The Fight

[doryl_roy]

I wasn’t sure where to put this so I guess the general thread will do.

For those out there who hold the belief that those in power (who are above the government and manipulate the government to execute their plans) reside in another dimension outside of this third dimension or are able to manifest here in this dimension and influence things directly, I put out this question:

If there are other beings from another dimension influencing those in power creating war, death and seeking control (dark energy) where are the beings from another dimension influencing people to create love, peace and freedom? (Light energy) and if there are these beings (light energy) are they also here behind the scenes and manifesting here also.

Surely if there are these dark forces at work then there would be the opposite forces standing up against them but also on the highest economic and political stage. If they control the army of darkness so to speak where is the army of light???

[zero1]

There are other dimensions and planes of existence: we know this for a fact.

However, unless you have accurate esoteric knowlege or the higher functions active to contact or communicate with beings/intelligences that dwell there, you cannot know.

As for the perspective of good & evil, the struggle between Light and Dark is best understood, as least @ a basic level, as a metaphor for the conflict between enlightened empowerment and perpetual division and tyranny.

It is important not to fall into the trap of wallowing in any sort of duality, in any case.

[doryl_roy]

perpetual division and tyranny


I gather what you mean by this is the forces that could be labelled under the terms evil/dark are just the forces which seek to separate us from each other not only in this physical existence residing in the third dimension but also from each other in the higher realms of existence where we are more aware that we are not lone individuals acting out separately from one another and the universe.

What I find confusing is how we can see the effects of the forces which seek to divide and rule over us tyrannically but not the forces which seek to unite us or am I missing something. I need no esoteric training to see what the negative forces are implementing so why can’t I see what the positive forces are doing at the same level of consciousness I am at now.

What I am trying to get at is that it seems we are way behind in our education in comparison to the people serving the negative forces and where they are almost regimented in the execution of there plans we seem sporadic in our fight against it (if such a fight exists on the level I am talking about).

If this is true, then just as they recruit people into the fold to help them shouldnt there be others recruiting people to aid in the fight for the light. I just dont think we are going to win fighting it at this level that we find ourselves. Yes we can break out of the chains and go against the system that has enslaved us and research all we can about them but i dont see how this will help. We cant undo what they have done in time before it is too late. I just feel we are fighting on the wrong battlefield.

Is becoming aware of this going to change anything ???

[john white]

Is becoming aware of this going to change anything ???

It will change your prior non-awareness

Beyond that, what can you find it within yourself to make of the knowledge?

[doryl_roy]

what can you find within yourself to make of the knowledge?

Well the first thing I find within myself to make of the knowledge (as im sure most do) is try and make this knowledge aware to those close to you who are unaware of what is actually going on. This act itself is met with harsh opposition in my experience. The next step for me after that would be trying to show those who I don’t know or who are not close to me. I would not attempt this at the moment as I feel I need to do a lot more research not just from where I reside now but from all over the world.

Whatever is coming and whatever changes are going to take place I feel all that is needed is the belief that the other realms of existence exist and when the time comes you will transcend to that other level that is there but will only go there if you realise you are actually there and it exists (If that makes sense). Yes we can try and persuade those in our immediate vicinity but is knowing the same as actually believing. Also what about those who can’t be reached are they simply just going to be left behind and therefore wont we be leaving ourselves behind??.

[niftygifter]

Well the first thing I find within myself to make of the knowledge (as im sure most do) is try and make this knowledge aware to those close to you who are unaware of what is actually going on. This act itself is met with harsh opposition in my experience.

You ain't kidding there, its so difficult when you try to help people you care for.
I have just had an email thrown at me saying "PLEASE stop sending me this stuff"

I Fucking give up with them, I am so tired of trying:(

Nifty:D

[doryl_roy]

I Fucking give up with them, I am so tired of trying:(Nifty:D

Well don’t try so hard. If you need to force something then obviously it is not ready to move. Like your first teeth they will start to move slightly begin to turn then either by themselves or with a little help by you they will become free. However if you pulled them out when they were not ready this would be painful and the teeth may have not had the chance to grow to their full potential.

I have no doubt that there is a higher level of existence to the one we perceive here and maybe the scenario where those that are ready to move into this higher realm will and those who are not at this time will stay until their time comes. I’m beginning to think that there’s no point in trying to wake people up cuz when the time comes when they are ready they will and I don’t think this will have much to do with what we tell them. They are either ready or not.

Just let what is inside you grow. If you get to transcend then great but there will always be another chance to get there and when you think we have eternity to get there and eternity to spend there why worry.

Sometimes Dark will rule other times light sometimes they will be balanced. Whatever happens happens. We are eternal and will experience it all again and again forever because we choose to not because we have to.