Interesting: A Jew defends Hitler

[phantom]

Ernst Zundel interviews Prof. Roger Dommergue in France.

A Jew defends Hitler

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=purWmOFl8qc&feature=related

Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVU3I8dRtto&feature=related

part 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqR0SHMsEMA&feature=related

[dondaz]

What's being jewish got to do with it? You are a devider, a trouble making Coward.

Grow a pair of balls and answer me back in the threads. Just like the other twats who can't face being challenged over trolling this forum and have to run away like a little kid.

What has being jewish got to do with this? Why do you play the Jewish card and then run away? Something to hide?

[phantom]

dondaz - dondaz What's being jewish got to do with it? You are a devider, a trouble making Coward.

This is the second time you have had a pop at me dondaz. We are divided by many things and will never see eye to eye with everyone. Religion and politics are two of the major dividers we face.

The zionists owned MSM are another big divider, always pointing the finger at the Muslims every chance it gets yet turns a blind eye to the murder and ethnic cleansing israel is doing daily to the Palestinians.

You are delusional if you believe that the world will ever become united and people put their differences behind them and get along. You need to wake up.

You can call me whatever you like, it's like water off a ducks back to me. Why am I not allowed to use the term jew? Do you not believe in my right to free speech. Are you another hypocrite?

Anyway, check the source and you will see the title is, as I posted it. I had nothing to do with the title.

Grow a pair of balls and answer me back in the threads. Just like the other twats who can't face being challenged over trolling this forum and have to run away like a little kid.

I have a pair of hairy balls and DID answer you back the last time you insulted me on another thread with your childish behaviour. I will never run away from someone such as you. The only way to shut me up is to ban me. I am doing nothing wrong that I would consider worthy of a ban. I have not insulted anyone when being on the end of an insult like now. I always answer questions as honestly as I can when called upon to do so. I am not a coward and there is not one reply to my posts that I have failed to answer.

What has being jewish got to do with this? Why do you play the Jewish card and then run away? Something to hide?

You are giving me a good giggle. The professor is jewish and who is running away? I have nothing to hide. If you want to go head to head with me on a topic that regards jews then be my guest. How about you taking up the holocaust debate with me or the debate about the protocols of zion, or zionism, or israel, or anything thing else that involves jews that takes your fancy. How about the black slave trade that was controlled by jews. Come on dondaz, lets not pussy foot around, let your balls hang low and take me on bad man.

[mr jones]

;) How Dare You Say The Word Jew

[phantom]

Sorry mr jones, it wont happen again I promise. It was a slip of the tongue.............. I mean, fingers on the keyboard.

Please forgive me, http://www.dbstalk.com/images/smiles2/gott.gif please!

[swiftlouie143]

lol um.. I hate to break it too ya. But Hilter was a so called "jew" himself. Relative of the Rothchild banking dyansty.. (google it) wake up people.

[phantom]

Hi swiftlouie143

Emmmmmm........... Yep! I went down that road a few years ago and found it to be ............. well ............. a dead end. There is no evidence that Hitler was a jew or a Rothschild, it is just another theory to side track us.

[phantom]

Bumped for dondaz to reply, seeing as though he is now back online and accused me of not answering to replies and called me a coward.

[challand]

Phantom, everytime I see a suspiciously dis-info sounding post I notice you are the poster. You are either posting about how Alex Jones is a fraud or some such divisive non-sense. Now you've been posting about very suspicious topics, holocaust, Jews defending Hitler? *rolls eyes*

[phantom]

Hi challand

challand - Phantom, everytime I see a suspiciously dis-info sounding post I notice you are the poster. You are either posting about how Alex Jones is a fraud or some such divisive non-sense. Now you've been posting about very suspicious topics, holocaust, Jews defending Hitler? *rolls eyes*

:eek: A "suspiciously dis-info sounding post":confused:

Well, I am surprised.

I am not a fan of Alex Jones, although he does deliver some good information. I am a little dubious of the man considering he is pushing all this NWO/illuminati info and 9/11 among other things at us, yet he fails to mentions jews, whether zionist, mossad or even jesuits for that matter.

Do I not have a right to air my feelings about this man? Do I have to take him for granted as a major truth seeker and sayer? No I don't.

As for posting on suspicious topics like the holocaust, what is wrong with that? Why should I accept the official version when so much has been proven to be lies, by both revisionists and holocaust historians/scholars alike.

What are you trying to say?

Just because I look at things different to you does not in any way mean I am a dis-info agent or telling lies. If that is your take on things, why don't you rebut the several holocaust posts I have made instead of accusing me or insinuating I am a dis-info agent of some kind?

[seer74]

seriously just because someone disagrees with you does NOT mean they are a troll. And if someone who's Jewish defended Hitler then I certainly find that VERY interesting. And why LOOK there's the interview!!

BTW I do not consider the holocaust a hoax, I call it a very reall event that has been grossly misrepresented in order to trigger the reaction that the attrocitys that DID take place were MEANT to bring about.

[ssyx]

Wow, another thread where phantom posts info and is met with outrage but no rebuttals.

I see a pattern.

[phantom]

Hi seer74

Thanks for the back-up on the troll thing. Some people find it hard to believe that the Nazi gas chambers were never used to kill anyone and were in fact used for delousing clothes, mattresses and so on.

Hi ssyx

Isn't it amazing, no serious rebuttal, only insults and outrage.

Oh Well! :rolleyes:

[Anders Lindman]

Alan Watt's interpretation might be correct. He says that Germany after WW1 was in such a financial situation that they had to fight their way out of it. All a manipulation by the elite. That would as I see it allowed a sociopath like Hitler to rise to power, and probably even have encouraged such political movement.

As I see it Hitler was evil. But he was put there by circumstances fostering such monstrosities.

[paganus]

Alan Watt's interpretation might be correct. He says that Germany after WW1 was in such a financial situation that they had to fight their way out of it. All a manipulation by the elite. That would as I see it allowed a sociopath like Hitler to rise to power, and probably even have encouraged such political movement.

As I see it Hitler was evil. But he was put there by circumstances fostering such monstrosities.isnt it karmic that a people calling themselves 'the chosen' would eventually run into a people calling themselves the master race?

[steevo]

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=-fHmWcRZ72A

[mr jones]

is the word JEW a swear word? you fooking JEW :D

[steevo]

is the word JEW a swear word? you fooking JEW :D

I aint a Jew or any religion, you fooking TROLL AGENT cuuunt! :D

[phantom]

Hi steevo

There is no need for that language. Why can't you respond in a civilised manner without the profanities.

[steevo]

Hi steevo

There is no need for that language. Why can't you respond in a civilised manner without the profanities.

What you talking about Willis ? :p

[phantom]

Hi steevo

I knew you would respond with another silly remark. It is a shame you cannot see how pathetic you look.

And to think, you think you have an open mind. :eek:

You should be ashamed of yourself.

[steevo]

Hi steevo

I knew you would respond with another silly remark. It is a shame you cannot see how pathetic you look.

And to think, you think you have an open mind. :eek:

You should be ashamed of yourself.

Not that I have to explain anything to you Phantom but I was just responding to Mr Jones "in kind".

So stop being a pathetic Jew hater. I personally have questioned the holocaust so dont say to me that I dont want it discussed cos I dont mind at all but you have to be very careful about it, you need to distinquish the Jews from the actual perpertrators and you Phantom post dangerous stuff that appears to give this forum a tag of anti-semite. I appreciate that the Anti Deformation Leauge abuse their power and they call EVERYONE who says anything against the official story of the holocaust to be anti-semites but we got to be careful sometimes what stuff we say on here IMO. If you wanna be reckless and post any old shit about JEWS and not make it clear that you dont mean ALL the Jews then you should start your own forum. That is MY opinion.

[phantom]

Hello again steevo

Not that I have to explain anything to you Phantom but I was just responding to Mr Jones "in kind".

Of course you don't have to explain anything to me but if that's your way of being "kind", I would love to see how you treat people Offensively.

So stop being a pathetic Jew hater.

I am not a "jew hater" as you put it. You know nothing about me and only accuse me of being a jew hater because I have the front to question the holocaust.

I personally have questioned the holocaust so dont say to me that I dont want it discussed cos I dont mind at all but you have to be very careful about it, you need to distinquish the Jews from the actual perpertrators and you Phantom post dangerous stuff that appears to give this forum a tag of anti-semite.

Then discuss the holocaust with me.

What have you questioned about the holocaust and what did you find out?

Why do I have to be careful?

I know and do distinguish the difference between the ordinary jew and the zionist jews. How many more times do I have to tell you people I am not blaiming ALL the jews?

What is dangerous about what I post?

It only seems anti-Semitic to those who are conditioned to think it is. Richard Warman (http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/58/26/) and others (http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=david+Icke+anti-Semitic+&spell=1) have already accused Icke of being an anti-Semite, so what are you talking about?

I appreciate that the Anti Deformation Leauge abuse their power and they call EVERYONE who says anything against the official story of the holocaust to be anti-semites but we got to be careful sometimes what stuff we say on here IMO.

I do not care if the ADL, JDL or any other jewish group, or person, thinks I am a neo-Nazi or anti-Semite. I know I am not and that is all that matters to me. Why should I care what they call me?

If you wanna be reckless and post any old shit about JEWS and not make it clear that you dont mean ALL the Jews then you should start your own forum. That is MY opinion.

You obviously haven't been reading what I say. Check my threads, look at how many times I HAVE MADE IT CLEAR THAT I DO NOT BLAME ALL THE JEWS.

[steevo]

I didnt say that you should care what the ADL think of YOU or call you did I ? What if the mainstream media decide to pick up on your posts ? It will be the David Icke Forum itself that suffers. That is why I suggested that you think about doing your own forum in the same way David Icke has done this one. It's just a thought.

I am aware that David Icke has been called an anti-semite by people who wish to silence him and discredit him. There are many threads on here now that could be seen as anti-semitism by tptb or the ADL and that is what I meant by dangerous.

Also, this place should NOT be used to create division between races or religions, there is enough of that on the mainstream media, they promote the persecution of the muslim people every single day. IMO We can discuss just about anything, Jews included, on here as long as we dont appear to be trying to create divisions between people of whatever race/religion or creating race/religious hatred.

[steevo]

By the way I just want to point out that IMO the ADL are there to discredit anyone who speaks out against the official stories of the holocaust. They are part of the NWO or whatever you want to call it.

[phantom]

I didnt say that you should care what the ADL think of YOU or call you did I ?

Ok, fair enough!

What if the mainstream media decide to pick up on your posts ? It will be the David Icke Forum itself that suffers.

Suffers?

In what way can it suffer any more than it is already?

As I already pointed out, Icke is considered an anti-Semite so nothing I say here will reflect on him will it? He is already labelled.

That is why I suggested that you think about doing your own forum in the same way David Icke has done this one. It's just a thought

I have had my own site with a forum and chatroom but I had to give it up due to personal reasons. Here is a link to the way back machine for my site. (http:/www.freespeechwar.com (http://web.archive.org/web/*/http:/www.freespeechwar.com)) I plan on bringing it back to life sometime in the New Year.

I am aware that David Icke has been called an anti-semite by people who wish to silence him and discredit him. There are many threads on here now that could be seen as anti-semitism by tptb or the ADL and that is what I meant by dangerous.

How is it dangerous when Icke is already labelled an anti-Semite? What more could I do to tarnish his good name? Icke is not a mod here and I should imagine he has left this forum in the hands of some good people. People who can see the difference between those who wish to instigate hatred towards the jews and those who are looking for answers, or who have found answers to their questions regarding the holocaust, zionism, or israel and are looking to expressing them, in the hope of waking others up.

Also, this place should NOT be used to create division between races or religions, there is enough of that on the mainstream media, they promote the persecution of the muslim people every single day.

This place is not being used to create division. People are already divided here. Just read some of the post and replies. The world will never unite, no matter how much we want it to, There are just too many things that will keep us divided.

IMO We can discuss just about anything, Jews included, on here as long as we dont appear to be trying to create divisions between people of whatever race/religion or creating race/religious hatred.

It has nothing to do with dividing people. That is just simply another conditioned thought. There is no way all people of the world can give up their differences, as much as I would love to see it. You have to open that mind of yours a little bit more and face reality.

[phantom]

By the way I just want to point out that IMO the ADL are there to discredit anyone who speaks out against the official stories of the holocaust. They are part of the NWO or whatever you want to call it.

You don't have to tell me about the ADL, I am an old hand and have read enough to think I know how they work.

[adimon]

I can't believe this thread got to Page 3 without anyone asking Phantom the obvious question:

Do you think Hitler CAN be defended?

You've said before you don't think he was psychopathic, so tell us...WHAT do you think of Hitler as a man?

IMO Steevo is right - all you do is post provocative Jewish-related material to lure people into arguments against your revisionism. If you're that bothered maybe you SHOULD start your own anti-zionist forum.

[phantom]

Hi adimon

I thought you had the last word (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=207494&postcount=94) in the other thread. Now you want to ask me questions. Ok, fair enough. I will show you that I am more of a man than you by answering you questions.

Do you think Hitler CAN be defended?

That depends on what you mean. Can he be defended to the fact that he never ordered the genocide of the jews, of course, as I have already shown.

You've said before you don't think he was psychopathic, so tell us...WHAT do you think of Hitler as a man?

To be honest, I never knew him so I cannot tell you. I am not going to sing his praise if that is what you were hoping for.

IMO Steevo is right - all you do is post provocative Jewish-related material to lure people into arguments against your revisionism. If you're that bothered maybe you SHOULD start your own anti-zionist forum.

Of course you would say that, being a blind believer in the holocaust with a closed mind. As I said already, I might bring back my old site.

Now I have answered you, how about you getting back to answering my questions of the other threads.

[phantom]

Here is an interesting website adimon. Have a look and read about what kind of man Hitler was. ADOLF THE GREAT.COM (http://www.adolfthegreat.com/index.html)

"Hitler... one of the most significant figures who ever lived"

"Hitler will emerge from the hatred that surrounds him now as one of the most significant figures who ever lived...

He had a mystery about him in the way that he lived and in the manner of his death that will live and grow after him.

He had in him the stuff of which legends are made."

President J.F. Kennedy

"... Hitler is one of the greatest men. The old trust him, the young idolise him. It is the worship of a national hero who has served his country."

- David Lloyd George,
Prime Minister and Statesman,
Great Britain.

"In fifteen years that have followed this resolve, he (Hitler) has succeeded in restoring Germany to the most powerful position in Europe, and not only has he restored the position of his country, but he has even, to a very great extent, reversed the results of the Great War ... whatever else may be thought about these exploits they are certainly among the most remarkable in the whole history of the world."

- Winston Churchill,
Prime Minister and Statesman,
Great Britain.

"Hitler was right"
- British Attorney General
(Senior Nuremburg Prosecutor)

" I believe now that Hitler and the German people did not want war. But we declared war on Germany, intent on destroying it, in accordance with our principle of balance of power, and we were encouraged by the 'Americans' around Roosevelt.

We ignored Hitler's pleadings not to enter into war.
Now we are forced to realise that Hitler was right.

He offered us the co-operation of Germany... I feel ashamed and humiliated..."

(British Attorney General, Sir Hartley Shawcross,
Stourbridge, March 16th, 1984)

[adimon]

I will show you that I am more of a man than you[/quote[

:D

[QUOTE]That depends on what you mean.

Can you defend him being a warmongering dictator?

I am not going to sing his praise if that is what you were hoping for.

I wasn't hoping for anything. Still trying to 2nd guess me mate... :)

Now I have answered you, how about you getting back to answering my questions of the other threads.[/B]

How about no. Not on the subject of camps. Should I feel obliged to?

As for your selected quotes about Hitler, why did you not include some negative ones too?

[phantom]

Can you defend him being a warmongering dictator?

Yes I can.

How about no. Not on the subject of camps. Should I feel obliged to?

No, you should not feel obliged to but it would make interesting reading if you bothered to debate me on the six so called death camps.

I thought you was some kind of historian. If that is the case then you should be able to make mince meat out of me and my posts.

As for your selected quotes about Hitler, why did you not include some negative ones too?

Should I feel obliged to?

[challand]

Phantom, your either a member of the Aryan brotherhood or your a paid dis-info agent. I don't feel like I'm going out on a limb here either. Your always on about the Jews, Jews this Jews that, it doesn't fucking matter if they are Jews or not - they are all equally evil, no sense in putting it all on one specific fake religion.

You disgust me.

[phantom]

Hi challand

Phantom, your either a member of the Aryan brotherhood or your a paid dis-info agent.

Sorry to disappoint you challand but I am neither.

I don't feel like I'm going out on a limb here either. Your always on about the Jews, Jews this Jews that, it doesn't fucking matter if they are Jews or not - they are all equally evil, no sense in putting it all on one specific fake religion.

What are you ranting on about challand?

You disgust me.

Shame really but never mind.

[ssyx]

Phantom... You are so hateful and disgusting and racist etc etc... You are making me sick blah blah...
I think I shall read all of your posts and all of your threads, and never offer a decent shot at rebuttal, that'll show you.

:rolleyes:

[zarah]

Okay am I right in thinking here that one of the positive attributes of Icke's forum is that people with differing opinions are welcome?

This is the second time Ive read members personally attacking a member for offering either an alternative opinion to the mainstream or some factual information (in this case an interview of a Jewish person defending a man who has been accused of massacaring six million of his people).

Why is an interview of a learned man who is Jewish so pertinant? In my opinion it's because of the current legislation surrounding the 'holocaust'. Members talk of Phantom 'dividing' whilst they attack him to ensure exactly that.

If we're all about finding out the 'truth' it shouldn't matter how messy that truth is.

And umm a semite isn't actually just a Jew..I think we all know that :p

[phantom]

Hi ssyx

Phantom... You are so hateful and disgusting and racist etc etc... You are making me sick blah blah...

It must be because I am an anti-Semitic jew hating Nazi who adores Hitler. :rolleyes:

I think I shall read all of your posts and all of your threads, and never offer a decent shot at rebuttal, that'll show you.

That's not fair. I spend so much time reading alternative information and always offer open and honest debate regarding what I find out and I thought that you at least might take me up on the offer.

After all, the evidence to prove the holocaust is there in abundance and defeating me in a debate should be a cinch. :p

[phantom]

Hi zarah

Okay am I right in thinking here that one of the positive attributes of Icke's forum is that people with differing opinions are welcome?

You would think so wouldn't you Zarah.

This is the second time Ive read members personally attacking a member for offering either an alternative opinion to the mainstream or some factual information (in this case an interview of a Jewish person defending a man who has been accused of massacaring six million of his people).

If you look around this forum on some of my other threads you will see that I am attacked on a regular basis. I have offered to debate such people in an intelligent manner but they seem to prefer to either ignore the information or simply retreat to calling me names. It is something that I have had to get used to over the years when hitting upon such a touchy subject. :(

Why is an interview of a learned man who is Jewish so pertinant? In my opinion it's because of the current legislation surrounding the 'holocaust'. Members talk of Phantom 'dividing' whilst they attack him to ensure exactly that.

Ah, not only are you pretty Zarah you are intelligent to boot. Many of the males attacking me will now be turning on you too because they will find it difficult to accept such logic coming from someone as pretty, intelligent and honest as yourself.

If we're all about finding out the 'truth' it shouldn't matter how messy that truth is.

Well, what can I say to that? I will make no comment and let my attackers address that one.

And umm a semite isn't actually just a Jew..I think we all know that

That is correct and it must be said that Khazarian Ashkenazi jews, those who have hijacked the religion and the "state of israel", are not semitic people, it is a misnomer to use it to describe someone as a jew hater when discussing the power of the zionist Ashkenazi jews who just happen to be the jews who control the snakes head of the illuminati.

[nickatnoon61]

This is the second time you have had a pop at me dondaz. We are divided by many things and will never see eye to eye with everyone. Religion and politics are two of the major dividers we face.

The zionists owned MSM are another big divider, always pointing the finger at the Muslims every chance it gets yet turns a blind eye to the murder and ethnic cleansing israel is doing daily to the Palestinians.

You are delusional if you believe that the world will ever become united and people put their differences behind them and get along. You need to wake up.

You can call me whatever you like, it's like water off a ducks back to me. Why am I not allowed to use the term jew? Do you not believe in my right to free speech. Are you another hypocrite?

Anyway, check the source and you will see the title is, as I posted it. I had nothing to do with the title.



I have a pair of hairy balls and DID answer you back the last time you insulted me on another thread with your childish behaviour. I will never run away from someone such as you. The only way to shut me up is to ban me. I am doing nothing wrong that I would consider worthy of a ban. I have not insulted anyone when being on the end of an insult like now. I always answer questions as honestly as I can when called upon to do so. I am not a coward and there is not one reply to my posts that I have failed to answer.



You are giving me a good giggle. The professor is jewish and who is running away? I have nothing to hide. If you want to go head to head with me on a topic that regards jews then be my guest. How about you taking up the holocaust debate with me or the debate about the protocols of zion, or zionism, or israel, or anything thing else that involves jews that takes your fancy. How about the black slave trade that was controlled by jews. Come on dondaz, lets not pussy foot around, let your balls hang low and take me on bad man.phantom, this is the result of decades of brainwashing from the zionist-owned media, and indoctrination(education) systems throughout the world! There are very few like yourself who can see through it. Keep it up and don't let the IGNORANT,FLUORIDATED,ASPARTAME BRAINS, and their ADL masters get to you!!! You are special, like a lot of members on this forum who have been banned or moved on because they could see this forum growing darker by the day! And you don't have to be a rocket scientist to see the Zionist/Jewish stranglehold on our govts. and people!!!! I thought Dondaz was doing good work with his camera, but not everyone can see what you see and what I see. The flak we receive is a great indication of how true our postings really are! take care bud....:)
The Truth About the Talmud
A Documented Exposé of Supremacist Rabbinic Hate Literature

By Warrant of John 18:37, Galatians 4:16

Copyright ©2000-2006 by Michael A. Hoffman II All Rights Reserved

Introduction

The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."

The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians are very knowledgeable of the Old Testament. However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes' Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4:

"The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way."

Because they are not traffickers in Talmudic tradition, the black Ethiopian Jews are discriminated against and have been forbidden by the Zionists to perform marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state.

Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of Orthodox Judaism and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law). Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000 rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish leadership.

N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbi's authority:

"Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University's Elchanan Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the Talmud." (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38).

Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchik's knowledge of the Bible as the basis for being one of the leading authorities on Jewish law.

The rabbi's credentials are all predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. Other studies are clearly secondary. Britain's Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993 states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are "devoted to the Talmud to the exclusion of everything else."

The Talmud Nullifies the Bible

The Jewish Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in Jesus' time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because the Talmud nullifies the teachings of the Holy Bible.

Shmuel Safrai in The Literature of the Sages Part One (p.164), points out that in chapters 4 and 5 of the Talmud's Gittin Tractate, the Talmud nullifies the Biblical teaching concerning money-lending: "Hillel decreed the prozbul for the betterment of the world. The prozbul is a legal fiction which allows debts to be collected after the Sabbatical year and it was Hillel's intention thereby to overcome the fear that money-lenders had of losing their money."

The famous warning of Jesus Christ about the tradition of men that voids Scripture (Mark 7:1-13), is in fact, a direct reference to the Talmud, or more specifically, the forerunner of the first part of it, the Mishnah, which existed in oral form during Christ's lifetime, before being committed to writing. Mark chapter 7, from verse one through thirteen, represents Our Lord's pointed condemnation of the Mishnah.

Unfortunately, due to the abysmal ignorance of our day, the widespread "Judeo-Christian" notion is that the Old Testament is the supreme book of Judaism. But this is not so. The Pharisees teach for doctrine the commandments of rabbis, not God.

The Talmudic commentary on the Bible is their supreme law, and not the Bible itself. That commentary does indeed, as Jesus said, void the laws of God, not uphold them. As students of the Talmud, we know this to be true.

Jewish scholar Hyam Maccoby, in Judaism on Trial, quotes Rabbi Yehiel ben Joseph: "Further, without the Talmud, we would not be able to understand passages in the Bible...God has handed this authority to the sages and tradition is a necessity as well as scripture. The Sages also made enactments of their own...anyone who does not study the Talmud cannot understand Scripture."

There is a tiny Jewish sect which makes considerable effort to eschew Talmud and adhere to the Old Testament alone. These are the Karaites, a group which, historically, has been most hated and severely persecuted by orthodox Jewish rabbinate.

To the Mishnah the rabbis later added the Gemara (rabbinical commentaries). Together these comprise the Talmud. There are two versions, the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud.

The Babylonian Talmud is regarded as the authoritative version: "The authority of the Babylonian Talmud is also greater than that of the Jerusalem Talmud. In cases of doubt the former is decisive." (R.C. Musaph-Andriesse, From Torah to Kabbalah: A Basic Introduction to the Writings of Judaism, p. 40).

This study is based on the Jewish-authorized Babylonian Talmud. We have published herein the authenticated sayings of the Jewish Talmud. Look them up for yourself.

We publish the following irrefutable documentation in the hope of liberating all people, including Jewish people, from the corrosive delusions and racism of this Talmudic hate literature, which is the manual of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews the world over.

The implementation by Jewish supremacists of Talmudic hate literature has caused untold suffering throughout history and now, in occupied Palestine, it is used as a justification for the mass murder of Palestinian civilians. The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals.

Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud

Where a Jew Should Do Evil



Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.

Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis

Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God

Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.

Jews Have Superior Legal Status

Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."

Jews May Steal from Non-Jews

Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."

Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews

Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."

Jews May Lie to Non-Jews

Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.

Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human

Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

Insults Against Blessed Mary

Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.

Gloats over Christ Dying Young

A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."

Jesus in the Talmud:

Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ

While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for the Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming and admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as a sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish organizations make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy is so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern themselves with adverse reactions.

For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following statement, complete with Talmudic citations:

"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':

1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website) June 20, 2000.

[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared on their website at http://www.noahide.com on June 20, 2000, in the event that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].

Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:

Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."

Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."

Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.

"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.

"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life). She said to him, 'Swear it to me.'

"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied, 'When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.

"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."

In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who "uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation). The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in the Talmud).

"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law, Maimonides' Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity and on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of the wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21.

"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover does refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment in hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..." --Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.

"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned.

"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this popular tradition still persists...

"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an acronym for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used as an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such as Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser Jesus" and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.

Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books

Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.

Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books") will have no portion in the world to come.

Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.

Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).

Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud

Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.

Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.

Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).

Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."

Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that the Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with. On one of his whorehouse romps, Rabbi Eleazar leanred that there was one particular prostitute residing in a whorehouse near the sea, who would receive a bag of money for her services. He took a bag of money and went to her, crossing seven rivers to do so. During their intercourse the prostitute farted. After this the whore told Rabbi Eleazar: "Just as this gas will never return to my anus, Rabbi Eleazar will never get to heaven."

Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."

Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should "take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the limbs."

Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.

Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.

Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust

Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).

A Revealing Admission

Abodah Zarah 70a. The question was asked of the rabbi whether wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to the fact that the thieves might have been gentiles (a gentile touching wine would make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the thieves in Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews. (Also cf. Gemara Rosh Hashanah 25b).

Pharisaic Rituals

Erubin 21b. "Rabbi Akiba said to him, "Give me some water to wash my hands."

"It will not suffice for drinking," the other complained, "will it suffice for washing your hands?"

"What can I do?' the former replied, "when for neglecting the words of the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die than that I transgress against the opinion of my colleagues." [This is the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9].

Genocide Advocated by the Talmud

Minor Tractates. Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog ("Even the best of the gentiles should all be killed").

This passage is from the original Hebrew of the Babylonian Talmud as quoted by the 1907 Jewish Encyclopedia, published by Funk and Wagnalls and compiled by Isidore Singer, under the entry, "Gentile," (p. 617).

This original Talmud passage has been concealed in translation. The Jewish Encyclopedia states that, "...in the various versions the reading has been altered, 'The best among the Egyptians' being generally substituted." In the Soncino version: "the best of the heathens" (Minor Tractates, Soferim 41a-b].

Israelis annually take part in a national pilgrimage to the grave of Simon ben Yohai, to honor this rabbi who advocated the extermination of non-Jews. (Jewish Press, June 9, 1989, p. 56B).

On Purim, Feb. 25, 1994, Israeli army officer Baruch Goldstein, an orthodox Jew from Brooklyn, massacred 40 Palestinian civilians, including children, while they knelt in prayer in a mosque. Goldstein was a disciple of the late Brooklyn Rabbi Meir Kahane, who told CBS News that his teaching that Arabs are "dogs" is derived "from the Talmud." (CBS 60 Minutes, "Kahane").

University of Jerusalem Prof. Ehud Sprinzak described Kahane and Goldstein's philosophy: "They believe it's God's will that they commit violence against goyim, a Hebrew term for non-Jews." (NY Daily News, Feb. 26, 1994, p. 5).

Rabbi Yitzhak Ginsburg declared, "We have to recognize that Jewish blood and the blood of a goy are not the same thing." (NY Times, June 6, 1989, p.5).

Rabbi Yaacov Perrin said, "One million Arabs are not worth a Jewish fingernail." (NY Daily News, Feb. 28, 1994, p.6).

Talmudic Doctrine: Non-Jews are not Human

The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals, and specifically dehumanizes Gentiles as not being descendants of Adam. Here are some of the Talmud passages which relate to this topic.

Kerithoth 6b: Uses of Oil of Anointing. "Our Rabbis have taught: He who pours the oil of anointing over cattle or vessels is not guilty; if over gentiles (goyim) or the dead, he is not guilty. The law relating to cattle and vessels is right, for it is written: "Upon the flesh of man (Adam), shall it not be poured (Exodus 30:32]); and cattle and vessels are not man (Adam).

"Also with regard to the dead, [it is plausible] that he is exempt, since after death one is called corpse and not a man (Adam). But why is one exempt in the case of gentiles (goyim); are they not in the category of man (Adam)? No, it is written: 'And ye my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, are man" (Adam); [Ezekiel 34:31]: Ye are called man (Adam) but gentiles (goyim) are not called man (Adam)."

In the preceding passage, the rabbis are discussing the portion of the Mosaic law which forbids applying the holy oil to men.

The Talmud states that it is not a sin to apply the holy oil to Gentiles, because Gentiles are not human beings (i.e. are not of Adam).

Another example from tractate Yebamoth 61a: "It was taught: And so did R. Simeon ben Yohai state (61a) that the graves of gentiles (goyim) do not impart levitical uncleanness by an ohel [standing or bending over a grave], for it is said, 'And ye my sheep the sheep of my pasture, are men (Adam), [Ezekiel 34:31]; you are called men (Adam) but the idolaters are not called men (Adam)."

The Old Testament Mosaic law states that touching a human corpse or the grave of a human imparts uncleanness to those who touch it. But the Talmud teaches that if a Jew touches the grave of a Gentile, the Jew is not rendered unclean, since Gentiles are not human (not of Adam).

From Baba Mezia 114b: ""A Jewish priest was standing in a graveyard. When asked why he was standing there in apparent violation of the Mosaic law, he replied that it was permissible, since the law only prohibits Jews from coming into contact with the graves of humans (Adamites), and he was standing in a gentile graveyard. For it has been taught by Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: 'The graves of gentiles [goyim] do not defile. For it is written, 'And ye my flock, the flock of my pastures, are men (Adam)' (Ezekiel 34:31); only ye are designated men (Adam)."

Ezekiel 34:31 is the alleged Biblical proof text repeatedly cited in the preceding three Talmud passages. But Ezekiel 34:31 does not in fact support the Talmudic notion that only Israelites are human. What these rabbinical, anti-Gentile racists and ideologues have done in asserting the preceding absurdities about Gentiles is distort an Old Testament passage in order to justify their bigotry.

In Berakoth 58a the Talmud uses Ezekiel 23:20 as proof of the sub-human status of gentiles. It also teaches that anyone (even a Jewish man) who reveals this Talmudic teaching about non-Jews deserves death, since revealing it makes Gentiles wrathful and causes the repression of Judaism.

The Talmudic citation of this scripture from Ezekiel as a "proof-text" is specious, since the passage does not prove that Gentiles are animals. The passage from Ezekiel only says that some Egyptians had large genital organs and copious emissions. This does not in any way prove or even connote that the Egyptians being referred to in the Bible were considered animals. Once again, the Talmud has falsified the Bible by means of distorted interpretation.

Other Talmud passages which expound on Ezekiel 23:20 in this racist fashion are: Arakin 19b, Berakoth 25b, Niddah 45a, Shabbath 150a, Yebamoth 98a. Moreover, the original text of Sanhedrin 37a applies God's approval only to the saving of Jewish lives (cf. the Hesronot Ha-shas, Cracow, 1894).

Moses Maimonides: Advocate of Extermination

We will now examine the post-Talmudic commentator Rambam (Moses Maimonides). This revered "sage" taught that Christians should be exterminated. He has the highest stature in Judaism:

"Moses Maimonides is considered the greatest codifier and philosopher in Jewish history. He is often affectionately referred to as the Rambam, after the initials of his name and title, Rabenu Moshe Ben Maimon, "Our Rabbi, Moses son of Maimon." [Maimonides' Principles, edited by Aryeh Kaplan, Union of Orthodox Jewish Congregations of America,, p. 3].

Here is what Maimonides (Rambam) taught concerning saving people's lives, especially concerning saving the lives of gentiles and Christians, or even Jews who dared to deny the "divine inspiration" of the Talmud:

Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Moznaim Publishing Corporation, Brooklyn, New York, 1990, Chapter 10, English Translation), p. 184: "Accordingly, if we see an idolater (gentile) being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him." The Hebrew text of the Feldheim 1981 edition of Mishnah Torah states this as well.

Immediately after Maimonides' admonition that it is a duty for Jews not to save a drowning or perishing gentile, he informs us of the Talmudic duty of Jews towards Christians, and also towards Jews who deny the Talmud. Maimonides, Mishnah Torah, (Chapter 10), p. 184:

"It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot."

The Jewish publisher's commentary accompanying the preceding statement of Maimonides states that Jesus was an example of a min (plural: minnim).

The commentary also states that the students of Tzadok were defined as those Jews who deny the truth of the Talmud and who uphold only the written law (i.e. the Old Testament).

According to Maimonides' Principles, p. 5, Maimonides "spent twelve years extracting every decision and law from the Talmud, and arranging them all into 14 systematic volumes. The work was finally completed in 1180, and was called Mishnah Torah, or "Code of the Torah."

Maimonides taught in another part of the Mishnah Torah that gentiles are not human: "Man alone, and not vessels, can contract uncleanness by carriage. ...The corpse of a gentile, however, does not convey uncleanness by overshadowing. ...a gentile does not contract corpse uncleanness; and if a gentile touches, carries, or overshadows a corpse he is as one who did not touch it.

"To what is this like? It is like a beast which touches a corpse or overshadows it. And this applies not to corpse uncleanness only but to any other kind of uncleanness: neither gentiles nor cattle are susceptible to any uncleanness." (The Code of Maimonides, vol. 10, translated by Herbert Danby, Yale University Press, New Haven, 1954, pp. 8-9).

Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Rotze'ach 2:11: "A Jew who killed a righteous gentile is not executed in a court of law. It says in Exodus 21:14, 'If a man schemes against his fellow man and kills the man deliberately, take him away from the altar and put him to death.' But a gentile is not considered a man, and even more so, a Jew is not executed for killing an unrighteous gentile."

The Schindler's List Quote

The Talmud (i.e., the Babylonian Talmud) text of Sanhedrin 37a restricts the duty to save life to saving only Jewish lives.

The book on Hebrew censorship, written by Jews themselves (Hesronot Ha-shas), notes that some Talmud texts use the universalist phrase:

"Whoever destroys the life of a single human being...it is as if he had destroyed an entire world; and whoever preserves the life of a single human being ...it is as if he had preserved an entire world."

However, Hesronot Ha-shas points out that these are not the authentic words of the original Talmud.

In other words, the preceding universalist rendering is not the authentic text of the Talmud and thus, for example, this universalist version which Steven Spielberg in his famous movie, Schindler's List attributed to the Talmud (and which became the motto of the movie on posters and in advertisements), is a hoax and constitutes propaganda intended to give a humanistic gloss to a Talmud which is, in its essence, racist and chauvinist hate literature.

In the authentic, original Talmud text it states that "whoever preserves a single soul of Israel, it is as if he had preserved an entire world" (emphasis supplied). The authentic Talmud text sanctions only the saving of Jewish lives.

Jewish Deception and Dissimulation

The response of the orthodox rabbis to documentation regarding the racism and hatred in their sacred texts is simply to brazenly lie, in keeping with the Talmud's Baba Kamma 113a which states that Jews may use lies ("subterfuge") to circumvent a Gentile.

The Simon Wiesenthal Center, a multi-million dollar rabbinical propaganda center dispatched Rabbi Daniel Landes in 1995 to deny that the Talmud dehumanizes non-Jews. "This is utter rot," he said. His proof? Why, his word, of course.

Lying to "circumvent a Gentile" has a long patrimony in Judaism. Take for example the 13th century Talmud debate in Paris between Nicholas of Donin, a Jewish convert to Christianity, whom Hyam Maccoby admits had "a good knowledge of the Talmud" ( "The Jews on Trial," p. 26) and Rabbi Yehiel. Yehiel was not under threat of death, bodily injury, imprisonment or fine. Yet he brazenly lied during the course of the debate.

When asked by Donin whether there were attacks on Jesus in the Talmud, Yehiel denied that there were any. Donin, a Hebrew and Aramaic scholar, knew this to be false. Hyam Maccoby, a 20th century Jewish commentator on the debate, defends Rabbi Yehiel's lying in this way:

"The question may be asked, however, whether Yehiel really believed that Jesus was not mentioned in the Talmud, or whether he put this forward as an ingenious ploy in the desperate situation in which he found himself...It would certainly have been pardonable of the rabbi to attempt some condonation in which he did not fully believe, to prevent such tyrannical proceedings by one religious culture against another." ( Maccoby, "The Jews on Trial," p. 28).

This is how Jewish denial of the existence of hateful Talmud texts is justified to this day. A fanciful word for Jewish lying is conjured ("condonation") and deemed "pardonable," while any scrutiny of Jewish holy books by Christian investigators is characterized as a "tyrannical proceeding."

In 1994, Rabbi Tzvi Marx, director of Applied Education at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem, made a remarkable admission concerning how Jewish rabbis in the past have issued two sets of texts: the authentic Talmudic texts with which they instruct their own youth in the Talmud schools (yeshiviot) and "censured and amended" versions which they disseminate to gullible non-Jews for public consumption.

Rabbi Marx states that in the version of Maimonides' teachings published for public consumption, Maimonides is made to say that whoever kills a human being transgresses the law.

But, Rabbi Marx points out "...this only reflects the censured and amended printed text, whereas the original manuscripts have it only as 'whoever kills an Israelite."(Tikkun: A Bi-Monthly Jewish Critique May-June, 1994).

The Jewish book, Hesronot Ha-shas ("that which is removed from the Talmud"), is important in this regard. (Cf. William Popper, The Censorship of Hebrew Books p. 59).

Hesronot Ha-shas was reprinted in 1989 by Sinai Publishing of Tel-Aviv. Hesronot Ha-shas is valuable because it lists both the original Talmud texts that were later changed or omitted, and the falsified texts cited for Gentile consumption as authentic.

Historian William Popper states: "It was not always that long passages...were censored...but often single words alone were omitted...Often, in these cases, another method of correction was used in place of omission--substitution." (Cf. William Popper, The Censorship of Hebrew Books pp. 58-59).

For example, the translators of the English Soncino version of the Talmud sometimes render the Hebrew word goyim (Gentiles) under any number of disguise words such as "heathen, Cuthean, Kushite, Egyptian, idolater" etc. But these are actually references to Gentiles (all non-Jews). Footnotes for certain passages in the Soncino Talmud translation state: "Cuthean (Samaritan) was here substituted for the original goy..."

The heirs of the Pharisees often deny the existence of the Talmud passages here cited, in order to brazenly claim that such passages are the "fabrications of anti-Semites."

In 1994, the 80 year old Lady Jane Birdwood was arrested and prosecuted in a criminal court in London, England for the "crime" of publishing in her pamphlet, The Longest Hatred, the truthful statement that the Talmud contains anti-Gentile and anti-Christian passages. (She was accused of violating the Public Order Act of 1986).

In the course of her Orwellian thought-crime trial, which was ignored by the U.S. media, a rabbi was called as a prosecution witness. The rabbi proceeded to flatly deny that the Talmud contained anti-Gentile or anti-Christian passages and on the basis of the rabbi's "prestige," this elderly and ailing woman was sentenced to three months in jail and fined the equivalent of $1,000.

"Judeo-Christian" Response to the Talmud

Neither the modern popes or the modern heads of Protestantism, have ever insisted that the rabbis of Judaism repudiate or condemn the racism in the Talmud or the murderous hate for Christians and gentiles expressed within it. On the contrary, the heads of Churchianity have urged the followers of Christ to obey, honor and support the followers of the Talmud. Therefore, it should be obvious that these Catholic and Protestant leaders are the worst betrayers of Jesus Christ on earth today. (Cf. Matthew 23:13-15; I Thess. 2:14-16; Titus 1:14; Luke 3:8-9; Rev. 3:9).

Non-Jews are "Supernal Refuse"

Moreover, not only Christians but non-Christians of all races are regarded as "supernal refuse" (garbage) by Talmud teachers such as the founder of Habad-Lubavitch, Rabbi Shneur Zalman.

This was analyzed in the Jewish magazine, New Republic: "...there are some powerful ironies in Habad's new messianic universalism, in its mission to the gentiles; and surely the most unpleasant of them concerns Habad's otherwise undisguised and even racial contempt for the goyim.

"...medieval Jewish theologians--most notably the poet and philosopher Judah Ha-Levi in twelfth-century Spain and the mystic Judah Loewe in sixteenth-century Prague--sought to define the Jewish distinction racially rather than spiritually...this...view, according to which there is something innately superior about the Jews, was rehabilitated in its most extreme form by Shneur Zalman of Lyady. The founder of Lubavitcher Hasidism taught that there is a difference of essence between the souls of Jews and the souls of gentiles, that only in the Jewish soul does there reside a spark of divine vitality.

"As for the goyim...Zalman's attitude (was): 'Gentile souls are of a completely different and inferior order. They are totally evil, with no redeeming qualities whatsoever.'

"Consequently, references to gentiles in Rabbi Shneur Zalman's teachings are invariably invidious. Their (non-Jews) material abundance derives from supernal refuse. Indeed, they themselves derive from refuse, which is why they are more numerous than the Jews, as the pieces of chaff outnumber the kernels...All Jews were innately good, all gentiles innately evil.

"...Moreover, this characterization of gentiles as being inherently evil, as being spiritually as well as biologically inferior to Jews, has not in any way been revised in later Habad writing." --The New Republic, May 4, 1992. Also cf. Roman A. Foxbrunner, Habad: The Hasidism of Shneur Zalman of Lyady (Northvale, New Jersey, Jason Aronson, Inc., 1993) pp. 108-109.

U.S. Government Lays Groundwork for Talmudic Courts

"Our" government under Presidents Reagan, Bush and Clinton, has provided, under the euphemism of education (for example, House Joint Resolution 173 and Public Law 102-14), a groundwork for the establishment of Talmudic "courts of justice" to be administered by disciples of Shneur Zalman's Chabad successor, Rabbi Menachem Mendel Schneerson.

Maimonides ruled that it is a Jewish court -- or a court appointed by Jewish authority --that enforces obedience and passes judgment on Gentiles, as well as promulgating legislation by court order for that purpose. Maimonides further decreed that any non-Jewish nation "not subject to our jurisdiction" (tahaht yadeinu) will be the target of Jewish holy war. (Cf. Hilkhot Melakhim 8:9-10; 10:11. Also cf. Gerald J. Blidstein, "Holy War in Maimonidean Law," in Perspectives on Maimonides [Oxford, England: Oxford Univ. Press, 1991].

These courts are to be convened allegedly under the "Noahide Laws" (proscriptions against idolatry supposedly based on the covenant with Noah). The U.S. presidents and Congress urged the adoption of the "Noahide" Laws as interpreted by Chabad-Lubavitch Grand Rabbi Schneerson.

Prof. Easterly of the Southern University Law Center, a Jewish legal expert, has compared this Public law 102-14 to the "first rays of dawn" which "evidence the rising of a still unseen sun."

The Jewish Encyclopedia envisages a Noahide regime as a possible world order immediately preceding the universal reign of the Talmud.

It has to be understood that we are not dealing with the Noah of the Bible when the religion of Judaism refers to "Noahide law," but the Noahide law as understood and interpreted by the absolute system of falsification that constitutes the Talmud.

Under the Talmud's counterfeit Noahide Laws, the worship of Jesus is forbidden under penalty of death, since such worship of Christ is condemned by Judaism as idolatry. Meanwhile various forms of incest are permitted under the Talmudic understanding of the Noahide code. (Enziklopediya Talmudit, note 1, pp. 351-352).

Furthermore, all non-Jews would have the legal status of ger toshav ("resident alien," cf. Alan Unterman, Dictionary of Jewish Lore and Legend [London: Thames and Hudson, 1991], p. 148), even in their own land; as for example in occupied Palestine where newly arrived Khazars from Russia have an automatic right to housing and citizenship, while two million Palestinian refugees who either fled or were expelled by the Israelis, are forbidden the right of return.

Resident alien status has been clearly delineated in scholarly articles in leading Jewish publications. For example, Hebrew University Professor Mordechai Nisan, basing his exposition on Maimonides, stated that a non-Jew permitted to reside in a land ruled by Jewish law "must accept paying a tax and suffering the humiliation of servitude."

If Gentiles refuse to live a life of inferiority, then this signals their rebellion and the unavoidable necessity of Jewish warfare against their very presence. [Cf. Mordechai Nisan, Kivunim (official publication of the World Zionist Organization), August, 1984, pp. 151-156].

At a symposium ("Is Autonomy for Resident Aliens Feasible?") organized by Israeli Minister of Education Shulamit Aloni, the Israeli Chief Rabbi Shlomo Goren repeated the Talmudic teaching on resident aliens: that Judaism forbids "granting any national rights" to them. He ruled that such "Autonomy is tantamount to a denial of the Jewish religion." (Nadav Shraggai, Ha'aretz, Oct. 14, 1992).

American taxpayers' subsidy of the so-called "U.S. Holocaust Museum" in Washington, D.C., is yet another indicator of the gradual establishment of a Jewish state religion in the U.S. This "Holocaust museum" excludes any reference to holocausts perpetrated by Jewish Communists against Christians in Russia and Eastern Europe, from 1917 onward.

The focus of the museum is almost entirely on Jewish suffering. Holocausts perpetrated by Israelis against Arabs in Lebanon and Palestine since 1948 are nowhere to be found in the exhibits of the U.S. "Holocaust Museum," which functions more like a synagogue than a repository of objective historical information.

It is through the rapid emergence of this ostensibly secular but all-pervasive "Holocaustianity" -- whereby the religion of Judaism is gaining enormous power and influence as mankind's supreme ethos and the creed of God's Holy People.

Jewish Law Requires Christians be Executed

Israeli "Torah scholars" have ruled that:

"The Torah maintains that the righteous of all nations have a place in the World to Come. But not all religious Gentiles earn eternal life by virtue of observing their religion...And while the Christians do generally accept the Hebrew Bible as truly from God, many of them (those who accept the so-called divinity of Jesus) are idolaters according to the Torah, punishable by death, and certainly will not enjoy the World to Come."

--Israeli Mechon-Mamre website, June 26, 2000; 12 Hayyim Vital St., Jerusalem, Occupied Palestine. ("Mechon Mamre is a small group of Torah scholars in Israel...").

[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this statement from the Israeli "Mechon-Mamre Torah Scholars," as it appeared on their website at http://www.mechon-mamre.org/jewfaq/gentiles.htm on June 26, 2000, in the event that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].

Jewish Superstitions

It is not for nothing that the authoritative edition of the Talmud is known as the Babylonian Talmud. As Christians misled by their Judaizing preachers and popes are increasingly consulting Jewish rabbinical sources for a "pure" understanding of the Old Testament, they are unknowingly consulting the occult.

Judaism is the religion of the Pharisees and the patrimony of Babylon, from whence the Talmudic and Kabbalistic traditions of Judaism ultimately derive. Orthodox Judaism's other sacred book, the Kabbalah, is filled with astrological teachings, fortune-telling, gematria, necromancy and demonology.

The photograph on the cover of this publication's hard copy version shows an orthodox Jew performing a ritual to transfer his sins to the chicken he is waving over his head. This is pernicious superstition.

Furthermore, the Israeli "Star of David," is actually nothing of the kind, but rather an occult hexagram, a yantra of the androgyne, which became associated with the Khazars in 14th century Bohemia. (The misnamed "state of Israel" was founded in 1948 in an alliance between Jewish Communists and atheistic Zionists, with crucial U.N. recognition provided by Soviet Communist dictator Joseph Stalin).

Christians might find it eye-opening to visit a Hasidic Jewish area during "Purim" and observe the grotesque, Halloween-like cavorting. Though the Purim festival uses the Book of Esther as its supposed proof-text, in practice the Jewish celebration of Purim is little more than a Bacchanal (cf. "Superstitions said legacy from Jewish ancestors," Canadian Jewish News, Nov. 16, 1989, p. 58).

Orthodox rabbis place curses, cast spells and imagine they have powers greater than God, derived from their study of the Sefer Yezriah, (a book of Kabbalistic magic). Christians are trafficking in Babylonian paganism when they defer to the rabbis of Judaism.

Sodomy in the synagogue

From a report published in the Hebrew language Israeli newspaper Ha'aretz



"...for many years, (Talmud scribe) Yaakov Yitzhak Brizel...sodomized ultra-Orthodox boys. The greatest rabbis knew - and did nothing...

"At the age of 11, Moisheleh, the strongest fellow in the talmud torah (school for ultra-Orthodox boys), went up to Shaiya Brizel and said to him: 'Kid, I want you know that your father is not the holy man you think he is. He is a homo.' ...Brizel was a scion of the Brizel family, which founded ...the mysterious organization that imposes moral order on the ultra-Orthodox ghetto...

"Had the father, Yaakov Yitzhak Brizel ...contented himself with homosexual relations with adults, it is reasonable to suppose that we would never have heard his son's story.

"However, in his book, The Silence of the Ultra-Orthodox, published a few weeks ago, the son claims that for decades his father ...sodomized yeshiva students. He committed the act in empty synagogues during the hours between prayers and in other places.

"The greatest of the ultra-Orthodox rabbis...like Rabbi Landau and the halachic sage Shmuel Halevi Hausner of Bnei Brak, knew and kept silent. The father was a Hasid heart and soul, and went to a number of rebbes.... the twin brother of the rebbe from Rehovot, the Rebbe of Kretschnif in Kiryat Gat, was happy to accept the father among his followers. Ultimately, claims Brizel, it was not easy for the Rebbe from Kiryat Gat to be picky when he could win such a respected adherent.

"...The proud father with the look of an honored rebbe, who observed all the commandments from the slightest to the most important, used to pray at a certain yeshiva with the young boys. There, claims Shaiya Brizel, he hunted his victims. When the head of the yeshiva discovered the true reason that the respected Torah scribe was praying fervently at his yeshiva, he did not contact the police...

"Before the publication of his book, Shaiya Brizel met with the yeshiva head. 'You are right that we covered up for him,' admitted the man. 'I and a few other rabbis...I was busy trying to calm things down and hushing up the affair so that it would not get publicized.'

"(The son) published the book using real names. His entire family and almost all the rabbis appear under their own names. Only the names of some of the localities and the head of the yeshiva are disguised. To protect himself from a legal point of view, Brizel held a series of conversations with members of his family and rabbis, in which he demanded explanations of why they had covered up for his father's misbehavior. He secretly recorded all these conversations, even with his mother.

"If I had written without the names it would have been fiction and this certainly did not suit me," he explained. 'I wanted things to change, for ultra-Orthodox society to know that it can attempt to hide things and be hidden, but even if it takes 30 years, a Golem will always rise up against its creator and reveal everything. In this case, I was the Golem.'

"When Rachel Brizel, the daughter of a good Bnei Brak family, married an arranged match from the glorious Brizel family, she had no idea that she was destroying her own life. After six months, she caught her husband having sex with another man. In that case, at least it was with an adult.

"Shaiya Brizel relates that some of the boys with whom his father had relations sent letters of complaint to their own fathers; in the discreet ultra-Orthodox society they had no one else to whom they could complain.



Shaiya Brizel: author of a book telling of sodomy in the synagogue

"When she read these letters, my mother went out of her mind,' writes Brizel. 'Every such letter made her want to demand a divorce. Again and again batteries of mediators, the Brizel rabbis, would show up, whose job it was to calm her down so that, heaven forbid, she would not destroy the good name of the Brizel family.

"They could live with the fact that one of their own had raped minors, but for them divorce was an impossible situation.'

"...Twice, once during prayers in a synagogue, and once during a Gemara (Talmud) study hour at Rabbi Eliezer Shach's Ponevezh Yeshiva, ultra-Orthodox men who were strangers to him touched his sexual organ, presumably on the assumption that he followed in his father's footsteps. The first time, he made a fuss, only to discover that the only thing that interested the people there was to hush the whole thing up. The second time, he made do with a whispered warning to the man.

"Shaiya Brizel is now 36 and the father of three; he works as an accountant.

"His father, 65, was forced to leave home several years ago and return to his elderly parents' apartment. Shaiya wrote this book after a suicide attempt in June.

'For all those years I was half dead. For the past five years I have been getting psychological treatment. During my talks with the psychologist I decided that I was going to spew out all this ugliness in the form of a book.'

"He took into account that there would be violent reactions to the book...which only came out a few weeks ago...Brizel suffers from a serious heart defect, which could cause his death. As a way of protecting himself, he has deposited a letter with three lawyers that contains serious allegations about the Eda Haredit, and he has informed the relevant people.

"Recently, he has moved to a new apartment, and he lives in the National Religious sector of a mixed community of National Religious and ultra-Orthodox families. Naturally, he started praying at the only Hasidic synagogue in the settlement. After the book came out, associates of the local rebbe (rabbi) informed him that he was persona non grata.

"Ironically, this same rebbe had come to the area after being compelled to leave several other communities on suspicion of having sodomized his pupils. In ultra-Orthodox society, revealing that acts of sodomy have been committed is a far graver offense than committing them.

"On the day the book was published, Brizel met with the head of the Hachemei Lublin Yeshiva, Rabbi Avraham Vazner. 'He told me that publishing the book was a million times worse than what my father had done...'

"Ha'aretz has been unable to obtain a response from Rabbi Yaakov Yitzhak Brizel. At his parents' home, a woman replied: "We don't care. Shaiya is a liar and there is nothing more to be said."

"Ha'aretz also requested the Brizels' response through the Eda Haredit activist Yehuda Meshi- Zahav. By the time the article went to press, there was no response through this channel either.

"Several weeks ago the father responded to the women's magazine La'isha, saying that he would sue the publishers, which has not yet happened. It is unlikely that it will happen.

"Shaiya Brizel was ready to put off publication of the book, on condition that the family sue him in a rabbinical court, in which the affair would be aired. He has said that no one in the family was prepared to take up the challenge.

"In the conversation with La'isha, the father said that he was indeed a homosexual, 'But I have had treatment and today I am no longer like that. All this is behind me.'

"In reply to a question as to whether he had sexual relations with minors, he replied: 'Perhaps I will talk about that some other time.' He accused his son Shaiya of being 'the only one who is after me. He has destroyed my life...He wrote this only for the money. He wanted money from me...Because of him I separated from my wife.'

"Shaiya's sister, Rivka Hubert, spoke with great anger to the La'isha reporter about the fact that her brother had revealed the names of the persons involved, and declared: 'We deny everything it says in the book."

[End quote]

Source: Ha'aretz, "Israel's Leading Daily Newspaper," Shevat 25, 5760 (Feb. 1, 2000).

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[paganus]

Okay am I right in thinking here that one of the positive attributes of Icke's forum is that people with differing opinions are welcome?

This is the second time Ive read members personally attacking a member for offering either an alternative opinion to the mainstream or some factual information (in this case an interview of a Jewish person defending a man who has been accused of massacaring six million of his people).

Why is an interview of a learned man who is Jewish so pertinant? In my opinion it's because of the current legislation surrounding the 'holocaust'. Members talk of Phantom 'dividing' whilst they attack him to ensure exactly that.

If we're all about finding out the 'truth' it shouldn't matter how messy that truth is.

And umm a semite isn't actually just a Jew..I think we all know that :ppeople are beginning to wake to that truth.some in the u.s are making independent communitys in defiance of the zog.when debate is stiffled its because there is something to hide.imho

[nickatnoon61]

people are beginning to wake to that truth.some in the u.s are making independent communitys in defiance of the zog.when debate is stiffled its because there is something to hide.imho Yes paganus, and also in Australia. http://loveforlife.com.au/flier

[zarah]

people are beginning to wake to that truth.some in the u.s are making independent communitys in defiance of the zog.when debate is stiffled its because there is something to hide.imho

Make you right on that, matey

[nickatnoon61]

Hi challand



:eek: A "suspiciously dis-info sounding post":confused:

Well, I am surprised.

I am not a fan of Alex Jones, although he does deliver some good information. I am a little dubious of the man considering he is pushing all this NWO/illuminati info and 9/11 among other things at us, yet he fails to mentions jews, whether zionist, mossad or even jesuits for that matter.

Do I not have a right to air my feelings about this man? Do I have to take him for granted as a major truth seeker and sayer? No I don't.

As for posting on suspicious topics like the holocaust, what is wrong with that? Why should I accept the official version when so much has been proven to be lies, by both revisionists and holocaust historians/scholars alike.

What are you trying to say?

Just because I look at things different to you does not in any way mean I am a dis-info agent or telling lies. If that is your take on things, why don't you rebut the several holocaust posts I have made instead of accusing me or insinuating I am a dis-info agent of some kind? Good answwer phantom, maybe a few will snap out of their fluoridated fog!!!!

[nickatnoon61]

This is the second time you have had a pop at me dondaz. We are divided by many things and will never see eye to eye with everyone. Religion and politics are two of the major dividers we face.

The zionists owned MSM are another big divider, always pointing the finger at the Muslims every chance it gets yet turns a blind eye to the murder and ethnic cleansing israel is doing daily to the Palestinians.

You are delusional if you believe that the world will ever become united and people put their differences behind them and get along. You need to wake up.

You can call me whatever you like, it's like water off a ducks back to me. Why am I not allowed to use the term jew? Do you not believe in my right to free speech. Are you another hypocrite?

Anyway, check the source and you will see the title is, as I posted it. I had nothing to do with the title.



I have a pair of hairy balls and DID answer you back the last time you insulted me on another thread with your childish behaviour. I will never run away from someone such as you. The only way to shut me up is to ban me. I am doing nothing wrong that I would consider worthy of a ban. I have not insulted anyone when being on the end of an insult like now. I always answer questions as honestly as I can when called upon to do so. I am not a coward and there is not one reply to my posts that I have failed to answer.



You are giving me a good giggle. The professor is jewish and who is running away? I have nothing to hide. If you want to go head to head with me on a topic that regards jews then be my guest. How about you taking up the holocaust debate with me or the debate about the protocols of zion, or zionism, or israel, or anything thing else that involves jews that takes your fancy. How about the black slave trade that was controlled by jews. Come on dondaz, lets not pussy foot around, let your balls hang low and take me on bad man. phantom, you are my hero!!! ha ha I also have some Jewish allies against the NWO who expose the hypocricy and pure evil of the Zionist movement. I posted Dr. Gabriel Cousens (Jew) on many occasions, in the health threads BECAUSE IT IS VITAL BENEVOLENT INFO. I don't care if these evil mfers are Irish,Cambodian,Swedish...or whatever!!! It just so happens that they are Jewish! Not all, but a highly disproportionate amount of them. Anyone who takes the time to research and use their own gut feelings/experiences, will come to the same conclusion! There are a lot on here whose knee-jerk reaction is to jump to the defense of the Jews. They don't know any better, and are too lazy, or too stupid to look at anything other than that which has been handed to them by the ZOG media/education system! I got some Matza Ball soup fer ya!!!

[paganus]

Yes paganus, and also in Australia. http://loveforlife.com.au/flierthats very interesting! wonder how long till they do a 'ruby ridge' in aus?:mad:

[haukipesukone]

Pikajew!!

[sophia_h]

Thank you haukipesukone


for resurrecting this thread

phantom is articulate and focused
and patient with babblers..;)

I have enjoyed reading all of this.

here is another piece that shines some
light on the DIVERSITY of veiws on

AH and the NSDAP by jews:

..

This essay is in commemoration of only those Jews
and Mischlinge who fought and died for Adolf Hitler.

Part I: Jews Had Guns in Hitler’s Reich

Courtesy of Rense.com



According to Heinz Weichardt (2004), “The next anti-Jewish measure was the Arier paragraph, which eliminated non-Aryans from all government positions. Everybody with one quarter or more Jewish background was considered non-Aryan.



Exempt from this law were all Jews who had fought for Germany in the World War or had lost sons during that war or who already held government positions before that war. Certain exemptions for meritorious individuals could be granted.


All non-Aryans in government positions had to be retired (not fired!) with their pensions forthcoming. Businesses, large or small, were not affected; doctors could continue their practices but were not compensated for treating patients insured under the government-run health plan. Many, many—including high party officials—stayed with their Jewish family doctors who had treated them for a long time.

The number of university students of three-quarter or all-Jewish ancestry were limited to the percentage of their numbers in the populace. Still pretty good, when compared with the experience of deserving whites under Jewish-imposed affirmative action in America. Students with one-half or less Jewish ancestry were under no restrictions at all, and even had, at a later date, to join the nationalist student organization. They were not permitted to join the SA or SS. Joining a nationalist organization became, in effect, obligatory for all Aryan students.

The immediate effect on the private lives of most Jews was in the beginning only minimal. Some personal experiences will show this.

Since my early teens I had been an avid gun lover. In Austria, where we lived at the time, there were in effect no restrictions on the possession of handguns or rifles. If there were, they certainly were not enforced. At the age of fifteen, I could walk into one of the finest gun shops in Vienna and purchase any weapon in the store, as long as I had the necessary money.

Unfortunately I didn't, but after some time I had scraped together a sufficient amount to start my modest collection by acquiring three low-priced handguns. Shortly thereafter, in 1929, we moved to Berlin.

In Germany, under the Weimar Republic, one had to register each gun with the police. There were no restrictions on possession except if you wanted to carry them. In this case you had to have a hunting license which required a lengthy course in gun handling, marksmanship, game laws and the handling of bagged game.


The police had absolutely no say or power to refuse you the ownership of your guns when you came to register. It was a purely bureaucratic measure which enabled the police to trace a gun involved in a criminal action.

My guns were registered in the name of my (Jewish) mother, who had contributed the money for their original purchase, because I was only fifteen years old and could not own firearms until I reached maturity (21 years).

After Hitler came to power, nothing was changed in the existing gun regulations; nobody had to turn in the registered guns—period. My mother still had them on the day of her immigration to the US (May 1941) and gave them to a friend of mine because importation of firearms was prohibited under US law.

The laxness with which the firearm laws were enforced was clearly demonstrated in the days after the Reichstag fire, when most people feared an imminent Communist uprising. Suddenly, untold numbers of veterans or members of patriotic organizations were seen walking around, proudly displaying their wartime military Mausers or Parabellums strapped to their sometimes paunchy bellies. After a while, after the communist threat had been eliminated, they were politely reminded that carrying of firearms in public was against the law and the guns were put back into drawers at home. The sale of ammunition was never restricted.

Suddenly a long-time dream of mine promised to come true: the ownership of a genuine Parabellum in good condition. One of my friends had heard of a deal whereby members of the many existing nationalist party organizations could purchase retired army pistols in lots of one hundred at a price of fifteen marks per gun. The price of a new Parabellum was one hundred and fifty marks in those days, which was about the monthly income of a lowly worker, if he had a job.

My search for prospective customers was frantic. By charging an extra mark for my services I had to sell only fifteen guns to earn sufficient money for the purchase of a gun for myself!

Alas, my plan was of short duration. Some envious or overzealous citizen felt obliged to inform the authorities of my dreamy deal. It was followed by the famous knock on the door, and on opening I faced three agents of the secret police (Gestapo). No hands in the pockets groping for hidden arms, no shouted orders or threats, only showing of identifications and the polite question if I had any firearms at home and if they could see them.

I asked them in, got my guns and asked my mother to show the registration receipts. The disappointment of the rather mild-mannered gentlemen at the measly display was obvious and they asked about the whereabouts of the one hundred Parabellums I was suspected of harboring. My heart sank and I told them about my, now surely aborted, hoped-for big deal, which as yet had not been completed. They looked greatly relieved and the man in charge said that a perfunctory search of our premises was in order. No drawers were ripped out and emptied, nothing was displaced or damaged—only a short look under beds, into armoires and storage cabinets.

When they were ready to leave the man in charge spotted a letter on the table with a Jewish-sounding name of the sender and being obviously informed about my mother’s racial background he very kindly admonished her that because of the new conditions prevalent to be especially careful and not to break any of the existing laws. With that they apologized for the inconvenience they had caused and left. My loaded guns remained on the table.


In order fully to appreciate this story you must remember that the Parabellum was at that time still the most powerful and sophisticated military handgun on the European market. Today’s equivalent would be a fully automatic MP5 or Ingram. Just imagine somebody informing the “democratic” American government that I was stocking one hundred of those, possibly intending to sell them to some shady characters harboring racist or otherwise non-PC views.

Can't you just hear Janet Reno screaming and ordering her trigger-happy minions into action? The roar of armored trucks loaded with SWAT teams in full battledress would be deafening and reinforced by the clatter of helicopter-gunships hovering overhead, in case any difficulties should develop. The headlines would shout: Gun Crazy Rightist Has Arsenal Endangering His Neighborhood! Governor Might Call In National Guard!

Remember the recent actions of the American government in the case of a man who sold a shotgun, allegedly one quarter inch shorter than the law permits, to an undercover agent, which resulted in the deaths of a mother holding a baby in her arms, one unarmed child, the family dog and a marshal.

Or the one involving a religious nut who could have been arrested any day by a single cop while the former attended to his shopping in the local supermarket. Result: about eighty people, mostly women and children, incinerated alive. I think my imagined scenario above is an understatement.

My next run-in with the authorities of the Third Reich happened about three years later and was a little more ominous. I had just received the notification that my application for voluntary service in the newly-recruited army had been definitely denied and I was understandably very bitter because service in the armed forces was considered an honor and privilege, not an onerous duty. Instead of swallowing my badly injured pride I complained to everybody who would listen to me, ending my complaints with the caustic question: ‘Why me, when even the top general of the Luftwaffe, Erhard Milch, had a Jewish father?’ Well it didn’t take very long for the knock at the door. This time I faced three members of the Algemeine-SS. The situation was made worse by my little Dachshund. She had a dislike for tall men in black uniform and immediately attacked the intruders, loudly barking and snapping. The SS retreated a few steps until I had taken control of the objecting animal. The precautionary shooting of pet animals was definitely not PC in Hitler’s Germany. Besides, no member of a uniformed organization, except army and police, was ever permitted to carry firearms publicly in order to emphasize their non-military character.

After the three men had entered our apartment, I was severely admonished for spreading insulting rumors about high-level army officers [Erhard Milch in this case. Milch was, in all probability, a full-blooded Jew]. All I could say was that I was absolutely sure that the father of General Erhard Milch was buried in the Jewish cemetery in Dessau, home of the famous Junkers aircraft works. I will never forget the stunned expressions on the faces of the three as they left, this time without apologies, in a huff. I did not hear from them again. Of course I knew that the statement to which they objected was true” (pp. 13-17).

As a matter of fact, historian Bryan Rigg has confirmed that Erhard Milch was indeed at least half-Jewish, but possibly even full Jewish (Clark, 2006). Hitler had even agreed to fake his papers to get him into the Army.

Part II: The Experiences and Reflections of Heinz Weichardt

by AHRS



According to Weichardt (2004), “…I must state categorically that during my nearly six years under the Hitler regime, living at the center of power in Berlin with my father, who as a journalist was in constant touch with the authorities (he had, for example, to attend, together with other journalists, confidential monthly meetings with Propaganda Minister Goebbels to obtain political directives and listen to pep-talks), and aware of all nasty anti-government rumors, I had neither a single personal contact with anybody who had suffered physical harm from the authorities of the Third Reich, nor did I hear from anybody among my rather extended acquaintances that they knew of anybody who had. Yes, yes, I know there was the nasty Röhm affair…which was an inter-party matter” (p. 19).



So, in other words, Weichardt knew of rumors, but neither he nor any of his Jewish acquaintances had witnessed or fallen victim to National Socialist “terrorism.” Moreover, his father was a Jewish journalist who had met regularly with Dr. Goebbels. Furthermore, Weichardt is overtly honest in his recollection of the almost immediate mass exodus of “well-to-do” and “prominent” Jews who had “exposed themselves politically.” He also has not neglected to mention that most countries outside of Germany would not accept Jewish émigrés. Weichardt recounts, “The remaining Jews also had to suffer because of the vicious propaganda which was launched abroad by the Jewish-controlled press and by some of the émigrés” (p. 19). Notice he says “Jewish-controlled press” and not “Nazi controlled press”? Also, take note of the fact that Weichardt discusses the vicious propaganda “abroad”—in other words, numerous countries, other than Germany, were engaging in vicious, anti-Jewish propaganda; the United States inclusive.



According to Weichardt (2004), Hitler fulfilled the “Diktat,” as established by the League of Nations, by demonstrating his willingness to disarm. He hoped that by being the first to disarm others would quickly get the picture and follow suit. That is not what happened. “France had the largest air force in the world, England had the largest fleet, Russia the largest number of active soldiers and tanks, Poland heavily armed and sounding as aggressive as ever, the Czech army probably the most efficient of the lot and Italy, under Mussolini, was at that time still hostile towards Germany” (p. 20). So, Hitler’s bordering neighbors refused to recognize his peaceful gestures—he quickly got the picture and began rearming Germany at an unprecedented rate. It would not be farfetched to say that Hitler was uncanny enough to “read the writing on the wall,” as they say.


Upon coming to power Hitler had announced, during an international radio address on 16 October 1933, that “‘The German people and the German government have demanded absolutely no weapons…but rather, equal rights. If the world decides to eliminate all weapons right down to the last machine-gun, then we are ready to join such a convention. If the world decides to abolish particular kinds of weapons, then we are ready to do without them right from the start. But if the world decides that only certain nations may arm, but others may not, then we are not ready to allow ourselves to be excluded as a people with fundamentally fewer rights.’”



Indeed, this is the same situation with Iran today. Iran is not going to simply stand by as a menial player, that receives no respect or sovereignty, while Jewsrael continues to hoard nuclear armaments in an effort to “spread democracy” and “destroy Islam” in the Middle East. That is a complete infringement upon the respective national sovereignties of every independent non-Jewish nation-state in the region. To ask any people to allow this bigotry to continue is folly. It would be the equivalent of North Korea demanding that the US disarm or be ready for dire international sanctions, while at the same time, North Korea was arming Canada and Mexico. Inane! Hitler was no devil for asserting the rights of his people; the same is true of President Ahmadinejad.



“Throughout the 1930s, [Hitler] offered proposal after proposal for mutual European disarmament, only to find himself vilified in the Allied press as a “war monger” (Schaerffenberg, p. 29).
Hitler even reduced the number of German warships by 35%—a gesture of peace towards England (p. 29).
It was England, not Germany, that refused to abide by its own Treaty of Versailles dictates. The British refused to reduce the size of the Royal Navy even though it was a mandate of the treaty they had supposedly drafted. Hitler had even renounced any and all claims to “disputed territories” in order to appease the French—these were regions where vast numbers of Germans still lived, like Alsace-Lorraine (p. 30). He was repeatedly rebuffed and threatened by the French, so he finally sent some troops to reoccupy the rightful German region of the Rhineland (p. 30). Indeed, “thousands and thousands” of German families had been forcibly ousted by the French during that brutal occupation of German land (p. 31). Goering and Hitler had even agreed to propose an alliance with Poland against the Jewish-led USSR (p. 37). Polish sovereignty would have been sustained, while at the same time been defended by both German and Polish lives upon invasion by Soviet forces.




Furthermore, according to historian A.V. Schaerffenberg (2003), “Hitler did not “rule without consent.” He was elected into power by the German people, and his election results were stultifying—“plebiscites consistently approved of the National Socialist regime by 90 percent or more, most often in the upper range of that percentile. …Of the 2.94 million ballots cast in the Sudetenland elections of 4 December 1938, 2.64 million votes (98.9%) went to the NSDAP. Earlier that same year, when Hitler asked the Austrian people if they wanted to become part of the Third Reich, 99.7 percent responded in the affirmative. No democratic elections on earth, before or since, ever polled that kind of approval rating” (p. 10).
Now, it is possible that perhaps some of these voters felt, coerced, threatened, obligated or, that they had no other choice but, even when taking those factors into account, the percentiles are still unprecedented. Furthermore, every democratic election entails some form of coercion, fear, and/or corruption. That is unavoidable no matter what type of government you have. Weichardt (2004) has claimed, “…92.5% of the eligible voters backed the new government. Since I voted in several elections, together with my mother, until the autumn of 1938, when I left for the US, I can assure everybody that there was never any coercion or fraud involved in these elections” (p. 20).



Interestingly enough, in 1930, “United States voters…showed that they considered Il Duce the most brilliant and desirable statesman on earth. Even the ordinarily hostile Encyclopaedia Britannica had to admit that ‘Mussolini remained a hero to his own people and was profoundly respected around the world. The American Cardinal O’Connell of Boston said that Mussolini was a genius given to Italy by God; Winston Churchill declared that he himself would have donned the Fascist black shirt, had he been an Italian’.” As a matter of fact, Fascist movements were springing up everywhere in the world up until 1939—“from the British Fascist Union and Ireland’s Blue Shirts to the Russian Fascist Union and America’s Silver Shirts” (pp. 10-11).



Mussolini and Hitler both advocated and worked for peaceful negotiation, understanding and cooperation, but the so-called “Western democracies” proved too hostile to accommodate. As succinctly and accurately noted by Schaerffenberg (2003), “Capitalism, the old doctrine of international financial domination, and Marxism’s bid for world tyranny stood against the new spirit of national self-reliance of Fascism” (p. 12). Indeed, had it not been for the treachery and espionage of Soviet conspirators, the Wehrmacht High Command, and Wilhelm Canaris—“divulging the secret workings of Enigma” for 10,000 marks—the Axis powers would have won the Second World War, and Reinhard Heydrich would probably have survived it (Schaerffenberg, p. 20). Heyrich was only about a day away from arresting Canaris for his treachery, sabotage, and treason—“that is why he was murdered” (p. 28).



According to Weichardt (2004), Germany had to get off the gold standard and utilize exchange-based trade with foreign countries in order to stay afloat. Even so, her economy boomed, while that of Britain and America wallowed. Even Weichardt condemns the Jewish bankers and gangsters in this regard. He has stated, “This last measure was probably the real beginning of WWII. The world banking system simply could not permit this upstart to free his nation from their shackles. If his bold try became a success their whole empire would begin to crumble, because others might be emboldened to try the same gambit. Horrors over horrors, it did become a success. Germany’s economic recovery became meteoric, unemployment disappeared rapidly while the rest of the world was floundering in an ever-worsening depression” (p. 20).

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[phantom]

phantom is articulate and focused and patient with babblers.. ;)

Thank you sophia_h.

I am back, in fighting form and ready for the babblers. :p

[sophia_h]

Thank you sophia_h.

I am back, in fighting form and ready for the babblers. :p




Achtundachtzig ! Kamaraden.


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[kguk]

Sorry but what is a jew?

Habiru (hebrews), Judeans, Mizrahim? or european converts, Sephardim, Ashke Nazi? Talmudists or Torahists?

The generic jew is a confused and no offence if you are one but a pathetic people who have had the wool pulled over their eyes.

I hope no one thinks im being anti-semitic™ because seeking the truth is not an expression of hate!!!

[revolutionary_jam]

;) How Dare You Say The Word Jewi dunno what if the subjet line was "person whose parent was the victim of pedophila defends pedophiles" I'm sure you would say the fact that his parent was the victim of pedophilia is no matter and it's the content of what he is saying which has to be judged:
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YkF6XK1GJEA