Benazir Bhutto has been KILLED!

[greenleaf]

At 13:26 it has just been reported on BBC News 24 that Benazir Bhutto has been KILLED!

Double Post (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=16540)

[hirschfelder]

At 13:31 they're reporting that she's merely wounded!

[03storic]

Yes!

[steevo]

Wasnt she working for the NWO ?

[shelflife]

No doubt Bush will be trying think up how it is a sign for him to invade Iran.

[cf24]

Was wondering how long it would be before it happened.....

[sunyatta60]

Probably taken out by the CIA/Mossad prats because they want their little dictator of a puppet to stay in power.

[tintin]

Seems a major event to me.
Have had a quick look at Benazir Bhutto
and huge symbolism in this woman.

Will post about it in the NEWS behind the NEWS thread,
because there are many hidden messages just below
the surface here.

[blue]

yep just heard the news.....shes been assasinated. 5 bullets into her body one piercing her neck...feel sorry for her kids.

[steevo]

They said on BBC News 24 that it was Al Quaida who killed her. How do they know that ? They know because "suicide bombings are what Al Quaida do", that's what that expert said lmao. :rolleyes:

[steevo]

yep just heard the news.....shes been assasinated. 5 bullets into her body one piercing her neck...feel sorry for her kids.

Yeah maybe I feel sorry for her kids but she was working for the NWO to help "bring democracy":rolleyes: to Pakistan because President Musharraf would not co-operate with America and Britain on the so called "war on terror". Pakistan is seen as stragically important to America becuase it borders Afghanistan and Iran.

[real6]

I'd like to see what TINTIN says about this. Interesting posts....

[sunyatta60]

They said on BBC News 24 that it was Al Quaida who killed her. How do they know that ? They know because "suicide bombings are what Al Quaida do", that's what that expert said lmao. :rolleyes:

Like I said it was the CIA they are running Bin Ladens gang of killers.

[steevo]

Like I said it was the CIA they are running Bin Ladens gang of killers.

Yes it's very probable that the CIA were behind it because this now gives them a good excuse to bring "democracy" to Pakistan and they are already talking about that on the news and how Pakistan is a "rogue state" SURPRISE SURPRISE :rolleyes:
I think that the CIA realise that the Pakistani people would NOT want an their President to be a lapdog for Bush so Bhutto probably had to be sacrificed.

[sunyatta60]

I think that the CIA realise that the Pakistani people would NOT want an their President to be a lapdog for Bush so Bhutto probably had to be sacrificed.

My take on is different they want Mushareff to win any election he is already a well placed puppet of the NWO you cannot become a Dictator of any country if you are not one of theirs.

[steevo]

My take on is different they want Mushareff to win any election he is already a well placed puppet of the NWO you cannot become a Dictator of any country if you are not one of theirs.

So do you think that this is one of their mind games where they make us think that Musharaff is against America when in fact he is FOR America ? It doesnt seem that way to me BUT it's hard to tell for sure cos they are the masters of deception.

[shredmasteruk]

Ever since the first days of mono theism, the concept of sin, has been used to repress people and turn them into followers instead of thinkers.

Sadly some followers will kill to appease their God.
And various religious teachings prescribe killing.

God fearing people killed Benazir Bhutto. May she rest in peace.

[ssyx]

BBC News: "Pakistani's should honour her with democracy" - Bush

[tintin]

I'd like to see what TINTIN says about this. Interesting posts....

Have just posted about it.
I put it in the NEWS BEHIND THE NEWS thread because
this is not an isolated event.
The TIGER STORY on Christmas day is linked to this
one. It´s about war and oil and NUKES.
and BUSH very much connected again.

And the importance of these events are magnified
because of the CHRISTMAS DAYS.
the TIGER was from SAN FRANCISCO ZOO.

San Francisco is named after saint franciscus of ASSISI.
He was the patron saint of ANIMALS. Feast day is 4 October.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Sfzoologo.gif

the San FRANCISCO ZOO is

GREEN.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Flag_of_Pakistan_(bordered).svg/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_(bordered).svg.png

PAKISTAN is GREEN.

GREEN is the color of MONEY and the color of VENUS.
Venus or LUCIFER.

The SAN FRANCISCO ZOO was previously named

THE FLEISCHACKER ZOO.
Translated it means
The BUTCHER ZOO.

Fleisch in German is flesh. Hacker is crusher.
So a BUTCHERS ZOO.
Combine that with World animal day and
the BHUTTO killing.

BUTCHER to me looks not good.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/TheButcher.jpg

FRENCH movie the BUTCHER.
We see ORANGE.
Staphane Audran. French movie star in ORANGE.
Born 2 november, 112 or EUROPEAN ALARM number.
That movie was released on 27 Febraury , the day of the
REICHSTAG FIRE in Berlin.

That´s when HITLER´s rule started.

BUTHERS ZOO.
We have a famous BUTCHER in ENGLAND.
TERRY BUTCHER.
I googled Terry Butcher and I saw BLOOD ALL OVER.....

http://www.tractor-boys.com/Butcher%20blood.gif

Terry Butcher and BLOOD.
Born 28 DECEMBER.

we had the TIGER, BUTCHER story on 25 December, and today the 27th.
TERRY BUTCHER 28 December.....
Terry or TERROR......

http://www.interactiveselfstudy.com/Images/slaughterhouse5.jpg

BUTCHER´s ZOO and a SLAUGHTERHOUSE number 5.
Number of death.
KURT VONNEGUT died this year.
He was born on 11 NOVEMBER. 11.11.
ELEVEN , number of FOOLS and LEONARDO DI CAPRIO DAY.
Means TITANIC.

[water drinker]

Have just posted about it.
I put it in the NEWS BEHIND THE NEWS thread because
this is not an isolated event.
The TIGER STORY on Christmas day is linked to this
one. It´s about war and oil and NUKES.
and BUSH very much connected again.

And the importance of these events are magnified
because of the CHRISTMAS DAYS.
the TIGER was from SAN FRANCISCO ZOO.

San Francisco is named after saint franciscus of ASSISI.
He was the patron saint of ANIMALS. Feast day is 4 October.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Sfzoologo.gif

the San FRANCISCO ZOO is

GREEN.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Flag_of_Pakistan_(bordered).svg/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_(bordered).svg.png

PAKISTAN is GREEN.

GREEN is the color of MONEY and the color of VENUS.
Venus or LUCIFER.

The SAN FRANCISCO ZOO was previously named

THE FLEISCHACKER ZOO.
Translated it means
The BUTCHER ZOO.

Fleisch in German is flesh. Hacker is crusher.
So a BUTCHERS ZOO.
Combine that with World animal day and
the BHUTTO killing.

BUTCHER to me looks not good.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/TheButcher.jpg

FRENCH movie the BUTCHER.
We see ORANGE.
Staphane Audran. French movie star in ORANGE.
Born 2 november, 112 or EUROPEAN ALARM number.
That movie was released on 27 Febraury , the day of the
REICHSTAG FIRE in Berlin.

That´s when HITLER´s rule started.

BUTHERS ZOO.
We have a famous BUTCHER in ENGLAND.
TERRY BUTCHER.
I googled Terry Butcher and I saw BLOOD ALL OVER.....

http://www.tractor-boys.com/Butcher%20blood.gif

Terry Butcher and BLOOD.
Born 28 DECEMBER.

we had the TIGER, BUTCHER story on 25 December, and today the 27th.
TERRY BUTCHER 28 December.....
Terry or TERROR......

http://www.interactiveselfstudy.com/Images/slaughterhouse5.jpg

BUTCHER´s ZOO and a SLAUGHTERHOUSE number 5.
Number of death.
KURT VONNEGUT died this year.
He was born on 11 NOVEMBER. 11.11.
ELEVEN , number of FOOLS and LEONARDO DI CAPRIO DAY.
Means TITANIC.

You are rediculous if you believe that, too much free time me thinks.

[mindsplinter]

Ever since the first days of mono theism, the concept of sin, has been used to repress people and turn them into followers instead of thinkers.

Sadly some followers will kill to appease their God.
And various religious teachings prescribe killing.

God fearing people killed Benazir Bhutto. May she rest in peace.

You've made a good point about the sins of the people being used against them for control. In many cases though a so called suicide bomber isn't aware they are carrying explosives...as in set off by remote. Then there are the mind controlled slave types who are used to blow up people, property, and political opponents. After 9/11 i'm not so quick to pen a crime on religious fervor. I still don't care for religion, but we need to test the case before starting a "religious" conflict.

[toedipper]

Listening to BBC Radio 5 Live in the UK.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/fivelive/

They've started the 'Al Qaeda done it' spin as directed by their Masters.

Of course no doubt Iran will get a mention as well.

You could not make it up.

Toe

[shredmasteruk]

Mindsplitter, in my opinion Religions are a tried and tested method of mind control.

There may not be anything in the Quran which advocates suicide bombings, but there is plenty which advocates the killing of ones 'enemies'.

There is stuff in the Old Testament which prescribes killing, and there are teachings in other faiths which promote much of the same.

I don't think that suicide bombers are unaware of what they are doing, I think they've been fooled into thinking that its what 'God' wants of them.

But a religion and individual followers are two different things. Individuals should not be persecuted for the crimes of others.

[tintin]

You are rediculous if you believe that, too much free time me thinks.

You should drink BEER instead of WATER, wiseguy.

[mindsplinter]

Mindsplitter, in my opinion Religions are a tried and tested method of mind control.

There may not be anything in the Quran which advocates suicide bombings, but there is plenty which advocates the killing of ones 'enemies'.

There is stuff in the Old Testament which prescribes killing, and there are teachings in other faiths which promote much of the same.

I don't think that suicide bombers are unaware of what they are doing, I think they've been fooled into thinking that its what 'God' wants of them.

But a religion and individual followers are two different things. Individuals should not be persecuted for the crimes of others.

Point well taken. What I was attempting to say was that after 9/11 we found out that the so called radical Muslems were just stooges who drank at strip clubs and were not followers of the Koran. They were unwittingly conned into being at the wrong place at the wrong time. So I caution that with many so called suicide bombings that they too may be unwilling players in the game of totalitarian control.

[pri01]

You are rediculous if you believe that, too much free time me thinks.


With all due respect Water Drinker how hypocritical. You join this forum this month and from what I've seen from your posts you seem to have no tolerance with people who comment on things they seem to know little about ie. Islam. Practice what you preach then. If you take the time to actually read through Tintins posts, you might have a clearer understanding of what his research uncovers.

[greenleaf]

You are rediculous if you believe that, too much free time me thinks.


some might say it is us that are ridiculous for NOT thinking it..!

[phantom]

This was inevitable.

You can see the huge explosion 42 sec into this video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5650851233379708388&q=Benazir+Bhutto+assassinated&total=112&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

[pri01]

This was inevitable.

You can see the huge explosion 42 sec into this video.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5650851233379708388&q=Benazir+Bhutto+assassinated&total=112&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2


Thanks for this but it wont open for me

[zero1]

Hard to know what's going on, isn't it? Still, I predicted she'd be killed months ago, even as I suspected she'd been sent back to Pakistan with a deal already brokered with the West for (essentially) puppet-government, under her control.

Scrap that idea! Now she's been shot, who the fuck knows who's doing who?!

Another reason to hate politics, everybody. :D

[phantom]

Hi pri01

Third video down in this link

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Benazir+Bhutto+assassinated

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZQkviPTEhw

[pri01]

Thank you

[mindsplinter]

So, let's see, humm, It must have been a faction of the Taliban which has its headquarters next to Iran's nuclear power plant. They are also known to train more "terrorist talibanys" on the oil rich plateau of West Iran. Of course now I see the big picture.

[mariag]

My thoughts are these. Every person that has been assasined in any way has been removed from this earth for just one singel reason and that is this. They know something very important and have had the ability to tell it to the world or at least tried to. So the NWO are frightened that they will expose the true agenda of a One nation under political terror and mass mind control so they have to remove them to secure theire agenda. This is how I see it. There is always a reason and I think it is pretty obvious that Benazir was murdered for the same reason as Diana was and JFK and Olof Palme and all the other that spoke of peace and liberalism. Even if they might have been part of a secret NWO agende themself thay has been assesined before they exposed the truth.
This is just my thoughts and I am pleased if anyone would correct me or even help me out here. Cause it seem to me that everytime a person tries to start peaceful work in this world they always end up dead.
Love and Peace to all .

[sunyatta60]

So do you think that this is one of their mind games where they make us think that Musharaff is against America when in fact he is FOR America ? It doesnt seem that way to me BUT it's hard to tell for sure cos they are the masters of deception.

You have to remember that in their game some people get to play the good guys and some the bad. Musharref is their puppet and he will play a most excellent part. But remember it is all part of the dream it is all bollocks in other words designed to create much Fear. Best thing we can all do is not feed the Satanist Remembering that Beside God there is nothing else.

[harris999]

I believe this is of some significance, the start of something maybe.

I just saw some "US official" on the TV saying how "Those responsible must be brought to justice" for the sake of "democracy" or something like that. Just like Saddam Hussian was "brought to justice".

But, time will tell..

[mindsplinter]

Yah fearful people, we need more justice. I'm sure they will need to invade Iran now for just this. The news of her death is chilling in its future consequences. They've got the bomb, India has the bomb, Iran wants to some day have the bomb. Wow. Like you said though time will tell if we usher in the hell.

[real6]

Have just posted about it.
I put it in the NEWS BEHIND THE NEWS thread because
this is not an isolated event.
The TIGER STORY on Christmas day is linked to this
one. It´s about war and oil and NUKES.
and BUSH very much connected again.

And the importance of these events are magnified
because of the CHRISTMAS DAYS.
the TIGER was from SAN FRANCISCO ZOO.

San Francisco is named after saint franciscus of ASSISI.
He was the patron saint of ANIMALS. Feast day is 4 October.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/4/4f/Sfzoologo.gif

the San FRANCISCO ZOO is

GREEN.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e3/Flag_of_Pakistan_(bordered).svg/600px-Flag_of_Pakistan_(bordered).svg.png

PAKISTAN is GREEN.

GREEN is the color of MONEY and the color of VENUS.
Venus or LUCIFER.

The SAN FRANCISCO ZOO was previously named

THE FLEISCHACKER ZOO.
Translated it means
The BUTCHER ZOO.

Fleisch in German is flesh. Hacker is crusher.
So a BUTCHERS ZOO.
Combine that with World animal day and
the BHUTTO killing.

BUTCHER to me looks not good.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/TheButcher.jpg

FRENCH movie the BUTCHER.
We see ORANGE.
Staphane Audran. French movie star in ORANGE.
Born 2 november, 112 or EUROPEAN ALARM number.
That movie was released on 27 Febraury , the day of the
REICHSTAG FIRE in Berlin.

That´s when HITLER´s rule started.

BUTHERS ZOO.
We have a famous BUTCHER in ENGLAND.
TERRY BUTCHER.
I googled Terry Butcher and I saw BLOOD ALL OVER.....

http://www.tractor-boys.com/Butcher%20blood.gif

Terry Butcher and BLOOD.
Born 28 DECEMBER.

we had the TIGER, BUTCHER story on 25 December, and today the 27th.
TERRY BUTCHER 28 December.....
Terry or TERROR......

http://www.interactiveselfstudy.com/Images/slaughterhouse5.jpg

BUTCHER´s ZOO and a SLAUGHTERHOUSE number 5.
Number of death.
KURT VONNEGUT died this year.
He was born on 11 NOVEMBER. 11.11.
ELEVEN , number of FOOLS and LEONARDO DI CAPRIO DAY.
Means TITANIC.




Illllllllllllllllllllll

[umbrex]

tbh bhutto was aking for it..

sure sure, democracy and all that, but lets look at the facts:

she lived in pakistan
she's a women
she had enemies in religious circles
she had enemies within the highest level of governement
she had a prior assassination attempt on her life which killed 100's
she still attended rally's after that

maybe it's harsh to say she was asking for it, but please, this cannot come as a surprise. i heard her say that democracy was reaching the people. if by reaching the people would put your own life at risk, thus risking lesser democracy by robbing the world of ones presence, is it then pro-democratic behaviour to stand up in crowds ?

i tend to think not.

if this is some illuminati ploy to shut up a truth sayer ? come on, get real, if the islamo fascists didnt want to get rid of her, musharraf did!

[umbrex]

You should drink BEER instead of WATER, wiseguy.

and maybe u should think for yourself instead of the google association-game u constantly play :)

[greenleaf]

At least four people have been shot dead in rioting as fears grow the country will be plunged into civil war

looks like this is going to kick off big style... quite scary for a Nuke powered country with no control and the US sat waiting on reaction with a solution they have already created and just wanting the right timing..

[emerald]

Let's get back to reality, let's be objective. She was a tool of the Americans, just like Musharraf is. Thirsty for power, she killed her own brother. Corrupted. She was revered like a dissident or a heroine which she wasnt, or just in appearance, little did she care of her own folk. Perhaps Uncle Sam didnt need her anymore and boom! Anyway everything thats goin on in the whole world and especially in the "red lamp neiborhood" called politics its better to be watched from the tribunes and always make sure u find easily the way out. Compared to how many Pakistanis died and keep dying coz of miserable life, attacks etc, her death equals zero. She got what she deserved. NWO has took out another ace out of the sleeve, B, Bhutto, to keep us busier and dumber in front of the TV sets and elseway.

[zarah]

It's my first post here, although Ive been a member for a lil while and reading the forum for a while longer than that.

The BBC, Sky and all of the other Zionist controlled media is pushing her death as the slaughter of a magnificent would be saviour of Pakistan instead of the expected killing of a corrupt and greedy politician who stole millions of dollars from the people she pretended to want to help.

Predictably her life'll be censored and she'll be remembered as some kind of martyr of 'democracy' and 'freedom', words which I heard uttered no less than 11 times in the space of a few minutes in a BBC 'interview' earlier this evening. Those 'uncivilised' lot in Asia will obviously be forced have the west's model of morality thrust upon them as they cant run their own affairs and Kashmir, which has lots of lovely natural resources, will be be home to a huge American base of 'freedom' before you can say 'dirty Muslim terrorists'.

[tintin]

It's my first post here, although Ive been a member for a lil while and reading the forum for a while longer than that.

The BBC, Sky and all of the other Zionist controlled media is pushing her death as the slaughter of a magnificent would be saviour of Pakistan instead of the expected killing of a corrupt and greedy politician who stole millions of dollars from the people she pretended to want to help.

Predictably her life'll be censored and she'll be remembered as some kind of martyr of 'democracy' and 'freedom', words which I heard uttered no less than 11 times in the space of a few minutes in a BBC 'interview' earlier this evening. Those 'uncivilised' lot in Asia will obviously be forced have the west's model of morality thrust upon them as they cant run their own affairs and Kashmir, which has lots of lovely natural resources, will be be home to a huge American base of 'freedom' before you can say 'dirty Muslim terrorists'.

Yep. I have counted once those key words
like Democracy, Freedom, Terror, etc,etc in a speech
by George Bush. Almost every sentence had those words....

They have warmed up us with PAKISTAN all the time
like it was PAKISTAN where Bin Laden was hiding.
And with all the MADRASSAS, a danger to the whole WORLD.

GREAT CONFIRMATION TODAY.
Benazir Bhutto stands for reason and tolerance.

THE EVIL MUSLIMS HAVE
KILLED THE FIRST FEMALE
LEADER IN AN ISLAM COUNTRY.

What does that mean?
That we are dealing with SUPERDANGEROUS
incredibly INTOLERANT TERRORISTS that are most
probably ready to throw NUKES at ISRAEL!!!
(any day now....)

Something like that.
Means ATTACKS on PAKISTAN and IRAN are BOTH JUSTIFIED!!

[waterbwoy]

Yep. I have counted once those key words
like Democracy, Freedom, Terror, etc,etc in a speech
by George Bush. Almost every sentence had those words....

They have warmed up us with PAKISTAN all the time
like it was PAKISTAN where Bin Laden was hiding.
And with all the MADRASSAS, a danger to the whole WORLD.

GREAT CONFIRMATION TODAY.
Benazir Bhutto stands for reason and tolerance.

THE EVIL MUSLIMS HAVE
KILLED THE FIRST FEMALE
LEADER IN AN ISLAM COUNTRY.

What does that mean?
That we are dealing with SUPERDANGEROUS
incredibly INTOLERANT TERRORISTS that are most
probably ready to throw NUKES at ISRAEL!!!
(any day now....)

Something like that.
Means ATTACKS on PAKISTAN and IRAN are BOTH JUSTIFIED!!

This sounds about right to me TinTin, I heard them mention Martial Law several times , and the BBC reporters are bare faced, They don't even look convinced

[dangermouse]

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/12/al_qaeda_takes_credi.php


Was guessing something like this was going to happen , when will they "find" the Iran link

[hirschfelder]

http://www.longwarjournal.org/archives/2007/12/al_qaeda_takes_credi.php

Based on the sophistication of the Bhutto assassination, al Qaeda and the Taliban were very likely assisted by infiltrators and sympathizers in the Pakistani military and Inter Services Intelligence agency.

Not looking too good for the incumbent military regime, although the President 'officially' stepped down from being head of the military last month. He was replaced by the head of the ISIA, mentioned above. He's reported to be "as 'pro-western as Musharaff", though

They played 'Auld Lang Syne' at the ceremony, couldn't they have chosen a song more appropriate to his allegiances? Maybe not

One for the Reptile lovers this; he referred to his GREEN army sash as his "SECOND SKIN"

The mind boggles as to what the real story is behind this one. I doubt they'd risk sending US/UK troops into another hostile zone though, there'd be too much of a backlash here

I imagine it could be as simple as Musharaff, an ally to the US/UK, making a few Michael Corleone moves, with a little help maybe

The man the Illuminati seem to favour as head of Pakistan, at least for now, has been given a mandate to suspend elections, crack down on 'extremists' and purge his military and secret services, all from a recently adopted non-military position, with his best mate now in that role!

Who knows how it will pan out, perhaps civil war. In any case, I doubt you'll see British or American troops involved, even in a 'peace keeping' capacity

Perhaps we'll see some kind of trial run for martial law? I could see Bush on the TV saying, "Y'all know, sometimes, we have to GIVE UP our freedom temporarily, in order to SECURE FREEDOM FOR OUR CHILDREN"

[truthcommission]

In cases like this there will no doubt be all sorts of conjecture and opinions flying around. What is important is to carefully examine some of the language of the so-called leaders IMMEDIATELY afterwards. As in events like 9/11 the public are so much more susceptible to the subtle forms of mind control and manipulation in the immediate aftermath.

To see the assassination of Bhutto as an isolated event which only concerns the people of a particular region of the world would be a very naive reaction. Conversely it is the seemingly unrelated and events leading up to the immediate situation which must be taken note of and symbolism behind it.

[the spackler]

You are rediculous if you believe that, too much free time me thinks.

HIS IDEAS ARE A LITTLE LOOSE BUT THERE IS MUCH TO BE SAID ABOUT "COINCIDENCES" LIKE THESE. THINKING LIKE A HUMAN BEING WILL GET YOU NOWHERE.

LOOK INTO SYNCHROMYSTICISM.:D

WWW.THEBRAVENEWWORLDORDER.BLOGSPOT.COM

THE 9-11 STARGATE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qUvSqY3po24


Exploring metaphysics, the occult and conspiracy theory using synchromysticism.

Synchromysticism: The art of realizing meaningful coincidence in the seemingly mundane with mystical or esoteric significance.

What if I told you that higher intelligences are attempting contact through a symbolic narrative embedded in the very fabric of space time?

My current belief system (for a lack of a better way to describe the way in which my views of the universe and god are evolving) tells me the universe is alive and communicating with us from every point in space time. This communication is far too elegant, elaborate and beautiful to be expressed with words and is there for all of us to see and interpret. You need only an open mind and the synchromystic* flow of the universe and world around you is revealed in stunning detail.

[steevo]

At least four people have been shot dead in rioting as fears grow the country will be plunged into civil war
looks like this is going to kick off big style... quite scary for a Nuke powered country with no control and the US sat waiting on reaction with a solution they have already created and just wanting the right timing..

That's what tptb want us to think so that they can justify some sort of "action" against Pakistan. Maybe they will start trade sanctions (if they havent already) because trade sanctions are only usually put in place because it directly benefits the USA financially.

It's my first post here, although Ive been a member for a lil while and reading the forum for a while longer than that.

The BBC, Sky and all of the other Zionist controlled media is pushing her death as the slaughter of a magnificent would be saviour of Pakistan instead of the expected killing of a corrupt and greedy politician who stole millions of dollars from the people she pretended to want to help.

Predictably her life'll be censored and she'll be remembered as some kind of martyr of 'democracy' and 'freedom', words which I heard uttered no less than 11 times in the space of a few minutes in a BBC 'interview' earlier this evening. Those 'uncivilised' lot in Asia will obviously be forced have the west's model of morality thrust upon them as they cant run their own affairs and Kashmir, which has lots of lovely natural resources, will be be home to a huge American base of 'freedom' before you can say 'dirty Muslim terrorists'.

A very good first post Zarah. I agree with you and it's all very worrying :(

This sounds about right to me TinTin, I heard them mention Martial Law several times , and the BBC reporters are bare faced, They don't even look convinced

Yes well said TinTin. Sounds like WW3 is gonna go into full effect soon. What worries me is that tptb are may use bilological weapons. The world has gone mad.

[brassneck69]

HIS IDEAS ARE A LITTLE LOOSE BUT THERE IS MUCH TO BE SAID ABOUT "COINCIDENCES" LIKE THESE. THINKING LIKE A HUMAN BEING WILL GET YOU NOWHERE.

LOOK INTO SYNCHROMYSTICISM.:D

WWW.THEBRAVENEWWORLDORDER.BLOGSPOT.COM

THE 9-11 STARGATE
http://youtube.com/watch?v=qUvSqY3po24


Exploring metaphysics, the occult and conspiracy theory using synchromysticism.

Synchromysticism: The art of realizing meaningful coincidence in the seemingly mundane with mystical or esoteric significance.

What if I told you that higher intelligences are attempting contact through a symbolic narrative embedded in the very fabric of space time?

My current belief system (for a lack of a better way to describe the way in which my views of the universe and god are evolving) tells me the universe is alive and communicating with us from every point in space time. This communication is far too elegant, elaborate and beautiful to be expressed with words and is there for all of us to see and interpret. You need only an open mind and the synchromystic* flow of the universe and world around you is revealed in stunning detail.


And all this higher state of communication is based on a game of googlewhack?

Who'd of thought of it eh???

[tinmenace]

For me one of the most interesting things that has come out of this is:

"Underscoring the concerns, a grim President Bush interrupted his vacation to personally condemn Bhutto's murder, demanding that those responsible be brought to justice and calling on Pakistanis to continue to press for democracy."

SOURCE (http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/12/27/us.pakistan.ap/)

What? Is this going to be another excuse for an invasion?

Then this from CFR Member, Daniel Markey:

"This latest tragedy is likely to reinforce beliefs that Pakistan is a dangerous, messy place and potentially very unstable and fragile and that they need to cling to Musharraf even more than they did in the past..."

Same SOURCE

:confused:

[hirschfelder]

I doubt there'll be an invasion, it would cause the UK to descend into utter chaos. The more I think about it, the more I think it's mainly about internal powerplays, though no doubt overseen by the ptb

There could be a broader, longer-term agenda for Pakistan. But in the short-term, I expect to see a period of turmoil for the country which will result in a clone-democracy compatible with and sympathetic to a One World Government, as far as is possible given the region's heritage and history

IT also has a border which could be of strategic importance if an invasion of Iran were to happen

But I still say the most important immediate consequence of this event will be the mandate for control given to Musharraf

We talk about New World Orders almost egotistically at times, but we'll be the first in the pen, there'll be far harder communities to co-erce and tame than the the west, not least places like Pakistan. Therefore, the fragments of 'news' you hear from these places ought, in my opinion, to be scrutinised just as much as any so-called 'terrorist atrocity' which befalls us at home

This has been the main news story here in the UK all day, they are reporting this for a reason. It's Act I of a new play which may or may not have a big impact on us

I'm also open to the opinion that she was simply a high profile politician wasted by a gun-toting suicide bomber in a country which coincidentally happens to be in a strategic region for alleged NWO global domination policy

[ravenswing]

Terror, terrorism, the mantra has been going on all day, whatever will come of this you can guarantee it has been worked out to their advantage. I too believe it is the start of something larger, a catalyst. Iran is their next target, maybe they just wanted to tie up the muslims in Pakistan in some sort of civil war so they will be too busy to protest at US invasion.

[on the road]

Im gutted that a human was killed.

but wtf is going on here ?

three possibilities

1) she was a wrong un (nwo) and the terrorists got her .

2) she was a good un and the nwo got her .

3) she was a wrong un (nwo) and the NWO got her.

Im going for 3 but I am gutted she got killed even if she was NWO. R.I.P

[tinmenace]

Definitely number 3

[banjaxo]

the guy is making fun of everyone with his absurdist posts...

not that a little humour is bad mind you...

its just believing his rants that makes me feel not too amused

[abrilliantone]

Let's get back to reality, let's be objective. She was a tool of the Americans, just like Musharraf is. Thirsty for power, she killed her own brother. Corrupted. She was revered like a dissident or a heroine which she wasnt, or just in appearance, little did she care of her own folk. Perhaps Uncle Sam didnt need her anymore and boom! Anyway everything thats goin on in the whole world and especially in the "red lamp neiborhood" called politics its better to be watched from the tribunes and always make sure u find easily the way out. Compared to how many Pakistanis died and keep dying coz of miserable life, attacks etc, her death equals zero. She got what she deserved. NWO has took out another ace out of the sleeve, B, Bhutto, to keep us busier and dumber in front of the TV sets and elseway.

Brilliantly put, bravo emerald :)

[megafish33]

A horrible loss... :(

[zarah]

Somehow the BBC managed to link the 'suicide bomber' from the op that's been labelled as '7/7' into reports of her death yesterday. I almost appluaded their audacity..cleverly pushing pictures of the person they claim caused havoc to London as a reminder that the lil room with the dodgy wall coverings he was videoed in was actually in Pakistan (full of EXREMISTS, dontcha know) on his last visit learning how to be a suicide bomber. Pure class. :D

[ssyx]

Terror, terrorism, the mantra has been going on all day,

Indeed.
Gordon Brown knew immediately that it was those pesky "terrorists".

[cheesedanish]

Was She not good friends with Princess Diana?

It seems the Illuminati like something bad to happen just after all
that 'feel good' vibes of Christmas so as so squash any high vibrations
people might be feeling.

Remember the Tsunami happend just after Christmas too....

[steevo]

Like some people have already said on this thread, maybe Musharaf is just be PLAYING the part of the "bad guy" so that the people of Pakistan (and India ?) can be wiped out in a chaotic war. It's a tactic tptb use when they want to reduce the populations and to cause chaos for the benefit of themselves so that they can forward their hidden agenda.

But why would Musharaf agree to play the bad guy ???:confused: Wont he be hung in the same way Saddam Hussein was (if indeed he was hung ?) ?

Btw Bhutto was a bad 'un IMO and was USED by the NWO to forward their agenda.

[johngr]

My thoughts are these. Every person that has been assasined in any way has been removed from this earth for just one singel reason and that is this. They know something very important and have had the ability to tell it to the world or at least tried to. So the NWO are frightened that they will expose the true agenda of a One nation under political terror and mass mind control so they have to remove them to secure theire agenda. This is how I see it. There is always a reason and I think it is pretty obvious that Benazir was murdered for the same reason as Diana was and JFK and Olof Palme and all the other that spoke of peace and liberalism. Even if they might have been part of a secret NWO agende themself thay has been assesined before they exposed the truth.
This is just my thoughts and I am pleased if anyone would correct me or even help me out here. Cause it seem to me that everytime a person tries to start peaceful work in this world they always end up dead.
Love and Peace to all .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIO8B6fpFSQ

Six minutes into the video.

[pri01]

Did I hear right? Osama Bin Laden has been murdered?

[tintin]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cd/Bbcnews24_bhuttokilled.jpg

This is a pic from WIKI.
Look at the time.

14.52.

Madeleine McCann was
1452 days old
when she disappeared.

Leonardo daVinci was born in the year 1452.
The DA VINCI CODE.

[tinmenace]

"Pakistan is the only Islamic state with a nuclear arsenal. And Washington has private concerns about the security of those weapons. Those worries will intensify in the wake of Benazir Bhutto's assassination. Peter Galbraith, of the Center for Arms Control and Non-Proliferation says one thing is certain: It is "not a good idea to have 70 nuclear weapons in the hands of a country that is falling apart."
TIME.COM (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1698562,00.html)



"The United States strongly condemns this cowardly act by murderous extremists who are trying to undermine Pakistan's democracy," Bush told reporters in Crawford, Texas, where he had arrived Wednesday to begin a long New Year's holiday. "Those who committed this crime must be brought to justice."
TIME.COM (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1698562,00.html)



Even more reason to invade and occupy Pakistan. They're "unstable", they have nuclear weapons, and well, we're the police-dog bullies of the world, so let's just go in and give them a helping hand...waddaya say? http://spiritual-nature.com/images/icon_likewhat.gif


Anyone ever wonder why Pakistan was ALLOWED to have nuclear capabilities? Maybe so that the the loomies could use that as an excuse to occupy them just until "things settle down". :rolleyes:

[tinmenace]

Officials: Al Qaeda claims responsibility for Bhutto killing

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The FBI and the Department of Homeland Security issued a bulletin Thursday citing an alleged claim of responsibility by al Qaeda for former Pakistani Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto's assassination, a DHS official told CNN.

But such a claim has not appeared on radical Islamist Web sites that regularly post such messages from al Qaeda and other militant groups.

The source of the claim was apparently Italian news agency, Adnkronos International (AKI), which said that al Qaeda Afghanistan commander and spokesman Mustafa Abu Al-Yazid had telephoned the agency to make the claim.

"We terminated the most precious American asset which vowed to defeat [the] mujahadeen," AKI quoted Al-Yazid as saying.

According to AKI, al Qaeda No. 2 Ayman al-Zawahiri set the wheels in motion for the assassination in October.

One Islamist Web site repeated the claim, but that Web site is not considered a reliable source for Islamist messages by experts in the field.

The DHS official said the claim was "an unconfirmed open source claim of responsibility" and the bulletin was sent out at about 6 p.m. to state and local law enforcement agencies.

The official characterized the bulletin as "information sharing."

Ross Feinstein, spokesman for Director of National Intelligence Mike McConnell, said the U.S. intelligence community is monitoring the situation and trying to figure out who is responsible for the assassination.

"We are not in a position to confirm who may be responsible," Feinstein said.

Feinstein said that the intelligence community "obviously analyze(s) open source intelligence," but he would not say whether the community believes the claim has any validity.

For now, he said, there is "no conclusion" as to who may be responsible.
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Earlier, DHS spokesman Russ Knocke said Bhutto's assassination had not prompted "any adjustments to our security posture."

"Of course, we continue to closely monitor events as they unfold overseas," he said.

SOURCE (http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/12/27/bhutto.dhs.alqaeda/index.html#cnnSTCText)



Pesky Al Qaeda! :rolleyes:


"We saw what they were capable of on 9/11, and well if they get their hands on Pakistan's nuclear weapons while the country is in turmoil...who knows might might happen...:eek: So, let's just go in and... just help out with getting the stability back...:rolleyes: I mean, we are HOMELAND SECURITY and FBI, and we'd never lie to you..." :rolleyes:

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/icon_alientransform.gif

[hagbard_celine]

Funny how the assassin always blows themselves up! This destroys the key witness, the perpetrator. Remember the same thing happened in India with Rajiv Gandhi.:rolleyes:

[tinmenace]

After the previous attempt on her life, just weeks ago, she sure was acting as though she'd had some kind of assurance that she was safe. Why else go out in public like that, less than two weeks before the election, and risk it all?

Her loomie buddies sacrificed her.

Next peace-keeping forces will be landing in Pakistan...to ensure that the nuclear weapons, which THEY created, don't fall into the wrong hands. :rolleyes:

:mad:

[tinmenace]

Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/) spinning like mad...take a look at this:

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/foxnewsbhutto.jpg


Nuclear Nation on BRINK! Y'all! On the freaking Brink!

How did they get to become a nuclear nation in the first place???

[hagbard_celine]

Someone probably killed her just to get this reaction.

Maybe if she'd been elected she'd have refused to cooperate with the Americans like Musharaf has.

[mcmenek1]

Hi,

This whole event has been staged managed by "The Powers That Be"...... the fact that Musharaf let Benazir Bhutto back into the country in the first place doesn't make sense because he knew that she would become a major political force.....Musharaf is controlled by "The Powers That Be" and he was ordered to let her back into the country so they could assassinate her at a critical time in the run up to the elections to destabilize the country and the region......

This whole event will be used at a catalyst for bigger thing to come........

Love
&
Peace

[vandalis]

I only heard about this about 4am last night when i randomly switched the tv on when i was about to play my PS3. Didnt really watch much of it because i knew they wernt telling the truth about what happend and who did it. I did know this was gonna happen eventually. I thought it would of been another "Bomber" though.

Were one step closer to the war with Iran. I think its about time a built that shelter in the back garden!

At least we know whats coming. Thank you Wernher von Braun!

[zander]

I found this today, quite an interesting read.


Was the Bush Administration Behind Benazir Bhutto Assassination?
by Mitch Battros - Earth Changes Media

It is being mentioned in high circles that US President George Bush was receiving heat for spending billions of dollars on propping the puppets of the Musharraf regime. It is believed that somewhere along the way Musharraf didn't want to continue this game of charades and was leaning more towards the care and needs of his people (in Pakistan) than to navigate the desires of the Bush regime.

It has been rumored that behind the scenes, Benazir Bhutto and Pervez Musharraf had come to some agreement to take back the sovereignty of Pakistan. Of course this action is the last thing the Bush regime would want, because it would usher in independence and promulgate a peace movement of the overwhelming percentage of Pakistanis who support an independent nation. It is said that if an agreement was to ensue between Bhutto and Musharraf, a natural wage (or surge) would quell anti- Pakistan sentiments brought forth by al-Qaeda types.

It is suggested the last thing the Bush regime would want is a stable independent Pakistan. No conflict - no war - no defense contract - no money.

Actually we have seen this very same scenario played-out with every dictator put in place by the US government. In fact, George Bush (41) was caught in this same situation with Manuel Noriega Presidential dictator of Panama from 1983 to 1989.

Noriega was put in power by the Bush regime (41) , then Noriega just as Musharraf, decided he didn't want to play this game anymore, and wanted to return sovereignty back to the people of Panama. "Operation Just Cause" was the U.S. military invasion of Panama that deposed General Manuel Noriega in December 1989. General Manuel Noriega was at one time a U.S. ally, who was increasingly using Panama to facilitate drug trafficking for the CIA, from South America to the United States. In the 1980s, Dictator Manuel Noriega was one of the most recognizable names in the United States, being constantly covered by the press.

Another puppet of the US installed puppeteer school was Saddam Hussein, again placed by the CIA and worked closely with George Bush (41). While many have thought that Saddam first became involved with U.S. intelligence agencies at the start of the September 1980 Iran-Iraq war, his first contacts with U.S. officials date back to 1959, when he was part of a CIA-authorized six-man squad tasked with assassinating then Iraqi Prime Minister Gen. Abd al- Karim Qasim.

Just as with Noriega -- Hussein, although a brutal dictator, also decided he no longer wanted to play the game doing the bidding as another US stooge. More on CIA-Bush-Hussein Here:

Then there was the 2004 Bush (43) regime and his US led coup against President Jean- Bertrand Aristide of HAITI. Here even CNN discloses the shear veil outing a US led coup orchestrated by the Bush regime.

"I was told that to avoid bloodshed I'd better leave," Aristide said in an interview on CNN. Earlier, the Bush administration vigorously denied that Aristide was kidnapped by U.S. troops, which is what two U.S. members of Congress said the deposed Haitian president told them in telephone calls.

But Rep. Charles Rangel, D-New York, and Rep. Maxine Waters, D-California, said Aristide told them a very different story. Waters said Mildred Aristide, the ex-president's wife, called the congresswoman at her home at 6:30 a.m. (9:30 a.m. ET) Monday, and told her "the coup d'etat has been completed," and then handed the phone to her husband.

Waters said that Aristide told her the chief of staff of the U.S. Embassy in Haiti came to his home, told him that he would be killed "and a lot of Haitians would be killed" if he did not leave and said he "has to go now."
CNN Report Here: and Democr acy Now Interview Here:

Haitian President Aristide was fighting for the rights of the Haitian people and against slave labor supported by the Bush regime. It seems companies such as Wal-Mart, Disney, Sears, Kmart, and J.C. Penney lobbied the Bush regime to maintain their 8 cents per hour wages. This was being threatened by a determined advocate for the Haitian people and of course big business just won't stand for that.
NY Times Report Here:

It would appear Aristide, who was originally set up by the US government, realized he was propped as a stooge for corporate greed, and fought back. That's when the CIA, and later US military was called in to snuff him out. Also see: The U.S.-Haiti Connection


Bush - CIA - Bhutto - Musharraf

Are you ready to 'follow-the-bouncing-ball'? Are we not seeing the same thread weaved through Iraq, Panama, Haiti, and now Pakistan. Was the Bush regime behind the assassination of an independent thinker with vision and a passion to return power back to the people of Pakistan? Was this a warning to Musharraf to "play ball" or you're next? Did India have to sign-off on this for it to play? Like all the others, we will probably never know.

I guess George bubba Bush (43) said it best ---- " you are either with me, or you are with the terrorists. Now what's it going to be? "

But not all countries have fallen to US manipulation driven by self-seeking greedy corporations. Although the odds are certainly against them, but we can now understand why America's own citizens might have a silent cheer when the bully on the block gets kicked in the nuts by a much smaller but defiant underdog.

Some high placed sources have hinted something to the effect of: "This should get the attention of Musharraf for not following our plan after funding him over $10 billion dollars." In fact, here is a quote from an AP article: 'Benazir Bhutto's assassination in Pakistan is likely to prompt calls for a close review of U.S. policy toward a country crucial to regional stability and the war on terrorism. Such a review is overdue, considering the minimal results from the $10 billion in U.S. aid funneled to President Pervez Musharraf's government since 2001.'

And what does bubba Bush have to say?: President Bush blames "murderous extremists" for the attack. (AP) Okay, I think we get the picture now-----


www.earthchangesmedia.com (http://www.earthchangesmedia.com)

[shelflife]

Seems they have now erm, changed their mind - there were no shots fired!

[shelflife]

Brown "steps-up" efforts to defeat terrorism in Pakistan and after speaking to Bush quoted as "It is clear that we must take immediate action and we will give whatever help we can". GULP !

[bicycle]

This was the second attempt on her life since returning to Pakistan in October. The first attempt was staged to provide sympathy for her campaign and to overthrow the current government. What happened today was the retaliation from either the Rothschilds or the Romanovs. Of course, the January election has been either postponed or cancelled, ensuring that the current regime remains in power.

[snilp]

Hello all, I am a long time reader, but just felt compelled to sign up and begin posting on the forums so that I can share my opinion of all this with ya'll. I believe we may be tempted to look at this most recent situation incorrectly, because they anticipate us to apply the formulas of their previous tactics to this ever evolving game of deception.

The powers that be seem to have been quite conveniently busted with what the 'sheeple' have construed as a "build up to war with Iran". However, being the constant doubter of main stream media that I am, I find myself wondering why they are allowed to report on the "build up to war with Iran", and the only answer I have been able to come up with is naturally, only more questions. Perhaps the whole Iran thing was merely to stir up public ill-sentiment towards countries that may 'possibly have nuclear weaponry or have the ability to make such weaponry'? In the light of those sentiments, I am sure we can all see how 'ensuring the stability of a nuclear power like Pakistan' could quicly take a front seat to Iran in all this action, especially with the recent 'martyrdom of a democratic leader'... I am sure that I don't need to tell you guys and gals the effect that assassinated leaders can have on this game of mass manipulation.

While watching some "news" earlier, I am already seeing the new mantra develop. It seems to be starting out with "Pakistan, Al Qaeda, Pakistan, Al Qaeda".. and already is even starting to morph in to "Pakistan, Al Qaeda, Nuclear Arsenal, Rogue Military Factions". So where is good ol' Georgey going with this? Perhaps just a small puzzle piece in the road to world war 3 that he has begun to lay out for us? CNN (The Cerpent News Network) already told me in a header tonight that "Pakistan: Terror Central".

So could the "build up with Iran" possibly have been simply a case of testing the waters of the mindfuck of "forced nuclear nonproliferation in the interest of national security"?

So maybe 'they' allowed themselves to get caught with the 'war drums beating towards Iran', so that also the public would begin to feel like we know the cards that Bush is trying to play.. Do they want us to have a false sense of confidence over Bush, so that they will still be able to march our brothers and sisters to new battlefield trenches of sacrifice while we sit around cockily thinking that the media is actually keeping an eye on these thugs in power?

It is starting to seem to me, that if any of you peoples are still buying in to the idea that Bush got caught trying to conduct a war march towards Iran, then you are looking at this the way that they want you to... Most certainly, if Bush ever was trying to go to war with Iran, he wouldn't allow his thoroughly infiltrated media to report on it.... So what is the true objective?

[synergy777]

goro adachi had predicted a major event in pakistan since 11/9 or 9/11, 9th of november. everything is a code/planned ritual, whether we can perceive/understand it or not.

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/

http://www.goroadachi.com/etemenanki/notes_nov-dec07.htm

11/09: Terminator runs through California (inferno) and Pakistan...

11/13: Continuing to watch Pakistan closely...
11/12: Pakistan's Musharraf given November 22 deadline

From 'St. Anthony Code' (Oct 18): 'Without going into too much detail, the design was basically emphasizing the November 22/January 20 twin dates...'

Think 'Orange Revolution' (Ukraine)... or revolution in general. This is not only about Pakistan. Things are actually progressing toward the ~January 20 key date. Intense month...

11/14: Revolution/Deep Impact - January 2008. Key windows early January and around January 21 (mirroring around Nov. 20-22). We're also still closely monitoring (since July) the scenario of Atlantis STS-122 repeating Apollo 13/Columbia in December (not necessarily literal though the potential is clearly there; STS-123 relevant as well).

11/19: Note the Pakistan elections planned for January 8 coinciding with the New Hampshire Primary (US presidential) currently scheduled for January 8. While these dates may not hold, something very significant is going on with these elections/polls early January (including the Iowa Caucus on Jan. 3rd). The underlying theme is, again, 'Orange Revolution'. The window - and pretty much the entire month - is also somehow directly or indirectly 'nuclear' in nature and generally 'Deep Impact'. Here is an important fact you're probably not aware of yet: NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft is flying toward us and is set to fly by Earth on/around December 31. That's symbolically huge... and an ominous way to start the New Year. And that's just the tip of the iceberg

11/22: November 22 headlines...

This is a striking confirmation of the pattern we've been tracking involving Pakistan and 'Orange Revolution' (see previous notes below), as we see today on the 3rd anniversary of the beginning of the Ukraine Orange Revolution...

Orange Revolution (beginning) anniversary (11/22/04)
11/21-22 US top story: three arrested in Holloway/Aruba case (Aruba's capital is Oranjestad or 'Orange City' and is part of the Netherlands historically ruled by the 'House of Orange')

Pakistan court upholds Musharraf election (challenge rejected)
Commonwealth decision on Pakistan suspension coming today

UPDATE: Pakistan barred from Commonwealth
- The Pakistan president Musharraf's re-election on October 6 was contested, not unlike the Orange Revolution, and did not finalize until today, November 22, the anniversary of the start of the Orange Revolution, when the court rejected the final legal challenge to the election.

- According to the timecode we've been following, the ~Nov. 22 window is to be mirrored with much more intensity around January 20-24 ('equidistant' from the winter solstice) which marks the anniversary of the conclusion of the Ukraine Orange Revolution (Victor Yushchenko inaugurated on Jan 23) and is 'magically' marked by a celestial 'Orange Alignment' (Venus-Sun-Mercury around January 21). There are other things that make the window and the entire month... with an ominous 'Deep Impact' window early January very special.

- Things are evolving so that we'll see an interesting interaction between the Pakistan general election and the US presidential primaries/caucuses in January which should be 'revolutionary' in nature. The 'nuclear' thing will probably emerge/start around that time along with the idea of a Trojan/World War.

Enough said for now.

11/28: By the way, 'Orange' (Holloway/Aruba) on Turkey Day (Thanksgiving/Nov. 22) which was also the anniversary of Ukraine's Orange Revolution was a not-so-subtle allusion to the genesis of the 'Trojan War' as it was mythologically the golden apple ('Apple of Discord') of the 'Judgment of Paris' (goddess beauty contest) that led to the great ancient World War involving Troy which is today's Turkey, and in many languages 'orange' means 'golden apple'. Orange + Turkey = genesis of Trojan War. That's the ominous storyline and Pakistan (elections in January) is clearly part of it

11/30 (#1): Here we go... another major 'Trojan War' signal.
11/30 Passenger plane crashes in Turkey

** Turkey is today's 'Troy'. And the plane belonged to 'Atlasjet'. In Greek mythology 'Atlas' is closely associated with the golden apple (= 'orange')! The golden apples were grown in the Garden of the Hesperides near the Atlas Mountains where Hercules went to steal golden apples from Atlas holding up the heavens on his shoulders.

Troy/Trojan and the golden apple are thus brought together by the crash, becoming another 'omen' hinting at the start of the Trojan War originally caused by the golden apple or 'Apple of Discord'.

It was even 'nuclear' in nature... seemingly confirming what I said before associating the Trojan War theme with something nuclear. [See previous notes below for more.] **

11/30 Nuclear expert among dead

I should note the Orange Revolution happened in Ukraine, famous for its Chernobyl nuclear disaster.

11/30 (#2): Surreal...
11/30 Gunman in standoff at Clinton '08 New Hampshire office [suspect initially identified as ** 'Troy Stanley'**

'Troy' (=> Trojan/Turkey) and a hostage situation... only hours after the 'Trojan crash' in Turkey... (see previous note below). Update: Hillary Clinton is the senator of New York; NYC = the 'Big Apple'.

** It was the abduction of Helen by Paris who gave the golden apple/Apple of Discord to Aphrodite that directly led to the ancient world war called the Trojan War. **

12/05: All still pointing to Atlantis STS-122 as being an important mission echoing 'Columbia'. Whether Atlantis itself will follow the fate of shuttle Columbia/Apollo 13 or it will forward the storyline to something else (like 'Deep Impact' stuff in January)... we'll just have to see. Today's Omaha events were the latest clue... (UPDATE: NASA Delays Shuttle Launch to January After Fuel Sensor Glitch; NASA now targets January 10 for Atlantis launch)

12/13: Behold... the Eye of Horus/Ra:


Countdown to Deep Impact Earth flyby - December 31, 2007


12/17: Watching Dec. 18 with great interest...
Dec 18: Mars closest to Earth
Dec 18-19: Approx. Mars-Earth-Sun-Mercury-Jupiter-Pluto alignment
Dec 18 : Saturnalia (role reversal tradition)
Dec 18: Sun exits Ophiuchus
Dec 18: St. Sebastian feast day (Eastern Orthodox)
These are very meaningful, especially together.


12/18: Another 'Trojan War day' today - just like back on November 30 when the Sun entered the constellation Ophiuchus. Today, the Sun exited Ophiuchus.
Dec 18 Turkish troops 'cross into Iraq' (Kurds vs. Turkey; Turkey = 'Troy')
Dec 18 Rice visits disputed region in Iraq (Kurds; vs. Turkey)
Dec 18 Iraq's Kurdish leader snubs Rice (Kurds vs. Turkey)
Dec 18 Turkish troops withdraw from Iraq (Kurds vs. Turkey)
Dec 18 Charges dismissed in Holloway case (Orange/'golden apple' => Trojan War)
Update Dec 18 Orange Revolution leader picked for Ukraine PM (orange = 'golden apple' => Trojan War)



Ophiuchus is said to represent Laocoön, a Trojan priest who warned his city against the wooden horse ('Trojan Horse') presented by the Greeks at the end of the Trojan War. This is what was behind the Nov. 30 Trojan War signals and why I I posted the note yesterday (see below) noting the Sun exiting Ophiuchus (12/18), accompanied by a lot of other relevant 'coincidences'.

** Note how St. Sebastian feast day - 12/18 Eastern Orthodox, 1/20 Catholic - is pointing ahead to that familiar Jan. 20-24 window featuring an Orange Alignment (1/21) and Atlantis STS-122 landing (1/21 as of today).

12/20: The winter solstice December 22 and Christmas, while not the main focus of the time code we've been following since summer, is still interesting this year. The bridge collapse in Minnesota August 1st (a major signpost event), for instance, was esoterically about the combination of Minneapolis and St. Paul (= Twin Cities) - see 'St. Antony Code' - the latter alluding to Sao Paulo (= 'Saint Paul'), which sits right on the Tropic of Capricorn, signifying the angle of the winter-solstice Sun. (Since August 15 we're more focused on its 'twin city' Rio nearby.)

As for Christmas (originally about the winter solstice) we've had things like:

Deadliest 2007 Atlantic storm 'Noel' - meaning 'Christmas'

Nataleee Holloway - 'Natalee' meaning 'Christmas Day'

Minnesota = 'North Star State'; North Star directly above North Pole where Santa resides

The big theme of 2007, 'Grail/Templar/Solar Resurrection' (interchangeable with the death and resurrection of 'Jesus'), also highlights the winter solstice where the Sun 'dies' and is 'reborn' as per tradition and Christmas, the (re-)birthday of Jesus the 'Sun king'. Winter solstice/Christmas 2007 is a symbolic marker for the ** Solar Minimum ** now arriving... likely early 2008, accompanied by 'Deep Impact' stuff.

These also have much to do with the twin weather disasters we saw early November...



In case you haven't noticed, this basically represents the 'fulfillment' of a pattern projection made in 'The St. Anthony Code' where it said:

Watch for a potential St. Anthony Bridge collapse echo around November 1 and a intense 'kamikaze' [= [U]'divine wind'] event around November 7.

The winter solstice coming up is also 'Chicago'...

12/22: Here we go - 'January Deep Impact' storyline emerging as expected...
(surprisingly literal this, regardless of whether or not it will actually hit Mars):


12/20-21: Scientists: Asteroid could hit Mars in January


See repeated references to 'Deep Impact' January in my recent notes below...

And on the winter solstice, it's 'Trojan War' again...

Dec 22 Turkey in fresh Iraq air strikes

12/25: Surprised?
Dec 25 Hundreds missing after Nepal bridge collapse


Here's from my Dec. 20 note (emphasis added):

12/20: The winter solstice December 22 and Christmas, while not the main focus of the time code we've been following since summer, is still interesting this year. The bridge collapse in Minnesota August 1st (a major signpost event), for instance, was esoterically about the combination of Minneapolis and St. Paul (= Twin Cities) - see 'St. Antony Code' - the latter alluding to Sao Paulo (= 'Saint Paul'), which sits right on the Tropic of Capricorn, signifying the angle of the winter-solstice Sun. [...] ...Christmas (originally about the winter solstice)...

That would be the pattern you're seeing manifested today... along with the continuation of the 'Trojan War' theme:

Dec 25 Turk Iraq raids 'killed hundreds'

****

12/27: 'Deep Impact' first wave arriving...
Dec 27 Pakistan's Bhutto assassinated

From recent Etemenanki notes (emphasis added):

11/09: Terminator runs through California (inferno) and Pakistan...

11/13: Continuing to watch Pakistan closely... Things are actually progressing toward the ~January 20 key date. Intense month...

11/19: Note the Pakistan elections planned for January 8 coinciding with the New Hampshire Primary (US presidential) currently scheduled for January 8. While these dates may not hold, something very significant is going on with these elections/polls early January (including the Iowa Caucus on Jan. 3rd). The underlying theme is, again, 'Orange Revolution'. The window - and pretty much the entire month - is also somehow directly or indirectly 'nuclear' in nature and generally 'Deep Impact'. Here is an important fact you're probably not aware of yet: NASA's Deep Impact spacecraft is flying toward us and is set to fly by Earth on/around December 31. That's symbolically huge... and an ominous way to start the New Year. And that's just the tip of the iceberg.

11/22: ...Things are evolving so that we'll see an interesting interaction between the Pakistan general election and the US presidential primaries/caucuses in January which should be 'revolutionary' in nature. The 'nuclear' thing will probably emerge/start around that time along with the idea of a Trojan/World War.

11/28: ...Orange + Turkey = genesis of Trojan War. That's the ominous storyline and Pakistan (elections in January) is clearly part of it.


also:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/

Killing Bhutto: What happens now in Pakistan Despite British Prime Minister Gordon Brown saying Benazir Bhutto’s killers were “cowards afraid of democracy” her legacy is not a pretty one. Omer Subhani explains why as he reflects on the likely outcome of her death

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7757

What happens now in Pakistan
Omer Subhani – Counterpunch December 27, 2007

1. I have to start off with my recent perceptions of her. She was a corrupt politician who was more interested in her political legacy than in the welfare of her nation and people. President Bush said today that Bhutto was someone who fought against terrorism. She did so, conveniently, post 9-11. During the mid 1990s she was openly pro-Taliban as the Pakistani government was one of the few nations in the world that recognized that neo-Khawarij regime.

2. Her death could cause major problems for Pakistan, but I think Musharraf will be smart about this and will likely move to some sort of martial law system in order to curb violence and unrest. He needs to postpone elections only briefly because otherwise his opponents will claim he is attempting to block the political process.

3. I was surprised somewhat by the coverage of Bhutto in the US press this morning. CNN changed her picture three times this morning around 8:45 AM. Every picture tried to portray her as some sort of fallen angel. Again, this is a woman who sold out her people in order to increase her bank account as well as killing her political opponents.

4. Pakistan and Democracy: what happens now? Nawaz Sharif is a nobody. Musharraf is on thin ice. Who will lead Pakistan? It's a very grim situation there, but one thing is for certain: most Pakistanis are moderate people who are inclined to Western values of democracy and freedom in their truest sense. They are progressive and liberal in many facets. Extremism does not have a great hold in Pakistan, but what should be rightfully feared is that someone in the military who is pro-Taliban & al-Qaeda will take over as Musharraf did. I don't think that's a likely possibility, but it is a possibility nonetheless. Pakistanis need to regroup and really rally for democracy.

5. I am disgusted with the US media. Their coverage of Bhutto as some sort of martyr is despicable and inappropriate. Man, she really did a good job of portraying herself as some sort of beacon of hope for Pakistan. This woman was liable to be arrested at any moment by Interpol because of all the money laundering she and her husband were involved in with 3 to 4 different countries. She was a crook, plain and simple, yet our wonderful press is making her out to be the next Mother Teresa. This is like if Michael Vick was trying to run for Senator of Georgia ten years from now and then he was murdered and all anyone was talking about was how great a football player he was without any mention of his dog fighting crimes. This is so Orwellian.

6. Bhutto's legacy: The impression she has left is one of a woman standing up for democracy and fighting against extremism. This is how she will likely be seen until Armageddon. Dissidents and progressives who actually know something about her history will know better. She fought for democracy when convenient for her, but when she was in power assassinations of opponents and corruption were the way of life for her. She was a crook and while she did not deserve such a horrible ending to her life we should all remember that this is a person who cared only for herself and her bank account.

7. My research at Harvard led me to believe that Bhutto would not last long in Pakistan. Unfortunately for her my research proved correct. Musharraf barely made it out alive on two major assassinations attempts a few years ago, while he has had many others. Musharraf's security was arranged by the Pakistani Army and the attempts on his life demonstrated that the Army had been infiltrated by Taliban and al-Qaeda sympathizers. So if he had the best security around and was almost killed then how could Bhutto possibly stay alive? She didn't as we unfortunately see today.


Omer Subhani is a candidate for a Ph. D. in History at Boston University. He can be reached at: OS21@aol.com

www.counterpunch.org/subhani12272007.html

the west's view of her is very different to the pakistani's peoples view. she stole billions and nearly bankrupted the country. she was an elite fraudster in some peoples eyes. the *hit* was of a high calibre, definately intelligence agency standard.

[steevo]

Was Bhutto a popular character amongst the people of Pakistan ?
When you see those films of when she visited Pakistan recently, there was no wide angle view of her near the crowds. It was obviously a very small "rent a crowd" like they used to do on the faked news reports on the TV show "Drop the dead Donkey".

She was educated at Oxford University and Harvard University and was obviously groomed to be part of the Elite. To me she seemed to be working for the NWO, so I dont think she ever had the best interests of Pakistan at heart, so there were probably plenty of opportunity for her to make enemies.
On the news yesterday, a guest on the tv news said that she was involved in BIG corruption when she was in power BUT "it comes with the terrirtory" in which she meant that it's the norm for the President to be corrupt cos it's a perk of the job :eek:

On the news just now it said that there is evidence now that it may NOT be Al Quaida who killed Bhutto but "rogue members" of the Pakistan secret services, the evidence they have is "intercepted phone calls" :rolleyes:

I still think she was sacrificed by the NWO and I find it hard to believe that SUICIDE bombers always seem to be responsible EVERY bombing that happens. I mean how do they KNOW so quickly ? In Baghdad they always say it was a suicide bomber when in reality IMO it's probably the special ops who are doing it to cause chaos and to brainwash usinto thinking that there is a civil war going on.

[synergy777]

special ops, to cause unrest. pakistan has a huge arsenal of nukes, which could be "stolen" by al ciada and used in india, iran or israel, giving casus belli for bush.

either al ciada will use them, or they set them against india, as pakistan/osama all want to take over my motherland of india. osama's number one target was never america, he wanted india and east africa eg sudan/somalia. as this is the ancestral home of asiatics (indians, iranians, pakistanis, arabs, palestinians etc) ever since the fall of mughal empire, and then the partition (theft of ancient indian lands, by elite controlled muslims) they have waged war against us. they even attacked our houses of parliment a couple of years ago.

this stuff goes deep, its ingrained in us. i feel the tipping piint is coming soon, 2008 will be monumental. muslims have to realise they are so controlled by the elite, its not even funny. them and christians will be the main tools of the elite, and if you look, its these two who get killed the most in all wars. the vatican uses them.

the two that sit back are vedic religions (hinduism/buddhism/sikhism) and the jews.

also did you notice bhutto saying osama was murdered, maybe the elite got pissed at her, that their "phantom menace" was revealed, lol local stories suggets he died ages ago due to kidney failure, hence the "adobe special tapes", which he grows younger, dyes his hair and wear exactly the same clothes, in a peroid of over 5 years, awesome, he should have deals with loreal etc.

[challand]

I think it is obvious she was killed by Musharraf.

First of all, he has the most to gain from her death.

Second, before her body was cold Bush was blaming this on Al-CIAda. :rolleyes:

[hirschfelder]

Talksport, a British tabloid radio sport news composite station thing, have just changed the main story on their hourly news bulletin (which incidentally comes from SKY)

#The lead since at least 6pm has been 'Pakistani people doubt official al-quaeda claims' but has just been changed back to 'al-quaeda admit Bhutto assasination'

[synergy777]

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7687

Who killed Benazir Bhutto? The main suspects


by Jeremy Page

Global Research, December 27, 2007
The Times


The main suspects in Benazir Bhutto’s assassination are the Pakistani and foreign Islamist militants who saw her as a heretic and an American stooge and had repeatedly threatened to kill her.

But fingers will also be pointed at Inter-Services Intelligence, the agency that has had close ties to the Islamists since the 1970s and has been used by successive Pakistani leaders to suppress political opposition.

Ms Bhutto narrowly escaped an assassination attempt in October, when a suicide bomber killed about 140 people at a rally in the port city of Karachi to welcome her back from eight years in exile.

Earlier that month, two militant warlords based in Pakistan's lawless northwestern areas, near the border with Afghanistan, had threatened to kill her on her return.

One was Baitullah Mehsud, a top commander fighting the Pakistani army in the tribal region of South Waziristan. He has close ties to al Qaeda and the Afghan Taleban.

The other was Haji Omar, the “amir” or leader of the Pakistani Taleban, who is also from South Waziristan and fought against the Soviets with the Mujahideen in Afghanistan.

After that attack Ms Bhutto revealed that she had received a letter signed by a person who claimed to be a friend of al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden threatening to slaughter her like a goat.

She accused Pakistani authorities of not providing her with sufficient security and hinted that they may have been complicit in the bomb attack. Asif Ali Zardari, her husband, directly accused the ISI of being involved in that attempt on her life.

Mrs Bhutto stopped short of blaming the Government directly, saying that she had more to fear from unidentified members of a power structure that she described as allies of the “forces of militancy”.

Analysts say that President Musharraf himself is unlikely to have ordered her assassination, but that elements of the army and intelligence service would have stood to lose money and power if she had become Prime Minister.

The ISI, in particular, includes some Islamists who became radicalised while running the American-funded campaign against the Soviets in Afghanistan and remained fiercely opposed to Ms Bhutto on principle.

Saudi Arabia, which has strong influence in Pakistan, is also thought to frown on Ms Bhutto as being too secular and Westernised and to favour Nawaz Sharif, another former Prime Minister.


Global Research Articles by Jeremy Page

[synergy777]

thanks to unhived mind.

hers a transcript of the youtube video, where bhutto spills the beans. osama was killed.

http://z13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/index.php?showtopic=39398&st=15

Transcript of the youtube video.

But first, Pakistan. And Benazir Bhutto. When the former Prime Minister arrived back in the country two weeks ago after eight years in exile, the homecoming parade was literally blown apart by an assassination attempt. A suicide bomber exploded a bomb meters from Bhutto's open top bus and killed more than a hundred and thirty people. Benazir, hello and welcome.

Thank you David.

Tell me has that assassination attempt, affected your choice to carry on this battle?

No. That incident in which many innocent men women and babies died has made me more determined. I believe Pakistan is under increasing threat of an extremist takeover. To save the country, we must restore democracy and restore people's faith in government and move the country forward.

How do your children feel about this? They know the risks you take.

This is one of the reasons I travel from Kerachi to Dubai. I wanted to console my children. I couldn't come right after the blast because we had to tend to the wounded and console the families. I came here to be with them. They were asleep when the midnight blasts took place and in the morning they got text messages from friends saying we hope your mother is better. They were upset. Their father came in and said he had something to tell them, but they said, 'we already know.' They are coping and they worry. But they want me to continue. They understand I am doing this for the people of Pakistan.

That story underlies the fact of children getting information before us.

Not only our children but what has really in a sense...[unintelligible]a burden of responsibility. One of the mothers who lost her sons in this attack in Kerachi has just volunteered her other son to join up as one of my security guards. When our party boys told her she didn't have to do it, she said "that the only hope that we have is that she succeeds. Now that is why I want to send my second son to be her security guard."

Do you have any idea who was responsible for this attempt? There was one report saying you arranged to send President Musharaff a letter to be sent in the event of your death by assassination urging him to investigate certain people in his government?

Yes, I wrote to General Masharaff. I received information from general Musharaff that a friendly country had passed on to them some information that I could be attacked by a gang from the Afghan warlord Massoud, or by Hamsa Bin Laden, son of Osama Bin Laden, or by the pakistani taliban in Islamabad, or by a group in Kerachi. I sent back a letter saying while these groups may be used, we must go after the groups who supported them, organized them, who could possibly be the financers, or the organizers of the finance for those groups. I named three people who I thought were their sympathizers. I realize I could be wrong and that my suspicious could be misplaced, but these are the ones I suspect want to stop democracy and stop my return. Because they know in 1993, when Pakistan was on the brink of being declared a terrorist state, I stopped the rise of terrorism. They know I can do it again. These forces want to stop the will of the people from triumphing.

In terms of these three people you mentioned, were they members of or associated with the government?

One of them is a key figure in security. He is a former military officer. He has had dealings with Jeshu Mohammad (sp?) one of the band groups at Wolana Assir, who was in an Indian jail for decapitating three British tourists and three Ameican tourists. He also had dealings with Oma Sheik (sp?) the man who murdered Osama Bin Laden. Now I know that having dealings with people doesn't mean direct evidence. But I know that Internal Security has collapsed in Pakistan. And internal security cannot collapse without there being some blind eye if not collusion being turned toward the rise of militants. Not only are the tribal areas out of our control, even the beautiful valley of Swath is now under takeover by Islamists. I would like to see a police inquiry assisted by Scotland Yard or the FBI, come in, use their forensics to find out the perpetrators and financers and organizers to find out who killed these one hundred and fifty eight innocent people.

Have you spoken to Musharaff since that tragedy?

Yes, he was gracious. He had the director of the Inter Services Intelligence ring me up the first evening to condemn the incident. he phoned me the next morning saying he and the prime minister had been watching my reception from the beginning. was sorry about the blast. He condemned the blast and expressed his sorrow. But he was worried that my party naming security official could hamper the reproachment process. And I said it was not my intent to do so. I did want to see a peaceful transition to democracy through fair, free and impartial elections. I also felt it was important to have an independent inquiry that gave me confidence and to have impartial, politically neutral people in key positions in government in the caretake or transit [unintelligible]

You still feel that you can do business with Musharaff. That hasn't been affected by this tragedy. The two of you could still work together?

Well David, I think we need to see to this in ongoing negociations. We both have the desire to work together. While we have the principles sorted out, we need to sort out the modalities. I am asking myself how a PPP government, if the people elect us, can actually cope if it can not have officials in Internal Security who we feel have no links to militants and their supporters. If I was the target of an attack, and I can't even file a police complaint because the government won't let me to file it, then what would this reproachment mean? An effective transition or the continuation of the status quo. I am interested in an effective transition and I am willing to explore with General Musharaff the modalities with which we can have for an effective transition. But I am not willing to be the icing on the cake of it's a poisoned cake full of the kind of system that in the last five years has seen terrorism rise in Pakistan but also nearby. And it's effects on NATO troops and even beyond in Europe.

In terms of what happens next, has there been any progress in terms of you or anyone being allowed to have three terms as Prime Minister?

I have discussed with my party members what has been confidentially assured to us. But they know we expect a resolution of this issue at the opportune time. What I care about now is an investigation, a Pakistan police investigation assisted by the international community with forensic science, to unmask the perpatrators financers, organizers and sponsors of this terrorism. I'm not just saying this because it was an attack on me. The locality where the chairman joint chiefs of army staffs lives was attacked two days bacl. An airforce bus was attacked yesterday. People in market places are killed. Unless we get to the fainancers, perpetrators and organizers, we can not frighten them into accepting responsibility for their crimes. They kill people and think they won't have to go to jail and answer before a judge. That's wrong.

What if the supreme court says that the election of president musharaff was valid but he still kept wearing his army uniform? Would that be a problem for you?

General Musharaff and I discussed this issue during our negociations. it was decided we would accept the decision of the supreme court of pakistan. I am on public as saying this before my return to Pakistan that as far as the Pakistan People's Party goes, we will not resign from the assemblies in protest over Musharaff's re-election as President. We have a different view on its legality, but we will back the supreme court no matter what it says on Musharaff's legality. We expect that the supreme court will allow him to continue but ask him to retire as Army Chief and seek a re-affirmation vote from the next assembly.

If he kept wearing the uniform it would be a problem for you and for the supreme court?

Yes, it would be a problem for me. For the supreme court of Pakistan. And it would probably demoralize the armed forces who have not had a serving army chief since october 1999 and it would not be acceptable to the people of Pakistan. General Musharaff, has assured me that he would retire as chief of army staff and he said this to the supreme court too in an open declaration that he would take his oath as president for a second time without the uniform. So let's see what happens.

How is the pakistan you now see different from the Pakistan you left eight years ago?

Well part of that Pakistan I know is still there. The three million people that were greating me at Kerachi airport were dancing singing and celebrating. There were young people. There were working classes, labourers and peasants. They came to show their support for democracy and their support to the forces of moderation. And then the tragedy struck. It struck through the small militant minority who want to use the bullet to capture my country. They musn't be allowed to do so. If we can restore the democratic process, we can restore tranquility, security to our people, provide them with the employment and education that are the best guarantees of a tolerant society.

Thank you for joining us today. It has been a privilege to talk and to hear the situation as you see it. Thank you very much indeed.

Thank you David.

That was Benazir Bhutto. More in a moment from FROST OVER THE WORLD

[raginggran]

Bhutto was in Catholic Schools when young, then went to Radcliffe and onto
Oxford..humm
She was groomed by TPTB for a role.
The culmination of her role is before our eyes..she "slipped up" and outed the
fact that Osama is dead..:o
Can't have controlled oppostion breaking ranks now can we?
So she was offed JFK style.
Lots of things being revealed by Pluto..
this is just the start of the 5th night.
Keep on being aware of tptb's plans..see through it and have no fear!

love

[synergy777]

Watch this video with Sir David Frost, Benazir Bhutto reveals that Omar Sheik, the former MI6 agent now in a Pakistani prison killed Osama bin Ladin. She makes the Watch this video with Sir David Frost, Benazir Bhutto reveals that Omar Sheik, the former MI6 agent now in a Pakistani prison killed Osama bin Ladin. She makes the revelation in an off-hand remark at about 6m12s into the interview.

Is this why she was killed? Because she exposed the CIA fairytale of Osama Bin Ladin's videos and attributed quotes when in reality he was kiled in 2002

http://www.youtube.com/v/oIO8B6fpFSQ&rel=1

[steevo]

Watch this video with Sir David Frost, Benazir Bhutto reveals that Omar Sheik, the former MI6 agent now in a Pakistani prison killed Osama bin Ladin. She makes the Watch this video with Sir David Frost, Benazir Bhutto reveals that Omar Sheik, the former MI6 agent now in a Pakistani prison killed Osama bin Ladin. She makes the revelation in an off-hand remark at about 6m12s into the interview.

Is this why she was killed? Because she exposed the CIA fairytale of Osama Bin Ladin's videos and attributed quotes when in reality he was kiled in 2002

http://www.youtube.com/v/oIO8B6fpFSQ&rel=1

Edit : Sorry I have just edited this post cos I wanted to know what date that video is from and I have now found the info, it's from 2 November 2007

[synergy777]

overwhelmed by the exposure the media gave to this comment, lol

this is why the elite are starting to slip up, they are starting to feel the presence of change,

a force they cannot conquer or control.

the end is here for the elite, their tragic crescendo is commencing

our new beginning is starting.

1love/peace

[optimus pigpot]

Similarities are endless, "lone gunman". Who shot her we'll never know..

Strange how he blew himself up. Still it'll all be written down as historicasl fact and taught it in schools..

There is no proof that he even shot her. Great shot from 30 metres away, not even aiming as he popped the gun over the heads of a crowd to produce ANOTHER one in a million shot..

Still, this will just fuel the Anti-terrorism feelings that are being paraded around and introduce some more negative responses. Strange, but I feel this is the precursor to something a lot bigger.

Problem, reaction, solution. Never more true.

Still, I'm off for a quick pray to God in the hope that he or she is going to stop all the drama.......

Nope, God's not there...

Have fun!!!

[2013]

But was she killed going o nthe report in todays mainheadlines , the journalist says the police stood down , the doctor says no bullet wounds no autopsy and a very quick burial ? maybe she has already been payed off to play her part and disappear , if so who's to say they wouldnt of got rid of her then after the fact :D

[sunyatta60]

and maybe u should think for yourself instead of the google association-game u constantly play

Says another Mind controlled Robotic Prick.

[the_pale_man]

I have to 'fess up. I shot her.

That b**** stole my parking space once. You don't steal The Pale Man's parking space and live to tell about it. ;)

[the_pale_man]

But seriously, I think this is another "Franz Ferdinand" type of assassination, maybe to start another World War.

[synergy777]

it could have been a layered attack. sniper teams up above who did the real shots. with gunmen at ground level to provide cover/divert attention.

snipers shoot, suicide bomber blows up, gunmen caught on camera, whilst snipers get away scott free.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7764

U.S. Troops to Head to Pakistan

William M. Arkin – Washington Post.com December 26, 2007

Beginning early next year, U.S. Special Forces are expected to vastly expand their presence in Pakistan, as part of an effort to train and support indigenous counter-insurgency forces and clandestine counterterrorism units, according to defense officials involved with the planning.

These Pakistan-centric operations will mark a shift for the U.S. military and for U.S. Pakistan relations. In the aftermath of Sept. 11, the U.S. used Pakistani bases to stage movements into Afghanistan. Yet once the U.S. deposed the Taliban government and established its main operating base at Bagram, north of Kabul, U.S. forces left Pakistan almost entirely. Since then, Pakistan has restricted U.S. involvement in cross-border military operations as well as paramilitary operations on its soil.

But the Pentagon has been frustrated by the inability of Pakistani national forces to control the borders or the frontier area. And Pakistan's political instability has heightened U.S. concern about Islamic extremists there.

According to Pentagon sources, reaching a different agreement with Pakistan became a priority for the new head of the U.S. Special Operations Command, Adm. Eric T. Olson. Olson visited Pakistan in August, November and again this month, meeting with Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf, Pakistani Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee Chairman Gen. Tariq Majid and Lt. Gen. Muhammad Masood Aslam, commander of the military and paramilitary troops in northwest Pakistan. Olson also visited the headquarters of the Frontier Corps, a separate paramilitary force recruited from Pakistan's border tribes.

Now, a new agreement, reported when it was still being negotiated last month, has been finalized. And the first U.S. personnel could be on the ground in Pakistan by early in the new year, according to Pentagon sources.

U.S. Central Command Commander Adm. William Fallon alluded to the agreement and spoke approvingly of Pakistan's recent counterterrorism efforts in an interview with Voice of America last week.

"What we've seen in the last several months is more of a willingness to use their regular army units," along the Afghan border, Fallon said. "And this is where, I think, we can help a lot from the U.S. in providing the kind of training and assistance and mentoring based on our experience with insurgencies recently and with the terrorist problem in Iraq and Afghanistan, I think we share a lot with them, and we'll look forward to doing that."

If Pakistan actually follows through, perhaps 2008 will be a better year

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/earlywarning/2007/12/musharrafs_woes_have_opened_a.html?


still the osama death ommissison is big news, why the scant coverage, and it was the frost show aswell.

[elysiansix]

But seriously, I think this is another "Franz Ferdinand" type of assassination, maybe to start another World War.

Yep.
All they need to do is declare the 'lone gunman' to be of Indian descent, propagating another Franz Ferdinand type war. But this one will be a NUCLEAR war (India-Pakistan have nuclear bombs) and Pakistan-India have EVERYTHING in their formula ( initials - PI - that's all that's needed after all - Sacred Geometry) that the Illuminati need to seed the future of the World at War - forever and ever and ever, thanks to PI Charts. Or Pakistan-India charts.
Depressing.

[synergy777]

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7766

Bhutto Assassination Sets Off Alarms Over Pakistan’s Nukes
Ron Kampeas – San Francisco Sentinel December 28, 2007

For Israelis, the assassin that killed Benazir Bhutto removed another barrier shielding the Jewish state from the Islamic bomb.

Israel’s media and leadership portrayed the sniper-suicide bombing attack Thursday that ended the onetime Pakistani prime minister’s life as a blow to hopes for a bridge to the Islamic world. They also suggested it raised the risk of Pakistan’s nuclear bomb falling into militant Islamist hands.

Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert called Bhutto’s death a “great tragedy,” according to the Jerusalem Post. “I saw her as someone who could have served as a bridgehead to relations with that part of the Muslim world with whom our ties are naturally limited,” the newspaper quoted Olmert as saying.

Tzipi Livni, the Israeli foreign minister, issued condolences to the Pakistani people.

Bhutto “demonstrated brave leadership for her people,” Livni said in a statement. “Israel expresses the hope that Pakistan will continue along the path of reconciliation, moderation and democracy.”

The chaos precipitated by the killing poses dangers beyond Pakistan’s immediate neighborhood, said Jack Rosen, a past president of the American Jewish Congress, noting that Pakistan is one of a handful of declared nuclear powers and the only Muslim country with the bomb. Rosen, who was the first Jewish leader to host a Pakistani leader when the AJCongress held a dinner for President Pervez Musharraf two years ago, said he was trying to reach the leadership in Pakistan for an assessment.

“If the government fell into extremist hands, the bomb also falls into the hands of extremists,” Rosen told JTA “You don’t need to worry about a nuclear Iran; you have a nuclear Pakistan in the hands of extremists.”

Israel radio led its hourly news Friday evening quoting the Pentagon as saying that Pakistan’s nuclear arsenal was “under control.”

Prior to her return from exile in October, Bhutto, 54, had been reaching out to Israel as part of a broader strategy of garnering Western support for her confrontation with the military regime led by Musharraf. The United States had been pressing its ally, Musharraf, into accommodating Bhutto’s push for new elections.

“She wrote me of how she admired Israel and of her desire to see a normalization in the relations between Israel and Pakistan, including the establishment of diplomatic ties,” Dan Gillerman, the Israeli ambassador to the United Nations, told Ynet, an online Israeli news site affiliated with Israel’s daily Yediot Acharonot.

According to a report in Israel’s daily Ma’ariv, Bhutto reached out to the Mossad, among other security agencies, for protection.

Bhutto sensed that Musharraf was not fully committed to protecting her, the Ma’ariv report said. Among the routine protective requests Musharraf’s government denied, the report said, were darkened windows on all the cars of her convoy and explosive detection devices.

Israeli authorities favored helping her, said Ma’ariv, which reported that she also had turned to Scotland Yard and the CIA for assistance. Hesitant to offend Musharraf, Israel’s government had yet to make a decision, the report said.

Bhutto was not always so friendly toward Israel. Pakistan maintained its traditionally hostile posture during her two stints as prime minister, in 1988-1990 and 1993-1996. Those were also periods during which Pakistan’s nuclear chief, A. Q. Khan, was developing what he dubbed an “Islamic bomb,” and, according to reports, marketing it to Israel’s most intransigent enemies at the time, Libya and Iran.

Musharraf contained Khan, placing him under house arrest, but only after the United States increased pressure in the wake of the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.

Rosen said Musharraf still represented Israel’s best hope for reconciliation, noting other signs of warming since the 2005 AJCongress dinner.

“Musharraf has done a number of things,” said Rosen, who now chairs the AJCongress’ Council for World Jewry. “He had his foreign minister publicly meet the Israeli foreign minister. He accepted aid from Israel for the earthquake victims.”

For Jews and Pakistanis in America, the assassination presents an opportunity for dialogue, said Rabbi Marc Schneier, president of the Foundation for Ethnic Understanding.

Coincidentally, Schneier said, a meeting between American Jewish communal leaders and Pakistani officials had been set just prior to the assassination. Now, he added, the meeting, to take place next month, was more imperative than ever.

“Now,” Schneier told JTA, “there is a shared experience, both in terms of the assassination” in 1995 of Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin, “and in terms of the impact of extremism.”

www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=8584

[synergy777]

http://jazz-from-hell.blogspot.com/2007/12/bhutto-believed-bin-laden-was-dead.html

Benazir Bhutto said Osama bin Laden was dead

And right on cue, shortly after former Pakistani premier Bhutto's own slaying, two key al-Qaeda news items appear. First, "senior US officials" are checking into an al-Qaeda claim of responsibility for the assassination, and—lo and behold—"Osama" himself will soon release a message regarding Iraq.

Bhutto asserted to David Frost less than two months ago that bin Laden had been murdered by Omar Sheikh, whom the Sunday Times once described as "no ordinary terrorist but a man who has connections that reach high into Pakistan's military and intelligence elite and into the innermost circles" of bin Laden and al-Qaeda. (Watch video starting at 5:33 for mentioned part.)

[howie]

Miliband: No reason to doubt claims


Britain has no reason to doubt the Pakistani government's account of Benazir Bhutto's assassination, Foreign Secretary David Miliband has insisted.

Supporters of Ms Bhutto dispute claims that an "al Qaida" militant leader was behind Thursday's attack, instead accusing the authorities of mounting a cover-up.

http://ukpress.google.com/article/ALeqM5iZlGLMi1tUygdZ9AuEUk-vuMZv0Q

[eyedontbelieveu]

Bhutto assassinated?

I don't buy it....

oh well, it should make another great (sarcasm) tv movie......

life imitates art or art imitates life........ you decide

where does the truth LIE? Truth never LIES so you will never get to SEE it on your TEL-LIE-VISION

P.E.A.C.E.

[on the road]

Hello all, I am a long time reader, but just felt compelled to sign up and begin posting on the forums so that I can share my opinion of all this with ya'll. I believe we may be tempted to look at this most recent situation incorrectly, because they anticipate us to apply the formulas of their previous tactics to this ever evolving game of deception.

The powers that be seem to have been quite conveniently busted with what the 'sheeple' have construed as a "build up to war with Iran". However, being the constant doubter of main stream media that I am, I find myself wondering why they are allowed to report on the "build up to war with Iran", and the only answer I have been able to come up with is naturally, only more questions. Perhaps the whole Iran thing was merely to stir up public ill-sentiment towards countries that may 'possibly have nuclear weaponry or have the ability to make such weaponry'? In the light of those sentiments, I am sure we can all see how 'ensuring the stability of a nuclear power like Pakistan' could quicly take a front seat to Iran in all this action, especially with the recent 'martyrdom of a democratic leader'... I am sure that I don't need to tell you guys and gals the effect that assassinated leaders can have on this game of mass manipulation.

While watching some "news" earlier, I am already seeing the new mantra develop. It seems to be starting out with "Pakistan, Al Qaeda, Pakistan, Al Qaeda".. and already is even starting to morph in to "Pakistan, Al Qaeda, Nuclear Arsenal, Rogue Military Factions". So where is good ol' Georgey going with this? Perhaps just a small puzzle piece in the road to world war 3 that he has begun to lay out for us? CNN (The Cerpent News Network) already told me in a header tonight that "Pakistan: Terror Central".

So could the "build up with Iran" possibly have been simply a case of testing the waters of the mindfuck of "forced nuclear nonproliferation in the interest of national security"?

So maybe 'they' allowed themselves to get caught with the 'war drums beating towards Iran', so that also the public would begin to feel like we know the cards that Bush is trying to play.. Do they want us to have a false sense of confidence over Bush, so that they will still be able to march our brothers and sisters to new battlefield trenches of sacrifice while we sit around cockily thinking that the media is actually keeping an eye on these thugs in power?

It is starting to seem to me, that if any of you peoples are still buying in to the idea that Bush got caught trying to conduct a war march towards Iran, then you are looking at this the way that they want you to... Most certainly, if Bush ever was trying to go to war with Iran, he wouldn't allow his thoroughly infiltrated media to report on it.... So what is the true objective?

Mega post !

[peachped]

Video.

http://www.justupit.com/download.php?id=cf34316287b199a3b78763fb019f23a3

[stupermundithegreat]

Probably taken out by the CIA/Mossad prats because they want their little dictator of a puppet to stay in power.

Absolutely the CIA killed her.

[tinmenace]

Absolutely the CIA killed her.


Wouldn't surprise me...or Mossad.

[gold]

Hasn't Bush just signed a budget bill for 2008, that included $250 million for various funding projects in Pakistan?

Is this just a coincidence or me being paranoid?

[scar]

Hasn't Bush just signed a budget bill for 2008, that included $250 million for various funding projects in Pakistan?

Is this just a coincidence or me being paranoid?

is there anyway to show a article on this? I would love to read it!

<3

[gold]

is there anyway to show a article on this? I would love to read it!

<3

I just happened to read it somewhere, I think it was in the Daily Mail! I didn't pay to much attention to it at the time! Sorry!:(

[2013]

Hasn't Bush just signed a budget bill for 2008, that included $250 million for various funding projects in Pakistan?

Is this just a coincidence or me being paranoid?

Back in 2006 i think it was bush visited pakistan which i thought odd at the time as he never really travells anywhere if he can avoid it , so it was a situation to keep an eye on , there was a lot of reported ufo activity in that area at he time as well ? was that black ops? A lot going on there and it is strategically important as we are aware .

[tinmenace]

Bhutto's son to lead her party

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/Bilawal-Bhutto-Zardari-1.jpg

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (CNN) -- Benazir Bhutto's 19-year-old son will succeed her as chairman of the Pakistan People's Party, officials announced Sunday.

SOURCE (http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/asiapcf/12/30/pakistan.politics/index.html)



Ok, not to be all negative about this, but what does this 19 year old boy have that could lead a nation to peace? This feels like loomie politics to me. He's good looking, and without any prior experience, he has succeeded his mother's throne. Hmmm

[tinmenace]

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/bhutto2.jpg

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/bhutto3.jpg

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/bhutto4.jpg

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/bhutto5.jpg

http://spiritual-nature.com/images/bhutto6.jpg

Photo Credit (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/)

[pri01]

I have to comment on pictures in todays UK tabloid papaer the Sunday people. It shows on page 16-17 what it claims to be her sister, son, 2 daughters and nephew all mourning. This family do not look like they're mourning, they look like they're waiting for a show to start. I wish I could get the pics up for you, and they don't seem to be available on their website either. But if you are in UK take a little look. Something else struck me as strange too. Apparantly she has left very specific details in her will about who should succeed her. How would she know that she would still be in politics when she died. I would expect someone that high up would be making plans to retire in her old age. Unless they knew otherwise that is. Is it possible that this reported death could be a fabrication?

[tinmenace]

I have to comment on pictures in todays UK tabloid papaer the Sunday people. It shows on page 16-17 what it claims to be her sister, son, 2 daughters and nephew all mourning. This family do not look like they're mourning, they look like they're waiting for a show to start. I wish I could get the pics up for you, and they don't seem to be available on their website either. But if you are in UK take a little look. Something else struck me as strange too. Apparantly she has left very specific details in her will about who should succeed her. How would she know that she would still be in politics when she died. I would expect someone that high up would be making plans to retire in her old age. Unless they knew otherwise that is. Is it possible that this reported death could be a fabrication?

Absolutely! Everything is possible.

[gold]

Back in 2006 i think it was bush visited pakistan which i thought odd at the time as he never really travells anywhere if he can avoid it , so it was a situation to keep an eye on , there was a lot of reported ufo activity in that area at he time as well ? was that black ops? A lot going on there and it is strategically important as we are aware .

YES! And he visited Rome at the same time! and it was reported of him taking his own loo with him, that had to be privately transported away, contents and all, by security, as not to be analyzed by forensics!

[2013]

YES! And he visited Rome at the same time! and it was reported of him taking his own loo with him, that had to be privately transported away, contents and all, by security, as not to be analyzed by forensics!

And anyone one who knows anything about magic will know that people who practise occult always guard anything of themselves ie hair nail clippings waste matter as it can be used against them so dodgey on two counts there . also pri0 1 i posted on another bhutto thread about a journalist who says police stood down and the doctors at the hospital said there was no bullet wounds ! also they did no autopsy maybe this is common for her religion but they buried her very quickly next day :D

[greenleaf]

Bhutto email named killers weeks before assassination (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=505152&in_page_id=1811)


Benazir Bhutto claimed three senior allies of Pakistan's president General Musharraf were out to kill her in a secret email to Foreign Secretary David Miliband written weeks before her death.

Astonishingly, one of them is a leading intelligence officer who was officially responsible for protecting Miss Bhutto from an assassination.

The second is a prominent Pakistani figure, one of whose family members was allegedly murdered by a militant group run by Miss Bhutto's brother. The third is a well-known chief minister in Pakistan who is a long-standing opponent of Miss Bhutto.

Miss Bhutto told Mr Miliband she was convinced that the three were determined to assassinate her on her return to the country and pleaded with him to put pressure on the Pakistan government to stop them.

The disclosure is bound to lead to questions as to whether the Foreign Office did enough to safeguard Miss Bhutto.

Her return was organised in close co-ordination with the UK and US governments, which saw her as the best hope of restoring democracy in Pakistan while preventing it from falling into the hands of Islamic extremists.

The email concerning the three alleged would-be killers identified by Miss Bhutto emerged as rival political factions in Pakistan continued to dispute the details surrounding her assassination.

The Pakistan government said she was killed by Al Qaeda, but her People's Party dismissed that as "a pack of lies" and insisted General Musharraf's regime was implicated.

Wajid Shamsul Hasan, Pakistan's former High Commissioner to the UK and a British-based adviser to Miss Bhutto, said: "She sent an email to the Foreign Office before she returned to Pakistan naming certain people.

"In the email, she said, 'The following persons are planning to murder me and if any harm comes to me they should be held responsible.'"

Miss Bhutto wrote her prophetic email to Mr Miliband in September, shortly after she met him to discuss her return to Pakistan. She named the same three individuals in a letter to General Musharraf in October.

The Mail on Sunday has been informed of the names but has decided not to publish them.

One is a senior intelligence officer and retired army officer who worked for Pakistan's sinister Inter Services Intelligence spy agency, which has close links to the Taliban and has been involved in drug smuggling and political assassinations. He allegedly directed two Islamic terrorist groups and reportedly once boasted that he could pay money to hired killers to assassinate anyone who posed a threat to Musharraf's regime.

He was given another senior intelligence post by Musharraf after his bid to become a senior overseas diplomat for Pakistan failed when the host country refused to let him in because of his past activities.

He was also linked to Omar Sheikh, the former British public schoolboy convicted of kidnapping US journalist Daniel Pearl, who was murdered in 2002 by having his throat cut and being decapitated by Islamic terrorists.

The second individual named by Miss Bhutto is well known in Pakistani political circles and has been involved in a vicious family feud with her for decades.

One of his relatives was said to have been murdered by the militant Al Zulfiqar group run by Miss Bhutto's brother, Murtaza. The organisation was set up to avenge the execution of Miss Bhutto's father Zulfiqar Bhutto by ex-Pakistan dictator Zia ul Haq.

The third individual is a chief minister who has repeatedly denounced Miss Bhutto - and faced political annihilation if she won the elections scheduled for next week. He made an outspoken attack on her only hours before her death.

A senior source said: "She knew the risk she was taking when she decided to go back but also took the precaution of informing the British Government of the names of those she thought presented the biggest danger to her.

"She hoped Mr Miliband would use his influence with General Musharraf to remove certain people from positions where they were able to plot against her. She gave the same names to General Musharraf but she knew there was only a limited possibility of any action being taken.

"She had to rely on Mr Musharraf and countries such as Britain and America, who supported her return and have close connections with Mr Musharraf's government, to take her concerns seriously.

"Events have shown she was right to be worried. If any of the three people she named turn out to have been involved in this assassination, there will be serious repercussions."

The Mail on Sunday has also learned that after an earlier attempt to assassinate her in October, the Foreign Office told Miss Bhutto to stop making wild allegations against Musharraf - or face greater danger.

A Foreign Office spokesman said: "Miss Bhutto had a series of meetings with the Foreign Secretary and other officials. She raised her concerns about particular people and we raised them in turn with the authorities in Pakistan and asked them to put in place more strict security measures to protect her."