, sitting in a wheel chair - giving seminars on tensegrity at a pretty penny !!!.
When the afore mentioned Tesegrity has been shown to be a mishmash of various Eastern movement based philosophy ??, you have to ask questions, NO ??.

I mean a whole business empire has been built around these books ‘FFS’

Check these people out for a good example.........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBsJzt24J-c&feature=related

Question -- Tensegrity was ‘NOT’ mentioned until when in a Castaneda book ??.
Answers on a post card.

PT.

pillowtalk

05-03-2008, 12:48 PM

The link above keeps going AWOL !!, so here it is.:confused:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBsJzt24J-c&feature=related

PT.

turquoisefyre

02-05-2008, 09:42 PM

"I'm a vampire" of energy too.

do you know of House kheperu (http://www.kheperu.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=Topics&file=index&POSTNUKESID=9d980bc0a939e5d1ae7fe707a91f4f29)?

caution must be taken when investigating matters of vampyrism, energy or not (due to demonic interference), but Michelle Belanger (http://www.michellebelanger.com/)is the safest and most trustworthy bet, imo.

turquoisefyre

02-05-2008, 09:49 PM

oh yeah, and it's probably very wise to stay away from doing rituals (as Icke has mentioned about the Masonic rituals that open you up for demonic posession...)

pillowtalk

05-05-2008, 12:45 PM

Is this quote not rather redundant considering that among many - Carlos Castaneda’s work past the teachings of Don Juan + a separate reality is considered to be a body of fiction, made up in order to keep the publishing house in cash from another New York times best seller ??.

Don’t get me wrong i loved the books !!, but couldn’t help being in agreement with the critics after reading the whole (original) series three times upon hearing some of the arguments ??.....................

I know David used this quote in (i think) the begging of the biggest secret and i had the same thought then !!.

I mean when you have Carol Tiggs wheeling an old man in a hat (that covers most of his face) and a blanket, sitting in a wheel chair - giving seminars on tensegrity at a pretty penny !!!.
When the afore mentioned Tesegrity has been shown to be a mishmash of various Eastern movement based philosophy ??, you have to ask questions, NO ??.

I mean a whole business empire has been built around these books ‘FFS’

PT.

I wasn't presenting Castenada's work as a piece of spiritual knowledge, simply as a relevant fiction. I think that these concepts are so core to our existence that you can find excellent thoughts and much truth expressed through fictional or confabulated accounts.

So there you have it, we get an answer in the end.
Patience is a virtue !!.

PT.

mr jones

13-05-2008, 06:11 PM

maybe its all symtoms of madness.

pillowtalk

13-05-2008, 07:29 PM

maybe its all symtoms of madness.

With a statement that short, having a variation of possible meanings that could be attached, you might want to expand a little on the 6 words you gave us !!.

PT

devolinctus

24-06-2008, 01:29 AM

arnt you all a bit bonkers, if they wanted to r4ule us, they could??

devolinctus

24-06-2008, 01:31 AM

i've seen them, and they arn't threatening

tim the enchanter

24-06-2008, 03:45 PM

i've seen them, and they arn't threatening

HAve you written anything about this on the forum?

devolinctus

25-06-2008, 12:30 AM

ok, since i was young iv'e seen the ones in cloaks, they just stand there looking at you, you are aware that something just happened, but they just stand there doing nothing, then i pass out, but i'm not scared, only one time i was scared, mostly they are about 8 foot, a small one ,hooded also, i felt myself rigid, being pulled across my bad by my leg, hence, the small are very strong, i had a message, not spoken, if you see my face, you will die. obviosly all i could move was my eyeballs, then i blacked out, it shook me quite a bit., a few months ago, a christian friend of mine tried, after hearing what i have seen, told me he was going to "save" me, we were in the passageway of my house, he started speaking in tongues, and claimed to see an reptilian ,about 8 foot tall, freaked me out, i let mormons into my house a little while later, after the fifth visit, i woke and felt discomfort in my back, i asked my mam to take a look at it, my back was covered in scratches, the next time the mormons came i showed then, and they said"wow, cat got to ya?", needless to say, they were told not to visit again, so?, i may be mad ,but i read davids books, and find much common ground, my main concern is that i cannot control this, and i may be one of them, not that i mind, i have miraculosly esaped many things in my life with hindsight, and if they are there, i dont mind them in my life,,,,crazy sounding, but true

tim the enchanter

25-06-2008, 03:54 PM

devolinctus

26-06-2008, 01:25 AM

thanks mate, but i fear it is you that needs the luck

tim the enchanter

26-06-2008, 03:37 PM

thanks mate, but i fear it is you that needs the luck

Now you're sounding like my name sake, Tim the Enchanter (Monty Python's Holy Grail).

Care to elaborate?

devolinctus

27-06-2008, 12:33 AM

tim
i want a shrubbery, nee!!!
seriously, 2012, is the year, davids got it right, i have had confirmation, its not the end of the world literally but what we know now will cease to exist, there will be an event at the olympics that will trigger a chain of events that will lead to confusion in the world, then the end of this cycle will become, this is known to people in power now, as, for their survival, it must happen, i think is what david wants is the avoid this, but it cannot be so. they see us, look at us and many of them cry, pity us that we have not the black knight, NONE SHALL PASS!, tis only a flesh wound

tim the enchanter

28-06-2008, 09:50 AM

devolinctus

28-06-2008, 11:25 PM

well, i'm pretty ugly, but no troll, i have dreamed this thing, so i may be full off it, dunno, i'm just passing it on

devolinctus

01-07-2008, 01:34 AM

hey i replied here, its been removed, shame on those that stifle debate

faithfrequency

24-08-2008, 06:07 PM

I apologize for using this thread to throw these questions out but I'm actually unfamiliar with how forums work.
I know very little about David Icke. I do know that a few years ago when I first heard of him I was very impressed by his intelligence and the logic of what he presented on the web regarding the "Lizzies".
Without going into the how and why I came to this theory, I was wondering if anyone else has heard of this idea or possibility (maybe it's common, lol, I just haven't looked enough).
Ok, here it is: The reason the Bible quotes Jesus Christ telling the goats that he never knew them is because they literally, are not man or from the original creation of man. The Great Intelligence or "God" did not create them. They are genetically the offspring of the original "copy" of man, which came from the serpent in the garden, which was not a serpent at all, but a "man" created by a smaller "god", from serpent DNA.
If nothing else, this removes any possibility of earning anything through works, and puts a whole new spin on everything written in the Bible.
Any related information or thoughts on this theory is much appreciated! Thanks!

tim the enchanter

29-08-2008, 01:15 AM

Some quotes:

Astronaut Edgar Mitchell, Kerrang! radio, 2008 (available on You Tube) -

"Oh yes, there's not much question at all, that there's life throughout the universe. We're not alone in the universe at all."

"And I happen to be privalaged enough to be in on the fact that we have been visited on this planet and that the ufo phenomena is real, altough it has been covered up by our governments for quite a long time."

"Well I can't say how fast it's going to happen, but certainly the public awareness of it is increasing, the public acceptance is increasing. The amount of misinformation, and covert and actual attempts to coverup seem to be decreasing. I think we're heading for real disclosure and some serious organisations moving in that direction."

The interviewer was flustered, stuttering and blown away. He remarked at how unlikely this radio interview seemed, that Edgar Mitchell was telling him all this. Mitchel replied:

"Well that's the first time you've ever talked to me or I would have told you about it before"

The Day the Saucers Came, by Neil Gaiman -

That day, the saucers landed. Hundreds of them, golden,

Silent, coming down from the sky like great snowflakes,

And the people of Earth stood and stared as they descended,

Waiting, dry-mouthed to find what waited inside for us

And none of us knowing if we would be here tomorrow

But you didn't notice it because

That day, the day the saucers came, by some coincidence,

Was the day that the graves gave up their dead

And the zombies pushed up through soft earth

or erupted, shambling and dull-eyed, unstoppable,

Came towards us, the living, and we screamed and ran,

But you did not notice this because

On the saucer day, which was the zombie day, it was

Ragnarok also, and the television screens showed us

A ship built of dead-man's nails, a serpent, a wolf,

All bigger than the mind could hold, and the cameraman could

Not get far enough away, and then the Gods came out

But you did not see them coming because

On the saucer-zombie-battling gods day the floodgates broke

And each of us was engulfed by genies and sprites

Offering us wishes and wonders and eternities

And charm and cleverness and true brave hearts and pots of gold

While giants feefofummed across the land, and killer bees,

But you had no idea of any of this because

That day, the saucer day the zombie day

The Ragnarok and fairies day, the day the great winds came

And snows, and the cities turned to crystal, the day

All plants died, plastics dissolved, the day the

Computers turned, the screens telling us we would obey, the day

Angels, drunk and muddled, stumbled from the bars,

And all the bells of London were sounded, the day

Animals spoke to us in Assyrian, the Yeti day,

The fluttering capes and arrival of the Time Machine day,

You didn't notice any of this because

you were sitting in your room, not doing anything

not even reading, not really, just

looking at your telephone,

wondering if I was going to call.

Gen. Nathan Twining Chief of Staff, US Air Force, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff -

"This 'flying saucer' situation is not at all imaginary or seeing too much in some natural phenomena. Something is really flying around. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious."

Lord Hill-Norton, Chief of Defense Staff, Ministry of Defense, Great Britain, 1973; Chairman, Military Committee of NATO, 1974-77; quoted from his foreword to ;Above Top Secret by Timothy Good, Morrow & Co's Quill Books, 1988 -

"The evidence that there are objects which have been seen in our atmosphere, and even on terra firma, that cannot be accounted for either as man-made objects or as any physical force or effect known to our scientists, seems to me to be overwhelming... A very large number of sightings have been vouched for by persons whose credentials seem to me unimpeachable. It is striking that so many have been trained observers, such as police officers and airline or military pilots. Their observations have in many instances... been supported either by technical means such as radar or, even more convincingly, by... interference with electrical apparatus of one sort or another...."

Charles Fort, Book of the Damned -

"Why don't they ever come here, or send here, openly?"

"Would we, if we could, educate and sophisticate pigs, geese, cattle?

Would it be wise to establish diplomatic relation with the hen that now functions, satisfied with mere sense of achievement by way of compensation?

I think we're property.

I should say we belong to something:

That once upon a time, this earth was No-man's Land, that other worlds explored and colonized here, and fought among themselves for possession, but that now it's owned by something:

That something owns this earth—all others warned off.

Nothing in our own times—perhaps—because I am thinking of certain notes I have—has ever appeared upon this earth, from somewhere else, so openly as Columbus landed upon San Salvador, or as Hudson sailed up his river. But as to surreptitious visits to this earth, in recent times, or as to emissaries, perhaps, from other worlds, or voyagers who have shown every indication of intent to evade and avoid, we shall have data as convincing as our data of oil or coal-burning aerial super-constructions.

But, in this vast subject, I shall have to do considerable neglecting or disregarding, myself. I don't see how I can, in this book, take up at all the subject of possible use of humanity to some other mode of existence, or the flattering notion that we can possibly be worth something.

Pigs, geese, and cattle.

First find out that they are owned.

Then find out the whyness of it.

I suspect that, after all, we're useful—that among contesting claimants, adjustment has occurred, or that something now has a legal right to us, by force, or by having paid out analogues of beads for us to former, more primitive, owners of us—all others warned off—that all this has been known, perhaps for ages, to certain ones upon this earth, a cult or order, members of which function like bellwethers to the rest of us, or as superior slaves or overseers, directing us in accordance with instructions received—from Somewhere else—in our mysterious usefulness.

But I accept that, in the past, before proprietorship was established, inhabitants of a host of other worlds have—dropped here, hopped here, wafted, sailed, flown, motored—walked here, for all I know—been pulled here, been pushed; have come singly, have come in enormous numbers; have visited occasionally, have visited periodically for hunting, trading, replenishing harems, mining: have been unable to stay here, have established colonies here, have been lost here; far-advanced peoples, or things, and primitive peoples or whatever they were: white ones, black ones, yellow ones—

I have a very convincing datum that the ancient Britons were blue ones.

Of course we are told by conventional anthropologists that they only painted themselves blue, but in our own advanced anthropology, they were veritable blue ones-"

Call of Cthulhu, by H.P. Lovecraft -

"The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age."

Terrance Mckenna -

"And imagine the mentality of a Roman aristocrat, a person of power in Roman society. Their physics is drawn from Democritean Atomism - in other words they are thouroughgoing materialists - Their social theory is drawn from Epictetus and Plato. In fact, they are extremely modern people by our own standerds. However, among the gardeners and kitchen help and stable boys
there is news of momenteous a event in the middle east: A Jewish rabbi has triumphed over death and risen after three days in the tomb. Should the master of a roman househould have caught wind of this kind of superstitous talk among the help, he would have just dismissed it with a sneer, "what a preposterous idea" And it is a preposterous idea. Nevertheless, the fact that an idea is preposterous has never held it back from making zealous converts, and after a hundred and twenty years after the birth of the enunciation of Christianity its missionaries were beating on the gates of Rome attempting to convert the emporer. Now, I see a similar situation in the modern context, that rationalism, scientific technology, which began, which came out of the scholasticism of the middle ages, and the quite legitimate wish to glorify god through an appreciation of His natural world, turned into a kind of demonic pact, a kind of descent into the underworld, a mechaea if you will, leading to the current cultural and politcal impasse, whch involves massive stockpiles of atomic weapons, huge propagandized polulations cut off from any knowledge of their real histories, male dominated organisations plying their message of letal destruction and inevetible historical advance. And into this situation comes suddenly an anomaly, something which cannot be explained. I believe that is the purpose of the UFO, to inject uncertainty into the male dominated, paternalistic, rational solar myth under which we are suffering. So, I suppose, if you had to catagorize this point of view you would say I'm taking a depth psychologic, analytic point of view. What I'm saying is that the UFO is nothing more than an insertion of herself, by the Goddess into History, saying to science, to male, paternalistic organisations, "you have gone far enough. We are going to turn the world upside down. your science is going to be shown up for what it is, nothing more than a pleasant metaphor usuefully extrapolated into the production of toys for healthy children", that's what "science" is good for"

Jung -

"Show me a sane man and I will cure him for you."

Arthur C. Clark's Three Laws -

1. When a distinguished but elderly scientist states that something is possible, he is almost certainly right. When he states that something is impossible, he is very probably wrong.
2. The only way of discovering the limits of the possible is to venture a little way past them into the impossible.
3. Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.

Dragons of Eden, Carl Sagan -

"If the dinosaurs had had a space program, they would not be extinct."

tim the enchanter

05-09-2008, 04:13 AM

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/6142/

tracker

14-09-2008, 03:59 AM

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/6142/

this thread is kicking .:D

curly

08-10-2008, 12:06 AM

just read chapter 6 on jamescasbolt.com,nice picture of a dead reptilian in there worth having a look at,makes for an interesting read.i like this guys stuff

lehcyfer

25-11-2008, 01:02 PM

How does one vanquish the predator?

As it was written before, you do it through a discipline.

Now "What is a discipline?" one may ask. The answer is - a discipline is not ascetism - it is not depriving oneself of sleep, pouring cold water on ones head or any such stuff.

Discipline is doing the thing that needs most to be done at the given moment. And the thing is the one that you don't want to do the most. The mere thinking about doing it makes you think you'll puke. You do all kind of stuff just to not to think about it.

The reason for this is simple. The predator feeds of your layer of consciousness. You're already eaten up and all that is left is a little bit at the bottom, where there is concentrated all self-consciousness. Predator gives us ego-feeding stupid thoughts and desires (for example a desire for a new shiny sport car) which we explore and doing so we make the layer to grow a little. The predator then munches the freshly grown bit away, and we are left with ashen feeling - "Is that all there is to it?"

When we do the things that we know we must do, the bit of consciousness that grows is not tasty for the predator. He can't devour it! The feeling of having to puke comes from it's mind - it knows that when you'll do the thing that you have to do he will not be able to devour it.

So, ask yourself - "is the thing that I'm doing the thing that I have to do, or am I doing it to have excuse to not to do the most important thing?" And do the thing that the mere thinking of having to do it makes you think you're going to puke.

Endure it and you'll find that when you'll do it, you'll feel great, full of energy and triumphant, wibrating with life. For the predator will not be able to devour the untasty for him energy that you acquired.

Make it a habit, do always the things that the universe is putting before you, and your predator will finally weaken from hunger and fall off of you, your cocoon of consciousness will regrow to it's maximum size and the powers that we were destinied to have will be yours.

For we are magnificent magical beings in multidimensional magical world, only through becoming prey for the predators we've fallen to this mere meatbag we are now.

You do it through discipline, man!

Make him puke :D

drakul

25-11-2008, 02:32 PM

As it was written before, you do it through a discipline.

Now "What is a discipline?" one may ask. The answer is - a discipline is not ascetism - it is not depriving oneself of sleep, pouring cold water on ones head or any such stuff.

Discipline is doing the thing that needs most to be done at the given moment. And the thing is the one that you don't want to do the most. The mere thinking about doing it makes you think you'll puke. You do all kind of stuff just to not to think about it.

The reason for this is simple. The predator feeds of your layer of consciousness. You're already eaten up and all that is left is a little bit at the bottom, where there is concentrated all self-consciousness. Predator gives us ego-feeding stupid thoughts and desires (for example a desire for a new shiny sport car) which we explore and doing so we make the layer to grow a little. The predator then munches the freshly grown bit away, and we are left with ashen feeling - "Is that all there is to it?"

When we do the things that we know we must do, the bit of consciousness that grows is not tasty for the predator. He can't devour it! The feeling of having to puke comes from it's mind - it knows that when you'll do the thing that you have to do he will not be able to devour it.

So, ask yourself - "is the thing that I'm doing the thing that I have to do, or am I doing it to have excuse to not to do the most important thing?" And do the thing that the mere thinking of having to do it makes you think you're going to puke.

Endure it and you'll find that when you'll do it, you'll feel great, full of energy and triumphant, wibrating with life. For the predator will not be able to devour the untasty for him energy that you acquired.

Make it a habit, do always the things that the universe is putting before you, and your predator will finally weaken from hunger and fall off of you, your cocoon of consciousness will regrow to it's maximum size and the powers that we were destinied to have will be yours.

For we are magnificent magical beings in multidimensional magical world, only through becoming prey for the predators we've fallen to this mere meatbag we are now.

You do it through discipline, man!

Make him puke :D

OK OK I'll clean the toilet AND the shower!

lehcyfer

25-11-2008, 03:15 PM

OK OK I'll clean the toilet AND the shower!

And then go to your lady with a smile and say "I just cleaned the toilet and the shower. Is there anything else you would like me to do now?"

jonnyinfinite

01-12-2008, 03:34 AM

on TV now?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=bghGOfJZLOM&feature=related