What does everybody do?

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I know, I haven't been here in ages. Been really busy and such.

Anyways, no beating around the bush.

What do you all do in your 'offline lives'?

I work as a sys-admn at a security/liquity organization in Amsterdam.

In the weekends, I game, grab coffee (by my self) and read... ALOT!

Plus, if you can't tell, I'm a huge supporter of Open Source/ Open Art and Anarchism...

And I will forever stick to my favorite name..

H1s L0rdsh1p
:)

[markhowie]

Aloha
i enjoy life now after a long struggle

i can make enything out of wood, houses, games, doors,windows, stairs, anything i want to i realy enjoy it and even get my oral-bio suvival tickets with it

i enjoy meeting people, i love to dance, i love to sing,
ride my bike, i have a long distance VTC (geant) when i ride of for a few weeks around the montains and now since i stoped smoking the brown weed iv got myself a racing bike, carbon-framed (willier) this country is fantatic for rideing (le tour de france) non motorised sort of like preparing for after the age of the black-gack petrol
i have until just a couple of weeks ago worked with a local assosiative radio station (for a few years) i was telling people of what was going on out there beyond all the illusions, but that just seemed to scare them, im probaly going to do a positve news program this summer
that is good fun
i have spent the last 20 years bringing up my daughters mostly on my own, that is a big learning experience, the kids are teachers, if only we can listen...
i love swimming, there are lakes here
i shoot my bows and arrows, my laterst bow a 60 pound hunting bow (it is to stong for me, im actualy looking for a 45 to 50 pound maybee an exchange, mine is a hand made martin)
i read lots , i started to give conferences, do collective positve creative work, i love to help people, my door is often open,
in fact i love to love to be loved

thanks ( im shure i missed some out there, this is the current present life-doing, singing my song of life stuff)

i havent watched telly for 30 years, i dont seem to find the time, oh-well (not orwell) :D

love to all
mark

[ho1ogram]

Anyways, no beating around the bush.

What do you all do in your 'offline lives'?

What? There's life beyond sortin' through this stuff? Hmmm.... well, you learn something new everyday. I'll log off and see what's out there and get back to ya!
Cheers
h. :)

*edit* - oh yeah, hislordship, where is your signature quote from? I like it.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

What? There's life beyond sortin' through this stuff? Hmmm.... well, you learn something new everyday. I'll log off and see what's out there and get back to ya!
Cheers
h. :)

*edit* - oh yeah, hislordship, where is your signature quote from? I like it.

LOL
Fair enough..

It's from the book Ishmael. But that's only the last part. The entire quote is:

"There's nothing fundamentally wrong with people. Given a story to enact that puts them in accord with the world, they will live in accord with the world. But given a story to enact that puts them at odds with the world, as yours does, they will live at odds with the world. Given a story to enact, in which they are the lords of the world, they will act as the lords of the world. And, given a story to enact in which the world is a foe to be conquered they will conquer it like a foe, and one day, inevitably, their foe will lie bleeding to death at their feet, as the world is now."

It's a great book, check it out some time. ;)

[lumukanda]

i used to work as an assistant director on film sets, but i gave that up, too crazy, now i've got an office job at a courier company.

[ho1ogram]

Hey, waddaya know, I do have time for other stuff.

Surf (well, used to, not much anymore); fight fires with a volunteer brigade (I've been questioning our approach to wild fire, hence my interest in hislordships signature); try hard writer of fiction; occasional reporter for local rags; casual labourer; student enrolled in editing and writing; dreamer; reader; walker; bullshitter.

Thanks for the book tip boss, uh, I mean, hislordship..*bows gracefully, and exits through servants hole*
:)

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Hey, waddaya know, I do have time for other stuff.

Surf (well, used to, not much anymore); fight fires with a volunteer brigade (I've been questioning our approach to wild fire, hence my interest in hislordships signature); try hard writer of fiction; occasional reporter for local rags; casual labourer; student enrolled in editing and writing; dreamer; reader; walker; bullshitter.

Thanks for the book tip boss, uh, I mean, hislordship..*bows gracefully, and exits through servants hole*
:)

LMAO
Get off my dick! You surf? KICKASS!
I haven't surfed since I was 14. I miss it :(

[phoenix1]

Me ?? when i'm not flying to the Heart of Sun and Back...I am a full time carer for my Mum, who dont see too good...she is a conspiracy nut like us too...at age 78, she sees it all from experience of history.

Also I make online money...in my own time...when I want to , not when anyone else wants me too....Take a tea break when I feel like it.

I gotta have my freedom hit daily.

No Gods No Masters...Nice.:D

[thirdwave]

Me ?? when i'm not flying to the Heart of Sun and Back...I am a full time carer for my Mum, who dont see too good...she is a conspiracy nut like us too...at age 78, she sees it all from experience of history.

Also I make online money...in my own time...when I want to , not when anyone else wants me too....Take a tea break when I feel like it.

I gotta have my freedom hit daily.

No Gods No Masters...Nice.:D

I know what you mean....

As you know I have my music which is taking me on a journey but I have always looked for work where I can work the time I want to.... as it stands I am lucky and have a job working where my bro works ...a Freight company where I have my own space to get the work done and can take time off to record and so on....

[phoenix1]

I know what you mean....

As you know I have my music which is taking me on a journey but I have always looked for work where I can work the time I want to.... as it stands I am lucky and have a job working where my bro works ...a Freight company where I have my own space to get the work done and can take time off to record and so on....

Yeah the misic is cool too TW, I reckon you'll cut a deal soon, you where good when I first met ya, you can only me a whole lot better now dude.
I really hope that groove gets together for ya.

Cool that ta got another place where noone is lording it over you too eh ??

I never couls hold a job down for long..I always got told I had a "BAD" Attitude....LALALALALALAL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Laterz

P1

:) :D

[ho1ogram]

Oh I get it now, you have to work in freight/courier to be a mod around here. *pssst.. everyone, it's another conspiracy*

Hey boss, what does LMAO mean? If it is what I just thought of then, please don't answer. (unless you look like my girlfriend, I've got avatars switched off so I can't see).

Yep, used to surf heaps, slowed down a bit these days, have a new board to pick up this week though, so shall get back into it.

Phoenix - a conspiracy nut for a mum hey? Half ya luck. My mum's just a nut.

[mara of the acoma]

"Offline life" - what is this strange syntax? :D

Well your lordship, I don't have a paid job and am currently nursing at the breast of the State. I am mum to a 10 year old girl and I'm studying Web Design, Development and Programming at home. I'm also someone's girlfriend. If there's any spare time after all that I love to watch good movies (not tv), read and go to raves. I also paint, take photographs and write the odd poem.

Things I want to do after I get my certification are start my own business, plant a vegetable garden, travel to Arizona, Mexico, China and Egypt.

[pollock]

I always had a hard time staying satisfied in one job, and I just don't have any respect for authority (authority by name that is), witch has made me quit more than one job on the spur of the moment. So Ive had just about every job you can get without higher education (I just never saw the point in that).
Then about five years ago I lived in Stockholm and was working as a croupier (blackjack, roulette) in nightclubs, I tell you if you want to see the lesser side of humans, stand around sober in a club for 7-12 hours in a row, Im lucky I snapped out of it when I did. (another intervention from whatever has been protecting me all my life or just me coming to my sences I dont know)
When I realised what I was doing I started thinking very hard about what I really wanted in life (physically) and came to this conclution:

I wanted to have children, something I had been trying to tell myself for a long time that I didnt want because of how the world looks, how people are and all those bad excuses. I realized it was my duty (not talking about anyone else here just me) to to bring at least one child into this world that I could teach the importance of our excistance and who could bring us some hope for our future. I feel that if we really want to change things we should all have about 100 kids each and raise them truthfully!

I wanted a honourable and strongminded father for these kids, someone who shared my ideals and someone who could challange me with his own. I had been involved with too many people for the wrong reasons, friends as well as lovers, I wanted an honest relationship without the ego bullshit.

I wanted to get away from cities, they totally kill my enthusiasm and drive, it had gotten so bad I had taken to wearing a walkman with loud music (anything as long as I didnt have to hear the cars and shit) and not to ever look anyone in the face ( I think I am hyper sencitive in some ways, because I very easily pick up others vibes and it is really bothersome in a big town where almost everyone is either depressed or angry). This was awfull, I love the sence of "connecting" with my surroundings, I dont know if others can do this but if the vibes coming of something are strong enough I can tell what it is with my eyes closed, and to shut this abillity of caused me to have attacks of migrene headaches. At least I think this was the reason for them, Ive never had any before or after, although some people tend to give me minor aches if they are too "strung out".

I literally quit my job (after 3 years) from one minute to the other, one evening as I was setting up the tables I just couldnt do it, it felt as if I didnt get out of there I would go nuts, so I put everything away, called my boss told him I was sorry but he would have to find someone else to do the job, I didnt wait for an answer just hung up and ran out of there!
I got myself another job, cleaning kindergardens after closing (lovely, just me my mop and a childish atmosphere) and started visualising ( i didnt know thats what I was doing at the time though) the things that I did want. Three months later I went with my sister on vacation to Denmark, I met a n old ex from ten years earlier, it took two days and we where soulmates for ever.

Now five years later I live in the countryside, although in denmark you are never further than a kilometre from the nearest neighbor or road (I can still hear cars and I try not to let this bother me) we have a fantastic loving son witch I with delight and honour stay home and take care of, a webdesign company that my man successfully runs from home and a goal of getting a peice of land in a remote area (far away from noicepollution) on witch to build our castle and live in harmony with nature.

woops this became a "how did you end up doing what you are doing" explanation, feel free to ignore the long blabber!

In short, Im a happy housewife!

Love
F

[thirdwave]

Yeah the misic is cool too TW, I reckon you'll cut a deal soon, you where good when I first met ya, you can only me a whole lot better now dude.
I really hope that groove gets together for ya.

Cool that ta got another place where noone is lording it over you too eh ??

I never couls hold a job down for long..I always got told I had a "BAD" Attitude....LALALALALALAL HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Laterz

P1

:) :D

thanks dude

..mmm there is a fine line between a bad attitude and a sence of understanding the value of freedom and respect....

When you have this outlook people spot it and take it as a "bad attitude" or "arrogant" , they don't even contemplate that they are morally wrong and consumed by bullshit.

im not saying there is anything wrong with working hard.... but its that whole "if there is nothing to do pretend to look busy bullshit" ..like Bill Hicks says... your the boss with the imagination, you pretend I'm doing something!... its crazy how people judge people by their job.. the thing they have done just to earn money..... what a way to judge a person!, based on the outcome of a forced need for money, its all slavery, don't matter what uniform you are wearing and the money money you earn the less thoughts you have for your self....

[unicorn]

Hi Peeps,

After working my ass off in bulls**t jobs I am finally self employed as a healer & teacher, & my beloved co-workers are my 4 horses who are the master healers, with me as translator.

I also do a sort of 'reprogramming' healing where I clear the cellular & emotional memory from the cells of the body so that the body can heal itself again, & I teach this too, from home.

So getting out then to work with my horses is the perfect balance, I also teach horse whispering, but mainly myself & the horses guide people to be able to lead themselves again, cutting through the bull & getting to their truth.

A dream come true! Learning the skill of manifesting my highest dreams & divine mission, & loving it!! :p

[quelyn]

:eek: :confused: I retired "early" from education where I was a teacher and then Resource Specialist. The caseload was normal, born addicted, autistic, emotionally disturbed, learning disabled, low cognitive and many other labels. Children are still a gift BUT the school politics not my cup of tea. FREEDOM

Now, I am an equine masseuse and helper with burro/mule rides for children. This is a $ supplement for ever emerging opportunities to work with horses.

The most amazing offline life is continuing to work on me.................the truth is out there!:p

[hagbard_celine]

I'm a hospital porter.

I'm bloody proud of it too and it pisses me of when people come up to me and ask me if I've ever thought about getting a better job. I'm an essential member of a life-saving team. It's only convention that places status on some jobs and not others.

[unicorn]

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/13032007/397/whale-kills-rescue-attempt-fisherman-0.html
Hi Quelyn, looks like we share the same passion! Horses have many gifts for humans & we are finally learning to listen to them!! :)

[unicorn]

oops guys, pasted the wrong thing on the above post... was replying about the opportunities of work with horses... :rolleyes:

[notaslave]

LOL

I strongly related to an entry above I cant stay in paid employment working for others too. I generally am not good with rules, I even bend some of my own. (which are guidelines as all rules are LOL)

I have done a myriad of jobs but the best was when I run my own company (when I was still married). I make for a good boss I find LOL However I have done all sorts from office work to being a cheap machine in a factory. I have walked out of several jobs and got suspended for rule bending in one. I apparently stole time. 10 minutes to be exact.

Currently I work voluntary in my community on two local committees. I find one of them money - something I am not good at doing for myself. Lack of interest. I am gaining an education. Will go back into formal education later this year and get my degree.

I will probably become self employed again since I am the only one I can work for and I do prefer it.

But life is journey not a destination.

[phoenix1]

thanks dude

..mmm there is a fine line between a bad attitude and a sence of understanding the value of freedom and respect....

When you have this outlook people spot it and take it as a "bad attitude" or "arrogant" , they don't even contemplate that they are morally wrong and consumed by bullshit.

im not saying there is anything wrong with working hard.... but its that whole "if there is nothing to do pretend to look busy bullshit" ..like Bill Hicks says... your the boss with the imagination, you pretend I'm doing something!... its crazy how people judge people by their job.. the thing they have done just to earn money..... what a way to judge a person!, based on the outcome of a forced need for money, its all slavery, don't matter what uniform you are wearing and the money money you earn the less thoughts you have for your self....

Yep I see things in this light too...I've always lived on the knife edge...with all aspects of my life..
Looking busy..eh ?? what a pile of utter pap..Been there seen it , ripped up the T shirt many moons back LOL..

Bill Hicks (respect) was allways on the ball with his angle on life...like he said...Life is Just a Ride...

Ive always walked the fine line...and run on it too, I gotta do it..dunno why...its just the mental guy I am , I have never been fired from a job really (id get myself fired..on purpose)...reason I couldn't hold one down..is or was always the arrogant bread head production production production...over quality of time. attitude ...feeding an insatiable machine.It didn't take long to work this out...and opt out...

I've always thought the final insult comes when ....you get to retirement age....after a wasted life....you have become the machine....and the reward is a candy coated,sweety studded chocolate wrist watch..that melts away on your fettered wrist......to watch the remaining seconds of your remaining life tick away on. They at that point have stolen the best days of your entire life...and by then you may still have a braincell left...with the capacity to realise............you've been cheated.

Phoenix

[midwich cuckoo]

Me ?? when i'm not flying to the Heart of Sun and Back...I am a full time carer for my Mum,

Snap :)

My mum has a prolactinoma (tumour of the pituitary gland). This causes a wide range of symptoms from severe mood swings to temporary sight loss, worst of all she tends to pass out regularly so I have to be there 24/7 for her, while my dad goes out to work, he prefers it that way, even though he has had 3 strokes in the past 5 years. Hate to say it but we are dreading if he has a big stroke and I'll probably end up caring for him too.

And snap again!. My mum is also a "conspiracy nut" :D And has been saying the same kind of things as David Icke even before we had heard of him!.

[phoenix1]

Snap :)

My mum has a prolactinoma (tumour of the pituitary gland). This causes a wide range of symptoms from severe mood swings to temporary sight loss, worst of all she tends to pass out regularly so I have to be there 24/7 for her, while my dad goes out to work, he prefers it that way, even though he has had 3 strokes in the past 5 years. Hate to say it but we are dreading if he has a big stroke and I'll probably end up caring for him too.

And snap again!. My mum is also a "conspiracy nut" :D And has been saying the same kind of things as David Icke even before we had heard of him!.

Snap ,Crackle and Pop then Midwich Cuckoo, I'm so sorry to hear that , I'm the same 24/7...Mum Partially sighted...but still a ripper...at 78...took her to Turkey jetskiing and doing Ephesus June 06, loved it..and did Egypt ..and Cairo in February 06...still lovin it and planning on going to maybe India soon.

Its a whole lot tougher on you innit, and I do know how you feel ...because I do it too. I lost my Dad to cancer when I was 8...well im 42 now..and love my mum so much I cannot contemplate life with her not in it.

I ain't no Mummys boy or nothing....i'm a conspiracy nut Biker...(retired due to loss of liscence for the moment....due to the infinite wisdom of the police...not knowing I can aquit myself well on fast metal and carbon fibre, and supersticky tyres, on the Norh Wales roads, where I used to worship at the Alter of Lean LOL)

But folk like us..with all the love we have been shown...it is only right to pay it back in a purely cool respective way...over the years...before David Icke ever wrote a sports script...we have allways been de-constructing ideas on life. My grandad was in this mode too, in 1914..he was allready well advanced in yogic study..and thankfully I take after my mums side with her dad. Sadly missed, when I was 2.

I have found this situation in my life more fulfilling than any job could ever do for me.

We are trancending life together on the high path..the only thing that comes naturally to me, and two my mum...we have a fanastic telepathic "headset connection too) faster than any broadband dual core LOL.

Just downed your viewer for a look ...cheers for that.

I hope things don't get any more hectic for you...and KNOW that faith in the ALL ONE goes a long way to aid the flow of all life.

Yeah...I pray to the Scource..and I pray to myself, and to the Guardians of our lifeforce to help out...and do you know what ...it gets results.

I ask every day for the good people and energies to manifest around us..and I kinda draw people into my life in this way.

I drew a healer called Mona from Beirut..Lebanon...and we tap into her reiki power well, mums signt has in fact improved ..to some fair degree..by tapping into the innate with Mona.

If ya want this fine Ladys website and free healing to help you...then drop me a PM...and i'll post you her site.Tell her Phoenix sent ya ..she knows me from the Old Forum...which I asked her to join.

I'll have to clue her up on this one ..too.

I talk to her pretty reular..and with all the problems she has in Lebanon..she still finds the time to set light in the world.

Much Respect

Phoenix :)

[neondestiny]

I started work as a shoe salesperson when I was 15, got pregnant with my first child, had to quit work there (health related) Then when my daughter was a little older got into the hospitality industry.
Worked in that area for a lot of years at one point 2 back to back barjobs.
My second child came along and hospitality no longer fit in with my new little family so I left.
Then I was invited to work online as a psychic/medium for many years through a wonderful lady who has now passed. I call her my "spirit mum" she was more like a mum to me than a boss.
Now my third child has come along, I still occasionally do free readings for people mostly in my home area through word of mouth, but I also have my own business creating and selling my artwork which takes up a lot of my time.
Of all I have done in my life, my favourite pastime and job is being a mum, this is the job I have always found to be the most trying and the most rewarding :)

[deca]

I work now part time stacking shelves on evnings no hassel full time dad to my six year old. Going through a messy devorce. My life a bit of a mess at the moment. I used to love computers making music,doing graphics,programming and playing games.Worked in the bar trade for over 10 years pubs and clubs.
Just trying to get throu Day by Day.The last 3 years has been a living hell I hope the next years will be better. I have found some people who are going throu what I am and hopefully we will ge together and put an end of this maddness so Hopeful I will be getting more active and informative.

[domtak]

I own a design / web design company. We try to keep away from the corps but it's inevitable... so forgive me! ;)

I do enjoy every minute I work, and that's all I can ask for. I'm shaping my own future (partially)

Dom

[paulski]

The last 3 years has been a living hell I hope the next years will be better. I have found some people who are going throu what I am and hopefully we will ge together and put an end of this maddness so Hopeful I will be getting more active and informative.


Stick in there man, it may take a little time, but you will come through, trust me, I've been in a similar situation and although couldn't possibly say I fully understand yours personally, but I always went with the view that God-mind would never give me something that I couldn't cope with.


Oh I'm a criminal justice worker, as you can imagine I work with those involved in the criminal justice system and I do work with just about everyone and every crime committed.

[oneofmany]

At the moment I stay at home to look after my son Ryan, who you can see in my avatar. My better half has stayed working as she has a fulltime job at a Hospital wheras I am a qualified carpenter and joiner who has no overlord standing over me anymore, but work has never quite been fulltime anyway. I've tried sub contracting, but the work is never permanent and after a while I always have to look for more work. I got qualified because I dispise working for other people so now I'm saving up for a table saw, wood lathe and a few other Items so I can start my jewellery box buisness online, but with only one income coming in this is proving difficult as our plan is once Ryan goes of to doctrination(school) I can move my buisness into full time action.

I just want to give my son the best start he could possibly have

[eyedontbelieveu]

Semiconductor; If you've seen the Scorsese film The Departed, then you saw the corporation. I don't love what I do so its more of a short term thing than what I consider my career. Something about knowing that the majority of these chips are utilized for maiming and killing innocent civilians around the world plays a big part in it. The main reason is I just don't enjoy having to spend that much time around 85 percenters.

Other than that I am a full-time single father of one, for now.

[tru3]

I'm bloody proud of it too and it pisses me of when people come up to me and ask me if I've ever thought about getting a better job. I'm an essential member of a life-saving team. It's only convention that places status on some jobs and not others.

i own an interior design firm. i'm basically chief cook and bottle washer; do the books, deliveries, install blinds and window treatments, you name it. i've even done worked for some clients. my wife is the "rain maker". ;)

i have a little game i've learned to play. when i deliver furniture, i get sweaty, got my dungarees and pendleton shirt on, and just do my job. people really don't pay attention; i'm just the second guy on the delivery team.

if my wife is there, she will introduce me as her husband and co-partner in the firm, they totally change their demeanor, like i've magically become somebody they should pay attention to. i get a kick out of comparing their demeanor before and after.

this doesn't happen all the time, but it happens often enough that i'm convinced most people never see each other, truly. so many missed opportunities to be alive because of things that, on their deathbed, mean nothing.

in the city where i live, it's mostly about image; a beemer and an suv in the driveway, an overly large house in an overdeveloped subdivision, and the kids are sleeping on box springs upstairs. there are many couples who passively aggressively use "the decorating" as a way to air power and money grievances. really, the most fascinating thing about this business to me is what people value; men want the power boat, women want new carpet, and taste is completely subjective. most people are completely unable to articulate what it is that they want. and secretly, deep down, it seems that some of our clients really don't feel they deserve a beautiful home, or maybe fixing up the home can fix up a fractured relationship. one year, we had three couples separate during or right after a project.

was it something i said???

yes, join me, true, on trading spaces for "home decorating: the untold story!" :D

[limelady]

I tru,

We own a designer landscaping business in one of Australia's more exclusive real estate areas, and its all about image here too. Boy, some of the domestic 'problems' we have encountered while landscaping the properties of some of these wealthy folk would make you smile.....and I agree, these seemingly shallow people who can nip-pick over what colour pot best suits their garden....for 3 days straight thinking little else) don't seem to be very happy, despite their money. What makes us laugh at times is the way some of them perceive EVERYBODY who does contract work for them....they speak to them as though they are riff-raff they feel they can order round and treat like 'lower creatures'. We play a bit of a game with these ones and make them wait the longest! Most of them are actually PIG ignorant of just about everything other than which wine to drink with dinner and which stylist or cosmetic surgeon is the current 'flavour of the day'.

They make us laugh....what else can you do! :D

[hagbard_celine]

i own an interior design firm. i'm basically chief cook and bottle washer; do the books, deliveries, install blinds and window treatments, you name it. i've even done worked for some clients. my wife is the "rain maker". ;)

i have a little game i've learned to play. when i deliver furniture, i get sweaty, got my dungarees and pendleton shirt on, and just do my job. people really don't pay attention; i'm just the second guy on the delivery team.

if my wife is there, she will introduce me as her husband and co-partner in the firm, they totally change their demeanor, like i've magically become somebody they should pay attention to. i get a kick out of comparing their demeanor before and after.

this doesn't happen all the time, but it happens often enough that i'm convinced most people never see each other, truly. so many missed opportunities to be alive because of things that, on their deathbed, mean nothing.

in the city where i live, it's mostly about image; a beemer and an suv in the driveway, an overly large house in an overdeveloped subdivision, and the kids are sleeping on box springs upstairs. there are many couples who passively aggressively use "the decorating" as a way to air power and money grievances. really, the most fascinating thing about this business to me is what people value; men want the power boat, women want new carpet, and taste is completely subjective. most people are completely unable to articulate what it is that they want. and secretly, deep down, it seems that some of our clients really don't feel they deserve a beautiful home, or maybe fixing up the home can fix up a fractured relationship. one year, we had three couples separate during or right after a project.

was it something i said???

yes, join me, true, on trading spaces for "home decorating: the untold story!" :D

Did you know that rates of depression and suicide are far higher among the very rich; several times the national average, and it makes no difference whether you were born into wealth or not? It makes sense: To us it's still a dream, a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. But imagine you'd struggled all your life, done terrible, shameful things and sacrificed everything to reach that pot of gold... only to find it empty. How horrible!

Our copnventional society tells us that being materially rich is The One Goal of life, the Alpha and Omega, the secular Heaven. We are conditioned to believe that there is absolutely nothing else worth living for. So when you've got there and you find it's not the paradise our society tells us it is, and you still feel unfulfulled and empty inside, what do you do? According to convention there is nothing you can do, nowhere to go. You've achieved everything that convention says you're meant to strive for. result: Despair and subsequently depression.

The cure is the understanding that material welth is an illusion. it can be enjoyed, so long as you understand how illusiary it is; then your life finds an escape rout; a path to new and greater things. There are some rich people who are lucky enough to have learned this lesson... but I hear they don't teach it at business college! Until they do more and more victims of obsessive materialism are going to end up dead or in hospital.

[oneofmany]

I tru,

We own a designer landscaping business in one of Australia's more exclusive real estate areas, and its all about image here too. Boy, some of the domestic 'problems' we have encountered while landscaping the properties of some of these wealthy folk would make you smile.....and I agree, these seemingly shallow people who can nip-pick over what colour pot best suits their garden....for 3 days straight thinking little else) don't seem to be very happy, despite their money. What makes us laugh at times is the way some of them perceive EVERYBODY who does contract work for them....they speak to them as though they are riff-raff they feel they can order round and treat like 'lower creatures'. We play a bit of a game with these ones and make them wait the longest! Most of them are actually PIG ignorant of just about everything other than which wine to drink with dinner and which stylist or cosmetic surgeon is the current 'flavour of the day'.

They make us laugh....what else can you do! :D

I used to hate sub contracting on the northshore of sydney. They always want the best job for the lowest price, and half of them would hand you a credit card to pay, like your a bloody cash machine, give me a battler to work for anyday, because they believe in a fair days work for a fair days pay.

[seamus]

Late to the party again...

I am currently involved with a messianic commune... soon to terminate.
If any on the board need someone with these abilities, give me a shout. I'll be flappin in the free breeze about 2 months from now. Gonna visit the parents for a bit after exodus.

My mad skillz:
Mechanic, automotive and industrial.
Printer (yes printing presses... Heidelbergs, AB Dicks, Ryobis, Gestetners, Chiefs, I've even run a web (newspaper) press)
Graphic design/Layout
Editor
Writer (articles and stories)
Teacher
Machinist (but i'm pretty slow)
Computer Repairman (seems like everyone in the tribe of Judah [don't ask] calls me for tech support)

Things I would like to learn:
Permaculture
Reiki
Qi Gong
Tai Chi
I Ching
Orchard and vine husbandry

The people in my community are utilized wherever and however they are needed, so I have gotten to wear a lot of hats. That's the fun part.

s

[tru3]

I used to hate sub contracting on the northshore of sydney. They always want the best job for the lowest price, and half of them would hand you a credit card to pay, like your a bloody cash machine, give me a battler to work for anyday, because they believe in a fair days work for a fair days pay.

i'm working on my "oz-speak" so's when i move there, i can get around.

um, what's a "battler"? :o

it gets old, doesn't it? we give our subs candy at christmas, thank you's on big jobs that come in under budget, (bonus if we can), and really try to treat them straight-up with respect.

my wife and i are writing a book for do-it-yourselfers. our message: stop trying to keep up with the joneses! the great lie of interior design is that buying the right label will give you a sense of home. our approach is about the joy of self-expression, that your home should be a reflection of who you are, not martha stewart! :D

Did you know that rates of depression and suicide are far higher among the very rich; several times the national average, and it makes no difference whether you were born into wealth or not? It makes sense: To us it's still a dream, a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow. But imagine you'd struggled all your life, done terrible, shameful things and sacrificed everything to reach that pot of gold... only to find it empty. How horrible!

i need to share something with you, h.c. you're absolutely spot on with that. my dad made a fortune in a leveraged buyout back in the early 90's. he was president of a fortune 1000 company (at least it was soda pop, not armaments!). he grew up poor, on the black sheep side of the family. he drove himself mercilessly for 30 years, and made a shambles out of my family life. i have taken as little money as i could from him over the years, paid my own way through school. he helped loan me the money to buy the business (without usury!) and i've paid back every penny. and, he is helping out with my son's college tuition. i am grateful for that.

i feel that deep down, he always believed that one had to choose between a successful career and a loving family. what's so heartbreaking to me is that when i was young, it seemed like to me we were happier when we had no money. we were very close, and then, when he was about 30, some kind of "inner drive" kicked in, and he became a different guy. i'm not talking about mind-control (my father's never joined anything in his life, and i can pretty well say with confidence my family's not in the bloodline-- we're mutts! :) ), i'm talking about a self-hypnosis, an unrelenting hunger to achieve something, a need to prove something to his family, that just put everything else aside.

and now, turning 70, he really has tried to reconnect with me. we've done a lot of healing, but we just see life through opposite ends of the telescope. i have made my peace with him, and forgiven him as best as i am able. i just have come to accept him for who he is, but i don't have to be him. he's my da'.;)

[tru3]

they speak to them as though they are riff-raff they feel they can order round and treat like 'lower creatures'. We play a bit of a game with these ones and make them wait the longest! Most of them are actually PIG ignorant of just about everything other than which wine to drink with dinner and which stylist or cosmetic surgeon is the current 'flavour of the day'.

you know what's interesting to me? in general, i find the people who complain the most have the most problems with their jobs: a flaw in the fabric, mis-sewn drapes, delayed shipments from vendors.

in general, the ones who are the most appreciative seem to have the smoothest jobs.

LOA? naaaawwwww! ;)

[oneofmany]

um, what's a "battler"? :o

A battler is a person or couple who are just getting by on their incomes, living from paycheck to paycheck. We have a term in Australia "Little Aussie Battler" which refers to the common man.:D

[father ted]

I spent 2andahalf months last year in the goldfields, gold prospecting (detecting) and made a slight profit, then I came home (because of the summer heat, and I was hitching a ride) and now I'm unemployed, on the dole.

My government benefits might stop pretty soon so I'm going to have to find a new source of income somehow. (I have no qualifications and it's pretty hard for me to find a job right now, where I am) I'm trying to save up enough money so I can go back to the goldfields, because that is what I want to do. I realized last time I went, that with the right setup, I can find enough gold consistently, though that's not set in stone, but I can get by, and make the best of working for myself:)

[neondestiny]

I tru,

We own a designer landscaping business in one of Australia's more exclusive real estate areas, and its all about image here too. Boy, some of the domestic 'problems' we have encountered while landscaping the properties of some of these wealthy folk would make you smile.....and I agree, these seemingly shallow people who can nip-pick over what colour pot best suits their garden....for 3 days straight thinking little else) don't seem to be very happy, despite their money. What makes us laugh at times is the way some of them perceive EVERYBODY who does contract work for them....they speak to them as though they are riff-raff they feel they can order round and treat like 'lower creatures'. We play a bit of a game with these ones and make them wait the longest! Most of them are actually PIG ignorant of just about everything other than which wine to drink with dinner and which stylist or cosmetic surgeon is the current 'flavour of the day'.

They make us laugh....what else can you do!
My hubby has his own gardening business here in the Southern Highlands, which is mostly caters to the Upper class of the social bracket here too.
He has found the same thing with a lot of people that have a lot of zero's on their bank accounts, that they tend not to be very happy at all or are so busy working their arses off to afford their luxurious lives that they rarely get to enjoy their families or their fortunes.
Then there are others that are the most beautiful souls, just happen to have a lot of cash, they are the ones I admire as they haven't let their money go to their heads.
Hubbies families are "well to do" people, the biggest thing that gets me is one lot are so "upperclass" that they eat this gourmet crap all the time, like blue vein cheeses, panchetta and bruscetta (which to me tastes like crap) and causes them no end of health problems.
I am so glad I came from a lower class family at least I appreciate real food lol and am greatful for any small blessing that has come my way. I am sure not having a lot, makes you more creative because you have to be ;)

[jagalman]

I Play Music!!

I am a good Dj!! i have the DJ Mixing equipment's, i play house, trance, Tecno, hip hop ex...

I love Music!! :D

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

I Play Music!!

I am a good Dj!! i have the DJ Mixing equipment's, i play house, trance, Tecno, hip hop ex...

I love Music!! :D

You do any hardstyle or darkcore? :cool:

[notaslave]

Today I have truanted.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Today I have truanted.

Now I'm jealous.

[oneofmany]

Today I have truanted.good for you :)

[garth]

Tru3..you moving to OZ?

Some more OZ speak coloquilism's to get ya speaking the lingo

Mate - friend, brother, comrad (even if you've just met them)
Pissing down - raining hard
No shit sherlock - sacarist remark ususally aimed at someone who has stated the obvious
Shelias - Woman
Map of tassie - Female genetalia
PIGS - cops
Zombie, dope, smoke, bush - marijuana
Fag - cigarette
Fair Dinkum - for real, genuine
Piss, grog, XXXX, 4X, Tallie, Stubbie, Scooner, pot - all terms assocaited with achohol i.e. beer

There is more (heaps more), just a few to get ya started:D

A little test for ya, what does this mean

I want a slab of gold, cold mate?

[garth]

Late to the party again...

I am currently involved with a messianic commune... soon to terminate.
If any on the board need someone with these abilities, give me a shout. I'll be flappin in the free breeze about 2 months from now. Gonna visit the parents for a bit after exodus.

s

Where are you? I have an orchard (in OZ) and may be able to offer some help if of any interest to you.

[tru3]

Tru3..you moving to OZ?

Some more OZ speak coloquilism's to get ya speaking the lingo

Mate - friend, brother, comrad (even if you've just met them)
Pissing down - raining hard
No shit sherlock - sacarist remark ususally aimed at someone who has stated the obvious
Shelias - Woman
Map of tassie - Female genetalia
PIGS - cops
Zombie, dope, smoke, bush - marijuana
Fag - cigarette
Fair Dinkum - for real, genuine
Piss, grog, XXXX, 4X, Tallie, Stubbie, Scooner, pot - all terms assocaited with achohol i.e. beer

There is more (heaps more), just a few to get ya started:D

A little test for ya, what does this mean

I want a slab of gold, cold mate?


slab of gold, slab of gold, hmmmm....I KNOW: A BALE OF REALLY REALLY GOOD MARIJUANA??!

omfg! thank you! it's the "rosetta stone"! lol :D in order to further international peace and cooperation, here are the american equivalents:

dood!- friend, brother, comrad (even if you've just met them)
it's raining pitchforks- raining hard
duh!- sacarist remark ususally aimed at someone who has stated the obvious
babes- Woman
um, pm me and i'll tell you...- Female genetalia
PIGS - cops (some things are universally understood! :rolleyes: )
Zombie, dope, smoke, bush - marijuana (ditto! :D )
butt - cigarette
________- for real, genuine (everythings artificial here!)
brew, brewski, cold one, frosty one, we're not as imaginative as you guys! - all terms assocaited with achohol i.e. beer

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

omfg! thank you! it's the "rosetta stone"! lol :D in order to further international peace and cooperation, here are the american equivalents:

dood!- friend, brother, comrad (even if you've just met them)
it's raining pitchforks- raining hard
duh!- sacarist remark ususally aimed at someone who has stated the obvious
babes- Woman
um, pm me and i'll tell you...- Female genetalia
PIGS - cops (some things are universally understood! :rolleyes: )
Zombie, dope, smoke, bush - marijuana (ditto! :D )
butt - cigarette
________- for real, genuine (everythings artificial here!)
brew, brewski, cold one, frosty one, we're not as imaginative as you guys! - all terms assocaited with achohol i.e. beer
How did it change from "dude" to "dood"?

Dood in dutch means dead.

When did this happen? I know I've been gone for 5 years, but fuck.

[tru3]

How did it change from "dude" to "dood"?

Dood in dutch means dead.

When did this happen? I know I've been gone for 5 years, but fuck.

yikes! i just know some younger folk spell it that way. i'm forty seven; i'm clueless any more when it comes to pop culture. :confused:

[garth]

slab of gold, slab of gold, hmmmm....I KNOW: A BALE OF REALLY REALLY GOOD MARIJUANA??!

omfg! thank you! it's the "rosetta stone"! lol :D in order to further international peace and cooperation, here are the american equivalents:


Tru3..you little ripper (great guy, said with great enthuasim). Close with the test, its a box of beer, straight from the chiller. Slab is a term for 24 300ml (1/2 pint) bottles of beer. Gold is short for XXXX Gold lager (one of the primary source's of sustenance in OZ) Is usually yelled out of a car window at the Bottlo (bottle shop) drive thru.

hahaha...you beauty (great guy, said with great enthuasim)

[jagalman]

You do any hardstyle or darkcore? :cool:


Yup Hardstyle!!!! Cheers!!!
i play that with techno in live party's!! mwahahaha!!

[i am all i am]

More Australianisms:

Mad as a cut snake - either really stupid or really pissed off.

Brick short of a load - not very bright/smart.
Sandwich short of a picnic - as above.
Two and six in the pound - as above.
Dingbat - as above.
Numbnut - as above.
Flamin' gallah - as above.
Drongo - as above.
Dill - as above.

Watering hole - pub.

Durrie - cigarette.

You little ripper - used to express excitement over something.

Bushie - someone from the country areas.

Nuckle shuffler - wanker.

Norm - inactive person that watches sport from the couch.

Pollie - politician.

Old man - father/dad.

Old chook - mother/mum.

Tin lids - kids.

Trouble and strife - wife.

Dog and bone - telephone.

Rub a dub dub - pub.

Frof and toad - road.

Butchers hook - look, usually shortened to butchers.

John dory - story, usually shortened to Johnny, as in "What's the Johnny".

Flying off the handle - getting upset for no apparent reason.

Shit on a stick - whatever you get, usually used for a reply to "What's for dinner?".

Arse over tit - used when someone falls over.

Fair crack of the whip - complaint against bias, usually from an authority figure.

Fair go mate - simple request for fair treatment.

Dunny - toilet.

Piss up - drinking binge, can also mean a party or get together.

True blue - genuine.

Fair dinkum - can mean genuine or a question of being genuine, contextual.

No worries - no problem.

Just to add a few.
All sayings may mean something different depending on your location.
I hope this helps you out a bit Tru3.


With LOVE.
______________________________

WHEN PAIRED OPPOSITES DEFINE YOUR BELIEFS, YOUR BELIEFS WILL IMPRISON YOU.

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Yup Hardstyle!!!! Cheers!!!
i play that with techno in live party's!! mwahahaha!!

:(

I was serious. Paul Alstek, DJ Neophyte, Angerfist, why are you laughing at me? :(

[ho1ogram]

Slab is a term for 24 300ml (1/2 pint) bottles of beer. Gold is short for XXXX Gold lager (one of the primary source's of sustenance in OZ) Is usually yelled out of a car window at the Bottlo (bottle shop) drive thru.

tru3 - don't be fooled, this sounds like Queensland disinfo. Note; only people from the Illuminati's 'Queen's Land' drink it, to the rest of Aus it is the equivqlent of Fosters. (It is so poisonous it affects their mental faculties. Stubbies hold 375ml's not 300.)

ps - Queensland was to be excised from the rest of Oz along with xmas island and Nauru, but the paperwork got muddled so where stuck with them.

[i am all i am]

tru3 - don't be fooled, this sounds like Queensland disinfo. Note; only people from the Illuminati's 'Queen's Land' drink it, to the rest of Aus it is the equivqlent of Fosters. (It is so poisonous it affects their mental faculties. Stubbies hold 375ml's not 300.)

ps - Queensland was to be excised from the rest of Oz along with xmas island and Nauru, but the paperwork got muddled so where stuck with them.

Maybe Queen's landers only get 300ml beers because they can't hold there grog (grog=beer True3).


With LOVE.

[father ted]

tru3 - don't be fooled, this sounds like Queensland disinfo. Note; only people from the Illuminati's 'Queen's Land' drink it, to the rest of Aus it is the equivqlent of Fosters. (It is so poisonous it affects their mental faculties. Stubbies hold 375ml's not 300.)

ps - Queensland was to be excised from the rest of Oz along with xmas island and Nauru, but the paperwork got muddled so where stuck with them.

Queenslanders and to a lesser extent NSWelshmen, speak a different language than the rest of australia. In fact, we can't understand each other at all. Did you know, that in queensland bogan means bevan?

[garth]

O.K wise arses I should have said approximately 300 mls & as I knew someone would jack up about XXXX, if you reread my post you will see that I said (one of the primary source's of sustenance in OZ)

Bloody hell, sticklers for accuracy aren't we, and as for beer...well say no more...this is OZ. personally I've been drinking Corona's lately!:D

[i am all i am]

O.K wise arses I should have said approximately 300 mls & as I knew someone would jack up about XXXX, if you reread my post you will see that I said

Bloody hell, sticklers for accuracy aren't we, and as for beer...well say no more...this is OZ. personally I've been drinking Corona's lately!:D


Is XXXX used because you can't spell in Queen's land ???

Or does it hide a four letter word ???

Possibly, piss or shit ???


With LOVE.

[father ted]

What are you aussies doing up at this time of night!!!

[jagalman]

:(

I was serious. Paul Alstek, DJ Neophyte, Angerfist, why are you laughing at me? :(

yes i am serious to same here! it's just when i play music i travel within dimensions far far away!! :D

cheers!!

[tru3]

What are you aussies doing up at this time of night!!!


i'm really disoriented now. it's broad daylight here! ooo, the room is spinning....:confused: :D

thanks, garth, for those kind words. you're aces in my book!

btw, i hate to break it to you, but i used to live in aurora, illinois: there is no stan mikita donut shop! lol :D

[quelyn]

Hi Quelyn, looks like we share the same passion! Horses have many gifts for humans & we are finally learning to listen to them!! :)
Hi back to you Unicorn,

Yes, I have been a horse-connected lover of horses since birth, First words [I am told] were Nuck, Nuck which translates to horse my keepers told me. Great book just sent to me is It's Not About The Horse by Wyatt Webb with Cindy Pearlman. This is another therapy book with equines as the leaders. Many out there-I know-but this gives ALL the credit to the animal NOT man/woman. So be it..............

Dancing with the horses,
Quelyn

[quelyn]

i'm really disoriented now. it's broad daylight here! ooo, the room is spinning....:confused: :D

thanks, garth, for those kind words. you're aces in my book!

btw, i hate to break it to you, but i used to live in aurora, illinois: there is no stan mikita donut shop! lol :D
Whoa,

Aurora, Illinois-me too-also, Oswego, IL...........................small world! I was posting to Unicorn and just happened to see the Aurora comment. Now, I will need to back track to find the source.

[midwich cuckoo]

Snap ,Crackle and Pop then Midwich Cuckoo, I'm so sorry to hear that , I'm the same 24/7...Mum Partially sighted...but still a ripper...at 78...took her to Turkey jetskiing and doing Ephesus June 06, loved it..and did Egypt ..and Cairo in February 06...still lovin it and planning on going to maybe India soon.

Yeah a holiday would be nice, but with the way the world is going we're probably better of here in sunny Scotland.

Its a whole lot tougher on you innit, and I do know how you feel ...because I do it too. I lost my Dad to cancer when I was 8...well im 42 now..and love my mum so much I cannot contemplate life with her not in it.

Things could always be worse I suppose. ;)

Sorry to hear about your dad, must have been tough, especially at that age.

I am a cancer survivor, I beat it 4 years ago, just glad it was caught in time. :) Although I still suffer extreme post op surgery pain and as far as the doc knows it will always be there. :( But Mary Jane keeps it at bay. :D

I ain't no Mummys boy or nothing....i'm a conspiracy nut Biker...(retired due to loss of liscence for the moment....due to the infinite wisdom of the police...not knowing I can aquit myself well on fast metal and carbon fibre, and supersticky tyres, on the Norh Wales roads, where I used to worship at the Alter of Lean LOL)

LOL. :D I'm far from a mummys boy too, I'm ex army, but it's not something I'm prepared to talk about.

I drew a healer called Mona from Beirut..Lebanon...and we tap into her reiki power well, mums signt has in fact improved ..to some fair degree..by tapping into the innate with Mona.

If ya want this fine Ladys website and free healing to help you...then drop me a PM...and i'll post you her site.Tell her Phoenix sent ya ..she knows me from the Old Forum...which I asked her to join.

Thanks very much for the offer, but I don't want to be of a burden to your friend.

Peace and Love.

[davelove]

Hypno/ Psycho-Analyst.

[garth]

Is XXXX used because you can't spell in Queen's land ???

Or does it hide a four letter word ???

Possibly, piss or shit ???


Struth cobber, fair crack of the whip, aw..your just taking the piss....fair dinkum, you's have just got the shits cause your not living here but

[garth]

thanks, garth, for those kind words. you're aces in my book!



Ten Four good buddy (U.S trucker talk:) ) anytime cobber

I'll just whack a slab in the esky and come over for a chin wag.....

[tru3]

Whoa,

Aurora, Illinois-me too-also, Oswego, IL...........................small world! I was posting to Unicorn and just happened to see the Aurora comment. Now, I will need to back track to find the source.

ya hey, how ya doin', over by 'dere, for cripes sake! oswego used to be part of my sales territory, in another lifetime.

I'll just whack a slab in the esky and come over for a chin wag.....

ok, ok, i'm gonna go lay down now...my head hurts...:confused:

Queenslanders and to a lesser extent NSWelshmen, speak a different language than the rest of australia. In fact, we can't understand each other at all. Did you know, that in queensland bogan means bevan?

we have the same issue, in the states...

Jean Lundegaard: [chopping vegetables] Hiya, hon! Welcome back! How was Fargo?
Jerry Lundegaard: Yah, real good now.
Jean Lundegaard: Dad's here.
[Jerry's mood changes as he hears this news]
Jerry Lundegaard: Is he stayin' for supper then?
Jean Lundegaard: I dunno... I think so. Dad?
Wade Gustafson: What?
Jean Lundegaard: [thick Minnesota accent] You stayin' for supperrrrr?
Wade Gustafson: Yah! -fargo, 1996

[garth]

ok, ok, i'm gonna go lay down now...my head hurts...:confused:


Sorry Brother, didn't mean to inflict pain :D means I will get some beers and come over for a chin wag (sorry) chat

[i am all i am]

Struth cobber, fair crack of the whip, aw..your just taking the piss....fair dinkum, you's have just got the shits cause your not living here but

Great comeback brother.

But......if you give me your address I'll be there lickity-split.

In fact, when I think of going bush, I usually think of going to live in Kakadu.


With LOVE.