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steppewar
05-01-2008, 02:37 AM
I am a born loser and came to this decision many years ago. I have also noticed that if you try and improve your life not only are you guaranteed to fail, but the Matrix will punish you on top as well for even trying to make it better. My motto is, "You are born, you keep your head down, and you die ..., if you're lucky". By the way, I did a test in the link below called 'Are you a loser?', and it told me at the end that only 1% of the people who have done this test are even more of a loser than me. http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_loser.php?im
times7
05-01-2008, 02:53 AM
what is a "winner" ?
danucrom
05-01-2008, 02:56 AM
I am a born loser and came to this decision many years ago. I have also noticed that if you try and improve your life not only are you guaranteed to fail, but the Matrix will punish you on top as well for even trying to make it better. My motto is, "You are born, you keep your head down, and you die ..., if you're lucky". By the way, I did a test in the link below called 'Are you a loser?', and it told me at the end that only 1% of the people who have done this test are even more of a loser than me. http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_loser.php?im
Oh grow up and stop wallowing in self pity. You really need to change your outlook or nothing will change.
danucrom
05-01-2008, 02:57 AM
what is a "winner" ?
exactly.
times7
05-01-2008, 02:59 AM
exactly.
can you answer the question though ?
what is a winner ?
I just want to know thats all
times7
05-01-2008, 03:08 AM
In the UK media just gone by
a guy who worked for the BBC earning 100K a year in the 80s /90s is now sleeping rough on Brighten sea front,yes, thats right, a big hot shot who was earning big money in the 80s is now a Hobbo
is that a loser ?
Its hard for me to conjure with that
times7
05-01-2008, 03:10 AM
In the UK media just gone by
a guy who worked for the BBC earning 100K a year in the 80s /90s is now sleeping rough on Brighten sea front,yes, thats right, a big hot shot who was earning big money in the 80s is now a Hobbo
is that a loser ?
Its hard for me to conjure with that
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=502079&in_page_id=1770
danucrom
05-01-2008, 03:15 AM
can you answer the question though ?
what is a winner ?
I just want to know thats all
In this schizoid society a "winner" is someone who plays the game, has all the little toys and trinkets to prove that he/she is "successful" and hangs around with the "popular" people. These shallow parasites base their whole lives around greed. Why would a sentient person want to aspire to have that shallow existance?. The OP should stop trying to measure up to this crap, realise that he is a human being with value and give the system that tells him that he is a "loser" the finger. Once he gives up his inferiority complex things will start to go his way.
chinchilla
05-01-2008, 03:17 AM
I am a born loser and came to this decision many years ago. I have also noticed that if you try and improve your life not only are you guaranteed to fail, but the Matrix will punish you on top as well for even trying to make it better. My motto is, "You are born, you keep your head down, and you die ..., if you're lucky". By the way, I did a test in the link below called 'Are you a loser?', and it told me at the end that only 1% of the people who have done this test are even more of a loser than me. http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_loser.php?im
Yes you are a loser! You are a loser because you are choosing the destructive path of anxiety. You are anxious... so are the majority of people, why aren't the majority of people masochistic? Because there's more than one thing you can do with anxiety.
Observe! The anxiety map -
http://mostuseful.co.uk/images/stories/anxiety_map.jpg
You can see what I mean, if not I've recently written an article on anxiety and anger and how to cure both with a little bit of psychology knowledge and will power.
It really is easy, so try it out -
http://mostuseful.co.uk/index.php/Other/Anxiety-and-Anger-and-the-Most-Useful-Way-to-Control-Them
Plus, no-one steal my map it's copyrighted! :p
Oh grow up and stop wallowing in self pity. You really need to change your outlook or nothing will change.
Spot on :D
times7
05-01-2008, 03:33 AM
Its hard to feel good when the whole of society is promoting the "incrowd"
The greatest people who ever lived were not part of the "incrowd" and were infact "loners"
times7
05-01-2008, 03:34 AM
Yes you are a loser! You are a loser because you are choosing the destructive path of anxiety. You are anxious... so are the majority of people, why aren't the majority of people masochistic? Because there's more than one thing you can do with anxiety.
Observe! The anxiety map -
http://mostuseful.co.uk/images/stories/anxiety_map.jpg
You can see what I mean, if not I've recently written an article on anxiety and anger and how to cure both with a little bit of psychology knowledge and will power.
It really is easy, so try it out -
http://mostuseful.co.uk/index.php/Other/Anxiety-and-Anger-and-the-Most-Useful-Way-to-Control-Them
Plus, no-one steal my map it's copyrighted! :p
Spot on :D
To be cocky only makes it worse IMO
h1s_l0rdsh1p
05-01-2008, 03:44 AM
I am a born loser and came to this decision many years ago. I have also noticed that if you try and improve your life not only are you guaranteed to fail, but the Matrix will punish you on top as well for even trying to make it better. My motto is, "You are born, you keep your head down, and you die ..., if you're lucky". By the way, I did a test in the link below called 'Are you a loser?', and it told me at the end that only 1% of the people who have done this test are even more of a loser than me. http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_loser.php?im
Oh yes. Please do go on. You understand that they want you to think like this, right?
times7
05-01-2008, 03:49 AM
Oh yes. Please do go on. You understand that they want you to think like this, right?
have you ever felt like a loser Lordship ?
Tell me, are you a "winner"
"h1s l0rdsh1p"
educate the people
h1s_l0rdsh1p
05-01-2008, 03:57 AM
have you ever felt like a loser Lordship ?
Tell me, are you a "winner"
"h1s l0rdsh1p"
educate the people
You know what:
I don't care.
I have what I want to do, and I'm going to do them. Simple as that. Whether that makes me a winner or a loser in the eyes of other people? Well, that idea can go fuck right off.
And you should feel the same. Because in the end, it's YOU who lays on YOUR deathbed. Have no regrets.
wise woman
05-01-2008, 04:10 AM
That is a good answer
times7
05-01-2008, 04:10 AM
You know what:
I don't care.
I have what I want to do, and I'm going to do them. Simple as that. Whether that makes me a winner or a loser in the eyes of other people? Well, that idea can go fuck right off.
And you should feel the same. Because in the end, it's YOU who lays on YOUR deathbed. Have no regrets.
Yeah but WTF is a "winner" ?
Look,i want to find out what a "winner" is
(i must be a thought criminal)
I mean ,look at the donuts on this forum,they all like to think they are "winners" define the term "winners" because i really want to know
times7
05-01-2008, 04:38 AM
here is a clip of the P4P NO1 boxer in the WORLD skipping
(like lightning)
The 2nd best paid athelete behind Tiger Woods 2008,i show you Floyd Mayweather
Is below a loser ?
(maybe ,maybe not?)
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MdgXgjCaus4
paganus
05-01-2008, 07:04 AM
Yeah but WTF is a "winner" ?
Look,i want to find out what a "winner" is
(i must be a thought criminal)
I mean ,look at the donuts on this forum,they all like to think they are "winners" define the term "winners" because i really want to knowpersonally,i think if your happy then your winning.
cheeney1
05-01-2008, 08:43 AM
can you answer the question though ?
what is a winner ?
I just want to know thats all[/QUOTE]
Someone Who Doesn't Lose
fremmenwarrior
05-01-2008, 09:58 AM
NO ONE IS A BORN LOSER - except those corrupt, diseased, dying old men who hide in the shadows, counting their ill-gotten trinkets and gold; reprobate, sub-human old men, who, by their twisted / perverted ideology, have created this stinking 'hell on earth', seeking to control the masses with their greed, with their despotism, their despicable lies; the fear-mongering, the brain-washing, the mass manipulation - it is 'THEY' WHO ARE THE LOSERS!
'THEY' would just have YOU think that YOU are a born loser, because YOU won't play their evil games - and YOU refuse to go quietly and fit neatly into the corrupt societal niche 'they' have created for all people. So:
a winner is someone who refuses to roll over and play dead for the controlling elite
a winner is someone who resists the controlling elite's wicked agenda in every which way they can, no matter how small or insignificant it may seem.
a winner is someone who can see through all the lies and the brain-washing bullshit about sexism, racism, religionism, and any other elite contrived 'ism' with which they seek to divide, conquer and subvert the human race with.
a winner is someone who can watch the tv news, a current affairs program, or a politician talking, and say to themselves - this is complete lies, bullshit, propaganda, brain-washing, manipulation etc.
a winner is someone who can see that no matter what President, Prime Minister or Political Party is in power, the agenda is the same; and these people are SELECTED by the Illuminati, working FOR the Illuminati, AGAINST the people.
Take heart and don't despair or get down or depressed - this is exactly how the evil elite want you to feel. Huge cracks are forming in their wicked system and many many people are beginning to wise up and see through all the lies. Internets Forum's like this one are most needed, to get the truth out and across to people.
THE ELITE *ARE* THE LOSERS! IT'S JUST A MATTER OF TIME...
pleasuredome
05-01-2008, 11:41 AM
My motto is, "You are born, you keep your head down, and you die ..., if you're lucky". http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_loser.php?im
you've been watching too many episodes of bottom :D
cheeney1
05-01-2008, 11:52 AM
you've been watching too many episodes of bottom :D
Now Thats A Funny Tv Show For Being English....
The English Are The Best In The World At Comical Satire......
kblood
05-01-2008, 12:19 PM
When I took the test, 25% was more of a "loser" than me. As I see it, I do not find it important being cool. I do not like attention all that much, so I rather keep out of popularity contests. Besides, to be cool some people agree to stuff, or pretend to like or dislike something, just to promote being cool. Partying can be fun, but I do find it a waste of time most the time. I do not see why I should change myself to please others, if it was only to make friends with them on false foundations.
I am in fact proud to be a geek :)
malvern
05-01-2008, 12:40 PM
bloody lables again.... happy little boxes you can jump in and hide....... you are you ...and only you can be you.... so why not be the best you, you can be..... only you sleep with what you have done... noone else can live your dream.
freedom is yours ... but you have to find it and keep it
williammac
05-01-2008, 12:53 PM
...fuck you. And, I'll tell you why. You must have some awful big balls to blatantly profess how much of a loser you are -- you don't have the goddamned right. If anything, you're perpetuating your own self demise and stereotyping it simultaneously.
Fuck you, because you don't know what you're talking about. Fuck you, because it breaks my heart. Fuck you, because you could be a hell of a lot better.
Think and you are. You need to find your cocky spirit. Believe you're the shit, understand why you're important and what you have to contribue.
Goddamnit, man. Don't be ruining my faith in mankind like that, it's scarred enough as it is. Get it together or don't tell us about it at all.
-William
www.William-Mac.com
www.ThisWeekinTime.com
zero1
05-01-2008, 12:59 PM
The society of "winners" and "losers" is a psychopathic one. It is inhuman and alien to Man.
Do yourself a favour, and come to regard yourself in a better light regardless of what position in society you hold, good/bad or indifferent.
thorleyart
05-01-2008, 01:05 PM
I am a born loser and came to this decision many years ago. I have also noticed that if you try and improve your life not only are you guaranteed to fail, but the Matrix will punish you on top as well for even trying to make it better. My motto is, "You are born, you keep your head down, and you die ..., if you're lucky". By the way, I did a test in the link below called 'Are you a loser?', and it told me at the end that only 1% of the people who have done this test are even more of a loser than me. http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_loser.php?im
No I'm not.
you are because that's what you believe you are and that's what you expect to experience in life. you create your own reality.
change your beliefs and expectations.
its your chioce, no one elses.
cowboy
05-01-2008, 02:07 PM
I am a born loser and came to this decision many years ago. I have also noticed that if you try and improve your life not only are you guaranteed to fail, but the Matrix will punish you on top as well for even trying to make it better. My motto is, "You are born, you keep your head down, and you die ..., if you're lucky". By the way, I did a test in the link below called 'Are you a loser?', and it told me at the end that only 1% of the people who have done this test are even more of a loser than me. http://www.nerdtests.com/ft_loser.php?im
Don't be so down on yourself. First, taking a test online to see if your a loser is flat out ridiculous. Someone you've never met in your laugh is judging whether you're a loser based on a short multiple choice answer test --and you're taking it seriously!!
Secondly, life is so short, just enjoy it and be thankful it isn't eternal.
intruder
05-01-2008, 02:20 PM
Take heart steppewar!! We are ALL born "losers"!!! We lose a relative nirvana in our mothers womb as we're slapped on the bum to the harsh light of reality!
Then we slowly start to lose our bond with our mother. Then we do "wrong" and we start to lose the trust of other people. We lose trust in ourselves.We lose a favourite toy and then we start to lose our baby teeth. then we lose a friend or two. We lose our virginity...sometimes we lose our dignity...we can lose a job..and eventually we lose our memory and then our life.
gorgeousbutterfly
05-01-2008, 05:24 PM
YOu guys are fucking harsh. thats all i got to say.
chris
05-01-2008, 05:28 PM
Darn 52% of people are cooler than me.
What can I do to break 3% into the cool club?
lemonique
05-01-2008, 05:31 PM
If you think you are a loser you will be one.
Lighten up. Be grateful for the things you DO have, and we all have much to be grateful for. Start thinking clearly. Don't be mentally lazy.
Lemonique
steevo
05-01-2008, 05:34 PM
Look, if you had one shot, and one opportunity
To seize everything you ever wanted in one moment
Would you capture it or just let it slip?
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
Yo
His palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy
There's vomit on his sweater already, mom's spaghetti
He's nervous, but on the surface he looks calm and ready
To drop bombs, but he keeps on forgetting
What he wrote down, the whole crowd goes so loud
He opens his mouth, but the words won't come out
He's chokin, how, everybody's jokin now
The clock's run out, time's up, over, blau!
Snap back to reality, Oh, there goes gravity
Oh, there goes rabbit, he choked
He's so mad, but he won't give up that
easy, No
He won't have it , he knows his whole back's to these ropes
It don't matter, he's dope
He knows that, but he's broke
He's so stagnant he knows
When he goes back to this mobile home, that's when it's
Back to the lab again yo
This ol' rap shit
He better go capture this moment and hope it don't pass him
HOOK:
You better lose yourself in the music, the moment
You own it, you better never let it go
You only get one shot, do not miss your chance to blow
Cause opportunity comes once in a lifetime...yo
This soul's escaping, through this hole that is gaping
This world is mine for the taking
Make me king, as we move toward a, new world order
A normal life is borin, but superstardom's close to post mortem
It only grows harder, homie grows hotter
He blows it's all over, these hos is all on him
Coast to coast shows, he's known as the globetrotter
Lonely roads, God only knows
He's grown farther from home, he's no father
He goes home and barely knows his own daughter
But hold your nose cuz here goes the cold water, these ho's don't want him no mo, he's cold product
They moved on to the next schmoe who flows
He nose dove and sold nada
And so the soap opera is told and unfolds
I suppose it's old partna, but the beat goes on
Da da dum da dum da da
HOOK
No more games, I'ma change what you call rage
Tear this mothafuckin roof off like 2 dogs caged
I was playin in the beginning, the mood all changed
I been chewed up and spit out and booed off stage
But I kept rhymin and stepped writin, the next cipher
Best believe somebody's payin the pied piper
All the pain inside amplified by the fact
That I can't get by with my 9 to 5
And I can't provide the right type of life for my family
Cuz man, these goddamn food stamps don't buy diapers
And it's no movie, there's no Mekhi Phifer, this is my life
And these times are so hard and it's getting even harder
Tryin to feed and water my seed, plus
Teeter-totter caught up between bein a father and a primadonna
Baby mama dramas screamin on her
Too much for me to wanna
Stay in one spot, another day of monotony
Has gotten me to the point, I'm like a snail
I've got to formulate a plot or end up in jail or shot
Success is my only mothafuckin option, failure's not
Mom, I love you, but this trailer's got to go
I cannot grow old in Salem's Lot
So here I go it's my shot.
Feet fail me not this maybe the only opportunity that I got
HOOKx2
You can do anything you set your mind to man
42% are cooler, and
58% are more of a loser than you.
Dam and my life is pretty screwed at the moment:D
hagbard_celine
05-01-2008, 10:25 PM
exactly.
Yes, we don't get to make our own minds up on what constitutes a "winner", we're told what to think it is! It can only be someone who's achived The One Goal: money, power, property, conventional status!
times7
05-01-2008, 11:14 PM
Darn 52% of people are cooler than me.
What can I do to break 3% into the cool club?
Thats what i want to know,i have the 3% to break but man some people(winners ?) keep quiet,there is evil at work here
can someone on this forum name a famous "winner" ? is David Icke a winner ?
David Icke drinks many cans of beer everyday,is that a "winner" ?
crazed
05-01-2008, 11:53 PM
There is no winner and there is no loser.
erikneo
05-01-2008, 11:59 PM
Are you a born loser?
We lose as soon as we are born......Birth Certificate...
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times7
06-01-2008, 12:01 AM
There is no winner and there is no loser.
are you sure ?
one thing i have noticed with life, is there are many losers,no doubt
I just want to hear about the "winners"
I mean, the mainstream media news is all doom and gloom,people in debt,civil wars all over the globe,people starving,violence on the streets the media is filling our minds with "losers"
Its seems the media doesnt mention "winners"
I just want some answers
cultofbyron
06-01-2008, 12:07 AM
No-one is born a loser. I am a born-product of the lowest strata of consumer society and yet I do not consider myself a 'loser' at all. I know this will not be of much help to you but, know that through self-improvement and REAL awareness of the wider-world can improve how you feel about life. Tell me, do you also come from the low-income end of the scale?
I got to the question about Star Trek: The Motion Picture and suddenly felt, well Independence Day IS a better movie, but I find the world of Gene Roddenberry's imagination much more satisfying to muse on, but then a five point answer doesn't really do that thought justice now does it... just seems like the kind of "Am I Normal?" questionairre that Adam Curtis exposes in his excellent documentaries.
times7
06-01-2008, 02:45 AM
No-one is born a loser. I am a born-product of the lowest strata of consumer society and yet I do not consider myself a 'loser' at all. I know this will not be of much help to you but, know that through self-improvement and REAL awareness of the wider-world can improve how you feel about life. Tell me, do you also come from the low-income end of the scale?
I come from the dregs of society,thats why i am interested in these "winners"
Why is the media/news/papers all full of bad news,why is that ?
It seems they are keeping it secret about these "winners" thuere must be people who win right ?
celtic isis
06-01-2008, 05:03 PM
In this schizoid society a "winner" is someone who plays the game, has all the little toys and trinkets to prove that he/she is "successful" and hangs around with the "popular" people. These shallow parasites base their whole lives around greed. Why would a sentient person want to aspire to have that shallow existance?. The OP should stop trying to measure up to this crap, realise that he is a human being with value and give the system that tells him that he is a "loser" the finger. Once he gives up his inferiority complex things will start to go his way.
i totally hear you danucrom :) well said!!!
this is how i was brought up to be, i mean not to be part of this false system...and i thank my parents for it now. Omg i hate all that keeping up with the jones' kind of nonsense too. People get caught up trying to outdo eachother, buying into the false material world which means nothing in the end.
You see how Ireland has changed form how it was before? You're a Limerick gal just like me :) Since being in France each time i came back to Ireland i was shocked at how it had changed...people are just addicted to consumerism...it's almost dare i say i (you know i will lol) the new religion...:eek:
It's really tragic to see such an incredible, mystical, celtic land such as ireland just turn into a land of drones dictated to by the EU. Not to mention the rubbish spread by the Catholic church...at the same time peopl are dumping religion but they're not opening up to spirituality at all, they just live for the pub, work, a roll in the catholic approved hay and Brown Thomas lol
:rolleyes:
the key to people realising they're not losers and just how much potential they do have is in their spiritual wellbeing and development...they then understand what's real and what's not, what really matters.
You're dead right, everyone should just live the life they want to live and not try and conform to anything. I always felt on a different vibration, i always saw the falseness in things about society but just to survive i denied my feelings to fit in with the sheeple and well it literally almost killed me. And then i find out years later i was right all along! My feelings were right and i wasn't crazy! That they were wrong to doubt me, even to mock me, i mean i'm on the right track...they're not losers, but in truth they are. Cause they're missing out on all this, all that we know and experienced since we came to be awakened...so yeah, they're the losers! They're in mind prisons they needn't be in! Omg it would be hell for me to have to live just going to the pub and doing normal sheeple things with no other avenue in sight lol
well i'm all ranted out!
infinite love!
Celtic
comawhite015
06-01-2008, 05:17 PM
You're a loser if you think you are one.
I got 52%. Apparently I am an average person.
I demand a fucking recount. :P
celtic isis
06-01-2008, 05:27 PM
You're a loser if you think you are one.
I got 52%. Apparently I am an average person.
I demand a fucking recount. :P
lol :D
celtic isis
06-01-2008, 05:28 PM
I come from the dregs of society,thats why i am interested in these "winners"
Why is the media/news/papers all full of bad news,why is that ?
It seems they are keeping it secret about these "winners" thuere must be people who win right ?
they want you imprisoned in thoughts of fear and hopelessness that's why, sad but true.
cruise4
07-01-2008, 03:14 PM
I'm a winner. I stole his copyrighted map :D
baron von lotsov
07-01-2008, 04:25 PM
In this schizoid society a "winner" is someone who plays the game, has all the little toys and trinkets to prove that he/she is "successful" and hangs around with the "popular" people. These shallow parasites base their whole lives around greed. Why would a sentient person want to aspire to have that shallow existance?. The OP should stop trying to measure up to this crap, realise that he is a human being with value and give the system that tells him that he is a "loser" the finger. Once he gives up his inferiority complex things will start to go his way.
A real 'winner' is someone who does not allow anyone else to define them and to believe that definition is more correct than what they know themselves. In other words they know who they are. They have won the battle of control of their own self.
strider
07-01-2008, 04:53 PM
A real 'winner' is someone who does not allow anyone else to define them and to believe that definition is more correct than what they know themselves. In other words they know who they are. They have won the battle of control of their own self.
Well said baron.. I might not agree with most things you say, but at least you stick to your 'story' so to speak, more than I can say for a lot of this forum..
cultofbyron
09-01-2008, 04:14 PM
I come from the dregs of society,thats why i am interested in these "winners"
Why is the media/news/papers all full of bad news,why is that ?
It seems they are keeping it secret about these "winners" thuere must be people who win right ?
It is very seductive to think, especially if you come from the base of the hierarchy, in terms of winners and losers, it's why I used to be obsessed by the lottery and by becoming rich and famous. What I have discovered since then though is to become a 'winner' you have to sacrifice a part of yourself to conforming to hierarchical society, always on ITS terms. Yes, you can fake it and retain your own core beliefs about what it is to be human and a society where basic human rights are paramount, but how long can you maintain that facade? As a graduate (yes I'm in debt because I was not born into money) I should now be working in marketing. I studied art and the media because I felt the former could help humanity progress as a whole through understanding, and that the latter prostituded the former. However, it seemed that education is only a route to becoming a 'winner' if you are prepared to treat every other human as cattle to be herded by major corporations. This is how winners become winners. By trampling on the losers in the desperate scrum to rise to the 'top'. But the question should be, the top of what exactly...?
Also, the 'bad news' part of the post is that people like to complain about things they see around them, but there is nothing instrumental about this complaining because no-one has the knowledge or influence to change these things on a large scale. This is why I am sceptical of forums such as this one, where there is a lot of talk but no action. I'd love to help make a better, fairer, more peaceful society that believed in human equality but not enough people 'seem' to want to actually MAKE this happen. Such is the level of dominance of 'common sense' thought, particularly in the UK, where it is noble to accept your lot and make the best of it. This attitude simply will not do if things are to change.
It's a well hidden myth why those who are 'successful' are in fact successful. Cynics may say, 'they knew the right people, bought or brown-nosed their way to the top', those who believe in Gods may say 'they have a God-given, this-or-the-other', but generally it is once again, a belief that some unnameable 'thing' is present in those that succeed. It is a lack of analysis and shows just how little information journalists do actually have access to!
I'm sorry if this post makes me sound very bitter, but the truth is, I am ;)
cruise4
09-01-2008, 10:43 PM
"This is why I am sceptical of forums such as this one, where there is a lot of talk but no action. I'd love to help make a better, fairer, more peaceful society that believed in human equality but not enough people 'seem' to want to actually MAKE this happen."
May I ask what your contribution towards action has been so far? If zero you can shove your nonsense where the sun don't shine. If something... Rome wasn't built in a day.
paganus
09-01-2008, 10:47 PM
I come from the dregs of society,thats why i am interested in these "winners"
Why is the media/news/papers all full of bad news,why is that ?
It seems they are keeping it secret about these "winners" thuere must be people who win right ?i've often mused about bringing out a paper with only good news in it!