What about our children?

[beldazar]

Does anyone out there have any advice on how to tell our kids what is going on and how to help them to awaken? I have 2 boys, 4 and 12, my 12 year old doesnt even believe in aliens and is trapped into gaming, playstation usually, I try very hard to restrict him but he just gets angry, and even incessantly talks about playstation games when he isnt playing. Are there any books out there to start him off? I am struggling to use the right words for him, there are some really good vids out there about quantum physics but these are far too complicated for him to understand, any ideas anyone??????
any information will be much appreciated!
Love to All xxxx

[zarah]

Hi..

Im having the same problem with both my children who're 15 and 11.

What Ive started doing is pointing out the obvious discrepancies while we're watching the news, such as the amount of times 'freedom', 'democracy' and 'extremist' were repeated in yesterday's interviews over the Bhutto killing. My rationale is that if I start with media, the rest will follow as they get older and become more aware themselves. Also listen to the questions they ask..my 11 year old asked a major one about music a lil while ago which made me realised he's more aware than Id given him credit for.

Any other advice'd be more than welcome though.

[rossus]

if your kid is a gaming addict,
try sitting with him front to front...
and usualy this will make him feel nervous or unhappy, as he is used to escaping reality all the time.

and if he feels bad, point it to him.
say "look u obviously feel bad, and that's why you constantly run away in computer games.
why don't you try to learn to be happy, instead of having to escape from reality?"

it would be better if he'd do some kind of sport instead of play computer games,
like play basketball or soccer... or perhaps learn play an instrument.

maybe he is lacking good influence of friends his age,
and you could get him in touch with someone his age who has a healthier hobby than playing computer games.

because maybe he finds it a bit scary to do something new alone.

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forcefully taking away what is bad for him, will make him react negatively.
it's better to try to make him aware that what he is doing makes him unhappy...

by trying to get him to be honest to himself about the way he feels,
when he is doing the things he does.

[malvern]

tell them the truth, as subjects come up explain the best you can a balanced view, but never lie..... the children undrestand more than we credit them... we build up the barriers of limits, and bloke out other paths of learning.... tell the children the truth, and be a true example to them..


freedom belongs to the grandchildren...we our just the caretakers

[lifeofbrian]

Pink Floyd - Another Brick in the Wall - part 2 - YouTube

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

We don't need no education
We dont need no thought control
No dark sarcasm in the classroom
Teachers leave them kids alone
Hey! Teachers! Leave them kids alone!
All in all it's just another brick in the wall.
All in all you're just another brick in the wall.

"Wrong, Do it again!"
"If you don't eat yer meat, you can't have any pudding. How can you
have any pudding if you don't eat yer meat?"
"You! Yes, you behind the bikesheds, stand still laddy!"

[beldazar]

Thanks for such a quick response from people! Thankyou rossus for your reply, my son had lots of problems when he was younger, he has NO friends at all and was 'labelled' as borderline autism, the psychologist did tell me which one but i cant remember now, they thought he had dyspraxia, 'clumsy child syndrome' and his aura is red, meant to be a sign of hidden anger, he does seem like a happy child but seems to have an addictive personality. I am going to get some supplies to make holy hand grenades and i am hoping that will help. Love to All xxxx

[kblood]

In my oppinion computer games does not have to be bad. I like playing computer games, sometimes even 8 hours a day. These days it is difficult to keep playing the same game for more than 30min to 1hour though, maybe because of the awakening going on or something. The general restlesness in me, and I am guessing most people feel it.

But my point is, that I am in fact quite happy these days. I like were things are going, and I have a positive view on the future, although so many claims doom might be near. As I see it, the fight for freedom is winning. What keeps me playing is that in real life I sometimes get addicted to adrenaline rushs, and after having had a few of those which might have been too great, then everyday life gets to be a bit boring, although I like everyday life. I dont mind it being quiet and boring, not at all. Computer games makes up for it though, and when not playing computer games I enjoy watching some movies, this forum, work and spending time with family and friends. Sometimes I go out and have a few beers or drinks with some friends as well. Tomorrow I will visit my parents and play a game of poker with them and my brother, maybe even my sister as well. Dont know if poker is her kind of game though. My point is I do not see computer games as something that makes someone distant from reality, although they can do that to some.

If your son plays as much as you say, and only talks computer games when not playing... I have to admit I have been like that myself a few years ago... then I guess a hobby might be good for him, but at that age it seems quite normal to me to get consumed by something, like computer games, magic cards, some kind of sport or some other kind of hobby. The difference between a computer game and sports is the computer games might not be social, so I guess the important thing is mostly if he plays because his friends play the games as well, and thereby might make it somewhat social? Does he talk with friends about the games he play, and they play? Maybe they play the games multiplayer?

To be honest, I do not see why it is better for kids to have computer games as a hobby, as opposed to playing sports, at least if when playing sports it becomes the whole life of the kid. It seems much more mindnumbing to me when the interest in sports is only watching it and not even playing it, as opposed to computer games, unless it is only the most violent computer games maybe. Like Tekken and first person shooters as the only games.

As for making them aware about what is going on, I think it is a good idea to start out small, pointing out a few things here and there. I remember back in my school days, I questioned the teachers and sometimes did not believe them. Some of the other kids said ironically, yea why trust the teachers, they obviously wouldnt know... really shows the kind of blind faith kids have in teachers, and with that amount of blind faith it probably takes longer to unwind all the lies later in the childrens lives.

[rossus]

12 is a difficult age,
he has lost the freedom of not having to worry about stuff like kids of younger age.
he is now in a world, with more responsabilities and where different rules apply.

he has to be cool now, otherwise he won't get accepted.
maybe he's subconsciously starting to get interested into girls,
but is insecure... and this create battle inside himself.

most people have hidden anger and fears and all that...
doctors will be more than happy to put all kinds of labels on him.
anyone who experience temporary difficulty in function in a abnormal system, doctors will call abnormal.

i don't think orgonite works, but i won't stop you from giving it a try. :)

it's easy to make yourself unhappy because your kid make himself unhappy.
this will only create a more difficult situation for both parents and kids.

many things are out of our control. we should do our best to have a good influence,
but if we fail in making things better we should not make ourselves feel bad for it.

many kids learn from their parents and friends how to make themselves unhappy.
keep your head clear and your heart open. and if you don't make yourself unhappy,
this will make a good example for the kid.

[kblood]

Thanks for such a quick response from people! Thankyou rossus for your reply, my son had lots of problems when he was younger, he has NO friends at all and was 'labelled' as borderline autism, the psychologist did tell me which one but i cant remember now, they thought he had dyspraxia, 'clumsy child syndrome' and his aura is red, meant to be a sign of hidden anger, he does seem like a happy child but seems to have an addictive personality. I am going to get some supplies to make holy hand grenades and i am hoping that will help. Love to All xxxx

Ahh, in that case I guess different hobbies would be better. Autism might thrive when spending too much time with games, although I believe psychiatrists today got a wrong view on most mental disorders. Usually the cure for most mental disorders is treating the person as a human being. Learning to play instruments seems a good idea, but I guess some kind of social hobby would be good as well.

Does he has a hard time seeing how others might feel? Doesnt he understand when someone is hurt or sad? As far as I know I believe it is something he can learn, although it is probably a bit like being illiterate, and having to spend alot more time learning to read.

[nessa felagund]

tell them the truth, as subjects come up explain the best you can a balanced view, but never lie..... the children undrestand more than we credit them... we build up the barriers of limits, and bloke out other paths of learning.... tell the children the truth, and be a true example to them..


freedom belongs to the grandchildren...we our just the caretakers

This is the advice I was going to give you. Way to go malvern--right on! I have a daughter who will be 14 on Jan. 1st. I have always been honest with her.

She also hears her dad and I talk about the truth in our home.

She knows that when she asks either one of us about anything, she will get a truthful answer--even if it is "we don't know."

Don't be afraid to admit that you don't have all the answers. Kids can sense whether or not you are telling the truth. :)

[mad as a cat]

My son is 13 yrs old, and I tell him the truth (as best I know it) about what is going on in the world.
I tone some things down - for example, I don't let him see pictures of children killed in war - but he knows enough about the way animals are treated,that he has chosen a vegetarian diet.

Sometimes, I tell him I'm sorry to have put this burden on such young shoulders - his response is that he'd be spitting mad with me, if I didn't tell him the truth!
I don't think age is necessarily a good guide, as children, like adults are ready for difficult experiences at different stages of their development.

I have not kept much from my son - conversely, as a child, I had many secrets kept from me, 'for my own good', and I felt a lack of trust in my family because of this - not a nice way to spend your childhood!

I hope this is of help.:)