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oiram

21-12-2007, 09:53 AM

Christians? Do you believe what the Bible teaches?
Nothing surprises me anymore; the best cover anyone could have to trick as all!

Maybe this is an old story for you! I only stumbled over this looking for the Ten Commandments; True ore not is irrelevant you got to make your own mind!
You could get upset reading this ore you will just simply dismiss this as usual!

Note: Catholic Christians! If you not a strong minded person & ready for bad news; I recommend that you don’t read this!
Let me put it this way example: Would you be able to forgive your Mother if she murdered your Father ore vice versa!

You may like to read the Chapters in the same order I did!

1) Chapter 8:
2) Chapter 10:
3) Chapter 12:
4) Chapter 11: Antichrist :confused:

Go Here: http://www.pacinst.com/efh/preamble.html

Note: Please do not Attack ore argue with me about the articles; I’m neutral on this, but this makes me think what the Hell is going on in Rome!

optimus pigpot

21-12-2007, 10:10 PM

octopusrex

22-12-2007, 02:05 AM

Rome = The Harlot..

I have heard this a million times in the states, especially donw south. They don't much like Catholics out thar.

oiram

22-12-2007, 10:21 AM

Rome = The Harlot..
I have heard this a million times in the states, especially donw south. They don't much like Catholics out thar.
This is what they all didn’t teach as anywhere "don't I wonder why!
It’s not about Catholics ore any other Religions it's all about are self’s as an individual and the
Ten Commandments!

Com on Ladies and Gentleman's this is unbelievable; anyone out there is following the Ten Commandments?
We only need 144,000

This is embarrassing and no joke; could we please round up the 144,000 people out of 6,500,000,000 representing the requirement described below!
I can not wait any longer to get this over and done with!

http://www.pacinst.com/efh/chapter15/returned.html
Christ is patiently waiting for 144,000 of His people to achieve perfection before returning to earth to take them to heaven. Why does He wait for 144,000 people to reach perfection before He will return? When He was on earth He lived a perfect life, showing us that it can be done. Satan, however, complained that Christ could live a perfect life because He was God in heaven, but that men could not achieve this. Another accusation against Christ and His law.

Christ, therefore, must wait until He has 144,000 people whose characters have developed to the point where for them sin is impossible. He can then point to them as proof that his law can be obeyed — perfectly. Then, what can Satan say? Nothing. To the entire universe the 144,000 prove him to be a liar. As soon as the 144,000 perfect people appear, the final events of earth’s history will immediately occur, and the pain and misery of earth will come to an end.

Why the number 144,000? This is the number of people that Christ feels is adequate to prove to the universe that the accusations which Satan made against Him and His law are false. This is the number which Christ feels is required to make Satan, himself, admit that he was wrong.

It is sad that only 144,000 of the vast population of earth will achieve this perfection of character in these last days. The 144,000 are discussed in Revelation 14:1-5: “And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father’s name written in their foreheads. And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth. These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the first fruits unto God and to the Lamb. And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.” Thus we see that the 144,000 are, indeed, the perfect people, for “they are without fault before the throne of God.”

The phrase “not defiled with women” is often misunderstood. This simply means that the 144,000 perfect people do not defile their characters in the least with the false doctrines and practices of the many false churches. A woman, you will remember, is the symbol of a church in Bible prophecy. These perfect people will have nothing to do with any heathen doctrine. Their religion is the pure Word of God. Notice that the 144,000 are redeemed from among men. They do not die. They are the righteous living when Christ returns.

The 144,000, of course, will not be the only ones to be saved. After Revelation 7:1-8 describes the 144,000, consisting of twelve thousand from each character type, Revelation 7:9 describes a vast multitude which are also saved. “After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands.” These are the righteous people of all ages who will be resurrected when Christ returns to enjoy an abundant life in God’s eternity.

Thus we see that before He can return to earth and put an end to sin forever, Christ must wait for His 144,000 perfect people. Therefore, when the Lord will return is really up to us.
Main Index Page: http://www.pacinst.com/efh/preamble.html

Also here is something even more interesting the term “Israel” has nothing to do with the place ore the Jews
it's all about the people all over the world which are able to follow the Ten Commandments = Gods Law!
Can you smell the Rat about the Brainwashing we received!
Screw the Vatican with there World wide operating Evil, manipulating & lying teachers!
http://www.pacinst.com/efh/chapter15/returned.html
The term “Israel,” which means “ruling with God,” refers to the true Christians in the world today. (Galatians 3:28,29). If God’s true people today are Israel, how, then, can they be from the twelve tribes of the children of Israel? Continuing with Revelation 7:5-8 we see that 12,000 people come from each of the twelve tribes to make up the 144,000.

Of the tribe of Judah were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.

We can get some insight into the meaning of these different tribes by considering Genesis 49:1-27. These verses describe the last testimony Israel (Jacob) gave to his twelve sons just before his death. Notice that this is a prophecy for the last days, the days in which we are living. “And Jacob called unto his sons, and said, Gather yourselves together, that I may tell you that which shall befall you in the last days. Gather yourselves together, and hear, ye sons of Jacob: and hearken unto Israel your father.” Israel then proceeded to describe the character of each of his sons:

Don't ever forget who murdered Jesus on the Cross! The Crucifixion = Reality, Jesus = Truth, God is the Law ”the Ten Commandments”.

Who tries to kill & manipulate the truth = Evil, Satan, Devil and Antichrist? I know and you know!

You do not know how happy & grateful I am too the persons who made the website explaining the Bible's chapters!

PACIFIC INSTITUTE
P. O. Box 33111
San Diego, CA 92163
http://www.pacinst.com/efh/preamble.html

blue

22-12-2007, 01:25 PM

do these 144,000 people have to be christians only and not from any other religion or even a non believer?

octopusrex

22-12-2007, 05:41 PM

Chrirst only gave ONE COMMANDMENT!

oiram

23-12-2007, 09:59 AM

do these 144,000 people have to be christians only and not from any other religion or even a non believer?
Any person that's the way I understand this; we are all the same the only difference we have is to ether follow good ore evil.
By my logic if this would discriminate any Human on this Earth how could this be positive!

oiram

23-12-2007, 10:06 AM

Chrirst only gave ONE COMMANDMENT!
Yes he did; hoping that we would eventually do the right thing by using our individual free will and apply the Ten Commandments as one unit!

oiram

23-12-2007, 10:22 AM

Rome = The Harlot..
I have heard this a million times in the states, especially donw south. They don't much like Catholics out thar.
:eek: O..h .. God is this a positive sign ore.....??

Tony Blair finally becomes a Catholic
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3087473.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00258/BlairOrig_258322a.jpg (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3087473.ece)

An Open Letter to the Church Leaders and Membership of a Church We Once Attended
http://www.christian-parents.net/Church/YC107_Letter_To_Leaders.htm
In 1996 we were forced to re-evaluate our membership in a church we had attended for several years. There were a few things that had been bothering us and we were finally forced to face them head on. Although we dearly loved our friends there and had grown to appreciate many of the members of the congregation, we couldn't overlook the fact that the preaching from the pulpit was sliding away from the basic gospel of Paul. This is the letter we wrote to the elders and our friends explaining our decision to leave the church. . .

oiram

24-12-2007, 11:24 PM

Merry Christmas to ALL!
Tony Blair finally becomes a Catholic
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3087473.ece
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00258/BlairOrig_258322a.jpg (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/faith/article3087473.ece)

I am the Lord = Who is the Lord the Pope:confused: the Papacy:confused:ore the Catholic Church:confused::confused:
I am lucky not to be a Catholic but this is BAD SHIT & No one ever ask about this!
Also if I am correct the Sabbath day should be Saturday NOT Sunday:confused:
There would only be Satan ore Antichrist who would be tempted to Masquerade as God!

The original is clear! You see this: I am the Lord Satan thy God
If you can not view Image Go Here http://indonesian.110mb.com//s/images/ten.gif
http://indonesian.10001mb.com//s/images/ten.jpeg (http://www.pacinst.com/efh/chapter11/666.html)
THE ORIGIN OF EVIL
http://www.pacinst.com/origin.htm

shellygurrrl

26-12-2007, 06:17 AM

Ok, what do I see, people trying to get a certain message across - loud - with big fonts and colors!

Just SAY it. WTF?

I see disinfo. That's what my intuition says.

Prove me wrpng.

blue

26-12-2007, 01:40 PM

Ok, what do I see, people trying to get a certain message across - loud - with big fonts and colors!

Just SAY it. WTF?

I see disinfo. That's what my intuition says.

Prove me wrpng.

right on the spot.

oiram

26-12-2007, 06:25 PM

Why?
Good Question! Do you really like to know?
I just wanted to see how many in this world will lose ALL there wealth when this time arrives! ;);)
I should not talk about this but why not nothing to lose!
21 dec 2007 I had a weird Dream and then the same night a thunder I never heard in my life; sounded like a trumpet then I went outside and I seen a unique Sign & Patten in the night sky wile lightning! Even my friend heard the same trumpet sound the same night and he described it to me the same as I heard it! I swear by my Mother & God that I heard the sound!
Full article: http://www.crawford2000.co.uk/mag.htm
There seem to be two schools of thought concerning the coming pole shift .
The first of these is the belief that the Earth will actually tilt on its axis, as stated in the readings of Edgar Cayce and numerous other psychics. Rather like the skin of an orange sliding round the fruit inside, the crust of the Earth is predicted to move accordingly. There is some evidence to support this: For example, the poles, over time, may make the planet "top heavy" with the accumulation of ice and thus, in conjunction with the natural wobble in the rotation of the Earth, combine with this to tip the axis over. Perhaps this would explain the Mammoths found in Siberia with frozen daisies in their mouths, plants that only grow in temperate climates. There are numerous legends from indigenous peoples around the world that tell of a time when either the sun stood still or 3 days of darkness (depending on which part of the planet they were on at the time). A great deal of both channelled information and prophecy agree that this is an essential part of the ongoing Earth Changes that are preparing us for our great adventure.

Although no one is sure when the pole-shift will take place this time (but 2012 seems a bit of a sure bet), one thing is certain, it will happen within this generation.

Indeed, what happens at a pole-shift is anything calm. Usually when we approach the point in the precession of the equinoxes where the changes take place, everything begins to break down. The key is the magnetic field of the Earth, which is what we use to interpret who and what we think we are and also to store our memory. The day before, the day of, and the day after the full moon there is usually an increase in murders, rape, and other serious crimes because the moon causes a bubble on the magnetic field. This minute bubble is enough to push already emotionally disturbed people over the edge.

As the shift approaches, things begin to go out of balance, and the magnetic field begins to fluctuate significantly over a very short period of time (about 3 - 6 months). This would be like a full moon getting bigger and bigger every day. What happens then is that people start to go crazy emotionally. This breaks down economical and social structures on the planet because it is only people who keep these structures together.

According to prophetic and channelled writings, the pole and dimensional shifts are simultaneous (but this may not necessarily be the case-as in all things, discernment of all information is the key). About 5 - 6 hours before the actual shift happens, an extraordinary visual phenomenon should take place. The third and fourth dimensions actually begin to interface. Third dimensional consciousness gradually recedes away from us as we approach fourth dimensional consciousness. As the third dimensional grid begins to break down, synthetic objects disappear (say goodbye to your brand new Hi Fi & TV !!). This is one reason that even though there is a 500 million year history of advanced life on this planet, there is virtually no evidence of it. In order to survive a pole-shift, objects must be made purely out of natural materials like the pyramids and the Sphinx—natural materials that are in resonance with the Earth. Even then virtually everything on the planet will be blown away.

As the synthetic objects begin to disappear, fourth dimensional objects may suddenly emerge. Colours and shapes unlike anything we have ever known will appear on the landscape.

According to the Ascended Masters (See personal viewpoint page for my opinions on these "Masters"), we have already reached the point where 1.5 billion people will definitely make the conscious shift, and the Masters are projecting that everyone, or almost everyone will make it into the next dimension AS LONG AS WE ARE NOT TAKEN IN BY THE CHARADE THAT WILL BE PLAYED OUT OVER THE NEXT FEW YEARS.
Magnetic north pole drifting fast
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/4520982.stm

http://www.alienshift.com/id1.html
Warning!
Before reading this page reader should let go of all fears about Death and Dying in the Pole Shift if you are under 21 please ask your parents or guardian to read this page with you.
Remember that you are a non destructive Soul and nothing can destroy your real you except the universal force who has created you.
Even as predicted by many if 2/3 of humans die during the pole shift that death is similar to a hand (soul) coming out of the Glove (Body), the hand is still the same hand and the glove (the body) is dead on the ground.
So in actuality you are more alive been dead! Remember there is no death but transformation.
Don't worry you are in good Hands!

This date is not fixed for many reasons one is that the Catholic Chruch has changed the Birth year of Jesus by 2, 4 or may be 7 years to confuse the Public about the dates for Nostradamus Prediction of church's downfall.
By doing so the whole history of man is off, but one thing is for sure and that is that it will be in this generation and time frame as Bible predicted about the Astroid hitting the earth called Wormwood!
Thanks for the link "Number 6" thats what I was looking for!
How Many Millionaires are There in the World?
http://ww-success.com/blog/index.php/2006/10/16/millionaires-in-the-world/
The word millionaire is generally used to describe a rich person. When we speak of a millionaire, we think about mansions, limousines and yachts. But what is the most accurate definition of a millionaire? The most recognized definition of a millionaire is a person who has financial assets of at least US$ 1 million, excluding the home value. Despite of the images that we associate with this word, the amount of US$1 million nowadays is no longer what is used to be some decades ago. Many people who have this amount today live without luxuries and do not feel rich. However, this amount is used as a measure to differentiate privileged people, who are known as HNWI (High Net Worth Individuals).

How many millionaires, or HNWIs are there in the world? According to the research made by CapGemini and Merryl Lynch published in the World Wealth Report 2006, there are about 2,669,000 millionaires in the United States , or about 0.9% of the population. In the whole world there are 8.7 million millionaires, or about 0.13% of the world-wide population. The total number of millionaires in the world grew 6.5% in 2005. They possess a total of US$33.3 trillions in financial assets. The majority of the millionaires are in North America (United States and Canada).

The table below shows the distribution of millionaires in the main regions of the world:
North America - 2.9 million
Europe - 2.8 million
Asia-Pacific - 2.4 million
Latin America - 0.3 million
Middle East - 0.3 million
Africa - 0.1 million
http://ww-success.com/blog/wp-includes/images/Millionaires-eng.JPG (http://ww-success.com/blog/index.php/2006/10/16/millionaires-in-the-world/)
There is another level of extreme millionaires. These are the people who possess more than US$30 million in financial assets. These people are trully rich, and have the financial power to live in mansions, and to buy yatches. There are a total of 85,400 people in the world who fall in this level of wealth, and almost half are in North America. Although this level of wealth is practically unreacheable for the great majority of people, the goal of becoming a millionaire, or to be a HNWI, is completely viable for most people. If you have this objective you may be curious to know where the wealth of these millionaires comes from.
But this is a bit of a worry!
2007 is 2012
http://www.greatdreams.com/2007_is_2012.htm
http://www.greatdreams.com/astrology-12-21-2007.jpg (http://www.greatdreams.com/2007_is_2012.htm)
Absolute Proof That 2007 is 2012
by MJ
This is absolute proof that proves Jesus could not have been born after 4BC.
The scholarly consensus, based on Josephus' Antiquities of the Jews is that Herod died at the end of March, or early April of 4 BC. For instance, he states that Herod Philip I's death took place, after a thirty-seven year reign, in the twentieth year of Tiberius, which would imply that he took over on Herod's death in 4 BC.[8] This would imply a date for the birth of Jesus earlier than 4 BC, based on the account in the Matthew Gospel
Antiquities of the Jews