10 years from now

[masonic3]

What do you see 10 years form now:

Sorry this is for my own intrest, I would like to see what the US members think and to see if its anything diffrent from other parts of the world members

Make sence?!:confused:


I see:
I see England full of people who do-not belong from over countrys, blood on the streets, I see that we have a trade war with the USA.
Relations between us and the USA spiraling into a cold war
Iran is in bits after the USA nuked it, all round that region iis in kaos.
China and Russia team up against the west, we end up doing what they say(we back down)

England is in a mess no jobs after all industry goes to other counrtys and the jobs that are left get taken up by EU workers on minmum wage.

[klinker]

What you describe is pretty much the same as the world in V for Vendetta. Children of men also has a similar society breakdown theme behind the main story.

Are we heading in that direction? Definitely. In so many ways we are already there.

[masonic3]

What you describe is pretty much the same as the world in V for Vendetta. Children of men also has a similar society breakdown theme behind the main story.

Are we heading in that direction? Definitely. In so many ways we are already there.

I know what you are saying, Icke started something now why don't he get up and lead us?

[klinker]

I know what you are saying, Icke started something now why don't he get up and lead us?

Now there's a question which is difficult to answer. Is Icke a leader? Maybe not and I believe it is not that simple a thing to do anyway. He has his own personal battles to fight against the machine which is why those who live life in the mainstream think he's a nutter. For the most part we can follow by digesting the information he puts out and doing our own research and speaking up.

Maybe he is already leading us. Depends upon how you define leadership. Leadership for me is having the ability to positively influence the actions and behaviour of others without using rank or authority. On that basis we are all capable of leading.

:)

[limelady]

Why should David Icke lead us?

He writes books about what he has learnt.....he shares his knowledge. Why would you expect its his job to lead us? Everything he has ever written or spoken about was intended for the benefit of US learning how to empower ourselves.....take back our power from those we have allowed to lead us and control us. We have been giving that power away to others for far too long.

Have you ever read a David Icke book? If you have, you certainly came away with the wrong end of the stick! If you still need somebody to lead you, then I suggested you still have a lot of work to do on yourself.

[deca]

I see a more segagrated future
If you go along with the system and are useful you will leave in a nice area well protected it will be a prison but sort of nice fluffy one .
If you don`t fit in or been kicked out of the above it will be hard, sort of waste land
Think most people will be chipped, have to get get scaned to enter tesco or shopping areas.
I hope this bleak vison of the future does not happon but I think it will slowliy creep in little by little.

[freedomiswithinyou]

I see the world becoming more and more centralised especially after May 2009 when the Uk will no longer be a country. There will be the European, Pacific and American unions. I believe there will probably be a problem-reaction-solution event in which the European and American unions will declare war on the Pacific Union made up mostly by China with Russia probably involved somewhere. The European and American unions will join together to form the world government and defeat the pacific union and maybe Russia. Soon after once police laws are more tougher even than they are now microchipping will become compulsory. Most people will get it implanted without arguement. Those who say no will be labeled as rebels and be hunted down by the world army. Of course none of this has to happen we can say no to it all now....

[heretic]

Firstly, do you even read your own posts and check them for spelling mistakes? There is a built in checker for this. Or are you so possessed by some evil shit that you can't even do that? Secondly, What the hell is the deal with your ugly avatar?

[phenylamine]

I see a bright future for the human race,relatively conflict free and with most or all of us having the ability and opportunity to feed and shelter ourselves.I see an enlightened human race that can see divisions for what they are,nonexistent.I see a future in which we all work towards the one common interest we should(and can)all have,the continued existence of our race(human)and a decent quality of life for all who choose and work for it.
Is this the future I see in ten years?,no
I see the time frame as being somewhat irrelevent other than the sooner it all comes crashing down(and it wont be pretty folks,lots of death and misery await)the sooner we can start rebuilding.The longer we prop it up trying to avoid the chaos that will accopany the crash the worse it will be when it inevitably comes.

Peace

[azure]

Well, it seems like that 2012 is their scheduled date for Project Blue Beam and the completion of the Great Work, global government et al. I would imagine before then World War III will have already erupted -- attacking Iran which will bring in China/Russia, etc. I assume they also want the population reduction complete by that time -- global population down to between 500 million and 1 billion.

So, by 2017, I figure what's left of the human race will either have been living in hell (microchipped, no independent thought, complete robotic slavery) for some time, or will have turned things around/be in the process of turning things around.

[intruder]

unisex bathrooms for all!!!

[tinmenace]

I know what you are saying, Icke started something now why don't he get up and lead us?



This is your problem. You're looking for someone to follow, you're looking for someone to think for you. This need has you imprisoned in an insecure shell of doubt.

David is not the Messiah or some cult leader. David shares information that we all have a right to know about. What we do with that information is up to us. Most people that actually get what David is talking about become free of needing to be led. Free of outside thought and influences. This is what it's about. It's not about some person leading the masses to Utopia. It's about freeing your mind and your soul and ridding yourself of illusions, delusions and dark energy.

From your original post, I can tell that there isn't one positive thought or vibe around you. Do you know why? Because you've surrounded yourself with masonic thought which is dark and sinister in nature.

You need to stop kidding yourself about who you really are, because seriously...you're not fooling everyone. If you want to be happy and have a positive future, you need to stop thinking negative thoughts and get the heck away from the Freemasons just as quickly as you feet will carry you.

That will make you feel a whole lot better already. Oh, and by the way, get rid of all that negative symbolism around you, especially if you wear it as jewelry. Don't let any of that nasty stuff touch your skin. Do not lay your eyes adoringly on any masonic symbols. Trash every one of them, no matter how much you paid for it. Just the cleansing of your environment will lighten your heart and soul, and maybe you'll come back and say something like,

"In ten years time, I see the end of famine and cancer....I see clean drinking water for every living creature on this planet, I see fresh air and nourishing food, I see peace and tranquility...."

[llogun]

i see a world that dont have masons in it:)

[freedomiswithinyou]

This is your problem. You're looking for someone to follow, you're looking for someone to think for you. This need has you imprisoned in an insecure shell of doubt.

David is not the Messiah or some cult leader. David shares information that we all have a right to know about. What we do with that information is up to us. Most people that actually get what David is talking about become free of needing to be led. Free of outside thought and influences. This is what it's about. It's not about some person leading the masses to Utopia. It's about freeing your mind and your soul and ridding yourself of illusions, delusions and dark energy.

From your original post, I can tell that there isn't one positive thought or vibe around you. Do you know why? Because you've surrounded yourself with masonic thought which is dark and sinister in nature.

You need to stop kidding yourself about who you really are, because seriously...you're not fooling everyone. If you want to be happy and have a positive future, you need to stop thinking negative thoughts and get the heck away from the Freemasons just as quickly as you feet will carry you.

That will make you feel a whole lot better already. Oh, and by the way, get rid of all that negative symbolism around you, especially if you wear it as jewelry. Don't let any of that nasty stuff touch your skin. Do not lay your eyes adoringly on any masonic symbols. Trash every one of them, no matter how much you paid for it. Just the cleansing of your environment will lighten your heart and soul, and maybe you'll come back and say something like,

"In ten years time, I see the end of famine and cancer....I see clean drinking water for every living creature on this planet, I see fresh air and nourishing food, I see peace and tranquility...."

That couldn't have been said better Tinmenace! You're right David is no great leader or Messiah he is just sharing information that may be benificial to us. It is great to think positively but we shouldn't just ignore what the Illuminati do. We should all as one infinite whole go to them and simply say "No" and then laugh and rejoice. There is no need for violence or anything, if we do that then there is no more fear.

[tinmenace]

That couldn't have been said better Tinmenace! You're right David is no great leader or Messiah he is just sharing information that may be benificial to us. It is great to think positively but we shouldn't just ignore what the Illuminati do. We should all as one infinite whole go to them and simply say "No" and then laugh and rejoice. There is no need for violence or anything, if we do that then there is no more fear.

Thank you, I appreciate that. :)

[truthcommission]

Sorry this is for my own intrest...
Part of the problem is that the world is controlled; (in a very loose sense) by (mind control) societies such as the Freemasons.

[whitenight639]

I see a bright future for the human race,relatively conflict free and with most or all of us having the ability and opportunity to feed and shelter ourselves.I see an enlightened human race that can see divisions for what they are,nonexistent.I see a future in which we all work towards the one common interest we should(and can)all have,the continued existence of our race(human)and a decent quality of life for all who choose and work for it.
Is this the future I see in ten years?,no
I see the time frame as being somewhat irrelevent other than the sooner it all comes crashing down(and it wont be pretty folks,lots of death and misery await)the sooner we can start rebuilding.The longer we prop it up trying to avoid the chaos that will accopany the crash the worse it will be when it inevitably comes.

Peace

I see it much like you, i think a leader will need to emerge and groups that share common goals need to merge, eg greenpeace and 911truthers ect although these groups miss common issues that are somewhat more important than saving whales and monkeys. we need a document that everone believes in, a few pointers on how the decisions would be made after the bloody fight and fall of the NWO (im sorry limelady i dnt see as you and i think there are more people that think my way, in that there will have to be force to move our governments out of power there not going to lie down and they use such force on us and even worse on innocent civilians in Iraq. it will take more than wishfull thinking). I see a proper democracy where everyone votes and people live with better social lives, disposable income and corparations will have a limit on how much profit they can make, all banks, power stations and other utilities will be owned by the REAL democratic state, and we will all vote by txt, fone, internet. every weekend on new policys.

[truthcommission]

i think a leader will need to emerge and groups that share common goals need to merge, eg greenpeace and 911truthers ect although these groups miss common issues that are somewhat more important than saving whales and monkeys.
Hitler anyone?

limelady i dnt see as you and i think there are more people that think my way, in that there will have to be force to move our governments out of power...
Agree or die?

I see a proper democracy where everyone votes..
Democracy truly is hypocrisy.

[whitenight639]

It's not about some person leading the masses to Utopia. It's about freeing your mind and your soul and ridding yourself of illusions, delusions and dark energy.

From your original post, I can tell that there isn't one positive thought or vibe around you. Do you know why? Because you've surrounded yourself with masonic thought which is dark and sinister in nature.

You need to stop kidding yourself about who you really are,

Im sorry i agree and disagree if that alowed, humans are all used to bieng led because 50,000 years ago we would have lived in tribes and times would have been more dangerous, this is why humans can be volatile and demonic, its not something the masons/ illuminatti have invented- its in our nature they just use it to there advantage. 50,000 years ago we would be much like annimals and we would have an alpha male who leads the tribe, hence why people are so easily led, and activly look for it in todays social situations. We are all a little behind in evoloution and long for the tribe activities- look at big brother and shipwrecked popular tv shows also why people join any group weather it be a knitting group or art group whatever. But on the lighter side we are all capeable of bieng loving non-vilolent, and respectfull of others.

[whitenight639]

Hitler anyone?- How is that comparable to hitler?


Agree or die? YES only our current dictators


Democracy truly is hypocrisy, How else can it be? You like how it is now, would you not be bothered to pick up your fone every weekend to vote on how you want things to be?

[truthcommission]

would you not be bothered to pick up your fone every weekend to vote on how you want things to be?
I wouldn't be bothered to pick up my phone every week simply because I KNOW it would never be answered.

Brother, you are in good hands.

[turtonlea]

This is Post number 23. That is The Day of April to Step out of the Dark.

Mr Icke worked for the BBC? If you ever need to bring attention to truth, how hard have you found it to get help from the media? Take the Film of WTC 7 building being blown up 23 minute before it happened. I have contacted every media out let.
3,500 people have signed a petition asking for the truth. Mr Icke goes on the Terry Wogan Show at Prime Time and gives you his words. The BBC refers me to the Editors Blog, where over two hundred people have left letters saying that the BBC are not coming clean. Does the truth set you free? Or does it just make you know you are a slave and you can do nothing about it. We would have been better off remaining the village idiots. Two Roses on St Georges Day says I’m Free of your lies.

[tinmenace]

...humans are all used to bieng led because 50,000 years ago...

Well, and that's why the world is in the state it's in.

Just because that's how it's been done for thousands of years, doesn't mean that it's what's right for us as a spiritual entity.

[tinmenace]

Does the truth set you free?

Of course it does. You just have to give yourself permission to be free.

[turtonlea]

;) Of course it does. You just have to give yourself permission to be free.

The big question is, Mr Ick still working for the BBC , and who will buy my Red Roses?

[phenylamine]

Does david still work for the BBC?,are you kidding?,you must not be very familiar with davids work,or did I misunderstand?
I would say with zip hesitation that david most certainly is not in the employ of the BBC or any other corporate(criminal) news syndicate.
Peace

[turtonlea]

Does david still work for the BBC?,are you kidding?,you must not be very familiar with davids work,or did I misunderstand?
I would say with zip hesitation that david most certainly is not in the employ of the BBC or any other corporate(criminal) news syndicate.
Peace

David sarted out as a Saver, a goalkeep for an English football team, He then went to work for the BBC, and was a presenter for a Snooker program on the BBC. Is it not possible for the Government run BBC and Mr Icke to mislead its viewers . In the manner and way you became aware of Mr Icke?? In this World Never Say Never, as 007 would say.

[cheeb]

Im sorry i agree and disagree if that alowed, humans are all used to bieng led because 50,000 years ago we would have lived in tribes and times would have been more dangerous, this is why humans can be volatile and demonic, its not something the masons/ illuminatti have invented- its in our nature they just use it to there advantage. 50,000 years ago we would be much like annimals and we would have an alpha male who leads the tribe, hence why people are so easily led, and activly look for it in todays social situations. We are all a little behind in evoloution and long for the tribe activities- look at big brother and shipwrecked popular tv shows also why people join any group weather it be a knitting group or art group whatever. But on the lighter side we are all capeable of bieng loving non-vilolent, and respectfull of others.

[that could ve part of the problem our evolutionary programming,i suggest we still have a tribal mentality which manifests it self in wars,football,charity events etc....but that was aeons ago and as humans we cab break free from our genes, for perhaps the first time in human history we may be able to stop evolution and live more alturistically. Maybe if the budget for war were spent on more peaceful pursuits we would have abolished war,fed the hungary and be well on the way towards exploring space both outer and inner our predestined bias towards tribal would be looking at a bigger picture the whole of humankind as a tribe.i hope this doesnt sound a bit nwo.Animals do not all have an alpha male as their leader 'bees hardly have any sterile males at all,sea horses the males give birth,and a speices of monkey, the bobolo??? reinforce their relationships within their groups with constant sex and grooming .These benign creaturures do share 99.9% of our dna and we are related to a common ancestor in the not to distant past.we can live at the north pole and under the sea we can conquer diseases that vwould have killed 100 years ago we as humanity have to cross this last triballist hurdle and then we can begin to start to realise our true potential. peace brothers and sisters

[phenylamine]

I didn't say never,or that its outright impossible,just That I personally have no doubt in my own mind.

[whitenight639]

[that could ve part of the problem our evolutionary programming,i suggest we still have a tribal mentality which manifests it self in wars,football,charity events etc....but that was aeons ago and as humans we cab break free from our genes, for perhaps the first time in human history we may be able to stop evolution and live more alturistically. Maybe if the budget for war were spent on more peaceful pursuits we would have abolished war,fed the hungary and be well on the way towards exploring space both outer and inner our predestined bias towards tribal would be looking at a bigger picture the whole of humankind as a tribe.i hope this doesnt sound a bit nwo.Animals do not all have an alpha male as their leader 'bees hardly have any sterile males at all,sea horses the males give birth,and a speices of monkey, the bobolo??? reinforce their relationships within their groups with constant sex and grooming .These benign creaturures do share 99.9% of our dna and we are related to a common ancestor in the not to distant past.we can live at the north pole and under the sea we can conquer diseases that vwould have killed 100 years ago we as humanity have to cross this last triballist hurdle and then we can begin to start to realise our true potential. peace brothers and sisters

yes we sould spend war money on feeding the starving ect! but we will never stop evolving, if we all lived peacfully and never needed to use violence then evoloution would make us not be able to get angry, cos we dont need it. Not all annimals have an alpha male but the more advanced annimals do like chimps, dogs and cats. But your right we can achieve so much as a human race if we didnt have the NWO around.


Alpha (ethology) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Social stratification - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Hunter-gatherer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
List of cognitive biases - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Collective unconscious - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

(interesting articles definetly worth a read if you got a minute)

[graflok]

Icke started something now why don't he get up and lead us?

The idea is to lead oneself.

graflok

[tinmenace]

The idea is to lead oneself.

graflok

Precisely! Don't you wish people would read his books and newsletters before running their mouths?

[whitenight639]

Precisely! Don't you wish people would read his books and newsletters before running their mouths?

Not everyone has access to his books, i mean hes written loads.

[edelweiss pirate]

This is Post number 23. That is The Day of April to Step out of the Dark.

Mr Icke worked for the BBC? If you ever need to bring attention to truth, how hard have you found it to get help from the media? Take the Film of WTC 7 building being blown up 23 minute before it happened. I have contacted every media out let.
3,500 people have signed a petition asking for the truth. Mr Icke goes on the Terry Wogan Show at Prime Time and gives you his words. The BBC refers me to the Editors Blog, where over two hundred people have left letters saying that the BBC are not coming clean. Does the truth set you free? Or does it just make you know you are a slave and you can do nothing about it. We would have been better off remaining the village idiots. Two Roses on St Georges Day says I’m Free of your lies.

The truth makes you do things like join the forum experiement and at least have the power to know you can create something better. Or at least spend a lifetime trying.

It's only the beginning of freedom road not the end.... It's a long and narrow way and there are plenty of people grazing by the wayside, not going anywhere, and trapped in an imaginary pen. But for us it really is the only way. The way forward.

[tinmenace]

Not everyone has access to his books, i mean hes written loads.

The library carries his books. You can borrow them or use a book exchange program.

My point is that you shouldn't run your mouth about something you know nothing about. It's not logical to argue about something when you don't have all the information.

[mynameis]

The Matrix must be destroyed without even firing a shot. Borg, "Resistance is Futile," the will steal your children and take them from us kicking and screaming to preserve themselves. Borg society are of us, but they are wolves in sheep's clothing. Borg are a whole different kind of human closer to a monster, which are a predatory creature like the bible speak of Zog and Magog

[whitenight639]

The library carries his books. You can borrow them or use a book exchange program.

My point is that you shouldn't run your mouth about something you know nothing about. It's not logical to argue about something when you don't have all the information.


I dont want to start an argument, but i do know a bit- i havnt read any of his books but have watched about 9hrs of his talks id say i know a little more than nothing. That said i wil be reading his books but im not the fastest reader and it will take me some time, The point is everyone is allowed there oppinion/ say, even if there totally wrong or there view is totally different to yours or mine. Maybe i will change my oppinion when i have read all his books- which is good if everyone made there mind up without ever changing it or looking at more info they would be an idiot.

[tinmenace]

Yes, read his books and suddenly things will start coming into focus. Good luck to ya!

[turquoisefyre]

Has anyone here gotten hold of "America 2014: An Orwellian Tale" by Dawn Blair?