Is David Icke a reptilian?

[canadianvandal]

Is he? I don't think he is a bad one but a good one.

[octopusrex]

You should be asking yourself is YOU are a reptilian!

[revolutionary_jam]

there isn't enough options, life isn't black and white

[funkygibbon]

Shouldn't this poster be banned immediately?

If not, why not?

Is it anything to do with financial contributions to this forum/website?

[canadianvandal]

lol no I don't need to ask my self that question
hahaha why would I be banned for making a poll asking if you think he is one
If I was banned wouldn't that just confirm the question?

haaa silly people :D



is you a reptilian haaa

[seer74]

of COURSE Icke is a reptilians!!! He's HUMAN isn't he???:cool:

[seer74]

Shouldn't this poster be banned immediately?

If not, why not?

Is it anything to do with financial contributions to this forum/website?

well now that depends on the INtent behind the post, If the intent is to ATTACK Icke, then I'd say yes, but considering the poster acknowledges NOT ALL reptiles are Illuminati/NWO then this post falls into the category of FREE SPEECH and is not an attack on Icke.

[gordonfreeman]

David Icke? I don't know, he is few and far between for being a human or non-human being disguised as a human.

[paganus]

it doesnt matter.good is good regardless of packaging!:cool:

[canadianvandal]

it doesnt matter.good is good regardless of packaging!:cool:

exactly, I don't believe all reptilians are evil just like not all humans are evil

George Bush evil
Me not so evil

[seer74]

exactly, I don't believe all reptilians are evil just like not all humans are evil

George Bush evil
Me not so evil

so, now I am wondering, if you don't think it matters if he's a reptile then why run a poll about it?

encourageing debate?

or just to make the point there's reptiles on the "good" side?

questions not a stab at you or anything, just wondering.

[swiftlouie143]

There is no such thing as a "good" reptilain the way there society is set up they DONT have that option. You either work for the ones on top and live or dont follow orders and die. Thats just the way there structured, they dont have tolerance for alt-views.

You have to remeber the plan in the future is too stage a false alien invasion where we're rescused by what apears to be a race from outer space. That race will later reveal it's self as reptilain and say that we are the "good" reptilains and have come here to free you from the "bad" reptilains. At which time David Icke will come out and say.. "yes I tryed to free you guys from the "bad" reptilains".
You guys will buy it, you'll willfull except them as Gods and the cycle of human slavery will once agian repeat it self.

[octopusrex]

Hey, Louie..

Chill man. Smoke some rasta pasta and you too can join the legions of the Lizard King.

[swiftlouie143]

Hey, Louie..

Chill man. Smoke some rasta pasta and you too can join the legions of the Lizard King.


I see your a real intellectual, if you think im nuts.. just wait.

[seer74]

There is no such thing as a "good" reptilain the way there society is set up they DONT have that option. You either work for the ones on top and live or dont follow orders and die. Thats just the way there structured, they dont have tolerance for alt-views.

You have to remeber the plan in the future is too stage a false alien invasion where we're rescused by what apears to be a race from outer space. That race will later reveal it's self as reptilain and say that we are the "good" reptilains and have come here to free you from the "bad" reptilains. At which time David Icke will come out and say.. "yes I tryed to free you guys from the "bad" reptilains".
You guys will buy it, you'll willfull except them as Gods and the cycle of human slavery will once agian repeat it self.

I agree with you on what your saying is going to happen, but I strongly disagree about there being no good reptiles, there are. The good reptilians are outsiders and fugitives from reptilian society. They do not set themselves up as leaders though, and when some reppy comes claiming to be on our side, offering to LEAD a revolution against the bad reppys this should not be trusted. Non-oppressive reppys are just trying to live.
If Icke is a reptile he is on our side, not theirs and is very brave for trying to expose them. I'm sure that he would in that case show himself AS a reptile if that were a safe thing for him to do.

[truthdog]

I really don't know if he is one or not, but I just posted this in the shapeshifting section.. look.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/Picture1.png

[truthdog]

if anything he's a good one.. to expose all of their BS.

[octopusrex]

Making a moral judgment of an entire SPECIES is SOOOO typical of humanity.

RATS!

COCKROACHES!

This is why mankind has to be kept... Down.

[alice1111]

Well, I happen to love David and his work and if he is a reptile, that just shows me that there are good ones. And, I would ask some to check out their own reptilian brain. However you choose to look at it, we are connected in some way, like it or not.

Love,

Alice

[swiftlouie143]

if anything he's a good one.. to expose all of their BS.

Is Alex Jones a "good one" too? .. or maybe
Michael Tsarion?

Listen, these "people" are not telling to the whole truth and have there own agendas.

Number 1) .. Jesus (altho that wasn't his real name)

WAS real and WAS a black, as were the original Israelites (most of whom were sold into slavery in the U.S. and Caribbean Islands). You have these new agers like Icke and Tsarion (even maxwell) are just flat out lieing to you. Saying the bible is JUST roman pagan astrological interpretation. And you have Alex Jones acting as if he doesn't know who that the blacks of America and the Caribbean Islands are the true lost tribes of Israel.. not these so-called Jews (Ashkenazi - Zionists) who've were never even been enslaved most of whom never even visited AFRICA! let alone came from Africa (yet you people don't question them)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aTGcv6eFyM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIFQkhDQTh4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym30gW669jY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmIQs8uU6rg

I cant be the only one here who knows that Hilter was a Ashkenazi (so-called) Jew? Fathered by a Rothchild.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5zO90rgp6k

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGMWeKjCqWE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3w6pLzgwuEQ


http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/3268/ashkenazimcc6.jpg
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/2348/nazags9.jpg

But don't worry Hilter did kill of some real "Jews" during the Holocaust.. of course you wont hear about them..

http://a347.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/41/l_d16c9f116563b85d875af487dd128c32.jpg


I can't be the only one here who knows that AID's was developed by the United States and is a Race Specified Bio Weapon.. targeting a gene that only people of color possess. (used mainly the wipe out the Blacks of Africa) I also can't be the only one here who knows that knows the AID's cure was patented in 1997 patent number: #5676977 (look it up)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfWMFChwSGo

You should be asking your selfs.. why are you being lied too??.. why are these people not telling you the whole truth. Why does some random kid have to come on a forum tell you this. Ask Icke, Jones, Tsaion, Maxwell or any one us these SO CALLED alt-media personalties.. who the Israelites of the bible were and where they are today!

Ask them why they still today worship a Black Jesus and Mary in the Catholic churchs?

http://images.tribe.net/tribe/upload/photo/f41/dd9/f41dd9cc-5198-4c0e-8a6a-eeda2d553dc7

The Black Madonnas originally all had Africa features before most of them were destroyed by iconoclasts. When they were replaced, the artists retained the dark skin color but, not being familiar with real Afrikans, gave European features to the paintings. In cases where originals have survived, you may witness Africoid features on Mary and her child Jesus, such as the Black Madonna of Nuria, Spain *called "the Queen of the Pyrenees."

source: http://suzar.com/BOTW/BOTW-ch1b-pages3-4.html

You people are being LIED too and confused on purpose the people who you call Jews (Europeans not from Africa) are really what Jesus called in the bible the "Synagogues of Satan" (Satan = reptilian)
There are not who they clame to be.. and the TRUE peoples of the bible have had there history white washed and whiped out of them, they've been character assassined and denigrated.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/602/clipimage001db0.gif

And you've been programed subconsciously to fear and loath them.

There is a whole other agenda here, that you are carfuly being stared away from.. and I'm only scratching the surface here. (Does the term "master race" ring a bell?)

It's time to start asking questions... because if you don't your going to fall flat on your faces to worship the first blonde haired blue eyed Jesus savoir figure they throw at you, and believe me people its coming... (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=project+blue+beam+false+alien+invasion&btnG=Search)

[humanswin]

Whoa..that is quite a picture of icke!It should be on real shapeshifters,with the other similar media..holograms,demon morphing gin,shapeshifting mexican girls...well that is about it,this part of the icke forum is officially in the crapper...congratulations...all of you(one of you?),rather some of you.Mission accomplished! Operation total disinfo a smashing success!....That's ok,you can never touch my bush vid..you can steal it(some did) and let people put up ignorant and un-countered comments(you do)..but most people can smell bullshit,and they know where to go for some reality.

[swiftlouie143]

Whoa..that is quite a picture of icke!It should be on real shapeshifters,with the other similar media..holograms,demon morphing gin,shapeshifting mexican girls...well that is about it,this part of the icke forum is officially in the crapper...congratulations...all of you(one of you?),rather some of you.Mission accomplished! Operation total disinfo a smashing success!....That's ok,you can never touch my bush vid..you can steal it(some did) and let people put up ignorant and un-countered comments(you do)..but most people can smell bullshit,and they know where to go for some reality.
I'm pretty sure the image truthdog captured came from this first video:

http://www.youtube.com/v/X1WZJerlkLA&rel=1&border=1
http://www.youtube.com/v/ERsLy8Dks6w&rel=1&border=1

[daveybpl]

It's time to start asking questions... because if you don't your going to fall flat on your faces to worship the first blonde haired blue eyed Jesus savoir figure they throw at you, and believe me people its coming... (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=project+blue+beam+false+alien+invasion&btnG=Search)

give us a bit more credit louie, the fact that most of us on this site see through the bullshit on a daily basis means well i hope it means we would see through some return of christ rubbish

as for icke being a reptile? well you never know

has he always known he was a reptile? was it when he discovered the reptile connection? was it after the ayuwaska experience?

i personaly don't think he is but i could be wrong, after all i might turn into one in 2012;):)

[swiftlouie143]

hehe, well im glad your intelligent dave :)

But I had to put it out there as a warning, even tho you and I know the truth. 85% of the worlds population would/will fall for it (project blue beam)

They've been experimenting with it some time now, creating holographic UFO's and holographic virgin marys.. the virgin mary stuff has atracted a whole cult following..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0pUQW0q3m4I

but back to the "good reptilian" thing.. I see calling reptilains "good" as a dangerous and slippery slope. Seeing as tho they've inslaved you and your ansestors from as far back as our history goes. Now David Icke comes along and regurgitates information that has been out for ages and people wana say that there are "good" reptilians?

No one finds it strange that many others have been talking about reptilains or greys such as Alex Collier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvw97yJrO0Q) (who was shut up by the military) or Bill Cooper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWbZF9Bpeqk) (who was murdered) or Dr.Malachi Z. York (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vWug8iNuF8)(who was imprisoned)

But Dave Icke hits the sene and becomes a house hold name nearly over night?

Sure, you go ahead and jump on the next underground train with your "good reptailins" you David Icke, Alex Jones, Ron Paul and the Queen can have tea toghter. :D

As for me, I know better than to trust snakes..

[truthdog]

Humanswin..

It's me Wolfzoflight from youtube

I only found the picture on a video. Chill.geesh.

[seer74]

lost tribes of Israel.. not these so-called Jews (Ashkenazi - Zionists) who've were never even been enslaved most of whom never even visited AFRICA! let alone came from Africa (yet you people don't question them)

It's time to start asking questions... because if you don't your going to fall flat on your faces to worship the first blonde haired blue eyed Jesus savoir figure they throw at you, and believe me people its coming... (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=project+blue+beam+false+alien+invasion&btnG=Search)

OK, not that I agree with the other view either, but I believe you are mistaken here as well. You see, the Biblical people of Isreal were not from Africa either, the Father of the Isrealites, Abraham, was from Sumeria, Mesopotamia, known today as Iraq. The only presence of the Biblical Isrealites in Africa was as captives in Egypt. Biblical Isreal (if you believe the BIble) were SEMITES, which means ARABS, not African OR Ashkenazi. Not that race is important. It seems to me that you are perpetuating (from a different angle) the same old racist nonsense.

I do agree though that its time to start asking questions.

[swiftlouie143]

The Israelite of the bible were (and are) many places, but they were inslaved in the bible in Egypt (Kemet.. in Africa) where the people were black.

There ARE lightskined or Mixed Israelites
http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/8574/israelithi7.jpg
http://www.culture-routes.lu/uploaded_files/infos/me/00000749/00000749_2.jpg

And Hilter and the Nazi's did target them in the Holocaust (because they have black / Israelite blood in them), but Hilter, the Rothchilds and the rest of the Zionists are NOT from the seed of Abraham. You may not know this but Hilter DID.. The Ashkenazi jew is not a real jew (from the tribe of Judah) at all they converted.. they ARE Khazars.

http://www.biblestudysite.com/13tribe.gif

"that the Khazars too claimed the status of a Chosen Race, who made their own Covenant with the Lord, even though they were not descended from Abraham's seed."

http://www.apfn.org/THEWINDS/library/khazars.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khazars

or google “The Khazarian Kingdom”

race is important, maybe not to you. But it is to them and since my race is being systematicly wiped out its also important to me. (doesn't make me racist)

Hilter knew were the Aryans race desented from..

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44177000/jpg/_44177209_dipsoldier_ap.jpg

(blonde haired blue eyed people: are albino hindus)

look at them they all look the same

http://www.webbusiness.no/webprivat/usa/upfiles/bush_monkey.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/graphics/2007/10/12/nharry2.jpg

http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/putin%20ahmadinejad.jpg

all one big happy indo-aryan (zionist - fake jew) family that has you fooled..


http://www.hebrewisraelites.org (for the truth)

[mike1234]

Hmmm... Are you being racist to those that have blonde hair and blue eyes?

[swiftlouie143]

Hmmm... Are you being racist to those that have blonde hair and blue eyes?

lol.. I was waiting for some one to say something like this. Yes.. Mike you got me figured out. I hate all blondes, lets kill them all! lets start with Britney?

lol dood, I dont hate any RACE .. well except Reptilians.
(I don't hate any Human race)

I'm telling the truth and it may hard to swallow for some.

The truth is colorless.. It doesn't care what Race you are (or think you are) nor do I

My ego is truth, my only bias is against liers. So we have no problems Mike :)

[mike1234]

Interesting.

[Jane643]

I really don't know if he is one or not, but I just posted this in the shapeshifting section.. look.

http://i216.photobucket.com/albums/cc309/Sparksomeart/Picture1.png
This man is not a reptilian - go to news behind the news and look at post 1181 - it is the end of satanic witchcraft in dec 2012

[octopusrex]

Louie;

I like you mon. I really do.. But you gotta go easier on snakes because guess what? In a hollographic universe, snakes is YOU.

[mike1234]

Louie are you saying you hate all races other than human races? There are lots of other good races out there.

[seer74]

lol.. I was waiting for some one to say something like this. Yes.. Mike you got me figured out. I hate all blondes, lets kill them all! lets start with Britney?

lol dood, I dont hate any RACE .. well except Reptilians.
(I don't hate any Human race)

I'm telling the truth and it may hard to swallow for some.

The truth is colorless.. It doesn't care what Race you are (or think you are) nor do I

My ego is truth, my only bias is against liers. So we have no problems Mike :)

its no good at all to HATE ANYONE, human or not. Not even the oppressors. What we need is higher frequencies, not more hateing on ANYONE. And, yes, seeing as your a HUMAN to hate reptiles is to hate yourself.

[swiftlouie143]

Louie are you saying you hate all races other than human races? There are lots of other good races out there.


wow Mike.. if I want to say something ILL SAY IT..
I NEVER said I was "racist" agaisnt blondes and I NEVER said I hate all races other than humans. Stop putting words in my mouth.. Whats wrong with you?

About hating reptilians.. yes I hate, my hate is a form of anger. When your being opressed (or inslaved) turning the other cheek to your oppressors or reaching out to imbrace them out of love won't help you or your future generations. Im afraid some of you new age types are 1.) being mislead and 2.) are in for a rude awaken (esp if you live in the U.S. )

Just thinking love or freedom isnt going to change your reality if your still inslaved. (your just a loving, peacefull slave..)

If just thinking (wishing or feeling) something would manifest it into existence, than the Christains of the United States alone would have manifested a GOD to free and protect them. Your going to have to FACE and fight your enemy.. (and I yes you do have an enemy.. all of humans do) and weither you want to love them or hate them, they have plegde to destroy you!


Love, peace and happiness.. all of us humans want that.. but a false sense of it with your enemys is just another method they've used to passively subdue and control you (while they inslave you). There using our good nature against us, just as they use our bad nature agaisnt us..
It is time for humanity to wake up, face reality, stop killing each other and unite agaisnt them. Weither you like War or not War is upon us.


"Anger is a gift" - Malcolm X

[acidjazz]

Wow so what you want is quite selfish really freedom only for some is no freedom at all. Yes we need peace and love and it has to be infinite meaning to everything! not just the human race. Whether we like the reptilians or not they are a part of us they are a part of the whole and in the end it doesn't matter because even if we go on some rampage and kill them all they are still a part of us. We need to stop all this hate and begin to love.

[humanswin]

Humanswin..

It's me Wolfzoflight from youtube

I only found the picture on a video. Chill.geesh.

Thats funny..I am not doing chill at the moment.If anyone can pay attention..I am trying to say reptile woman is a hoax for as long as it has been out there.Pathetic when you think about,a phony video maker can spread dis info because he paid for advertising here..you need to wake up to this reality...grow a nut sack,and stand up for truth..thats the difference between me and you,i know how to research and can put two and two together..geeesh

[humanswin]

its no good at all to HATE ANYONE, human or not. Not even the oppressors. What we need is higher frequencies, not more hateing on ANYONE. And, yes, seeing as your a HUMAN to hate reptiles is to hate yourself.

Is it good to expose liars? What about the truth here? Just sit on your ass and do nothing,is that the way?...not for me..I commend you for being a proponent of love..but there is a serious lack of truth round here....The skunk at the garden party and damn proud of it!

[swiftlouie143]

Wow so what you want is quite selfish really freedom only for some is no freedom at all. Yes we need peace and love and it has to be infinite meaning to everything! not just the human race.



The human race is the only race inslaved on this planet if there were other races that wanted freedom they can join our struggle agaisnt the the reptilains / greys. But please, give me the name of the person(s) who told you that reptilains were ones inslaved on this planet?? I'd realy like to listening to them, because this is new info to me.

Theres always a few uncle toms who think that loving your masters will make them love you back. They dont want to love you.. don't you get it. They dont want to change. They enjoy raiding your house, raping your mother, putting your peace lovin asses in shackles to micro chip you. While there doing all that, you tell them how love you them, and see if they stop.

While you new agers are escaping reality there are people starving being shot up or bombed, they dont just need love.. they need food they need a bandage, they need some one to fight back. There is a War on Terra (earth) and when you come back down to earth and realize that "all we need is love" is just a slogin by a illumati front band. You can start to make a real change in the world by joining the rest of the human family in the struggle for freedom.


http://a734.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_8d225ff7e0e0bf25a3588e8a51670135.jpg

"When we say we desire to live in a peaceful, harmonious world, with beauty all around us; what we often really mean is that we wish we could edit out,from our view, that ugliness we don’t want to see, and which disturbs our ego’s image of perfections.
We do anything to anaesthetize our selfs from pain and from the real."

[paganus]

The human race is the only race inslaved on this planet if there were another races that wanted freedom they can join our struggle agaisnt the the reptilains / greys. But please, give me the name of the person(s) who told you that reptilains were ones inslaved on this planet?? I'd realy like to listening to them, because this is new info to me.

Theres always a few uncle toms who think that loving your masters will make them love you back. They dont want love you.. don't you get it. They dont want to change. They enjoy raiding your house, raping your mother, putting your peace lovin asses in shackles to micro chip you. While there doing all that, you tell them how love you them, and see if they stop.

While you new agers are escaping reality there are people starving being shot up or bombed. There is a War on Terra (earth) and when you come back down to earth and realize that "all we need is love" is just a slogin by a illumati front band. You can start to make a real change in the world by joining the rest of the human family in the struggle for freedom.


"When we say we desire to live in a peaceful, harmonious world, with beauty all around us; what we often really mean is that we wish we could edit out,from our view, that ugliness we don’t want to see, and wich disturbs our ego’s image of perfections.
We do anything to anaesthetize our selfs from pain and from the real."
there are a LOT of animal species enslaved by humans too.:mad:

[swiftlouie143]

there are a LOT of animal species enslaved by humans too.:mad:

... :rolleyes:

wow paganus, I didnt know we were talking about animal species now too...

Stop trying to pull rebuttals out of thin air..

I've already have Mike for that.

[acidjazz]

The human race is the only race inslaved on this planet if there were other races that wanted freedom they can join our struggle agaisnt the the reptilains / greys. But please, give me the name of the person(s) who told you that reptilains were ones inslaved on this planet?? I'd realy like to listening to them, because this is new info to me.

Theres always a few uncle toms who think that loving your masters will make them love you back. They dont want love you.. don't you get it. They dont want to change. They enjoy raiding your house, raping your mother, putting your peace lovin asses in shackles to micro chip you. While there doing all that, you tell them how love you them, and see if they stop.

While you new agers are escaping reality there are people starving being shot up or bombed, they dont just need love.. they need food they need a bandage, they need some one to fight back. There is a War on Terra (earth) and when you come back down to earth and realize that "all we need is love" is just a slogin by a illumati front band. You can start to make a real change in the world by joining the rest of the human family in the struggle for freedom.


http://a734.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_8d225ff7e0e0bf25a3588e8a51670135.jpg

"When we say we desire to live in a peaceful, harmonious world, with beauty all around us; what we often really mean is that we wish we could edit out,from our view, that ugliness we don’t want to see, and which disturbs our ego’s image of perfections.
We do anything to anaesthetize our selfs from pain and from the real."

Yes but how can we help all the people who are starving, and dying if they themselves are not aware?

Okay, so maybe they need MORE than love but do you really think giving them a bullet in the head is really going to make a bigger difference?

We need to take care of our own problems first, and then theirs. There's changes all around us even the unaware people are becoming aware. We need to have a balance between the logical side of our mind and the intuitive side.

[swiftlouie143]

Yes but how can we help all the people who are starving, and dying if they themselves are not aware?

Okay, so maybe they need MORE than love but do you really think giving them a bullet in the head is really going to make a bigger difference?


what?

do you even know what your trying to say?

[guyblokeman]

new agers like Icke

Icke aint "New Age", he actually speaks out against it///



I can't be the only one here who knows that AID's was developed by the United States and is a Race Specified Bio Weapon.. targeting a gene that only people of color possess.

Right, cause only black people get aids:confused:

[swiftlouie143]

Icke aint "New Age", he actually speaks out against it///




Right, cause only black people get aids:confused:

Did I say black people? .. I said people of color (and some "white" people have these genes) .. take the time to read what I wrote or listen the link I posted before you shoot your mouth off.

Here it is agian: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfWMFChwSGo

(Stop trying to make this a matter of race instead of a matter of fact!)

David Icke is a new ager in my opinion, I've heard him speak out agianst new age movment. But at the same time he acts as if he doesnt know that bibical story is more than just a Roman fabrication (if I can figure that out at age 24 with no funding I'm sure he could have).

New agers = one world religion Luciferians waiting to happen and they arent going to call themselfs new agers either. What you really need to do is get off Ickes nuts, just listen to his information and stop defending him like some new age cult leader.

[seer74]

New Agers = one world religion Luciferians

which is precisely what David Icke is speaking out against.

[seer74]

(Stop trying to make this a matter of race instead of a matter of fact!)



practice what you preach.

[seer74]

he acts as if he doesnt know that bibical story is more than just a Roman fabrication

I think its mostly you who acts as if he doesn't know that. Have you never noticed that Icke recognizes that the Bible has huge symbolic meaning that predates Rome?

[seer74]

What you really need to do is get off Ickes nuts, just listen to his information and stop defending him like some new age cult leader.

what YOU really need to do is get off Icke's CASE, just listen to his information and stop attacking him like some new age cult leader!!!!

[swiftlouie143]

which is precisely what David Icke is speaking out against.

Thats fine, but hes still not telling the whole truth. So im not buying it.. You can if you'd like.. like I said its my opinion.

[swiftlouie143]

what YOU really need to do is get off Icke's CASE, just listen to his information and stop attacking him like some new age cult leader!!!!

There you go agian defending him.. thats cool (only proves me point tho) I have listened to his information and I think 90% of what he's saying is dead on. Do I argee with every thing he saids? NO.. because Im not a cult follow and I can use my own brain. If you want to totaly discredit the bible and the prophets in it feel free. It's not your history anyways..

[swiftlouie143]

practice what you preach.

Are you telling me what im saying is not a fact? About the Nazi party, the Zionist (so called Jews) or the Indo-Aryan race?

If im lieing than sure, what im saying could be consider racist. But if im telling the truth.. its the truth and your getting brothered by it and feel the need to lash out.

The truth only hurts the guilty ...

[seer74]

Thats fine, but hes still not telling the whole truth. So im not buying it.. You can if you'd like.. like I said its my opinion.

of course he's not telling telling the whole truth, and neither are you, and neither am I. No one ever could, do you have any idea how long it would take for anyone to tell the WHOLE truth? that would be an impossible task. Icke is; however in my OPINION one who does his best to tell as much of the truth as possible, to the best of his ability. (i find his ability quite impressive, and yours not so very, though I'm sure like Icke and like myself your trying your best)

[seer74]

Are you telling me what im saying is not a fact? About the Nazi party, the Zionist (so called Jews) or the Indo-Aryan race?

If im lieing than sure, what im saying could be consider racist. But if im telling the truth.. its the truth and your getting brother by it and feel the need to lash out.

The truth only hurts the guilty ...

I'm not lashing out, simply exchangeing thoughts.
I am neither guilty nor hurt, I am merely seeking the truth, and i believe you to be in ERROR (not lieing, no, i do not percieve dishonesty on your part, simply error)

[swiftlouie143]

I'm not lashing out, simply exchangeing thoughts.
I am neither guilty nor hurt, I am merely seeking the truth, and i believe you to be in ERROR (not lieing, no, i do not percieve dishonesty on your part, simply error)

Ok, well if your seeking the truth look into what I posted, im trying to unravel history here. Not hurt feelings.. (I didn't create the history & I certainly didnt create racism) I'm just putting it toghter for people who'd like to figure it out. And as always I expect some people to take what im saying as a personal attack. Im not saying you.. im speaking in general. That just comes with the territory of truth..

[seer74]

Ok, well if your seeking the truth look into what I posted, im trying to unravel history here. Not hurt feelings.. (I didn't create the history & I certainly didnt create racism) I'm just putting it toghter for people who'd like to figure it out. And as always I expect some people to take what im saying as a personal attack. Im not saying you.. im speaking in general. That just comes with the territory of truth..

I have seen your posts, I do not react to things without first evaluating them. I have seen and evaluated your posts and find you to be in serious error.

[swiftlouie143]

I have seen your posts, I do not react to things without first evaluating them. I have seen and evaluated your posts and find you to be in serious error.

Then please make this error known to me, and prove it so I can correct this error..

[guyblokeman]

Then please make this error known to me, and prove it so I can correct this error..

For starters you think that DI is New Age.

[jambolina62]

It seems that there is an agenda to cause pain, suffering, anarchy, despair etc. etc. in this plane of existance. It goes back an awful long way, thousands of years. Whatever it is that is at work, causing us to kill and hate, must be fought against.
Humans and animals suffer every day because of it. We should not differentiate between humans and other species, because we are One and the Same. We all possess the same essence. From the One we came and to the One we shall return.
We, as a species, have the potential within ourselves to overcome this problem. Love is the only answer. As Ghandi said, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind, and we are blind. We are guilty of it every day.

As much as I appreciate David's work and am very glad that he has come to the fore (because without him becoming mainstream, many people would not know anything about these matters), I look past all that has been and is being said, to what is the only Truth. Love is the Truth. It is the only thing that really matters.
And whilst we all toil away in every day jobs that we bloody well can't stand, worry about paying the bills, getting up tight about all kinds of crap, we've got to remember the Truth. Whatever the 'real' history is of ourselves, if we look inward and discover our true potential, then all the pain in this existence can and will be beaten.

This is just my opinion.

[swiftlouie143]

For starters you think that DI is New Age.

That's my opinion... You can't prove or disprove my opinion.

[guyblokeman]

That's my opinion... You can't prove or disprove my opinion.

The fact that you hold that opinion shows your logic is compromised.

You make the claim Icke is New Age but you also back it up with nothing. What specific veiws make Icke New Age?

[seer74]

Then please make this error known to me, and prove it so I can correct this error..

well first of all in calling DI "new age". anybody who calls DI new age must not know his work very well at all. so in proof of that error I say go read Icke's books a little more thoroughly.

you speak of "hateing reptilians". it strikes me that because DI admonishes not to hate them, and you being so full of hate for the reptilians your defense mechanism for clinging to your NON-loveing outlook on the reptilians is to label DI "new age" which he is most certainly NOT at all. Since you consider the Bible to be more than just prison religion propaganda (which I do as well though in a very different way from just about anyone else that I know of) I will quote to you the words of Y'shua "Love your enemys and pray for those who do you harm.".

you make assertions about Icke that can only come from not being very familliar with his work. like Icke thinks the bible is a Roman invention, if you knew Icke's work very well you would know that he considers it far older than Rome.

a less important error but an error nonetheless; you assert that the Hebrews were African. Well if you believe the Bible as you say then you should know that the Hebrew people originated in what is known today as Iraq and were from the same gene pool as the Arabs, since the Torah (Old Testament), Talmud, etc. are the only sources for their even haveing BEEN an Israel prior to the Roman Empire their info regarding the origins of Israel is what one must go on if one is to believe they existed at all. The medieval depictions of Jesus as black pretty much boil down to ignorant Europeans failing to distinguish between those races with darker skin than our own, in the eyes of europe back then arabs and africans may as well have been the same SO...
and the fact that this topic is even mentioned on this thread starts with your more serious error of posting as if race mattered at all.

and if there are NO good reptilians there are no good humans, you evil human, you.

[octopusrex]

The human race is the only race inslaved on this planet if there were other races that wanted freedom they can join our struggle agaisnt the the reptilains / greys. But please, give me the name of the person(s) who told you that reptilains were ones inslaved on this planet?? I'd realy like to listening to them, because this is new info to me.

Theres always a few uncle toms who think that loving your masters will make them love you back. They dont want to love you.. don't you get it. They dont want to change. They enjoy raiding your house, raping your mother, putting your peace lovin asses in shackles to micro chip you. While there doing all that, you tell them how love you them, and see if they stop.

While you new agers are escaping reality there are people starving being shot up or bombed, they dont just need love.. they need food they need a bandage, they need some one to fight back. There is a War on Terra (earth) and when you come back down to earth and realize that "all we need is love" is just a slogin by a illumati front band. You can start to make a real change in the world by joining the rest of the human family in the struggle for freedom.


http://a734.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_8d225ff7e0e0bf25a3588e8a51670135.jpg

"When we say we desire to live in a peaceful, harmonious world, with beauty all around us; what we often really mean is that we wish we could edit out,from our view, that ugliness we don’t want to see, and which disturbs our ego’s image of perfections.
We do anything to anaesthetize our selfs from pain and from the real."

Okay.. First of all, lets take rats as an example. Rats live under the boot of humanity. They get shot, poisoned, I mean.. Rats have it tough. BUT there's plenty, I do mean PLENTY of ratlovers out there. Folks like myself who appreciate the little critters for what they really are: wonderful pets.

Of course, if I am attacked by a rabid rat, I don't think I'll just say: great!

[swiftlouie143]

a less important error but an error nonetheless; you assert that the Hebrews were African. Well if you believe the Bible as you say then you should know that the Hebrew people originated in what is known today as Iraq and were from the same gene pool as the Arabs

Yes, the Hebrew Israelites were "black" or nubian people..
There are intire websites decicate to this truth..
Try : www.hebrewisraelites.net or www.hebrewisraelites.org to name a few..

Just because the Arabs live Iraq (Sumeria) now you think that the Hebrews were Arab?

Here's an Annunaki straight out of Sumeria (modern day Iraq):

http://mindwarz.com/media/system/files/images/Annunaki_wingdisc_0.jpg
looks nubian (black) to me..

You must not have watched any of the videos I posted.. well watch this one were an Arab tells you who the original Hebrews were and who the TRUE lost tribes of Isreal are today!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ym30gW669jY

or this one here, you see them depicted on temple walls.. (notice there afros & dread locks)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aTGcv6eFyM

or this one..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmIQs8uU6rg

or this one..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y620P8PvJG4

Did you watch any of these vidoes before posting?

You still havent provided any FACTS other than that Arabs live in Iraq now.. great.. Caucasians live in America now.. does that mean America never had other civilaztions before then? Your going to sound idiototic untill your able to provide some sort of PROOF a link to an article or video a picture of a tomb or any thing that states that the Isrelites were Arabs. Untill then dont post at all.. because im dealing with FACTS not belief.

As for my OPINION on David Icke (tho I normally deal with facts..) But since you people feel I'm unjustly attacking your leader..

I'll fill you in on the serveral peices of evidence I'm bases my opinions off of..

Number 1.) He acts as if the bible is only a story as if he's not able to connect the dots and decifer the Roman lies from the truth.

Number 2.) He never makes the connection between reptilains and the devil of the bible. And he never talks about the true Isrelites of the bible and the false ones (zionists) who work for satan (who is reptilain)


Number 3.) He's a reptilain himself and from the votes... over

a quarter of the people here agree with me (and his is just coming from his own forums)

But dont take my word for it see for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERsLy8Dks6w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1WZJerlkLA

Number 4.) Like Alex Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlGR4xP7qmY) and the other reptilain controled alt-media David Icke hasn't been silenced, killed or put in jail. No one finds it strange that many others have been talking about reptilains or greys such as Alex Collier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvw97yJrO0Q) (who was shut up by the military) or Bill Cooper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWbZF9Bpeqk) (who was murdered) or Dr.Malachi Z.York (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vWug8iNuF8)(who was imprisoned) But Dave Icke hits the scene, regurgitates old information and becomes a house hold name nearly over night?

Number 5.) Like his reptilain friend Alex Jones, David Icke also has put photos on this website that contain subliminal messages (sex sex sex) written all over his head which can be seen in this video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UoG2m4ONJHg

Number 6.) He's got you people now thinking there are "good" reptilians because he's one.. well you show me 1 reptilain thats ever told the whole truth including David Icke and ill recaint my stance untill then you keep being fooled by snakes. I'll place my trust else where...

[trumansho]

Yes, the Hebrew Israelites were "black" or 9 ether nubian people..
There are intire websites decicate to this truth..
Try : www.hebrewisraelites.net or www.hebrewisraelites.org to name a few..

Just because the Arabs live there now you think that the Hebrews were Arab? You must not have watched any of the videos I posted.. well watch this one were an Arab tells you who the original Hebrews were and who the TRUE lost tribes of Isreal are today!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ym30gW669jY

or this one here, you see them depicted on temple walls.. (notice there afros & dread locks)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aTGcv6eFyM

or this one..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmIQs8uU6rg

or this one..

http://youtube.com/watch?v=y620P8PvJG4

Did you watch any of these vidoes before posting?

You still havent provided any FACTS other than that Arabs live in Iraq now.. great.. Caucasians live in America now.. does that mean America never had other civilaztions before then? Your going to sound idiototic untill your able to provide some sort of PROOF a link to an article or video a picture of a tomb or any thing that states that the Isrelites were Arabs. Untill then dont post at all.. because im dealing with FACTS not belief.

As for my OPINION on David Icke (tho I normally deal with facts..) But since you people feel I'm unjustly attacking your leader..

I'll fill you in on the serveral peices of evidence I'm bases my opinions off of..

Number 1.) He acts as if the bible is only a story as if he's not able to connect the dots and decifer the Roman lies from the truth.

Number 2.) He never makes the connection between reptilains and the devil of the bible. And he never talks about the true Isrelites of the bible and the false ones (zionists) who work for satan (who is reptilain)


Number 3.) He's a reptilain himself and from the votes... over

a quarter of the people here agree with me (and his is just coming from his own forums)

But dont take my word for it see for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERsLy8Dks6w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1WZJerlkLA

Number 4.) Like Alex Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlGR4xP7qmY) and the other reptilain controled alt-media David Icke hasn't been silenced, killed or put in jail. No one finds it strange that many others have been talking about reptilains or greys such as Alex Collier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvw97yJrO0Q) (who was shut up by the military) or Bill Cooper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWbZF9Bpeqk) (who was murdered) or Dr.Malachi Z.York (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vWug8iNuF8)(who was imprisoned) But Dave Icke hits the scene, regurgitates old information and becomes a house hold name nearly over night?

Number 5.) Like his reptilain friend Alex Jones, David Icke also has put photos on this website that contain subliminal messages (sex sex sex) written all over his head which can be seen in this video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UoG2m4ONJHg

Number 6.) He's got you people now thinking there are "good" reptilians because he's one.. well you show me 1 reptilain thats ever told the whole truth including David Icke and ill recaint my stance untill then you keep being fooled by snakes. I'll place my trust else where... Louis, I don't know why u bother debating with some of these people that be drowning in the nile(denial) everybody know that civilization started in Africa or whatever it was named and all religions were broken up from African beliefs. And we both know alot of stuff was stolen and corrupted just like some believed that KEMET was a white civilization then why does Heremahket/sphinx look caucasoid? Black people are the original people of this planet whether people want to acknowledge it or not and the original MOORS,HEBREWS and KEMETIANS were BLACK.

[seer74]

no , the Hebrew people were not Arabs persay, they were descended from the same ancestor as arabs, Abraham, from Mesopotamia. I'm certainly not in denial I'm just not silly. LMAO the earliest known civilization was in mesopotamia NOT africa. africa didn't have civilization until centuries later when the Aryan brotherhood added egypt to the empire they began building in mesopotamia. The hebrew people came out of mesopotamia in order to ESCAPE the disease that is Aryan civilization, only to find themselves there again generations later as slaves in egypt. hebrews were cousins of the arabs and from the same gene pool, if you insist on believeing there even WAS an ancient hebrew race that is, because the only sources that indicated such a people existed at all indicate that they were an offshoot of the arab peoples. I actually don't know why you bother to debate this either, but for different reasons. your position holds no water whatsoever.

If you think that the sumerian image you post looks nubian then like so many people you are seeing what you want to see, those images do not look nubian AT ALL.

geez everybody wants to think THEIRS is the "chosen people of god"
now that I think about it more, I'm not sure why I'M debateing with you. You're the one who thinks race matters, not me LOL

[seer74]

to return to my main point, Louis, the most serious errors I meant to contest were as follows:

A) your HATRED.

B) your idea that race is so damn important.

C) your efforts to label someone (DI) new age without knowing their position.

[seer74]

and the reason why people like Icke, and Alex Jones are no longer being murdered and imrisoned like they used to is because there's SO MANY more of them these days and the Elite know that if they take action against all of them they are proveing that what they say is true, and the Elite are not that stupid as to continue creating martyrs.

[trumansho]

no , the Hebrew people were not Arabs persay, they were descended from the same ancestor as arabs, Abraham, from Mesopotamia. I'm certainly not in denial I'm just not silly. LMAO the earliest known civilization was in mesopotamia NOT africa. africa didn't have civilization until centuries later when the Aryan brotherhood added egypt to the empire they began building in mesopotamia. The hebrew people came out of mesopotamia in order to ESCAPE the disease that is Aryan civilization, only to find themselves there again generations later as slaves in egypt. hebrews were cousins of the arabs and from the same gene pool, if you insist on believeing there even WAS an ancient hebrew race that is, because the only sources that indicated such a people existed at all indicate that they were an offshoot of the arab peoples. I actually don't know why you bother to debate this either, but for different reasons. your position holds no water whatsoever.

If you think that the sumerian image you post looks nubian then like so many people you are seeing what you want to see, those images do not look nubian AT ALL.

geez everybody wants to think THEIRS is the "chosen people of god"
now that I think about it more, I'm not sure why I'M debateing with you. You're the one who thinks race matters, not me LOLOh please I'm not going to debate with you,because the proof is inthe pudding this was original a black planet/universe and when it cleanse it self in 2012 and start over again it will be black again. The Alpha and the Omega we are like parasites on this earth some good and some bad you can deny or try to dispute things with your white washed bs,but like I said the proof is in the pudding and don't get me started,because I will GO IN!

[octopusrex]

HEY!

BE HERE NOW!

Besides, everybody knows the world belongs to the Dinosaurs.

[seer74]

Oh please I'm not going to debate with you,because the proof is inthe pudding this was original a black planet/universe and when it cleanse it self in 2012 and start over again it will be black again. The Alpha and the Omega we are like parasites on this earth some good and some bad you can deny or try to dispute things with your white washed bs,but like I said the proof is in the pudding and don't get me started,because I will GO IN!

OK, ONE thing i do agree with you on here is that the black race is the oldest of human races, but all this idea I'm seeing of being able to determine who the good guys are based on the color of their skin is absolute RUBBISH, its RACIST BULLSHIT.

[swiftlouie143]

OK, ONE thing i do agree with you on here is that the black race is the oldest of human races, but all this idea I'm seeing of being able to determine who the good guys are based on the color of their skin is absolute RUBBISH, its RACIST BULLSHIT.

I'm dont think black people are good and white people are bad (i cant speak for trumansho.. personaly I find what he's saying embarassing ) I personaly am just trying to tell the truth on who the Hebrews of the bible were.. for the benfit of ALL people. Becuase I dont want ANY truth-seeking person to fall for a false (blonde haired blue eyed) messiah if he may come..

[seer74]

well, i certainly wouldn't want anyone to fall for a false messiah either and the elite certainly have one on the way. but let me ask you this question, how do you know when he shows up he won't be black? another question do you believe that a REAL messiah is coming? and if you do then believeing as you seem to that he's been here already and was at that time black that a returning messiah is neccessarily going to come in the same form as before?
my belief is that the messiah that you should be looking for should be the one that dwells within, regardless of the color of your skin.

[seer74]

now to get back on topic, my biggest problem with you on this thread is your labeling of icke as a new age pawn without even understanding his position, and hateing on him for the possibility he may be a lizard, when even those reptiles who ARE enslaveing humankind can only be defeated with love.

[swiftlouie143]

well, i certainly wouldn't want anyone to fall for a false messiah either and the elite certainly have one on the way. but let me ask you this question, how do you know when he shows up he won't be black? another question do you believe that a REAL messiah is coming? and if you do then believeing as you seem to that he's been here already and was at that time black that a returning messiah is neccessarily going to come in the same form as before?
my belief is that the messiah that you should be looking for should be the one that dwells within, regardless of the color of your skin.

I think he will come back.. only after we have changed as a people (personaly I think our DNA will be activated in the near future)

I'm not a Christian and I dont think im going to be "raptured" so for me personaly telling people who Jesus realy was is more important in terms of the truth seeking community not getting sweeped into worshiping a false messiah figure in the near future.

[seer74]

I think he will come back.. only after we have changed as a people (personaly I think our DNA will be activated in the near future)

I'm not a Christian and I dont think im going to be "raptured" so for me personaly telling people who Jesus realy was is more important in terms of the truth seeking community not getting sweeped into worshiping a false messiah figure in the near future.

this is all very off-topic for this thread. you don't seem to have any answer to my issue with the part of what you've posted that IS on topic for the thread and instead you keep dragging the thread back off-topic and onto this thing about jesus, israel, black, white etc. why can't you respond on topic?
you need to release your hate of reptiles. and again i suggest you get a better grasp of Icke's work before you label him. now, if you want to respond on topic to my on topic post please do but if you want to keep harping on the jesus/hebrew/race issue then do it on the Real Jesus thread under religion please.

[swiftlouie143]

this is all very off-topic for this thread. you don't seem to have any answer to my issue with the part of what you've posted that IS on topic for the thread and instead you keep dragging the thread back off-topic and onto this thing about jesus, israel, black, white etc. why can't you respond on topic?
you need to release your hate of reptiles. and again i suggest you get a better grasp of Icke's work before you label him. now, if you want to respond on topic to my on topic post please do but if you want to keep harping on the jesus/hebrew/race issue then do it on the Real Jesus thread under religion please.

.. u ask some questions... scroll up I was replying to them lol

but yes we are off topic.

As you can see from my previous posts I've already told you what I think of Icke and why.. I also said I agree with 90% of the things he saids. All the topics that came from the 10% I dont agree with, are what we've been going on about till now.

[seer74]

.. u ask some questions... scroll up I was replying to them lol

but yes we are off topic.

As you can see from my previous posts I've already told you what I think of Icke and why.. I also said I agree with 90% of the things he saids. All the topics that came from the 10% I dont agree with are what we've been going on about till now.

i know i went along with you on going off topic, but i am trying to get us back on topic now and as for answering me, i've posted quite a bit that is on topic, and all you've responded to till just now was the off topic stuff. OK, so there's only 10% of what DI says you that disagree with, I am the same myself I don't agree with 100% of what he says either the question isn't wether he's 100% right, its which "side" is he really on. what specifically can you point out to me that shows he's working for the elite? i've always felt that the majority of "conspiracy theorists" serve the elite (intentionally or not) by spreading fear and anger over the NWO without offering any real solutions, while Icke is very different and much more proactive at ending their dominion by stressing the importance of NOT engageing low-frequency responses to the elite's oppression of the human race but rather the importance of raiseing our consciousness (something the elite have long sought to stop us from doing) and LOVE. I find your sentiments you expressed on this thread of hate for the reptilians much more in line with the former, and not to bash you for it, but that really is only feeding them.

[swiftlouie143]

I find your sentiments you expressed on this thread of hate for the reptilians much more in line with the former, and not to bash you for it, but that really is only feeding them.

Thats fine and I agree, I dont think there is any good that can come from our realtionship with reptilains. There just too different from us, were socialy, spritualy and structurally different. They dont even have the same emotions we do, they don't feel any sorrow from eating our children or raping and toturing them before do it to get a greater high.

If they would eat there own kind I would not have an issue with them, but right now we humans need to evolve as a species and become more than just cattle, spare parts, food and play things. Maybe after we've evolved you can invite them over your place and let them eat your new borns and rape your wife. They'd like that alot im sure, it's one thing to be kind and loving and it's another thing to be naive.

Take a look at the creatures your defending and ask yourself: have they ever done any thing good for human kind or for this planet? Other than control, manipulate and inslave.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fvw97yJrO0Q

[seer74]

actually the human race IS part reptilian. and just as the human race is evolving, so are the reptilians. not all reptilians do the horrible things of which you speak, just the ones we know the most about. DO YOU do those things? No? Well, YOU are part reptilian!!! and at any rate I'm not telling you that you have to hang out with them or anything, and its true that the majority of High Aryan Reptilian Anunaki Purebloods have yet to evolve past this cruelty I Am simply asking you to release your hostility towards them, "ONLY LOVE CAN KILL A DEMON"

[swiftlouie143]

actually the human race IS part reptilian. and just as the human race is evolving, so are the reptilians. not all reptilians do the horrible things of which you speak, just the ones we know the most about. DO YOU do those things? No? Well, YOU are part reptilian!!! and at any rate I'm not telling you that you have to hang out with them or anything, and its true that the majority of High Aryan Reptilian Anunaki Purebloods have yet to evolve past this cruelty I Am simply asking you to release your hostility towards them, "ONLY LOVE CAN KILL A DEMON"

I know we're part reptilian.. we're "part" alot of different species 22, i've heard. That doesn't change the fact that reptilians are inslaving us does it? Maybe your energy could best be used to help some one A.) who needs it and B.)whos not trying to kill 90% of the human population and inslave the remainder. I don't care if your my brother... if you try and kill me or my family im going to defend myself. And If love is the way you defeat your enemys then I sincerely wish you and your family the best of luck in the near future...

[trumansho]

actually the human race IS part reptilian. and just as the human race is evolving, so are the reptilians. not all reptilians do the horrible things of which you speak, just the ones we know the most about. DO YOU do those things? No? Well, YOU are part reptilian!!! and at any rate I'm not telling you that you have to hang out with them or anything, and its true that the majority of High Aryan Reptilian Anunaki Purebloods have yet to evolve past this cruelty I Am simply asking you to release your hostility towards them, "ONLY LOVE CAN KILL A DEMON"I agree with u on thislol don't tell louis that he thinks reptillian are evil with no proof even though we have reptillian Dna within us,so I guess he hates himself.
louis, the only person that you are embarrassing is yourself by asking people to respond to topics that you are in.

[swiftlouie143]

I agree with u on thislol don't tell louis that he thinks reptillian are evil with no proof even though we have reptillian Dna within us,so I guess he hates himself.
louis, the only person that you are embarrassing is yourself by asking people to respond to topics that you are in.

Oh I get it.. If you love your self you love reptilains? And if you hate yourself you hate reptilains.. right..

So your saying reptilains are good then, I guess.. can u give me an example of the good things they've done for you or maybe for this planet?

I'm a very open minded person you know, so If I've been calling our reptilian masters evil this whole time when infact there really "good" because there "a part of me" then please inlighten me...

[octopusrex]

Seems there's nothing I can do to help you, Louie.

Ask yourself this: how does it affect you personally? Forget saving the world or telling the truth. What does it mean to you?

[guyblokeman]

but right now we humans need to evolve as a species

And we wont as long as we hold on to our anger.





it's one thing to be kind and loving and it's another thing to be naive.

Very true, which is why you need to be kind and loving, and aware.

The only thing we can really do is each become aware of their intent, and not follow.

Yes they may kill a few of us on the way, but hey, we live forever anyway.

[seer74]

its really quite simple, I'm not saying go up to a Draconian predator and try to give him a hug or anything, just that the only way to lift yourself above their influence is to raise your frequency above theirs, this means channeling love, not hate. As long as you are holding onto anger or hate you are under their influence and stuck in the frequency of consciousness they want you in
and completely under their control. for one thing the REAL enemy that rules through the reptilians is a NON-physical being that feeds off the negative, kill all the reptiles you want to you'll only make it stronger.

as for wether or not there are any good reptiles (note I'm not saying their all good, that would be ridiculous, I've heard that claim and ITS as much B.S. as the idea that none of them are good.) i cannot name specific reptilian people that are non-oppressive that you would recognize, because they mind their own business. look back at one of my earlier posts and you will find that I agreed with you we should NOT trust any reptilian that comes claiming to be the good ones and offering to lead uor revolution, the nice ones don't seek positions of leadership.

I can give you an example of a Reptile of the animal kingdom that is non-aggressive and non-carnivorous - the Iguana. Many dinosaur species were gentle herbivores as well. So if LESS evolved reptilian species can be gentle and harmless how much more so for MORE evolved reptiles? There are MANY different kinds of reptile and like us they are evolving .

[swiftlouie143]

http://img296.imageshack.us/img296/4195/55565730kn6.gifAnd we wont as long as we hold on to our anger
I though I'd adressed this before, let me put it in terms you can understand..


Humanity, and indeed this intire planet is going through a birthing process, have you ever seen a birth? A mother, normaly doesnt apear loving and peacefull untill after the birth is compete and a new life is born. Infact she may even seem a bit angery, thats because's shes fighting to push this child out the other side. While this normaly peaceful woman is screaming and cursing are you going to walk up to her in your monks robe and say "Hey lady... you wont give birth as long as you hold on to our anger"

She'd prolly slap you..

Becuase..

1.) you have no right to tell others how they should and shouldnt feel.

And..

2.) Becuase you've obiviously emtionaly anaesthetize yourself from the pain of reality, and can no longer relate to her struggle.

We are in a decontruction period right now, breaking down the foundation of lies with truth and fighting to be free.. this process is going to be violent (just as birth in). In human evolution just as in life there is a time for war and I time for peace, and right now we are at war. With ourselfs? yes of course, but mainly with our reptilain masters who are behind the manipulation thats causing the majority of human, animal and earthly suffering.. they wont let us be free or live in harmony with nature or one another. You gotta wake up! this more than a human problem mate.

We are that child trying to break free to the other side, and theres some demonic / non-human forces trying to hold us back. Like the woman screaming in the deivery room we'll have to fight with every ounce of our being if this child is to be born. It's time for those of you who have been off in own distance worlds, to come back to earth and help in this process. Grab that womans hand.. feel the force and verousity in which she squeezes back.. thats real.. thats love..


p.s. I urge you to watch these videos.. they sum up what I'm trying to say..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5CFpkz8-e_g



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jujzZ3oFk1g

[seer74]

allright, Louie, I guess you're just in labor then.

All I have left to say to you is this, when a lizard shows up in your house and wants to feed off of you physically, by all means defend yourself. But that isn't going to happen, you know why not? Because that would, for them, be an incredible waste of the lifetime supply of energy food you present them by your hatred. They are feeding off your emotions even right now and you are LETTING them.

I'm through debateing this with you. I cannot help you because you don't want to be helped. My, those are some heavy chains you've got there, hope they feel good.<<<throws hands in the air and walks away>>>

[swiftlouie143]

allright, Louie, I guess you're just in labor then.

All I have left to say to you is this, when a lizard shows up in your house and wants to feed off of you physically, by all means defend yourself. But that isn't going to happen, you know why not? Because that would, for them, be an incredible waste of the lifetime supply of energy food you present them by your hatred. They are feeding off your emotions even right now and you are LETTING them.

I'm through debateing this with you. I cannot help you because you don't want to be helped. My, those are some heavy chains you've got there, hope they feel good.<<<throws hands in the air and walks away>>>

You think they only feed off of anger? What about the churches or the new agers...

They're feeding off your ignorance..

[seer74]

They're feeding off your ignorance..

yeah, that too, they feed off of low-frequency mental states anger, hate, and yes ignorance are ALL food for the lizards, oops there I go again letting you drag me back into your little game.

[seer74]

and the only ignorance on this thread is yours, most sadly of all is your ignorance is completly volunttary, dammit there I go again.

[guyblokeman]

Humanity, and indeed this intire planet is going through a birthing process,]

This seems in contradiction to that video you supplied. He says were already perfect, Humans were created perfect. How does this relate to a birthing process?

Do you honestly believe humans are perfect? I think its painfully obvious some of us are in alot more need of evolution than others, open your eyes!




have you ever seen a birth? A mother, normaly doesnt apear loving and peacefull untill after the birth is compete and a new life is born.

Im sorry but this analogy just doesnt fit.

Your justifying your anger by comparing yourself to a mother giving birth?



Infact she may even seem a bit angery, thats because's shes fighting to push this child out the other side.

Even your admitting that the analogy doesnt fit. Your right the mother isnt angry, just in pain.




"Hey lady... you wont give birth as long as you hold on to our anger"

I hope that really you know this isnt what we`re saying.


2.) Becuase you've obiviously emtionaly anaesthetize yourself from the pain of reality, and can no longer relate to her struggle.


Your reality doesnt have to be painful, it can quite literally be what ever you want it to be, you can even not hate reptiles.

[swiftlouie143]

This seems in contradiction to that video you supplied. He says were already perfect, Humans were created perfect. How does this relate to a birthing process?

Do you honestly believe humans are perfect? I think its painfully obvious some of us are in alot more need of evolution than others, open your eyes!





Im sorry but this analogy just doesnt fit.

Your justifying your anger by comparing yourself to a mother giving birth?




Even your admitting that the analogy doesnt fit. Your right the mother isnt angry, just in pain.





I hope that really you know this isnt what we`re saying.



Your reality doesnt have to be painful, it can quite literally be what ever you want it to be, you can even not hate reptiles.


Your right!.. she's angry because she is in pain.. Is there any difference between that analogy and the plight of our planet and her inhabitants?


Anger is a gift.. like love, lust or any of the wide sprecture of emotions we humans have.. theres a time and a place for it. Does that mean I'm an "angery person?" do I look like an angery person?

Listen, saying that anger is "bad" or "wrong" doesn't make you more spiritual than I, it only makes you sound like a brainwashed android not capable of a broad spectrum of human emotions. They've got you taimed into distrusting and supressing the very nature, that would set you free from there bonade.

Then you wana sit here and "love" police me? I dont think so..
Your free to keep living in a pleasant but fictional world where peace love and karma will defeat your enemys. But quit telling me how I should feel, im intitle to my own emtionals just as your intitle to supress you own.

[seer74]

you're absolutley right, Louie, you are fully entitled to your shackles and iron bars. You poor soul.

[swiftlouie143]

you're absolutley right, Louie, you are fully entitled to your shackles and iron bars. You poor soul.

ya.. feel sorry for me seer, I need your pitty :rolleyes:

[guyblokeman]

Anger is a gift.. and like love or lust or any of the other of the wide sprecture of emotions we humans have.. theres a time and a place for it.

Yes, there is, but only if you want.

Yes humans have anger in their nature, but human nature is not fixed like you seem to think it is.

Time to realise anger is a pointless emotion.
What good does anger and hate actually bring about, please enlighten me. I would say any problem you could ever have would be solved better with a calm state of mind.

.

Then you wana sit here and "love" police me? I dont think so..
Your free to keep living in a pleasant but fictional world where peace love and karma will defeat your enemys.
.

Dont get me wrong, you get in my face and threaten me physically, I`ll put you on your ass, but I wont be angry or hate you.

I`ll still love ya louie

[seer74]

hhhmmm I'm thinking Louie here has a hard time thinking multidimensionally.

some people just don't even WANT to free their spirit.

[swiftlouie143]

hhhmmm I'm thinking Louie here has a hard time thinking multidimensionally.

some people just don't even WANT to free their spirit.

OK seer, tell me how do I free my spirit? And can my body come too?

[seer74]

to defeat your enemy you must first understand your enemy's nature. the enemy that oppresses the human race is an energy vibration. it is the frequency of lower consciousness. its trademarks are fear, ignorance, hate, and anger, in fact it IS these things, along with everything that resonates on the lower DENSE frequencies. the only way to be free from these vibrations is by resonateing on a higher frequency. why for years I was under constant attack by these demons for my efforts to inform the people around me about the way they rule and enslave us. their constant attacks had me an emotional cripple, my spirit was battered and bruised, I was inches away from suicide. the only thing that stopped it was love. when I released my fear and anger and allowed myself to recognize my enemy for an equally tortured soul as much in need of love and compassion as anyone I became immune to their attacks. SO THERE!!!:cool:

[seer74]

a truly free spirit will happily embrace the fact that the body is a temporary BURDEN.

[swiftlouie143]

to defeat your enemy you must first understand your enemy's nature. the enemy that oppresses the human race is an energy vibration. it is the frequency of lower consciousness. its trademarks are fear, ignorance, hate, and anger, in fact it IS these things, along with everything that resonates on the lower DENSE frequencies. the only way to be free from these vibrations is by resonateing on a higher frequency. why for years I was under constant attack by these demons for my efforts to inform the people around me about the way they rule and enslave us. their constant attacks had me an emotional cripple, my spirit was battered and bruised, I was inches away from suicide. the only thing that stopped it was love. when I released my fear and anger and allowed myself to recognize my enemy for an equally tortured soul as much in need of love and compassion as anyone I became immune to their attacks. SO THERE!!!:cool:

There's nothing wrong with understanding and raising our vibrations..

But were are not just spirits we have a mind, body and spirit.

How to you plan to defend your body when a U.N. troops comes to shackle you to a train? Your not free, you may have a free spirit but as I said before humans are not spirit beings. And untill you learn how to manage, take care of and at times protect, more than just the spiritual side or your being, you will not make it on this physical plane of existence. (sounds like your trying to escape it already)

"It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change." - Charles Darwin

[seer74]

like I already posted, Louie, if you are attacked physically, please feel free to defend yourself!!! I manage my physical matters believe me. However, my longterm goal is to make it OFF, NOT ON this physical plane. Why would i want to make it IN prison? I don't know about you, but I want OUT of jail, thanks:rolleyes:

[seer74]

so, yeah, How about that David Icke guy?

[swiftlouie143]

like I already posted, Louie, if you are attacked physically, please feel free to defend yourself!!! I manage my physical matters believe me. However, my longterm goal is to make it OFF, NOT ON this physical plane. Why would i want to make it IN prison? I don't know about you, but I want OUT of jail, thanks:rolleyes:

Oh, so you believe in ascension..

Why didnt you just tell me you were a new ager? :D

[guyblokeman]

Oh, so you believe in ascension..

Why didnt you just tell me you were a new ager? :D


The ascension process isnt "new age", infact its the "oldest age" on the planet;)

[swiftlouie143]

The ascension process isnt "new age", infact its the "oldest age" on the planet;)

Is that so, so tell me how this works.. this ascension. I have to first learn to love reptilains? Where will I go?

[cloudgazer]

Actually I agree with seer about only love can kill a demon.

Doesn't Jesus say "Love your Enemy" ?

[swiftlouie143]

Actually I agree with seer about only love can kill a demon.

Doesn't Jesus say "Love your Enemy" ?

No that was the Romans..

[guyblokeman]

Is that so, so tell me how this works.. this ascension. I have to first learn to love reptilains? Where will I go?

I dont think waiting out in hope of the Ascension is any way to live mind you. Yes the Ascension is documented and predicted in various cultures, but I still cant put 100% faith in this, after all, it was written by man.

You can begin your own Acsension right now, and yes, part of that includes a feeling of compassion/love for everything...

[seer74]

Yes, I believe in "ascension". But this does not make me a "new ager" see "ascension" as the new age people view it and what I am working towards (and mind you, it was you who called it ascension, not me) are two different things. I am not a "new ager" at all, and those who do fit the term will never ascend by looking at it the way they do. New agers have this delusional idea that after 2012 everything ON EARTH is going to be all cotton-candy and rainbows. They beleive the whole world will "ascend" together. I do not believe anything of the sort. I believe this world is only going to continue to fall further and further into the NWO New Age trap, and that "ascension" is an individual act of free will that one must undertake alone in order to get OFF this prison dimension.

[seer74]

I dont think waiting out in hope of the Ascension is any way to live mind you. Yes the Ascension is documented and predicted in various cultures, but I still cant put 100% faith in this, after all, it was written by man.

You can begin your own Acsension right now, and yes, part of that includes a feeling of compassion/love for everything...

very well put, guy

[swiftlouie143]

Yes, I believe in "ascension". But this does not make me a "new ager" see "ascension" as the new age people view it and what I am working towards (and mind you, it was you who called it ascension, not me) are two different things. I am not a "new ager" at all, and those who do fit the term will never ascend by looking at it the way they do. New agers have this delusional idea that after 2012 everything ON EARTH is going to be all cotton-candy and rainbows. They beleive the whole world will "ascend" together. I do not believe anything of the sort. I believe this world is only going to continue to fall further and further into the NWO New Age trap, and that "ascension" is an individual act of free will that one must undertake alone in order to get OFF this prison dimension.

Wow, this ascension sounds like the key to all of our earthly problems... So what exactly must one do to ascend? and who are the people who will not ascend and why? Oh, and can you ascend with a micro-chip embed you?

[seer74]

Wow, this ascension sounds like the key to all of our earthly problems... So what exactly must one do to ascend? and who are the people who will not ascend and why? Oh, and can you ascend with a micro-chip embed you?
do? raise your frequency above that of this dimension.
the people who will not ascend are the people who don't want to. and as far as ascending with the chip, i doubt it, sounds like something very difficult, considering the plan for the chip is one that can program you to want what the programmers want you to want, though i hesitate to say impossible.

[seer74]

and yes, our earthly problems being a muck of low-frequency energy, the higher frequency is indeed the answer.

[swiftlouie143]

and yes, our earthly problems being a muck of low-frequency energy, the higher frequency is indeed the answer.

Thanks seer, this Ascension stuff sounds great! Guess we really don't have anything to worry about now (accept low-frequency) I mean who wouldn't want to ascend?

So wait.. were will we go? Will there be food there or will we even need to eat? Can my dog come?

[seer74]

Thanks seer, this Ascension stuff sounds great! Guess we really don't have anything to worry about now (accept low-frequency) I mean who wouldn't want to ascend?

So wait.. were will we go? Will there be food there or will we even need to eat? Can my dog come?

wow, your really dense, dude. dense as in low-frequency. and don't think I don't know your mocking me, and its not working :D no, one won't need to eat, and you will be everywhere, and nowhere, and unlike yourself, your dog is already there :D and you never did have anything to worry (fear) about. this place your so hung up on is temporary, unless of course you INSIST on being a jackass and reincarnating.:D

[swiftlouie143]

wow, your really dense, dude. dense as in low-frequency. and don't think I don't know your mocking me, and its not working :D no, one won't need to eat, and you will be everywhere, and nowhere, and unlike yourself, your dog is already there :D and you never did have anything to worry (fear) about. this place your so hung up on is temporary, unless of course you INSIST on being a jackass and reincarnating.:D

LMAO, im sorry this stuff is funny tho.

I love you seer :D

and if I ever do Ascend.. ill come give you a hug. :p

[seer74]

LMAO, im sorry this stuff is funny tho.

I love you seer :D

and if I ever do Ascend.. ill come give you a hug. :p

with your outlook you're more likely to keep comeing back to this game we call earth. I take it you believe the physical universe is all there is?

[swiftlouie143]

with your outlook you're more likely to keep comeing back to this game we call earth. I take it you believe the physical universe is all there is?

No, I beleive there are parallel universes. As for as Ascension go, that sounds to much like the new age versoin of the Christian "rapture" to me. I believe in DNA activate and that beings can travel through dimensions. But since ascension in based on belief and has no factual bases. I'm going to focus my engery on learning how to grown food, hunt and survive the coming earth changes. I am spirtual person but its hard to be spirtual on an empty stomach so at the very least balance your beliefs with reality. And if you do dematerialize and float away at least you'll do so on a full stomach :p

[seer74]

No, I beleive there are parallel universes. As for as Ascension go, that sounds to much like the new age versoin of the Christian "rapture" to me. I believe in DNA activate and that beings can travel through dimensions. But since ascension in based on belief and has no factual bases. I'm going to focus my engery on learning how to grown food, hunt and survive the coming earth changes. I am spirtual person but its hard to be spirtual on an empty stomach so at the very least balance your beliefs with reality. And if you do dematerialize and float away at least you'll do so on a full stomach :p

hey, fair enough :D but even within this plane of existance I still think that one should go for the highest frequency one can, even in regard to the lizards....so how about that david icke?

[swiftlouie143]

hey, fair enough :D but even within this plane of existance I still think that one should go for the highest frequency one can, even in regard to the lizards....so how about that david icke?

hey, im all for a peacefull plane of existance. But I want peace and freedom. If we dont have 100% of both we wont be able to change our physical reality, our freedom must come first.

I dont put my trust in reptiles because they have yet to earn my trust and have done everything earn my distrust. Like I said before I put my trust in myself .. I don't even put my full trust in my creature yet. So im not going to put my full trust in my oppressors.

[seer74]

hey, im all for a peacefull plane of existance. But I want peace and freedom. If we dont have 100% of both we wont be able to change our physical reality, our freedom must come first.

I dont put my trust in reptiles because they have yet to earn my trust and have done everything earn my distrust. Like I said before I put my trust in myself .. I don't even put my full trust in my creature yet. So im not going to put my full trust in my oppressors.

I didn't say trust!!! whoah, most of them are not to be trusted, the ones that are are staying out of it for now!!! I'm right with you on freedom, I say you can't have peace without freedom, OR freedom without peace!!! makeing peace with reptiles at this stage is about not holding onto bad energy, not trying to go up to em and give em a hug!!! I don't think Icke BTW is any more reptilian than any other human (though we are all PART reptilian) and I think that if they could do it without makeing a martyr of him, Icke would be as good as dead.

[swiftlouie143]

I didn't say trust!!! whoah, most of them are not to be trusted

lol, to anwer your question more directly, I wouldnt put my trust in David Icke, Alex Jones or any of the reptilian controled alt-media. I know there not telling the whole truth and believe they have alternate agendas. I just take there information, decifer it from fact or fiction and move on to the next source of information.

[seer74]

lol, to anwer your question more directly, I wouldnt put my trust in David Icke, Alex Jones or any of the reptilian controled alt-media. I know there not telling the whole truth and believe they have alternate agendas. I just take there information, decifer it from fact or fiction and move on to the next source of information.

do you think that ALL the alt-media are reptilian controlled? I think that about a lot of them, even when they are telling it right, but I do feel Icke to be one of the exceptions. And here's my main reason why, Icke tells you one thing that I am sure the elite don't want you to recognize, the spiritual need to not let ourselves be bogged down in low-frequency (reptilian) energy. Most of them seem to spread fear and anger! yes, I know the new age thing is all preachy about love too, but THEY would have you ignore the NWO manipulation! to me Icke is very exceptional in his BALANCEING seeing what's going on with reaching for higher energies. that is something they DO NOT want, and its not that I agree with 100% of his info, but then he tells us not to just beleieve everything he says, he admits to his own fallibility, and everything. one of the biggest weapons the lizards use against us dogma.

[swiftlouie143]

do you think that ALL the alt-media are reptilian controlled?

No just most of the ones the majority of people are following at the moment. Alex Jones, Ron Paul (and that whole GCN crew) David Icke, Michael Tsarion, Jordan Maxell, Art Bell etc. There are underground sources but there info is harder to come by (or dead) and since there kept quite, they normaly don't have such large following.

I will again state that I agree with 90% of what Icke is saying.

I just listen to there information, if your working for the Devil you normaly have some pretty good insight on what he's up too ;)

Don't make the mistake of putting emtional stock (energy in which they can feed from) into any of these individuals.

There not putting any emtional stock in you..

[seer74]

care to expound on what the other 10% you don't agree with is? and on how it might serve the reptilian agenda?

the things I posted already about him make me inclined to think that if Icke is own of "theirs" then they are shooting themselves in the foot!

[swiftlouie143]

care to expound on what the other 10% you don't agree with is? and on how it might serve the reptilian agenda?

the things I posted already about him make me inclined to think that if Icke is own of "theirs" then they are shooting themselves in the foot!

I posted this before.. hopefully this can give you a few leads.. but if you want the truth you'll have to search for it yourself.
__________________________________________________ _______________



As for my OPINION on David Icke:

I'll fill you in on the serveral peices of evidence I'm bases my opinion off of..

Number 1.) He acts as if the bible is only a story as if he's not able to connect the dots and decifer the Roman lies from the truth.

Number 2.) He never makes the connection between reptilains and the devil of the bible. And he never talks about the true Isrelites of the bible and the false ones (zionists) who work for satan (who is reptilain)


Number 3.) He's a reptilain himself and from the votes... over

a quarter of the people here agree with me (and his is just coming from his own forums)

But dont take my word for it see for yourself:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERsLy8Dks6w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1WZJerlkLA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3SnQlfcEGo



Number 4.) Like Alex Jones (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlGR4xP7qmY) and the other reptilain controled alt-media David Icke hasn't been silenced, killed or put in jail. No one finds it strange that many others have been talking about reptilains or greys such as Alex Collier (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvw97yJrO0Q) (who was shut up by the military) or Bill Cooper (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWbZF9Bpeqk) (who was murdered) or Dr.Malachi Z.York (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vWug8iNuF8)(who was imprisoned) But Dave Icke hits the scene, regurgitates old information and becomes a house hold name nearly over night?

Number 5.) Like his reptilain friend Alex Jones, David Icke also has put photos on this website that contain subliminal messages (sex sex sex) written all over his head which can be seen in this video:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UoG2m4ONJHg

Number 6.) He's got you people now thinking there are "good" reptilians because he's one.. well you show me 1 reptilain thats ever told the whole truth including David Icke and ill recaint my stance untill then you keep being fooled by snakes. I'll place my trust else where...

[seer74]

well, you make some very well-thought out points. I do disagree with your conclusion though, and here is why. (i'm not "fooled" by him, there are things he and I differ on, I think for myself)

1) the parts of the bible that are literally true are very few. considering that most of it is allegory or else completley made up the conclusion that none of it is literal truth is an easy MISTAKE to make and not a deliberate deception.

2) yes he does so make the connection between the serpent of the bible and reptilians. and IF your african people are the real Israel of the bible not realizeing that is an easy mistake to make, and many the honest and sincere truth seeker has not seen it, includeing myself (and not just because I think Icke is infallible, i disagree with him some things!) yes, an honest mistake at worst, and quite easily CORRECT.

3) there is no proof that Icke is a reptilian, other than being human makes him PART reptilian like all of us. AND yes there ARE good reptilians. even in the less evolved, lower reptiles of the animal kingdom there are species of reptile that are completley harmless and docile. If there are more intelligent predator reptile species, then there are more intelligent reptiles of a harmless and gentle nature, even GOD'S Angels in the BIBLE are SERPENTS (seraphim).
And if that's not enough for you, those videos are not proof Icke is a reptile. I will get into it with all the people who wave vids around to prove reptiles even exist at all. the only thing that has me convinced there even ARE ANY such thing is my own eyes - I've seen them, Have you? If not then you are less qualified than me to judge wether or not any are good, or wether or not they even EXIST.

4) killing David Icke would be the single STUPIDEST thing that they could ever do, and they know it. The last thing they want to do is prove that what he says is true or create any more martyrs.

5)david icke didn't take those pictures, man, the subliminals are not from him.

6) see above #3; AND you will never find anyone AT ALL, not ONE single solitary soul who has ever told the whole truth, that is an impossible task, you could talk non stop for a thousand years and still leave more to tell.

see, these, points you make don't hold any water. what does hold water is that if he was one of theirs it would be awfully stupid of them (for reasons i've posted before) second only in stupidity to killing him. Personally, I'm inclined to think you have a chip on your shoulder against him for not seeing Israel the way you do, and because you do not want to let go of your low-frequency response to the reptilian's oppression.

[seer74]

Don't make the mistake of putting emtional stock (energy in which they can feed from) into any of these individuals.

..

the only energy I feed to Icke is the exact oppositte of the kind that our oppressors feed off of.

[swiftlouie143]

the only energy I feed to Icke is the exact oppositte of the kind that our oppressors feed off of.

Icke is a Reptilian and Reptilians are our oppressors. When you love them, the're not feeding off your love, there feeding off your ignorance.

[guyblokeman]

very well put, guy

Thanks:)

and you....


Yes, I believe in "ascension". But this does not make me a "new ager" see "ascension" as the new age people view it and what I am working towards (and mind you, it was you who called it ascension, not me) are two different things. I am not a "new ager" at all, and those who do fit the term will never ascend by looking at it the way they do. New agers have this delusional idea that after 2012 everything ON EARTH is going to be all cotton-candy and rainbows. They beleive the whole world will "ascend" together. I do not believe anything of the sort. I believe this world is only going to continue to fall further and further into the NWO New Age trap, and that "ascension" is an individual act of free will that one must undertake alone in order to get OFF this prison dimension


My sentiments exactly.

Altough I have no particular rush to leave this plane of existence.

More of a Bodhisattva ;)

[guyblokeman]

the're not feeding off your love, there feeding off your ignorance.

Wow, so fundamenatlly your stating that every spiritual belief system is ignorant?

One of the main tenants of every spiritual path is undivided love, for the divided one.

You hate God:(

P.s those videos of proof that Icke is a reptillian are piss poor, especially the 1st, I gave you more credit than posting such garbage as evidence:(

[swiftlouie143]

One of the main tenants of every spiritual path is undivided love, for the divided one.

You hate God:(

Speak for your own "spiritual path", my spiritual path promotes balance. Do you think you are more "spiritual" than the Native peoples of American? or the Monks of Tibetian? Because they formed armys to kill (not unconditionally love) the people who were trying to invade and impose on there way of life.

Do you new agers ever stop thinking in terms of spiritually and think in terms of reality.

Your not balanced, your thinking is rigid and one sided (even if that side is unconditional love) and because your mind is not flexible you won't make it in a world were the enemy is not a attacking you with love or hate, but with out emotions, by remote controll.

I "hate God"? maybe the one who's leading you..

[guyblokeman]

. Do you think you are more spiritual than the Native peoples of Americans? or the Buddhist Monks of Tibetian? Because they formed armys to kill the people who were trying to invade and impose on there way of life.

Why do you keep turning this into a spirituality dick sizing contest?

We`re fighting a different war than the above mentioned.

The oppressors are already here, and are going nowhere.

If you face the NWO with a gun, you`ll get shot, that I garuntee you.


.
Do you new agers ever stop thinking in terms of spiritually and think in terms of reality.

Its a shame you dont see the 2 intimately linked.



.
Your not balanced, your thinking is rigid and one sided and because your mind is not flexible you won't make it in a world were the enemy is not a attacking you with love or hate, with out emotions and with a remote controlled drone.

Haha, you lecturing me on what my mind is.

You have no idea.



.
I dont hate "God" tho I may hate your God..

Yes, Im aware of your hate/ignorance.

[anyeong]

aren't we all part reptilian though? maybe those cave man bones we found were just other human races we couldn't get along with

[swiftlouie143]

Its a shame you dont see the 2 intimately linked.

linked? of course, but not always the same. Your spiritually wont save you from whats coming, it didn't save the Native Americans it didn't save the Tibetians it didn't save my people and it wont save you. You want to unite? Trying doing it in arms. When we are free then you can go back to your chanting sessions.

Spiritually can shape your reality, but not when your a slave. You'll just be a Spiritual slave! and we are all slaves (to an oppressive system)

[guyblokeman]

. When we are free then you can go back to your chanting sessions.


You can be free right now.

Bill HIcks " Its a choice, right now, between love and hate"

Is any of this reptillian stuff actually affecting you right now? Have you been physically threatened by them? Have you even seen one?

There are many things you can do to not live under illuminati control, and untill the day comes when their at my door with a gun, I dont really need to even think about them, let alone fear them.

[seer74]

Icke is a Reptilian and Reptilians are our oppressors. When you love them, the're not feeding off your love, there feeding off your ignorance.

the reptilian elite are our oppressors. Icke MAY be a reptilian, or not, but reptilian or otherwise, not one of our opprssors, our oppressors want us to be ignorant, hateful, and afraid. the most important knowledge is LOVE, the awareness that we are ALL ONE SPIRIT. failure to LOVE = fear, hate, and ignorance. when you DON'T love them they are feeding off your ignorance and hate. Love is the only weapon against them. anything else is ignorance and fear.

[seer74]

yeah, Louie, have you ever been face to face with one? well, let me tell you, I HAVE, and I know what works against them and what doesn't. You?

[seer74]

I have not only confronted physical reptilians, but the non-physical demonic entities that in turn rule over them. Just over the past couple months I've been seeing the lizards more and more and more often. And I have been casting out demons for 10 years now. I am not lieing in my signature when I call myself a veteran of the psychic wars. I think I am pretty well qualified to tell you what feeds them and what drives them out.

[seer74]

Thanks:)

and you....




My sentiments exactly.

Altough I have no particular rush to leave this plane of existence.

More of a Bodhisattva ;)

good for you guy. keep up the good work :)

[swiftlouie143]

Is any of this reptillian stuff actually affecting you right now? Have you been physically threatened by them?

Yes they are affecting me, us and the planet right now..

physically threatened? I've been physically, spiritually and pyscologically attacked.
By there stystem.. there not going to go door to door guy...

Would we be arguing over this if that weren't the case?

[seer74]

linked? of course, but not always the same. Your spiritually wont save you from whats coming, it didn't save the Native Americans it didn't save the Tibetians it didn't save my people and it wont save you. You want to unite? Trying doing it in arms. When we are free then you can go back to your chanting sessions.

Spiritually can shape your reality, but not when your a slave. You'll just be a Spiritual slave! and we are all slaves (to an oppressive system)

no it didn't save these people you mention, nor did it save jesus lol that's because what happened to these people happened on THIS low-frequency plane of existance where low-frequency energy is the rule of the day and stands victorious (though a hollow victory indeed to rule - actually to be ruled BY - a low-frequency plane of existance) the only victory that can ever be had against this low-frequency energy is to be free of it. and the only way to be free of BAD ENERGY is with GOOD (higher frequency) ENERGY, AKA; LOVE.

[seer74]

Yes they are affecting me, us and the planet right now..

physically threatened? I've been physically, spiritual and pyscologically attacked.
Would we be arguing over this if that weren't the case?

and its quite obvious that you lost the battle :(

[swiftlouie143]

and its quite obvious that you lost the battle :(

LMAO, lemme ask you seer. Do you have a plan for marshall law? Or will you "ascend" by then?

[guyblokeman]

good for you guy. keep up the good work :)

Thanks, and you:)

Ive had my fair share of psychic battles too.



Yes they are affecting me, us and the planet right now..

Thier not affecting me, and Im sure mother earth can look after herself, she always does.



physically threatened? I've been physically, spiritual and pyscologically attacked...

Im sorry to hear this, and if its still continuing, I seriously advise you to take the advice already provided to you.

Please dont say you have already as you quite clearly havnt.

Love

[seer74]

LMAO, lemme ask you seer. Do you have a plan for marshall law? Or will "ascend" by then?

as a matter of fact I do. but you don't want to hear what it is. I will tell you this much though; physically speaking your plan and mine will both get the same outcome. spiritually speaking my results will be MUCH better than yours :rolleyes:

i sure hope to ascend by then... if I don't then it will be on that day that i finally do.

[swiftlouie143]

as a matter of fact I do. but you don't want to hear what it is..

No, I wana hear, please .. go on

[seer74]

No, I wana hear, please .. go on

well, I will certainly not bow to their "authority"! I will stand my ground. With love and forgiveness. I will probably defend myself in the physical sense; though this will honestly be quite FUTILE so there's a possibility that I won't waste my effort. LIKE YOU I will end up DEAD physically speaking but unlike youmy spirit will be newborn and I shall ascend to my eternal glory!!!

[seer74]

the only difference between you and I here, Louie, is a state of mind and spirit. a difference that makes ALL the difference.

[swiftlouie143]

well, I will certainly not bow to their "authority"! I will stand my ground. With love and forgiveness. I will probably defend myself in the physical sense; though this will honestly be quite FUTILE so there's a possibility that I won't waste my effort. LIKE YOU I will end up DEAD!


No there not going to kill you, they havent spent all these time brain washing you just to kill you. They will most likely implant a micro-chip in your body and make you work in some mining operation on mars.

My question too you is: if there going to kill you or make you a slave.... why not just pick up a gun and shoot back? Do you think its wrong or "unholy" to defend yourself?

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1497/fababypower2me9fa8f9vq2.jpg

[mariag]

Weither there are reptilian crossbreads or not and if Icke is one or not , he probably is acording to the DNA and the amount of crossbreads the Annunaki made back in the time of the old testament. The point is not weather they are evil or not , the point that even Icke is saying is that it is only a part of them that is the villain and not the whole.

And in my opinion it is the humans that are in controll of these reptiles that are the stupid ones not them , they are intelligent lifeforces that see people as subjects and projects in a game, or so it seams. The fact is that they have managed to manipulate a whole planet into a dangerous agenda. Simple as that.
Maybe they actually have a point and that a huge lesson is to come from all of this.,
That humans have something to learn about love, devotion , respect honor and LIVING life to the fullest, instead of using only 4 percent of the brains as most humans do.
I am not saying by this that they have a right to do what they are doing and that it is not of evil kind , I´m just saying that there are always two sides of a story and sometimes even more.
Love and Peace to all ... human and others;)

[mariag]

No there not going to kill you, they havent spent all these time brain washing you just to kill you. They will most likely implant a micro-chip in your body and make you work in some mining operation on mars.

My question too you is: if there going to kill you or make you a slave.... why not just pick up a gun and shoot back? Do you think its wrong or "unholy" to defend yourself?

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1497/fababypower2me9fa8f9vq2.jpg

It is WRONG to kill and evil always feeds on evil and opressions. If You choose to take up a gun and aim it at someone , human or animal or alien , what gives you the right to take away life?

[seer74]

No there not going to kill you, they havent spent all these time brain washing you just to kill you. They will most likely implant a micro-chip in your body and make you work in some mining operation on mars.

My question too you is: if there going to kill you or make you a slave.... why not just pick up a gun and shoot back? Do you think its wrong or "unholy" to defend yourself?

oh, yes, the will kill me, they aren't going to chip me alive!!! lol; BTW there brainwashing has failed on me LOL as for picking up a gun and shooting back, no I don't think its wrong or "unholy" to defend myself. BUT, its not going to keep me alive, just keep me from getting chipped!!! which is enough!!! of course if they do manage to get one of those chips into ME, their mainframe is likely to crash!!! LMAO And really if you think that shooting back is going to keep you ALIVE, your a fool!!! yeah, your going to outgun the Master of War. Get real, man.

Silly Little Man: "I can't control it!!!" (weapon misfires)
Evil: "Of course you can't control it you silly little man!I control them!"

[swiftlouie143]

It is WRONG to kill and evil always feeds on evil and opressions. If You choose to take up a gun and aim it at someone , human or animal or alien , what gives you the right to take away life?

what gives ME you the right to take away a life? Im the one trying to live peacefully!


It's NOT WRONG to defend your self, im not saying to go shoot up a school.

These reptilain controled guru's have you people thinking its OK to you to sit back and let them destroy us.

There is no freedom in death or slavery.. they had my people thinking that crap years ago.


Resistaints isn't fultile.

[mariag]

No there not going to kill you, they havent spent all these time brain washing you just to kill you. They will most likely implant a micro-chip in your body and make you work in some mining operation on mars.

My question too you is: if there going to kill you or make you a slave.... why not just pick up a gun and shoot back? Do you think its wrong or "unholy" to defend yourself?

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/1497/fababypower2me9fa8f9vq2.jpg

Oh and BTW I thought it was JESUS that said "those of you that are totaly free from sin , throw the first stone"

[mariag]

It's NOT WRONG to defend your self, im not saying to go shoot up a school.

These reptilain controled guru's have you people thinking its OK to you to sit back and let them destroy us.

There is no freedom in death or slavery.. they had my people thinking that crap years ago.


Resistaints isn't fultile.
I disagree totaly. It is NEVER right to take away life, no matter who the other person or being is

[swiftlouie143]

I disagree totaly. It is NEVER right to take away life, no matter who the other person or being is

Good luck then, your really a coward hideing behind a cloak of spiritually.

[mariag]

Good luck then, your really a coward hideing behind a cloak of spiritually.
on the contrairy , my spirituality is what keeps me alive and kicking. And in total control of who I am

[guyblokeman]

? Im the one trying to live peacefully!

Your not living peacefully though, and never will untill you.........

Ive said it enough.



?
There is no freedom in death or slavery.. they had my people thinking that crap years ago.

Actually there is freedom in death;)

And enough already with this "my people" talk.

We`re all one.

[guyblokeman]

Good luck then, your really a coward hideing behind a cloak of spiritually.


Violence is the last resort of the incompetant - Issac asimov

Theres nothing cowardly about learning to love all there is, it can be alot harder than shutting yourself away and fearing everything.

Grow up:rolleyes:

[paganus]

if you want to open fire on highly advanced extra-terrestrials thats your problem.im sure they're terriffied...:rolleyes:

[mariag]

Violence is the last resort of the incompetant - Issac asimov

Theres nothing cowardly about learning to love all there is, it can be alot harder than shutting yourself away and fearing everything.

Grow up:rolleyes:

:):)
swiftlouie143 still has a long way to go on narrow paths since he seams to have lost his spirituality somewhere on the road.

[paganus]

:):)
swiftlouie143 still has a long way to go on narrow paths since he seams to have lost his spirituality somewhere on the road.indeed!

[swiftlouie143]

:):)
swiftlouie143 still has a long way to go on narrow paths since he seams to have lost his spirituality somewhere on the road.

:rolleyes:

Maybe you can tell that to this man..

http://a734.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_8d225ff7e0e0bf25a3588e8a51670135.jpg

Im sure he could also use your guidance on his "spiritual path"

Fear manifests it's self in many forms, and for you new agers it's neglecting reality and responcablity.

[mariag]

:rolleyes:

Maybe you can tell that to this man..

http://a734.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_8d225ff7e0e0bf25a3588e8a51670135.jpg

Im sure he could also you your guidance on his "spiritual path"

Fear manifests it's self in many forms, and for you new agers it's neglecting reality and responcablity.
Well you see my dear brother louie! Dalai Lama was apart of the illuminati ;)NWO

[mariag]

:rolleyes:

Maybe you can tell that to this man..

http://a734.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_8d225ff7e0e0bf25a3588e8a51670135.jpg

Im sure he could also you your guidance on his "spiritual path"

Fear manifests it's self in many forms, and for you new agers it's neglecting reality and responcablity.

And the thing is that I don´t care what you think you will achieve with trying to oppose me , cause i know that you are .
I smell fear from you , fear that you might loose something. But you see , you will never loose if you let yourself open up to love and devotion on a higher spiritual and emotional basis.

[swiftlouie143]

Well you see my dear brother louie! Dalai Lama was apart of the illuminati ;)NWO

I woudn't doubt it, but since your a new ager I figured I quote some one you can relate too. ;)
Still doesn't negate the truth..

[mariag]

and another thing worth saying is that Dalai Lama said it is reasonable , but he never said that you should , there is a huge difference between whats reasonable and what you should and should not do

[mariag]

I woudn't doubt it, but since your a new ager I figured I quote some one you can relate too. ;)
Still doesn't negate the truth..
i am not a new ager , i am me just little me :):)

[paganus]

I woudn't doubt it, but since your a new ager I figured I quote some one you can relate too. ;)
Still doesn't negate the truth..define 'new ager'

[mariag]

oh yes ... please do define a New Ager;)

[swiftlouie143]

Sorry cant argue any longer, I gotta goto work now..:mad:

Which only proves my point that unless you have freedom first..

You will be peacefull but you won't have peace.

Think about.. no better yet.. metate on that ;)

[mariag]

Have fun at work louie andf meditate on the word New Age so you can explain to us unknowing people what it is. ;)Love and peace to all energyforms that there is

[guyblokeman]

:):)
swiftlouie143 still has a long way to go on narrow paths since he seams to have lost his spirituality somewhere on the road.

Yes unfortunately.

He also seems to hold a bizarre assumption that anyone that isnt ruled by hatred/anger/fear is New Age:confused:

[mariag]

Yes unfortunately.

He also seems to hold a bizarre assumption that anyone that isnt ruled by hatred/anger/fear is New Age:confused:
Maybe there is more to this guy then just a "swiftlouie''? It seams to me that he wants to start arguments and then leave all of a sudden when he finds out that he can´t proove or un proove the thing he is claiming.
Either he is an un muture person searching for what he thinks is truth for him , on a very low level of conciousness or he is a spy from the NWO ...;);)

[paganus]

Yes unfortunately.

He also seems to hold a bizarre assumption that anyone that isnt ruled by hatred/anger/fear is New Age:confused:is this the dawning of the age of Aquarius?

[mariag]

is this the dawning of the age of Aquarius?

So they say :D

[cloudgazer]

I have not only confronted physical reptilians, but the non-physical demonic entities that in turn rule over them. Just over the past couple months I've been seeing the lizards more and more and more often. And I have been casting out demons for 10 years now. I am not lieing in my signature when I call myself a veteran of the psychic wars. I think I am pretty well qualified to tell you what feeds them and what drives them out.

Wow, that's pretty sweet. I have fought with demons in my dreams. And to get rid of them I used my spirit to make them disappear. It was a weird kind of way of praying them away. A mixture of prayer and energy to make them go away. But I didn't think/feel about love or anythign because at the time I wasn't aware that this is a good thing to do.

I don't know what you do, but I'm highly interested if you don't mind sharing (maybe in another thread lol, or pm). Maybe you don't want for everyone to see? shrug

I read about the Breathing/blasting technique on these forums. Is that what you do? Do you use love like in your sig?

[seer74]

I read about the Breathing/blasting technique on these forums. Is that what you do? Do you use love like in your sig?

very simple. I tell a demonic spirit to go away and it must go because thanks to good ol' LOVE my spirit is stronger than theirs. They are indeed quite powerless in the face of love. That is why they use the reptilians as proxy rulers, because on their own they have no power over a human being - our spirit is love. When they first conquered mankind they must have used the reppys to inspire the necessary fear. I used to get scared a lot and they would have a field day with me. Over time I figured out that the power to drive them away was love, I then started consciously channeling love and the results have been fantastic! :D

[seer74]

I woudn't doubt it, but since your a new ager I figured I quote some one you can relate too. ;)
Still doesn't negate the truth..

Ah, labeling, the last resort of the ignorant! :rolleyes:

[swiftlouie143]

Have fun at work louie andf meditate on the word New Age so you can explain to us unknowing people what

it is. ;)Love and peace to all energyforms that there is

My definition of a New Ager: some one who negates the responsibility our of physical reality for an easiler but fictional concept such as ascension or rapture. Simlar too the "Uncle Tom" of black slavery who belived he'd "fly away" only to reincarnate in the same inslaved state, and that also fed into the Roman lie of loveling your enemies (masters) or turning the other cheek.

They don't promote and physical means of becoming free and belive that if we can learn to unconditionaly love we reptilain masters, they will have to leave! There daily life is centered around on a combination of feeling good "vibes" and denyal of facts and reality. And when there "good vibes" are at risk from pain facts or reality they call the people who are trying to help pull them out of there feel good, yet psychotic state "engery vampires"

New Agers are most commonly found in the U.S. Canada,U.K. Australia but are not the indiguness peoples of those countrys. New Agers are not found in 3rd world countrys were they would forced to face painful realitys.
New Agers sit around practicing yoga and learning to mediate while the rest of the world suffers. And when they can't block out the pain of reality they blame everything on "low vibes" instead of the Reptilain Luciferians who control and manipulate us.


They live in a contradicting, hypercryical life, where they will see dead and dieing all around them. Instead of offering food or aid (an action) they offer a prayer (a thought) this kind of backwards responce of totaly negating our physical plane is encouraged by they (mainly indo-aryan) guru's who have put websites in place to purposing misguid them into becoming submissive to the NWO agenda.


There lead (unknowningly but sometimes knowingly) by NWO reptilain controled guru's who don't identfy themselfs as being "new age" (Luciferians) who have lead them to belive that the problem is our human nature and not there reptilian manipulation.

In turn most New Agers have become extremly passive agressive. Defending there reptilain masters when ever other fellow humans speak out for freedom or revolution that doesn't involve "enegery work".

[paganus]

My definition of a New Ager: some one who negates the responsibility our of physical reality for an easiler but fictional concept such as ascension or rapture. Simlar too the "Uncle Tom" of black slavery who belived he'd "fly away" only to reincarnate in the same inslaved state, and that also fed into the Roman lie of loveling your enemies (masters) or turning the other cheek.

They don't promote and physical means of becoming free and belive that if we can learn to unconditionaly love we reptilain masters, they will have to leave! There daily life is centered around on a combination of feeling good "vibes" and denyal of facts and reality. And when there "good vibes" are at risk from pain facts or reality they call the people who are trying to help pull them out of there feel good, yet psychotic state "engery vampires"

New Agers are most commonly found in the U.S. Canada,U.K. Australia but are not the indiguness peoples of those countrys. New Agers are not found in 3rd world countrys were they would forced to face painful realitys.
New Agers sit around practicing yoga and learning to mediate while the rest of the world suffers. And when they can't block out the pain of reality they blame everything on "low vibes" instead of the Reptilain Luciferians who control and manipulate us.


They live in a contradicting, hypercryical life, where they will see dead and dieing all around them. Instead of offering food or aid (an action) they offer a prayer (a thought) this kind of backwards responce of totaly negating our physical plane is encouraged by they (mainly indo-aryan) guru's who have put websites in place to purposing misguid them into becoming submissive to the NWO agenda.


There lead (unknowningly but sometimes knowingly) by NWO reptilain controled guru's who don't identfy themselfs as being "new age" (Luciferians) who have lead them to belive that the problem is our human nature and not there reptilian manipulation.

In turn most New Agers have become extremly passive agressive. Defending there reptilain masters when ever other fellow humans speak out for freedom or revolution that doesn't involve "enegery work".tell that to DI! seems to be getting the job done doesnt he? as did Gahndi.

[mariag]

There are several kinds of "New Age" people.
Those who awaits the new Era of aquarious and those who are interested in other ways of thinking. The concept New Age is very big so it really depends on the individual to give a description .

[paganus]

as a Wiccan am i 'old age' or 'new age' or both...:D

[mariag]

as a Wiccan am i 'old age' or 'new age' or both...:D
I don´t know , what do you think? :) I am also wiccan btw blessed be :D

[paganus]

I don´t know , what do you think? :) I am also wiccan btw blessed be :D
BOTH! :D blessed be!

[mariag]

BOTH! :D blessed be!

Could be , New age Old age time is irrelevant , in universe time isn´t meassured in seconds neither hours , only eons :D

[seer74]

new age is a label. it is one of those labels that lump all kinds of different people together as if they were the same. it is primarily a christian smear word for anyone with more open-minded spiritual beliefs than their own. it is also louie's smear word for anyone who unlike him, can differentiate between faceing the realities of this world and being consumed by fear, anger and hate. the insinuation is that "because unlike me you are open-minded and loving you must be a pawn of the NWO." louie's false premise is that one must be hateful and bitter or else one is ignorant. this premise stems from ignorance of the power of love. it is used by the reptilian masters and the demons who rule through them to reinforce the negative state of mind through which they maintain their power over humanity.

[seer74]

there is a balance which one must find between knowing what is happening, even if it is negative and not letting your spirit be consumed by negativity. there are two opposite mistakes one can make in this regard;

either A) one might fail to keep a positive state of mind being consumed by negativity OR

B) one might fail to recognize the problems faceing their lives and the world we live in; preferring like louie describes as New Age to think that they can maintain the positive by ignoreing the negative.

louie seems to think that those who know they must maintain for the positive
state of mind are all doing B and so must be "New Age". this attitude for him seems to reinforce HIS mistake (see A)

[swiftlouie143]

tell that to DI! seems to be getting the job done doesnt he? as did Gahndi.


...hold on did u just compare David Icke to Gahndi lol?

p.s. I've heard (from creditable sources) that Gahndi (as well as MLK) were agents. I can't confirm or deny that, right now but im going to look into it and get back to you.

[paganus]

...hold on did u just compare David Icke to Gahndi lol?

p.s. I've heard (from creditable sources) that Gahndi (as well as MLK) were agents. I can't confirm or deny that, right now but im going to look into it and get back to you.i mention them both in the same sentence.is anyone you dont agree with an agent? you must be surrounded by the fuckers!!! :D

[mariag]

...hold on did u just compare David Icke to Gahndi lol?

p.s. I've heard (from creditable sources) that Gahndi (as well as MLK) were agents. I can't confirm or deny that, right now but im going to look into it and get back to you.
Well if you have heard it from "creditable" sources it shouldn´t be so hard to confirm it should it?

[swiftlouie143]

Well if you have heard it from "creditable" sources it shouldn´t be so hard to confirm it should it?

"I heard it".. meaning audio.. I like hard evidence. Meaning I could touch it or at least see it especially when discrediting about people whom I though have done great things for mankind.

Like I said when (and if) I find the info (im asking extremely educated people as we speak) ill let you know..

[mariag]

"I heard it".. meaning audio.. I like hard evidence. Meaning I could touch it or at least see it especially when discrediting about people whom I though have done great things for mankind.

Like I said when (and if) I find the info (im asking extremely educated people as we speak) ill let you know..
good can´t wait to hear , meanwhile i will read david´s new book :p:p

[seer74]

...hold on did u just compare David Icke to Gahndi lol?

p.s. I've heard (from creditable sources) that Gahndi (as well as MLK) were agents. I can't confirm or deny that, right now but im going to look into it and get back to you.

OF COURSE MLK was an agent - he promoted PEACEFUL resistance. LMAO

OH, Louie, Louie, oooooooh no;
I said me go-go now;
yah-yah-yah-yah-yah-I say-ah;
Louie, Louie...

[seer74]

And, that Ghandi, If it weren't for HIS peaceful resistance, the NWO elite would never have gotten those indegenous people of India out from under the rule of those pesky Imperialists, and then where would they be? :D yup nuther reptilian agent, I'm certain of it.

[2013]

And, that Ghandi, If it weren't for HIS peaceful resistance, the NWO elite would never have gotten those indegenous people of India out from under the rule of those pesky Imperialists, and then where would they be? :D yup nuther reptilian agent, I'm certain of it.

Ghandi ssstarted his peace campaign on september 11 th
1906 thats 9 11 nothing to worry about there then
http://www.nyc-dop.com/gandhi/

[seer74]

Ghandi ssstarted his peace campaign on september 11 th
1906 thats 9 11 nothing to worry about there then
http://www.nyc-dop.com/gandhi/

well, that's very interesting to note, and actually I wouldn't be surprised if Ghandi was an agent. its true that the NWO wars serve dual purpose, conquest, and also to trigger the call for peace (NWO false "peace")

But I was of course, SARCASTICALLY following a certain other poster's line of thinking that promoteing peace conclusively PROVES one is an agent. It certainly does not. I mean look at MLK, if that guy was an agent, then WHY oh, WHY then did they KILL him?

[2013]

i thought it was interesting the date not saying he was or wasnt either way. The dates themselves must contain particular energies so they pervert them by releasing negative events onto them as in twin towers :D Again its not so much that events are good or bad just how they are manipulated.promoting peace in order to diffuse potential future problems
might be part of their agenda but is fighting them by uprising any better? would the people who did that be able to stop and turn their swords back into ploughshears once they believed the problem people where removed , looking back thru history there doesnt see mto be many times where there was peace .What is to stop the one time freedom fighters from getting a taste for it and then wanting to impose their idea of freedom upon people .Just thoughts not opinions

[paganus]

well, that's very interesting to note, and actually I wouldn't be surprised if Ghandi was an agent. its true that the NWO wars serve dual purpose, conquest, and also to trigger the call for peace (NWO false "peace")

But I was of course, SARCASTICALLY following a certain other poster's line of thinking that promoteing peace conclusively PROVES one is an agent. It certainly does not. I mean look at MLK, if that guy was an agent, then WHY oh, WHY then did they KILL him?dont forget Gahndi was assassinated!

[seer74]

dont forget Gahndi was assassinated!

and again

[cloudgazer]

My boyfriend recently read a book about Gandhi and read through other books about him for his Indian history class. He definitely was not a saint like some make him out to be. But who is perfect on this plane of existance? I agree that peaceful resistance definitely doesn't seem NWO style to me.

[aznality]

I dont have enough information to decide, so I'm not voting.

[kingdavid]

im sick of people like you .david is good