Has anyone here read Black Elck speaks the story of a cousin of crazy horse first published in 1932.He became a healer and medicine man of his tribe , his visions are remarkabley similar to biblical visions and a lot of illuminati symbolism .It details waht was called the messiah craze during the 1880's and 90's concerning a messianic dream that came to the people where the son of the great spirit promised to bring a new world to tthe nations just like the old one they had lost .He told them there was another world coming ,just like a cloud it would come in a whirlwindout of the west and crush everything out of this world , which was old and dying .The spirit world they believed was the real world and this just a shadow of it .The visions they saw had to be acted out here in ceremony and dance in order to gain power from them here and make them happen , sounds familiar doesnt it .Any thoughts or has anyone read this book to discuss here:D
google balck elk speaks for a google version of it or here is link to amazon
http://www.amazon.com/Black-Elk-Speaks-Being-Oglala/dp/0803283598
octopusrex
15-12-2007, 11:00 PM
Mayan and Hopi and Lakota and many others seem to be in agreement that a "true White Brother" is going to emerge soon to settle old accounts with his own race.
Kinda makes sense.
The white men of the time called him jack wilson and he said he came before long ago but the wasichus(white ? other race ) had killed him so tihs time he was coming to the indians and there would be no other wasichus in the new world .Although it was suposed to happen in the next winter 1891:D .
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wovoka
Wovoka (c. 1856 - September 20, 1932), also known as Jack Wilson, was the Northern Paiute religious leader who founded the Ghost Dance movement. Wovoka means “wood cutter” in the Northern Paiute language.
Wovoka – Paiute shaman and creator of the Ghost DanceWovoka was born in the Smith Valley area southeast of Carson City, Nevada, around the year 1856. Wovoka's father may have been the religious leader variously known as “Tavibo“ or “Numu-Taibo” whose teachings were similar to those of Wovoka. Regardless, Wovoka clearly had some training as a shaman. Wovoka’s father died around the year 1870, and he was taken in by David Wilson, who was a rancher in the Yerington, Nevada area. Wovoka worked on Wilson’s ranch and used the name Jack Wilson when dealing with whites. David Wilson was a devout Christian, and Wovoka learned Christian theology and Bible stories while living with him.
Wovoka gained a reputation as a powerful shaman early in adulthood as he was adept at magic tricks. One trick he often performed was being shot with a shotgun, which may have been similar to the bullet catch trick. Reports of this trick probably convinced the Lakota that their “ghost shirts” could stop bullets. Wovoka also performed a levitation trick.
Wovoka claimed to have had a prophetic vision during the solar eclipse on January 1, 1889. Wovoka's vision entailed the resurrection of the Paiute dead and the removal of whites and their works from North America. Wovoka taught that in order to bring this vision to pass the Native Americans must live righteously and perform a traditional round dance, known as the Ghost dance, in a series of five-day gatherings. Wovoka's teachings spread quickly among many Native American peoples, notably the Lakota. The Ghost Dance movement is best known for its role in the Wounded Knee Massacre, in which it caused Indian Agents, Soldiers, and other Federal officials a great deal of consternation and helped to predispose them towards a cautious, wary, and defensive posture when dealing with the Sioux. Important to note is that Wovoka’s preachings included messages of non-violence, but that two Miniconjou, Short Bull and Kicking Bear, instead emphasized the possible elimination of Whites which contributed to the already defensive attitude of the federal officials who were already reacting with fear of the unknown to the Ghost Dance movement.
Wovoka died in Yerington on September 20, 1932 and is interred in the Paiute Cemetery in the town of Schurz, Nevada.
Wovoka is the name of a rock album by the Native American/Chicano band Redbone released in 1974.
A reference to Wovoka is made in the song "I Hear Them All" by "Old Crow Medicine Show" on their album, "Big Iron World", released in August, 2006.
Wovoka is also sung about in the song "Ghostdance" by the rock group Nelson in their CD "The Silence is Broken" released in January, 1997.
[edit] Further reading
Michael Hittman, Wovoka and the Ghost Dance, Bison Books 1998, ISBN 0803273088
John Norman, Ghost Dance, Daw Books 1970, (a fictional account) ISBN 0879975016
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cI0Jfdkq4z8