Alcohol

[masonic3]

Alcohol, this messes up a lot of lives and I think if any one wanted to sort the world out, they would have to get rid of everything like drugs/ alcohol
to make the worlds mind straight..

Do You drink? think about it???????????????

[eternal_spirit]

Partly agree with m3 on this one lol. A famous man was it Churchill:confused: said... " keep them out of the librarys and keep them in the Pubs" something like that.

Alcohol is legal, to most people it's the societys norm. If you don't drink you become a social outcast unless you can find other none drinkers (rarer than rocking horse shit)

Alcohol can kill you if you drink enough in one session, crazy to think we're offered it from an early age. Drink to you're health they say FFS!

[mada88]

"Alcohol is legal, to most people it's the societys norm. If you don't drink you become a social outcast unless you can find other none drinkers (rarer than rocking horse shit)" - eternal_spirit

Couldn't agree more! I have never drank and I choose not to drink. So I get a lot of stick off people just because I don't spend all my money on alcohol to then go and piss it away lol. You always get the question "why don't you drink?" well heres a better question "why do you drink?" Most people I'm sure will drink because everybody else to fit in. Like good little sheep. I don't have an issue with people drinking its the fact that people get very defensive with you go against there dogma. I found it funny when the government (control of mind) extended the drinking hours and lowered the price. And that alcohol is a depressent! LMAO! so you go out on a night to make yourself happy and you drink an depressent? it doesn't make sense!
I know what an alcoholic can be like and its not a very nice experience. I believe alcohol keeps you in a low vibrational state and people don't drink alcohol, alcohol has them its like any addiction and most people won't admit there are an alcoholic.
But then again the drink is an illusion and the whole night of going out is an illusion. Though people believe its real, it would be fine if people knew it wasn't real.

[cmdr_sabbathius]

I'm an alcoholic. I drink to get drunk every weekend to escape it all. By this time on sundays I get quite loony & random, which is always interesting!

[klinker]

I don't drink because I can drink meaning I can handle my drink and lots of it. I've been on the wagon for around eight years now. I've witnessed at first hand the long term effects of alcohol not least what it has done to my parents so they provided another reason to not drink.

Alcohol is kept legal deliberately.

[masonic3]

Partly agree with m3 on this one lol. A famous man was it Churchill:confused: said... " keep them out of the librarys and keep them in the Pubs" something like that.

Alcohol is legal, to most people it's the societys norm. If you don't drink you become a social outcast unless you can find other none drinkers (rarer than rocking horse shit)

Alcohol can kill you if you drink enough in one session, crazy to think we're offered it from an early age. Drink to you're health they say FFS!

keep them out of the librarys and keep them in the Pubs

If he didn't say it he would of liked it....

[notaslave]

I too have seen the effects of alcohol in the various places I have lived. I do like a drink now and then but my preferred drug is caffeine in the form of coffee.

Everything in moderation. :)

[tru3]

Alcohol, this messes up a lot of lives and I think if any one wanted to sort the world out, they would have to get rid of everything like drugs/ alcohol
to make the worlds mind straight..

Do You drink? think about it???????????????

<sigh>

why do i volunteer to stick my hand into the meat grinder? oh well here goes...

first, m3, let me just say that i believe we can peacefully co-exist here. i don't understand WHY you're here, but that's ok, i'm learning to live with ambiguity lol. so, that being said, i put forth the following as a personal experience. i'm "testifying", to use the old-school word.

i am a recovering alcoholic. through Grace, i have been sober for almost 10 years. both sides of my family are populated with alcoholics, as far back as i remember. so, i feel my insight here might be pertinent to your assertion.

for me, alcohol, or even the urge to drink, is not the disease, it is a symptom of a very deep fracture in my psyche. as i attended meetings, day in day out for years, and shared my experience with other alcoholics, i kept hearing the same story, over: drinking served to prove to me how despicable i was, how utterly unworthy of love i felt myself to be.

as i learned to practise forgiveness, with myself, my family, and those around me, alcohol has resonated less and less for me. now, the very smell of it makes me queasy. so, i can't speak for everyone, but this and living the phrase "one day at a time" has worked. as of today.

i have to toddle on now, but i'll leave you with this provocative assertion:

drugs don't kill our kids, WE do!

[seamus]

Just to lighten up the thread a bit...



Alcohol is legal, to most people it's the societys norm. If you don't drink you become a social outcast unless you can find other none drinkers (rarer than rocking horse shit)


Uhhh. huh-huh. huh-huh.

http://www.weebl.jolt.co.uk/donkey.htm

watch it till the end.

How Rare!

But really... There is something beautiful to be said for Samuel Smith's Oatmeal Stout. Incidentally it would be a huge waste of money to get drunk on the stuff. One or at most two, is perfect. Each one is almost like drinking a loaf of bread.

Mmmmmmmm pie!

s

[intruder]

I do NOT touch alcohol....let alone drink it. I've seen it F--K up too many lives. Yes...a few drinks, the heightened joviality, has its place...but not in my life.

[seamus]

Well you see...

I'm blessed, because I have absolutely no inclination to over-drink. Every (and I mean every) time I have gotten ripped, I wake up in a pool of my own vomit, not knowing how I got there. So after about 6 of those episodes, I had had enough of that nonsense. I haven't touched drink for nearly 8-1/2 years, but I fully intend to have a bottle of that stout soon.

yum.

Well the nice warm glowy feeling afterwards is nice too.

s

Everyone else in my immediate family are alcoholics (currently sober), so I do indeed understand what y'all are talking about.

[eternal_spirit]

lmao good one seamus :D webls wobble but they don't fall down! webls where a toy and that was the cath phrase.

[seamus]

Love that weebl and bob. But their new ones are kinda... Meh.

Lest any worry ;) I don't live with the immediate family who are recovereD alcoholics, and I only mean to have one (okay maybe 2). I can't afford more than that. It's expen$ive.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and I weigh 110 kilos.

s

[eternal_spirit]

Yes stout or guinness for me too.....Not had one since new year or was it:p ( 3 or 4 maybe)

I used to think it was the drink that made me feel good on a night out. Then I started to drink alone at home at times or even at a pub, which is no fun!

Got me thinking that it was the company of my drinkng buddies, that made me feel good and not the drink!

[lottie]

I see where you are all coming from and i agree- alcohol doesnt do us many favours- although i do believe in moderation it can be very pleasant- last night i went to a friends birthday and had 2 x vodkas with coke- i really enjoyed those two drinks and it did me no harm (imo). My point being i suppose is that i think with all the other manipulations we have suffered and conditioning and the way our world has been designed- we turn to alcohol and drugs to 'escape' the shit all around us- i asked my partner why he feels he must become completely intoxicated every thurs, fri, sat night and he said 'because im doing shitty job, for crap money, i work 40hrs a week and at the end of it all - i enjoy leaving it all behind and escaping/forgetting it all'!! he has a point- he is aware of the 'conspiracies' etc too- (not as much as me but still..) he feels we are trapped into working long hours for little money in order to have things we need and then its designed to make you go home and sit in front of the hypnobox and/or spend it all on alcohol to escape/subdue the subconscious realisation of the slaves we already are!!

If the world was a nicer place - maybe we wouldn't feel the need for escapism!??

[eternal_spirit]

yes lottie i agree some need drink as an escape, it only really becomes a big problem when you drink everday. You're husband works all week so I guess he's earned the right to escape lol.

Personally I can live without drink, don't crave it anymore as I used to drink too much. Once in a while I can have a few but know when to stop. Dependance on alcohol is a wicked damaging path to travel, alcoholics tend not to listen to others advice saying they need to cut down or stop drinking.

You have to reach an all time low....time and time again, then self realistaion you have a problem sets in. they have to decide themselves to stop or cut down on the old grog.

[lottie]

yes thats what he says- he's earned the right to escape- but its sad he has to! im not a big drinker- prob once a month or so- i'll drink but the older i get the more pointless i find it- its fine to have a few but i can't be doing with getting smashed anymore, it does me no favours- my tongue has a life of its own and i often regret things ive said etc etc- not to mention the crappy depressive state it puts me in for a few days after!! i much prefer a smoke!! lol- escapism again as some would say but thats my right too- i just like to relax and unwind- i work hard too! but at least i dont become a complete tosser when ive hada smoke- just relaxed and into my own world!! (i like it there its great- everyone's nice!!lol) prehaps this will change too as i grow older- as i change- i may feel this is not necssary too??!! we'll see......!!:D

[seamus]

yes thats what he says- he's earned the right to escape- but its sad he has to!

Wait a minute waitaminute waitaminute waitaminute. Isn't that what we're all talking about here? Isn't that why you read David Icke? Sure, the escape we are seeking is a more permanent and empowering one, but it is an escape all the same... from the "dreamworld we believe to be real". I think you're on to something! Your partner needs to be encouraged to seek that more permanent, more empowering escape! The walk up the Truman Show staircase, as one so aptly put it.

i much prefer a smoke!! lol- escapism again as some would say but thats my right too- i just like to relax and unwind- i work hard too! but at least i dont become a complete tosser when ive hada smoke- just relaxed and into my own world!! (i like it there its great- everyone's nice!!lol) Well, nothing wrong with that as long as you don't get that confused with your life and goals. Sheesh, escape has gotten such a bad rap from the 12-steppers. Y'all need to read Tolkien's essay on the function of fantasy. I had it in a small collection of his stories years ago, but can't find it online just yet. Perhaps I'll post a quote if I can find it. What he says is really germane to the issue.

prehaps this will change too as i grow older- as i change- i may feel this is not necssary too??!! we'll see......!!:DAs long as the world we live in is so insane, I can foresee a need to escape it temporarily from time to time.

Peace, Love

s

Edit: Here is a link to that essay "On Fairy-Stories" http://brainstorm-services.com/wcu-2004/fairystories-tolkien.pdf

And here is a relevant quote, though not by far the only one:
I have claimed that Escape is one of the main functions of fairy-stories, and since I do not
disapprove of them, it is plain that I do not accept the tone of scorn or pity with which
“Escape” is now so often used: a tone for which the uses of the word outside literary criticism
give no warrant at all. In what the misusers are fond of calling Real Life, Escape is evidently
as a rule very practical, and may even be heroic. In real life it is difficult to blame it, unless it
fails; in criticism it would seem to be the worse the better it succeeds. Evidently we are faced
by a misuse of words, and also by a confusion of thought. Why should a man be scorned if,
finding himself in prison, he tries to get out and go home? Or if, when he cannot do so, he
thinks and talks about other topics than jailers and prison-walls? The world outside has not
become less real because the prisoner cannot see it. In using escape in this way the critics
have chosen the wrong word, and, what is more, they are confusing, not always by sincere
error, the Escape of the Prisoner with the Flight of the Deserter. Just so a Party-spokesman
might have labelled departure from the misery of the Führer's or any other Reich and even
criticism of it as treachery. In the same way these critics, to make confusion worse, and so to
bring into contempt their opponents, stick their label of scorn not only on to Desertion, but
on to real Escape, and what are often its companions, Disgust, Anger, Condemnation, and
Revolt. Not only do they confound the escape of the prisoner with the flight of the
deserter; but they would seem to prefer the acquiescence of the “quisling” to the resistance
of the patriot. To such thinking you have only to say “the land you loved is doomed” to
excuse any treachery, indeed to glorify it.

[tru3]

Well, nothing wrong with that as long as you don't get that confused with your life and goals. Sheesh, escape has gotten such a bad rap from the 12-steppers. Y'all need to read Tolkien's essay on the function of fantasy. I had it in a small collection of his stories years ago, but can't find it online just yet. Perhaps I'll post a quote if I can find it. What he says is really germane to the issue.

hey seamus.

i agree that it is heavy. i chose to incarnate into a genetic line with lots of heaviness (that's how i see it, anyway). my blood chemistry just can't tolerate alcohol. I have been known to "puff the magic dragon", fokker! :D it simply doesn't effect me the same way. i'm not going to toke until i pass out, but with alcohol, i did.

my issue with aa, in the end, was the phrase "i am". i am is the most powerful vibration that can come out of our mouths, i feel. i put my affliction in this light: i wear glasses, it's a physical defect, but not who i am. i wear my glasses when i drive my car. similarly, i don't drink, because it's only a matter of time before i wrap my car around a tree. it's a physical defect, but not who i am.

it's quite a shame, really that oprah trashed the guy who wrote "a million pieces". he made an error in judgement, but his message was quite powerful, imo. oh well. people will tend to throw out the baby with the bath water.

if anyone is out there struggling with alcohol or addiction, my favorite book i've ever read is "cool water", by william alexander.

i will say that aa was a valuable experience for me. there are people in such psychic anguish from addiction, that just being there to witness it and share my own story was a healing experience for me.

so, i'm not trying to down anyone. i learned from my own experience to trust that there's someone on this forum who's waiting to read these words, maybe for the first time in their life. so i write. :)

[seamus]

Yes, tru3.

I hope I am not coming across as non-compassionate towards folks with addictive tendencies. Heck, I have some too. I am lucky to not be a blubbering drunk. My life was full of molestation, mental, verbal and physical abuse! I just wish people would not demonize ANY substance, but own and manage their weaknesses. Blame is one of the most addictive drugs there is, and the worst thing about it is it's free, and available everywhere. Like I said earlier, I was scared off of drinking because I blacked out. A blackout drunk is another person, as I am sure you know.

What you said about "I am" is great. That's how I got here today. I have always told myself "I am honest and kind" and now, through persistent honesty, I find myself in a place where I have a choice to make. It's a hard circumstance I have to choose to go into, but the choice itself is not hard. I love being able to look in the mirror and say "I like that person. He is honest and kind."

What the hell am I saying? I don't know. I'm just rambling. Maybe I am being defensive? I dunno. I just want us all to be friends. That's really what I want.

Friends?

s

[tru3]

What the hell am I saying? I don't know. I'm just rambling. Maybe I am being defensive? I dunno. I just want us all to be friends. That's really what I want.

's all good, my man :) i certainly don't feel like i'm a victim. i posted in another thread that the gift for addicts who are truly walking the path of recovery the best they can is that we really GET the phrase "a day at a time". we're living proof of the power of that philosophy!

when people at parties ask me if i need a drink, i respond, "i'm not drinking today." they just automatically assume i'm the designated driver, they don't feel awkward, and the party goes on! :cool:

[auron]

One of the reasons why i stopped drinking booze was because trying to achieve O.B.E's was physically impossible! Also hardcore drinking (which i used to do), seems to make you more angry and down within yourself:mad:

I speculate that this is the main reason that the establishment continually promote this poison to us all. Keeping us feeling down all the time. When you quit the drink, after a few weeks you start to feel amazing, and stop getting down all the time :)

[pollock]

I used to party hard and get drunk a lot but then my life turned upside down (sorted out a lot of problems with myself) and I feel I reached an other level of understanding and awakening, and now I can't drink much at all, its like something stops me.
Theres been times when I forgot i started a beer and I see the bottle the next day with only a sip drunk out of it and I can't remember why I forgot, its weird but also a blessing. (I dont normaly have bad memory like that with other things:) )
Theres no other drug that has had me do things I don't understand why I did them, even the hardest lsd trip has not had me change personallity the way alcohol has, made me whacky yes, but in my own way!

But I still like half a glas of wine with a good meal, although it tends to make me tired!
F

[dragonfly]

no, i don´t drink either. enjoy the more simple things in life.

peaceful thoughts, from Dragonfly :)

[purpledream]

I used to drink too much when I was a student. I feel daft about that now, it really was to escape. I am lucky that I never got addicted.

I very rarely drink now, but would hate to think I never could again. I do enjoy wine with a nice meal and booze in the odd chocolate now and then, I enjoy them because of the taste. I don't get drunk anymore.

If you binge drink it is bad for you. If you drink to get drunk it is bad for you.

[mada88]

Its not that drinkings bad its why do people feel the need to go out and drink as much alcohol as fast as possible? If it is to belong and be one of the crowd well thats just conforming to a norm. If its to escape then what are you escaping from? Its better to face it than fight it and hope it away. The thing is telling you something that needs to change. Its like anything negative they are telling us something about ourselfs and don't blame them for what they do when you allow it to happen.

Maybe we should stop looking at the mirror mirror on the wall.

[ennui]

It's very refreshing to read this thread, as sometimes I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't want to get snot flyingly drunk every Saturday. I tried all that when I was 13 and it got old really quickly.

I sometimes think that the people round here (where I live, not on this forum) are living in some kind of drug induced dreamworld incapable of coherent thought. If I try and talk to people I know about something I find interesting, such as theology or the latest government cover-up they look at me blankly, and I sigh and change the subject to something more mundane that they can cope with. It really is very tiresome.

Can't they see that what they're doing is pointless? Maybe that's the point. They can see that, so have to drink so they don't have to think about it.

[queenreptile]

"Alcohol is legal, to most people it's the societys norm. If you don't drink you become a social outcast unless you can find other none drinkers (rarer than rocking horse shit)" - eternal_spirit

Couldn't agree more! I have never drank and I choose not to drink. So I get a lot of stick off people just because I don't spend all my money on alcohol to then go and piss it away lol. You always get the question "why don't you drink?" well heres a better question "why do you drink?" Most people I'm sure will drink because everybody else to fit in. Like good little sheep. I don't have an issue with people drinking its the fact that people get very defensive with you go against there dogma. I found it funny when the government (control of mind) extended the drinking hours and lowered the price. And that alcohol is a depressent! LMAO! so you go out on a night to make yourself happy and you drink an depressent? it doesn't make sense!
I know what an alcoholic can be like and its not a very nice experience. I believe alcohol keeps you in a low vibrational state and people don't drink alcohol, alcohol has them its like any addiction and most people won't admit there are an alcoholic.
But then again the drink is an illusion and the whole night of going out is an illusion. Though people believe its real, it would be fine if people knew it wasn't real.

I agree entirely.I used to drink at parties and social functions which are compulsory in my profession. I decided to stop as i hate the taste, not to mention the effect. My contemporaries have all turned against me for my lifestyle choices. I am staying with my decission.
It is good to here from older and wiser people who "walk the walk".

[hagbard_celine]

I agree entirely.I used to drink at parties and social functions which are compulsory in my profession. I decided to stop as i hate the taste, not to mention the effect. My contemporaries have all turned against me for my lifestyle choices. I am staying with my decission.


Well done! It takes a Samurai's courage to do that. The herding instinct is the greatest pressure any of us are put under. The urge to conform is a hard one to break. David Icke describes it perfectly in his analogy of the sheep and sheepdog.

[mada88]

It's very refreshing to read this thread, as sometimes I feel like I'm the only person on the planet who doesn't want to get snot flyingly drunk every Saturday. I tried all that when I was 13 and it got old really quickly.

I sometimes think that the people round here (where I live, not on this forum) are living in some kind of drug induced dreamworld incapable of coherent thought. If I try and talk to people I know about something I find interesting, such as theology or the latest government cover-up they look at me blankly, and I sigh and change the subject to something more mundane that they can cope with. It really is very tiresome.

Can't they see that what they're doing is pointless? Maybe that's the point. They can see that, so have to drink so they don't have to think about it.

Here drink this shut up lol It's funny when you go against the flow and you are made to suffer for your choice. Oh by the way don't drink bottles from a bar/pub they keep em in the cellar, and rats piss all over!

[mada88]

Yes stout or guinness for me too.....Not had one since new year or was it:p ( 3 or 4 maybe)

I used to think it was the drink that made me feel good on a night out. Then I started to drink alone at home at times or even at a pub, which is no fun!

Got me thinking that it was the company of my drinkng buddies, that made me feel good and not the drink!

Its all about keeping warm. Noone likes the cold. Rats huddle together in a cage and so do humans its all about huddleing together to keep warm. So maybe people go out to keep warm and in the herd. Stay with the herd/pack or break one of the many chains?

Did you know that dreaming of something is no different to doing the same thing in waking life?

[mada88]

Have you seen a recent carling ad? It says right at the end "BELONG" LMAO! so by drinking there product you belong lol I never knew that drinking beer is like eating bread, maybe thats why it smells nice.

Nothing is kept from us.

[phoenix1]

Me as some will know.. i've been an alcoholic..passed the second test, and it was a tough and long test.
Understand the entity, because it IS one...I Graduated his test... and passed it.

Funnuy, I ve been on about doing a "substance addiction thread" and would be more than happy to tell you all what it is REALLY LIKE...Believe me .. it aint good at all.

Those whose problem it is not.... have others... Me well in this life it was a tester for me. In the faint glimpse of light... I grabbed my only chance of continuing in this flesh.

Yeah I thank the ALL for giving me the inside tools to deal with the "initiation" it was.

And every day.. I donr forget the horrors of it.

I can take a drnk If I choose... as I have passed its test.... but I choose not to at this time.. I prefer the clear and thinking mind.

Ive done all the drugs going bar heroin... so been there too, not addicted to anything drugwise.. I'm glad I had enough sense to avoid that.

Yeah ..I have no propblem admiting it at all. and If anyone wants me to open a thread called The Substance Addiction Thread... so ou can open up on it... if you think you wanna share an addiction in public. Well I will... there are few private areas in my life anymore. Plus...by opening that thread ..It would maybe help others to spot the signs ...before it becomes master of you.

Better by far ..to have addiction in quarantine... as a lesson you have recognised and learned from/

Theres my take for what its worth. One PM is all it will take for me to kick off this thread OK

All the Love

..Enjoy..now your limits... be healthy.. and be safe.. Some will think they are the master... like I did ... OHH BOY!!! WAS I WRONG!!

Yep No sweat.. I'll share the deal and what you can loose in life... (thats pretty much everything BTW) so be soo soo careful pepes.. take a tip...

Be the master of the drug propper.. and not a slave to it.

Phoenix

[phoenix1]

Partly agree with m3 on this one lol. A famous man was it Churchill:confused: said... " keep them out of the librarys and keep them in the Pubs" something like that.

Alcohol is legal, to most people it's the societys norm. If you don't drink you become a social outcast unless you can find other none drinkers (rarer than rocking horse shit)

Alcohol can kill you if you drink enough in one session, crazy to think we're offered it from an early age. Drink to you're health they say FFS!

Yep I couldn't agree more in one way... yeah i see the social outcast part.. BUT when you are ON FIRE and thay are gibbering wreks.... who is smarter then .. as they fix the world with cheap talk.. well it aint even cheap talk.

Aclcohol can also kill you if t=you have a problem.. then completly stop... if anyone has this problem detox through the doctor .. aor you run the risk of aclholic siezure.. I know... it happened to me.. I hallucinated for a week tied down to a bed by guard in a secure room....dont go there.. bad shit i can tell you.

Nothing worse than a Phoenix ties down physically.

Please take care people with substances. Especially you young ones who think you have it all undercontroll OK...LOL Lecture over lol.

Phoenix

[xdnax]

my dad was an alcoholic. i drink, but rarely. i enjoy it when i do, and i never get too drunk, just "nice"

to me, drugs/alcohol aren't necessarily bad, it's the misuse of them that's bad.

oh, and here's one of my lyrics to cover this:

"what's with all the rules n legislation?/
can u tell me why "freedom" needs regulation?/
how can i have freedom if you're restricting me?/
but u gotta love consistency, cos it's all bullshit to me!/"

(lyrics from "love the world" which can be found on my myspace, link below)
cheap plug, but what the heck! :D

peace

[tru3]

my dad was an alcoholic. i drink, but rarely. i enjoy it when i do, and i never get too drunk, just "nice"

to me, drugs/alcohol aren't necessarily bad, it's the misuse of them that's bad.

oh, and here's one of my lyrics to cover this:

"what's with all the rules n legislation?/
can u tell me why "freedom" needs regulation?/
how can i have freedom if you're restricting me?/
but u gotta love consistency, cos it's all bullshit to me!/"

(lyrics from "love the world" which can be found on my myspace, link below)
cheap plug, but what the heck! :D

peace

more laws breed more outlaws. ;)

[xdnax]

more laws breed more outlaws. ;)

yep!!!
situations are never "black or white" / "good or bad", so to say "well, this is how you should act according to the rules" is bullshit.....and makes you wanna rebel even more!!!! lol
if people are gonna be "good" then wont they be so much better if they do that through CHOICE?? that's the only way that's its gunna be true.


btw, this is my world. who the hell said i had to live my life paying taxes, having to work, and abiding by laws??? that REALLY ANNOYS ME!!!

(another lyric)

this world makes NO SENSE!!!/
when for a lack of man-made money, man is made HOMELESS!!!/

[tru3]

Have you seen a recent carling ad? It says right at the end "BELONG" LMAO! so by drinking there product you belong lol I never knew that drinking beer is like eating bread, maybe thats why it smells nice.

Nothing is kept from us.

http://www.poster.net/anonymous/anonymous-beer-helping-ugly-people-have-sex-4900448.jpg

[eternal_spirit]

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[phoenix1]

http://www.poster.net/anonymous/anonymous-beer-helping-ugly-people-have-sex-4900448.jpg

Helping people have sex!! Brilliant Tru 3 ..Laughing my head off ,,lol

(Pms will be allong shortly T.. gotta fix some time .. my appologies )

Phoenix... So many there I gotta do...just dont wanna appear ignorant,,, goes for evryone else too ... One day I'll get some "Time" dammit.

All the Love ..Phoenix