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phreedom
09-01-2008, 01:31 PM
I ask this question for a number of reasons.

The first is as follows:

The division of people through the use of concepts (nationalism, different religions, etc) has always been a prime method employed to pit one group of humans against another. The establishment of one "Supreme" state would dilute at least one form of human division.

In essence, Americans don't typically fight Americans, or Germans against fellow countrymen. Disputes often arise from other identifiers. Blacks versus whites, jews versus muslim, but none of these "groups" quarrel saying that one is truly American and the other, not. However, to this day, we see governmental disputes such as North Korea vs. South Korea or India against Pakistan.

If all countries united under one flag, then we would have acheived the dilution of one form of dispute that can easily influence HUGE masses of humans against one another.


A Second Reason I ask this question is as follows:

The only valid (from my point of view) arguments that have arisen "against" a "one world government" deal with how it will be acheived. Many say that the 9-11 "conspiracy" was a ploy to allow the one world government to come into fruition. If this is indeed the case, our arguments against a one world state should be directed at the MEANS for the end but not against the end itself.

The Third Reason I ask this question is as follows:

Under a government that knows no borders the world will finally be free to develop spiritually. Family, Faith and Country are the conepts that rung in the ears of men for so long prior to this, the communication age. No longer worrying about "country" will relinquish one more worry that dominates social consciousness. It won't be the British economy or the American economy anymore. It will be the world economy, everywhere. The military will no longer employ millions. Sure, there will be police, but only for the purposes of social management. Humans will be able to freely focus on what they want to focus on; Their family (fellow humans) and their Faith (their inner spiritual development).

My final thoughts:

The deletion of nationalistic pride will pave the way for further developments of the consciousness of humanity. Huge amounts of social expenses will no longer go towards homeland defense (offense) and security and instead will be funnelled into social programs that will only benefit the "people." One of the roadblocks to true human awareness and mental freedom will be broken down. What the next roadblock will be is still a question, but I don't think we will be able to tackle it until we get rid of this, the first of many, the concept that my country is better than yours because we have a better government and more money. When these conceptually driven borders are destroyed and the world is united under one "state" and we realize that we are of and on this Earth, we will be allowed to move onto the next conceptual roadblock to our spiritual and social ascension...

cruise4
09-01-2008, 11:42 PM
Imagine if the whole world had bought into Hitler instead of just Germany (I know thats slightly simplistic). Nations act as Firewalls for all sorts of things.

"The division of people through the use of concepts"

It would be more accurate to say:
The division of people through the use of propoganda, lies and manipulation. If you accept this then all your other ideas are moot.

Your post would make a NWO bilderberger proud!

johngr
10-01-2008, 12:33 AM
Dude! You might as well go on Stormfront and ask if blacks are all that bad.

adzboarder
10-01-2008, 12:33 AM
I agree a New World Order could be a good thing but NOT one controlled by insane lunatics which is what we are on the brink of.

drael
10-01-2008, 09:28 AM
yes :D

adimon
10-01-2008, 09:44 AM
I'd say that regardless of whether it would be good or bad, it's something which no nation wants. It's not just existing divisions which prevent it, but much deeper tribal instincts IMO.

ichi wa zen
14-01-2008, 05:29 PM
Ok, what you are saying is:

Is killing, murdering, sacrificing, lying and tons of more evil deeds not all that bad if its going to get us an one world government?

YES, IT IS VERY BAD AND EVIL AND IGNORANT AND ALL OF THESE AT THE SAME TIME.

free_soul
14-01-2008, 06:48 PM
hi phreedom :)

can i explain why i dont want one gouverment.
number 1 is hitler i already hate the fact that hitlers family (or part of the interbred bastards rather large family).
I like the thought of people will e able to develop spiritualy and probably would if the people who would be running the world are the same people showing through media that the whole spiritual thing is bull.

i wish the wars would end too but the war on terror will always be there as the elite seem to feed off of fear so there will always be terrorists (maybe not actuly real ones like 9/11 ,who one of them rang up the national security and say "im alive", lmao

:):)

dmessick
14-01-2008, 07:09 PM
Yes a one world govt is bad! A single entity that controls a mass of people, controls a military, and controls the commerce game will absolutely control your private and public life. That is what they call a monopoly folks. Were you using your head when you thought that a one world govt would be good? I'll never understand why people need a big brother that tells them what to do, how they should live and then charge you for that service through taxation and regulation. WTF! Why can't we all just take care of our damn selves. I enjoy my private life and can take care of my own private affairs, commercially or otherwise. Do we really need a govt to survive? I don't think so. Remember that there is more of us than there is of them. :)

thirdwave
14-01-2008, 09:20 PM
the bad thing is not the case of having 1 government... its having no choice.... and also knowing that this one government is controlled by other people who do not have the same agenda as the rest of the world...