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octopusrex
23-12-2007, 05:03 AM
Should we follow:

1. Atheist Laws?
2. Christian Laws?
3. Muslim Laws?
4. Jewish Laws?
5. Vedic Laws?

How should we determine a manner to live in amongst ourselves peacefully without injustice done to those who do not follow our peculiar interest in moral and ethical religious guides?

snoopsnuffleopagus
23-12-2007, 05:23 AM
Should we follow:

1. Atheist Laws?
2. Christian Laws?
3. Muslim Laws?
4. Jewish Laws?
5. Vedic Laws?

How should we determine a manner to live in amongst ourselves peacefully without injustice done to those who do not follow our peculiar interest in moral and ethical religious guides?


Cordial Felicitations Octopusrex:


This is an area I am also interested in.

I wish to Examine the Vedic Body of Laws.



As a New Yorker, we naturally consider Laws as Suggestions.


And as a Union Worker; Equity & Parity are two concepts dear to my heart.


Except for the Atheists. (who are Rational & Intelligent), I would think there is profound 'Wisdom' found in Many Bodies of Law.

They maybe difficult to understand from our current perspective and conditioning.


Myself, I am 'Down' with Yahwehs Codex of Law, the Torah: 613 Laws, Judgements & Statutes


At this Time, most Peoples seem to be making their own choices, wittingly or unwittingly.


Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus

blue
23-12-2007, 08:11 AM
Should we follow:

1. Atheist Laws?
2. Christian Laws?
3. Muslim Laws?
4. Jewish Laws?
5. Vedic Laws?

How should we determine a manner to live in amongst ourselves peacefully without injustice done to those who do not follow our peculiar interest in moral and ethical religious guides?

the only law that i can see that can stand at any given point of time, is the law of one. infinite love is the only truth.....everything else (muslim, jewish, vedic laws) is an illusion.

optimus pigpot
23-12-2007, 10:50 AM
the only law that i can see that can stand at any given point of time, is the law of one. infinite love is the only truth.....everything else (muslim, jewish, vedic laws) is an illusion.

Illusion is all!!!!!!!

The torah is bollocks!!!

Op

serpentoffire
23-12-2007, 12:29 PM
Should we follow:

1. Atheist Laws?
2. Christian Laws?
3. Muslim Laws?
4. Jewish Laws?
5. Vedic Laws?

How should we determine a manner to live in amongst ourselves peacefully without injustice done to those who do not follow our peculiar interest in moral and ethical religious guides?

Good sense is enough. There is no laws that can say you what it's wrong and what it's good. One action is good in a situation and wrong in another. There is not boundary between good and evil.

drael
23-12-2007, 12:39 PM
An it harm none, do as thy will might be a good basis for a legal system - a measure of direct harm to others. Personally i think the legal system sucks, and prison/capital punishment is pointless. The whole thing needs complete revision.

Anarchy seem to work quite well: If someone gets pushy, push back. Of course this is tribal law, and sometimes leads to feuds, but if its systemized by agreed basic laws, it can work.

I dont think any religious works will help you here. I mean, theyd just say everything that isnt my veiw should be punished (as they already do). Lets not got back to the intolerance of the past. Ultimately laws are just coded social norms, which change over time anyway - better just to go freeform in some way, so that the system is more dynamic and can change with peoples veiws.

octopusrex
23-12-2007, 05:18 PM
"and it harm none".. I tend to agree with this.

HOWEVER: Many cultures will be unconfortable with such permissiveness. So we go back to Tribal Law.

The point is this: A Jew has no business judging a Vaisnava or a Satanist judging a Christian. We cannot in good faith apply the laws of others to folks whose culture is radically different.

Polygamy comes to mind.

The Lakota, in their emerging Nation, will have laws different from the law of "the land". The law of the "land" has to be to most possibly permissive law ("..and it harm none") to be the most universal. A WORLD LAW does not exist. We live in an anarchic (chaotic) world where the Law of the Land belongs to the strongest. Private Property (a disaster in my view) is a clear example of this.

Might is right is the only law of this world right now. The poorest and weakest among us have no real protection "of the law". The clear proof of this is Africa and Latin America where only those who have money can really enjoy the benefit of the protection of the "law".

Among the mafia, especially the Russian mafia, the USA is known as "Disneyland" because everything (including the "laws") is like a fantasy - irreal. The fact that "laws" are obeyed by Americans is uniquely true there, and nowhere else in the world. Americans who leave the USA are notorious for calling their "embassy" when their "rights" are violated. Its a joke down here..

Tribal Law is the answer. The Law of the Land belongs to those who can "hold" territory.

optimus pigpot
24-12-2007, 01:09 AM
Good sense is enough. There is no laws that can say you what it's wrong and what it's good. One action is good in a situation and wrong in another. There is not boundary between good and evil.

I thought you'd gone and found a Christian web site SOF.. What brought you back, not enough people to convert eh!!!!!

Here we go people more Christian crap ready and waiting to join the Messianic Yahweh Tosh that's already being posted!!!!!

Will it ever end!!!!!

octopusrex
24-12-2007, 01:50 AM
The problem I find with scriptural law is that a long time has passed since and the world is radically different. Christ did not have internet.

serpentoffire
24-12-2007, 02:43 PM
I thought you'd gone and found a Christian web site SOF.. What brought you back, not enough people to convert eh!!!!!

Here we go people more Christian crap ready and waiting to join the Messianic Yahweh Tosh that's already being posted!!!!!

Will it ever end!!!!!

May God send peace for your soul too.

ennui
24-12-2007, 03:09 PM
Trust your instincts to tell you what is right and wrong. Much better than anything written in a book.