Love will tear us apart

[teslafire]

When the routine bites hard
And ambitions are low
And the resentment rides high
But emotions wont grow
And were changing our ways,
Taking different roads
Then love, love will tear us apart again

Why is the bedroom so cold
Turned away on your side?
Is my timing that flawed,
Our respect run so dry?
Yet theres still this appeal
That weve kept through our lives
Love, love will tear us apart again

Do you cry out in your sleep
All my failings expose?
Get a taste in my mouth
As desperation takes hold
Is it something so good
Just cant function no more?
When love, love will tear us apart again

What was he on about?
Was he just confused?

[Anders Lindman]

Full love must obviously also involve an intersubjective dimension, i.e. the love then is not only in each person's mind and emotions as separate subjective experiences but also a field that is produced between individuals, a shared unified field. When the intersubjective dimension is lacking, love turns into a feeling of loneliness.

Carl Jung Jr. :D

[adramelech]

Anything in excess will create a force powerful enough to tear apart what is around it. Balance is necessary in all areas.

[oneofmany]

I think thats the smartest thing ive read from you. Well Done :) you got it for mine

[Anders Lindman]

Maybe you are trying to suck love from her. A kind of subconscious psychic vampirism. If that is the case, then the more you cling to her, the more she will try to run away. Maybe being needy and clinging is ALWAYS a form of psychic vampirism, even though we are not consciously aware of it?

[Anders Lindman]

But that's on the conscious level. Probably in virtually all people there is a conflict between the thinking mind and the subconscious mind. Our thoughts say one thing but the subconscious is operating below the radar of our conscious awareness so to speak. And that could explain why relationships often break down. The subconscious is experiencing a constant feeling of lack like a black hole, and tries all the time to fill that sense of lack, which turns us into psychic vampires without us even being aware of it!

[Anders Lindman]

Yes! I think Bruce Lipton's description of the subconscious is more or less correct. Here is an audio interview with Bruce Lipton (about biology of beliefs, the subconscious etc):

http://exploreyourspirit.com/shows/Explore_Your_Spirit_with_Kala-Biology_of_Belief.mp3

[eternal_spirit]

I've lived alone for 3 years. before that I lived with a woman for 13 years!
We were very much in love at times and both experienced every emotion in the book.(if there was a book of love)

Anway I loved her too much, I wanted to be with her and would avoid being with other people, she felt the same way, until the last few years of the relationship she wanted someone new. Maybe it was the rock n roll style arguments ( but i had reached the stage of not arguing and accepting eachother for what we where) and the fact she said she thought I didn't love her anymore(which I did)

Anway she got pregnant now lives with another man, the kid might be mine:mad: it's painfull to be in love at times but worse to be alone. So maybe too much love can tear us apart!

Seems she sold out for money and a bigger house:( and couldn't cope with my conspiracy research... and my obsession with creating my own music which I haven't (YET) converted into cash! so if I get a bit angry at times now you know why.

[Anders Lindman]

I think what we call the subconscious is not only limited to the individual person but also connected to the entire world and to the rest of the universe and beyond. The concept of infinity is easy to grasp when we think of it in a non-separate way. Only separate things can be counted or measured. But to the "no thing" that holds it all together, even things like 'infinite' is only about separate things and cannot touch it.

[tru3]

What was he on about?
Was he just confused?

my take:

it's about regret.
it's about love won, then lost, yet still cherished, the illusion of it, the reality of it.
it's about falling down, getting up, and trying again.

one man's opinion. :)

[tru3]

well said. i would add that with forgiveness, love redeems. :)

[bigus_dickus]

true love is free and unconditional. it means that you don't have a point of reference for conditions, no ego to identify with and attach the condition to. as a result, you love yourself as much as you love everything that exists. not more, or less.

but where do you find it? not in another person, or object. if that's where you are looking for it, then it will surely become a condition, maybe an attachment, which will open the heart chakra more, close the others, make you become blind to the truth and less intelligent, not to mention physical ill, or worse, dead.

the feeling is great, but it is only a glimpse of what is there, maybe waiting forever. that's why it can become a drug, if you are not able to let go. everything people do, even destroying themselves in all possible ways, they do it because they seek true love and think that other people stand in their way to find it.

[eternal_spirit]

If we crave love then maybe that's out natural state of being.

[teslafire]

If we crave love then maybe that's out natural state of being.

Or maybe just craving is our natural state of being. :)

[ho1ogram]

What was he on about?
Was he just confused?

Well, if it's the same Ian Curtis who sings on my Joy Division records that we're talking about....

Anyway, how do you define love? (that's a rhetorical question)

I think he is just saying that he feels empty but there is an undertone of something else that he knows is love and the frustration of not being able to experience and express it is tearing them aprt. Taking out their frustrations on each other. You know, taking it out on the ones you love and all that.

And just cos he wrote it doesn't mean he didn't change his mind later on. The problem with published music is that your stuck with it. Especially when it becomes an iconic song. The energy of the song and lyrics was frozen in time and attached to him. An example of creating our own reality, perhaps?

Good song but. :D