Hitler was an Illuminati Plant

[joyful]

Hitler was a spy and worked for military counter intelligence
Monday, 12 November 2007
By William Tatsiou

Recent research confirms that Adolf Hitler was a spy for military counter intelligence. Hitler was also a professor at a military academy.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1512/hitler4ee5.jpg
Adolf Hitler poses with a group of SS members soon after his appointment as Chancellor. (February 1933).

These facts are not widely known. Hitler is often described as a poor and frustrated painter who became homeless and subsequently became indoctrinated by anti-semites. The fact of the matter is he was a spy and a decorated war veteran who could be trusted and controlled by the military establishment.

Hitler took part in "national thinking" courses organized by the Education and Propaganda Department of the Bavarian Reichswehr Group, Headquarters 4 under Captain Karl Mayr. In July 1919, Hitler was appointed a Verbindungsmann (police spy) of an Aufklärungskommando (Intelligence Commando) of the Reichswehr.

In this historical context, Hitler enters the stage as part of the counter intelligence network established to spy on the reds. Hitler was ordered to attend meetings held by the fledgling NDSAP Nazi party. He writes in Mein Kampf:

"One day I received orders from my headquarters to find out what was behind an apparently political organization which was planning to hold a meeting...under the name of 'German Workers' Party'...I was told to go and take a look at the organization and then make a report...

Hitler reported back in a secret memo that they only had seven members, they were not communists notwithstanding the name "German Workers Party" and they were not a threat. With his work completed he wanted to move on to his next assignment.

His superiors in military counter intelligence denied his request and instead ordered him to become a NSDAP member and to help organize and build up the party. Money and resources were secretly sent to the NDSAP, which quickly grew in membership and strength.

Money flowed in from business interests, the German state and even foreign governments. By 1930 Hitler had gained the financial support of rich industrialists, the western press, such as the Daily Mail in London, and european royals such as the Duke of Windsor and his wife. Western bankers and wealthy families also supported Hitler during the early years.

Hitler is not the only secret service operative to attain control of a powerful state. Russian President Vladimir Putin is a fomer head of the KGB. U.S. President George Bush sr. is a former head of the CIA...

Full Article;
http://thetorontotimes.com/content/view/636/68/

In light of this, it seems to me that having hundreds of thousands of european jews stuck in camps with no country to go to was a convenient and timely political leverage for Zionism at the end of the war...

[elysiansix]

According to Fritz Springmeier (on one of his videos) Hitler's mother was forced or paid to have sex with a Rothschild, so he was half Jewish.

Makes sense.

[mariag]

I don´t doubt this a second. :)

[nikolaijovanovic]

Mainly true. Hitler was in fact working in the Weimar miltary in Military intelligence. And had been since being invalided out of ww1.

But. Gathering intelligence on the communist party. Nothing else. That is why peole often think he started out as a communist as he joined the party.

[nikolaijovanovic]

Oh yeah, the Daily Mail dropped thier support when it became apparent they were anti jewish. But, they dropped their support of the BUF (Oswald Mosely and his small brained followers) not Hitler - they never supported Hitler. Bit too German (or Austrian) for them.

[tb303]

http://www.apfn.net/messageboard/01-31-06/hitler-was-brit.jpg

http://www.angelfire.com/trek/spymaster/auth.htm

[lizzy]

" Agent ?
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
January 28, 2006

By Henry Makow Ph.D

Greg Hallett's book "Hitler Was A British Agent" depicts war as a ghoulish illusion conjured by occult magicians in order to degrade and eventually enslave humanity in world government.

Hallett's claim that Hitler was a "British" agent is based on the testimony of a shadowy network of retired intelligence agents. While he fails to provide documentary proof, Hallett does offer persuasive circumstantial evidence.

For example, Adolph Hitler was in England in 1912-1913, a fact supported by his sister-in-law's book: "The Memoirs of Bridget Hitler"(1979). Many historians including Hitler biographer John Toland have ignored this startling information. (If Hallett is right, historians like Toland are guilty of sanitizing Hitler and actually making him more credible than he was.)

Hallett says Hitler spent February to November 1912 being brainwashed and trained at the British Military Psych-Ops War School at Tavistock in Devon and in Ireland. "War machines need war and [that means they need] funded, trained and supported double agents to be their patsies, their puppets and their puppet enemies," Hallett writes (38).

His sister-in-law describes Hitler as completely wasted when he arrived at her Liverpool home baggageless. "I had an idea he was ill, his colour was so bad and his eyes looked so peculiar," she wrote. "He was always reading, not books, little pamphlets printed in German. I don't know what was in them nor exactly where they came from." (pp. 29,35) Hallett says these were Tavistock training manuals.

"Hitler was a British Agent" is useful as an alternative paradigm. (Usually we cannot recognize truth because we have the wrong paradigm, i.e. our "education.") When Hallett says "British", he means Illuminati, the Masonic cult of super rich bankers who control an interlocking network of megacartels. This cult is based in the City of London but uses England and most nations and ideologies, as sock puppets in a the Punch and Judy show called modern history.

Hallett's claim would clarify many improbable events in the Second World War. For example, why did Hitler let 335,000 Allied soldiers escape at Dunkirk? This quixotic gesture was explained as a peace overture, but surely England would have been more attentive if its army were in Nazi POW camps.

The Nazi triumph in May 1940 was like a knock-out in the first round. The Illuminati did not intend for the match to end so soon, nor for the Nazis to win.

In the summer of 1940, when the Nazis were triumphant and Britain prostrate, Nazi Military Intelligence Chief (Abwehr) Admiral Wilhelm Canaris told Romanian Foreign Minister Prince Michael Sturdza to stay neutral because England would win the war. He also gave this message to Spanish dictator Franco.

Hallett's theory also explains why Hitler, supposedly the arch enemy of Jewish bankers, acted like he didn't know the Rothschilds controlled England (and America) when this was practically common knowledge. If Hitler were for real, he wouldn't have tried to accommodate these countries. England would have been invaded and conquered before Russia was attacked.

Hallett's hypothesis explains 1)Why Hitler was able to expand into the Rhineland etc. without fear of retaliation. 2) Why the Nazi war machine was financed and built by the Bank of England and a Who's Who of Anglo American corporations controlled by the Illuminati. 3) Why Hitler never sealed the Mediterranean at Gibraltar; and why the Spanish dictator Franco remained neutral, despite the huge debt he owed the Nazis from the Civil War. 4) Why I.G. Farben headquarters in Frankfurt was never bombed. This became CIA headquarters. 5) Why the Bank of England rewarded Hitler for taking Prague by giving him the Czech gold reserves held in London.

It would explain why Hitler gave his ridiculous racial policies priority over actually winning the war. He could have enlisted millions of Slavs (and even many Jews) in overcoming Communist Russia. Instead, he made them implacable enemies willing to fight to the death.

We could question why Japan attacked the U.S. instead of Russia; why the Nazis never figured out that their communications were compromised; why Hitler didn't conquer the oil fields of Russia and the Middle East when he had the chance etc. but you get the picture. The fix was in.


WHO WAS HITLER?


The biggest improbability of all is that an Austrian tramp, street cleaner and gay prostitute could become the Chancellor of Germany. Hitler joins a long list of obscure blackmailable figures who have been catapulted to world prominence with the aid of an unseen hand.

Hallett writes that Hitler's grandfather was Nathan Meyer Rothschild. Maria Schickelgruber, Hitler's grandmother, was a maid in the Rothschild's Vienna mansion when his father, Alois was conceived "in fear" in a satanic ritual rape. The Rothschilds could only marry within their extended family so they had illegitimate children who functioned as anonymous agents.

(Apparently this is a pattern with the Illuminati. Bill Clinton is rumored to be a Rockefeller.)

His grandmother received child support from a Jewish businessman who was probably an intermediary for his grandfather. Bridget Hitler quotes Hitler's sister Paula: "Since [Adolf] started the race laws we have no grandfather, Adolf and I. Certainly anyone who wished could make a good deal out of that." (Memoirs, p. 175)

Rothschild's son, Alois Hitler's third marriage was to his niece, Klara, who became Hitler's mother. His father was abusive and his mother over- compensated. Hitler became destitute at age 18 when his mother died, and he lived in a Vienna men's hostel that was a haunt for homosexuals.

According to Lothar Machtan's "The Hidden Hitler"(2001), there is no question Hitler was a practising homosexual with a long police record both in Munich and Vienna. These records reached both Russia and England but were never used for propaganda, more evidence that the war may have been a charade. (Machtan also says Hitler tried to join the Communist Party after the war but was rejected for demanding too much, evidence he may have been a "gun for hire.")

In 1912, Hitler traveled to England for training as an Illuminati agent which took place in German. This "training" ranged from imbibing a sense of his role in Germany's destiny to learning how to mesmerize audiences.

It also included trauma brainwashing. The "alter's" consciousness is shattered by witnessing savage atrocities and suffering sexual abuse, all of which is filmed. Then the various fragments of consciousness are programmed and can be accessed with special code words. (Read Fritz Springmeier and Cisco Wheeler for a detailed description of Illuminati mind control techniques. )

Hitler returned to Germany in May 1913 and enlisted in the German army. During World War One, he served as a runner and was captured twice by the English. On both occasions, he was spared execution by an "angel" in British intelligence.

According to Hallett, Hitler enjoyed having women defecate on him. He also had undersized genitals and only one testicle. (Many women whom he courted committed suicide. The love of his life was his 17-year-old half-niece Geli whom he murdered in 1931 when she got pregnant by his chauffeur. Machtan argues that Hitlers real affections were for the chauffeur.)

(For more on Nazi Homosexuality, see "The Pink Swastika" online.

IMPLICATIONS


History is unfolding according to the Illuminati's long-term plan. Wars are plotted decades in advance and orchestrated to achieve the destruction of nations and natural elites, depopulation, demoralization, and of course power and profit.

The super rich have organized themselves into a satanic cult to prey on mankind and to establish their permanent hegemony. Put yourself in the central bankers' shoes. The nations of the world owe you trillions based on money you printed for the cost of paper and ink. The only way to protect this "investment" is to establish a thinly disguised dictatorship, using sophisticated methods of social and mind control. This is the true meaning of the "War on Terror." It's not directed at "Muslim terrorists." It's directed at you and me.

According to Hallett, Joseph Stalin was another Illuminati "agent of war" who attended the Tavistock Psyche Ops training school in 1907. Clifford Shack has suggested that Stalin was also an illegitimate offspring of a Rothschild.

Hallett says Hitler's death was faked (a double was killed) and Hitler escaped to Barcelona where he lived until 1950, when he died of stomach cancer.

Greg Hallett is a maverick and his rambling book is full of repetition and digressions. I wouldn't swear by any of Hallett's claims as yet. But he deserves our thanks for advancing an alternative view of history that while far- fetched is more plausible than what supposedly transpired. We should be able to entertain speculative views without feeling compelled to accept or reject them.

World War Two achieved all of the Illuminati's goals. Germany and Japan were turned into a wasteland. Sixty million people were slaughtered. The Jewish holocaust motivated Jews to establish the Rothschild's world government headquarters in Israel. Idealists and natural leaders on both sides were slaughtered. Nations were laden with debt. The United Nations rose like a phoenix from the ashes. Hiroshima cast a pall of terror over the world. The USSR was a superpower and controlled Eastern Europe. The stage was set for the next act...the Cold War.

Given the bleak outlook for humanity, there is a tendency to actually idealize Hitler as an opponent of central banker hegemony. I fell into this trap myself. Hallett's book is an important reminder that like Stalin and Mao, Hitler was a monster; and the Illuminati sponsor "enemies" in order to foment conflict, and keep humanity in its thrall.


---------

[peachped]

And he only had one ball. :rolleyes:

[joyful]

" Agent ?
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
January 28, 2006

By Henry Makow Ph.D

Greg Hallett's book "Hitler Was A British Agent" depicts war as a ghoulish illusion conjured by occult magicians in order to degrade and eventually enslave humanity in world government.

WOW thanks

[hagbard_celine]

Hitler was a spy and worked for military counter intelligence
Monday, 12 November 2007
By William Tatsiou

Recent research confirms that Adolf Hitler was a spy for military counter intelligence. Hitler was also a professor at a military academy.

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/1512/hitler4ee5.jpg
Adolf Hitler poses with a group of SS members soon after his appointment as Chancellor. (February 1933).

These facts are not widely known. Hitler is often described as a poor and frustrated painter who became homeless and subsequently became indoctrinated by anti-semites. The fact of the matter is he was a spy and a decorated war veteran who could be trusted and controlled by the military establishment.

Hitler took part in "national thinking" courses organized by the Education and Propaganda Department of the Bavarian Reichswehr Group, Headquarters 4 under Captain Karl Mayr. In July 1919, Hitler was appointed a Verbindungsmann (police spy) of an Aufklärungskommando (Intelligence Commando) of the Reichswehr.

In this historical context, Hitler enters the stage as part of the counter intelligence network established to spy on the reds. Hitler was ordered to attend meetings held by the fledgling NDSAP Nazi party. He writes in Mein Kampf:



Hitler reported back in a secret memo that they only had seven members, they were not communists notwithstanding the name "German Workers Party" and they were not a threat. With his work completed he wanted to move on to his next assignment.

His superiors in military counter intelligence denied his request and instead ordered him to become a NSDAP member and to help organize and build up the party. Money and resources were secretly sent to the NDSAP, which quickly grew in membership and strength.

Money flowed in from business interests, the German state and even foreign governments. By 1930 Hitler had gained the financial support of rich industrialists, the western press, such as the Daily Mail in London, and european royals such as the Duke of Windsor and his wife. Western bankers and wealthy families also supported Hitler during the early years.

Hitler is not the only secret service operative to attain control of a powerful state. Russian President Vladimir Putin is a fomer head of the KGB. U.S. President George Bush sr. is a former head of the CIA...

Full Article;
http://thetorontotimes.com/content/view/636/68/

In light of this, it seems to me that having hundreds of thousands of european jews stuck in camps with no country to go to was a convenient and timely political leverage for Zionism at the end of the war...

This fits like a glove!

[phantom]

I don't buy this for one minute.

If you read about this Greg Hallett and his buddy the Spymaster they come across as some kind of james bond type guys. I mean, listen to this crap.

ABOUT THE AUTHORS
The authors' wake up each morning quite surprised they are still breathing. OH PLEASE!

The Spymaster has worked in a background of undeclared hostilities over many years. He has gone undercover amongst Nazis, Communists, Marxists and some of the most vicious gangs of criminals in New Zealand. Several times other people have been killed in his place in cases of mistaken identity. The Spymaster has been arrested more times than he can remember and by more outfits than he can remember. He has been on both sides of enforcement operations. He has an in-depth knowledge of offenders in New Zealand and is often sought out by people in high places. Former Prime Minister Rob Muldoon once said of him, "If St Peter ever made a mistake and let you into heaven, there'd be a fistfight in five minutes".

Greg Hallett trained in various psychological models in parallel with his architecture degree and training. He travelled widely behind the Iron Curtain during the Cold War, hitchhiking on planes, making bunks out of airmail bags, to party and report between cities. His contacts in Eastern Europe led to deep penetration of the Soviet State, how it functioned and how it was to colonise the West. It was these qualifications that led him to buy buildings in Moscow immediately after the Berlin Wall fell. This led to interviews with the KGB and their revelations about the planned sex-communism and deconstruction of Westerners. What they had planned for the West happened in the West. Equally all modern history can be dated back to 1945. What Hitler planned for the world happened to the world over the next sixty years.

INTELLIGENCE TALES
When Hallett teamed up with the Spymaster they found they had many of the insights and historical answers to many of the controversies of Europe from WWII to the Cold War and the present . . . not completely disregarding aspects of the future.

In listening to each other's stories they noticed a lot of common ground and have attempted to lay this bare for you.

"Take of it what you will. We don't expect you to reject sixty years of official history overnight, but we do expect you to view it with new-found suspicion."

"Any serious attempt at the truth creates controversy and we expect Hitler was a British Agent to be considered as the most expedient option of creating war."

The Spymaster says that he will often go on operations and end up in entirely the wrong place with the wrong people at the wrong time, but always much wiser. Through such coincidences, history is often more explicable to the ordinary man than a lot of complicated analysis. We found "filling-in-the-gaps analysis" to be a primary cause of ill-informed history. As such, Hallett and the Spymaster have teamed up to give you this riveting insight into how the enemies of war are created and how enemies work together to prolong and expand wars.

This authoritative and unique insider's look at Hitler outlines his missing year, his British psychological training and financial support, his British-linked minders, and the British sabotage of the Hitler assassination attempts. It outlines in great detail, Operation WINNIE THE POOH, (It smells like poo) Hitler's escape out of Berlin on 2 May 1945, who he flew with, what planes he caught, their serial numbers, where he flew to, who greeted him, where he spent the remainder of his life and what he eventually died of.

FILE THEFT
WWII has passed its 60-year suppression rule.

Despite this, information coming out about WWII is still controlled as it reflects on how the current wars are carried out.

File theft is such common practise it is a forerunner to any elevation.

Two Intelligence agencies have regularly stolen Hitler was a British Agent and "it has been read at the highest levels" during the final phases of writing. As quickly as it was written it was stolen and in August 2005 word got back that they would let it out. This came with further inside information and at least one historical act.

The question remains . . .
did the theft of Hitler was a British Agent in disk form on 11 May 2005
cause the Tavistock Square bombing on 7 July 2005?

Read the rest of the article at http://www.hitlerwasabritishagent.com/ (http://www.hitlerwasabritishagent.com/)

To use an old English term, it is a load of poppycock. If this is all supposed to be secret why wasn't this spymaster and Greg Hallett murdered by intelligence agents?

Don't believe the hype!

As it says at the end of the article: Hitler was a British Agent is full of intelligence jokes. It should read: Hitler was a British Agent is a joke.

And just to add Ian Fleming, the creator of James Bond, was supposed to have helped Hitler escape Berlin in 1945.

I'll say no more.

[phantom]

So, Ian Fleming, the creator of James Bond, helped Hitler escape at the end of the war did he? :rolleyes:

Not according to this report.

Cremated Remains Of Adolf Hitler And Eva Braun Were Scattered Over Elbe (http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/death/FSS_release_211207.html)

THE Federal Security Service [former KGB - translator] has concluded one of the greatest mysteries of the Twentieth Century. To mark the 90th anniversary of the Service, nine new and formerly classified documents have been presented in the Central Museum of the Great Patriotic War, which revealed the ultimate fate of the charred remains of the Hitler's body.

You can read the rest by clicking here (http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/death/FSS_release_211207.html)

[nickatnoon61]

They spit in our faces!




“This fictitious conflict between the Zionists and the liberal Jews soon disgusted me, for it was false through and through.”
— Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf




By John Kaminski
skylax@comcast.net



Do you share in the lie that you live in a free world and can say and do anything you want?

And do you believe in your government’s right to limit what you say in the interest of “national security’? It’s a difficult decision when you know your government is criminal.

There are certain things you cannot say, you know, or funny things happen to you. Not so funny, really. For saying the “wrong” thing, you can easily lose your livelihood or your life.

In the ancient streets of Jerusalem, fundamentalist Israeli Jews routinely spit on those with different beliefs. Especially favorite targets are visiting clergymen such as priests, preachers and imams who visit their Holy Land to venerate the history of their own holy books. And what do these pilgrims get for their effort? Jews spit in their faces.

See http://ww4report.com/node/1046

This is the message Jews have conveyed to humanity from time immemorial. This is what the Jews are saying to the world. In their newspapers. In their movies. In their school curricula. They spit in our faces. They pornographize our culture. They destroy our world.

Sick snobs stuck in the poison plastic of New York Times reality glower in a stupor of sanctimonious superiority while the illegal and immoral underpinnings of their predatory wealth disintegrate. Think about all those millions of people who have been unfairly murdered in the past few years. All of sudden, people are putting the words "9/11" and "Israel" together.

Who else could it have been? American leaders wouldn't kill their own people, would they? How much money would it take? And who has that kind of money? Maybe the people who invented and control money, eh? That would be the Jews.

The great hurdle the American people have yet to surpass is realizing that the mass murder of 3,000 people in New York City in 2001 was CLEARLY an inside job, covered over by intense media blather about terrorism with not a whiff of a story that these events were planned and executed by deep-cover intelligence agencies, using robotic Blackwater-type operatives.

No one in the so-called real world recognizes this reality officially. You don’t hear this on TV. No politician dares utter a word about it.

Yet they all know. I’m not saying they all knew it was going to happen, but I am saying some of them did. And I’m saying now that ALL of them (everyone in Congress) KNOWS that elements of the Bush White House, driven by its powerful Israeli presence, engineered the whole operation as a sadistic and tragic way to further unfairly defame Arabs, by painting them (and impersonating them) as the ultimate terrorists. It’s pretty clear who all these people are, and, by the way, they’re still in power. In fact, all of the current presidential candidates except (maybe) Ron Paul are in on the scam.

Which speaks volumes about the condition, the receptivity, the powers of perception, and the conscience of the American people. These faculties must be severely impaired to have attained this level of mechanical barbarity being imposed on all these bogus pretenses throughout the world.

Have you pondered the plight of our soldiers lately? The diseases they come home with, you realize, are made in the states by Jewish scientists (remember Oppenheimer?) for the purpose of destroying the lives of every living thing these weapons touch.

Yet you sallie on. Some of you think the presence of Neturei Karta, those bearded Jews who claim to be against Israel, demonstrates that the Jewish community is diverse in opinion and objective. I submit that it is not — that it is hellbent on subjugating the entire race of humans into what they call "goyim," who are livestock puppets in this theater of the absurd that they have commandeered.

This is the only accurate template that adequately describes what is happening to our world.

Death is their product, and hate is their engine. Self-hating Jews are programmed to kill. By their beloved holy book, The Talmud, and their greatest philosopher, Maimonides.

To kill us.

Because they hate themselves.

Which is why they go around spitting on people.

And why they must, according to their programming, destroy the world.

To try to convey to you the danger to our future, I must overcome several obstacles.

First is your conditioning, your "holocaust programming." Remember that nowhere in the memoirs of Churchill, DeGaulle and Eisenhower, the three Western leaders in World War II, is there any mention of a Jewish holocaust or Germans gassing anybody. The Holocaust programming came during the 1960s with the JFK assassination, after which aid to Israel skyrocketed. Writer Elie Wiesel's book "Night" later won him the Nobel Prize, despite proof that his work was hysterical fiction. Making soap from the skin of Jews. Indeed. Or the Auschwitz gas chamber that was built two years after the war ended.

Jews don't believe in freedom of speech. They prove it every day with their Holocaust laws, which prohibit discussion of a certain topic because it is “offensive” to them. And because it is a lie. The very fact they have to make laws preventing discussion of this topic AUTOMATICALLY means it IS a lie.

The second part is tougher to comprehend. Every particle of information you have ingested throughout your lifetime has been transmitted to you through Jewish censors — writers, publishers, distributors, policymakers — that has shaped you in its image.

This means that you are partly screened from seeing certain subjects. Money and religion are two of these.

But more importantly, we all grew up believing in an American dream. It was the basis of our society, if I remember correctly from my childhood. We believed in honesty, and thrift. We were disciplined, creative, and respectful. We wanted the best for everyone. This was the American way.

But it's not now. And you can guess — in fact, in your gut, you know — why this has happened.

Our decency has been terribly eroded, and we no longer believe in the future, at least not in the way we used to.

Why it has happened is full spectrum Jewish influence through ...

• Psychiatry, which remains technically a science that doesn't exist, turned us all into neurotic drug addicts, and literally afraid of our own shadows.

• Education, the redaction of all ancient literature through Jewish publishers. Foremost is the Scofield Bible, which trains evangelicals for obedience to Israel in an armageddon programmed to occur.

• Commerce, the distribution networks for virtually all products are all Jewish. The CEOs of most production companies are Jewish. The medical and legal establishments are Jewish. And the result, as in both medicine and the law, is the production for profit of products that are poisonous, ultimately meant to harm people.

• Finance, the Federal Reserve has skimmed half the profits from the American workforce for the last CENTURY! It was a Jewish invention, just like the two World Wars, just like the constant wars happening now.

• Media: Beloved songwriter Irving Berlin was sued for monopolizing American music in 1927, and what we have had are completely Jewish music and movies ever since. Didn't you love Milton Berle? But what was he really telling you? That you’re a buffoon, with no power over anything.

• Politics: Aid to Israel skyrocketed after the Kennedy assassination, and Vietnam lingered on. The Holocaust legend was invented and publicized. Drugs were practically legalized. And then, through TV, the great dumbing down began in earnest. But this game is almost 150 years old, and the Jewish consolidation of our false reality is practically complete.

Are you the adults your parents hoped you would be?

Well, maybe. But one thing's sure. This isn't the world they hoped you would live in.

The words of Eustace Mullins forever ring in my ears. "You will not achieve your dreams because of the presence of the Jew."

And this is what has happened to America 2007.

I suggest the following course of action for gentiles who take exception to the ruination of our beautiful world by a parasitic culture that roams the world subverting honest people with alluring corruption. This is the way the world has always worked, and the only way to hold the line against it is by honest assessment of the chains that bind us to the whim of the superrich, who have created their money out of nothing, and other criminal schemes.

But more than anything else, we need to treat Jews exactly as they treat us.

For starters, let's spit on them. They spit on us, we spit back. Will they use their 500 nuclear weapons? Maybe, maybe not. Jews always get others to do their fighting for them, then they pick up the pieces and conduct mass exterminations later, like they did in Russia, 60 million Christians liquidated in the Gulags, remember? This was a wholly Jewish enterprise, remember? And they controlled Roosevelt, so America approved of all of this, remember?

No, you doubtless don't. Why? Because you have been raised on Jewish history, from CBS to Dr. Spock, from Charlie Chaplin to Michael Eisner. Jewish history doesn’t mention the Armenian genocide (done by Jews), or the great Ukrainian starvation (done by Jews). Nor does official Jewish history ever mention that the initial financing of Adolf Hitler was done by Jews to create a great sacrifice of their own people to prove to the world, as recommended by Zionism inventor Theodore Herzl, that the Jews needed Israel to escape from anti-Semitism.

The world is beginning to finally realize that anti-Semitism is generated by the Jews themselves as a way to conceal their widespread social crimes.

So, let's enforce the very laws by which Jews afflict the Amalek (the rest of the people in the world) and put these insane laws back on the heads of the Jews, where they belong.

For instance,

• Many Palestinian babies die in childbirth while waiting for needless hours in barbed wire enclosures for sadistic Israeli guards to "process their papers" so the mothers can go to a hospital to deliver. So, let's make all Jewish mothers in the U.S. about to give birth wait on a grimy New York City street for 16 hours surrounded by NYPD barbed wire, and let her watch her baby die of neglect while her guards snicker in derision at her tragedy and mutter "one less cockroach to feed".

• Make all Jewish parents in U.S. send their children to spend a month on the streets of Baghdad dressed as a typical Iraqi and see close up what Mossad-trained, U.S.-sponsored Blackwater mercenaries would do to them. It wouldn't even record their names as your children were used as target practice by these Washington-approved sociopaths (which are about to be deployed in the United States). Speculate on what official, Rumsfeld-created U.S. policy toward your young and beautiful daughters would be, and whether the pervs in the White House would get to watch the video later.

• Make all Israeli children under the age of 10 walk through the hills of Lebanon where the Israeli army dropped millions of unexploded cluster bombs for future Lebanese children to discover sometime in the future.

• Make it a capital offense if any Jew defames any other religion, just like the new court in Israel which with U.S. help snatches dissidents from around the world and tortures them before execution.

No law can ever be just if it does not apply to everyone equally. Therefore, all the Holocaust laws are unjust and undefendable because they have been created for the benefit of one group, the group that has pulled the wool over our eyes for centuries, and now is the central obstacle to our healthy evolution.

The goal of all future banking systems must be to criminalize usury. Half the profit of all humanity's labor is sucked out of the real people's economy by psychic vampires who convince us that to kill is to love, and to love is usually an unprofitable venture.

And that's precisely why the world is going down the tubes.

Then ask yourself this question.

Why is it that the only thing Jews are really afraid of is the truth?



John Kaminski is a writer who lives on the Gulf Coast of Florida whose Internet essays have been seen on hundreds of websites around the world. Stay tuned for http://johnkaminski.org/



Postscript: Ever wonder why the Talmud isn’t a best selling book like the Bible? My friend Virginia, who has proven herself in many Internet debates to be an implacable friend of the Jews, nevertheless produced this account of a trial over the truth of the Talmud. She wrote:

It has been frequently alleged on the Jewish side that translations of the disputed passages made by Gentiles are inaccurate and misleading. However, there are numbers of cases in which the matter has been tested in the law courts and the translations upheld as exactly conveying the meaning of the original text.

One of the most notable of these cases was heard in Hungary. Dr. Alfred Luzsensky in 1910 translated about 400 passages from the Talmud into Hungarian; In 1923 Luzsensky was charged in a Government prosecution with 'pornography" and "corruption of public morals" by circulation of his work, which was ordered to be confiscated. Luzensky, however, was acquitted by the Courts and the confiscation suspended. According to Warren Weston's book Father of Lies (Militant Christian Patriots, London, 1938), the Hungarian Court in the course of its judgment said:

The horrors contained in the translation of Alfred Luzensky are without exception found in the Talmud. His translation is accurate, for it renders these passages which are really in the text of the Talmud, in their exact meaning.

The testimony of the court expert, Dr. Kmosko, is also of interest. According to Erfurt "World Service" of June 1, 1937, he said: "

To the first question asked by the court as to whether Luzensky's translation corresponds to the original Talmud, I must answer with definite 'Yes'. The underlying principle of the Gemara is that the non-Jews are not human beings, but beasts.'

In 1932 Dr. Luzsensky published a German translation of his book, and in Warren Weston's book referred to above appear a number of passages from the Talmud which he states are taken from this German translation of Luzsensky. The texts are in agreement with what has appeared in many other publications. The following are typical specimens:

"The Jew is to say on Purim Day: ... cursed be all non-Jews, blessed be all Jews." (Orach Chaim, 660, 16).

"Theft, robbery and rape of a beautiful woman and similar deeds are forbidden to every Gentile toward another Gentile and also toward a Jew. But they are allowed to a Jew against a non-Jew." (Sanhedrin, 57 a; also Abodah Zara, 13b).

"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." (Aboda Zara 4b).

"Those who do not own the Torah must all be killed. Whoever has power to kill them openly with the sword, if not let him use artifices until they are all done away with." (Choschen ha-Mischpat, 425, 5).

"If a Jew has a suit with a non-Jew, you (Jewish judge) will take the Jew's side as far as possible, and you will say to the non-Jew: Thus it is according to your law. If neither of these alternatives is possible, then you must cheat." (Bab Kama, 113a.

"It is allowed to cheat a Gentile and take usury from him". (Baba Mezia, 61 a.)

"God has commanded us to take usury from the Gentile and lend him only when he consents to repay with usury, in order that we do not create profit for him, even if there accrued no profit to us." (Sepher Mizwoth, 73 a)

"A thing lost by a Gentile may not only be kept by the man who found it, but it is even forbidden to give it back to him." (Choschen ha-Mischpat, 159, 1.)

"A Jew may rob a Gentile, that is, he may cheat him over a bill if unlikely to be detected." (Choschen ha-Mischpat, 348, 1.)

The following quotations from the Talmud appear in other reputable publications:

"You are human beings but the nations of the world are not human beings, but beasts." (Baba Mecia, 114, 6.)

"On the house of the Goy (non-Jew) one looks as on a fold of cattle." (Tosefta, Erubin, viii.)

"The estates of the Goy are like wilderness, who first settles in them has a right to them. (Baba Batra, 54 b.)

"The property of the Goys is like a thing without a master." (Schulchan Aruch: Choschen ha-Mischpat, 156, 5.)

"Who took an oath in the presence of the Goys, the robbers, and the custom-house officer, is not responsible." (Tosefta Szebnot, 11.)

"A human form is only given to those who are not Jews in order that the Jews may not be waited upon by beasts." (Schene-tuchoth-habberith.)

"If a Jew can deceive idolaters by making them think he is a follower of their cult, it is permitted to do." (Yore de'ah, 157, 2.),

"One should and must make false oath, when the Goys (non-Jews) ask if our books contain anything against them. Then we are bound to state on oath that there is nothing like that." (Szaalot-Utszabot. The Book of Jore d'a., 17.)

"Every Goy who studies Talmud, and every Jew who helps him in it, ought to die: (Sanhedrin, 59 a, Aboda Zara, 8-6, Szagiga, 13.)

"To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all the Jews…" (Book of Libbre David, 37.)

As has been already stated, there is much controversy as to how such passages as have been cited above are regarded by Jews to-day. The London "Free Press" of February, 1938, for instance, printed an extract from the "Jewish Chronicle" of January 3 last reporting the newly-installed president of the Council of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations in London as saying "his guide would always be the Schulcan Aruch." In Warren Weston's book, Father of Lies, it stated that Professor Cohen, as sworn expert before the Court at Marburg in April. 1888, testified that, "The religious Jew considers himself bound by the whole contents of the Talmud."

If you have the intellectual and moral courage to have read this far, then you finally know what we’re up against: the programming of an evil clique that has captured our collective mind. This undetected method of control guarantees that not only will you never achieve your dreams, but that you will lose your life for geopolitical reasons that you will never completely comprehend.

The ONLY chance to avoid this ignominious fate to understand the Jewish plan for the enslavement of the world and eradication of the unwanted population, and to stop it.

The hour is getting late ...
__________________

[lizzy]

So, Ian Fleming, the creator of James Bond, helped Hitler escape at the end of the war did he? :rolleyes:

Not according to this report.

Cremated Remains Of Adolf Hitler And Eva Braun Were Scattered Over Elbe (http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/death/FSS_release_211207.html)

THE Federal Security Service [former KGB - translator] has concluded one of the greatest mysteries of the Twentieth Century. To mark the 90th anniversary of the Service, nine new and formerly classified documents have been presented in the Central Museum of the Great Patriotic War, which revealed the ultimate fate of the charred remains of the Hitler's body.

You can read the rest by clicking here (http://www.fpp.co.uk/Hitler/death/FSS_release_211207.html)

For me where and when Hitler got trained can only be understood by those who actually took part in it and as we go back to 1912 there could easily be people still alive who know those facts but not all documantation has been released.
That he was groomed and facililited to power is obvious and we know by whom, the European jewish bankers / Rockerfellow, Thysson / Bush bankers who wanted war profits.
Did he know he was a pawn of the Rothchilde and was he of that blood line? Germany hated the fact that the Jews prolonged WW1 by bringing in the USA which lost Germany Alsace Larriane and impoverished them with reparations. It shocked germany at Verseilles in 1920 that the Balfour Act existed and jewish bankers had sold Germany out.

[hapax]

Fully agree, nickatnoon61, phantom.

All these people bad-mouthing Hitler ("illuminati stooge"..."gay prostitute"... "only had one ball") are themselves mind-controlled Zionist stooges.

By the way, how was he supposed to be a "gay prostitute" with "only one ball"? His "clients" might have noticed something..... The Diaries of Hitler's Doctor Theo Morell (http://www.fpp.co.uk/books/Morell/index.html) refutes this anyway.

Perhaps people would be better informed if they bothered to read some real history. (http://www.fpp.co.uk)

The main reason the Jews declared war on Hitler's Germany in 1933 (http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/jdecwar.html) was because Hitler desired to end dependence on Jewish usury capital and remove Germany from the international banking system. In the eyes of the bankers this was Hitler's only real crime (apart from his opposition to the Soviets). The 1923 German experience of total financial ruin caused by hyperinflation brought about by a private central bank (http://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/articles/hyperinflation-e.html) led to this entirely understandable and correct decision on the part of Hitler and his National Socialist government. The USA is going to experience something very similar as the dollar disintegrates over the coming years.

"And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly, it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people. And when I look on my people I see them work and work and toil and labor, and at the end of the week they have only for their wages wretchedness and misery. When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil, if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom today this poor people are plundered and exploited."
- Adolf Hitler, in a speech delivered at Munich, April 12, 1922.

Everyone also ignores the presence of the Soviet Union (created and funded and run by Jews) which was busy murdering millions of innocents and enslaving the population (in accordance with Talmudic principles). Nobody seems interested in calling the Soviets and the bankers who backed it "illuminati" - though that's what they were. Anthony Sutton's Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution (http://reformed-theology.org/html/books/bolshevik_revolution/) and Myron Fagan's The Illuminati and the Council of Foreign Relations (http://usa-the-republic.com/illuminati/fagan_index.html) show how New York Jewish financiers were responsible for the carnage.

As Solzhenitsyn put it:

"[The USSR] was a system that liquidated all the other parties. I ask you to get me right; it did not alone destroy the parties as such, it did not only dissolve the parties, but it liquidated their members. It was a system that introduced the genocide of the peasants: fifteen million peasants had been deported for liquidation. It was the system that introduced serfdom anew. It was the system that provoked an artificial famine in the Ukraine during peace time. Six million people died of hunger in the Ukraine at the border of Europe during the years 1932 and 1933. During the years 1918 and 1919 the Tcheka shot more than 1,000 people a month without legal procedure. At the climax of Stalin-terror, during the years 1937-1938, the number of people shot to death averages more than 40,000 a month. - and with this country, with this Soviet Union, the whole allied democratic world entered a war alliance in 1941."
- Alexander Solzhenitsyn, June, 30th, 1975.

...and then ask yourself why Solzhenitsyn's recent 2-volume work ("Together") on the Jews and the USSR has still not been translated into English. No US/UK publisher will touch the work of Russia's greatest living author, winner of the Nobel Prize for Literature. But they will happily publish any and all lies about Hitler, the Nazis and the Holohoax. (http://www.vho.org)

[lizzy]

They spit in our faces!




“This fictitious conflict between the Zionists and the liberal Jews soon disgusted me, for it was false through and through.”
— Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf




By John Kaminski
skylax@comcast.net



Do you share in the lie that you live in a free world and can say and do anything you want?

And do you believe in your government’s right to limit what you say in the interest of “national security’? It’s a difficult decision when you know your government is criminal.

There are certain things you cannot say, you know, or funny things happen to you. Not so funny, really. For saying the “wrong” thing, you can easily lose your livelihood or your life.

In the ancient streets of Jerusalem, fundamentalist Israeli Jews routinely spit on those with different beliefs. Especially favorite targets are visiting clergymen such as priests, preachers and imams who visit their Holy Land to venerate the history of their own holy books. And what do these pilgrims get for their effort? Jews spit in their faces.

See http://ww4report.com/node/1046

This is the message Jews have conveyed to humanity from time immemorial. This is what the Jews are saying to the world. In their newspapers. In their movies. In their school curricula. They spit in our faces. They pornographize our culture. They destroy our world.

Sick snobs stuck in the poison plastic of New York Times reality glower in a stupor of sanctimonious superiority while the illegal and immoral underpinnings of their predatory wealth disintegrate. Think about all those millions of people who have been unfairly murdered in the past few years. All of sudden, people are putting the words "9/11" and "Israel" together.

Who else could it have been? American leaders wouldn't kill their own people, would they? How much money would it take? And who has that kind of money? Maybe the people who invented and control money, eh? That would be the Jews.

The great hurdle the American people have yet to surpass is realizing that the mass murder of 3,000 people in New York City in 2001 was CLEARLY an inside job, covered over by intense media blather about terrorism with not a whiff of a story that these events were planned and executed by deep-cover intelligence agencies, using robotic Blackwater-type operatives.

No one in the so-called real world recognizes this reality officially. You don’t hear this on TV. No politician dares utter a word about it.

Yet they all know. I’m not saying they all knew it was going to happen, but I am saying some of them did. And I’m saying now that ALL of them (everyone in Congress) KNOWS that elements of the Bush White House, driven by its powerful Israeli presence, engineered the whole operation as a sadistic and tragic way to further unfairly defame Arabs, by painting them (and impersonating them) as the ultimate terrorists. It’s pretty clear who all these people are, and, by the way, they’re still in power. In fact, all of the current presidential candidates except (maybe) Ron Paul are in on the scam.

Which speaks volumes about the condition, the receptivity, the powers of perception, and the conscience of the American people. These faculties must be severely impaired to have attained this level of mechanical barbarity being imposed on all these bogus pretenses throughout the world.

Have you pondered the plight of our soldiers lately? The diseases they come home with, you realize, are made in the states by Jewish scientists (remember Oppenheimer?) for the purpose of destroying the lives of every living thing these weapons touch.

Yet you sallie on. Some of you think the presence of Neturei Karta, those bearded Jews who claim to be against Israel, demonstrates that the Jewish community is diverse in opinion and objective. I submit that it is not — that it is hellbent on subjugating the entire race of humans into what they call "goyim," who are livestock puppets in this theater of the absurd that they have commandeered.

This is the only accurate template that adequately describes what is happening to our world.

Death is their product, and hate is their engine. Self-hating Jews are programmed to kill. By their beloved holy book, The Talmud, and their greatest philosopher, Maimonides.

To kill us.

Because they hate themselves.

Which is why they go around spitting on people.

And why they must, according to their programming, destroy the world.

To try to convey to you the danger to our future, I must overcome several obstacles.

First is your conditioning, your "holocaust programming." Remember that nowhere in the memoirs of Churchill, DeGaulle and Eisenhower, the three Western leaders in World War II, is there any mention of a Jewish holocaust or Germans gassing anybody. The Holocaust programming came during the 1960s with the JFK assassination, after which aid to Israel skyrocketed. Writer Elie Wiesel's book "Night" later won him the Nobel Prize, despite proof that his work was hysterical fiction. Making soap from the skin of Jews. Indeed. Or the Auschwitz gas chamber that was built two years after the war ended.

Jews don't believe in freedom of speech. They prove it every day with their Holocaust laws, which prohibit discussion of a certain topic because it is “offensive” to them. And because it is a lie. The very fact they have to make laws preventing discussion of this topic AUTOMATICALLY means it IS a lie.

The second part is tougher to comprehend. Every particle of information you have ingested throughout your lifetime has been transmitted to you through Jewish censors — writers, publishers, distributors, policymakers — that has shaped you in its image.

This means that you are partly screened from seeing certain subjects. Money and religion are two of these.

But more importantly, we all grew up believing in an American dream. It was the basis of our society, if I remember correctly from my childhood. We believed in honesty, and thrift. We were disciplined, creative, and respectful. We wanted the best for everyone. This was the American way.

But it's not now. And you can guess — in fact, in your gut, you know — why this has happened.

Our decency has been terribly eroded, and we no longer believe in the future, at least not in the way we used to.

Why it has happened is full spectrum Jewish influence through ...

• Psychiatry, which remains technically a science that doesn't exist, turned us all into neurotic drug addicts, and literally afraid of our own shadows.

• Education, the redaction of all ancient literature through Jewish publishers. Foremost is the Scofield Bible, which trains evangelicals for obedience to Israel in an armageddon programmed to occur.

• Commerce, the distribution networks for virtually all products are all Jewish. The CEOs of most production companies are Jewish. The medical and legal establishments are Jewish. And the result, as in both medicine and the law, is the production for profit of products that are poisonous, ultimately meant to harm people.

• Finance, the Federal Reserve has skimmed half the profits from the American workforce for the last CENTURY! It was a Jewish invention, just like the two World Wars, just like the constant wars happening now.

• Media: Beloved songwriter Irving Berlin was sued for monopolizing American music in 1927, and what we have had are completely Jewish music and movies ever since. Didn't you love Milton Berle? But what was he really telling you? That you’re a buffoon, with no power over anything.

• Politics: Aid to Israel skyrocketed after the Kennedy assassination, and Vietnam lingered on. The Holocaust legend was invented and publicized. Drugs were practically legalized. And then, through TV, the great dumbing down began in earnest. But this game is almost 150 years old, and the Jewish consolidation of our false reality is practically complete.

Are you the adults your parents hoped you would be?

Well, maybe. But one thing's sure. This isn't the world they hoped you would live in.

The words of Eustace Mullins forever ring in my ears. "You will not achieve your dreams because of the presence of the Jew."

And this is what has happened to America 2007.

I suggest the following course of action for gentiles who take exception to the ruination of our beautiful world by a parasitic culture that roams the world subverting honest people with alluring corruption. This is the way the world has always worked, and the only way to hold the line against it is by honest assessment of the chains that bind us to the whim of the superrich, who have created their money out of nothing, and other criminal schemes.

But more than anything else, we need to treat Jews exactly as they treat us.

For starters, let's spit on them. They spit on us, we spit back. Will they use their 500 nuclear weapons? Maybe, maybe not. Jews always get others to do their fighting for them, then they pick up the pieces and conduct mass exterminations later, like they did in Russia, 60 million Christians liquidated in the Gulags, remember? This was a wholly Jewish enterprise, remember? And they controlled Roosevelt, so America approved of all of this, remember?

No, you doubtless don't. Why? Because you have been raised on Jewish history, from CBS to Dr. Spock, from Charlie Chaplin to Michael Eisner. Jewish history doesn’t mention the Armenian genocide (done by Jews), or the great Ukrainian starvation (done by Jews). Nor does official Jewish history ever mention that the initial financing of Adolf Hitler was done by Jews to create a great sacrifice of their own people to prove to the world, as recommended by Zionism inventor Theodore Herzl, that the Jews needed Israel to escape from anti-Semitism.

The world is beginning to finally realize that anti-Semitism is generated by the Jews themselves as a way to conceal their widespread social crimes.

So, let's enforce the very laws by which Jews afflict the Amalek (the rest of the people in the world) and put these insane laws back on the heads of the Jews, where they belong.

For instance,

• Many Palestinian babies die in childbirth while waiting for needless hours in barbed wire enclosures for sadistic Israeli guards to "process their papers" so the mothers can go to a hospital to deliver. So, let's make all Jewish mothers in the U.S. about to give birth wait on a grimy New York City street for 16 hours surrounded by NYPD barbed wire, and let her watch her baby die of neglect while her guards snicker in derision at her tragedy and mutter "one less cockroach to feed".

• Make all Jewish parents in U.S. send their children to spend a month on the streets of Baghdad dressed as a typical Iraqi and see close up what Mossad-trained, U.S.-sponsored Blackwater mercenaries would do to them. It wouldn't even record their names as your children were used as target practice by these Washington-approved sociopaths (which are about to be deployed in the United States). Speculate on what official, Rumsfeld-created U.S. policy toward your young and beautiful daughters would be, and whether the pervs in the White House would get to watch the video later.

• Make all Israeli children under the age of 10 walk through the hills of Lebanon where the Israeli army dropped millions of unexploded cluster bombs for future Lebanese children to discover sometime in the future.

• Make it a capital offense if any Jew defames any other religion, just like the new court in Israel which with U.S. help snatches dissidents from around the world and tortures them before execution.

No law can ever be just if it does not apply to everyone equally. Therefore, all the Holocaust laws are unjust and undefendable because they have been created for the benefit of one group, the group that has pulled the wool over our eyes for centuries, and now is the central obstacle to our healthy evolution.

The goal of all future banking systems must be to criminalize usury. Half the profit of all humanity's labor is sucked out of the real people's economy by psychic vampires who convince us that to kill is to love, and to love is usually an unprofitable venture.

And that's precisely why the world is going down the tubes.

Then ask yourself this question.

Why is it that the only thing Jews are really afraid of is the truth?



John Kaminski is a writer who lives on the Gulf Coast of Florida whose Internet essays have been seen on hundreds of websites around the world. Stay tuned for http://johnkaminski.org/



Postscript: Ever wonder why the Talmud isn’t a best selling book like the Bible? My friend Virginia, who has proven herself in many Internet debates to be an implacable friend of the Jews, nevertheless produced this account of a trial over the truth of the Talmud. She wrote:

It has been frequently alleged on the Jewish side that translations of the disputed passages made by Gentiles are inaccurate and misleading. However, there are numbers of cases in which the matter has been tested in the law courts and the translations upheld as exactly conveying the meaning of the original text.

One of the most notable of these cases was heard in Hungary. Dr. Alfred Luzsensky in 1910 translated about 400 passages from the Talmud into Hungarian; In 1923 Luzsensky was charged in a Government prosecution with 'pornography" and "corruption of public morals" by circulation of his work, which was ordered to be confiscated. Luzensky, however, was acquitted by the Courts and the confiscation suspended. According to Warren Weston's book Father of Lies (Militant Christian Patriots, London, 1938), the Hungarian Court in the course of its judgment said:

The horrors contained in the translation of Alfred Luzensky are without exception found in the Talmud. His translation is accurate, for it renders these passages which are really in the text of the Talmud, in their exact meaning.

The testimony of the court expert, Dr. Kmosko, is also of interest. According to Erfurt "World Service" of June 1, 1937, he said: "

To the first question asked by the court as to whether Luzensky's translation corresponds to the original Talmud, I must answer with definite 'Yes'. The underlying principle of the Gemara is that the non-Jews are not human beings, but beasts.'

In 1932 Dr. Luzsensky published a German translation of his book, and in Warren Weston's book referred to above appear a number of passages from the Talmud which he states are taken from this German translation of Luzsensky. The texts are in agreement with what has appeared in many other publications. The following are typical specimens:

"The Jew is to say on Purim Day: ... cursed be all non-Jews, blessed be all Jews." (Orach Chaim, 660, 16).

"Theft, robbery and rape of a beautiful woman and similar deeds are forbidden to every Gentile toward another Gentile and also toward a Jew. But they are allowed to a Jew against a non-Jew." (Sanhedrin, 57 a; also Abodah Zara, 13b).

"A heretic Gentile you may kill outright with your own hands." (Aboda Zara 4b).

"Those who do not own the Torah must all be killed. Whoever has power to kill them openly with the sword, if not let him use artifices until they are all done away with." (Choschen ha-Mischpat, 425, 5).

"If a Jew has a suit with a non-Jew, you (Jewish judge) will take the Jew's side as far as possible, and you will say to the non-Jew: Thus it is according to your law. If neither of these alternatives is possible, then you must cheat." (Bab Kama, 113a.

"It is allowed to cheat a Gentile and take usury from him". (Baba Mezia, 61 a.)

"God has commanded us to take usury from the Gentile and lend him only when he consents to repay with usury, in order that we do not create profit for him, even if there accrued no profit to us." (Sepher Mizwoth, 73 a)

"A thing lost by a Gentile may not only be kept by the man who found it, but it is even forbidden to give it back to him." (Choschen ha-Mischpat, 159, 1.)

"A Jew may rob a Gentile, that is, he may cheat him over a bill if unlikely to be detected." (Choschen ha-Mischpat, 348, 1.)

The following quotations from the Talmud appear in other reputable publications:

"You are human beings but the nations of the world are not human beings, but beasts." (Baba Mecia, 114, 6.)

"On the house of the Goy (non-Jew) one looks as on a fold of cattle." (Tosefta, Erubin, viii.)

"The estates of the Goy are like wilderness, who first settles in them has a right to them. (Baba Batra, 54 b.)

"The property of the Goys is like a thing without a master." (Schulchan Aruch: Choschen ha-Mischpat, 156, 5.)

"Who took an oath in the presence of the Goys, the robbers, and the custom-house officer, is not responsible." (Tosefta Szebnot, 11.)

"A human form is only given to those who are not Jews in order that the Jews may not be waited upon by beasts." (Schene-tuchoth-habberith.)

"If a Jew can deceive idolaters by making them think he is a follower of their cult, it is permitted to do." (Yore de'ah, 157, 2.),

"One should and must make false oath, when the Goys (non-Jews) ask if our books contain anything against them. Then we are bound to state on oath that there is nothing like that." (Szaalot-Utszabot. The Book of Jore d'a., 17.)

"Every Goy who studies Talmud, and every Jew who helps him in it, ought to die: (Sanhedrin, 59 a, Aboda Zara, 8-6, Szagiga, 13.)

"To communicate anything to a Goy about our religious relations would be equal to the killing of all the Jews…" (Book of Libbre David, 37.)

As has been already stated, there is much controversy as to how such passages as have been cited above are regarded by Jews to-day. The London "Free Press" of February, 1938, for instance, printed an extract from the "Jewish Chronicle" of January 3 last reporting the newly-installed president of the Council of Orthodox Hebrew Congregations in London as saying "his guide would always be the Schulcan Aruch." In Warren Weston's book, Father of Lies, it stated that Professor Cohen, as sworn expert before the Court at Marburg in April. 1888, testified that, "The religious Jew considers himself bound by the whole contents of the Talmud."

If you have the intellectual and moral courage to have read this far, then you finally know what we’re up against: the programming of an evil clique that has captured our collective mind. This undetected method of control guarantees that not only will you never achieve your dreams, but that you will lose your life for geopolitical reasons that you will never completely comprehend.

The ONLY chance to avoid this ignominious fate to understand the Jewish plan for the enslavement of the world and eradication of the unwanted population, and to stop it.

The hour is getting late ...
__________________

hi nick.
The Borg is has us in their grip.
You guys are the knowledgeable ones here.
I have no specific understanding of Hitler but I do get that we are under a jewish / neo con agenda

[phantom]

Hi hapax

Thanks for posting the link to The Secret Diaries of Hitler's Doctor. What a coincidence, I just finished reading it yesterday on Irvings site and was going to add it here and recommend it to all here who believe Hitler was gay, had one ball or was a psycho.

[dogsmilk]

In the hilarious rant posted by Nickatnoon - which is so bonkers I can only assume they posted it for a laugh - one of the bizarre statements is

Why it has happened is full spectrum Jewish influence through ...

• Psychiatry, which remains technically a science that doesn't exist, turned us all into neurotic drug addicts, and literally afraid of our own shadows.



Can anyone explain to me in what way Jews have been central to the evolution of modern psychiatry?
Remember kids, Freud was influential on psychology not psychiatry.

[seanx]

Can anyone explain to me in what way Jews have been central to the evolution of modern psychiatry?
Remember kids, Freud was influential on psychology not psychiatry.

You don't honestly think little discrepancies like that would bother Mr Nickatoon.

I've just read in another post that he believes Israel - which has,
I believe a similar population to Ireland (7- 8 million) is on the verge
on world domination.

They soon intend nuking the middle east - then Europe - and finally
the good old US of A with their 5 bombs.

I don't think the poor jewish people in all these countries are
going to be too happy about it - being nuked.....but there you go.

Anything for world domination.....or whatever will be left of it....
a few smouldering buildings, maybe.

I wonder how Mr. Nick been watching too many James Bond films
over the Christmas.........when he's not out burning crosses

[nickatnoon61]

In the hilarious rant posted by Nickatnoon - which is so bonkers I can only assume they posted it for a laugh - one of the bizarre statements is



Can anyone explain to me in what way Jews have been central to the evolution of modern psychiatry?
Remember kids, Freud was influential on psychology not psychiatry. Yes, it's easy!!! Just Google key words Jew and psychiatry!!!!
Look at anything obscene and despicable, and you will find Jew behind it!!! Anyone who does a minimal amount of research will see this. I have been researching around 10 years! You are an obvious useful idiot(Shaboz Goy) DM, or are you a JEW??????? Whatever you are, you are becoming more transparent, the more you post!

[paganus]

Yes, it's easy!!! Just Google key words Jew and psychiatry!!!!
Look at anything obscene and despicable, and you will find Jew behind it!!! Anyone who does a minimal amount of research will see this. I have been researching around 10 years! You are an obvious useful idiot(Shaboz Goy) DM, or are you a JEW??????? Whatever you are, you are becoming more transparent, the more you post!and we're just the whipping goys for their zog! :mad:

[dogsmilk]

Pathetic.

[nickatnoon61]

Pathetic. Yes he is,thanx Bow Wow!!!! :D

[nickatnoon61]

Everything the Jews have done in the West Bank since 1967 has been a
> > violation of the Geneva Conventions. The US is protecting Israel. If the
> EU
> > stepped in the US would threaten to nuke Europe for Israel. It doesn't
> get
> > any worse than this. America and Israel are seen abroad as the true
> Axis of
> > Evil.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:46 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Peter tells us about Jew Settlements
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Kirsch" <syzygy12@new.co.za>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: Did you know that by law the US guarantees israel's oil
> > supply - no matter what
> >
> >
> > > Chuck,
> > >
> > > I've spent many years in the middle east on both sides of The Wall.
> > > What the jews are doing is criminal. Every settlement that they build
> is
> > > basically a kind of "fortress" against any Palestinians who might
> > object.
> > > I've travelled a lot through the West Bank and Gaza - it is a
> national
> > and
> > > human tragedy.
> > > The jews are engaged in ethnic cleansing and after cleansing, they
> steal
> > > land belonging for generations to Palestinians.
> > > Peter Kirsch
> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chuck Brucks"
> > > To: "Peter Kirsch"
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:22 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Did you know that by law the US guarantees israel's oil
> > > supply - no matter what
> > >
> > >
> > >> Peter ... Do you approve of the Jews building settlements on
> > Palestimian
> > >> land? Chuck
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Peter Kirsch" <syzygy12@new.co.za>
> > >> To: "Chuck Brucks" <brucksc@bellsouth.net>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:40 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: Did you know that by law the US guarantees israel's
> oil
> > >> supply - no matter what
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Yes - i follow middle east politics very closely and lived in
> > various
> > >> parts
> > >> > of the area (both Palestinian nd jewish) for nearly ten years.
> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > From: "Chuck Brucks" <brucksc@bellsouth.net>
> > >> > To: "Chuck Brucks" <brucksc@bellsouth.net>
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:40 AM
> > >> > Subject: Did you know that by law the US guarantees israel's oil
> > >> supply - no
> > >> > matter what
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >> > From: "Al Perez"
> > >> >> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:55 PM
> > >> >> > Subject: Did you know that by law the US guarantees israel's
> > oil
> > >> >> supply -
> > >> >> > no matter what
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/4504
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >

[paganus]

Everything the Jews have done in the West Bank since 1967 has been a
> > violation of the Geneva Conventions. The US is protecting Israel. If the
> EU
> > stepped in the US would threaten to nuke Europe for Israel. It doesn't
> get
> > any worse than this. America and Israel are seen abroad as the true
> Axis of
> > Evil.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 4:46 PM
> > To:
> > Subject: Peter tells us about Jew Settlements
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Peter Kirsch" <syzygy12@new.co.za>
> > To:
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: Did you know that by law the US guarantees israel's oil
> > supply - no matter what
> >
> >
> > > Chuck,
> > >
> > > I've spent many years in the middle east on both sides of The Wall.
> > > What the jews are doing is criminal. Every settlement that they build
> is
> > > basically a kind of "fortress" against any Palestinians who might
> > object.
> > > I've travelled a lot through the West Bank and Gaza - it is a
> national
> > and
> > > human tragedy.
> > > The jews are engaged in ethnic cleansing and after cleansing, they
> steal
> > > land belonging for generations to Palestinians.
> > > Peter Kirsch
> > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Chuck Brucks"
> > > To: "Peter Kirsch"
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 09, 2008 5:22 AM
> > > Subject: Re: Did you know that by law the US guarantees israel's oil
> > > supply - no matter what
> > >
> > >
> > >> Peter ... Do you approve of the Jews building settlements on
> > Palestimian
> > >> land? Chuck
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> From: "Peter Kirsch" <syzygy12@new.co.za>
> > >> To: "Chuck Brucks" <brucksc@bellsouth.net>
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 3:40 AM
> > >> Subject: Re: Did you know that by law the US guarantees israel's
> oil
> > >> supply - no matter what
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> > Yes - i follow middle east politics very closely and lived in
> > various
> > >> parts
> > >> > of the area (both Palestinian nd jewish) for nearly ten years.
> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > > >> > From: "Chuck Brucks" <brucksc@bellsouth.net>
> > >> > To: "Chuck Brucks" <brucksc@bellsouth.net>
> > >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 1:40 AM
> > >> > Subject: Did you know that by law the US guarantees israel's oil
> > >> supply - no
> > >> > matter what
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > > >> >> > From: "Al Perez"
> > >> >> > Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 5:55 PM
> > >> >> > Subject: Did you know that by law the US guarantees israel's
> > oil
> > >> >> supply -
> > >> >> > no matter what
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/4504
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >nick,is it true that israel manufactures no weapons of its own?ive heard they get them for free from u.s.a and uk.you may know the answer if anyone does!

[dogsmilk]

Just a couple of questions, Nick;
Why do you predominantly rely on just copying and pasting text from different websites to make your posts? Is this an indicator you have difficulty forming coherent arguments for yourself?
Why do you frequently paste the same articles into more than one thread, often with the article having no relevance to the actual topic of the thread? Do you struggle with understanding how different threads are about different topics? Are you just hoping you'll get lucky and post something that looks relevant?
Why do you hate Jewish people so much? Does it help compensate for your own inadequacies to have a fantasy scapegoat to make you feel better about yourself and blame your problems on?
Just curious.

[nickatnoon61]

Just a couple of questions, Nick;
Why do you predominantly rely on just copying and pasting text from different websites to make your posts? Is this an indicator you have difficulty forming coherent arguments for yourself?
Why do you frequently paste the same articles into more than one thread, often with the article having no relevance to the actual topic of the thread? Do you struggle with understanding how different threads are about different topics? Are you just hoping you'll get lucky and post something that looks relevant?
Why do you hate Jewish people so much? Does it help compensate for your own inadequacies to have a fantasy scapegoat to make you feel better about yourself and blame your problems on?
Just curious.To start with I DON'T HATE ANYONE. I feel this is a very important issue as the Jews seem to be involved in so many conspiracies. I post relevant material on any thread that has to do with jews,Zionists, Hitler, WWII, Hollowcaust,Satanism,etc. because they are involved in ALL of these. So tell me, BOW WOW, which Jews are the benevolent ones?The banksters, the ones in Israel murdering children every day?the Talmud/Torah worshippers, which call the Goy less than animals, the Hollywood queers, and sexual degenerate jews, the Hollywood Moguls Jews who breeded with the starlets, to have offspring who were not totally repugnant physically? The media owners, who lie to us 24/7? The pornographers, including hefner?The farmers...oops, I forgot the Jews don't grow things, because that is too productive,beneficial, and requires actual work/labor! But to make up for that they produced every "hick" sitcom in the 60s and 70s that made rural people/farmers out to be morons! The list is LONGER, but for brevity's sake, do you get the drift here?! Also,The dollar is their GOD!! IF THE TRUTH ABOUT A CERTAIN GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, THAT HAPPENS TO BE TRUE, OFFENDS YOU, WHAT IS YOUR AGENDA? R U blind,deaf, and stupid(useful idiot)? R U ADL? R U a JEW? It has to be one of these 3! R there any other options? You have obviously been scanning my posts. Why not mention all the great posts I have contributed about health? I even offered many times a website owned by a Jew. it is called The Tree Of Life, and this guy(Jew) is doing great work! I have Jewish friends against what Israel is doing, and against the NWO! The ADL calls them "self-haters" if you can imagine!!!! So now tell me why you defend these vermin/degenerates???? if they were irish, german,spanish, or whatever, that are and have always committed these atrocities against man-kind, I would expose them also! I don't reall expect a reasonable answer from you, but surprise me!!! :eek:

[dogsmilk]

To start with I DON'T HATE ANYONE. I feel this is a very important issue as the Jews seem to be involved in so many conspiracies. I post relevant material on any thread that has to do with jews,Zionists, Hitler, WWII, Hollowcaust,Satanism,etc. because they are involved in ALL of these. So tell me, BOW WOW, which Jews are the benevolent ones?The banksters, the ones in Israel murdering children every day?the Talmud/Torah worshippers, which call the Goy less than animals, the Hollywood queers, and sexual degenerate jews, the Hollywood Moguls Jews who breeded with the starlets, to have offspring who were not totally repugnant physically? The media owners, who lie to us 24/7? The pornographers, including hefner?The farmers...oops, I forgot the Jews don't grow things, because that is too productive,beneficial, and requires actual work/labor! But to make up for that they produced every "hick" sitcom in the 60s and 70s that made rural people/farmers out to be morons! The list is LONGER, but for brevity's sake, do you get the drift here?! Also,The dollar is their GOD!! IF THE TRUTH ABOUT A CERTAIN GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, THAT HAPPENS TO BE TRUE, OFFENDS YOU, WHAT IS YOUR AGENDA? R U blind,deaf, and stupid(useful idiot)? R U ADL? R U a JEW? It has to be one of these 3! R there any other options? You have obviously been scanning my posts. Why not mention all the great posts I have contributed about health? I even offered many times a website owned by a Jew. it is called The Tree Of Life, and this guy(Jew) is doing great work! I have Jewish friends against what Israel is doing, and against the NWO! The ADL calls them "self-haters" if you can imagine!!!! So now tell me why you defend these vermin/degenerates???? if they were irish, german,spanish, or whatever, that are and have always committed these atrocities against man-kind, I would expose them also! I don't reall expect a reasonable answer from you, but surprise me!!! :eek:

For a start, I haven't been "scanning your posts" - I have simply been unable to avoid noticing such phenomenon as you e.g. posting an article on the "Judea declares war on Germany thread" which had no relevance to that video and without any accompanying explanation, then randomly posting a similarly irrelevant article you also post on this thread. If you claim this is because Jews are involved in a 'wide range of conspiracies', this really doesn't explain such inconsequential behaviour - it's basically like saying because you think the illuminati are involved in everything, you may as well dispense with having different forum headings and thread titles and just post anything anywhere. You seem to be thinking - "this thread mentions Jews...I'll post anything that mentions Jews." Nice strategy, sparky.
Though I admit I have read quite a few of your posts for the entertainment value.

You claim you have nothing against Jews, then immediately launch into making a number of sweeping allegations against Jews some of which are totally bizarre - "the Hollywood moguls Jews who breeded with the starlets, to have offspring who were not totally repugnant physically?" sounds like you're suggesting Jews are physically repugnant unless they breed with starlets which, if my interpretation of this rather inarticulate ranting is correct, is simply deranged racist frothing.

You refer to "Hollywood queers"; why am I not surprised you're homophobic. Another irrational prejudice for the collection.

Personally I have no particular problem with pornography par se - I find no big deal in footage of people copulating in and of itself.

I myself would be deeply critical of the Israeli regime, but I don't blame "the Jews" for their actions, just as I don't blame "the Muslims" for the horrific track record of the state of Indonesia. I also don't like the ADL - they frequently make ridiculous allegations and behave at times like thugs. It's nice to hear you like some Jews. Did your Jewish friends enjoy that post you made about "Jewpsies"? But-but-I don't hate all Jews...I just blame everything on Jews in general...one or two are ok...
A bit like "Some of my friends are Black..."

I've never studied the Talmud. I have never studied the Koran either. I have seen people cite passages from the Koran and Hadith to 'demonstrate' Islam is an evil, warlike ideology that regards 'infidels' as inferiors to be conquered though. Do you think I should believe it?

You see, you say "which of these Jews are the benevolent ones" - well personally I judge individuals according to their words and deeds without invoking some nonsensical generalisation according to ethnicity or religion. Some Jews I deeply respect, some I despise - the fact that they are Jews has no bearing whatsoever on how I reach this conclusion. Your primitive pack instinct that inspires you to make sweeping generalisations is understandable insofar as it's a strong component of our primate ancestry - chimpanzees show hostility towards other social groups, particularly if they perceive they are on the territory they have claimed by marking out the borders with shit. I realise you may still be grappling with the wonders of having opposable thumbs, but it might be still more fulfilling to drag your mindset up the evolutionary ladder.
This would help avoid making totally ludicrous statements like"the Jews don't grow things, because that is too productive, beneficial, and requires actual work/labour!" Ok, I realise you may be totally ignorant of the key position held by farming in the development of Israel for one, but even performing the incredibly simple act (you don't even need to have mastered your thumbs) of putting Jews+farming into google pulls up numerous interesting links. E.g.:
http://www.kshs.org/features/feat1201.htm
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/12/jewish_farm_sch.php
http://www.vcn.bc.ca/outlook/library/articles/CdnJewishExperience/p05FarmColonies.htm
Indeed, Jews have a long history of being involved in farming.
Does the word "Kibbutz" mean anything to you...?
I can almost picture the light flashing and message urgently repeating "Error! Error! Invalid entry! Does not compute! Blame Jooos!" careering around your brain as you read that.
Being English, I can't speak of your 60s and 70s "hick" sitcoms as I can only think of one I remember, though you may wish to consider the effects of class as being more plausible than the machinations of a religious group - though I'd guess you'd also blame English stereotypes regarding yokels and country bumpkins on "the Jews".

You say "the dollar is their God" - does the word "capitalism" mean anything to you? I realise you probably like to simultaneously blame da jooos for both capitalism and communism because of some stuff you read on teh interwebs , but look around you and see how many distinctly non Jews worship the dollar, pound, yen, euro or whatever quite passionately.

The media is a vast, complex institution which is far more preoccupied with market share, keeping advertisers happy, making money, saving money by just parroting what politicians said today rather than doing proper investigative journalism, and not making other corporate arms of the vast multinational corporation it's usually part of look bad than anything else - telling the truth is low on the agenda, but that's not because of Judaism. Again though, it's that strange dynamic where people are sceptical of the MSM, but believe any old Nazi crap just because it's 'alternative' media. Never ceases to amaze me - didn't your mummy ever tell you not to believe everything you read on the internet?

Look, if you like simplistic explanations you can grasp that wrap all your problems and gripes into a neat little jooo shaped box and that keeps you happy, then that's cool.

I'm not Jewish by the way, not ADL (why do people always assume if you challenge people attacking a particular group, you must be in that group?). and am in full command of all five senses. Whether I'm stupid is for others to judge, though pardon me if I wouldn't rate your judgement too highly. Indeed, I didn't even think about Jews until I encountered a bunch of brainwashed drones careering around the internet shouting "Help! help! The Jews are coming!" on the basis of a bunch of 1930s propaganda that's as unconvincing now as it was then. Do you look under your bed at night to see if Jews are hiding there?

[nickatnoon61]

You claim you have nothing against Jews,

You refer to "Hollywood queers"; why am I not surprised you're homophobic. Another irrational prejudice for the collection.

You claim you have nothing against Jews,



You claim you have nothing against Jews,

NO I SAID, I DON'T HATE ANYONE. CAN YOU NOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE HERE,BOW WOW???? THIS IS HOW THE LIARS TWIST! ANYTHING AFTER THAT LIE/TWIST IS INCONSEQUENTIAL TO ME. YOU MAY THINK YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR GOOD, BUT YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER USEFUL IDIOT FOR THE ZIONIST JEWS AND THE REST OF THE CONTROLLERS.
You refer to "Hollywood queers"; why am I not surprised you're homophobic. Another irrational prejudice for the collection. THIS STATEMENT BY YOU SAYS IT ALL IMO! ANOTHER BLEEDING HEART,PORN-WATCHING, LIBERAL WHO JUST ACCEPTS THINGS AS THEY ARE, WHILE MOST ARE HAVING THEIR LIFE-BLOOD SUCKED FROM THEM DAILY, BY THE ZIONIST JEWS! YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND OR SEE YOUR LIFELONG PROGRAMMING, AND PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO CAN, SCARES YOU! LIKE I SAID BEFORE, YOU ARE EITHER A JEW, OR ADL,A WELL-MEANING SHABBOZ GOY, OR A JUST ANOTHER PROGRAMMED DUMMY! IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE NOT READ ANY OF ICKE'S BOOKS,EITHER.

[seanx]

Nicatoon's ranting:
To start with I DON'T HATE ANYONE. I feel this is a very important issue as the Jews seem to be involved in so many conspiracies. I post relevant material on any thread that has to do with jews,Zionists, Hitler, WWII, Hollowcaust,Satanism,etc. because they are involved in ALL of these. So tell me, BOW WOW, which Jews are the benevolent ones?The banksters, the ones in Israel murdering children every day?the Talmud/Torah worshippers, which call the Goy less than animals, the Hollywood queers, and sexual degenerate jews, the Hollywood Moguls Jews who breeded with the starlets, to have offspring who were not totally repugnant physically? The media owners, who lie to us 24/7? The pornographers, including hefner?The farmers...oops, I forgot the Jews don't grow things, because that is too productive,beneficial, and requires actual work/labor! But to make up for that they produced every "hick" sitcom in the 60s and 70s that made rural people/farmers out to be morons! The list is LONGER, but for brevity's sake, do you get the drift here?! Also,The dollar is their GOD!! IF THE TRUTH ABOUT A CERTAIN GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS, THAT HAPPENS TO BE TRUE, OFFENDS YOU, WHAT IS YOUR AGENDA? R U blind,deaf, and stupid(useful idiot)? R U ADL? R U a JEW? It has to be one of these 3! R there any other options?


Struck in an airport, right now - reading this mind-boggling, hate
rantings by Nicatoon.

2 weeks ago, I finally left this forum - after a post I wrote
responding to racist stuff similiar to this was DELETED.

And, YET I sit here, waiting for a plane, reading THIS hate mail
on the Dave Icke forum --- and IT ALL SEEMS PERFECTLY OK.

This crap seems to be allowed.

I have to admit I find it mind-boggling.

And that's why I have to make this final post.

Something is wrong somewhere.

It really is.

And by the way, another great post, dogsmilk.

Good luck

[paganus]

Nicatoon's ranting:



Struck in an airport, right now - reading this mind-boggling, hate
rantings by Nicatoon.

2 weeks ago, I finally left this forum - after a post I wrote
responding to racist stuff similiar to this was DELETED.

And, YET I sit here, waiting for a plane, reading THIS hate mail
on the Dave Icke forum --- and IT ALL SEEMS PERFECTLY OK.

This crap seems to be allowed.

I have to admit I find it mind-boggling.

And that's why I have to make this final post.

Something is wrong somewhere.

It really is.

And by the way, another great post, dogsmilk.

Good luckyou appear to have misunderstood the word 'final' :D

[lizzy]

Illuminati Bankers Hired Hitler to Start WW2
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
March 2, 2007


By Henry Makow Ph.D

The ink wasn't dry on the Versailles Peace Treaty before the Illuminati started work on World War Two by building Adolf Hitler and the Nazi Party.

Before 1919, Hitler had been a political "gun for hire" who had many Jewish friends and had flirted with both Communism and Socialism. Overnight he became a virulent anti-Communist and anti-Semite. What happened? He had become an army intelligence officer. Throughout the 1920's the Reichswehr secretly funded his party and trained his SA "Brownshirts."

I suspect General Kurt Von Schleicher was the point man for Illuminati bankers like Max Warburg, whose Frankfurt I.G. Farben HQ was spared by Allied bombers, and whose Jewish mother lived in comfort in Hamburg throughout the war.

In the Protocols of Zion, the author, an Illuminati banker, boasts they create or sanction anti-Semitism when it serves their purpose. "Anti-Semitism is indispensible to us for the management of our lesser brethren...this matter has been the subject of repeated discussions amongst us." (Protocol 9). Hitler is an example of how anti-Semitism was created. The author continues:

"It is from us that the all engulfing terror proceeds. We have in our service persons of all opinions, of all doctrines, monarchists, demagogues, socialists, communists and utopian dreamers of every kind...striving to overthrow all established forms of order. All states are in torture... but we will not give them peace until they openly acknowledge our international Super government..."

There, in black and white, is the blueprint behind the NWO, UN, the EU and NAU, and every war until today. But the bankers have made us think it "racist" to pay heed. As if more than 1% of Jews were/are a conscious part of their heinous, diabolical conspiracy.

Modern history consists of this long-term plan to foment needless wars in order to enslave mankind by destroying nation, religion, race and family. Most historians are paid to obscure the horrible fact that the people ultimately responsible for Auschwitz, the Gulag, Hiroshima and Verdun, still run the world. They are responsible for 9-11 and Iraq.

Our leaders are chosen by their ability to lie and follow orders. Conflicts are charades between "antagonists" who actually serve the same masters.

(For newcomers, the Illuminati consist of selected members of dynastic Jewish central banking families intermarried with Euro-American aristocracy, along with Jesuits, who have reached the highest degrees of Kabalistic Freemasonry.)


VERSAILLES

Dr. E. J. Dillon of the London Daily Telegraph wrote in his book "The Inside Story of the Peace Conference," (1920): Many delegates deduced that "henceforth the world will be governed by the Anglo-Saxon people, who in turn are swayed by their Jewish elements..." (i.e. the central bankers and their factotums) p 497.

Germany was the major obstacle to using England and the U.S. to impose Illuminati rule upon the world . Thus, onerous reparations were imposed to prompt another much more devastating world war. Once it begin, the British vetoed attempts to assassinate or replace Hitler, and insisted on "unconditional surrender."

Hitler didn’t come to power until 1933 but Germany started rearming in 1919 in contravention of Versailles provisions. The Allies turned a blind eye to a program that saw Communist and German soldiers train in Russia with the latest weaponry, including whole bases devoted to air force, armor and chemical warfare. When Hitler came to power in 1933, Germany already had an advanced air force.

Another way to evade Versailles was for the Reichswehr to fund and train paramilitary organizations like the Nazi SA which later could be incorporated into the regular army.
General Kurt Von Schleicher and Captains Karl Mayr and Ernst Roehm were in charge of this "Black Werhmacht" program.

Sefton Delmer, who was the Daily Express correspondent in Berlin, describes all this in his autobiography "Trail Sinister" (1961). He cites documents showing that Hitler was "acting under Mayr's orders when he joined the tiny German Workers Party and began to build it up..." (64) Delmer says Mayr also funded mass meetings and pamphlets in which Hitler railed against the Jews. "This anti-Jewish campaign ...was being promoted by no less a power than the Staff Officers of the Reichswehr." (63)

The Reichwehr's purpose was to create popular political support for WW2. According to Delmer, "Schleicher paid out no less than two million pounds from the Reichswehr's secret funds for the Nazi storm troopers..." (120) They were also funded by Illuminati industrialists and bankers.

(Born and raised in Berlin, Sefton Delmer knew Hitler personally, and had a wide range of confidential sources. During the war, he took charge of British "black propaganda" running a range of radio stations aimed at German soldiers.)

HITLER, "ANTI-COMMUNIST, ANTI-SEMITE"

Communism, Nazism and Zionism are triplets, movements conceived and nurtured by the Illuminati to dupe and manipulate humanity.

In his book "The Hidden Hitler" Lothar Machtan, a Professor of History at Bremen University says Hitler almost joined the Communists in 1918. He demanded a senior party post that would have exempted him from work but they refused. "Hitler did not set foot in the extreme right wing camp until he had been rejected by left wing groups," Machtan writes. (71)

This book asserts that Hitler was an active homosexual with a thick police file of molestation complaints both in Vienna and Munich.

According to Ian Kershaw, Hitler took part in pro Socialist and Communist demonstrations in 1918-1919 and served as a Socialist Soldiers' Council representative. ("Hitler: 1889-1936 Hubris, p 118-120.)

According to Brigitte Hamann, Hitler's best friends in pre-war Vienna were Jewish. He benefited from Jewish charities and hospitality. Jews bought most of his artwork. For this reason, real anti-Semites shunned him. ("Hitler's Vienna: A Dictator's Apprenticeship, pp.347-352)

Hamann suggests that Hitler's ideas of Aryan racial purity and superiority were based on the Jews. She quotes Hitler:

"Through Moses the Jewish people received a rule for life and living one's life that was elevated to a religion which was entirely tailored toward the essence of one's race, and simply and clearly without dogmas and dubious rules of faith...contains what served the ...well being of one's people, nothing toward consideration of others." (351)

CONCLUSION

There is nostalgia for Hitler, in the belief that he represented resistance to the New World Order. In fact, he was created by the Illuminati to start another war. It is possible that he broke with them at some point. On the other hand, he may have deliberately sabotaged the Nazi cause by not promising to liberate the people under Communist yoke.

Similarly, Hitler's crusade against ordinary Jews was gratuitous and self-defeating, costing Germany international support and the atomic bomb. The anti-Semitic campaign seems tailored by the Illuminati to create racial strife and traumatize Jews into advancing the Zionist agenda. The intermarriage rate in Germany was 60%; in another generation German Jews would have been of little value as Illuminati pawns.

People pin their hopes on leaders like Putin and Ahmadinejad but like Hitler, they were obscure figures who were raised to power by an unseen hand. We don't have real political (or cultural) leaders, just Illuminati pawns.

Human history is always the same: A minority wants to monopolize all power and wealth, at the expense of the many.

Mass serial killers are in charge. No matter how they make nice, they will always revert to form. Iraq and 9-11 are examples.

If only they could devote their energy to good instead of evil, the world would be full of natural joy.
----

Some sources in this article were suggested by Jim Condit's fine documentary "The Final Solution to Adolph Hitler"

""Zionism was willing to sacrifice the whole of European Jewry for a Zionist State. Everything was done to create a state of Israel and that was only possible through a world war. Wall Street and Jewish large bankers aided the war effort on both sides. Zionists are also to blame for provoking the growing hatred for Jews in 1988." (Joseph Burg, The Toronto Star, March 31, 1988)."

-----

Major Robert H. Williams reported in his "Williams Intelligence Summary" for February 1950 about James P. Warburg's part in the plot against Christendom. He said: "Last November, the widow of the late General Ludendorff, on trial at Nuremberg, explained why her husband broke with Hiter, confirmed the reports in convincing detail.

She stated that, '...as early as the summer of 1929 James P. Warburg had undertaken an assignment from financial circles in America, which desired to exercise solitary influence on Germany in the unleashing of a national revolution. Warburg's task was to find the suitable man in Germany, and he entered into contract with Adolph Hitler who subequently received sums of money amounting to 27 million dollars up to January 30, 1932, and still another seven million thereafter, enabling him to finance his movement.'"

See also Ted Lang "The Hitler Project"

Anthony Sutton "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler"

and my "Was Hitler an Illuminati Agent?"

----

Comments for "Illuminati Bankers Hired Hitler to Start WW2"

[dogsmilk]

You claim you have nothing against Jews,

NO I SAID, I DON'T HATE ANYONE. CAN YOU NOT SEE THE DIFFERENCE HERE,BOW WOW???? THIS IS HOW THE LIARS TWIST! ANYTHING AFTER THAT LIE/TWIST IS INCONSEQUENTIAL TO ME. YOU MAY THINK YOU ARE FIGHTING FOR GOOD, BUT YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER USEFUL IDIOT FOR THE ZIONIST JEWS AND THE REST OF THE CONTROLLERS.
You refer to "Hollywood queers"; why am I not surprised you're homophobic. Another irrational prejudice for the collection. THIS STATEMENT BY YOU SAYS IT ALL IMO! ANOTHER BLEEDING HEART,PORN-WATCHING, LIBERAL WHO JUST ACCEPTS THINGS AS THEY ARE, WHILE MOST ARE HAVING THEIR LIFE-BLOOD
SUCKED FROM THEM DAILY, BY THE ZIONIST JEWS! YOU CANNOT UNDERSTAND OR SEE YOUR LIFELONG PROGRAMMING, AND PEOPLE LIKE ME, WHO CAN, SCARES YOU! LIKE I SAID BEFORE, YOU ARE EITHER A JEW, OR ADL,A WELL-MEANING SHABBOZ GOY, OR A JUST ANOTHER PROGRAMMED DUMMY! IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU HAVE NOT READ ANY OF ICKE'S BOOKS,EITHER.

Oh I'm sorry - I misinterpreted you. I thought you were trying to say you didn't have anything against Jewish people, but you clearly do then. You are against Jews (except for one or two acceptable Jews), you just don't hate them...is that right?

I like the way your big teenage tantrum totally ignores pretty much everything I said in my response - it would be just too much to admit you were talking utter cock about e.g. Jews and farming wouldn't it? Only us programmed zombies are seduced by the harlot of rational discourse, eh? More enlightened souls just throw a sulky strop instead, right?
You go for it tiger! Graaaa!

Except you pause to confirm your homophobic stance. So that's Jews, Gypsies
(http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16338&page=14 - given the unpleasant Gypsy stereotypes in the 'humour' piece you pasted, I can only assume you don't like them either.)
and gay people on the NickGriffinatnoon shit list so far. Bravo! Go on Nicky boy, don't be shy - who else have you got it in for?
Don't tell me - you yourself are a wonderful, racially pure specimen better than all these inferior foreign types, right?

And I'm just curious - why don't you like gay people? - do they rule the world too? Or did the Jews invent Homosexuality as part of some undefined plot? Go on - let's hear it. Or you can just paste a random article about Jews if it's all too much.

What's what Icke I've read got to do with anything? Are you suggesting he's a racist homophobe too?

I'm more a left anarchist than a liberal. But are you saying you're illiberal? I guess so. No queers, yids or (probably) gypos in Nickatnazi town, eh?

For the record I don't watch porn myself: I find the plots contrived and predictable, the acting unconvincing and the fucking tediously formulaic. Besides, the missus doesn't like it. But to be honest I think it might be an idea if you did. You seem kind of...frustrated. A nice relaxing hand shandy might calm you down a bit...?

[paganus]

Oh I'm sorry - I misinterpreted you. I thought you were trying to say you didn't have anything against Jewish people, but you clearly do then. You are against Jews (except for one or two acceptable Jews), you just don't hate them...is that right?

I like the way your big teenage tantrum totally ignores pretty much everything I said in my response - it would be just too much to admit you were talking utter cock about e.g. Jews and farming wouldn't it? Only us programmed zombies are seduced by the harlot of rational discourse, eh? More enlightened souls just throw a sulky strop instead, right?
You go for it tiger! Graaaa!

Except you pause to confirm your homophobic stance. So that's Jews, Gypsies
(http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16338&page=14 - given the unpleasant Gypsy stereotypes in the 'humour' piece you pasted, I can only assume you don't like them either.)
and gay people on the NickGriffinatnoon shit list so far. Bravo! Go on Nicky boy, don't be shy - who else have you got it in for?
Don't tell me - you yourself are a wonderful, racially pure specimen better than all these inferior foreign types, right?

And I'm just curious - why don't you like gay people? - do they rule the world too? Or did the Jews invent Homosexuality as part of some undefined plot? Go on - let's hear it. Or you can just paste a random article about Jews if it's all too much.

What's what Icke I've read got to do with anything? Are you suggesting he's a racist homophobe too?

I'm more a left anarchist than a liberal. But are you saying you're illiberal? I guess so. No queers, yids or (probably) gypos in Nickatnazi town, eh?

For the record I don't watch porn myself: I find the plots contrived and predictable, the acting unconvincing and the fucking tediously formulaic. Besides, the missus doesn't like it. But to be honest I think it might be an idea if you did. You seem kind of...frustrated. A nice relaxing hand shandy might calm you down a bit...?
the guys trying to expose the zog for what it is,and you resort to insults! i suggest you take a trip to israel and see how you get on in passport control.have fun with that!

[nickatnoon61]

the guys trying to expose the zog for what it is,and you resort to insults! i suggest you take a trip to israel and see how you get on in passport control.have fun with that! Thanx Paganus!!! :)

[kweli]

Oh I'm sorry - I misinterpreted you. I thought you were trying to say you didn't have anything against Jewish people, but you clearly do then. You are against Jews (except for one or two acceptable Jews), you just don't hate them...is that right?

I like the way your big teenage tantrum totally ignores pretty much everything I said in my response - it would be just too much to admit you were talking utter cock about e.g. Jews and farming wouldn't it? Only us programmed zombies are seduced by the harlot of rational discourse, eh? More enlightened souls just throw a sulky strop instead, right?
You go for it tiger! Graaaa!

Except you pause to confirm your homophobic stance. So that's Jews, Gypsies
(http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=16338&page=14 - given the unpleasant Gypsy stereotypes in the 'humour' piece you pasted, I can only assume you don't like them either.)
and gay people on the NickGriffinatnoon shit list so far. Bravo! Go on Nicky boy, don't be shy - who else have you got it in for?
Don't tell me - you yourself are a wonderful, racially pure specimen better than all these inferior foreign types, right?

And I'm just curious - why don't you like gay people? - do they rule the world too? Or did the Jews invent Homosexuality as part of some undefined plot? Go on - let's hear it. Or you can just paste a random article about Jews if it's all too much.

What's what Icke I've read got to do with anything? Are you suggesting he's a racist homophobe too?

I'm more a left anarchist than a liberal. But are you saying you're illiberal? I guess so. No queers, yids or (probably) gypos in Nickatnazi town, eh?

For the record I don't watch porn myself: I find the plots contrived and predictable, the acting unconvincing and the fucking tediously formulaic. Besides, the missus doesn't like it. But to be honest I think it might be an idea if you did. You seem kind of...frustrated. A nice relaxing hand shandy might calm you down a bit...?

Oh what a superior soul you are! I bet you think you come across as intelligent don't you dogsmilk? Well you're very much mistaken. You're the one, throwing personal insults and sticking labels on people. You sound like a bitter, Ill informed TW*T!

[dogsmilk]

Oh what a superior soul you are! I bet you think you come across as intelligent don't you dogsmilk? Well you're very much mistaken. You're the one, throwing personal insults and sticking labels on people. You sound like a bitter, Ill informed TW*T!

Whether I come across as intelligent or not is something I neither know nor care about.
I find it intriguing that darling Nicky can rant and rave, flinging "bleeding-heart porn watching liberal", "programmed dummy" etc about and that somehow doesn't qualify as ad hominems. Indeed, you may care to notice I initially responded to an unprovoked insult he issued to seanX about him 'swallowing Jewish tagnuts' - is that ok in your book, then? Or are you simply a hypocrite?
But then I'm amazed he can post such unpleasant racist 'humour' as he did on the thread I linked to and hardly anyone bats an eyelid. Did you find it funny then Mr Kweli?
But then in my world, going on about "queers" is 'a bit off' too. But it's all apparently fair game on the David 'infinite love' Icke forum. I sympathise with Seanx - it says something about this forum that he feels driven off simply for trying to challenge racism.
If I'm so desperately ill-informed, maybe you'd like to ask yourself since your hero apparently can't answer anything I put to him, what does that make him?. Maybe you yourself can point out specifically what I'm being so ill-informed about? Please do bathe me in your wisdom.
Oh, and I'd say people are more likely to be bitter when they feel the need to scapegoat other social groups for all their ills.

"Trying to expose the ZOG" Pur-lease. Jesus, it's like being in a KKK meeting.

[kweli]

Whether I come across as intelligent or not is something I neither know nor care about.
I find it intriguing that darling Nicky can rant and rave, flinging "bleeding-heart porn watching liberal", "programmed dummy" etc about and that somehow doesn't qualify as ad hominems. Indeed, you may care to notice I initially responded to an unprovoked insult he issued to seanX about him 'swallowing Jewish tagnuts' - is that ok in your book, then? Or are you simply a hypocrite?
But then I'm amazed he can post such unpleasant racist 'humour' as he did on the thread I linked to and hardly anyone bats an eyelid. Did you find it funny then Mr Kweli?
But then in my world, going on about "queers" is 'a bit off' too. But it's all apparently fair game on the David 'infinite love' Icke forum. I sympathise with Seanx - it says something about this forum that he feels driven off simply for trying to challenge racism.
If I'm so desperately ill-informed, maybe you'd like to ask yourself since your hero apparently can't answer anything I put to him, what does that make him?. Maybe you yourself can point out specifically what I'm being so ill-informed about? Please do bathe me in your wisdom.

"Trying to expose the ZOG" Pur-lease. Jesus, it's like being in a KKK meeting.

To be honest dogsmilk, I don't really want to converse with you. I don't like your style. I don't want to give you the opportunity to twist what I say, or attack me personally like you have with Nick.

One thing I would like to know though... are you gay? Is that why you're so hung up on him using the word queer, Why does it offend you so much? And where does he go on about it, like you claim? I only see one mention of "Hollywood queers"

Oh, and for the record, I aint no Mr

[dogsmilk]

Yes, it's easy!!! Just Google key words Jew and psychiatry!!!!
Look at anything obscene and despicable, and you will find Jew behind it!!! Anyone who does a minimal amount of research will see this. I have been researching around 10 years! You are an obvious useful idiot(Shaboz Goy) DM, or are you a JEW??????? Whatever you are, you are becoming more transparent, the more you post!

Whoops! nearly missed this. I might respond in detail to this later. I say might as it's increasingly apparent it's futile to try to debate anyone's sacred cows. I've already noticed on Lizzy's post Makow misquotes Ian Kershaw and forces some other stuff to fit his thesis, but who will even care? What is written on your favourite websites is gospel truth innit? No room for critical thinking in the battle against the Illuminati is there?

Anyway Nicky, though there have obviously been plenty of Jewish psychiatrists, the father of modern psychiatry is generally regarded to be Emil Kraepelin. He pioneered the notion of classifying mental illness in terms of clusters of symptoms as specific 'diseases'. He coined the term dementia praecox for what we now call schizophrenia (the later term being coined by Swiss psychiatrist Paul Eugen Blueler). Kraepelin regarded mental illness as biological in origin in stark contrast to Freud. Ironically, this kind of biological thinking was popular with the Nazis as it fits well with eugenics.
IIRC, there were some dodgy psychiatric 'studies' in this mode that focused on the racial characteristics of Jews. So it's rather ironic you're again blaming the Jews.
This basic, easily checkable information simply won't matter to you though will it? Instead you'll look at a website claiming evil Jews created psychiatry to FUCK US ALL UP!!!!! and just believe it.

I mean,

Look at anything obscene and despicable, and you will find Jew behind it!!!

Is this really where you people are at? This is acceptable? This is what you really think? This is how you think you're going to change the world for the better? This is your "infinite love is the only truth?"

If your support of and collusion with this shite represents how you're going to build your better world, then I think I'd actually prefer the shower of bastards we've got running the show today.

[dogsmilk]

To be honest dogsmilk, I don't really want to converse with you. I don't like your style. I don't want to give you the opportunity to twist what I say, or attack me personally like you have with Nick.

One thing I would like to know though... are you gay? Is that why you're so hung up on him using the word queer, Why does it offend you so much? And where does he go on about it, like you claim? I only see one mention of "Hollywood queers"

Oh, and for the record, I aint no Mr

I'm not aware of twisting anything, but that's your perception.
And I wouldn't personally attack you unless you attacked me or were attacking someone else. I'd certainly dispute your opinions if I disagreed with them though - and expect you to do the same.
It's a bit ironic you think I'll attack you personally, when you leaped in calling me a twat though :)

I'm not gay. You'll notice Nick also said:

ou refer to "Hollywood queers"; why am I not surprised you're homophobic. Another irrational prejudice for the collection. THIS STATEMENT BY YOU SAYS IT ALL IMO! ANOTHER BLEEDING HEART,PORN-WATCHING, LIBERAL WHO JUST ACCEPTS THINGS AS THEY ARE, WHILE MOST ARE HAVING THEIR LIFE-BLOOD

You'll note he in no way disputes my accusation he's a homophobe. Indeed, his response that I'm a bleeding heart liberal seem to me to indicate he probably thinks I'm in the wrong for having a problem with this.

My career is in social care, mostly young people and I have seen first hand the awful psychological damage done to young people who've been made to feel worthless/unnatural/shit simply for being gay.
Otherwise I don't like people being scapegoated for the colour of their skin, their religion or their sexuality and I don't like the way Nick was trying to drag sexuality (in a way he appears simply unable to justify or explain) into his demented obsession with Jewish people.

I initially responded to a post which has now apparently been deleted in which Nick asked seanx if he swallowed the tagnuts when he was licking Jewish arses, a post I regarded as rather foul.

My apologies for making an assumption about your gender.

[comawhite015]

Racism
The issues surrounding Israel are legitimate subjects for debate and David Icke has not flinched from addressing them despite the attacks on him this has triggered over the years. However, this debate can be conducted without falling into the cesspit of gratuitous racist abuse. There is no need for this for a view about Israel's policies to be expressed and this is not a place to dump such bile. There are many forums that would welcome it, this one does not.



Treating Others
This is a place for open and free discussion on a wide range of topics, and we ask that you respect each other by not bullying or harassing other members of the forum.

This is not the place for personal attacks, or to deliberately stop the flow of conversation from taking place. Please; Do not Hijack threads with the same questions if the moderator has already answered them, do not post irrelevent images or text in other people's topics for no reason other than disruption, do not make any personal insults or irrelevent one word answers.


Read the rules, boys and girls. Where the hell are the mods?

[kweli]

I'm not aware of twisting anything, but that's your perception.And I wouldn't personally attack you unless you attacked me or were attacking someone else. I'd certainly dispute your opinions if I disagreed with them though - and expect you to do the same.
It's a bit ironic you think I'll attack you personally, when you leaped in calling me a twat though :)

I'm not gay. You'll notice Nick also said:



You'll note he in no way disputes my accusation he's a homophobe. Indeed, his response that I'm a bleeding heart liberal seem to me to indicate he probably thinks I'm in the wrong for having a problem with this.

My career is in social care, mostly young people and I have seen first hand the awful psychological damage done to young people who've been made to feel worthless/unnatural/shit simply for being gay.
Otherwise I don't like people being scapegoated for the colour of their skin, their religion or their sexuality and I don't like the way Nick was trying to drag sexuality (in a way he appears simply unable to justify or explain) into his demented obsession with Jewish people.

I initially responded to a post which has now apparently been deleted in which Nick asked seanx if he swallowed the tagnuts when he was licking Jewish arses, a post I regarded as rather foul.

My apologies for making an assumption about your gender.

Yes, that's just my perception, and you labelling someone as a rascist homophobe? well that's just your perception. I don't see it that way. I'm sure if Nick had been guilty of the things you accuse him of, certain moderators would have chucked this thread in the rant room immediately.

I fully understand where you're coming from relating to the kids you work with (btw, much respect to you :) but don't you think, the powers that be have engineered it to be this way?

And hey, where did I call you a twat? I actually meant a twot! Yes a twot, that's what you are. Twot is an old yorkshire saying... I daren't tell you what it means though, you're sooooooooo easily offended. ;)

[dogsmilk]

Yes, that's just my perception, and you labelling someone as a rascist homophobe? well that's just your perception. I don't see it that way. I'm sure if Nick had been guilty of the things you accuse him of, certain moderators would have chucked this thread in the rant room immediately.

I fully understand where you're coming from relating to the kids you work with (btw, much respect to you :) but don't you think, the powers that be have engineered it to be this way?

And hey, where did I call you a twat? I actually meant a twot! Yes a twot, that's what you are. Twot is an old yorkshire saying... I daren't tell you what it means though, you're sooooooooo easily offended. ;)

You're absolutely right, it is just my perception - one Nick can freely correct me on if he so wishes. I would happily apologise if I have misjudged him. As it is he even had a go at me for mistakenly saying he said he had nothing against Jews, so my perception remains he's a rather prejudiced chap.

I personally think people are quite good at finding differences to persecute each other for all by themselves and I think historically particular buttons are pressed by whoever when it's handy. At any rate, I think consumer fetishism is more...engineered right now. It seems not wearing the exact right overpriced trainers made for pennies by children the same age is like being expected to leave the house covered in poo.

If you are going to call me a twot I would like to know what it means. I looked it up on the net but all I got was it's a variation on twat which is kinda back where I started. Or Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament which doesn't exactly sound right and it's the same with The War On Terror, though Total Waste Of Time is perhaps plausible.
If you don't let me know that will bug me far more than being called one...
...or maybe that's the plan!?

[kweli]

You're absolutely right, it is just my perception - one Nick can freely correct me on if he so wishes. I would happily apologise if I have misjudged him. As it is he even had a go at me for mistakenly saying he said he had nothing against Jews, so my perception remains he's a rather prejudiced chap.

I personally think people are quite good at finding differences to persecute each other for all by themselves and I think historically particular buttons are pressed by whoever when it's handy. At any rate, I think consumer fetishism is more...engineered right now. It seems not wearing the exact right overpriced trainers made for pennies by children the same age is like being expected to leave the house covered in poo.

If you are going to call me a twot I would like to know what it means. I looked it up on the net but all I got was it's a variation on twat which is kinda back where I started. Or Theological Wordbook of the Old Testament which doesn't exactly sound right and it's the same with The War On Terror, though Total Waste Of Time is perhaps plausible.
If you don't let me know that will bug me far more than being called one...
...or maybe that's the plan!?

Well I've given my opinion, so I guess it's up to you and Nick to sort it out.

I'm certainly on the same page as you with the sentance I've highlighted. I totally agree.

And oh my goodness! pmsl. A Twot lol. I can't believe you went and looked it up, ya daft sod :) I was just having a bit of fun.

[dogsmilk]

Do you mean daft sod in the Yorkshire sense?...I'll just go and have a look:)

[lizzy]

Read the rules, boys and girls. Where the hell are the mods?

boo hoo, run to mommy. she will wipe your nose.

[nickatnoon61]

boo hoo, run to mommy. she will wipe your nose. REALLY LIZZY!!!!!!! :D

[nickatnoon61]

You're absolutely right, it is just my perception - one Nick can freely correct me on if he so wishes. I would happily apologise if I have misjudged him. As it is he even had a go at me for mistakenly saying he said he had nothing against Jews, so my perception remains he's a rather prejudiced chap.

[/i] LIKE I SAID BEFORE DM,I SAID I DON'T HATE ANYONE!!!!! NOW GO BACK LIKE A GOOD BOY AND READ YOUR FIRST POST!AND I DO NOT GIVE A DOG'S MILK WHAT YOUR OPINION OF ME IS! PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE LAUGHABLE(ADL STRATEGY) YOU HAVE NEVER ADDRESSED THE ISSUES I HAVE PUT ON THE TABLE. IT'S THAT SIMPLE! TRY THIS,DM,I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS POINT BECAUSE..................... BLAH BLAH BLAH. YOU KNOW THE ONE'S WHO THINK THEY ARE "EDUCATED" LIKE YOURSELF, ARE, BY FAR, THE MOST IGNORANT/CONDITIONED. I AM LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF YOU IN MY "ALTERNATIVE " STUDIES JUST BECAUSE I HAVE THE ABILITY TO KNOW SHITE WHEN I HEAR,SEE, SMELL IT!!!! THAT MEANS JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THE ZIONIST EDUCATION/MEDIA SYSTEM HAS SPAWNED!

[nickatnoon61]

Yes, that's just my perception, and you labelling someone as a rascist homophobe? well that's just your perception. I don't see it that way. I'm sure if Nick had been guilty of the things you accuse him of, certain moderators would have chucked this thread in the rant room immediately.

;)thank you kweli, "IF YOU CANNOT ANSWER AN ARGUMENT....ATTACK THE ONE MAKING IT" Some people can see right thru this ploy, others cannot. I CAN!

[dogsmilk]

LIKE I SAID BEFORE DM,I SAID I DON'T HATE ANYONE!!!!! NOW GO BACK LIKE A GOOD BOY AND READ YOUR FIRST POST!AND I DO NOT GIVE A DOG'S MILK WHAT YOUR OPINION OF ME IS! PERSONAL ATTACKS ARE LAUGHABLE(ADL STRATEGY) YOU HAVE NEVER ADDRESSED THE ISSUES I HAVE PUT ON THE TABLE. IT'S THAT SIMPLE! TRY THIS,DM,I DO NOT AGREE WITH THIS POINT BECAUSE..................... BLAH BLAH BLAH. YOU KNOW THE ONE'S WHO THINK THEY ARE "EDUCATED" LIKE YOURSELF, ARE, BY FAR, THE MOST IGNORANT/CONDITIONED. I AM LIGHT YEARS AHEAD OF YOU IN MY "ALTERNATIVE " STUDIES JUST BECAUSE I HAVE THE ABILITY TO KNOW SHITE WHEN I HEAR,SEE, SMELL IT!!!! THAT MEANS JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THE ZIONIST EDUCATION/MEDIA SYSTEM HAS SPAWNED!

If you look back down thread Nick, you'll notice I put a bunch of questions to you you've patently failed to answer.
However, I appreciate you've been researching for a long time, so perhaps you would share the benefit of your experience if we are polite to each other? Let bygones be bygones?

I'll put something in a format you approve of:

The farmers...oops, I forgot the Jews don't grow things, because that is too productive,beneficial, and requires actual work/labor!

I do not agree with this point because there is more than ample evidence to refute the claim that Jews "do not grow things":

http://www.kshs.org/features/feat1201.htm
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007...h_farm_sch.php
http://www.vcn.bc.ca/outlook/library...rmColonies.htm
http://books.google.com/books?id=ORDFC43PDZwC&pg=PA226&lpg=PA226&dq=jewish+farming&source=web&ots=8NGfq5cuxu&sig=LNNvMogb_aXDuhmE0CZUx_AWeCw
http://www.niedermayer.ca/~ral/history/
http://www.hogriver.org/issues/v04n02/tillers.htm
http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/021115/farm.shtml
http://www.anthrosource.net/doi/abs/10.1525/tea.1995.2.2.23
http://www.jhssa.org/34.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,738693,00.html
http://www.bethdavid.info/beth%20david%20history.pdf
http://jbuff.com/c031804.htm

- this is a tiny, random sample of the chronologically and geographically diverse Jewish presence in farming - this certainly IMO demonstrates Jews do "grow things" and quite clearly engage in work/labour to accomplish this.

Perhaps it would be easier to start with just this one point for the time being?

I await your response - thanks.

[nickatnoon61]

I do not agree with this point because there is more than ample evidence to refute the claim that Jews "do not grow things":

http://www.kshs.org/features/feat1201.htm
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007...h_farm_sch.php
http://www.vcn.bc.ca/outlook/library...rmColonies.htm
http://books.google.com/books?id=ORDFC43PDZwC&pg=PA226&lpg=PA226&dq=jewish+farming&source=web&ots=8NGfq5cuxu&sig=LNNvMogb_aXDuhmE0CZUx_AWeCw
http://www.niedermayer.ca/~ral/history/
http://www.hogriver.org/issues/v04n02/tillers.htm
http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/021115/farm.shtml
http://www.anthrosource.net/doi/abs/10.1525/tea.1995.2.2.23
http://www.jhssa.org/34.html
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,738693,00.html
http://www.bethdavid.info/beth%20david%20history.pdf
http://jbuff.com/c031804.htm

- this is a tiny, random sample of the chronologically and geographically diverse Jewish presence in farming - this certainly IMO demonstrates Jews do "grow things" and quite clearly engage in work/labour to accomplish this.

Perhaps it would be easier to start with just this one point for the time being?

I await your response - thanks. Its so pathetic and transparent how you pick out the least important topic on here and waste time debating about that!Of coures there are some Jews who are farmers(in Israel). Look up the disproportionate amount of Jews who are farmers in the USA,Canada,Oz, etc. My point is, one cannot steal, OR MAKE A LOT OF$$$$$ in that industry! I AM FOCUSING on the JEWS who are HIGHLY PREDOMINATE (FOR A VERY SMALL POPULATION)in the banking(THIEVING), pornography(immorality), lawyering(lying), doctoring(killing),media(lying),entertainment(dist raction) industries! Do you want to discuss that little tidbit!!!!!:confused:

[comawhite015]

boo hoo, run to mommy. she will wipe your nose.

Cheers for proving your maturity. Or lack thereof. You evolved soul you.

[lizzy]

Cheers for proving your maturity. Or lack thereof. You evolved soul you.
from your avatar you would'nt recognize maturity , if handed the book of Moses, by Moses.
I have witnessed immature re-actions here by quite a few self procalimed 'evolved' types / souls.
I profess neither, just not brain washed, so you might be right. LOL

[comawhite015]

^^ Judging books by covers, eh? ;p

[nickatnoon61]

^^ Judging books by covers, eh? ;p cornhole, nothing intelligent to contribute? R U 12 yrs. old?

[nickatnoon61]

Pres. Bush started properly with visit to Jewish Holcaust memorial. His next stop will be ......Russian Holocaust Memorial better known as "66 Milion Archipelag Gulag", then Ukrainian Holcaust memorial known as "7 Million starved by famine", then Armenian and Greek Holocaust memorials known as "Great Armenian 2 Million Slaughter by Turkish beasts" and "Smirna 1 Million Greeks extermination by turkish beasts", then Serbian Holocaust Memorial known as "1 Million Jasenovac" by fanatic Croatian Roman Catholics, then Irish Holocaust memorial known as "Great potato famine", and the greatest of all, Husit memorial Holocaust where in Husite Wars, bestial Roman Catholic armies slaughtred 2/3 of Czech nation in 30 Years Husite Wars.
J. Hus



----- Original Message -----

From: Chuck Brucks
To: Chuck Brucks
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2008 6:30 PM
Subject: Bush visits the WRONG Memorial

I'm not surprised that Bush was invited to visit the holocaust memorial. There is one memorial that I wished Bush would've visited while he was there and that's the memorial of of mass-murderer Baruch Goldstein. After all, his memorial has become an Israeli national shrine, a sort of second Wailing Wall, with thousands of religious Jews flocking there to worship and pay their respects. Baruch Goldstein, remember, is the Jew from Brooklyn who went to Israel so obsessed with Jewish racial hatred against the Palestinians that he slaughtered 29 of them in February 1994 while they were praying at the Ibrahimi mosque in Hebron. Goldstein sneaked up behind the Palestinians while they were kneeling in prayer and opened fire with an assault rifle, killing 29 of them and wounding another 60. Goldstein became an instant national hero to the Jews, and many Jewish tourists from America make a pilgrimage to his tomb near Hebron. The tomb bears an inscription in Hebrew which in English reads: "He gave his life for the people of Israel, its Torah, and its land."
Or, what about the memorial in Lebanon? Too bad Bush didn't visit Lebanon on this trip. Maybe he might on his next trip. Then the Lebanese could invite him to see the memorial at Qana, Lebanon where the Israelis in April, 1996 intentionally shelled a Lebanese Refugee camp that killed 103 men, women, and especially children. Qana, Lebanon - April War

Bush visits Israel's Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial; says US should have bombed Auschwitz

.c The Associated Press

JERUSALEM (AP) - President Bush had tears in his eyes during an hour-long tour of Israel's Holocaust memorial Friday and told Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice that the U.S. should have bombed Auschwitz to halt the killing, the memorial's chairman said.

Bush emerged from a tour of the Yad Vashem memorial calling it a ``sobering reminder'' that evil must be resisted, and praising victims for not losing their faith.

Wearing a yarmulke, Bush placed a red-white-and-blue wreath on a stone slab that covers ashes of Holocaust victims taken from six extermination camps. He also lit a torch memorializing the victims.

Bush was visibly moved as he toured the site, said Yad Vashem's chairman, Avner Shalev.

``Twice, I saw tears well up in his eyes,'' Shalev said.

At one point, Bush viewed aerial photos of the Auschwitz camp taken during the war by U.S. forces and called Rice over to discuss why the American government had decided against bombing the site, Shalev said.

``We were talking about the often-discussed 'Could the United States have done more by bombing the train tracks?''' Rice told reporters later aboard Air Force One. ``And so we were just talking about the various explanations that had been given about why that might not have been done.''

The Allies had detailed reports about Auschwitz during the war from Polish partisans and escaped prisoners. But they chose not to bomb the camp, the rail lines leading to it, or any of the other Nazi death camps, preferring instead to focus all resources on the broader military effort, a decision that became the subject of intense controversy years later.

Between 1.1 million and 1.5 million people were killed at the camp.

``We should have bombed it,'' Bush said, according to Shalev.

In the memorial's visitors' book, the president wrote simply, ``God bless Israel, George Bush.''

The memorial was closed to the public and under heavy guard Friday, with armed soldiers standing on top of some of the site's monuments and a police helicopter and surveillance blimp hovering in the air overhead.

``I was most impressed that people in the face of horror and evil would not forsake their God. In the face of unspeakable crimes against humanity, brave souls - young and old - stood strong for what they believe,'' Bush said.

``I wish as many people as possible would come to this place. It is a sobering reminder that evil exists, and a call that when evil exists we must resist it,'' he said.

It was Bush's second visit to the Holocaust memorial, a regular stop on the visits of foreign dignitaries. His first was in 1998, as governor of Texas. The last U.S. president to visit was Bill Clinton in 1994.

Bush, making the most extensive Mideast trip of his presidency, was accompanied on his tour by a small party that included Rice and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.

At the compound, overlooking a forest on Jerusalem's outskirts, Bush visited a memorial to the 1.5 million Jewish children killed in the Holocaust, featuring six candles reflected 1.5 million times in a hall of mirrors. At the site's Hall of Remembrance, he heard a cantor sing a Jewish prayer for the dead.

Shalev presented Bush with illustrations of the Bible drawn by the Jewish artist Carol Deutsch, who perished in the Holocaust.

Deutsch created the works while in hiding from the Nazis in Belgium. He was informed upon, and died in 1944 in the Buchenwald camp. After the war, his daughter Ingrid discovered that the Nazis had confiscated their furniture and valuables but had left behind a single item: a meticulously crafted wooden box adorned with a Star of David and a seven-branched menorah, containing a collection of 99 of the artist's illustrations of biblical scenes.

The originals are on display at Yad Vashem. The memorial recently decided to produce a special series of 500 replicas, the first of which was to be presented to Bush.

Debbie Deutsch-Berman, a Yad Vashem employee whose grandfather was Deutsch's brother, said she was proud that Bush would be given her relative's artwork.

``These are not just his paintings, they are his legacy, and the fact that they survived shows that as much as our enemies tried to destroy the ideas that these paintings embody, they failed,'' she said.

Later Friday, Bush was to wrap up his three-day visit to Israel and the Palestinian territories with a visit to Christian holy sites in Galilee before departing for Kuwait, the next stop on his Mideast tour.

[nickatnoon61]

typical Jewish - right?

let me tell you my story - maybe I already did: was born in Hamburg, Germany in 1935. in 1940 my father bought a piece of property with a house on it, that needed repairs and upgrading. later that year my father, an economist, was sent to Poland, which Germany had just occupied, and the house repairs were put on hold. (I know all of this only from documentation my brother and I found after my mother passed away in 1995). we stayed in Poland until January 1945 after my father was (supposedly) killed during an air raid in the town of Koblenz, not too far from Bonn. after we fled the invasion of the russians we found shelter in a village outside Hamburg, which was restricted because of the destruction. in 1947 my mother was "informed" that the house she thought we owned had been returned to its "rightful" owner, an investigation my (lawyer) brother did in 1971 shoed that the house had been given to somebody with a jewish name, but was no relation to the original owner and had been sold several times since, and then had been demolished and a tenement building been erected.
Chuck - there was NEVER any compensation for my family for this - I am sure my father had no idea from whom he bought the house.

and this country gives the people cars? and the German government pays for that?
well - we had a guy in our neighborhood who claimed he was a KZ survivor: he did have the initials "KZ" tatooed on his right forearm - a sure sign that he did it himself. he came to me with the following: as survivors of the Holocaust he flew to Berlin (before the wall came down, I believe 12987) at the invitation and expense of the people of Berlin. unfortunately his wife got sick and he wanted me to write a letter in German to the mayor of Berlin explaining that he now wants to return and go to the former East Germany where his father is buried. I told him I would do it and wrote just a thank you note, without the request. (the guy does not understand German at all). after 1989 he came to me and asked me if I could find a "good" lawyer in Berlin, preferably "unter den Linden" a road where many lawyers had or used to have their offices), because he wanted for ge "compensation" from Germany for having lost their business in Berlin. he told me about a Haberdasher store that hes father owned. I explained to him that I had been away from Germany for more than 30 years and had absolutely no connection to there anymore. I recommended to contact the German Embassy. well, he had done that, but the lawyer he was referred to was asking 10% of the settlement and he didn't want to pay that much, he was looking for somebody who only asked for five. I declined the offer.

no wonder the jews are hated all over the world.
Karin

[paganus]

re bush at memorial.what a pity there is NO memorial to all the Native Americans that were slaughtered by u.s that he could visit.but then,maybe they dont count..hm?

[nickatnoon61]

re bush at memorial.what a pity there is NO memorial to all the Native Americans that were slaughtered by u.s that he could visit.but then,maybe they dont count..hm?
http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/
Hi PG, this is a site from Canada. This guy is a friend of mine whom I support!

[paganus]

http://www.hiddenfromhistory.org/
Hi PG, this is a site from Canada. This guy is a friend of mine whom I support!good site!

[paganus]

re jews and farming etc.whats more disturbing is their entire 'religion is based on anti-vegetarianism.i mean,abel gives meat as a sacrifice and its accepted.Cain gives veggie stuff and its rejected!

[nickatnoon61]

re jews and farming etc.whats more disturbing is their entire 'religion is based on anti-vegetarianism.i mean,abel gives meat as a sacrifice and its accepted.Cain gives veggie stuff and its rejected!Thanx PG,
Yes, I remember reading that years ago, and it struck me as being WRONG. I am vegan, and veggie for 25ish years. That is another reason why I feel the Bible, and it's worshippers/followers are crap!!! THE BIBLE IS FILLED WITH VIOLENCE, AND OPENLY ENDORSES SLAVERY! IT IS MIND CONTROL AT IT'S HEIGHT! :eek:

[dogsmilk]

Its so pathetic and transparent how you pick out the least important topic on here and waste time debating about that!Of coures there are some Jews who are farmers(in Israel). Look up the disproportionate amount of Jews who are farmers in the USA,Canada,Oz, etc. My point is, one cannot steal, OR MAKE A LOT OF$$$$$ in that industry! I AM FOCUSING on the JEWS who are HIGHLY PREDOMINATE (FOR A VERY SMALL POPULATION)in the banking(THIEVING), pornography(immorality), lawyering(lying), doctoring(killing),media(lying),entertainment(dist raction) industries! Do you want to discuss that little tidbit!!!!!:confused:

That's fine, except you've switched from what you were saying before. Furthermore, from the links provided you'll see a lot of Jewish involvement in farming in e.g. the United States. Saying Jews 'don't grow things' because they 'don't like work/labour' is simply wrong. The point I'm trying to get across is that Jews are just normal people like everyone else - some good, some bad, some doing positive things, some doing negative things.
If you want to find Jews behind all evil, you will, because you'll just look for Jews (often on the most tenuous grounds if a lot of the stuff around 'Jews run the media' I've seen is anything to go by - it just involves listing people who have 'Jewish blood' irrespective of their faith and beliefs, sometimes who are ideologically opposed to each other and decides they mysteriously run everything without being able to explain how) and make big lists of 'Jews' (by a very broad definition) ignoring everyone and everything that doesn't fit. The problem is, you'll then miss the dominant systems and actual elites that sustain them that couldn't care less about the tenets of Judaism.
I'm not raising anything else now, as I'll be unable to post for at least a few days.
However, respect to you on your veganism. We at least have one thing in common.:)
And contrary to whatever Paganus just randomly decided, I think you'll find there are some Jews that agree with you in this area too. E.g.
http://www.wesleyan.edu/wsa/warn/jewish.htm

[joyful]

I doubt very much Hitler was an illuminati plant. History shows however that Trotsky, Stalin and the other communists of the Soviet Union definitely were. Trotsky et all were in fact New York jews sent to Russia from New York with banker money to overthrow the white ruling class in Russia, dispossess the Russian people and create the communist state. The 5 leading men of communism were all jewish and they kept it a secret to fool the "workers". (See how they look down on the whites from the language they use.)

Of the 384 commisars of the communist state, 13 were Russians, over 300 were jews and 264 of those jews had come over from the USA!