View Full Version : Cashless society by... 2012! says Visa chief
john white
12-03-2007, 08:11 PM
I sh*t you not:
http://news.independent.co.uk/business/news/article2347411.ece
Cashless society by 2012, says Visa chief
By Tim Webb
Published: 11 March 2007
Paying for goods with notes and coins could be consigned to history within five years, according to the chief executive of Visa Europe.
Peter Ayliffe said that, by 2012, using credit and debit cards should be cheaper and more convenient than cash.
Some retailers could soon start surcharging customers if they choose to buy products with cash, because of the greater cost of processing these payments, he warned.
Visa Europe briefed the British Retail Consortium last month on new "contactless" cards that can be waved in front of a scanner to make small payments.
However, the consortium dismissed this vision and claimed that card processing fees, which regulators are investigating, are still too high.
One member of the consurtium said that the estimated "interchange" fee charged to retailers amounts to some 4p for each transaction.
Nick Mourant, treasurer at Tesco, said: "There is a duopoly between Mastercard and Visa in the UK. Their setting of fees is anti-competitive."
eternal_spirit
12-03-2007, 08:22 PM
Looks like Icke was right yet again. All it will take is the government to pass a few laws forced upon them by the illuminati bankers, and hey presto we have a cashless society!
If this happens, it could be the final chance for the people to protest against it. Hopefully there will be enough protesters to make the government change their mind.
unicorn
12-03-2007, 08:53 PM
Katherine Albrecht has also been talking about this for years, this is why they have introduced store & credit cards for the master database, & that's why RFID chips are being pushed forward. They propose to RFID chip all cash that you need your card to withdraw, so they know what notes you have. They will tax the cash so that you need to spend it within a certain time or it will become devalued, driving us towards a cashless society.
Her talk was being shown on google but I haven't been able to find it, so if anyone else knows about is please let me know. She also shared how they will monitor all of your purchases & they even know how much toilet paper you & your family uses, so that if you should ever think of harbouring someone in your home, they will be checking out your usage to see if it has increased! Cosy...
Without cash they will know everything we do & buy, & they'll have people in debt by the short & curlies...
Hopefully there will be enough protesters to make the government change their mind ... or enough protestors to get rid of the entire government altogether! ;)
eternal_spirit
13-03-2007, 12:27 AM
Katherine Albrecht has also been talking about this for years, this is why they have introduced store & credit cards for the master database, & that's why RFID chips are being pushed forward. They propose to RFID chip all cash that you need your card to withdraw, so they know what notes you have. They will tax the cash so that you need to spend it within a certain time or it will become devalued, driving us towards a cashless society.
Her talk was being shown on google but I haven't been able to find it, so if anyone else knows about is please let me know. She also shared how they will monitor all of your purchases & they even know how much toilet paper you & your family uses, so that if you should ever think of harbouring someone in your home, they will be checking out your usage to see if it has increased! Cosy...
Without cash they will know everything we do & buy, & they'll have people in debt by the short & curlies...
... or enough protestors to get rid of the entire government altogether! ;)
What if you got a runny nose or a shitty ass lol geez:rolleyes:
This could be the final battle.....if it happens, the people will protest and those in power will send out the New World Order Police force to round up the protesting sheeple, along with the mind manipulating silent weapons.:mad:
kromagg
13-03-2007, 03:57 PM
People should just stop buying crap that's not food or drink. That would show the bastards.
unicorn
13-03-2007, 05:12 PM
This could be the final battle.....if it happens, the people will protest and those in power will send out the New World Order Police force to round up the protesting sheeple, along with the mind manipulating silent weapons. :eek: :eek: :eek:
Heard of positive thinking there eternal spirit? :D As long as there are enough lightworkers united then we are sure to win in one fell swoop of sweet smelling rosey victory! The longer we leave it, the more prepared they will be. It's simple really, we just stop going to work, stop paying ANY money to banks or government, & unite in the spirit of love to keep the world running through exchange instead of money. There's only a handful of them, what, a few thousand according to some, and how many millions of us? And, we have love on our side...
well said kromagg, so many people moaning about the state of the world but then go & buy their shopping at Tesco with their reward card in their huge monster truck sized 4x4. Changing the world is easy, we just gotta organise to do it all together so that we have the impact. ;)
awakensong
13-03-2007, 08:25 PM
I think I've heard there are 300 of 'them', and then of course 6.5 billion of "us". But remember who owns and controls the military, and that's what will be used on us.
It's voting and joining the military that people should stop also.
unicorn
13-03-2007, 08:34 PM
But remember who owns and controls the military, and that's what will be used on us
Yeah, I know what you mean. Then I think, but they're humans, would the military & police really go ahead with shooting us all down?
Then I wonder who's up there doing all the chemtrailing & flying those helicopters. I wonder if these are humans that have been so brainwashed as to think that this is for humanity's own good & that we need 'protecting from ourselves', or if they have hybrid repies bred to continue their dirty work...
Altogether though this is all fear based & we gotta move way beyond it all. Fear that they'll use the military on us will only enslave us longer. We have nothing to fear, but fear itself...
Let the battle begin!! Just think of all the film where the small number of goodies overcome the mighty number of baddies... they are a guiding light for us, faith is the key!
awakensong
13-03-2007, 10:35 PM
I hadn't meant that to sound fearful, just factful. :)
You mention faith being the key. What do you place your faith in?
unicorn
14-03-2007, 02:48 PM
What do you place your faith in?
Wow, what a good question, awakensong... I do trust that light will 'win' over darkness, that tyrannical rule is coming to an end, as is living with such a disconnection from the Divine & nature. I also believe that it can go either way, so people have to first look at the shit this world's in (instead of pretending it's all fucking rosy) & then do something about it, even if it's just changing their belief about their life.
A quote that someone shared with me is coming to me regarding this, it's from a Tibetan monk that was being tortured by the Chinese. His main fear... that he would stop loving his torturers. Wow... what a commitment to love.
I guess my faith is fluid & fluctuating each day/moment depending on how I feel (you know what I mean, sometimes it can all feel so hopeless on this planet of illusion!). Ultimately I have faith in myself, & the overall good of mankind. I know the state of the world contradicts this, but when people are free & able to choose love or hate, I have faith that love will win.
The illuminati & their servants are ultimately just props to help us realise our own power, light & love. Without them we would not be feeling love's opposites of hate, anger, fear & loneliness. The question is, how much further does it all have to go before we stand up for ourselves?
Nor would I mind dying in battle against the military or the illuminati, for fear is the blissful release from the illusion. Not that I intend to die this way, I will be enjoying heaven on earth before my days are up! And enjoying a life free from banks, money & debt!